GM gives them this level of access because I think they see kindred spirits with the guys behind SG. This is the best car content on KZbin.
@lukewalker1051Ай бұрын
Kindred spirits...lol. More like, free marketing. It is very hard to sell a $200K vehicle in a bad economy.
@Tharley87Ай бұрын
@ with all due respect, GM could select much larger KZbin channels for this, channels that would provide much more “free advertising”. They gave SG this level of early access on the Z06 as well because I think they appreciate someone that wants to get this far into the engineering aspect of the car. They have now done the same with ZR1. They gave Jay the first drive on Stingray and I believe Z as well. Jay got them the most free advertising.
@INFINITYLI97Ай бұрын
More importantly, most of the corvette engineers watches SG 😂
@entertained...Ай бұрын
@@Tharley87 eh, don't waste your time on people who aren't smart. free marketing...sweet jesus.
@LionsheartificationАй бұрын
It is free marketing what are you guys talking about? They aren't giving them access out of the goodness of their hearts 😂
@notfunny3397Ай бұрын
I think the Lucid and GM engineers really like this channel, its nice to have people appreciate the work put into these cars. Im not really a fan of the styling but the engines on these Corvettes are just so cool.
@Name-kd5jjАй бұрын
You're not a fan of the styling? Thems is fightin' words boi.
@afb2Ай бұрын
This ZR1 content is truly on another stratosphere. No one deserves early access more than you guys. I'm a lifetime subscriber.
@RenovationsandRepairАй бұрын
Hands down the best car channel available online or on TV! Well done guys.
@yungrichnbroke5199Ай бұрын
Ever!
@Dcarr2014Ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic deep dive. Huge respect to GM and the Corvette Team for this access as well. Wish more companies would do this.
@dannoyes4493Ай бұрын
Fantastic. Thanks to Chevy for the access. And of course, thanks to SavageGeese for absolutely unmatched content. Well Done.
@motoguy3574Ай бұрын
Some rich people are going to have a blast.
@brownwhale5518Ай бұрын
a person can have a blast in most any car
@vitor_fgАй бұрын
@@brownwhale5518definitely not
@brownwhale5518Ай бұрын
@@vitor_fg back in high school (graduated in ‘84) I had a blast in my 1972 4 door POS Plymouth Satellite. I won’t say how I was having a blast.
@hashbrown4278Ай бұрын
@@brownwhale5518true
@kilianconn5091Ай бұрын
Until they become a tree ornament or a telephone pole pretzel.
@HarryPetropoulosАй бұрын
Thank you GM for being a breath of fresh air with these no longer cad company car companies. You could explain the history i know and love of other companies but frankly…. So many companies now are gatekeeping their exotics but GM and their wonderful CEO know that it’s all about drive and passion. Bravo GM. God Bless you.
@michelhadidАй бұрын
Really appreciate this video, guys. Amazing engineering went into this engine.
@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gmАй бұрын
This just inspired me to sign up for a track day in my 3,000$ Hyundai.
@manwhoneversleepsАй бұрын
hell yeah!
@sofakingcrazy1Ай бұрын
$3,000 2000 Tiburon?
@davidg3944Ай бұрын
Too late, your car's been stolen!
@americanAlienBoyАй бұрын
Cool! Driving a slow car fast is a reward in itself. One of my favorite days as an instructor was in the right hand seat of a bone stock Mazda Protege. The driver was a novice, but a fast learner. Much faster than her husband.
@richmahoney4637Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ericquinn8578Ай бұрын
It’s beautiful to see all the love, pride & creativity that went into this. It’s amazing what engineers and designers are capable of when they’re given the freedom and support to do what they’re meant to do. Imagine if every car company treated every project with a similar attitude as this…
@vladpootin5973Ай бұрын
The eighth generation of the Corvette has been the proverbial gift that keeps on giving. Kudos to the Americans, all hands down and hats off, a real world beater and dominator with the C8 👍🏻
@johnsmith741Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Wafflelover344Ай бұрын
Guys as a long time viewer lemme just say congratulations 🎉 You've come a long way from "couldn't get a sample" to walk arounds of unreleased cars. Kudos you guys earned it
@seanmachan6551Ай бұрын
Out of any Automotive Journalists out there I'm so glad they let you guys take a look at this car before production. Because of this, I've actually learned about the car, and as an extremely nice bonus the whole thing is presented beautifully. (Talking about both videos)
@Zath88Ай бұрын
Still cant believe there are people out there (mostly lead poisoned boomers) that still think this isn’t a “real corvette”. The level of craftsmanship and engineering that went into not only this ZR1 but this whole C8 generation is just next level. Hats off to GM for making this THEE Corvette
@RSProduction18Ай бұрын
Real corvettes have a manual transmission. This is a chick car.
@VortexVibe634Ай бұрын
Funny enough most people I know hating on the C8 for not being a true Corvette are young guys
@derekortiz3663Ай бұрын
@@VortexVibe634mostly the ones that can't afford them. The "car guy" title has officially been coopted by arguing tweens that will make their life about getting a 2 jz or crappy BMW. Those dudes argue with them.
@TheBajaminАй бұрын
You gotta let the boomer thing go bro. The absolute youngest boomers are in their 60s. Most are dead.
@slashnagy6Ай бұрын
@@derekortiz3663nothing wrong with bimmers or JDM. If everything was the same, there would be no car culture/“car guys.” Variety is the spice of life.
@obsidian....Ай бұрын
You're killing it with these videos. Thank you both (and thank you to GM for providing the engineers, designers etc for these shoots 🙏).
@spdcrzyАй бұрын
This is a hundred MORE horsepower than what the hypercar Agera R, for reference, did on pump gas ten years ago. And it cost two million dollars. On E85, this engine is probably capable of well in excess of 1200 horsepower at MINIMUM.
@2010ngojoАй бұрын
Super low production, probably hand crafted and assembled car vs this? Yeah I'm not surprised production costs are vastly different. While the production number probably won't hit over 10k, maybe 15k max, the zr1 benefits from building off the C8 platform. And they sold relatively a lot of C8 corvettes.
@kevinnickensАй бұрын
The depth of this video is so good. SG knows exactly the kind of car enthusiast their audience are, and nowhere else on YT can we get this amazing content.
@markblaney1428Ай бұрын
Savage Geese is my favorite auto content providers. Always informative and professional. Thanks
@nberkelАй бұрын
Watched the long format overview from last week, but still totally dug this engine deep dive 👍🏼
@bcab7955Ай бұрын
Wow, 76mm turbos on a production vehicle is nuts!
@R8andGT3FanАй бұрын
Great content! The guy seems to be proud of the LT7 and it's always nice to hear people who knows their stuff! 😃
@GautamAtriАй бұрын
One of the best Car content channel .. Great Work guys
@emmalab02Ай бұрын
Thanks for the shorter engineering nerd out. I saved the longer video when it was published, but haven’t had the time to watch it. I will watch it on my next plane trip.
@GOINFINITIАй бұрын
What an insane machine - I would love to own one one day
@tattooed1979Ай бұрын
Wish I would have stayed in PBC to build a few of these! Have my name on quite a few Z06 engines, but the Zr1 is a work of art.
@johnbinder6988Ай бұрын
SG doing the Lord's work
@_Makanko_24 күн бұрын
very nice deep dive on the engine
@ObserverificationАй бұрын
Thank you for giving these guys the attention they deserve 😊
@rondail5675Ай бұрын
Amazing engine. Well done GM Engine Team.
@10caterhamАй бұрын
Absolutely beautiful manufacturing work from GM on this engine. Wow
@jamesross824Ай бұрын
How much do you think the cost of just the engine is?
@WindyCity1992Ай бұрын
Nobody really knows. They say the C8 cost 6.8 billion to develop over the last 10+ years or so. Who knows
@xtnuser5338Ай бұрын
@@jamesross824 Do you mean like hypothetically if it was a production crate engine available for purchase? I'll bet it would be in the $80K range give or take. But if you mean the initial costs to develop it and all the tooling for productions and everything...I couldn't even guess. Well, okay, I can make a completely uneducated guess. $250MM?
@TheDominic16127 күн бұрын
look at the engine as a work of art
@andrewsbbqАй бұрын
The corvette team must be so fuckin proud of the work they do and their accomplishments.
@thethinbluelineZ06Ай бұрын
Colorful words are coming out of my mouth right now while watching the video 😂
@randyrainier9670Ай бұрын
Good work on this guys.
@GrahammdYTАй бұрын
Watched the 50 min one plus this one twice!! 😉
@tt10ttАй бұрын
GM, Honda, BMW and Porsche are engine builders. They sell in mass and they do it well. These are the fantastic 4 that Savage Geese focus on and enjoy to discuss because they have a better engineering culture then other manufactures.
@VS666Ай бұрын
thank you again for the technical aspects of these extremely well produced reviews. love the tech and engineering a little more than driving because knowledge is free ;)
@davevan9150Ай бұрын
I always have time for your long form videos.
@99-ZuluАй бұрын
Did they ever give a reason why they are running two mono scroll turbos instead of two twin scroll turbos? If they are wanting to reduce lag wouldn't the dual twin scroll turbos be able to further reduce turbo lag?
@geerstyresoil3136Ай бұрын
I remember reading since they are running electric wastegates they can utilize programming anti-lag system is designed to reduce turbo lag by maintaining turbocharger spool during rapid throttle changes. This is achieved by keeping the turbine spinning even when the throttle is lifted, ensuring quick boost recovery. It adapts to driving style, optimizing power delivery in high-performance scenarios. While specifics for the ZR1 aren't fully detailed, typical anti-lag systems use strategies like ignition timing retardation or bypass air flow to keep the turbos active without creating significant stress on the engine.
@99-ZuluАй бұрын
@geerstyresoil3136 I see I knew there was an anti lag system installed. I just figured utilizing a dual twin scroll setup would be more beneficial than the dual mono scroll setup that they are using. Mostly knew to the turbocharged world. Been mostly driving na engines for most of my life so I just figured using the twin scroll would have been a better option.
@phillyphil1513Ай бұрын
yes it does seem strange, but i think the problem with Twin Scroll is ultimately on the top end (since TS is an optimization for low end response on the street). at the top end (like when you're going for a rating of 1064hp) Twin Scroll acts a restriction, which is why you generally don't see it used in Motorsports and Racing (think Drift, Lemans, F1, etc) where the whole point is to spend as much time as possible at WOT. it's very similar then to the idea of fitting a Close Ratio Transmission where you optimize gears 3, 4, 5, 6 and ignore 1st and 2nd, because ideally 1st and 2nd are only used at the start of the race, and never engaged again until after the checkers.
@chbrulesАй бұрын
I'm so glad you guys get this sort of access. I really appreciate your technical insight and interviews with these people more than any other channel. Other channels will gloss over these details reading a script with lists of specs. You guys talk about those details, and I love that so much more!
@anthonye1028Ай бұрын
🥂
@appearnowappearlaterАй бұрын
This thing is unreal. Excuse me while I cry and imagine this as the engine introduced in the 2nd gen NSX
@pvtcmyers87Ай бұрын
Friggen insane! Love it!
@raymondhumphrey2749Ай бұрын
Just (WOW)!!! I Do Hope n Pray that I Am able to Experience This Car🙏...
@jaybee3165Ай бұрын
SWEET machine. I hope GM never goes away. the corvette is pure american beauty, every inch. sure, mclaren, ferrari & Lambo can make beautiful, fast, well handling track cars too... but GM does it at 1/4th the price and no $5000 oil changes or $20k fuel cell changes. what a sweet running car.
@CarsandBikes27 күн бұрын
WOW. CNC heads. Are the pistons partial skirt for reduced mass? Anyone know what the oil consumption is like for either engines?
@JJVgamingАй бұрын
In the transmission section of the video, Dustin mentions the transmission possesses the same gear ratios as the Z06.. I wonder if the overwhelming power advantage / low end torque of the Zr1 will negate the long 5th gear issue the Z06 had at the Nürburgring
@GadgetyMVАй бұрын
In the Chevrolet Pressrom it says the engine output is 1064hp/873 kW at 7000 rpm. Except, 1 kW is 1.34 hp, so that would mean 1170 hp. Conversely, 1064hp, where one hp equals 0.7457 kW, would mean 793.4 kW. Either way, one number stated is wrong. It could be a typo...
@raki31Ай бұрын
air-to-water intercoolers in a factory fresh vehicle is devious work
@floodo1Ай бұрын
Edge Blue intake manifold, very good looking indeed
@peopleschampgarage7869Ай бұрын
CNC factory heads is baller 🚀
@chrisgeorge84Ай бұрын
When it comes to internals what stops company’s from making the older version more “beefed up” when talking about the pins and connecting rod?
@_Makanko_24 күн бұрын
tooling and production cost vs pay-off?
@suzakukururugi6613Ай бұрын
What a beast of a car. 😮
@timthewhiskynut477Ай бұрын
Who's going to be first to drive one on camera? Most likely Jay Leno... But we're looking forward to the video from you guys more!
@G2MericaАй бұрын
Hit like before I needed to hear the facts. Love your way of talking to the engineers. Love the geek out
@nateisrightАй бұрын
Turbo speed sensor? I wonder what the engine management program does with the information since turbos spin up with exhaust pressure. Compare first and second derivative, see that max turbo RPM is approaching and then what? Variable vanes? Close the throttle? Does it intervene a lot? Would like to know more.
@customurlgoeshereАй бұрын
Open the wastegates?
@nateisrightАй бұрын
@ which releases boost pressure but doesn’t necessarily slow the turbine.
@skip741x3Ай бұрын
I want to see how one of these reviews once you guys get ur hands on one for a street and track drive!
@KevinPrittsАй бұрын
This 🔥🔥🔥 content and car 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@NorthernChevАй бұрын
LOOK at those PISTONS!
@Redmongoose-rdmАй бұрын
Do one for aero and chassis next
@jaekimchiАй бұрын
You can just feel how excited the GM engineers are about not being held back by pushrods and being able to finally design a modern DOHC engine without financial bean counters from telling them no. Awesome job with the LT6 and LT7.
@nuts5388Ай бұрын
Can he explain why they messed up the gear ratios past 4 so bad on the z06?
@TheDCJasonАй бұрын
Thank you for this more streamline summary. I don't always have time to watch an hour video. I'd love to see more bite size videos of large topics like this in the future.
@Hoodie2103Ай бұрын
Although I don’t mind the hour long videos. Must’ve seen Alex’s livestream lol. AMRY
@Tiger-pu4oz26 күн бұрын
Amazing sports car!
@Edison73100Ай бұрын
What is the Ring time?
@AndrewJacobson-cq2omАй бұрын
Every car should have this motor!!!🤪🤪
@willneverstopАй бұрын
Great stuff
@boy638Ай бұрын
Geeky deep dives are the best
@TML34Ай бұрын
Why not do external wastegates? Much better turbo selection, if you could make the packaging work.
@tman2damaxАй бұрын
The teams that work on all the GM performance products seem like the most chill and unconstrained people in the auto industry. All your videos with Corvette/Camaro/Blackwing engineers just sound like people running a mom-and-pop tuning shop rather than working for one of the largest automakers in the world.
@ForzaNewbieАй бұрын
Holy shit does heads look insane...
@dylan4972Ай бұрын
Wish I could afford this car!
@PlayinWithMahWiiАй бұрын
Glad to see this up close & personal look at the LT7! I love the in-depth conversation of engineering details. Thank you SavageGeese & thanks Corvette team!
@vacuumnerdsАй бұрын
Can I swap this engine into my Hoover?
@brianroberts5958Ай бұрын
wow, the combustion chamber CNC... truly "jewelry". This car will be worth the price.
@clubracer6Ай бұрын
Need this in my CT4v bw!
@gusgieselАй бұрын
0:28 Why do all these ZR1 engines say LT7? Has it always been that way?
@SoCalFreelanceАй бұрын
I would imagine a C8 refresh of the entire line is due for 2026 year models.
@machdaddy6451Ай бұрын
I bet that the engineers had a good laugh as we tried to speculate on what the engine for the ZR1 was going to be. Most of where way off on the power and flat plane vs cross plane crankshaft.
@ViagesАй бұрын
For those thinking having a Degree ( Engineering) its not worth in 2024 , show them this video. Good job Colleagues👊🏻
@gettcoupedАй бұрын
All these internal parts are turning the gear head in me on!
@glennwalker2996Ай бұрын
As jay lenno says if you want a track car to drive to track and home again its corvette or porche! 2 most reliable track cars! 😊
@bwatt1383Ай бұрын
Something id ask a Chevy engineer is if there was any similarities with the v8tt Blackwing engine
@jondiaz3475Ай бұрын
They always claim there isn't any similarity, but surely lessons were learned.
@mcspikeskyАй бұрын
So what you're saying is, it's just two turbo 4 bangers?
@meanman6992Ай бұрын
Said it in the last video and I’ll say it in this one too, having driven the new AWD BMW M4, I don’t think most people understand the insane level of performance this ZR1 Vett is going to have.
@chaff513 күн бұрын
So they designed the LT7 and then stripped off some parts for the LT6. That's actually fantastic.
@bmx687Ай бұрын
Be cool to have a Ferrari 488/f8 engine breakdown. GM admitted to reverse engineering the 458 engine...I wonder if it stopped at the NA engine from ferrari
@Catuyn17Ай бұрын
Good move separating these longer docu-style videos into parts. Hitting these key interest areas into more digestible snips is going to help get the eyes who care on the right content for them. I, of course, will be watching all of them anyway.
@grantconway2664Ай бұрын
It's crazy how small that engine is compared to my AMG M157.
@gregwiese1697Ай бұрын
ZR1 Waite list 1 year ago / 1st place @ MSRP -3 year Waite list Z06 @ MSRP Rapid Blue, Silver Stripes, Transparent top
@TimClark09Ай бұрын
Absolute insanity. Then, you think of the price vs the few cars that could compete with the vehicle GM is dropping this engine into and it shows that GM is changing everything in the performance space with this engine/car.
@markrozenberg7959Ай бұрын
I wonder if the folks at Porsche and Ferrari are watching this video- and what they think.
@AJ56Ай бұрын
They’ll never have the class of the engineers that gave SG so much of their time and early access to the ZR1.
@johnsullivan8673Ай бұрын
@@AJ56 it’s like you never saw the SG porsche deep dives, lol.
@AJ56Ай бұрын
@@johnsullivan8673 I didn’t, but now I will.
@km6832Ай бұрын
Nothing, gm bought ferraris and porsches to bench mark to engineer this car
@WindyCity1992Ай бұрын
Porsche has used GM magnaride tech for the 2009 GT3 motor mounts. Ferrari uses GM magnaride suspension system. Has been since 2006 or so
@The_Noticer.Ай бұрын
Do they also use the port injection to lessen carbon build-up?
@3IS2URАй бұрын
Yes, it's port and direct injection not a new tech but that's the cure for carbon build-up Toyota been using it since early 2000
@DisturbedBurgerАй бұрын
GM should try a hot-v next
@phillyphil1513Ай бұрын
unfortunately no, many don't realize how HEAVY turbo assemblies can be (before you even add the weight of an integrated manifold) so i bet the reason they positioned them where they did was to additionally address WEIGHT OPTIMIZATION and keep a low CoG. "BRILLIANT...!!!" (2 old guys drinking Guinness voice) yeah that's how i'd do it, so GM Engineers "didn't miss a trick" with the LT7.
@DisturbedBurgerАй бұрын
@phillyphil1513 with a hot-v I'd think weight would be saved? One of the advantages to a hot-v is less tubing and shorter distance from turbo to intercooler to intake valve 🤔
@mstSeanАй бұрын
Can't wait for your guys drive video of this. Jack is going to go full silverback on this thing. Going to need a few extra sets of tires.
@AdmajorsАй бұрын
It's really wonderful to see this content, by engineers and enthusiasts FOR engineers and enthusiasts, packaged with great production quality.
@TothefloorАй бұрын
Zora will be the car to have for overall performance. Old school people will prefer the Zr1 though so that's cool. The ZR1's 1000hp and 2wd is just a recipe for ZERO traction. It won't even come close to competing to other 1000hp cars with AWD in a straight line and on the back roads as well. No AWD pull out of the corners. I bet the 60-130 times will be only mid 5's where a Plaid is mid 4's. Apples to Oranges though I know.