Viewers Choose Worst Trends in Modern Cars and Trucks | PT2

[@rockford2523]

My biggest complaint is car reviewers that test only top end models.

[@bwest-yq3uc]

Test the one that the average joe will buy. Top of the line trim is way too expensive for what you are getting.

[@fourtysix4646]

I want base models, I only care about reliability and the engine and transmission in the car. I also prefer cars without sunroofs as they almost all eventually leak.

[@LordPrometheous]

@@fourtysix4646 What cars have you had (and at what age) did they leak? I've never had a single leaking sunroof. The only car I've ever had that had any water leaking in was a 1988 Buick Regal, when it was around 15 years old, I believe. It needed new seals around the doors---it didn't have a sun roof. But of all my 5 cars with sunroofs never had leaks, and I've never even owned a new (or relatively new) car.

[@fourtysix4646]

SuperN0va In the early 2000’s I had a Grand Prix gtp and the sunroof leaked within the first few years, since then I haven’t bought a car with a sun roof but more recently I had a friend purchase a 2015 or 2016 f-150 and his sunroof leaked within the first year of being bought brand new. Confirmed my idea that sunroofs are more of a liability then a necessity. For a weekend car you only drive once or twice a week I’m not super opposed to a sunroof as most nicer cars are hard to find without one these days and that weekend car is always parked in my garage. For the daily commuter especially in the rust belt where it’s driveway or parking lot parked and snowed and rained on all day and night for a majority of the year, I don’t want a sunroof. For the daily commuter I want it to be as reliable as possible, the less options it has the less there is to break. For that car I would even take crank windows and stick adjustable mirrors if I had my pick, preferably with a port injected engine and either a manual or normal auto transmission, none of that cvt junk. Vehicles serve purposes and that’s how it should be. Get the reliable fuel efficient commuter car, the work truck (without a sunroof) and if lucky the sports car that can be all optioned out of that’s what you want. Tired of them mashing everything together in packages. Let us pick what we want or don’t be surprised when I buy a brand of car that allows me to do that or has what I want.

[@LordPrometheous]

@@fourtysix4646 That makes sense. Our cars have always been garage kept, and when I did go to the office, my cars were in a covered multi-level garage. When working at home for a decade, of course cars were in the garage (wife is a homemaker). I suppose excessive outside exposure to the elements may cause seals to shrink, in addition to maybe quality control issues.

[@MrNemo721]

Fake exhaust tips, fake engine sounds, unnecessarily complicated shifters, No volume or tuning knobs, trying to make every sedan into a 4 door coupe style, chrome anything anywhere.

[@RCmaniac667]

That was in the firs part

[@pulledofftheroad]

Boomers just can’t stop putting chrome everywhere

[@drew7223]

The gear changing knob. That kills me.

[@cloudforest4087]

True that. It seems the auto industry took a big dump on consumers. They better make it right. No more fake anything!

[@mar2ky]

Do you mean bmw? They have them all in one lol!

[@mqbitsko25]

Big wheels + low profile tires!!! 1. Expensive tires. 2. Wheel damage. 3. Rough ride. 4. Noisy. 5. Poor fuel economy if the tires are wider than necessary. All that in exchange for fashion, and a POTENTIAL increase in cornering ability (assuming the suspension is set up that way) that is only meaningful on the track. Absolutely my #1 pet peeve. Even trucks and SUVs that pretend to be "off-road vehicles" suffer from this. The last thing you want in a rock crawler is "flat" tires.

[@LGaragem]

Thanks. I couldn't say it better!

[@mudza92]

I couldnt disagree more. Nothing more disgusting than fat tires with small wheels and big gap between tyres and wheel arch. I find beauty in golden middle. not too big and not too low profile, but close enough so the car doesnt look like go cart

[@camofpv]

mudza92 I’ve found the gap in my car a bit odd. 225/45 on 17”. But instead of stepping up to 18” as most people do I’ve changed the profile of the tire to 225/50. The gap is gone the ride is nicer and no noticeable difference in handling. Win win

[@aaronhumphrey2009]

Up North,in pothole country, low profile tires get popped routinely, give a harsh ride over the asphalt trails to the urban concrete jungles. Run- flats are harsh riding,too.

[@Mavis308]

My car has steel rims with 215/60/16 tires. Steel rims and tires are cheaper to replace than alloys and low profile tires.

[@gustavoguti27]

Touchscreens that you can't use without looking at it. Dangerous for driving and annoying lights

[@15JoeKing]

Mazda Commander Knob 👌

[@lisamuel41]

Tesla left chat

[@bigstuntnsp]

My 08 cadillac cts has option to close it and, act like a traditional stereo after. Just on hot days it makes a squeaky noise the 1st, and sometimes 2nd time it goes in or, out.

[@ryans413]

Or where all the controls are forced into the touch screen. All I want is some heat but I got to navigate through like five menus to turn up the heat. I sold that car and got a more basic car like much more basic where the heats actually controlled with it’s own knob. Way more simple and way more practical

[@markwing05]

I wished you could at least turn it off. Sometimes even at night with the brightness settings on the lowest it's still too bright

[@marvvang5758]

Basically the overuse of electronics to replace mechanical components that didn't need it. Battery goes out, well you're screwed.

[@NeoNoggie]

If your battery went out in a 1996 civic you were still screwed, that hasn't really changed. Most keyless entry cars have an actual key to the doors hidden in the fob if their owners cared to look.

[@NeoNoggie]

​@fukthegoog Not if it had an automatic transmission. You can still push start modern manuals, too, but they'll throw an error code you'll have to clear. My 2014 mazda 6 specifically has a thing in the manual that says that while bump starting the vehicle is possible, it should be avoided to keep from damaging emissions components.

[@hjs6102]

@fukthegoog The modern batteries are way better then the old ones. I used my original battery eleven years without any problem ever (Audi). Without electronic modern cars won't be able to reducepollution and to save the driver, passangers and other persons outside the cars. And you get mobility garantees. If your battery is dead, call them and get a free rental car.

[@shaggnar2014]

Yeah, how is an electronic parking brake supposed to work if the battery is out? Does it just roll down the hill? does it stay locked so the towntruck will have a hard time moving it?

[@hjs6102]

@@shaggnar2014 i am sure, you can activate it manually if you open the trunk...

[@electropunk42]

Cars that leave the reverse lights on after the driver parks the car and gets out.

[@eliamosafar]

GM looking at this comment and saying "uhmm we dont do that?"

[@sgtpepper6379]

So... GM garbage?

[@bcc5701]

And the god damn clueless driver who just stands there and stares while I’m waiting fir what I think is a spot opening up

[@grandreddithotel8059]

This is one of the dumbest feayures ever

[@crlaw75]

It's called exit lighting. You can have it turned off through the settings on the screen.

[@blar2112]

Cars are no longer cars, now they are home appliances that can move.

[@MacTechG4]

And with the increase in popularity of the electric car, they’re becoming laptops you can drive around in, no thanks, I don’t want a wheeled computer, give me a simple engine, steering, good suspension and a MANUAL TRANSMISSION!

[@ryans413]

They are homes on wheels now it’s gotten out of control like how long are most people in there cars a day maybe for 20 minutes max and maybe 5 hours for road trips do we need to have cars with all this crap that just distracts everyone from actually driving.

[@ryans413]

MacTechG4 I drive auto but I still agree with you my car so dam basic but I love it.

[@runningfromabear8354]

@@MacTechG4 I'm with you on the manual transmission. I grew up in Europe. I haven't bought a new car in years. I just wanted a family car with a manual transmission. They don't exist, you have to buy used over here. When we go home, all of the rental family cars come in manual. If you want automatic, you have to pay extra and make sure you reserve it because they'll have to make a special order. I'm very uncomfortable with automatic.

[@Zestyclose-Big3127]

Model T: Am I a joke to you?

[@jtm198]

When I mentally list the things that annoy me, I realize I just need to buy a motorcycle.

[@uvuvwevwevweossaswithglasses]

Well, have you done it in last 2 yrs? :D

[@vadim6385]

The small turbocharged engine + dual clutch transmission combination. Means you can throw the car away after 3-4 years.

[@barongogenzoler4300]

Funny thing is that nowadays big turbo engine + hydro trans means you need to throw car away in 5 years and DCT and small turbo engines hold relatively good.

[@01lexus]

Worst and most annoying trends is replacing hard buttons and knobs with annoying needlessly complicated touchscreen menu's and functions and replacing 6 and 8 cylinders with little turbo 4 cylinders.

[@cloudforest4087]

I have no need for a touchscreen in a car. Period.

[@phant0]

Touchscreens are downright dangerous in a car. You can touch and feel a button or knob and use it without looking away from the road. With touchscreens however you have to look down to see the button you want to hit. And you have to keep looking after you hit it to see if it recorded your input, since there is no tactile feedback.

[@livefreeordiehard8898]

Absolutely agree. Especially some stupid car only let you control AC over a touch screen. What a retarded idea.

[@user-gs9yj2io3c]

Yes, there is no replacement for displacement

[@Patchuchan]

@@phant0 Touch screen control for things like the AC need to be banned as it causes accidents.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

The problem is these auto manufacturers start adding these useless/unnecessary features, and we (the consumer) buy them. That shows them that they must be doing a great job with what they're doing, so they'll keep doing it. The other auto manufacturers will copy their fellow competitors. That's how this spirals down into a crap show.

[@slappy8941]

They never ask the consumers what we want.

[@FallenDevil5150]

the consumers, especially american market, almost have no choice but to buy the gimmicky tat they put in cars. I want to by my mother a simple car that is mechanically sound and isnt reliant on any tech becuase i know she will be unable to learn it and end up breaking most of it.

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

Not true as all that stuff is packaged with all the other must haves or they are on the base model of the cars we want

[@santibanez91]

I agree with you 100%, we live in capitalist society. You vote with your wallet. This whole thing is just like manuals, ppl cry and complain about it but they never buy new manual cars or the people that complain about the American economic and all they buy is foreign cars.

[@polaris911]

True, but it's hard to NOT buy those features when it's a package deal.

[@tolrem]

"There's nothing so simple that it can't be made more complicated". [Henry Ford]

[@johnstout2435]

One major problem I have with modern cars are people driving at night with headlights off. The problem is today’s new cars keep the instruments panel backlights on all the time now and the idiot driver doesn’t look for the little headlight icon on their dash panel.

[@cpufreak101]

Yep, I see them a lot where I'm at. And at times you have to wonder "how can they even see anything?"

[@nicholascowan1731]

also the headlights in new cars are worse for your eyes

[@awacs337]

i just saw a car last night with only their DRLs on

[@moeanthony9308]

@@nicholascowan1731 Worse for the wallet too. Wait till you have to change the whole lense instead of bulb.

[@Bobbybeb]

Most cars have automatic headlights. I still don't understand how someone can mess up something that's automatic but here we are....

[@daniyalbharmal5113]

I might be alone on this one but I hate digital gauges

[@micahhill4786]

Daniyal Bharmal I hate them too I like them for air and fuel ratios gauges and boost gauges but that’s it tachometer analog speedometer analog everything else should be analog

[@soumaknandi9218]

In volvos you can alter the brightness so I keep it close to minimum. It's actually really good, like a Kindle

[@fatboy19831]

Many of the new units are beautiful. I love them. God help us all when they fail just out of warranty.

[@christianrasmussen6739]

many of these digital gauges we have today is probably outdated in 10-15 years and that's why manufacturers like Bugatti still have analog and no fancy screen's, fake materials and stof like that. It even get's worse when it's a digital gauge with a needle instead of making a real gauge with a needle, if they want to hide it when the car is off the can hide it behind dark glass

[@dominicancheif117]

No I absolutely despise them. It looks like they stuck on an iPad, and it looks very cheap imo. A perfect example is the Mercedes s class

[@politicaljunkie4ever]

Overly sensitive one touch automatic windows. Drives me crazy.

[@retrogreene]

@John Sabp ha my window only goes down automatically

[@mattkase6644]

Absolutely. No issue with automatic windows overall, but the detent on the switch needs to be much more pronounced then most automakers provide.

[@Erix7810]

Bingo. I am so tired of this.

[@gavmillz8285]

It all boils down to the fact that the more things you add to a car, the more likely it is to fail.

[@PartyUpLive]

That's why I avoid all the unnecessary toys and extra. Especially if it's tech.

[@evacody1249]

It's more likely to fail if you don't do maintenance when needed.

[@reed7562]

Delain124 Nobody wants to keep fixing a piece of shit.

[@garyvallone5393]

exactly right

[@garyvallone5393]

I Love the subtle jokes and humor! Awesome videos man keep it up!

[@laxen122]

Fake exhausts, makes me puke

[@Snake-ms7sj]

Didn't know they made fake exhausts. Looks so J.C. Whitney. Alo 99.9% or todays "dual exhaust" is phony. A single pipe comes off the engine and then splits into 2 mufflers and exhaust tips. That's not a true dual exhaust.

[@sansfreedom1629]

@@Snake-ms7sj I think he's referring to the electronic engine noises but I'm not sure. Never heard of a fake exhaust

[@Snake-ms7sj]

@@sansfreedom1629 No, really, some cars have fake exhaust tips. Check out his review of a Toyota Corolla hatchback: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJSzpI2Og8umZtk Pause it at 11:48 and you can see the rear under body and you can see that the exhaust pipe is a single pipe pointing towards the ground. And then you can see the phony dual exhaust tips that are totally fake with no exhaust pipes attached to them. Lame.

[@floriskuipers4925]

Lots of new cars (especially crossovers) have chrome rectangles on the rear bumper to imitate a big exhaust, often you can even see see a cheap plastic cover plate in the middle of them.

[@TheCycledude37]

What about fake exhuast noise

[@spotifyseascapessmoothjazz]

2007-2013 is a good era of economy cars. Dashboards in these cars are mostly traditional and the engines & drivetrains are reasonably efficient without being overly complicated. It's going to suck when these cars become too old to buy if new car design doesn't simplify and abandon the gimmicks.

[@Robin-lj3vq]

German cars from the vag family is a nightmare from that era, be aware before buying one of those.

[@aaronhumphrey2009]

Agreed. Making cars unrepairable by the owners is another lousy trend. Keeps thier stealerships and parts manufactures busy, using brand- exclusive tools, and now most mechanics wouldn't know what to do without a code reader. Many won't even bother trying to repair older vehicles without a computer readout plug-in. Do you Know what happens when design obsolescence is used to sell new cars ? People like myself won't buy new, even if we have the money. Between instant depreciation, unrepairable designs, expensive styling errors ( the fancy front grill IS the Fender ! Any impact at any speed will damage it and cost thousands. Or the exposed rear tires on CR-V, rav-4, insure that Any rear impact will also cost thousands,and shower the occupants with broken glass ) simply not interested in new cars. They're not 100% better than the old ones. So why does a loaded pick-up truck cost $50,000+ ?

[@ryans413]

My 04 Grand Am cheap car but it’s so basic and I love it for that. Engine Trans still good nothing really complicated on it it’s simple car

[@The11devans]

A lot of late 90s cars are good in these categories as well, but you give up modern safety advancements by going that old

[@sgtpepper6379]

@@The11devans and they all have 250k

[@lander77477]

2 aspects that wern't covered in my opinion. I hate controlling things in a car through a touch screen, i like physical controls. On a car from the 90s, i could just reach my hand over without looking and adjust the radio volume, station or A/C power and temperature, now you have to look at what your doing and touch a screen and navigate. 2nd, cars from the 90s with cloth seats all had this nice soft velvet like material, now cloth seats in cars are really rough and feel like sandpaper

[@dasstackenblochen9250]

It's funny how in cheaper / low end cars things are easier, quicker and safer (less distraction) to control than in more expensive car. E.g. in the VW up the radio controls are so close to your right hand, they're basically just as good as buttons on the wheel itself.

[@davidszakacs6888]

I agree about the HVAC controls. The old cable system was better.

[@AndirHon]

I personally hate how the touchscreen happens to be the same screen that's on your dash so you have to reach forward and take your eyes and hands off the driving part of your trip to use them. I like having the screen with the info higher, but I like interacting with it via the wheel or buttons on the center console/steering wheel

[@danielosipov8596]

The Jeep Grand Cherokee or Jaguar F-Pace have the right idea with the screen and buttons thing

[@Azeria]

Wasn’t that covered in the original video?

[@scottg391]

Call me old fashioned but I think the mechanical and electrical aspect of auto technology peaked about 10 years ago. The electrics enhanced the mechanics, they were simple, tuneable and reliable. Today’s car is an expensive technical nightmare.

[@07wrxtr1]

Which is why I'll keep my 370z

[@cloudforest4087]

Makes me curious as to when the industry will peak again. We still need to see how modern cars hold off in the next decade or so.

[@practicalguy973]

I'd love to keep a reliable simple mechanical vehicle from 10-15 years ago but the major issue is fuel economy and safety. I want to keep my limbs and not get ejected from a vehicle in the event of an accident and fuel prices are always on the rise.

[@LrulestheworldM8]

Jose M. Molina Ocampo Most crossovers made in 2008 are off the road now, if that gives you any idea as to when these heaps will kick the bucket

[@visionist7]

More like 15 to 20 years ago

[@pod9363]

I love opening an old corolla 4AFE engine bay and seeing all the space and knowing what each part does. Makes you really friendly and confident with your car.

[@Dowlphin]

Combine that engine with a white car and the engine bay will always be clean from the tears of joy shed while working on it.

[@Eric_the_Hiking]

So now a Corolla will have an independent rear suspension and a Mazda 3 won't? That just feels wrong.

[@whatevernevermind5960]

erlebo the Corolla hatchback is gonna be what the Mazda 3 was (when the new 3 comes out)

[@jbx_98]

@@whatevernevermind5960 Not with that cvt it won't

[@whatevernevermind5960]

Based God they sell it with a 6 speed

[@elshiftsd7260]

@@jbx_98 why is drake ur profile pic ur not based

[@theejoeylee]

I bought my 8th gen civic over a corolla because i wanted 4 wheel independent suspension & 4 wheel disc brakes...and the HUGE sense of space in such a small car

[@unblessedcoffee1457]

The sad reality is the people watching this video have next to no control over the car market and its trends. Normal people who know nothing about cars, nor care about them just want a ride, drive these changes.

[@GoldenGrenadier]

fukthegoog yup it's true. Almost every time I see an SUV on the road, its a young woman peeking over the steering wheel. I get that a lot of women need something to haul kids around in but that's best accomplished by a station wagon. In fact, the majority of SUVs these days are just overgrown station wagons that handle like shit, get crap fuel economy, can't go off-roading, and only provide the illusion of being safer.

[@07wrxtr1]

It's because the manufacturers are now selling "safety" instead of driving dynamics, and ya know, we can just NEVER be safe enough, so lets just keep complicating things as much as possible. From my perspective, if the cars were simply more engaging/fun to drive, then people would be more into it, rather than just seeing it as a nuisance looking for a form of distraction while on the way to punching in on that 9-5 job. You also must address the mental health issues we have in this country: People are plugged in constantly to their phones that predominantly serve to sell fear/distraction, and now we have fear based consumerism combined with distracted driving, and we "wonder" why there's more crashes resulting in death, so, lets just buy bigger "safer" vehicles like SUV's / CUV's = safety arms race = higher cost/worse vehicles to drive. You know what: I love my 370z, yet, everyone (even Z owners) complain all day long about how it needs to be "more refined" etc. THEN, we look back: "I wish we had a Z that was more engaging to drive"

[@07wrxtr1]

Women, and "men" who grew up without fathers = fear/feeling based purchasing decisions.

[@moeanthony9308]

@@07wrxtr1 wow. All great points. Well said.

[@mdnaholi]

07wrxtr1 that statement make your 4 incher seem longer? You feel like a big man for throwing a tantrum?

[@Iconoclasher]

I had to get a replacement key/fob combination for a '13 Ford Fusion. $380. They only cost $3 to manufacture. Hard to believe a case of 100 fobs cost as much as the entire car!

[@danc1197]

Buy them on Amazon for $30. They dont have to be made by the car manufacturers. They all work and its good to buy a spare anyway.

[@paulhenner8914]

Try $ 700 for a Porsche

[@dx221000]

The problem with modern cars is that I get more excited about 99 Corolla than the newest Lincoln suv.

[@cpufreak101]

Sounds about right. I myself would be happier with a 90's Corolla instead of a new Mercedes.

[@moeanthony9308]

Well said

[@livefreeordiehard8898]

😂

[@wsguntoro3985]

The last 90esque car is 3rd gen mazda 2. It's fun, it has ok mileage

[@moeanthony9308]

@@wsguntoro3985 And still around Toyota Yaris aka Echo

[@Zatoichinisanyon]

I'd like to see the hated trends by decade, and what went away, what became common place, and what was hated but is now loved.

[@mattkase6644]

I think there were many that initially saw backup cameras as unnecessary and gimmicky tech when they first came out (myself included). But after having been exposed to them for the better part of a decade, I think most people likely appreciate having one now, even if they're in-car display implementation is not always perfect in many models.

[@rotgertesla]

@@mattkase6644 We only appreciate them now because we can no longer see anything around our car. Designs are so bad that blind spots are all over the place.

[@ameraldas3641]

@@mattkase6644 yeah, the backup camera in older cars is not needed, outside out vans/cars where you literally can not see behind you. nowdays you cant see out the back of a car, and backup cameras are neccesary

[@sack8439]

@@mattkase6644 I need a backup camera because where I park at home we have gravel and stones as our driveway and a 2 meter fall right behind my car. My side mirrors cant see how far away im from the edge so my only option right now is to open the car door and look out to see how far I am. Really looking for a more modern version of my audi a3 but with a backup camera but every used car of it has been bought without a backup camera.

[@chrismaynard6016]

Give me ROUND BUTTONS I can actually adjust blind while I am driving. I am 63 and much prefer rotary controls as they are in fact EASIER to use....have got some radio controls on the steering wheel but find it EASIER and QUICKER to reach across with my left hand (UK, we drive on the left) and adjust. Chris ENGLAND

[@nikpaul6280]

Terrible shame that rotating knobs are slowly disappearing. Those touchscreen/taptic knobs are bloody irritating.

[@jebbush8491]

Trust me, people in the OEMs get this. But it's the mainsteam consumer that thinks screens = high tech

[@W4NKER]

We drive on the right sorry just pointing out but we get your point :)

[@sammylam1649]

you're gonna be dead in a few years and there are most car buyers are the younger/middle-aged people so car manufacturers don't give a damn about what the you old people think. if there's a demand for high tech touch screen controls, then that's exactly what manufacturers will supply. you can either suck it up or go buy an older second hand car.

[@MuunNii]

@@sammylam1649 woah slow down your horses my man. 21 year old here, looking for height tech AND practicality, like most the people I know. Dont over assume, based on urself

[@BathSaltBadger]

In the U.S. "we must invent better driver less cars" in Russia, we already invented driver less cars, they're called 'Buses'

[@cpufreak101]

Lol, issue is for some unknown reason though people in the U.S. like to scream and cry that public transport is "anti-freedom" and "unamerican", so it only stays in the larger cities.

[@behindthen0thing]

@@cpufreak101 name one person who has said that

[@Luckingsworth]

@@cpufreak101 No, it's that I work one hour away from where I live and must drive there at 5am for my shift at 6am. No bus is ever going to run that route. This is true for 70% of Americans. Our country is as big as most other continents and unlike Russia we use nearly 100% of it.

[@cpufreak101]

@@behindthen0thing there's been quite a few people I've spoken to IRL that say it. So it could just be a local thing in fairness

[@cpufreak101]

@@Luckingsworth also a fair point

[@quietguy1948]

I went "simple", at least in todays world. I purchased a new 2018 Hyundai Elantra Value Edition. Naturally aspirated engine (averaging 40 mpg). 6 speed "regular" transmission. Buttons and switches that work and make sense. Relevant gauges and decent infotainment - screen is IN the dash, not plopped onto it. Finally, an incredible warranty.I love this thing...

[@LrulestheworldM8]

quietguy is it possible to order this car without any touchscreen at all? I hate touch screens as they are a massive distraction, and can install my own radio without any issues. Also, how much did the car run you, and did it come with unpainted bumpers?

[@Snake-ms7sj]

I went simple also. Bought a 2018 Ford Escape S (base model). 2.5L port fuel injected engine. No turbo. No direct injection. No start stop. No lane keeping assist. No blind spot monitoring. Regular automatic transmission with a torque converter. No CVT or DCT. No touch screen infotainment. Radio has Buttons and knobs. Gauges are analog, not digital. Has the hands free bluetooth (sync) phone feature, Cruise control,and a CD player. Even the Daytime running lights are old school. Uses the headlights but at a lower brightness. No LEDs to burn out. Has a USB port so I could plug in an MP3 player if I didn't want to use the CD player. Simple. Like driving a car from 10 years ago almost.

[@Mr10Alpine]

I'll throw in my hat. Korean-built 2018 Buick Encore FWD. 1.4 turbo with old-school port fuel injection. No start/stop, iron block/aluminum head. Still find it surprisingly simple to work on in today's world. 6 speed Hydramatic 6T40 auto with cable operated shifter. Granted it does have a touch screen, but it has a backup old school buttons and a single volume knob. Old-fashioned A/C-heat controls. Old-school head- and taillight bulbs, despite LED in front, and far easier to replace (no more removing bumpers 🤣😂). Analog gauges. Manual hatch with electric pushbutton release. No 'nannies' (i.e. lane assist, blind-spot) except for back-up camera, which I don't use (cheating 🤣) LOL. The best part-steel hood/bonnet.

[@quietguy1948]

Touchscreen only. Bumpers are painted.

[@TruthHasSpoken]

*GIANT CENTER CONSOLES AND REAR QUARTER PANELS WITH NO VISIBILITY* Nothing like GIANT center consoles, too wide and too tall, preventing the driver from moving their leg to the right when putting the car on cruise control. Driver is sitting in a coffin. AND - rear quarter panels with no visibility which prevent the driver from seeing cars in their blind spot. Do designers ever, ever drive their cars, especially off the test track, in traffic, and on a longer road trip? I believe that answer here is NO. No wonder Subaru keeps growing.

[@mrmaniac3]

TruthHasSpoken it's a terrible thing. Especially considering most cars on the consumer market are front wheel drive these days. And that rear quarter panel thing. I hate it just as much as you, but if there's a classic with low visibility in back, I'll stick my thumb out for it. Take most cars from the 20s, for instance. There's no place for me in the consumer market anyway.

[@wishandwatch]

absolutely hate the belt lines of modern car design. also the rooflines. and the pillars that get bigger and bigger every year. windows keep getting smaller and smaller. visibility is horrendous nowadays

[@rotgertesla]

Don't forget the front pillars blind spots! I can't see anything when I am engaging in a curve on the road.

[@CSkwirl]

None of these cars are going to work in 10 years, electronic nightmares...oh wait, that's the point, then they can sell you another one. I'll be sticking with my Prelude and CRV and Daihatsu Rocky, manual, with parking brake , actual road feel and NO INFOTAINMENT!

[@zolikoff]

I feel like a diy modding scene will pop up around these modern cars with the express purpose of keeping it working way past 10 years by bypassing all the unneeded electronics.

[@rcdriver107]

This is true, especially with unreliable and horrible brands like Nissans, Fiat, and Chrysler.

[@KaitouKaiju]

There's already 10 year old hybrids and EVs that still work, such as the leaf

[@slayerfox2]

My 08 550i still works 😄

[@kazekai8]

Yeah older cars are still alot better than the newer pos car

[@aintaintaword666]

You forgot the problem of family sedans being too firm and "sporty" and the lack of comfortable cruisers

[@ChickenC0re]

The Chrysler 300 fits the bill, but its a bigger car. You can also get a Buick LaCrosse. Otherwise? Your options are limited.

[@HandsomeAlex25]

I figure he covered that concept pretty well with the "sporty" SUV segment.

[@805NAVE]

The Lexus ES is still a comfortable highways cruiser that is a midsize family hauler. And so is the Toyota Avalon.

[@gravemind6536]

The problem with those cars is people insist on putting huge wheels on them with low profile tyres and that makes the ride a lot firmer. When average cars are getting 18-19 inch wheels its taking the comfort out of the car and the suspension no matter how good can't compensate for it. I'll stick to 15 and 16 inch wheels on my cars.

[@wetlettuce4768]

@@gravemind6536 So true my car came with 19" wheels took those things off and threw on some 17"s rides so much nicer doesn't spoil the looks and tires are actually affordable lol.

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

Auto Start Stop must end. PLEASE PURGE IT WITH HOLY FIRE.

[@blackcountryme]

Can't you disable it in the options on the vehicle?

[@dafoex]

I don't understand the problem with it, but then again the problems listed tend to be as a result of automatic cars. In a manual, the engine stops if you're stopped, in neutral and your foot is off the clutch, then starts again when you press the clutch, so if you're crawling along at half a mile an hour you just keep your foot down and in gear. The car knows the driver isn't just stopped there by the way they behave.

[@kenlykkeslett7501]

@@dafoex One thing that annoys me with Stop-Start is the moments when it doesn't quite work. I stop at a red light with a slight inclination. The car stops, and when i put the clutch back in, puts it in gear, releases the clutch and apply the throttle..... nothing happens and i start to roll backwards to the car behind. And i can't even disable it permanently. It's a button i have to active/deactivate every time i start the car. It ends up being a habit, so i'm kinda used to it now. But still a little bit annoying.

[@eivis13]

@@kenlykkeslett7501Sound like a start stop i used to do with my moms old 91 mazda :D

[@sobrev1viente]

Is this this the call for a cruzade brethren?

[@MrKarmapolice97]

Yeah I hate the huge grills especially on Lexus, and the fake floating roof.

[@Tainted79]

Worst trend for me is seeing V6 car's being replaced with 4 cylinder turbo's. Especially when there about the same price/MPG/power, a little bit less reliable, and cost more to fix. The engines sound like an angry feminist and the exhaust sounds like a Japanese vibrator.

[@Hman9876]

This is one of the few things i like about modern cars, a turbo 4 is waaay simpler to repair and service than a transverse v6. It will probably cost about the same to own id wager, but doing a timing belt-chain on a transverse 4 is sooo much easier than a v6. If you want to die, try to do a timing belt on a dual overhead cam, transverse v6, belt driven water pump setup. It is horrendus

[@weedmastersr]

@@Hman9876 No it's not and almost all modern turbos are unreliable pieces of shit.

[@cloudforest4087]

Damn! You hit all the right marks!. I want to keep seeing NA 4s and 6s. Idk bout the turbo craze on a daily driver.

[@moeanthony9308]

@@Hman9876 Have you ever priced out the cost on a fried turbo? It is not cheaper to fix.

[@ShaunHensley]

I4s are a million times easier to work on than vee engines

[@phillipvansickle4220]

Power seats...Especially in 2 door cars. I like the old handle that you can grab and pull the seat forward quickly.

[@Dowlphin]

Only tolerable with easily accessible presets. If I know only I will drive a car, definitely completely unnecessary.

[@olemissjim]

Headlight lens that turn frosty, many headlights are over $2000 if they need replacement. Many of the bulbs require massive disassembly to change, some require the bumper to be removed.

[@jerryleroy9187]

You can bring them back to life with a bit of water and 1000 and 2000 grit sand paper. Then when you wipe it clean, use vim with a soft cloth to polish and voila, new headlights.

[@michu6777]

@@jerryleroy9187 some headlights can be restored by sanding, but for headlights on newer cars I've tried to restore (2011 BMW 528i, 2014 Prius) the shitty plastic degrades so quickly and so thoroughly that cracks form in the lens and the tiny cracks cannot be sanded out. The manufacturers for both of these cars do not sell replacement lenses so the only option is to buy brand new headlights (~$1500 each side)

[@jerryleroy9187]

Well Mitch, that doesn't surprise me. They don't want an easy or cheap fix because they don't make a shit ton of money off of us. Now people have to go to the dealer to change their spark plugs because half of the vehicles out there have to have the motor mounts disconnected just to get at the last 2 plugs. Have you tried to change a battery lately? WOW! My wife had a Dodge Charger and needed a boost one day. I had to get out the manual just to find it. It was IN THE TRUNK of all places. Also if you open a hood nowadays it is straight shrouds and plastic covers and anything else that hinders the view of the actual engine.I remember a time when you could open the hood on a Chevy truck and you could actually see the ground all the way around the engine. You could actually get in there and sit on the wheel well and work on the carb or what have you no problem. Ahh the new era of automobiles. Gotta love it. NOT!

[@Dangalandman]

@@jerryleroy9187 if you polish the headlights more that 2 times you will often leave smudges on them that will stay there .. its like if you've polished through a layer of the plastic

[@Dangalandman]

@@michu6777 its even worse if you have washer jets (dont know how its really called) to "wash" your headlights ... we were having a conversation about BMW .. apparently, the washer fluid is too aggressive and will cause the plastic on your headlights to degrade much much faster ... regarding this, some people I know and some customers as well have their headlight washers disconected

[@JuanMartinez-ny1vf]

Too much freaking sensors and electrical bull shit. they are going to put fart sensors under the seat, so the windows and sunroof will open as soon you release one. Cars are getting way too complicated, I still love simple cars. Simple it's better

[@woodyglendell7400]

LOL!

[@matthiasmartin1975]

Wow, fart sensors - you are brilliant! I think that one is a non-brainer.

[@scarea2691]

Best comment

[@isakjohansson7134]

To be fair that would be neat

[@Background_Checker]

Did you know the start stop system will save you $300 in fuel over the vehicles life time lol That's pathetic savings

[@nurbsenvi]

B. Baker No way that’s too little

[@niranjankedambadi]

300 dollars multiplied by a billion cars can save 300billion dollars of fuel... jst saying...

[@Ephem13]

Where did you get your numbers? Most vehicles are saving 3-12% in fuel depending on your commute and car you drive. If you have a Mini Cooper, it's going to be hard to improve on the already impressive 30mpg but something like an SUV, truck, or luxury car is going to save $300-400 in fuel a year. In the looking around I did, I found no car with performance as poor as $300 over it's life.

[@Background_Checker]

@@Ephem13 nah m8 you've been scammed lol

[@gnarlytothemax]

i figured that start stop tech puts so much wear on starting mechanisms that it negates the cost in fuel savings...

[@phuot1]

Manufacturers got to add gimmicks to justify the cost increase and they are coming out with all kind of gadgets. It's an engeneer dream. It is so costly to repair that peoples (suckers) will change as soon the warranty is over if they did not buy the extended warranty. It's a win for the manufacturers.....

[@mrjohnnyk]

It also makes all this talk about being environmentally conscious and "green" pretty much redundant. It does far more damage to the environment to keep manufacturing and buying new cars all the time than it does to simply run a less economical vehicle for a long period of time. Everyone likes to conveniently forget about the environmental impact that manufacturing has when they talk about what is and isn't good for the environment, it is a ridiculous consumerism mentality.

[@KaktitsMartins]

@@mrjohnnyk I suggest you think twice about that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIPLpZyGmsuJsK8 Its Engineering explained video doing the math and, basically, buying a brand new electric car is going to pay back, co2 wise, in just a few years.

[@bliglum]

Planned obsolescence...

[@andyroid5028]

True. However, there is a huge difference between naturally occurring obsolescence (ex. manual steering) & forced obsolescence (ex. physical/analog radio tuning/volume knobs). You see, I'm quite glad that all cars feature power steering as a standard option. However, there was nothing wrong with the old clockwise/counter-clockwise knobs that were once common on car audio systems. "If it isn't broken, then why try & fix it?"

[@GioGuitarDude]

Been watching Scotty Kilmer eh?

[@bliglum]

@@GioGuitarDude Haha! Well, I knew of the planned obsolescence in many products before Scotty pointed it out, but yup, old Scotty's a hoot. Toyota 4 life!

[@GioGuitarDude]

Haha exactly my friend

[@-Sean_]

Also a problem with iPhones!!

[@blackcountryme]

Keyless entry, and the ease of which it's bypassed. Car stolen without the key

[@dafoex]

Yes, crims love cheap SDRs now.

[@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK]

blackcountryme Honda’s are the worst followed by Chrysler’s

[@3star2nr]

I like keyless entry... And stealing a new car is a really stupid thing to do. Especially if u still have a loan on it EVERY new car has a GPS tracking system built in... The manufacturers can easily track the car... Its how repomen find you...

[@ONI1013.]

Keyless entries are harder to bypass then regular physical keyed entries. Locksmiths have universally confirmed this. And have you ever locked yourself out of your car?? It not only take locksmiths literally 45 seconds to 2 minutes to get in a physical keyed car, they can create a copy of your key in about 10 minutes using the door key hole.

[@govinlock8568]

What about physical keys that has code on it? The door can be opened even battery is dead but has keycode that can't be started the engine even you can duplicated it because the encryption code is not matched.

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

The high beltline is because designers think it looks better. That's really it. The majority of side impact protection is door overlap with any pillars, and the impact beams in the doors. If you look at pictures of side impact protection, it's really just high strength steel pillars and door sills, a metal or plastic impact bar running diagonally through the door. I mean, yes, more metal will absorb more impact, but it really doesn't add that much Another theory is to reduce the greenhouse and load on the ac system. But it's stupid because they make cars with tiny windows than put panoramic sunroofs, which puts glass at the worse part of the car.

[@gwot]

aaaaaaaaaand Benz removed the B pillar from their E class coupes, all for style. but they do claim that their chassis is "so strong" that it's not needed to be "as safe"... HA!

[@HandsomeAlex25]

I think you're right. The advent of standard Side Airbags is far more significant in reducing side-impact injuries than some higher beltline. It's just for the sake of design, to make it look sexier than the outgoing model, yet have far larger blind spots. But don't worry, they'll cover the blind spots with sensors and cameras that are completely unreliable! You, the driver, shouldn't have to do any work.

[@harryjansen6990]

I miss not being able to hang my elbow on the the door sill with the window down.

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

@@HandsomeAlex25 everyone is so worried about active safety that they forget about passive safety. I know curtain airbags definitely make the pillars thicker, but, it's ridiculous at this point. Like some cars from the 80/90s, while not up to modern safety standards, managed to be safe, good looking, and still have large windows

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

@Rollo Lawson yeah then people complain about not being able to see and the lack of light from the higher beltline

[@Neanderthal75]

Too many SUVs. Sometimes I'm alone in my car on the road, along with 30 SUVs around me. But they aren't even SUVs really, many are POS front wheel drive economy trash, basically a budget car lifted a few inches higher but has no off road capability and they are actually more prone to rollover, suck at braking, suck in interior spaces. And the people driving them, can't park them either. They only bought them, because they are gullible and easily influenced by ads and commercials.

[@d.e.b.b5788]

Most people think there should be less SUV's, but they want OTHER people to buy cars. They reserve the right to buy an SUV for themselves. It's like mass transit; everyone wants everyone ELSE to use it.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

It's an autobesity epidemic. Fatassmobiles everywhere. And they're less safe, too. I think it was from 2012 data that the light truck class (SUVs, pickups, and vans) had something like a 47% higher fatality rate in single-vehicle crashes (because of the higher center of gravity, presumably), and single-vehicle crashes accounted for 55% of highway deaths. -- Most crossover sedans look like engorged ticks. What kind of moron would think that riding around in a car designed to look like a fat parasite would be appealing? Someone with really unrefined taste. -- And D.E.B. B -- All the people I know who hate SUVs drive cars, and the reason they hate SUVs is because SUVs are fatassmobiles that block visibility. Getting stuck behind one is like walking upstairs behind a fat person. I think you are not telling the truth, or else you know someone who's an anomaly. -- I think the cure for SUVs would be to enforce the left lane ban on ALL trucks, including SUVs, and make the criterion a height more than 60 or 61 inches (exceptions for emergency vehicles).

[@mrmaniac3]

grizzlygrizzle they do! Crossovers do look like ticks. And bullfrogs. Bottom heavy in appearance. Especially the Ecosport.

[@horrovac]

One aspect of all those SUVs is that you also can't see over them when you're riding a bike or a motorcycle. 10, 20 years ago I didn't need to peek out before overtaking a car, because you had all the road in your view. Drop a couple of cogs, pin it, you're done. Having a peek around an unnecessarily ginormous SUV on a motorcycle may be pretty dangerous, seeing how motorcycles are slower to steer than cars. Also, even if you peek out, you probably still are not seeing the side of the road before the car you're overtaking. With a bicycle, the problem is even worse, because you're not visible to drivers in a line of cars. The front vehicle will cover you up entirely, and if it's an arsehole passing you too close, the driver behind you might not see you until the last second and possibly hit you. The cars need to get low again. Problem is, they won't unless technological constraints force them to, which is not gonna happen.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

@@horrovac -- Exactly. "Unnecessarily ginormous." Commercial vehicles are necessarily ginormous, but personal fatassmobiles are not justified except for families of more than 5. Choosing one is an act of rudeness toward other drivers. Those who drive SUVs, crossovers, and minivans interfere unnecessarily with the highway visibility of normal car drivers, and for many, their driving style seems to devolve into a rudeness appropriate to their choice of vehicle. Enforcing a left lane truck ban on highways for vehicles higher than 60 or 61 inches tall would discourage a lot of people from buying them, and might nudge carmakers to sell more wagons here that they currently sell overseas. And given the higher centers of gravity and the higher fatality rate in single-vehicle crashes of taller vehicles, keeping them out of the fast lane is justified on safety grounds.

[@MasterJim2020]

I think Start/Stop Systems are just prone to wear off the starter for the engine of the car. And starters are very important to have in most cars, because they obviously help out on starting the engine.

[@jamest5149]

fake exhaust farts and burbles... just no point and they sound awful!

[@DiscoFang]

Yes. It's exactly the same as turbo waste-gate blow off valves from the 90's. That is they will try and justify it by claiming turbo spooling between gear-changes but you can still use the same pressure boost without the intentional noise.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

The no dip stick is beyond me but thank you for pointing out, the screen is the distraction lololol putting at line of sight is making things worse haha

[@travissmith2211]

I guess they feel that the car already has a dip stick between the steering wheel and driver seat since someone actually bought a piece of crap like that to begin with.

[@tellucas]

Theres was a Mercedes AMG model that didnt have an oil pressure light or gauge so a blown V8 was your sign that something had failed in the oil system.

[@jevgeniardassov]

All cars have an option to turn off the screen. Which I always do, especially during the night driving.

[@drepop803]

You guys actually get distracted by screens? Wtf? Lol. I have never been distracted. I'll glance once in a while for whatever reason but my attention has always been on road. I love that it lights up my car a bit in night time driving.

[@jeffleach2668]

Exhaust Sports Auto Also the lack of a transmission dipstick.

[@kdash3215]

Mr. Geese, as an automotive dismantler and former mechanic, I do NOT miss power steering fluid driven pumps and racks as some of the other subscribers stated. It was always a mess, even when you're neat. We drop whole motors and transmissions onto drain tables and I can't tell you the amount of times they route power steering lines from the reservoir to the front of the car where the cooling system sits (about 6-10 ft of line) only to find there's no cooler in that area. It's so annoying, maybe they do it for pressure or maybe they did get some minute form of cooling thru the aluminum lines but it's incredibly redundant and messy. /endrant.

[@InFltSvc]

I just came upon your channel a few days ago and it’s refreshing to see others that feel the same as I do. Growing up in the 80’s I remember thinking how cool it was when I got my fist electronic dash on my Cutlass supreme and the cool shaped ‘Plastic’ everything inside and out of my new 94 Z-28 with the LT1. I was working as a crew member for a National Airline and I could not wait until what was next. Now I hate all of it ! I don’t need a electronic device to tell me that I need air in my tires for example. It’s just one more thing that can go wrong and cost a lot of money to fix, otherwise you got to sit there and look at the blinking light on your dash. They really are looking more and more like cockpits of an Airbus and spacecrafts. That’s the trend today that the generation wants and that’s what we’re stuck with. Or, if you’re lucky like I was. Buy a car that’s about 10 years old (One owner, garage kept, very low mileage) that has just about enough technology in it to make it enjoyable to ride and keep it up. Use to be that in America things were built to last and they did, but slowly we became a disposable society. If you remember when gas grills were all the rage and now you can get one for 100 bucks and within a year or two it’s rust and you toss it out. This is now becoming a trend with cars really. Cars are becoming disposable as we become a more disposable society. Thank you for the great videos you are making !

[@motopolak]

You're in for a treat. I recommend watching all his videos (starting from like 3 years ago). He just keeps getting better and better, and is literally one of the only enthusiasts I trust with advice or other knowledge. The endless random humor and dry wit is an extra bonus.

[@Bartonovich52]

I guess different strokes for different folks. My first car was also an Cutlass Supreme with a digital dashboard. I loved it. Said it had “EFIS”. I went through to a VW GTI (terrible car) and then into family vehicles of various age and boringness until I bought a 2018 Honda Civic hatch. Although I bought a rare manual transmission version and it has no assists other than ABS, VSC, and a backup camera, I love it. I love its electronic instrument panel with gas and temp resembling the old Cutlass and the rendered analog tach surrounding the digital speed readout. I like the infotainment that allows me to connect with my phone and music. It feels just like when I went into my Proline 21 cockpit after decades of flying steam gauges... everything was clear and tons of information was available. There’s a couple things I don’t like. No volume knob... but I use the steering wheel anyways. No climate control... but one buttton brings it back and it’s usually on auto anyways. But overall... I’m really happy with the level of technology I have.

[@csmlyly5736]

Disposable means more profitable and since the largest generation is aging out of the working class and tech is replacing jobs, fewer and fewer people have to provide more profitability to an already mature consumer market. We either stop using profit as a measure of value or we continue further down the road of one-size-fits-all disposable consumerism. But we can't have both or the entire formula falls apart.

[@daer2121]

Where did you live? My father went through cars every 2 years from the 70's until the 90's. He didn't beat on them, he drove for a living and lived in the Northeast. After 2 years and 80,000 miles the rings or valves were shot and the body panels were mostly made of rust. I've restored a 68 Camaro. They weren't made with care, they were disposable.

[@salmanza5568]

I've been in the market for a new car for about 4 years now. For once in my life I can't decide because all new cars suck plain and simple. Fake wood, 30k car with vinyl seats, fake exhaust tips, unproven turbo,... these are all things to turn me off.

[@pvkjhilk8323]

you will be or spending big bucks or buying older cars i assume

[@cpufreak101]

If you ask me, consider maybe a Nissan Frontier (been built since 2004 virtually unchanged) or maybe even a Mitsubishi Mirage. That's about all that's left for simple and basic.

[@salmanza5568]

Thing is: I'm not one of those old guys that say 'good ol days'. I think older cars suck too. Atari graphics on their infotainment, lack of soundproofing, I sound very negative but this shouldn't be happening this generation of vehicles

[@moeanthony9308]

@@cpufreak101 Toyota Yaris hatch back is the same Echo from way back. Same 4 speed tranny too.

[@visionist7]

Just get an MX5/Miata. The last driver's car

[@patrickchubey3127]

I love my old car. It's not wickedly overstyled with hundreds of sharp pointless angles, there's no big stupid gross grill, the doors aren't ' dented ' in like so many newer models, I have a REAL spare tire and a REAL key, there's no distracting tv screen with menus within menus making it hard to find certain functions, all the controls have REAL knobs and buttons that are so easy to use, after 17 years I've got them all memorized and can adjust things without even taking my eyes off the road, and if I have to check the gauges, they're right in front of me, not the centre console, and they're simple and quick to check. My car doesn't shut off at a stop sign, I'd really, really hate that, there's no stupid sensors everywhere that can and WILL fail in time, ALL the fluids are easy to check and replace, there's no driver assisted anything, which has forced me to become a better driver over the years, it's far cheaper to fix anything on my car, and after all these years, my V6 still runs like a clock, unlike so many turbocharged 4 bangers that are crapping out faster than you can say ' gigantic repair bill ' and my 4 speed automatic transmission is still functioning flawlessly, and it even came with a block heater as standard equipment because not everyone lives in Florida. What I'm doing at this point is waiting until they start to delete the most obnoxious trends in styling and function regarding ICE cars, either that or until they come up with an electric car that will give me 500 real world miles worth of range with a 25k price tag, whichever comes first. Screw new cars because a lot of their ' features ' are designed to screw YOU, unless of course you actually think that a thousand dollars for a headlight is reasonable. I don't.

[@djtaylorutube]

Yes but...how do you possibly do your social media while on the move?!

[@djtaylorutube]

@@jonsmit3819 Yes my point was that i'd rather someone be a passenger in a driverless car if their training consisted of some input while being supported by aids. Take the aids away and what do they do? It's the same with driving instructors using diesel cars and only teaching students to release the clutch slowly without mentioning the cross over of controls by adding power. Student gets in an underpowered petrol car and can't figure out why the car keeps stalling. Happened to my son and there are plenty of driving instructor videos with comments echoing things like this.

[@ryans413]

My cars old and not perfect but I love her cause she just works. The starter is the original starter and it cranks over every time even in the dead of winter. The engine is a 3.4 V6 that I’ve had no issues cause it get oil changes and new spark plugs most of the time the transmission been good steering and suspension still rock solid. She just got new tires the brakes make a funny sound sometimes but still in great working order. Little vibration doing 70-80 miles an hour down the road but it’s old engine mounts I’m going to replace soon. All the electronics in the car still work radio CD player all the buttons all still work. The original weather stripping still holding up no leaks at the car wash or when it rains. No codes you turn the key on and all the lights go out all the gauges still work and are still reading accurately and since it’s basic any issues are easy to fix. Sometimes basic cars are better to own then the new fancy crap boxes

[@hikaru9624]

@@ryans413 sometimes it's good to be a basic bitch! My Honda crv is getting old now but heaven help me I'll keep that thing going for as long as I can! It's a good car and a solid engine (it also belonged to my late dad but that's irrelevant). My dream car is an old Defender but i do love my Honda.

[@Patchuchan]

Most of the time when manufactures say getting rid of dip sticks and electronic ebrakes is for packaging it's a boldface lie it's actually so you have to take it to the dealer to get serviced. Really electronic ebrakes and electronic shifters need to be banned as they're not only annoying they actually reduce safety. Removing the oil dip stick was just stupid there was zero reason to do that.

[@texasstuff1281]

How does a manufacturer make any money when you take a care to a dealer?

[@tboneforreal]

Jeff Barnard Because the dealer has to buy all the specialized equipment from the manufacturer in order to perform maintenance. That stuff costs thousands to tens of thousands of dollars. The dealer is also going to buy and use OEM parts from the manufacturer instead of cheaper (cost, not necessarily quality) aftermarket made parts. Also any time they can get you to go to the dealer and look at the shiny new cars is another opportunity to potentially sell you a new car as well.

[@bob15479]

​@@tboneforreal yep they want you coming in often, making friends with the employees, feeling at ease, etc. improves brand loyalty.

[@agisler87]

Or maybe it's because people want the tech?! 🤔

[@blackcountryme]

@@agisler87 never heard anyone ask for an electronic hand brake... The no dipstick is a feature for people who don't like cars, don't have to open the bonnet, don't have to find the dipstick, and heaven forbid getting dirty hand's pulling the dipstick out ..

[@robertholmes7912]

You hit the nail on this perfectly, the one I hate the most is that black plastic on the bottom of almost everything, I am going back to a sedan because they don’t have this, after a year or two the black turns gray and it looks like shit you have to constantly put protection on it and the prices of these new cars are expensive and the companies are cheating out.

[@jeffruebens8355]

It is cheaper to not paint the plastic, and when it starts to look like weathered crap more will go to the dealer for another vehicle- Cha-Ching$$$$$$. Also, all the extra electronic crap fails and the dealer makes more money either fixing it or as a fed up trade in- Cha-Ching! again!

[@barbmelle3136]

From Leo: Good Luck finding a sedan. Pontiac, Olds, Plymouth and Mercury are gone. Ford, Lincoln, Chevy, Buick and Dodge no longer make a full sized sedan. If you don't want a truck, even if it has a Cadillac emblem on it, you are just out of luck. Even driving old cars is no longer an option, because too many of the electronics go obsolete or are Very expensive.

[@smyk1975]

It’s actually a welcome trend for those of us living in harsh climates. The last two cars I had to replace due to horrible rust issues on the rocker panels

[@stinkycheese804]

@@smyk1975 Nope, adding the plastic panels does not keep the metal they're on from rusting. It just means that when that metal does rust, you have less structural stability because automakers are now using thinner steel and elaborate shapes to provide the unibody stiffness. The best thing you can do to combat rust, is get a truck with a full frame. At least then it is structurally sound for a while. I too live in a harsh rust zone and have retired cars because they simply could not be jacked up any longer, the jack would just go right through the pinch weld area for it.

[@skeve613]

I've kept driving my 99 Corolla because it's, you know, just a car. It's not a phone, TV, or GPS. The absence of tech makes it cheap to maintain, I can fix a lot of things myself using some basic mechanical know-how. Things rarely go wrong because it's so mechanically straightforward, and when something does need professional work it's usually quite inexpensive. The lack of cruise control does make longer trips a real chore, though.

[@lonniemorrison2987]

SAme with my 95 van.

[@theadvocate4698]

couldn't you pick a cruise control at a scrapyard and plug it in?

[@jacobbenns6090]

Man, I love my 2002 Dodge Dakota for the same reason, I can fix almost anything that would ever go wrong mechanically

[@dogedude9537]

Go to a scrapyard and put in cruise control, it's all plug and play and the wiring harness to plug in the cruise ECU is down by the driver side footwell, (it is at least on my 4th gen camry) I added cruise to my camry and it makes it so much easier to do long road trips and it's so worth it.

[@francikaa1]

We (as the viewers) say thank you for taking the effort and going through hundreds of comments, and for making a response video, based on the comments from the first one. Thumbs up given(for this video too).

[@sansss2027]

It's becoming a pissing contest for these car companies, on how much they can complicate things

[@justanotherdrunk]

wrong dont blame the car companies like blaming the drug dealer

[@AlexandarHullRichter]

I rather like unpainted parts. Why? They're good for practicality. My car is an old CR-V. I don't have to worry about rock chips on my front bumper, because there's no paint. If I bump into something, I don't have to worry about scratches, because there's no paint. If someone crasses into me and I have to replace a bumper; a, it's less than $100 for a new one because there's no paint; b, & don't have to worry about the color mismatching, because there's no paint. Don't get me wrong, I love the color of my car, and I like that a few parts of my car are body color, instead of grey or black as they were on the CR-V LX, but parts of the car that are designed to get damaged (i.e. bumpers) simply look better after years of use if they're made so that the damage isn't as noticeable, because, let's face it, minor damage will happen over the years a car will be used, and it's better if that damage doesn't have to be repaired for the car to look nice.

[@tinytimnashville]

I had a 1991 Lebaron with a 2" black rub strip all around the car. Never had a door dink or scratched bumper the whole time i owned the care and I did a lot of parallel parking. these color keyed bumpers are for the birds....

[@TheShornak]

Yes I hate all the SUV's. I drive a 4 door sedan, and it's hard to back out of a parking spot because there is so much SUV's that park next to me. Oh and how about a Mitsubishi Eclipse SUV!!!! An SUV with a sports car name. How lame is that?

[@TheShornak]

Moritz Schmidt if you google 2018 Mitsubishi Eclipse you'll see an SUV with a 1.5l turbo. It's blah, blah, blah

[@ForOrAgainstUs]

I never hear anyone else complain about all the SUVs that block everyone's view, but every time I go to the store and park somewhat near the entrance, I wonder if when I come back is my view going to be blocked and 80% of the time I've been sidled by 2 SUVs.

[@AbrahamsYTC]

Finally...I hate them too...I mean I didn't mind them as much back like 5-7yrs ago but now it seems like every other damn car is an SUV. Where I live there is a shitty entrance that is right at the turn of a semi-busy street. With normal coupes/sedans, the visibility is good enough...but when you have a bunch of fucking dark tinted SUVs in a line it makes it hard to see incoming cars when pulling out.

[@amak1131]

I hate the "I want a big car!" syndrome... Similar vein with pickups: people want them for the few times they'd be more useful than a car.

[@bradscott3165]

I loved my 4g eclipse and I hate the new SUV. but let's face it: the 4g Eclipse was just an SUV with a sporty body... that's part of what made it so rugged.

[@chiplevan6622]

All the speeds in a transmission reminds me of the Saturday Night Live "commercial" with a razor that kept adding blades.

[@GoldenGrenadier]

How about cost? That's the biggest detriment to new cars and most of this ludicrously high cost comes from all the unnecessary junk that's being put in cars.

[@orlock20]

Not just the cost to own, but to repair.

[@csmlyly5736]

Unnecessary add-ons and expensive maintenance is the entire point. These companies don't make cars to make people happy - they have to continually improve profits year over year. The market got saturated with good cars that would last a long time and leave the customer satisfied. So the next logical step once everyone who could buy a car had one was to artificially increase the price of the car by non-optional addons, cumbersome or proprietary maintenance routines, and engineered obsolecence. How can a company whose only requirement is to maintain a profit make any other choice? If customers left fully satisfied, the customer would never come back and consumers aren't being born as quickly as they used to be.

[@woooweee]

Touch screens. Until they perfect voice control, its simply a dangerous distraction. And yea, its weird how new small cars have worse visibility from inside than old large cars. You know its bad when a new corolla has the same restricted view as an older sedan with a spoiler. and Its funny because microsoft started using that fabric material on their laptops...

[@RadicalEdwardStudios]

I definitely agree with the blind spot concern. I drive a 2015 BMW 550i. I cannot get by without the blind spot sensor, because the rear quarter is a total dead zone. On my last car, I could just adjust my angle and see everything.

[@gizmothewytchdoktor1049]

the lowest common denominator dictates what we have for choices. otherwise..it's expensive for driving enjoyment.

[@MegaNardman]

The problem is it's often the lowest common denominator plonking down all that $$$ to buy a new vehicle...or more likely, lease that new Lexus. Car enthusiasts are more likely to be able to perform general maintenance, and will wait to pick up the car after most of the depreciation has been eaten.

[@DaveThaBossDTB]

@@MegaNardman Exactly. Works in my favor. Bought a 2017 Audi S3 with 20k miles for 19k. Need 2.5k in repair and is now worth 22k more or less. The maintenaince I can take care of to a certain extent. Only the timing belt replacement I can not really do still...

[@mikem2253]

I will always think that if you want the purest driving experience- buy a base manual Porsche.

[@harryjansen6990]

Unfortunately, the lowest common denominator now cannot even FIND the radio let alone change channel or turn the volume up or down. Too complicated, 4 to 5 screen touches just to make the heater fan go faster/slower is criminal.

[@gizmothewytchdoktor1049]

harry: one aspect of the point i was making is that there is nothing in modern cars control wise that is truly intuitive. hell...just look at the shifters. there aren't even any cables attached to an automatic tranny anymore. your input is merely a suggestion for the government under the hood. same goes for the throttle(dbw) and now,even the brakes. all computer controlled. when these cpu's take a shit the car will be bricked in 5 to 10 years because of three little letters: NLA(no longer available) and DMCA bullshit. with each model year the level of cars becoming appliances(much like a freezer or fridge)increases exponentially. if a driver is looking for a true driving experience then the quest will be long,hard and most of all...expensive. all the tech is accomplishing these days are allowing people who,because of their lack of attention span,to get behind the wheel and wreak havoc on the road and others on it. tech in cars is more than a distraction because it requires your attention(eyes off the road)instead of muscle memory and the brain's memory centres. i could write a dissertation on this but this isn't the place. my opinion on this though is that if one cannot drive a car proper then public transportation or a cab is the answer...not that bloody tech and all the excessive garbage that goes with it. as for me...i will stick to my '94 v12 jag.

[@chadsteele1]

Saw an add commercial for an 88 chev pickup, they touted 18-22mpg, funny here we are 20 years later, mpg is close to the same. It's a joke but lets add another doo dad, yah, bedazzle it too and it sells. it's a joke.

[@mistersomaru]

well, the power is better now, at least. Just get rid of most of the useless expensive crap.

[@irama9520]

Closer to 15 but k.

[@irama9520]

And my car is like 22 mpg with similar hp.

[@paladain55]

@@irama9520 That was also when the highway speed limit was 55 mph and trucks had 200 horsepower. Not really comparable. Knock that number down 20% and that would be the 70 mph number like the new trucks.

[@user-ut9ln4vd5m]

Don't be surprised - 110 years ago Ford's Model T got 21 miles per gallon

[@19redmiata94]

Many of these reasons are why I love my Tacoma. Even though its a 2019, it has many old school features.

[@ashleyjohnson1454]

19redmiata94 yeah like drum brakes lol

[@cdradmaker]

I will never buy a new vehicle. I absolutely hate all of the electronic BS that is in them. It's just more distracting and more of a headache when they malfunction. I will do everything I can to keep my 1988 car on the road. I love the simplicity of it from both a driver's perspective and the ease of working on it mechanically. And...I have both a oil and transmission dipstick that I can easily access! I am in full-on rebellion against all of the new electronic crap in vehicles today! Nothing is made to last long anymore. I think that's a huge mistake!

[@jeffpiper4374]

My MDX has not one, but two LCD screens (plus a mini display between the gauges). One is a touchscreen, the other is controlled by about 50 rotary dials, buttons and thumbwheels. The infotainment system alone has a 281 page owner's manual. It's ridiculous! After spending two days studying the regular 578 page owner's manual I've learned to use the 3 functions I use the most and just pretend the other things don't exist.

[@cloudforest4087]

Pretending is good. Haha

[@sokthearrith]

You had me dying at the “fLoatInG ROOf” and the plastic cladding hahaha, SO MANLY AND OFF ROAD CAPABLE! *drives a Kia Sportage EX*

[@yarpos]

why do people assume an SUV is an off road vehicle? its just the modern day station wagon

[@steviesevieria1868]

@@yarpos people aren’t assuming it’s off road, they’re getting the idea from the marketing.

[@Marcus_972]

I blame Panera Bread/Whole Foods/ Lulu Lemon.

[@giovanniherrera6037]

Lmao food companies have nothing to do with this. Middle aged moms and old guys are the ones who eat this shit up. Also ricers get boners when they see the fake exhausts and noise

[@herbiehusker1889]

It's Starbucks fault. All these trendy people think they NEED and SUV so they buy a FWD CRV. They're stupid. You'd be better off with a civic wagon, but Honda will never sell that. I like SUVs, but reall SUVs like the Tahoe or the old Ramcharger or the Wrangler.

[@gtlegacy8]

This is the main reason why I rather drive a old 12 year old base model Datsun

[@laryanryan9170]

If it's a Datsun it's older than 12 years. More like 35 years old.

[@mrmaniac3]

Laryan Ryan is there a such thing as a 2006 Datsun?

[@basedana]

That why I prefer a 1957 Bel Air

[@laryanryan9170]

@@mrmaniac3. Datsun became Nissan in 83

[@laryanryan9170]

@@basedana 55 is my favorite

[@milliog-man1858]

Dont know if you mentioned this but besides the oil dipstick. The transmission dipstick is another trend

[@josech]

Did I miss it or head and tail lights that cost hundreds and even thousands of dollars weren't mentioned?

[@tomo0086]

Jose C. Have you ever driven an Audi with full LED matrix lights on a dark country road? Biggest difference in safety I’ve ever seen in a car.

[@richardnavratil9661]

I think it was in the first part of the video, the #1 complaint - cost to buy/own/repair.

[@roya.cathcartjr.5042]

You can thank Ford Motor Company for that Jose C. Ford designed the plastic composite headlight housings in the 1980's and claimed it increased visibility and safety and pushed the National Highway Safety Institute to require them on all vehicles by 1990 Chrysler Corporation and General Motors disagreed with Ford and said that the headlight housings would oxidize from the elements and heat of the bulbs and reduce light output Ford won and got their way. Vehicles used to have glass sealed beam lightbulbs which didn't oxidize and was bright until broken or burned out and they were cheaper now you have the composite plastic headlight housings that cost hundreds of dollars to replace and the bulbs also cost between $50 & $100.

[@fredkuhn165]

Roy Cathcart Jr I agree with glass as a cheaper option and no hazing, but a square block is not aerodynamic and they definitely don’t fit into modern designs. Another thing with the led lights, they are safer for the owners, but more dangerous for oncoming traffic. They also don’t melt snow off like the old lights and people are lazier and more inconsiderate than ever as far as cleaning lights off or even turning their high beams off

[@roya.cathcartjr.5042]

@@fredkuhn165 I've seen an aftermarket parts company has for the older vehicles with the glass sealed beam headlights a conversion kit where the bulbs can be replaced with a glass housing and like with modern headlights the replacement high intensity discharge (HID) halogen bulbs insert through the back. The older classic cars I had with the sealed beam glass bulb headlights the bulbs were round and the front of the bulbs were curved I only had one older vehicle with square headlights and that was a 1982 Chevrolet Chevette before that I owned a 1968 Ford Falcon Futura and before that a 1971 Ford Mustang.

[@marksuave25]

Starter buttons, having direct injection WITHOUT port injection to combat the dirty intake valves. Lastly, I absolutely hate over complicated suspensions. These cars pretty much get in a accident slightly above a fender bender and they are totalled out. It is sad.

[@armaggedon4christ]

Exhaust valves I believe. Not 100% sure....I love the top end Vettes...I call it Twinjection and screw you ITS AN AWESOME NAME

[@richardniemi2620]

I recently discovered your videos and really enjoy them. After watching Viewers Worst Trends I would Like to make a comment about bumper changes in recent cars / suvs. They have made the bumpers More flush with the Grilles, Trunks, and Hatches on Suvs and Hatchbacks. Many of them the Grille, Trunk and Hatches stick out further than the Bumpers. If you hit a pole that is higher than the bumper height It would not hit the bumper and then damage the Grille etc.

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

Start stop isn't going to wear out your starter or cause any untoward engine wear or reliability issues - the engineering side of this has been taken into account by the manufacturers and isn't a problem at all. The weak point will probably be the electronic controller of the system (as usual). But yes, the jerking and vibration issues are real and very irritating. Thankfully you can disable start stop in most cars that have it but in many cases you have to configure it every time you drive the car...

[@yarpos]

agree, hot start stop doesnt cause unusual wear. Courier vehicles routinely do 500k-700k kms plus on one engine

[@mrjohnnyk]

The worst thing is when people get this whole elitist mentality about how "green" they are when they buy a new "eco" car, completely ignoring the impact that manufacturing has on the environment when they get a new car every few years.

[@morosis82]

There is some merit to this, but with a recent interest in EVs I've become aware of how much of the environmental impact is from manufacturing and how much from running. Spoiler alert: manufacturing is a small fraction, unless you drive an EV charged by renewables.

[@mrjohnnyk]

@@morosis82 Funny you mention EV's because the batteries they rely upon are a very dirty business.

[@morosis82]

@@mrjohnnyk not as dirty as 20 years of burning fossil fuels, but sure, go stick your fingers in your ears and sing.

[@mrjohnnyk]

@@morosis82 It is ironic for you to say "go stick your fingers in your ears and sing" when that is exactly what you are doing right now. Regardless of how bad fossil fuel is, the fact remains that electric cars are far from being without their own drawbacks and there is also the fact that the energy they depend upon largely comes from fossil fuels such as coal. In other words the technology isn't nearly as clean as it is said to be and the more popular it gets the dirtier it gets. Relying upon a fallacy of indicating something bad isn't going to get you far in the future.

[@morosis82]

@@mrjohnnyk no irony. As electric cars and renewables become more popular, even the cars already on the road get cleaner over time. On a clean grid, like I think it's BC in Canada with lots of hydro, you could build and run 4 or 5 Tesla's for the same emissions as a single ICE vehicle over 180k miles. When solar and wind are manufactured with solar and wind, and the cars are powered by it too, it'll be more like 10:1. And that ignores that batteries are built to be recyclable, and that GHG emissions are not the only thing that EVs do far better than current vehicles, especially diesel.

[@Hiiiiiiiiieeee]

The start-stop tech in my 2019 Jetta sel is so smooth. It only activates if you brake harder at a stop and it starts back up instantaneous when I move my foot from the brake.

[@steviesevieria1868]

Yeah Volkswagens are known for smoothly breaking down. So smooth.

[@Warkid1993]

This video makes me appreciate my BRZ so much more

[@pvkjhilk8323]

i was thinking how the toyota 86 got it right with the premium interior, that is besides the cost per hp part of it

[@houssamalucad753]

Same goes to the BMW M2!

[@07wrxtr1]

370z = cheap thrills

[@behindthen0thing]

Happy with my r35

[@rouser301]

My favorite feature is a tire pressure readout on my dash.

[@A55455In47I0n]

I GOT AN AD FOR FORDS NOISE CANCELLATION TECHNOLOGY MID-VIDEO

[@bennetfox]

I am so happy to still be driving my 1959 GMC truck.

[@saabrailfan310]

Thats my dream truck. Keep it with you. ❤❤❤

[@theSunKing142]

Bennet Fox - wow👍 and i thought my 20 years old Volvo is old😂 - btw I am only 2 y younger than ur truck😉 - cheers from CH.

[@VVENDINGEN]

Manufacturers didn't remove the dipstick, they just moved it from the engine compartment to right on top of the drivers seat.

[@deu8894]

All points mentioned are very valid. The essence of a vehicle remains reliable transportation of goods and/or services without gimmicky features

[@elijahhirst9955]

The high number of gears is actually a really useful, it lowers the requirement of the engine, so the rpm can stay within a very close range, it actually really helps performance since you don’t need as much horsepower to get really good acceleration and top speed, it also comes back to the emissions and displacement, it’s easier to get a lot of torque than to get a lot of horsepower

[@rc-wingman5719]

I am so happy with my 20 year old car! IT even HAS AIR CONDITIONING!!!!

[@jacobbenns6090]

SAME! I have a 2 12v outlets too!

[@johnpearson492]

I have three 20 year old cars. I love them all,and they don't have any of the issues that are listed in this video.

[@retrogreene]

@@johnpearson492 I own a first gen kia soul and I wouldn't trade it for a 2020 model. Its really nice not worrying about expensive screens breaking because it has none.

[@smokeytripod]

One gripe I have with my current car - a 2016 VW Polo- is that the CD player for the stereo is hidden under a flap in the glove box. Now forgive me since this is my 1st car -getting rid of it soon though lol - but every other car I've ever been in the CD player is kept just under the main radio system not hidden away somewhere. Now when I bought it I was told there was a CD player but the salesman never showed me and no where in the manual I have with it shows me where it actually is, I only found out where it was after 3yrs owning it because my new salesman for my new Golf showed me where it was when he was valuing my Polo lol

[@vvjkumar]

Whats a CD player? Ha ha.

[@smokeytripod]

@@vvjkumar In all fairness i never planned on using the CD player as I just have a USB memory stick with a ton of music on it instead plugged in lol, it's just when I got it the guy was all like " oh theres a CD player plus this that and the other" and i've just been like....but where is it D:

[@tabbott429]

Like most industries. .. Auto designers want job security and keep changing things to justify their fat paychecks. Tried and true things that work get scrapped for new and "improved" versions which end up failing. My newest vehicle is 2006. Still has an actual key. My other vehicles are 1958,1981,1990,1992,1999. All paid for and run and drive beautifully since I CAN FIX THEM MYSELF! Technology is overrated in many cases. Having an endless car payment was something I gave up in 2012 especially since I read about all the expensive repairs required to keep electronic cars on the road.

[@visionist7]

Six cars! Watcha' got?

[@tabbott429]

@@visionist7 58 chevy belair, 81 formula firebird, 90 mazda mx6, 92 eagle talon turbo, 99 jeep cherokee, 2006 f150 4x4 w/heavy duty payload package.

[@madmaxblaster]

Here's a couple: Euro plates behind 🇺🇸 plates. Coupes having back seats but has no leg room. Donk cars.

[@FerrySwart]

Euro plates behind US is not something the car makers do. The owners do it. and besides, what's it to you??? what a BS complaint. Why do you have a problem with people that want to show their car (or themselfs) are imported from europe? Get a life!

[@madmaxblaster]

@@FerrySwart thank you for that insightful comment. My opinion, my views. If you don't like my comment, move on. You're p probably one of those people who put Euro plate behind American plates but your car never went to Europe. And another one, this comment was last year, grow up.

[@FerrySwart]

@@madmaxblaster No, i'm not, i live in Europe, not in the USA. Never presume somthing you know nothing about. You must grow up and don;t complain about what others do. What's it to you of people leave the europlate behind their US plate? It's a sully useless complaint....

[@madmaxblaster]

@@FerrySwart just don't sorry about my opinion, it's just like you, useless and stupid. It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. If you're butt hurt about it, deal with it. Why waste time and reply negatively to someone's post. You're actually the one who has a bs complaint complaining about my opinion.

[@sgtpepper6379]

Well, those useless back seats cut your insurance payments by quite a bit. Coupes are much more costly to insure, so companies put useless rear seats, just so you don't have to insure a 2 seater.

[@mnemonicabyss]

10 speeds are ground-breaking in performance scenarios, being able to keep in the powerband peak is huge against a manual or lesser geared transmission. I just hate the sound, hearing the rev range is part of the fun.

[@itsalgud1459]

This is a very interesting discussion, presented very well. I agree with some of the things people are complaining about, many are very real. At the same time, being a retired senior, I also see and hear a lot of people complaining about these “dang newfangled contraptions!“ back in the 60s people were complaining about how they didn’t build cars like they did in the 40s. There’s always somebody, mostly us older people, complaining that the new whatever isn’t as good as the old whatever. Truth is, time marches on. Things change, such as concerns about the environment, and we have to change with them. I much prefer the cars of today as they are much much safer (while passenger miles are way way up, deaths are way way down) and pollute much less, while using less fuel. Of course, I have grandchildren, which makes me care about such things. As to modern styling trends, since I survived the fins of the late 50s, I can survive anything!😆

[@grizzlygrizzle]

I would like to see all safety mandates subjected to a cost-benefit analysis. For every life a seatbelt saves, the cost is around $60 thousand, considering all the money paid for every car to have them. For every life an airbag saves, the cost is about $2 million. (From an analysis done by Freakanomics economist Steve Levitt.) How many other lives could be saved if that 2 million were allocated toward more cost-effective lifesaving measures? A lot of what makes newer cars safer is crush zones, roll cages, and collapsible steering columns, and these don't have to be expensive. Screw the air bags.

[@itsalgud1459]

grizzlygrizzle I’m not confident in your source. In any case, you sound like a Bridgestone tire engineer, justifying to his management why they shouldn’t fix their tires so they can maximize their profits on the backs of dead people and their families!😖

[@grizzlygrizzle]

@@itsalgud1459 -- I have no conflict of interest here, no financial stake in whether or not cars are festooned with marginally-effective mandated safety items. I do have preferences for elegant simplicity in engineering, for cost-benefit analyses for economic policies, and for anti-fascist political policies that don't mandate dependency on centralized power, whether they're governmental or corporate.

[@itsalgud1459]

grizzlygrizzle Maybe I wasn’t clear, or maybe you just wanted to miss the point! I did not say that you had any vested interest in any of this, only that you were putting a price on human lives. Also, as most of you statistically minded types conveniently forget, it’s very hard to measure the cost of 20,000 deaths a year to factor into your cost benefit analysis. As to “marginally successful “safety regulations, I gather that you haven’t bothered to check highway safety statistics over the last 20 or 30 years.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

@@itsalgud1459 -- Guilty as charged, and proud of it. In the real world, money doesn't grow on trees. And other resources are finite. I'm not a fan of the "If it saves one life..." and "It's for the children" arguments, because they often amount to virtue signalling and lead to emotion-driven misallocations that do more harm than good. Utopian states that focus on safety and security at the expense of liberty and reason historically go broke or end up in genocide. -- Actually I'm quite familiar with highway safety statistics over the past few decades. I'm also familiar with the stats for hospital deaths due to errors, which outweigh all highway deaths by a factor of about 12. Saving lives requires choices and allocations. -- Light trucks (SUVs, pickups, and vans) had, in 2012, a 47% higher fatality rate than cars in single-vehicle crashes, presumably due to their higher centers of gravity. Single-vehicle crashes accounted for 55% of all highway deaths. Shouldn't we do something to discourage non-essential SUV purchases, like extending the left-lane ban on highways to light trucks? That could discourage a lot of people from buying SUVs, cost virtually nothing, and even generate revenue. -- As cars become more complicated, they become more expensive to fix, and more disposable. How much environmental damage results from having to make new cars when old ones might have been kept running? And how much fuel efficiency is lost, now that an economy car today weighs about twice what an economy car weighed 40 years ago? It's all about choices and consequences. Sentimental utopianism is no way to run a country.

[@tomooo2637]

Auto start/stop : Is a really bad idea in automatic cars (most of the US market), but work fine with manual transmission, and it works exactly as I would expect and want when I stop a short time (with clutch down - running), or a longer time (out of gear - stopped). So a really crap idea in the US and other markets with auto-cars.

[@Maggie-tr2kd]

1. Uncomfortable seats - bottom cushion too short, not enough cushioning or support 2. Too many SUVs - can't even see my sedan in the parking lot or the traffic signal up ahead 3. Car makers tying the nicer interior trim levels to the bigger, more powerful engines 4. Limited choices for interior car colors 5. Protective side moulding seems to be totally unfashionable now but it did protect against some dings 6. Blinding headlights or headlights mounted too high on the vehicle

[@sobrev1viente]

Dude if you can't see your sedan is that bad you should look for a third gen firebird, while the suspension isn't that low, the overall height of the car is even lower than most sedans.

[@Sanpedranoazul]

Cars are getting more disposable, still the early 2000s productions are fine...

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

100% agree with unpainted trim and bumpers. It makes cars look nasty and cheap. Even that new Alfa Romeo SUV has plastic shit all around it and it makes the car look godawful. Can't wait for that trend to die cause it's just eye pollution on the road for me.

[@fictitiousart6410]

The pass air bag in my Ford Escape is a nice feature. I try and fill it twice a week for better fuel economy.

[@jerryleroy9187]

My pet peeve about these new vehicles is this. My wife bought a brand new 2018 ford escape and you cannot get a fob for the auto start. It must be done from your smart phone. So if you don't have service, like in northern Canada, you're screwed. And I have a flip phone so..... It's gonna be interesting when we go visiting a Christmas because I know who will be going out to start and warm up the car!

[@FearOfDeath1332]

My question is why did you buy it?

[@HobbiesWithNick]

And you have to pay for the stupid service anyways!

[@2010challengerRT]

Wait, so a car you can't see out of is safer now?

[@benoitbricet8885]

Less glass who cam break. More metal to protect you.

[@dracobengali]

Idle stop can also be an issue anywhere that's "warm". I was in Florida--not even the middle of the summer either--and the engine would only stay stopped for at most 10 seconds before starting back up to run the A/C.

[@reyarthur2792]

We are going make him a part 3. Because I worked in a dealership. You will need a expensive scan tool with the software to unlock your breaks to change your brakes for the new cars.

[@ChickenC0re]

I would never trust a brake-by-wire vehicle.

[@reyarthur2792]

Better than an electronic braking system I had customers come in saying that their electric power steering went out. It was hard for them to turn the wheel. The simple issue was just the battery was bad. Cars nowadays with shut off certain things to keep the car running. Better pray to God that is not your electronic braking.

[@seansimmons73]

In all fairness it sucks to change breaks on old cars. That's a job I'll gladly pay a mechanic to do

[@reyarthur2792]

seansimmons73 depends on the car you get. If you have rotors with the hub built in them or the caliper pistons that you have to twist to compress which they are bringing that back already then ya. Well they are making it out that you have no choice. If you dont have the software then you cannot change the brakes at all. Have to educate before buying. Not wait until it's too late.

[@seantaylor2683]

@@reyarthur2792 - Everything I hear about newer vehicles makes me not want to buy anything past the mid-2000's

[@gak0090]

The Start/Stop thing is a huge annoyance, especially from a safety perspective. There are times when you are at a stop and need to pull out into traffic, or you' re stopped in a traffic circle waiting to merge then suddenly you have to wait a couple seconds for everything to start. It's really a safety concern and I don't know why this was never brought up before this technology was implemented. Something else you mentioned is that in a place like Chicago where you have standstill traffic it may be an advantage- I don't know if i agree with that, because usually the traffic is creeping and not at a complete standstill. I hate it, although both my vehicles have a button to override it, I need to press it each time I start the car. There should be a universal lockout that would allow you to preserve that setting. By the way- well done videos!- interesting points, I don't completely agree with everything, but that's ok, everyone has unique perspectives.

[@sacatolasmoreira5593]

as soon as you step on the clutch the car turns on.

[@gak0090]

​@@sacatolasmoreira5593 you mean the gas? There's no clutch pedal, it's an automatic. There is still a hesitation when it starts, that hesitation could be safety issue if you need the car to respond quickly.

[@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK]

George Kountouris not to mention it damages the starter and flywheel (and the rest of the transmission)

[@sacatolasmoreira5593]

@@gak0090 I meant clutch, I don't drive automatic.

[@Ephem13]

Not once have I encountered a situation where I couldn't spare less than a second. If you are approaching a stop sign and need to pull out into moving traffic, disable it before you get to the stop sign. If you are stopped in a traffic circle you are doing it wrong, there is no other way of putting this. It's not the feature that is unsafe, it's your methods of dealing with situations people negotiate safely with these features every day. I can only imagine the number of times other drivers have had to slam on their brakes because of your driving.