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[@thetriggerman954]

We are all learning from each other. I'm still a student of the trade. No one owes you anything and no one will give you anything. But sometimes you just have to take it. And once I start to release real trade secrets from guys that are dead and gone. I then will again TAKE IT 💪🏼 Trigger❤️

[@nickcrill7718]

Hoping the opportunities will be there for me this year in the Tacoma/Seattle area. Tired of boats.

[@funfun8095]

You're always helpful and I have a question. Maybe a video idea for you. I've painted metallics before, but on assembled cars. I'm about to do a full color change on a stepside pick up truck. I have it all in pieces, fenders off the bed, bed separate from cab, etc. How would you tackle it? Can I do the bed and everything off the vehicle? I also can't fit every part, of the truck, in my booth at the same time. Thanks, in advance!

[@kr2513]

Release the dragon. It’s all up from here unless they shadowban you somehow 3:26 😭😭

[@PaintSociety]

This was great! The edit was creative, loved it. Spray it wet! You were right all along! Great job trigga. Keep up the good work. Happy New Year bud!

[@thetriggerman954]

@@PaintSociety Thank you Brian. You and me both are students of this trade as well as educators of the trade. And at the end of the day the goal is to teach these guys and let them know it's ok to try a different approach other than what they've been taught. Happy New Year. Have a blessed 2025

[@PaintSociety]

@@thetriggerman954 TY! It’s true and it does work and my blends and finishes have been much better because of it. We are always evolving as painters, men, teachers and KZbinrs. You bring a different style to your video that makes watching paint dry, entertaining 😀

[@thetriggerman954]

@@PaintSociety yes sir, an old painter Tim showed me that method in 2007 at the Chrysler dealership in plantation and I've been doing it ever since. Works with pretty much every solvent base paint manufacturer. Spray on brother 🤙🏼

[@PaintSociety]

@@thetriggerman954Nice! Well going to keep this technique on the front burner with metallics. 😊

[@joewolf4483]

Never question the Triggerman ...

[@FoolintheRainSDMF]

Can question him but he will give an explained answer that's what's good bout him. Much love yall

[@FoolintheRainSDMF]

Can spray wet as hell just keep it movin in the contour of whatever and follow through so not to have runs stop/starts. I'd rather waste stuff in the air than have it loaded up on a stop to run and stop flow.

[@ptours99]

i’m so glad that i started watching this channel im a 3 year beginner and man i learned alot from you great information thanks

[@thetriggerman954]

@@ptours99 I'm glad you started watching my channel too. And thank you.

[@timhudson8958]

Trigger don’t let folks get under your skin you have a great channel and give out lots of great advice! You’re quick to respond to with advice and that’s the thing to me that’s making your channel grow so fast! People watch these channels to learn and have questions you answer yours ,most don’t or are sow to respond. Your video with the hood and the paint reaction triggered me to finally figure out my issue! Thanks keep it real!

[@thetriggerman954]

I'm glad the video helped you figure out what your problem was. And the stuff doesn't really get up under my skin well let me stop lying yeah it does BUT I always turn it into a positive and make content out of it. There's always something to be learned even from a stupid comment. And believe me I lose no sleep over that stuff I just get a little aggressive when I speak. I suppose 🤷🏼‍♂️😂😂😂

[@Jose-rq1ig]

Glad we have you in the paint world to share your experience! You keep it the realist out of most of the KZbin guys out there.

[@thetriggerman954]

I appreciate it. A lot of those guys on KZbin are very good painters. Just here to do my part. Thank you Jose 💪🏼

[@coolhandlukeproductionluke3774]

TRIGGER MAN you’re the painter CHAMP BROTHER.Preach and teach Bro 👊🏽💪🏾🤛🏽

[@thetriggerman954]

@@coolhandlukeproductionluke3774 appreciate the support Luke.

[@John_Sabatini_Custom_Paints]

I appreciate you taking a high road instead of trash talking another KZbinr. I get the impression you and the other person don’t get along so not trashing him makes me have even more respect for you as a person. Being someone who is new to this game I have learn a lot from you and many others. I appreciate all that you and others are doing to help us all learn.

[@thetriggerman954]

Yeah we don't really see eye to eye. But the guy is actually a good teacher and helps guys learn the trade that saved my life. So by default I respect him. And trash talking another man is not in my DNA. Unless they draw fist blood. Thank you for your support and actually recognizing what was what here. Much respect 🫡✊🏼

[@John_Sabatini_Custom_Paints]

@@thetriggerman954 happy new year brother.

[@juanmata2433]

Triggerman.. so what ur saying is ur a pro at get em' WET!! This video needed ur dancing devas man

[@thetriggerman954]

Lmao 🤣 nah man I'm no " pro painter " but I'm good at what I do. Dancing divas sound good. I need the cheap ones with stretch marks and dry skin 😬😅

[@crankerdeepdivers5674]

lol yep call them older divas triggermans dancing harem lol

[@AFBrat1957]

I want to thank you for your videos. I only paint occasionally. I have a couple of old MGs, and members of my family have a couple of collector cars. I don't do it often enough to get really good at it. Your tips have helped me immensely. Again. thanks and keep it going.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you man. Much appreciated and I'm glad the videos halp

[@sammydavis2419]

Trigger, man your videos helped me to stay in the game..... I was so discouraged, but watching and listening to you I got a new found love for Painting because I became a better painter just watching you bro.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thanks man Glad to hear that. But just know we'll come to that same roadblock again. It happens to all of us, it even happens to me I had a week last month where it seem like every single thing I did went wrong and it makes you question yourself like is it time to throw in the towel but then I look up and I pray get past it and then go back into ass kicking mode. But it does happen and I know exactly what you're talking about just try not to let it get to you and just know it's one of those things that every single painter has gone through, or is going through and will go through.

[@TheHumblePaintSprayer333]

Love your content mate keep doing what you doing have a blessed new year man 🙏

[@thetriggerman954]

Same to you happy new year ❤️🙏🏼

[@paragmakwana23]

Hi sir I’ve just started doing my own thing with painting after being pushed away from it for years by friends and family. I just did my first bumper start to finish thank you for the videos you post they helped me a lot

[@thetriggerman954]

That's awesome man congratulations I'm glad you decided to stick with it and glad I could be a part of your journey.

[@polo-92]

Always sprayed wet since I started watching you and I keep learning more from every video, keep up the good work trig

[@thetriggerman954]

@@polo-92 🫡 good to hear. Glad the videos are helping.

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

*An old timer told me 1 time ...* *_"The day you get outta bed and that day you don't learn nothin well that's a day you should have just stayed in bed."_*

[@thetriggerman954]

😂 I like that one. 💯

[@grantssmartrepairs]

100% agree with ya never too old to learn 👍👍👍👍👍 great video mate im well behind with ya video's playing cath up 👊👊👊👊

[@thetriggerman954]

Better late than never. Thanks brother 👊🏼

[@scottstapel5889]

Always 💯. I spray water and I spray wet! Wet on the metallic’s is a must. Tight overlaps with water base.

[@92boostedh22]

Excellent video and well stated. I think beginners with different guns also need to look at is the pattern their gun is spraying at so they can determine their overlap and gun distance. If you have more of a SATA O-pattern you really need to move. Gun distance is key no matter what gun to determine how wet is wet

[@Icandothatalsow]

I spray wet because I am impatient. Who knew I do it the trigger way. 💪

[@bradsrestorations1085]

Trigger, you are an excellent teacher! Thank you for giving your knowledge to everyone.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Brad you are more than welcome.

[@UsmanKhalid-u3u]

Trigger man you main man 💯

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Khalid 🫡

[@runningman00900]

Thanks, Triggerman, another great video.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you for watching, man 💪🏼

[@doug2993]

Hey brother, I only found you a day or two ago. You respond to pretty much everyone. Which makes a true nut job, lol. Just want to tell you that I love you, and Happy New Year. Love you in the Lord.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@doug2993 takes one to know one 🤪 happy new year bro 🎊 God bless ❤️🙏🏼

[@carlosflores6572]

Great video Triggerman!

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you.

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Hey Trigger, it's always ok to change, it's a good thing it means you/we are learning different techniques to improve to get it done better or faster, it seems that this trade is one of the few that no matter how long you've been doing it you can always learn something new this is why we all have our own way of doing it👌spray on brother and never change, keep upload those videos🙏🙏👍John UK

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you John much appreciated my friend ❤️💪🏼

[@keithmoore1354]

Happy new year to you and your family thank you for great tips and info

[@thetriggerman954]

@@keithmoore1354 you're more than welcome Keith. Happy new year my man. Have a blessed one

[@bosshawg7427]

Ummm...yeah. I caught that. My credit goes to Trigger, the first to recommend wet. Not calling anyone out, but I watch a lot of videos and to back this up, I tried a small repair of metallic wet, and it worked fine, in fact, better than relying on using basecoat blender (clear base, binder, etc). That one tip as well as others has really helped me step up my skills and increasing speed while being able to handle faster guns now is one of them. By the way.. my next goal is to master the LPH400 on HS clear so I can take somebody's ole lady! 💪🏾 Thank you, Triggerman!

[@thetriggerman954]

Lmao 🤣🤣 you dirty dog you. Lol thanks man. And I'm glad it worked for you. It'll definitely help you instead of relying on base coat blender. Like I've said many times. I never used that base coat blender until I started on KZbin old school painters never used that stuff we just learned to paint correctly. There's only one other old school painter on here that I saw that actually knew this and it was " paintwork by jr " that guy knows his stuff. He doesn't make videos often but he really knows his shit. Not taking anything away from anyone else but It was a breath of fresh air to see someone who really knows his shit. Thank you for chiming in BH I appreciate you brother ❤️🫡

[@srodgie]

Brilliant explanation, Trigger! Experience always shows! Bless you Brother! Steve 😎 👍

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Steve. And as always you are appreciated my man 💪🏼

[@ExFilHobbies]

Trigger your timing is perfect on this video. A week ago I did some bmw paint work with Titanium silver and had a much better outcome and coverage when I did two consecutive coats vs screwing with base coat blender using pot shop line 👍

[@ExFilHobbies]

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[@SegaGenesis501]

“I’ve been watching my buddy (Trigger Man) and in the water base system sounds a lot better. Nice edit Trigger lol!

[@thetriggerman954]

😉😬 thanks man. 😅

[@johnsutter1497]

Thank you for the video. Happy New Year!

[@thetriggerman954]

🫡 happy new year

[@erickt2665]

Sprayed a silver 69 Coronet, wouldn’t have been able to do it without your tips bro 💯

[@thetriggerman954]

@@erickt2665 🫡 awesome

[@thetriggerman954]

@@erickt2665 I watched the clip. Awesome. And thank you 💪🏼

[@chriscurry236]

If we stop learning new things, then we are no longer doing our job's, has been my thoughts on anything I do, bodywork,prep , painting,heck , even applies to mechanical work I do also 👍

[@thetriggerman954]

💯 You are absolutely right. Even though I suck at wrenching 😬 but I'm always open to learning. 🫡

[@vridaw]

Can you make a quick video on what it means to spray wet? "Wet vs. Dry" ? How wet is wet? And how wet for each stage? Thanks Trigger!

[@thetriggerman954]

I have like 15 videos on spraying metallics they all talk about it. But I'll try to see if I can get a comparison video done. But spraying them dry will really screw up my job and I'll have to sand it back down, not sure I'm willing to go that day for a video. Maybe I'll try it on some old parts

[@vridaw]

@@thetriggerman954 Thanks for replying man! I am going back and watching every video you've put up. But if you do make that video on how wet is wet...even it's spraying a wall / cardboard... it might even be better for the camera so we can see the paint / pattern better.

[@smarternu]

Wet and fast. It's all about flow.

[@thetriggerman954]

Facts 💯

[@mreightytwenty8709]

Great content mate.......

[@thetriggerman954]

@@mreightytwenty8709 thank you for watching sir 🫡

[@tonydiesel3444]

Cut two legs a bit shorter on the paint stand have a buddy weld on two little heavy duty Caster wheels to the cut legs then you can just roll your panel hood or whatever right out of the shop

[@thetriggerman954]

🤔

[@arthurresendez]

Yes, wet meaning not applying paint dry especially metallics because you'll get the tiger stripes.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@arthurresendez exactly 💯

[@newriver8940]

Back in 1985 I started working at a dealership and my boss told me he would rather see a run than a dry spot.

[@thetriggerman954]

I've known a bunch of painters that lived by that rule. And they run 80% of their jobs lol

[@paulstanley9950]

For me that all depends on temperature here in Canada, I have always sprayed two medium wet coats and more if needed. Wet is better, every brand of paint will be different as well. I am now using 1.2 tips for base coat and 1.3 for clear….i like spaying that really wet :)

[@thetriggerman954]

@@paulstanley9950 most brands are better wet. I sprayed most paint manufacturers and I have yet to come across a paint manufacturer or a paint rep that instructed me spray their metallics down dryer. Even the cheap lower end paint like Omni goes down better when sprayed wet..

[@paulstanley9950]

Urki by Besa is a strange one, I have to over reduce it to get it to lay smooth

[@thetriggerman954]

@@paulstanley9950 never heard of that one. I'll be sure not to buy that one 🥴😂

[@paulstanley9950]

yeah it’s a weird one, but I don’t have many choices lol. I lay the base down and take a nap so it can really flash off😂 I can spray nason really good but it’s tough getting a good match, I find water borne paint really easy to lay down…..makes me happy!! Love your channel man!! I spray as wet as I can but that Urki stuff will pile up on you even using slow reducer

[@mississippiwrenches295]

Trigger man your a beast 🔥🔥🔥 and that was a slick old school that guy and that was some good editing in this video 😂 main thing is keep it wet 📝

[@thetriggerman954]

Thanks my man. Yeah that was a sweet caddy. Dinosaur 🦖🦕🦖🦕🦕 😂

[@mississippiwrenches295]

@@thetriggerman954 yessir I would like to see t what that car looks all together it’s going to be a showstopper

[@thetriggerman954]

@mississippiwrenches295 show stopper and a panty dropper. Might need to slide in the caddy

[@MichiGanjaMook]

" professional pot head/ painter" here lol. good info as usual trigger. people should pay attention more to the tds and classroom time. they will tell you to lay it wet. its metallics! why do people usually have issues with metallics? too dry/ too far away. keep an open mind when painting. Remember the number 1 tool in every painters arsenal is his EYES. cheers trigger. happy new year

[@thetriggerman954]

Thanks man I appreciate that I know you have that third eye. On that gunja you see what no one else can see 👁️

[@beemabuildbodystylingrepai1934]

Great tips trig I paint ppg water/maxmeyer and always paint wet til drop coats.I used to paint solvents in the late 80” 90”s and prefer water myself :) anyways bro we can all learn new things from each other so keeps the tips coming 👍👍👍

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Beema, man I left the dealership in 2011 right when they were installing the fans getting ready to switch to water. I'm a solvent man until the end 😅 Thanks for watching and chiming in

[@wrightsrrt871]

Good video brother 👍

[@gregjames1145]

Trigger man. I love your vids and your El cheapo references. Hilarious 😂😂😂 If it's possible, can you do a vid of how to custom paint a two toned faded in paint job like the older 1996 to 1998 Chevy OBS show trucks? My buddy who paints says you need to set up two spray guns on some sort a cart and make your pass down the side of the truck. You have me very interested and I'm in the stages of prepping for a base over and shooting my clear on my top panels but I'm am lost as to what to do with my existing two toned custom faded paint job on the side panels and tailgate. Help please!!!

[@thetriggerman954]

@@gregjames1145 thanks bro, I actually have a video on my channel. Check it out. It's one of my first. Videos I did on here. Glad you're enjoying the channel.

[@gregjames1145]

@thetriggerman954 Wonderful. Thanks. I'm all over it. Keep up the good work. We love it. Very knowledgeable and entertaining.

[@andrewarren2701]

I haven't hollerd at you in awhile, when you say wet do you mean a little more reducer. I did a silver a couple of months back it turned out a little blotchy on the sides but it turned out pretty Damm good but it was to me blotchy on the sides but the customer really love what I did cause it was shinny ass fuck. But I wasn't happy with it, but they loved it. I did it with the PR0D 717! I'm telling you I'm falling in Love with that Gun.. You can go slow with it or fast! I'm really wanting to invest in a Ws 400 but I have turned out good jobs with my Vevor but that PRD A BADD MUTHA!!

[@thetriggerman954]

@@andrewarren2701 that's great 💪🏼 when I say wet no I'm not talking about more reducer just the application. I don't like to over reduce metallics. It's already hard enough to get it covered and assure you have coverage so thinning it out doesn't work for me. On top of the but if it works for you then that's great. That's the beauty about this stuff what doesn't work for one works perfect for another.

[@diggy561]

Everything wet! Paint, wings, women!

[@thetriggerman954]

Make it wet, like you surfing baby. That thang sit up like two bunk beds. Boss man Dlow style son

[@autowingsthingsmike8954]

Do u use a control coat, after the wet coats ?

[@thetriggerman954]

If it needs it I will do one. Most times after 2-3 wet coats everything looks fine. But if it looks like I need one I'll give it a control coat.

[@asksteevies4941]

Funny thing is I started painting myself Years ago and I always put the base coats on wet, I thought that was normal

[@thetriggerman954]

@@asksteevies4941 consider yourself lucky you started the way it takes most guys years to learn. 💪🏼

[@stephenwhite5444]

You give awesome advice man! Hey do you have any experience with doing spot work with single stage? I've got to spot repair a 1971 original paint car (acrylic enamel single stage) and I need to figure out the best way to blend into the front side of the door without using clear (it'll have a different sheen even with the original paint polished). I've never used single stage but I was thinking maybe 1500 where I'll have solid new paint then spray blender or adhesion promoter on the entire door and feather out over that, then if needed a little more blender on top of the feathered area. Do you think that will adhere good? I thought maybe you'd have some experience with these situations to tell me if that'll be garbage or not. I'll be spraying acrylic enamel single stage.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Steven. And yes I do have a little experience with blending single stage acrylic enamel..what color is the car you're going to be spotting in?

[@stephenwhite5444]

​​@@thetriggerman954it's a medium bold shade of blue.....1971 Mazda R100 color is Mercury Blue (if you want to see it on Google). I REALLY appreciate your advice bro....just me and a buddy, we diy our own stuff but this is a rare collector car we are trying to preserve as original as possible and just spot in some repairs. THANKS! HAPPY NEW YEAR MAN!

[@stephenwhite5444]

​​@@thetriggerman954 seems like reply isn't sticking, I replied right away but it doesn't show up. KZbin is going nuts.....car is a medium bold blue.....very rare 1971 Mazda R100 paint color Mercury Blue Happy New Year man!!!

[@thetriggerman954]

@@stephenwhite5444 you'll basically need to prep the blend area the way I did in this video. 👇🏼 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGPSg51_l72Sb6Msi=mOTkTx3jiXwEAmrd Use a scuff paste, Then Instead of using the aresol can blender use a clear coat blender from a can that you pour into your gun. Mix that with trace amounts of already sprayable activated single stage. Blend the blending agent with the paint into the scuffed area, the scuff will give it enough mechanical bond to adhear. Then give a good polish with NO sanding. Medium speed let the panel warm up from the buffer and it'll melt that finish in. Polish and use a silicone free wax. Then wait 3 weeks. And wax it with a silicone based wax like a carnauba or something and it should be fine. I might just have to make a video on it to make it clear what I'm saying. Hopefully that helps.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@stephenwhite5444 lol damn bro I never heard that one. And I know most of those Oldies. Appreciate you sending that one. I might need to mix it into my intro 😂😎😎

[@Killer-lo3ig]

How many turns on fluid knob for basecoat to be wet but not runny?

[@thetriggerman954]

Depends on the gun, material, temperature, tip size, skill level. Soooo many things play a part

[@suprarace]

I thought if you spray metallics wet it will cause the metallic flakes to float causing a blotchy job. So your saying if you spray it all super wet all the flakes will all float evenly 🤔

[@thetriggerman954]

Medium wet. Not super wet. Spraying them dry cause waayyy more issues than spraying wet.

[@filibertobarrera3839]

Yea been painting for yrs,and would always run short on clearcoat activator,would see the can of clear say 4 to 2 ,and always thought it was 4 parts clear to 2 parts activator,now i now why,on the side of the can it tell you to mix 2 to 1.Yes I felt like a dumb ass.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@filibertobarrera3839 that happens to more people than you'd imagine. Screw ups come with learning.

[@scotthewins5341]

Would you run at that faster speed if you were using a lvlp gun?

[@thetriggerman954]

Yes sir, every LVLP spray gun I've tried and move at the same pace.

[@scotthewins5341]

​@thetriggerman954 thank you!!

[@stevesummers4266]

I have a question for you im going to spray a pearl similar to metallic in my thoughts with clear binder over a dry clear coat would the wet coverage apply in this situation as well you think? I have never sprayed pearl any input would be welcome thanks.

[@thetriggerman954]

I actually have a detailed pearl video set to drop next week Friday. It's already set in que. I'm not sure exactly what your mean as far as spraying over a dry clear coat. Break that down for me if you could please.

[@stevesummers4266]

@thetriggerman954 yes the vehicle dose not need paint just sanding it in 600 grit and spraying clear binder with pearl mixed in then clear coat over that thanks

[@glen440]

The problem on here is people thinking they know it all after watching a couple youtubers. The guy on that other channel never replies to me when I question what he does. He has some bad advice so I stopped watching. I like to see how other painters spray. As for spraying base wet, at akzo imperium training they sprayed close and fast like clear. There were 4 of us and we all sprayed different. I love the fact you don't take any💩

[@thetriggerman954]

@@glen440 thank you Glen. I don't give no shit and I don't take no shit. I feel like that's fair 😉 and you're absolutely right.

[@Lawnfella]

So no drop coat with metallics just two wet coats?

[@thetriggerman954]

If it needs a drop coat then give it a drop coat. And you'll definitely want to give more than two coats of metallic. Some areas have a climate that's so hot the painters aren't not even able to do a drop coat. So it all depends on your environment look at the panel and determine what it needs.

[@zZZSPARKZZz]

Hey trigger man I am struggling with silvers too. I primed and sanded 600 and 800 super smooth with guide coat. But then had a few break through. So I sealed the whole panel. When I went to base. It was had mottle and was uneven seems like a the sealer went on Orange peely. Could see the peel in the silver metallic if you understand like dark craters of metallic? Any help please my man?

[@thetriggerman954]

Yes I completely understand what you mean. Like I said in videos in the past your most important step is going to be your sealer it's pretty much impossible to have a non-pely finish when you put down peely sealer. Only three things you can really do 1 try not to burn through your primer and don't use sealer. 2 use a better gun that will give you a flatter sealer finish. 3 if none of that works find a different sealer that goes down smoother for you or maybe even add a little more reducer to your sealer so that it flows out better for you. Hope that helps

[@zZZSPARKZZz]

@thetriggerman954 thank you man makes sense. Your the MAN!!

[@tonydiesel3444]

Wett wett forever

[@thetriggerman954]

@@tonydiesel3444 🙌🏼

[@glossworx617]

🔥🔥

[@ardlehatley8253]

wet is the only way i know

[@thetriggerman954]

@@ardlehatley8253 that's what she said 😉

[@ItsOfficialw]

Pro painter 😂😂

[@thetriggerman954]

😂😂😂 is that you? 🧐 😅😅🫵🏼🫵🏼🫵🏼

[@ItsOfficialw]

@ no sirrrrr! Shit I said for you too paint my car and u told me to do it no pro painter 😂😂

[@Icandothatalsow]

What happened to that nerdy white trigger. 😂

[@Icandothatalsow]

Oh yeah pro painter here. 😁

[@thetriggerman954]

🥹😅

[@lukeowens3544]

I told you … you are the top dog on KZbin right now. Mr 500,000 subscribers just said so in your video 🤣 🤘

[@thetriggerman954]

Appreciate that, brother. 🙏 You did say that 😅😅 man you're crazy. Thank you

[@92boostedh22]

Excellent video and well stated. I think beginners with different guns also need to look at is the pattern their gun is spraying at so they can determine their overlap and gun distance. If you have more of a SATA O-pattern you really need to move. Gun distance is key no matter what gun to determine how wet is wet

[@thetriggerman954]

💯 correct everything has to be taken into consideration for a wet even application