Sauron VS Palpatine VS Voldemort | Who Will Win?

[@thedoctordallin]

Here's the real kicker for this battle: it goes to Sauron, even if he "loses." Ignoring all arguments and just making the base assumption that either Palpatine or Voldemort could defeat Sauron's physical form and make him retreat (they really don't have a way to end him for good) by separating and obtaining the ring from him and taking it for themselves, the ring alone would make Sauron the victor in time. This is due to both the nature of the ring, and the character of Palpatine and Voldamort. The ring, by nature and design, both cannot be easily destroyed, AND basically makes anyone who possesses it not desire to actually destroy it when they get the option. Even the best and most good hearted of individuals were capable of being corrupted by the ring, and it took literal divine intervention to ensure the ring was destroyed in an accident. So it is highly doubtful that either Palpatine or Voldemort could cave the power, knowledge, or willpower destroy the ring. But even if we then assume they had a method of destroying the ring, we STILL can't say they would. Thisbis because we know the nature of these two characters. They are both about as power hungry and corrupt as individuals can get. The ring magnifies the power of whoever wields it, and that is something neither of these men would be able to pass up. Claiming they would destroy the ring if they could is so blatantly out of character for them that it can be taken as an impossibility. They would take the ring for themselves, use it to reign with terror, all the while being slowly subjected to Sauron's influence by it. Before very long, whoever had it would just be another Ringwraith under Sauron's control, and he is free to return and claim what is his. Total victory for Sauron in the long run.

[@randywoodworth5990]

Sauron is an angelic level being he is leagues above them both.

[@munk2004]

Same dude who lost his ring in battle by men

[@jessejames6106]

@@munk2004men elves and dwarves the literal “last alliance” took the entirety of middle earth to cut off his finger so he’d die

[@munk2004]

@@jessejames6106 same with palpatine. Took the entire galaxy to stand up to his tyranny

[@jessejames6106]

@@munk2004 uhm no it took two dudes it took the entire galaxy to stand up to Vader and the empire palpatine played only a diplomatic role in that war and someone who taught anakin the ways of the sith in fact when sidious was more powerful we almost got killed if it wasn’t for anakin

[@diogocordoeiro4999]

@@jessejames6106 incorrect palps faked his weaknes to manipulate anakin. Even tho palps was more active in the manipulation of the senate (for hiding purposes), bro was still fcking unstoppable the fight against maul and savage really shows that, and god, maul was powerfull. The fact that he did it with so much ease shows what were dealing with. Still I really dont know Sauron that well so im not saying his winning, just saying it wont be easy for him

[@davidsavage5630]

Voldemort is a joke here. Really it's between Sauron and Palpatine..

[@JL-nb1yc]

He couldn't even conquer a high school. 😂😂😂

[@W1ckedRcL]

No it isn't 😂 Sauron is an Immortal lesser god. He stomps Palpatine, no question.

[@ryanmcnasty746]

Let me see you take on Harry Potter and live to tell the tale buddy.. 😂😂

[@jasonlauritsen5587]

​@@W1ckedRcLbut can he win a battle against someone who can move faster than the eye can keep up with, whom shoots lightning, has telekinesis, and what is essentially a plasma sword, that happens to be many times hotter than Mount Doom's lava could ever dream of getting? If it were vs Sauron during the War of Wrath, i can see it being a battle without a true ending until Sauron finally just cheats somehow and one shots Palpatine. But Sauron would get "killed" over and over again until then.

[@lorenzoarledge7225]

a hobbit beat sauron , and palpatine died from a shaft, so you and danco can stop bragging on those two

[@ggarzagarcia]

Sauron, then The Senate. WTF is Voldemort? Can’t keep up with a teenager…

[@waldimort453]

Well, even if Voldemort has the best chance of losing here, that's not entirely true with the teenager, the teenager had various advantages to defeat Voldemort in the end. that was a bit like luffy and enel you should know one piece.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

Voldemort divided and conquered the whole wizarding world. People worldwide did not dared to speak his name...

[@NickB-l2z]

The only reason he lost to harry was the elder wand wasn’t his it was loyal to harry if it wasn’t harry would’ve lost

[@bensmith5581]

Sauron lost to a Hobbit mate, with zero power

[@davepresley4689]

​​@@bensmith5581that's what I'm saying 😂 I don't think voldemort could take souron but Harry could probably take frodo so ? If thats the logod people want to use?

[@thewanderingrambler7420]

Sauron makes Palps his Slave. Palps would be saurons ace. Voldemort gets to serve drinks.

[@Rodanguyy]

Then sauron gets his ring cut of and becomes weak then palps betrays him then gets voldemort to teach him magic and mixes it with the force and then just kils voldemort or make him his aprentice But If the dark lords have their army then voldemort is cooked sauron tries to fight the empire Meanwhile palps and vader: death star go brrrrr Middle earth go boom

[@ГришаВаулин-з7ъ]

​@@Rodanguyy, Palpatine will not be able to destroy Middle-earth, because it is said that Arda cannot be destroyed against the will of Eru Iluvatar (almighty God LOTR) + The Valar won't let him do it

[@Rodanguyy]

@@ГришаВаулин-з7ъ all mighty God of one planet Palpatine ruler of the galaxy and the force is technically also ruler of everything one death star blow and its gone

[@ГришаВаулин-з7ъ]

​@@Rodanguyy,😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Even Arda is already a solar system, and the universe is called Ea. But Ea is not one universe, the Halls of Ea are described as so immeasurable that no mathematics, physics, astronomy, logic or philosophy can describe them even close (Read The Ring of Morgoth, Tolkien's letters and the very beginning of the Silmarillion). Terms such as "Multiverse", "Hyperuniverse", "Spatial Dimensions" and so on mean nothing at the Ea scale. But besides Ea, there are other creations that are more immeasurable and infinite. And then there are the Halls of Timelessness, the inhabitants of which are completely transcendent and look at reality as FICTION. The Eru Iluvatar surpasses everything by an infinite number of times. He is completely omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal, omniscient and transcendent. He is the true master of all that has been, is, will be and will not be. In the Fragments of the Elven Reincarnation, it is said that the power and authority of Iluvatar is unlimited both OUTSIDE and inside his plan.

[@ГришаВаулин-з7ъ]

​@@Rodanguyy, Bro, you don't know anything about Tolkien's Legendarium. Palpatine will not stand even the presence of one of the Valar, who can control all matter and energy, Yes, which is immeasurable And for the future, Cosmology does not matter to an omnipotent being, because it can expand cosmology as much as it wants. Remember

[@CZilla95]

Sauron is a literal god and almost every time he loses is because he's fighting a godly being or because the god of Tolkien's Universe stops him, also between the three of these its inevitable he'd win given he's immortal.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

Sauron couldn't even take over a small part of a single planet. Neither could Morgoth. Palpatine literally conquered a galaxy.

[@Leaf-yw5eq]

@@JeremyKenny-h9p​​⁠​⁠palpatine didn’t have gods trying to stop him, and it doesn’t matter because Sauron is immortal

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@@Leaf-yw5eqgods? The Valar didn't do anything to Sauron, except send the Istari (with greatly diminished powers) to inspire men to fight for themselves. He was terrified of the Numenorians, and surrendered without a fight. Yes, he rotted them through lie and subterfuge, but Tolkien made it very clear that he was cowed by the Numenorians as cowards are. And they were men. Not gods. Sauron was an absolurw wimp. You act like it was unfair to habe vast powers against him, but ok for him to be above all his foes? Nope. Isildur killed him. Water killed him. He surrendered to the Numenoreans, and created the one ring because he feared the elves. That is canon.

[@JoeMama-wo3hi]

Palpatine can destroy planets

[@Leaf-yw5eq]

@@JoeMama-wo3hi yeah but Sauron’s immortal

[@Ghidorah_Stan64]

We’re talking about a wizard, a space wizard, and a fallen angel… Imma go with the angel.

[@Mutavorical]

stop the cap. can Palpatine mind-control millions of individuals at once? Nope. Sauron would crush his mind with pure evil.

[@stardust1621]

Lol

[@sreyna3000]

With out the ring of power Sauron seems pretty pointless

[@ibrahimsurti4922]

​@@sreyna3000tham you don't know Boi Sauron is a Maiar......he has servants that can crush this 2

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@ibrahimsurti4922 being maiar sure didn't ever keep Sauron from losing & dying. That's all he really seemed to do well.

[@kamixakadio2441]

@@JeremyKenny-h9p He's still alive after his "death" in Return of the King, thats kind of the point, he can't die, and the only way for him to be beaten, is by throwing the One ring into Mount Doom. Any other volcano wouldn't work.

[@W1ckedRcL]

Sauron wins, every time. Even if he is physically defeated, and that's a big if, Palpatine WILL succumb to the power of The Ring.

[@Make_it_easy001]

And then it turns out that Palpatine was conducting research on a secret planet, with the participation of a billion scientists and sorcerers. And now he controls the power of the ring, and Sauron is his puppet.

[@hoodedone8547]

Sauron during the Lord of the Rings could never fuck with Palpatine. He only had a couple orcs, Palpatine controlled HUNDREDS of worlds.

[@W1ckedRcL]

@@hoodedone8547 there were actually thousands of worlds in the galactic empire by the Battle of Endor. Sauron was the inspiration for bad guys like palpatine. During the battle of the Morannon Sauron outnumbered the army of men by over 10 to 1. At the battle of the Pelenor Fields he outnumbered them by more than 3 to 1. He also controlled more land and had the most dangerous servants in the Nazgul. So in terms of scale they were equivalent.

[@Make_it_easy001]

Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Siths, Lord of the Rats.

[@kamixakadio2441]

@@Make_it_easy001 Wouldnt work like that

[@BigHanktheStank]

SUARON HANDS DOWN....!!!!!!!

[@captaincooool]

until his finger gets cut off by a regular human huh? Palpatine glasses middle Earth with a force storm and Sauron cries about it through his eye tower

[@nickv.s125]

@@captaincooool that's due to Erru Illuvatar's intervention, who decides the fate of all Arda. Without Erru's influence, Sauron would have won.

[@antoniogivaldri5184]

@@captaincooool That's the movie, in the books he was barely defeated by Elendil, who was a 2.5m tall numenorean, and Gil-Galad, the high king of the Noldor.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

How? He couldn't even conquer Middle-Earth, only a small part of a planet.

[@mrverironiottan]

The ability to control Middle Earth is insignificant next to the power of the Force. I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[@Sidionian]

First of all, Sauron survived the greatest wars in Middle Earth history, whilst being in the thick of battle and commanding armies against literal GODS (the Valar) and Demigods (Maiar). He was the most powerful and trusted Captain of Satan himself (Melkor), and survived the fall of Numenor, which was destroyed by Eru (God) himself (NOT SAURON, although Sauron manipulated the entire Numenorean civilization to attack Valinor). And while his body was destroyed, Sauron himself always managed to return and rebuild his strength. And he was not killed by Gil Galad (he killed both The high King of the Elves and the King of Men in single combat and faced their armies almost alone outside of his fortress), and was surprised by Isildur cutting his ring from his finger, which still didn't stop Sauron from killing Isildur (indirectly by seducing him with his ring) and didn't stop Sauron from returning without a ring and almost re-conquering Middle Earth (without his ring). Palpatine was killed by a half robot in a machine suit, and he did not return (ignoring the sequels, which are Disney Fan Fiction and not Star Wars Cannon according to the original vision of Lucas). Palpatine was a mortal man who was killable. A very powerful man, but mortal nonetheless. Sauron was an immortal Demigod who existed before time and space and managed to defy the Valar and Eru for thousands upon thousands of years and survived several of the greatest wars in the universe, where Satan himself (Melkor) was defeated twice, and he managed to escape twice and return again and again to continue his plans. Palpatine would be nothing more than a minor, short inconvenience for Sauron. Let's not forget that Sauron was a natural shape shifter, who could turn himself into a horrible werewolf, a vampire, a snake, or an angelic being that can take on an entire world with his will alone. This video is ridiculous, and I'm a huge Palpatine fan! But neither Palps nor Voldemort could contend with the will of Sauron.

[@jameswhite3415]

Eh LOTR characters seem not far above human level even in the Silmarillion via feats, what they get killed from, etc. I couldn't see anyone besides the Valar putting up a fight against a modern military, for instance, in a straight-up fight.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@Sidionian let's not forget Sauron lost the power to shapeshift after the sinking of Numenor. He was stuck in dark lord mode, not that he ever was even strong enough in the 3rd age to manifest that way. Here's the thing: pretty much everyone has an immortal spirit in Tolkien, and elves reincarnate too. Sauron's only big shows of power were in guile and shapeshifting. And he couldn't shapeshift after Numenor. The fact that he felt he needed to forge a ring to try to control the elves & enhance his power means he doubted in own his power to subdue them in the first place. And none of it worked. Hell, an elf permanently wounded Morgoth in battle. An elf. And Sauron is no Morgoth. He loses to talking dogs, men, hobbits, the white counsel chased him from Mirkwood. He surrendered without a fight to the Numenoreans, because he could not face them in open battle. He did them in the sneaky way. Tolkien made it clear he was scared of the Numenoreans. And they're just men. Luthien was only half-Maiar. Huan was a big, bad talking dog. Isildur. Tidal waves. And of course, Eonwe. All those things beat Sauron. Yes, he endures. But so do elves. So do men, albeit their spirits mostly leave Arda. The ring was a terrible idea. He's really not that smart. He & Morgoth both never understood that power doesn't mean much to some folks.

[@Sidionian]

@@JeremyKenny-h9p you seem to forget he was struck by real lightning from the heavens several times and it did nothing to him. Lightning much more powerful than whatever Palpatine produces. What is Palpatine going to do to Sauron? Force push or force choke him? He can easily dodge the push by shape shifting and he would crush Palpatine simply by transforming into a large flame ball. Morgoth was wounded by an Elf, because he had already poured most of his power into the very fabric of reality itself. He was maybe not even 1 millionth of his actual life force, when fighting the greatest warrior elf of all time. And he still won, even with some effort. The dog you're talking about was a Demigod himself, in Dog Form. And as others have pointed out, only was able to barely defeat Wolf Sauron because of Divine Intervention. So, it took a Demi God + Divine Intervention to defeat Sauron, with great difficulty, ad you're using this as an argument? Thanks for proving my point.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@Sidionian you think you're probing a point by saying your supreme Maiar is only a badass against beings of much less power, and different race/species. But he couldn't handle the dog of Valinor. I highly doubt he could've beaten Melian, also a Maiar. Or Gothmog. There's elves he couldn't even mess with. He's a continental threat, maybe worldwide threat at best, giving him a lot of leeway there. He is not a galaxy-wide threat. Palpatine could just send the Death Star and vaporize Arda to atoms. No need to dirty the hands.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@Sidionian before you say a Death Star isn't fair, I submit that Melkor made many monsters as weapons, which Sauron took full advantage of. But those don't scratch the surface of the power of the toys Palpatine has at his disposal.

[@slimkillah76]

Sauron is not, nor has he ever been human. He is a being who naturally is beyond a human. He is older than both of them combined.

[@thetruebiggestdon]

But can he dodge force lightning?

[@vintagecardboardusa]

Sauron is literally what Palpatine wishes he could be... Sauron would make Palps his puppet.

[@Francis_Castiglione]

@@vintagecardboardusa Sauron was defeated by a dog

[@SoldierOfGodwyn]

​@@Francis_Castiglione And Palpatine wasn't?

[@cheesyfries7703]

@@Francis_Castiglione he was defeated while in form of a wolf a divinely juiced hound, while Papatine was defeated by a dying cyborg juiced on love for his son. Very different

[@nshtr13]

@@cheesyfries7703 also Huan only won by the help of Luthien who sang in order to blind and distract sauron. Sauron was clearly winning until Luthien helped Huan

[@Reconciliations]

Palpatine woulda smoked all those orcs that killed him just saying

[@kamixakadio2441]

Sauron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palpatine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voldemort This isn't a fight by any means. Their only 2 common aspects is the "Dark lord" title and their magic like power. Sauron is a Maiar, an Angel, he's actually immortal. Even after his "death" in the LoTR movies, he's still alive. He far outscales, outhaxes and outmanipulates Palpatine, even if you use Legends Palpatine. Voldemort is heavily outmatched by both of them.

[@Mimic_45]

Beetlejuice VS The Mask

[@rodrigoesteves6779]

Up

[@jorgec2233]

The mask is basically lokis toy isn't it? Probably still win

[@davidb7180]

King Kong vs T-800

[@justiceaboagyePhausteenoe]

Sauron didn't cause the waves to destroy numenor!!! That is wrong. It was illuvitar himself who destroyed numenor!

[@that_1_guy975]

Not saying who would win, but don’t count the Dark Lord out so easily. The “dog” he was fighting that wrestled him to a stamdstill was a super-powered, magical, and hyperintelligent being that has previously been the familiar of an actual god. Besides, when destroyed he rebuilds his body on his own and doesn't need to steel power like Sideous to do so.

[@allens4974]

I would have to vote Sauron would win. His body is truly is just a physical manifestation of his will and unlike the others can be created at will. Yes, the other two may have some semblance of Immortality, Sauron is the only one of the three actually referred to as Immortal. Voldemort and Palpatine are both mortal and as such have mortal desires. This makes them both easy to manipulate and become subservient to Sauron.

[@laurencewinch-furness9450]

I could easily imagine Sauron conceding a fight, then carefully manipulating the other two until they're just his slaves.

[@ionlytalkboxing3648]

Manipulate palpatine? Dudes name literally means insidious. Palpatine is so smart and manipulated everything.

[@laurencewinch-furness9450]

@ionlytalkboxing3648 Just because someone is good at manipulating others, doesn't mean they aren't themselves vulnerable. Palpatine had plenty of weaknesses a skilled manipulator could exploit. Vain, egotistical, and power-hungry, Sauron could offer Palpatine a great deal - without explaining the price.

[@Make_it_easy001]

Sauron has an all-seeing eye. Palpatine has eyes and ears all over the galaxy. And then it turns out that Palpatine was conducting research on a secret planet, with the participation of a billion scientists and sorcerers. And now he controls the power of the ring, and Sauron is his puppet.

[@kamixakadio2441]

@@ionlytalkboxing3648 Palpatine's manipulation did not allow him to see that Vader, his own apprentice, was seconds away from killing him.

[@truthseeker6532]

Sauron. It's a no contest gimme.

[@TheStrudelJonny]

Sauron is an immortal being

[@victorflisch]

Yeap! He is. But loosing a fight and a ring against palpatine, he would be a shadow, and if he doesn’t have time to recover, e will stay like that. If a numenorian sword can cut Sauron’s finger… a lightsaber would be pretty easy

[@onelove101unity]

@@victorflisch He's an immortal being, he'll always return. Even after the events of LoTR he's not dead, merely banished from Middle Earth. This one is kind of like saying could the most powerful creature on earth defeat a demon sent from hell, the answer is no.

[@f1jones544]

@@onelove101unity "somehow, Palpatine has returned."

[@waldimort453]

It's true that Sauron wasn't killed, but he was defeated anyway because he can't return because of the destruction of the ring. and even if the ring isn't destroyed, it takes decades to recover enough to create a body. He would still be defeated in this vs. just not dead.​@@onelove101unity

[@ambroseyoung9774]

To be fair it took a demigod elf and a high king of numenor aka demigod human to fight him to a standstill and they both died in the process.​@victorflisch

[@DEATHapproaches69420]

Sauron clearly no debate. Palpatine might do some stuff but voldemort cant do shit against sauron

[@angelicplace5615]

Sauron would wipe the floor with those 2 chumps!

[@Gramakin]

Sauron immediately surrenders to Palpatine. Becomes strong in the Empire. Bends wills to his domination. Supplants Palpatine. Rules Galaxy.

[@pantahir3000]

Palpatine would be the one who surrenders

[@eaglefangkaratedojo7473]

@@pantahir3000 No, Sauron uses the exact same fake surrender strategy against Númenor and uses that to win. His main power is manipulation he sorta sucks at actual combat

[@pantahir3000]

@@eaglefangkaratedojo7473 yea right as if he didn't take on the two most skilled and powerful fighters in middle earth in a 2v1 💀🙏

[@eaglefangkaratedojo7473]

@@pantahir3000 He was forced to. It was a multi year siege and his army was devastated. He doesn’t come out until he has to and Elendil and Gil Galad, while they die in the process, wound him critically enough for Isildur to be able to cut the ring off his finger. This is literally the reason he spends the entire book sitting in his tower.

[@pantahir3000]

@@eaglefangkaratedojo7473 r u really tryna down play taking on elendil and gil galad in a 2v1 💀🙏

[@asingh4025]

i understand how powerful palpatine is ... but as you said Sauron's powers are in will and mind control... it wouldn't be long before palpatine became sauron greatest servant

[@TheClassicMufasa]

Sauron vs. Vitiate would make way more sense I'm not sure who the third would be. I feel like this video needs to be redone.

[@darkride_enthusiast69420]

i agree

[@Frontedd]

Still Sauron. Try again

[@TheClassicMufasa]

@@Frontedd Then who would your pick be?

[@wesleyhamilton5498]

Huan the Wolfhound was a great wolfhound and hunting dog of Oromë the Hunter (one of the Valar, who are more like Archangels than gods because Eru Ilúvatar, who is God, exists). Huan was granted special powers by Oromë. Among those were: Huan was immortal, tireless, sleepless, and he could speak. The fight with Sauron and Huan was lost for Sauron because Sauron tried to fight Huan as a werwolf, not as himself. Be real here bro, Sauron took part in creation and took a biblical event to the face with the fall of Númenor. Sauron's losses in canon are to the biggest badasses (yes, including Huan, who is the goodest boy). Palps is getting boddied harder than Anakin on Mustafar.

[@LordSiravant]

Not even that. Sauron lost because God literally intervened and made Luthien's cloak wrap around his face so that he became momentarily drowsy as he lunged at her. When he first appeared in werewolf form, Huan explicitly leapt aside at the horror of his approach. Sauron kept losing due to divine intervention, all the way up to the destruction of his Ring. You know who God DIDN'T meddle with in the same degree to ensure he would fall? Morgoth. The fights Sauron lost were either due to straight-up divine intervention, or fighting fellow badasses while he is at a disadvantage. (like in the second age, he had not fully recovered yet from the Fall of Numenor when the Last Alliance made war against him, so he wasn't at his full strength when he fought Gil-Galad and Elendil and STILL mutual-killed them both) Yeah, Palpatine would FEAR Sauron as a deadly, deadly threat, comparable to the Son directly acting against him.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@LordSiravant where did it ever say Illuvitar intervened on any of this? They only time Illuvitar himself is even said to maybe be directly involved in physical activity on Arda was the sinking of Numenor (more likely that it was Ulmo), and maybe nudging Gollum into the Crack of Doom. To be technical, the Valar themselves didn't even fight in the War of Wrath. They sent their armies under Eonwe, a Maiar who defeated Sauron. If the Valar weren't getting directly involved, Illuvitar would be less likely. Also, why is it an unfair fight when Sauron is taken down by his own kind, but he's strong for fighting weaker races? Not the way it works. That's not strength, that's cowardice. And that's why he loses. Along with being a really dumb wimp who thought he needed a ring to fight lesser beings, and made himself less by doing so. In regards to the ring, it was an even dumber version of Voldemort's holcrux thing. Not a very smart immortsl from the dawn of time.

[@wesleyhamilton5498]

@JeremyKenny-h9p broadly all true, and I agree with your point on limited intervention, but you forgot that Eru Ilúvatar also intervened in sending Gandalf back after his fall, that is heavily (if not directly) implied by the text also.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@wesleyhamilton5498 although I'm sure Illuvitar had the final say on Gandalf's return, I would think the actual act was in Mandos & Manwe's hands, as it was for Beren. That's usually their department.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

I mean, technically, you could say every single thing that happened in Middle-Earth is due to the direct or indirect influence of Illuvatar. That was the point he drove home to Melkor, which largely led to the big temper tantrum that started the whole conflict.

[@davepresley4689]

It took a literal act of god to defeat sauron for good.

[@stevieb3432]

Im about to watch this, but my pre watch opinion is that it depends on the context. Voldemort isn't even in the conversation. He may technically be unkillable with the horcruxes, but Sauron would do a beat down and chain him in the fires of Mount Doom for eternity. Sauron wins the war every time. Even if Palpatine wins the battle, sauron is an immortal lesser god. He'll just regenerate and be back at Palpatine forever, at full strength, until the ring is destroyed. Unlike when Palpatine does in the sequel trilogy. Palpatine would have to win over and over again for eternity, and Sauron only has to win once. Not to mention, sauron would dominate their minds to be his servants before fighting even started, i think the choice is pretty clear here in my opinion

[@P0T051]

Somehow palpatine returned… somehow Sauron returned… hmm but Sauron did it without clones

[@VellanShadow]

I will concede that in a straight up fight, Sauron would lose. But we know from when Númenoreans marched upon Middle-Earth to confront Sauron, that he is able to recognise a superior foe and won't engage with them in direct combat. Instead he would deceive and corrupt Palpatine as he did the Númenoreans. In a more realistic confrontation than simply "they are fighting now" Sauron would certain come up on top

[@icarusthefly5458]

Sauron would win definitely. First he would try to manipulate. Which would be very easy because the dark side is giving in to your emotions. Exactly like the rings. If that doesnt work, he will build up his armies and let them do the work. If that doesnt work he will fight but prob lose versus palpatine. Lastly he will just abide his time untill palpatine is no more and then reign the world.

[@MyrdinAnnoth]

The question is, how would Sauron and the Force mix together. Sauron is a god like being. He wields powers that are on par and above the Force. That is not to say he is above the Force. What that means, is that I could see Sauron manipulating the flow of the Force. After all he was a schemer with thousands of years of experiences. Sauron would not even need to show himself. He could simply let the Ring do its thing. After all Palpatine was still a human. And he desired power above all else... he could not resist the allure of the Ring. And through it he would became Saurons most powerful servant.

[@TheTrueBobDole]

I'm reminded of the meme. Emperor ruled over 30 years. Sauron tried to conquer the world twice. Voldedork tried to take over a school and failed. 🤣

[@pantahir3000]

Sauron still Slams 😭🙏

[@MarcoAntonio-wn3qi]

dude, one time I was high with two friends and we started arguing who would dominate the world first and overcome the other two if Sauron, Voldemort and Palpatine were thrown into Earth starting from zero with their respective powers. Palpatine would go to Brazil, Sauron to India and Voldemort to Africa (we selected hard places to thrive). That was so fun. I guess it would be a great fiction.

[@Rodanguyy]

Probably palpatine as if its real world earth they would have to gacher armies and rule with politics and stuff as there's no magic which sauron relies on to make rings or just tell folks likes but palps would have experience climbing up politiks and eventually become the senate Meanwhile voldemort would get sent to area 51 or something

[@pedroaugustocostaguerrajun4004]

I love Palpatine, but I don’t think of anything or anyway, he can beat Sauron, a immortal demi-god, magical being with thousands of years of experience…

[@DEATHapproaches69420]

8:38 no. Palpatine only killed windu bcs if anakin

[@philkugler2429]

I hate to be the "umm actually" guy, but Sauron didn't destroy Numenor with waves. That was Eru. Sauron destroyed it with his cunning.

[@peptide7598]

I actually had Palpatine losing to both, because I'm not sure he has any real defense against their type of magic.

[@Ninjersey1]

Love Star Wars and palpatine but Sauron is a different being

[@prestigeshogun1534]

Palpatine is THE being.

[@Francis_Castiglione]

@@Ninjersey1 Sauron doesn't have the feats to match Palpatine. Feats > writers conjecture.

[@TraplineJams]

I don't think Sauron can really be defeated without destroying the One Ring. Also I think you under-sold the Elves and Numenorians who went toe to toe with him. Still, great video.

[@mikerryan85]

Sauron is literally a Maiar. Even Palps can’t handle him. Voldy shouldn’t even be in the argument. Easy dub for the Lidless Eye.

[@blas.z]

All sauron needs is give his ring to these two and its over. No need for a fight. He'll just wait and manipulate for as long as he Needs and these two will be under his command. Whats terrifies me is sauron having full access to galactic empire tech.

[@Aaahrg]

Sauron = Most internal power (basicly a god), Palpatine = Most external power (ruled a whole galaxy), Voldemort = Most versatile (biggest set of skills)

[@calebbrown419]

Sauron slaps and its not close

[@brantfrans8595]

Sauron will annihilate them.

[@cakemix5877]

I agree with you when you called them top tier baddies 😏especially that Sauron

[@jackolantern147]

It took the capital G God directly intervening 3 times for Sauron to be defeated.

[@Francis_Castiglione]

@jackolantern147 it would little g since the God of the LotR universe isn't actually God but a minor aspect.

[@Iluvantir]

@@Francis_Castiglione Incorrect. Within the lore of Tolkien's world, Eru Iluvatar (The One Father of All) is the "Capital g God". Eternal, self-existing, and holding the source of Life itself (Flame Imperishable). Tolkien wrote him to be an allegory of the God of Israel, just as CS Lewis had "The Emperor Over the Sea" as his OWN stand-in for "Capital g God"

[@kingshadow8782]

Sauron Solos!

[@marcosvmsdm]

Sauron lost a dog....Its not a simple dog.

[@Mimic_45]

I have one better: Saruman VS Count Dooku Who's the most powerful Christopher Lee character?

[@CurseShot]

Hey there, not trying to come off as an ass here but that "tough dog" you speak off was a Hound of Valinor and Sauron was weakened by the magic Luthien who zapped him of his strength. Sauron survived events that neither Palpatine nor Voldemort could've which is not only the War of Powers and the Sinking of Numenor and too the Battle of the Last Alliance. I would suggest rereading the lore and understanding just how powerful Sauron is and was.

[@ghostinyourattic3545]

Voldy couldn't take over a high-school, lost to a teen who didn't attend his final year of wizardry school. If he hadnt been so fixated of harry he could have taken over but no, he was crippled by his belief of the prophecy that he made happen

[@Jack1m5a]

There was one mistake about saurons lore, he didn't destroy numenor, it was eru him self who destroyed numenor, because he was kinda pissed off that numenor was helping Sauron. That's how Sauron got killed, the second recordet time

[@Soldout360]

Homelander vs Mr.Incredible Joker vs Hawkeye (both comics) Batman (movies) vs The deep She hulk vs Starfire (both comics) Power girl vs Raven (both comics) Goku vs Dr. Strange (comics) Vegeta vs Loki (comics) Beerus vs Ghost Rider (comics) Who would win and why?

[@TheRealBillCipher334]

Homelander Hawkeye Batman She Hulk Raven Dr Strange Vegeta Ghost Rider

[@mattdespard6576]

It's difficult to rank because on pure power/strength Sauron is a divine/immortal being, who had literal Gods sending other immortal emissaries to oppose him. Whereas Palpatine's conquering of the galaxy was as much or more due to his supreme intellect and political savvy, rather than his mastery of the dark side of the force. In a single battle, I agree that Palpatine could beat Voldemort or Sauron, but the latter had means to achieve immortality, meaning Palpatine would have to keep winning every single fight whereas Sauron or Voldemort would only have to win once, as they can keep coming back for more. I think in terms of intelligence and fighting ability, Palpatine is first, but Sauron is objectively a more powerful being. Voldemort is tough because he can't do squat without his wand aside from talk to snakes.

[@BTPSK8469]

this is the nerdiest thing i've ever watched. Love it.

[@timothywilliams2252]

It would beak down the same if these three could use their followers in this match: Voldemort has a handful of powerful wizards, but Sauron literally has an orc hord at his back... say around a 100,000, maybe more. However, Palpatine has Vader, as well as his Inquisitors and his Hands, and then an army of millions... So, no matter how you bake this bread, Palpatine still comes out on top

[@FootballTape]

Sung Jin woo vs one punch man

[@christophergonzalez1893]

I think it be easy for Sauron to manipulate palpz. Remember that Sidious wants and craves immortality. He is a powerful person yes, but ultimately he’s a mortal greedy man. Seems like a demon who tempts men with promises of power could get one over on the old Sith Lord.

[@solaire07]

My money's on Sauron

[@abeloth1116]

If it’s Legends Palpatine he will Win with ease

[@Melkorsolostheverse]

cap Sauron negs comp. SW

[@abeloth1116]

@@Melkorsolostheverse 🤣🤣

[@sortofhuman]

Souron is pronounced "s ow ron" Not soron

[@participantparticipant506]

Palpatine wouldn't be dumb enough to confront either, he would one shot both Earth's with the death star.

[@capricornyearofthetiger]

However I do need to point out the obvious according to how they all were brought down, Palpatine and Voldemort were killed by teenagers and Sauron was ended some a twisted hobbitish creature that was like a crack addict.

[@Make_it_easy001]

Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Siths, Lord of the Rats.

[@richmanezihuo7214]

😅😂 couldn't have put it any better! Rats could win if he plays it smart... Hehe

[@gdmalouf9178]

voldemort was killed by a baby because his mom loved him lmaooooo. Despite his horcruxes, his plot armor wouldn’t save him from Palpatine and Sauron, both of which also returned to life. Out of the 3, palpatine is the only person who came back to life for absolutely no reason lmao so imma give it to him

[@DEATHapproaches69420]

The palpatine glazing in this video is crazy. He cant drain the force energy of anything, he can literally get beaten up by vader, who only obeyed him bcs he was the last one who he trusted, and he cant mass manipulate people into believing things didnt exist, nor can he see thoughts.

[@j-light8333]

Honestly having the father from mortas here would have been better than palpitine for sauron

[@TheDjbenton]

Martian Manhunter vs Vision

[@Frontedd]

Martian man hunter and it’s not close

[@nitshian]

I can't tell who wins here it depends mainly on resistance to magic and here is why: 1. In Star Wars there is magic but is it follow the same rules like those in LOTR and in Harry Potter ? 2. Force in SW doesn't work outside SW Galaxy and on beings outside the SW Galaxy. 3. Palpatine died from fall in to the shaft! 4. If Magic is the same on the three planes and Sauron doesn't have instant death resistance Voldemort will one shot the other two. 5. Sauron is Immortal and will return, Palpatine will return his spirit in the clone body that he hide across the galaxy and in rematch who knows!

[@abeloth1116]

If i May correct you, the force is an omnipresent all-powerful essence which exists Not only in „one galaxy“ but in the entire universe and is also multidimensional.

[@nitshian]

@@abeloth1116 I am no expert but. In the beggining of the movies they state "galaxy far far away" sugesting it's in our univese. Obi-Wan Kenobi explains the Force to Luke as "an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the GALAXY together." Later we know about midi-chlorians that all of the inhabitants of the galaxy have. Their galaxy is in some sord of bubble that prevent free travel out and in, that is that? When Yuuzhan vong, species out of the galaxy invaded, they were largely unaffected by the force. It's debatable before we have official statement, you may be right about the force but, that is my information on the topic.

[@JaydenDimaio]

​@@nitshian They travel to a different galaxy in Ashoka, force still works.

[@JustFlemishMe]

Given that the Killing Curse doesn't seem to damage either body or soul, it probably messes with the bond between the two. Which works very differently in Ainur to normal physical beings. There's no guarantee the Killing Curse would work. At best, it may expel Sauron from his body. Which is a setback, no more.

[@oxndvvfkuhl7540]

sauron would turn both of them into his nazgul without even trying. they would turn themselfes into the nazgul, really. the evil cant defeat evil and sauron is the superior evil

[@HakolBeseder09]

Palpatine vs Thanos

[@ethanhill9133]

In a fight palpatine would take Sauron but then would put on the ring corrupting him leaving his mind enslaved to saurons will so in the end Sauron wins

[@volkl787]

Sauron is an angelic being. He is one of if not the most powerful maiar. Darth Sidious wouldn’t do shit. Also that dog was the dog of a god. Come on it’s an easy win to a fallen angel.

[@volkl787]

Thinking about it, palpating would win. Tolkien’s world and Star Wars power levels are just so different. Tolkien’s world is supposed to be our world thousands of years ago. Stars wars is a sci fi series with swords of light. The power levels are again just different.

[@Mimic_45]

Freddy Krueger VS Pennywise

[@Ulooklikekeith]

Sauron is defeated by “just people” ? Lfmao the most powerful hero’s of the age are just people? WHAT?!?!? 😂😂😂

[@camroncox2846]

Hey he finally did Sauron let’s goo

[@extraplain2412]

I'd rather see them all working together.

[@TheDjbenton]

Odin (MCU) vs Doctor Fate (DCEU)

[@Marinanor]

Okay, Sauron wins this. How about Saruman vs Voldemort?

[@Uriel77200]

Sauron is a lesser God. Immortal. This isnt even close.

[@Marcelocostache]

And even among the lesser gods he is considered one of the most powerful not to mention what he learned from Aule and Melkor make him close to the upper gods in power, he is a powerhouse and a real threat to everybody even beings who originally where stronger then him.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@Uriel77200 except he's repeatedly been killed and defeated by much lesser beings, was punked by Luthien (only a half-Maia), surrendered without a fight to the Numenorians out of cowardice, then was killed by water, then creates the one ring because he believec he needed more power to defeat the elves. It didn't work. Sauron is a dumb wimp.

[@Marcelocostache]

@@JeremyKenny-h9p Luthien had Huan at her side and if it where not be for her magic Huan would of lost, the numenorians where not normal humans there lifespan was around 300 years they where the strongest of the human race and if you read the books you will find that at the siege of barad-dur at the end of the second age sauron single handily defeated en entire army of elfs and former Numenorians, and Gill-Galad and Elendil where the peak of there respective races on Middle-Earth not to mention that Sauron was still recovering his power from his body getting destroyed on Numenor he was not a full strength even with the one ring.

[@JeremyKenny-h9p]

@Marcelocostache I see a whole lot of excuses for Sauron losing over & over agaim. "Oh, if it wasn't for this, if it wasn't for that, blah da bling da blah...". Sorry, losers gonna lose. The fact that he felt he even needed the One Ring just to defeat the free people of Middle Earth shows how very dumb & weak Sauron was. The ring effectively made him even more vulnerato defeat. For angelic spirit arpund since the beginning of time, Sauron sure was dumb. And a blowhard. He never did anything significant, except lose.

[@Francis_Castiglione]

@Uriel77200 Feats > conjecture. Simple facts are Sauron is planetary at best. Palpatine is trans-planetary.

[@IsaiahRichards-un9eu]

how is palptine coming out on top, Sauron would win he is an immortal being that can only ever be truly destroyed by Eru and technically created the tolkienverse during the ainurlinadale. Sauron Wins...

[@SL-eo5pz]

At this point just do Gandalf vs Dumblwdore (Gandalf Wins)

[@xsoundofsil3nc3x96]

Lore accurate Sauron from the book’s absolutely annihilates both Voldemort and Palpetine. Voldemort and Sideous are both extremely powerful, but they’re just people at the end of the day. Sauron is an immortal, primordial, celestial cosmic being that transcends and predates time and space, and helped create the universe and will ALWAYS exist no matter what, with or without a body, in the physical or metaphysical planes, he’s a cosmic being who more than likely would be seen as the physical embodiment of the Dark Side in the Star Wars universe, Sideous would be likely to worship Sauron, and Sauron would be able to dominate Palpetines will in a second with promises of further power etc. and become one of Sauron’s instruments like Saurumon. Voldemort would be a mere minion or destroyed altogether. Sauron from the books is actually ridiculous.

[@JamesAttwood-f3m]

True. However, if we use the books for Sauron (so he’s at his strongest) it only fair to bring up legends sidious. Sidious may not be able to destroy Sauron, like remove him from existence but that doesn’t matter. I do not believe Sauron has anything that can contend with the force. Legends sidious wins for me.

[@xsoundofsil3nc3x96]

@@JamesAttwood-f3m well Sauron can burn so hot that he sets fire to nearby kingdoms, he can shapeshift, fight in a physical or ethereal form, cause country spanning storms and earthquakes, has the ability to dominate and control the minds of countless armies at once, has telepathy, telekinesis, pyrokenesis, the ability to fly at the speed of sound (did this when he fled east across the sky towards Mordor after fighting the white counsel), Will domination, the ability to recreate his body, can materialize in the physical world from an ethereal state (minor teleportation), can read minds, took a direct attack from God to the face that destroyed an entire continent and survived, can change his physical size, helped Morgoth create an entire mountain range that split a continent, and has powers that extend far beyond the material physical world. Again, access to the force or not, Sideous still isn’t a GOD, and the force never makes him one. Sauron’s base abilities as a Maia celestial gives him nearly every power that can be attained from the Force. Sideous doesn’t stand a chance, and as I said, more than likely would simply see Sauron as the embodiment of the Dark Side.

[@JamesAttwood-f3m]

@@xsoundofsil3nc3x96 legends sidious can create black holes. This means he can manipulate the force in such a way that can bring energy or mass down to a point of infinity this means that at best he the power of a star 12 times larger than our own. Sidious controlled the minds of hundreds of thousands possibly millions of minds all at once for years on end and Sauron can create firestorms, which is easily manipulated even by younglings, controlling elements would be nothing for legends sidious. I’m not claiming sidious stomps here, his win would be extremely difficult but he would win. Also, in legends sidious is the embodiment of the dark side. It’s said that at his strongest he was a possession of the dark and the dark was a possession of his. I’m sorry and I do love Sauron but he can’t contend with legends sidious. He’d beat cannon sidious though which is still no mean feat.

[@xsoundofsil3nc3x96]

@@JamesAttwood-f3m LucasFilm, Disney, and George Lucas himself have made official statements that Star Wars Legends is NOT cannon. I’ve been going off Cannon/lore accurate Sauron. If we do Cannon Sideous, Sauron wins

[@eeefe972]

Sauron losers to a human woth a sword he's weak lol

[@Alex-qj8si]

Sauron didn't destroy numeron in the physical sense just by manipulation

[@BadEconomyOfficial]

I vote 🗳️ Palpatine, the thumbnail image says EVERYTHING.

[@Ge_n_Ge]

Legends Sidious owns Sauron, movies Sidious looses to Sauron.

[@Thomas-mg4pu]

saying Sauron is immortal, he would win since you can't beat him

[@Savagery21]

Palaptine managed to accomplish everything Sauron and Voldemort failed to do. He killed all his enemies, increased his power in the force and conquered the whole galaxy even it was just for a little over 10 years. That's more than any Sith Emperor has ever done.

[@owenscott6159]

Knull from marve sony vs odin mcu who would win

[@leonolsen]

We haven’t even seen the full capacity of both characters in both respective universes. Sony Knull was just teased in the latest trailer so we don’t even know if he’ll be comic accurate, and mcu Odin never had an on screen fight. Maybe this fight would be more interesting if it were the comic counterparts

[@andreasthegreat8509]

”Knull” means something dirty in Swedish

[@coperyte]

Didnt u do this before? Must be a re-release.

[@MLG_Craft]

Everybody just dont understand that Voldemort would win NO-DIF but just everybody doesnt know his true power its so stupid.

[@JustFlemishMe]

Voldemort has one really overpowered move: the Killing Curse. Usually, this is lights out on anyone it hits, except with Sacrifical Love. However, it doesn't guarantee his win, certainly not here. Sauron isn't human. He's not even a physical being. He's a spiritual being who likes to take physical form, to better influence the physical world. While the mechanics aren't exactly spelled out, we do know the Killing Curse doesn't damage the victim's body, and it presumably doesn't damage the soul. The Super Carlin Brothers said (at least that's where I first heard it) there's a third element to people: 'life force'. So... does the Killing Curse destroy that? Does the essence of an Ainu translate to that? Or to a soul? What about power? Yeah, an Ainu's power is tied into its essence, very basically, so how does that change it up? All in all, I think there's just too many problems to just assume it'd work on Sauron. With Palpatine, of course, we don't have those problems. So if Voldemort lands a hit on creamy Sheev, the Sith Lord is done for. However, that's a big 'if'. Spells and hexes and curses are constantly being dodged by witches and wizards. Do I believe witches and wizards have somewhat superior reflexes, instinct, even speed to Muggles? Yeah, sure. Do I believe that beats Force Precognition and Force Speed? Not for a second. The same arguments can be made for much of Voldemort's arsenal. Even Fiendfyre can at best destroy Sauron's physical form and be blocked with a Force Shield or Force Wall. Then it becomes a contest of raw power, and we just haven't seen anything from Voldemort that puts him on a level with Palpatine or Sauron. He's no pushover, don't get me wrong, but he's not out there changing the weather, for instance.

[@JorgeFélixGallegosLópez-v8v]

Joker (DC Comics) vs Jafar (Aladdín) Batman vs Jack Frost (The Rise of Guardians) Hulk vs Swamp Thing Harley Quinn vs Deadpool Naruto Uzumaki vs Superman

[@TheRealBillCipher334]

Jafar Batman Hulk Deadpool Superman

[@scottyp1722]

Palpatine conquered and entire galaxy, Sauron failed to conquer a continent, and Voldemort couldn't conquer a school. Not much of a fight if you look at it that way.

[@Mimic_45]

Ghost Rider (film version) VS Dracula (Renfield) Two supernatural beings portrayed by Nicolas Cage. Who would win?

[@HONCHO_3]

GR no diff, nothing can withstand that hellfire unless you are a hell lord like GR

[@Soldout360]

@@HONCHO_3 or the perence stare

[@Mimic_45]

​@@HONCHO_3Well, Dracula might be able to avoid Ghost Rider's hellfire attacks by turning into mist... Then again, Ghost Rider managed to burn a guy made of wind...

[@josephbarone239]

​@@Soldout360 Dracula has no soul

[@asingh4025]

depends which incarnation of dracula ... but id still give the win to ghost rider

[@anthonyeder8360]

Great video 100% correct. Zarkon would eat Darth Sidious as an appetizer.

[@barrywhitney1881]

Palpidin would wipe the floor with both of them.They even together they couldn't stand a chance against paladin.And yeah that's pretty much my thoughts

[@Boricua_User146]

0 views and 9 likes in 1 minute? Bro fell off.

[@Bezerk_08]

Heyyyy ya many likes many thanks

[@grinampwns]

From these three universes I like LOTR the most. However, Palpatine seems more powerful than Sauron and Voldemort.

[@Melkorsolostheverse]

cap Palpatine is fodder to Sauron

[@grinampwns]

@@Melkorsolostheverse Ty for your opinion mr. "random from the internet". Feel free to fortify it with arguments.

[@mannyperalta1064]

​@@grinampwns Basically what he means is sauron is a literal God and immortal and the only way for him to die is if eru Iluvitar pulled strings for the ring to be destroyed

[@grinampwns]

@@mannyperalta1064 > Palpatine using the force to find the ring. > Palpatine finds the ring. > Palpatine forcepulls the ring. > Palpatine forcescreams and vanishes to the shadows. > Palpatine uses his Imperial spaceship to fly to Mount Doom. > Palpatine throws the ring into it.

[@sharpspoon7371]

Legends Palpatine for sure, Sauron wipes Canon Palpatine