Sarevok Anchev ADMITS TO INCEST | Baldur's Gate 3

[@gaddafi3345]

As my daughter raise our daughter” is a crazy ass line

[@John.Badman]

Shit Crusader Kings Say

[@ElBandito]

Sweet home Alabama.

[@wesjanson6979]

@@ElBandito you know people keep constantly making this joke but have you seen the rates of incest for pakistanis? almost 70% of births are from first cousin marriages there.

[@bioniclelegend7]

Also just casually mentions eating her when she was a baby. Insane

[@tenshi7478]

if you think its crazy hearing it imagine reading the lines as the voice actor

[@xhagast]

This makes the cult of Lolth seem mainstream and sane.

[@senmeii]

fr fr

[@nikushim6665]

Not uncommon with drow houses either, typically new blood only comes from the soils of taking out another house. Lolth doesn't give a s@*t so long as her followers all practice deception betrayal and murder to win her favor.

[@OhDeerLordie]

Iii wouldnt say so, drow have gotten up to messed up stuff like this too, including I think its either mages or priests graduating classes having a demon orgy

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

​@OhDeerLordie Try to have a demon orgy would be more accurate, the summoning ritual isn't always successful, and even when it is the demons aren't necessarily horny enough, so sometimes it's more wild and violent party than orgy. If they do successfully have an orgy, birthing a half-demon offspring is taken as a sign of being favored by Lolth though, especially if the child's female

[@slapjacq2131]

@@OhDeerLordie​​⁠​⁠ I’m gonna be so honest with you dawg, the slavery of male drows (and other races), killing thirdborn males, and demon orgies almost sounds vanilla next to “To skin her(Orin), and craft the hide into a hilt for a sacred knife”. Just so we are clear he is talking about sacrificing his child, that was made from the incestous relationship with his other daughter. Drow might as well be apart of common society because that’s nuts

[@GhostCryProductions]

What a terrible day to understand English.

[@wonderpookie]

LOL!

[@AssaultSpiral]

What a terrible day to understand words

[@adroit.a]

"the family tree is a bit of a circle isnt it?" 💀

[@withxoutxlife]

The tree became a wreath.

[@Inkspeckle]

the genetic stepladder of bhaal

[@misterkingdom3571]

I swear, Tav is the funniest person in the game.

[@bambblamb3734]

I dont know why i read that in a British accent

[@LucasNapolitano]

Alabhaalma vibes?

[@Frytranslationvanoss]

"I even hoped you and my daughter might one day create a new blood-lamb for us" We were so close to romancing Orin, even her father consented.

[@alissapenridge7516]

I think in the Tav timeline, Orin and Durge did hook up, or at least come close, but Orin seized the opportunity to murder him while he was vulnerable. You can find his naked corpse in her bedroom.

[@Meritear]

@@alissapenridge7516 what happened to tav in durge timeline ?

[@alissapenridge7516]

@@Meritear that’s a great question…idk if we find out. There might be letter or diary entry or something that gives us a hint but I haven’t come across any that I remember.

[@Frytranslationvanoss]

@@alissapenridge7516 Yeah I was like OMG IT'S DURGE in my first playthrough but yeah I never thought about that

[@AikoSea]

@@alissapenridge7516there was a game Larian released called blood in Baldurs gate which said dark urge killed tav. So if tav lives durge is dead and vice versa

[@vante2]

SWEET HOME ALA-BHAAL-MA

[@snappycenter7863]

This makes Shar's religion look mainstream and reasonable.

[@anthony_hw]

I need to take a shower after watching this LOL

[@darkurgediaries]

We all do 😂

[@fraybirch1930]

I'm okey with sleeping with bears and squids but this is where I draw the line.

[@Other-AllOfTheAbove]

Youre that turned on huh?! Damn sir

[@raynaramsay]

@@fraybirch1930 How about the Drow twins?

[@fraybirch1930]

@@raynaramsay they are cool.

[@vagabond8460]

I love how in this game, you don’t believe the bar could be set higher in terms of sadistic NPC’s, and then it gets progressively worse each Act lol

[@missingn0o]

Sarevok is the average Crusader Kings Player

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

Not really, a CK3 player would've wanted the Orin alive since heirs are very important in the game (I speak as a CK3 player) also, the Lunatic trait is generally one you want to avoid introducing into your bloodline in that game, and seems absolutely rampant here...

[@meshuggahshirt]

"To drain a gallon of her blood each morn..." How much blood did Orin HAVE?

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

More than a gallon apparently

[@JohnAndersonIV]

They didn't call her Orin the Red for nothing

[@ArchieCooper-tn1vj]

Explains why she’s so pale

[@Inkspeckle]

A gallon of blood per day is an INSANE amount. an average adult has up to 1.5 gallons of blood in their body. losing 0.6-1.0 gallons tends to be fatal for the majority of people - not to mention someone who has undergone severe blood loss needs time to recover. There is a reason you need to wait at least 8 weeks between blood donations. Unless changelings have an insane blood recovery rate Sarevok's bloodletting plan was gonna be very short lived.

[@darkurgediaries]

Like anything in fantasy, maybe it’s just ✨magic✨ aha! I your point though.

[@scoobydoo2587]

They could always just heal her after and repeat the process with magic or potions.

[@ewgna1014]

lesser restoration removes bloodless from astarion bite so greater restoration would probably do the trick

[@Inkspeckle]

@@ewgna1014 squeezing blood out of baby Orin like juicing an orange. for Bhaal

[@marcusc9931]

Well, she's definitely not a normal human.

[@chillax319]

Incest aside, which was a common thing among nobles and gods of our irl mythology are chokfull of that, I'm more disturbed about his words how they can use the child to please Bhaal. You know, the whole draining of blood, turning into a freaking dagger and other such lovely paternal talk. Bhaal and his cultists are absolutely vile.

[@elswayr4525]

nah im pretty disturbed by the incest alone too especially This Bad.

[@oktusprime3637]

Incest was common among siblings and cousins, not among parents and children.

[@gaffgarion7049]

No it wasn't, unless you count cousins which is a totally different ballpark from parents and siblings

[@powerist209]

Greenwood even stated that it is common among nobility...except it's tolerated so long as magic birth control was used.

[@MysticMorigan1998]

Sibling and parent incest is farrrrrr different genetically speaking than cousins and farther apart. Siblings and parentage relations are always viewed as incest, when first cousins (who only share a set of grandparents on one side) are considered weird but genetically acceptable.

[@taguro1006]

Rick and Morty writers are going crazy with this information

[@MissChambersxo]

I love how you can, as the dark urge, call out Sarevok for his family tree being a circle

[@usov656]

I admit bg3 sarevok is a bit odd compared to his bg2 self, but since he's a ressurected husk, I think that once he died, his soul got dragged into bhaal's realm, where he was prob tortured over and over to make him loyal again. Either that or he did in fact plan to overtake bhaal after beating durge once he became bhaals chosen. Or maybe his soul was split, and what we see of him in bg3 is just the part of him tainted by bhaal. Despite all that, Larian did manage to make him even scarier than he originally was. He seems shallow at first, but once you learn of what hr has been doing in the background for decades, you see he's so much worst now than he ever was.

[@dylanherron3963]

After BG1, and the redemption arc of Sarevok in BG2, him being in BG3 was... off-putting for me. It seemed like a nostalgic tie-in, for nostalgia's sake. I'd have rather left his story where it was. It's a a bit of a stretch to bring him back, yet again.

[@michaeld2440]

Did he really have a redemption arc in 2 though? I remember him still being chaotic evil alignment, but just happy to be alive again and giving up on his bhaal aspirations since he lost his god part of his soul

[@figuures6098]

The canon ending for bg2 is good guy rejecting our bhaalspawn divinity, I’ve always taken that as us making the good choices like changing sarevoks alignment as well. He lost the bhaal aspect of his soul when resurrected, and he seemed to abandon his aspirations in regards to being bhaal’s favorite

[@pierluigiruotolo6548]

@@dylanherron3963 There is no real redemption arc for him, he is more shadow than man and he never really heal back because he cant. I think in the end he just surrender to Bhaal once he return back to life since that was from the beginning his only porpouse

[@fcon2123]

@@michaeld2440 You have to work at it through quite a lot of dialogue. I can't remember if he requires a piece of Imoen's soul specifically as well, but you do in fact change his alignment away from evil.

[@pedropierre9594]

Bro really said i gave her my seed and i was like hol up triple take......,no way

[@Oll1000]

Why do I get the feeling that Sarevok is not a very wholesome person?

[@daedricwinters2979]

call it a hunch, but I'd say its the violent video games our kids play

[@thedarkderp2520]

​@@daedricwinters2979careful you might summon the fun murdering god known as Jack Thompson 😂

[@Inkspeckle]

no idea what you're talking about. he seems like a committed family man

[@justinjones7604]

Already a fucked conversation then said talking draining the baby and that’s a whole new level of fucked

[@marcusc9931]

He went from a politician to a Habsburg.

[@mulqueen2023]

Its sweet that Sarevok ships Durge and Orin 😆

[@LitD]

They really made some wierd decisions with the original BG characters, I mean Sarevoks whole plan was to replace Bhaal, to take over his divine portfolio. He was never loyal to Bhaal not during the original game, not during the last and not during his life according to the ending slides and here he is suddenly acting like a high priest or something.

[@FFVogter.-em6zz]

I'd say that Sarevok got browbeaten into submission along with most of the other Bhaalspawn who died in the previous BG games

[@Pallyrulez]

Well, being murdered hard from the protag of BG1, and may or may not have his soul in Bhaal's realm, likely being tortured changes a person. it has also been over 100 years. A lot can change. Though a bit more explanation on how he came to change his outlook would be nice.

[@Tyrantofthewind]

Keep in mind that not all the endings are accurate in BG2. For instance, if you romanced Viconia she is assassinated. So her appearing at all basically means she will still be really evil.

[@pierluigiruotolo6548]

He wanted to replace Bhaal because he was dead, but after the second sundering things have changed and now he can only serve Bhaal

[@laningsmith9163]

Sarevoks plans for baby Orin is ironic considering he was saved from a similar fate when he was an infant.

[@velinas_]

Sarevok's progress (after what he did in BG 1and 2) is interesting. Not surprising perhaps. Bhaal is a god of vile tastes. This is very fitting.

[@Andriej69]

Dammit, what the hell happened with that possible character development from Throne of Bhaal?

[@cameronpearce5943]

At my table he was split by Bhaal, his blood reclaimed similar to what happens to Durge if you reject Bhaal. The redeemed Saravok lived on as a mortal man while the blood of Bhaal was reforged into BG3 Bhaal. Had to justify why at our table Old Man Saravok was one of the witnesses of the Ward’s death/transformation when we played Murder in Baldur’s Gate and was a helpful NPC in our games

[@Barmaglott17]

His soul was dragged back to Baal after the Second Sundering I guess, and it all went to waste.

[@alissapenridge7516]

@@cameronpearce5943 I love this concept

[@marcusc9931]

He spent the first decades of his life trying to become a god, and our hero brought it all crashing down. Then he followed us, because he still wanted to be a part of the story - Bhaal's legacy was all he knew. He tried to find a different path afterwards, but it didn't work out. He was lost, without purpose. And then, apparently Bhaal returned. So now he followed Bhaal, because where else would a failed Bhaalspawn go? That was two generations ago. A plenty of time for beliefs to calcify.

[@Andriej69]

@@marcusc9931See, "it didn't work out" is just too much of a shortcut for me

[@seeinred]

You nailed the thumbnail of this video + title. 10/10, honestly

[@darkurgediaries]

Thank you 🙏🏻🤍

[@scarymonsterzz]

There's a lot of fucked up shit in this game but I think this conversation is definitely up there. Ughgghf.

[@artturisiikanen3843]

this is hella tasty.

[@laningsmith9163]

Sarevok has been playing too much crusader kings 2

[@stratometal]

How very Greek of him. Yeah the Greek gods where as insane as this guy, not a single one of them were sane, except maybe Prometheus and look where it landed him.

[@artturisiikanen3843]

hestia?

[@stratometal]

@@artturisiikanen3843 Poor Hestia... that girl was house locked and traumatized after daddy dearest gobbled her up along with her siblings "First to be devoured.. and the last to be yielded up again" sounds like a terrible upbringing.

[@TH-fu1qn]

**Insert Banjo strings playing in the background. **

[@froztbytes]

I'm glad I decided to watch this just before I'm about to take a bath.

[@darkurgediaries]

Need a soul cleanse after this one 🧼

[@theeverchosen1504]

God lord and I thought Malus was disturbing

[@dadevi]

This is the craziest thing I've heard in a video game.

[@Stargeek06]

This scene is fucking LOADED sounds like he wanted the Durge and Orin to have kids so they could sacrifice them

[@StyleshStorm]

How is Bhaal not the main evil enemy over the Cthulhu cult?

[@rookierook99]

Because Bhaal is not much of a huge immediate threat to the entire Sword Coast compared to the Netherbrain. Same with Raphael. Plus Bhaal's the God of Murder, and even he has set boundaries he cannot cross unless he wants to get Ao's attention, as Withers vaguely explained (him aiding Tav and his party was NOT his choice).

[@ItamarO93]

​@@rookierook99Withers does as Withers does due to boredom.

[@samuelevander9823]

Because that story has already been told in Baldur's Gate 1 & Throne Of Bhaal -expansion. Though I would like to see a more realized Bhaalspawn plot with modern graphics, but then again, The Dark Urge origin already covers with much detail what it means to be a Bhaalspawn. Better than what Baldur's Gate 1 ever did.

[@razrv3lc]

Is he not, partially, at least? The Dead Three were behind the Absolutist cult.

[@luckyowl6432]

​@@ItamarO93 Withers is not bored he's trying to get out from under the thumb of the Dark Sun ( Cyric )

[@sage4365]

A true psychopath with no remorse.

[@stevendeamon]

For Baldur's Gate universe, this was an entire main storyline. For WH40k universe, this would've been a Tuesday.

[@WestOfEarth]

Ancient mythology is rife with incestuous relations, so this fits with Sarevok's character.

[@AlexanderSajin]

Sarevok will go down in Video Game history as one of the most insidious and disgusting villains of all time and that's why we love him.

[@josepo513]

That was monstrously evil. Bhaal will be pleased.

[@onedeadcat]

I'm my own Grandpaaaaa I'm my own Grandpaaaaa Its so funny I know, but it really is so, hey! I'm my own Grandpaaaa

[@IanSenkel]

All I wanted to do was to usurp Bhaal and claim the God of Murder for myself

[@darkurgediaries]

Yes please 👌🏻

[@HerrLokiZockt]

Well I think this is not as simple as one may think: 1. Bhaal had already made arrangements during the Times of Troubles, when he was in the divine hierarchy, as he foresaw his death. That being said, Bhaal is only a quasi-deity now, and thus in the lowest ranking of the gods, but even so he is still incredibly powerful in person. Much more powerful than the avatars of the Dead Three in the game. 2 Bhaal, Myrkul and Bane himself had to strike down one of the seven forgotten gods about 1800 years ago (before Baldur's Gate 3) and had to find a way into Jergal's domain afterwards. Since Jergal was tired of his office, it can be assumed that he made it easy for the three to enter his domain. 3. since then it has become much harder to become a god and it can be assumed that even if most of the gods don't like Bhaal, an intervention of other gods, especially Ao, would follow in the worst case. The gods are just tired of mortals thinking they can do a good job as gods. And Ao is not an entity to be messed with, Ao is more a force of nature and power than a deity (he doesn't need followers unlike the other gods), comparable to the Lady of Pain. The exceptions to this are Midnight (Mystra) and Kelemvor. The former became the new goddess of magic by decree of Ao himself after the old Mystra was killed by Helm (in his defense, she attacked him first) and Kelemvor became the new god of the dead at the request of the dead and inhabitants of the Gray Wastes. Strictly speaking, Cyric would have to be mentioned, but his rise was during the Times of Troubles, and that was generally a wild time.

[@darkurgediaries]

@@HerrLokiZockt you’re extremely well read on this I see! Thank you for the insight, this is extremely interesting to me. So do you believe it would be nigh on impossible for a Bhaalspawn to usurp Bhaal?

[@HerrLokiZockt]

@@darkurgediaries I think it would depend on the time and circumstances. In the Times of Troubles it would be possible with the right preparation, Cyric managed it back then, but that was probably also due to the weapon Godsbane (actually the god Mask). It would be difficult for a Bhaalspawn per se. The whole fiasco surrounding the return of Bhaal was caused by the clash between the last two Bhaalspawn (the hero of Baldur's Gate and a Bhaalspawn called Viekang). One of them managed to kill the other, became the last Bhaalspawn and transformed into the Ravager, an avatar of the god Bhaal who was completely out of control. I don't know much about the origin of Durge, but I would assume that even if a Bhaalspawn and Durge managed to take down Bhaal, they would experience something similar. And if not, because his power is now too low, I think Bhaal still has a few powerful creatures in his domain that would serve him and then unleash them on the would-be usurper. Even if they survive that, I think they would be sufficiently weakened in terms of abilities and magic at that point that Bhaal would have a relatively easy time of it. And that's all assuming, of course, that the other gods wouldn't intervene. But I think it is possible in theory: Before his ascension to godhood, Kelemvor was also just a mortal, more precisely a deceased soul who managed to strike down the god Cyric and ascend to god of the dead himself (currently Kelemvor is the boss of Myrkul and Jergal), this defeat might ber also due to the fact that Cyric was not on top of his game ("Cyric's fear, indecision, and madness became his defeat,") and he probably also neglected his job, which further weakened his power. The question, after Baldur's Gate 3 anyway, is whether we'll see the Dead Three again any time soon, as the final scene with Withers implies that they're in for a punishment and the gods will look upon the Dead Three's actions with little fondness. But at least it's "easier" than killing and ursuping someone like Mystra. First get into her domain, then live with the fact that thanks to her power over magic she has probably disabled all magical items in the party and arcane magic in said party. I don't know about divine magic, but I would say that good and neutral deities would take away all spells from their wards if she wasn't able to cancel all magic in her domain anyway. Provided that you manage to reach her: Mystra has some allied deities and should things get really serious Helm would most likely intervene, Helm being the only unbanned god in the Times of Troubles and dismissing Mystra's (another Mystra, her history is complicated) spells and magic as if it were nothing. Any mortal would most likely fail at Helm at the latest. I only bring up the Mystra thing now because someone once told me that there are probably people who are looking for Mystra's stat block to give her a good kicking for the treatment Gale is going through. Not the smartest idea. The characters wouldn't survive that and Kelemvor and Mystra are/were once allies, and even if he's now completely neutral, I doubt the Judge of the Dead would let such an action pass so easily. Not to mention other gods who could lay claim to the souls.

[@IanSenkel]

The issue outlined are all entirely valid for trying usurp Bhaal. HOWEVER we already know the dead three are on everyone's shitlist and I think that depending on how to play it, it should be entirely possible for other gods to help The dark Urge to replace Bhaal. After all the Dead three done goofed so hard even Jergal who's neutral as all get out was willing to step up and help. So between Jergal, a potentially ascended Gale or Mystra you got Two gods right there. The Dark Urge has the best claim to Bhaal's throne and man I could see the player character getting the chance for Ritual combat. Look I just wanted to become the next best thing to Sithis from the Elder Scrolls who isn't nearly as calamitous as the Dead Three even on a bad day.

[@jeremytitus9519]

The first Serbian Film-type game.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

After playing BG1 and BG2, Larian really mucked up Seravok and Viconia

[@adxundead7401]

I was time to switch out clerics. Vicky's back! >Awwwww

[@marcusc9931]

Unlike Bioware, which just straight killed about 1/3 party members between BG1 and 2. People change, and not always for the better. A century has passed. It's hardly surprising that some characters turned into "racist grandpa' versions of themselves.

[@Keram-io8hv]

Still better than vampire Imoen Fck you WoTC

[@RobotnikPlngas]

@@marcusc9931 More like incest-grandpa am i rite fellas

[@BigPapaMitchell]

This is probably the most tame thing about this murder cult

[@williamhammond9090]

I always knew that Sarevok was a nasty individual from Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, I just didn't know how nasty until now.

[@orelyosif5852]

Damn, I didn't came to him after the Orin fight and met him at the final inn.

[@sorvina777]

Would be a twisted plot twist if durge was actually sarevok's daughter named bhaal's spawn, so orin's sister and mother at the same time, with the lost memory and then having killed her.

[@X-Bones]

The family sitcom that no one wants to see.

[@zanderC5953]

Dark Urge: "What am I gonna do to this bloodthirsty changeling lunatic who left me for dead, threatened my friends, and stole my job?"🤬 Literally Everyone, including Bhaal: "Kill her!" Sarevok: "I ship it!"😘

[@csam9167]

Bane really did something dirty to raise Talhia ...

[@Milwaga]

In my BG2 playtrough, Sarevok turned Chaotic Good and seeked redemption ...what the fuck happened here, Larion ?!

[@NoahofWill]

I think the emphasis here should be placed on, "In MY playthrough."

[@artturisiikanen3843]

larian shit heads followed the stupid shit novels not the games.

[@umenja6312]

why does durge call sarevok uncle? wouldn’t he be more like “brother” to them? not that far into the game with my durge so excuse any ignorance lol

[@darkurgediaries]

It seems weird to me too, but like durge said, the family tree is more like a family wreath 😂

[@umenja6312]

@@darkurgediaries can’t argue with that LOL, your durge is beautiful btw!

[@darkurgediaries]

@@umenja6312 thank you so much!! I’m so attached to this character it’s hard to make a new tav 😆

[@CosmicChris]

It's weird to me because TDU is basically Bhaal's ass flesh given it's own form or something. You're basically the concept of "Shed flesh of a main body has it's own ego", you're quite literally a piece shed by Bhaal to my understanding. Wouldn't it be more like he is your nephew?

[@darkurgediaries]

@@CosmicChris i always considered TDU as basically a Bhaal clone, so genetically speaking sarevoks father but technically like an uncle 😆 it’s a family wreath not a tree for sure.

[@warrenmatheson563]

Is Baldur's Gate set in rural Arkansas?

[@wowb1965]

*What a treat*

[@powerist209]

Also his daughter might be his sister...because Bhaal's womb (assuming if it's metaphorical and not Bhaal carrying his progeny). I mean it even made Greenwood's "incest is okay in Faerun so long as magic condom is used...OH, and annual orgy festival on every corner" tame.

[@thecthuloser876]

I have some many mixed feeling about this game. As a stand-alone game, it's fantastic. Like if it wasn't for my love of the previous games, it would be my favorite CRPG of all time. But I love the previous games and with the sole exception of Jeheria, the returning characters feel like almost like they are being mocked. Sarevok especially.

[@alissapenridge7516]

Exactly. The treatment of Viconia and Sarevok especially reminds me of the worst parts of the Star Wars sequel trilogy and a lot of reboots in general that fail to capture or even understand what fans loved about the original stories. Old characters and plots are recycled for the sake of name recognition alone, and it makes the end product feel like a hollow retread of the originals’ greatest hits, or in some cases (like Sarevok’s), an incredibly petty and mean spirited character assassination. Including them at all feels like an unforced error when they could easily have been rewritten as original characters and the story would have been better for it. So few fans of the new game have played the originals so idk what they were even hoping to get out of including these guys if this is all they could think to do with them. I will say that I really enjoyed Minsc though, even if he was a bit dumbed down and was introduced too late to have much of a role in the story. His VA is super talented and has a great sense of comedic timing. You could tell he loved the character and wanted to portray him as more than a sweet, lovable brute, even if he wasn’t given much to work with. I would have loved to see more of him.

[@erdrickcapet3945]

@@alissapenridge7516 Interestingly enough, his voice actor isn't the guy from the original games in BG3 but Matt Mercer, internet-famous D&D nerd who can be a bit of a gamer himself, so yeah, I'm guessing he loved getting to be Minsc. My favorite joke was something along the lines of "Can I go now? Boo is not used to this taking of turns." But I totally agree about Sarevok and Viconia. No point really in including them, only fans from the originals would recognize them and a lot of them probably had somewhat "good" or "neutral" endings in Throne of Bhaal so where they ended up doesn't make so much sense. It also clashes with the original story in Throne of Bhaal; Sarevok is only supposed to have just enough of a soul to live, no way is he supposed to be able to be a chosen again or any of that mess. They could have achieved the same feeling of nostalgia for the small percentage who get it by just including Sarevok's sword as a loot drop near the end of the game in the Bhaal temple or something.

[@alissapenridge7516]

@@erdrickcapet3945 oh my god I totally forgot that Matt Mercer was in this game haha… he did such a good job with Minsc.

[@Nammjahtan]

@@erdrickcapet3945 I agree with you on the point of just including Sarevok's sword rather then the character. Originally I went into BG3 enthusiastically but then had the fact Sarevok and Viconia are in the game and their redemption arcs reversed spoiled for me. Now I don't care at all for the story and am only continuing to play because I have a campaign with 3 friends. Honestly I really wish nothing about bhaal or the bhaalspawn storyline was even mentioned as that story was finished. It's sad because I was actually kind of enjoying the story up to when I got spoiled.

[@RoccoDeLuca-hb9ny]

The only canon thing from bg2 is the ending where we reject bhaal THE END every companion related choice is left to the player so larian was free to do whatever they want in bg3, i loved sarevok minsc and jaheira A LOT they nailed them perfectly, Viconia was just an appearance but once you learn what has she been doing in the last 100 years that's pretty much the viconia we remember, the redemption ending is not canon Larian and wotc did choose to make viconia stay evil, remember that se was a total ass and bastard in bg1 and 2 if you don't maker her good. The whole whining about her is because people LOVE redemption arcs and stories so they were pissed off, i can understand that completely, but you cannot say "this isn't the viconia i remember" NO it's not the viconia you want to remember, what we have here is simply viconia on her evil path, sometimes people forget she's an ex lolth drow like for real? she slaughtered a whole family in bg2 and was ok with doing heineous acts. Yes they could have avoided putting her in bg3 but it kinda makes sense, the point is viconia is different from sarevok jaheira and minsc in bg3, while their doings in bg1 and 2 are muddled and you can come up with anything from bg1 and 2 and the way they act still makes sense in 3, a good sarevok could return to his old ways after loosing himself, remember that 100 years is A LOT, and evil sarevok speaks for himself, minsc and jaheira have dedicated dialogues that do not make anything from the previous games canon, you could have romanced jaheira or not etc. Viconia is different they made her so that certain things in bg2 are canon, for example in bg3 in her quarters you find a flower that shadowhearth interacts with a dialogue saying that she in fact did travel with our bhaalspawn to suldanelssar in bg2 so she was part of the party and shadowhearth also says she has no idea but she is so much attached to that flower that brings her emotion or memories of another time so her good side is not completely dead... she is a shaar worshipper first and foremost no room for player head canon etc, i don't hate that nor i like that, they made a choice and simply live with it. Tldr. simply put people hate when companies don't make the choices they want even if multiple paths are open. for me i had both viconia and sarevok on their evil endings in bg2 and if they did choose to portray them here with their good endings i wouldn't be an ass about it just because u took a different path.

[@inasaira8380]

where did you find that page of his memoir?

[@darkurgediaries]

It’s in his desk at the tribunal!

[@m1.01zahranormansyah4]

@@darkurgediaries shit, seriously its IN, not ON i wasted 2 of my walktrough looking for this fucking letter lmao

[@darkurgediaries]

@@m1.01zahranormansyah4 omg noo haha yeah it’s inside 😭🙏🏻

[@somewhere367]

Request to cast devine smite as a ninth level spell? I need to be sure he is actually dead this time.

[@artturisiikanen3843]

unfortunatly i love this sarevok maybe even more than tob good guy sarevok. but he should be working on the 9th or 10th maybe even 11th generation allready(assuming puberty at 12ish) allready when bg3 takes place. how can he only be on the 2nd gen ?he isent being very optimal.

[@joelsays2280]

Sweet home Baldur's gate 😂

[@JohnSmith-ls3um]

I like to call this episode “D&D meets Chinatown.” IYKYK.

[@Chestyfriend]

Dude hit the pipe pretty hard.

[@SulMatul]

Hey there - I'm currently working on a video essay for Baldur's Gate 3, specifically one talking about its portrayal of abuse, and cycles of abuse. I was wondering whether it would be okay to use some of your clips in my video? With full and total credit to you, of course! I'd love to show off your fantastic work and your *beautiful* Tav! (no problem if you'd prefer not, though!)

[@darkurgediaries]

If it’s just a few clips from this and not just a reupload I think I would be okay with it! I would like to see the video when it’s finished too 🙏🏻

[@SulMatul]

@@darkurgediariesYep, at present I'm estimating the full essay would be about 3-ish hours worth of discussion, and I was hoping to use a small bit of this video and the Orin video to discuss how she, too, is trapped in a cycle of pain. I was also hoping to potentially use a few small bits from your Emperor Romance video in the discussion of how the player is also not free of being a victim - again, only with your permission, and with credit in both the video description *and* visible credit within the video itself / a link to your channel. I'm happy to send a copy of the script as it stands to make sure you're 100% comfortable with how any clips would be incorporated into the video, and once it's finished I'll send the link your way!

[@darkurgediaries]

@@SulMatul sounds good to me then, i feel comfortable with this arrangement. Just keep me updated, thank you!

[@GLCDragons]

so I guess Helena and orin are sisters as well as mother and daughter. 🤨

[@artturisiikanen3843]

damnit i need to play durge for this tasty gloriousness I LOVE IT.

[@BingBangPoe]

And somehow people think Raphael is the most evil villain in this game.

[@bronsonpatten7188]

I feel so bad for Orin now. Must have been a truly shit life growing up. No wonder she turned out the way she did

[@PotentialCabbage]

Most sane Bhaal worshipper

[@perspicacity89]

Sarevok kind of sounds like Duke Nukem.

[@darkurgediaries]

I always thought that too!

[@jacklanson-z5o]

Christ bless you, The heresy burns my eyes and ears. He needs to go NOW!

[@darkurgediaries]

Facts 💀

[@martialartist467]

Ok what the Targaryen is this

[@sweetgirl3893]

he's so disgusting poor orin

[@yourdm2620]

What did BG3 do to my boy Sarevok 😭 #notmysarevok

[@captainlongdik8724]

Baal,God of Alabama.

[@LeoRikimaru]

Who is this weirdo and why is he claiming to be Sarevok? He definitely isn't.

[@marcusc9931]

I'm sure there are past versions of yourself that you'd slap if you met them. People change. It's been a hundred years.

[@LeoRikimaru]

@@marcusc9931Real people start simple, become more complicated. He started complicated and became simple, a caricature hollowed out of any nuance.

[@marcusc9931]

@@LeoRikimaru I could bring some counter-examples to your claim, but I don't want to go political here.

[@LeoRikimaru]

@@marcusc9931Its fine. I'm apolitical, go ahead.

[@marcusc9931]

@@LeoRikimaru Nah, people don't come here to talk about politics. Do you know the "racist grandpa" stereotype? Many people become more 'condensed' as they age. It is not uncommon for an old person to feel like an exaggerated parody of their younger self.

[@hegenoxmaar704]

Father of the year

[@vamp97]

From the bottom of my heart: yikes.

[@Cleff_the_Magnificent_]

i need to find that note xD

[@Demetrius900000]

I saved that mofo in BG2, what happpened with him? :(

[@marcusc9931]

Trying to be good didn't work out. Bhaal returned. Then a hundred years passed. Perhaps if Tamoko were alive, there would be a chance.

[@laningsmith9163]

@@marcusc9931Im not sure if Sarevok was ever redeemed canonically. That was only optional in throne of bhaal

[@marcusc9931]

@@laningsmith9163 Minsk mentions he had his chance at redemption and wasted it. Also, redemption is the only scenario where we don't kill him for the third time.

[@PullOffYouSkin]

Saverok is Dominic Toretto?

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

He hoped Orin and Durge would sire a child? Im not sure that would work since neither has a PP. Then the question stands, would it be a child literally made up of blood.

[@darkurgediaries]

if orin could shapeshift into a male it would be doable 🤔 in xmen mystique fathered nightcrawler this way 😆

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

@@darkurgediaries I'm pretty sure dnd shapeshifters biologically are far too diffrent from a normal race, the cells wouldn't cooperate. Shapeshifters are really their own thing. similarly with dragonborn if they tried to sire kids with other races, it just doesent work.

[@darkurgediaries]

@@bluntlyhonest6803 i mean orins father despite being a bhaalspawn is human, making her half human at least, she’s mixed as it is haha. I just looked up the lore of changelings in dnd (she is specifically a changeling) and they can indeed interbreed with humanoids. They are a race that resulted from humans interbreeding with doppelgängers and are a race in their own right.

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

@@darkurgediaries well then it shouldn't be a problem! have at it you crazy kids.

[@darkurgediaries]

@@bluntlyhonest6803 lol!! Keep that family wreath nice and round 😂

[@lannimbeige1898]

Where do we find the note

[@darkurgediaries]

In sarevoks desk in one of the tribunal rooms

[@bug-13]

At least he didn't offer to procreate with you 😂🫄

[@darkurgediaries]

True, but he does say he wishes we procreated with Orin 🤮

[@mistle_rat]

@@darkurgediaries Man just loves to procreate

[@Local_commentor]

​@@darkurgediariesnot a sight for sore eyes I suppose

[@lilyayora]

​@@Local_commentorOrin looks like she hasn't once taken a bath in her entire life

[@Local_commentor]

@@lilyayora "does laezel impersonation" odor alone makes my skin crawl for now I shall keep enjoying your scent

[@gregorycheok2503]

Was this patched content? I don't remember these options during my playthrough

[@darkurgediaries]

You have to find a specific letter in a specific desk tucked away in the tribunal to unlock these options, it’s always been there!

[@gregorycheok2503]

wow awesome, the little things they hide in this game truly make it amazing.@@darkurgediaries

[@garwynrosser8907]

Don't be shocked... The bible did it first.

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

What?

[@BASED877]

where do you learn this info?

[@darkurgediaries]

The letter in sarevok’s desk + speak with the dead on orin’s mother

[@BASED877]

@@darkurgediariesI have the letter and I tried speaking with dead but I still do not get any info on it

[@BASED877]

@@darkurgediariesI have killed Sovorak before meeting Orin does that affect anything do you have to speak with him to confirm it before you can tell her about it?

[@darkurgediaries]

@@BASED877 helena will not mention that sarevok is orin’s father. It’s just necessary that you spoke with her before talking to orin. As long as you did that and also have the letter shown at the beginning of this video, you’ll have the option when you confront orin

[@BASED877]

@@darkurgediaries well I did both of those things you mentioned and it's not showing as an option when I talk with Orin

[@TheStupidwolf1]

Out of curiosity. What race and class is your character? Very kaunis i have to say.

[@darkurgediaries]

Thank you! She is a High Elf Vampire, and a Rogue-Sorcerer! She also has some Bardic perks so she can use Vicious Mockery and play music.

[@TheStupidwolf1]

@@darkurgediaries thank you! I have bought Baldurs gate 3 but really havent got time to play it. I was looking for inspiration for creating my character and this video gave it to me.

[@darkurgediaries]

@@TheStupidwolf1 I’m so happy you feel inspired by my video!! ☺️🙏🏻

[@eastbow6053]

what outfit is that?

[@darkurgediaries]

A mixture of items from the basket full of equipment mod!

[@danilkibenko4017]

where did u find this note?

[@darkurgediaries]

In sarevoks desk in the tribunal

[@danilkibenko4017]

@@darkurgediaries Thanks

[@mr.goldfinch3681]

God.... Sarevok´s character got so butchered in BG3.

[@VeraOreddsson]

That's hot

[@Aristocles22]

Someone watched Chinatown, didn't they? Ugh.

[@mrdouche9172]

based father

[@jeroen92]

Such a terrible over the top voice acting job. The most cringeworthy character in the game.

[@darkurgediaries]

He gives me candyman vibes haha

[@mutenroshie]

As much as i love BG3, it realy did some cruel Character Assasinations with the Legacy Companions. They ignored the redemption arc of Sarevoc and Viconia. Those characters are now a shadow of their former selfs. Realy bumbed me out.

[@RoccoDeLuca-hb9ny]

The only canon thing from bg2 is the ending where we reject bhaal THE END every companion related choice is left to the player so larian was free to do whatever they want in bg3, i loved sarevok minsc and jaheira A LOT they nailed them perfectly, Viconia was just an appearance but once you learn what has she been doing in the last 100 years that's pretty much the viconia we remember, the redemption ending is not canon Larian and wotc did choose to make viconia stay evil, remember that se was a total ass and bastard in bg1 and 2 if you don't maker her good. The whole whining about her is because people LOVE redemption arcs and stories so they were pissed off, i can understand that completely, but you cannot say "this isn't the viconia i remember" NO it's not the viconia you want to remember, what we have here is simply viconia on her evil path, sometimes people forget she's an ex lolth drow like for real? she slaughtered a whole family in bg2 and was ok with doing heineous acts. Yes they could have avoided putting her in bg3 but it kinda makes sense, the point is viconia is different from sarevok jaheira and minsc in bg3, while their doings in bg1 and 2 are muddled and you can come up with anything from bg1 and 2 and the way they act still makes sense in 3, a good sarevok could return to his old ways after loosing himself, remember that 100 years is A LOT, and evil sarevok speaks for himself, minsc and jaheira have dedicated dialogues that do not make anything from the previous games canon, you could have romanced jaheira or not etc. Viconia is different they made her so that certain things in bg2 are canon, for example in bg3 in her quarters you find a flower that shadowhearth interacts with a dialogue saying that she in fact did travel with our bhaalspawn to suldanelssar in bg2 so she was part of the party and shadowhearth also says she has no idea but she is so much attached to that flower that brings her emotion or memories of another time so her good side is not completely dead... she is a shaar worshipper first and foremost no room for player head canon etc, i don't hate that nor i like that, they made a choice and simply live with it.

[@Keram-io8hv]

Like Viconia redemption arc was her dying so...

[@RobotnikPlngas]

That always happens with multi-story-branched games. Like Soul Calibur for example. sure, you can make Ivy give up the Soul Edge in the 3rd one, but then you see her doing the same shit in the 4th one. Lmao that's the best example I could think of. Hope it makes sense

[@RoccoDeLuca-hb9ny]

@@RobotnikPlngas or you can be like the leader writer of elder scrolls 2 daggerfall and make every Ending canon fucking up the timespace, writing books while high on cocaine. Yes that really happened

[@T3hSt1ng]

The BG3 Sarevok lore is pretty retarded and cringy. In the originals you could resurrect him to be a regular mortal, with him loosing his bhaalspawn bloodline, after dying first death. You could even change his alignment from chaotic evil to chaotic good (one of few characters that is possible in whole series). He, then, by the endgame went to eastern lands of Kara-tur to burry hes beloved Tamoko, where he gained fame of a hero(with or without changing his alignment). Seeing him as some lame priest of bhaal living under the city in hes old armour is just sad. Was expecting to see him return as a companion in a cool weeb hat and with a katana.

[@marcusc9931]

Trying to redeem Sarevok is like trying to redeem Darth Maul. And yes, it's sad, but sometimes there is no happy ending.

[@WindwardQuietist]

Sarevok was ruined in this game. I used to like this character.

[@martialartist467]

Ok what the Targaryen is this