Scaler 2 + reMIDI 2 = Insane Functionality & Endless Possibilities

[@davidecarbonemusic]

Great video Joshua and this really demos the strengths of both those excellent plugs.

[@911truthfarmer]

If I am not mistaken, you can then save the manipulated MIDI data output from Scaler then bring it back into reMIDI and mangle it again and create a related part. Endless possibilities. Totally cool brofriend.

[@straighttalk2069]

Just bought these two in a bundle and my mind is blown.

[@isajoha9962]

Cool, that you credited 41 Fingers, I watched his videos months ago.

[@Aleamanic]

Speaks to the genius of the old masters (of classical music) that their pieces lend themselves to sampling of catchy random hooks ;-) I wish reMIDI's parameters such as frame length would be remote controllable via MIDI CC.

[@kwaddamage8286]

Scaler2 is an absolute masterpiece of software. anyone interested in creating music of any form should embrace it. Watching this video and seeing the concept of ReMIDI gave me a ton of ideas, but i immediately realized all of this is possible without ReMIDI. I am sure all of us have the old zip files of 100 thousand midi files etc. They have been going around the internet for over a decade. All of these classical compositions are in those archives. In ableton/bitwig you could put splices of those within a grid and choose specifically the launch quanitization and which ones will stop each other or layer on each other. Within the piano roll and a DAW you can do as much multiplying of time or slicing as you need. ReMIDI 2 has some cool ideas, but it nothing you can't already do if you know your way around editing midi and utilizing scenes within ableton and bitwig -> scaler2 It has value in terms of convenience maybe, but not power. I do think a "midi drum machine" is something bitwig could implement in the future. i am going to show them this software and hopefully it inspires them. it would be cool to have a single NoteFX Layer with a grid of different midi clips you could play. And have all the same in-depth settings as scenes..

[@41Fingers]

Hey guys, Thanks so much for the link!. So great we have these tools to work with.

[@PluginBoutiqueOfficial]

Thanks for sharing your wonderful idea! Keep rockin :) - JC

[@jeskirkup8214]

I watched your videos last week. Helped me a lot 😊

[@ishagshafeeg]

You are a genius. Both plugins together just exploded the horizon of composing options. Thanks

[@rajramki_RrMusix]

41 Fingers is truly a genius! I watch his videos all the time. I am really glad plugin boutique gave him credits. Kudos guys!

[@duartecancela]

What a cool time to be alive, this is amazing! Thank you guys 👍

[@DopamineOverload]

reMIDI 2 getting some love!!

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

Ok, thanks this cleared up the confusion with 41Fingers video

[@lawrencediggs7957]

Can you show how to set this up in Logic Pro X?

[@whylie2029]

Thats wassup you gave credit. I was just looking at this. Crazy possibilities

[@iamYork_]

Will this technique work in Cubase 12?

[@international360photograph4]

Hope for a Option for the Setup of Logic X i do Not know how to send Remidi to the Scaler and from there to a specific other Instrument.

[@robertpeveler2133]

My only question - how do you then turn this into something that sounds like actual music?

[@NihilQuest]

LOL, exactly. Cool idea, but none of this sounded good.

[@raysewell7279]

I haven’t got the internal sound button in settings. How do I mute?

[@Bronwyn031]

I'm kinda late to this video but just to let everyone know, the "Captain Chords" plugin allows you to do this but with original MIDI notes you come up with rather than downloading someone else's MIDI performance. I've been using it to drive Scaler 2 then to actually play my Roland Fantom 8's V-Piano or Jupiter 8 tone modes.

[@PluginBoutiqueOfficial]

You can easily do this as well with Scalar. Just play in the MIDI or use your own MIDI clips either with reMIDI or just with Scaler. What's cool about reMIDI are the controls you have with "sampling" and manipulating the MIDI. - JC

[@wartonnosound]

Great video, awesome info. Do you know if there is an easy way to do this in Logic Pro X?

[@JoelLeppard]

Nicely done! I'm def sold on those two plugins... checking them out

[@ContentScientist]

how do you export MIDI data into the track itself?

[@jamisbillson6282]

Where is the VST that has just 1 big Red knob that you press that generates a whole new song? We could then get rid of the rest of the human factors in making music.

[@ArielTavori]

This is fantastic, thanks for sharing! Fyi, these also work great with Orb Producer Suite as well as Venmode Phraseabox!..

[@crisisbliss2462]

for the most part it did not sound good, where are you getting it sounds phenomenal

[@davidfox6501]

Hi, late to the video as well - have used both separately so far. How would you go about feeding reMidi into Scaler into VI in Logic Pro X? Both as Midi FX of the instrument or through side chaining but on separate tracks? Help is appreciated!

[@BaileyJim11]

yes. remidi and scaler on one track as midi fx. add whatever instrument you want on the same track. Bingo. :)

[@BARTISHERE]

2:53 , the moment when you pass down the midi to the next track, how would I accomplish this in Reason 11?

[@jamelzer0]

This is so cool I’m absolutely buying this and adding into my writing template.

[@JamesMyddelton]

Very powerful, thanks, sold !

[@LuisTorres-qz5kr]

Just ran into this video, this plugin combo is awesome! I have Scalar, yet, 1st time I heard of reMIDI. Will need to check it out & see if any deals are going on. Thanks!

[@issiewizzie]

I say stack 4 scaler … same scale …split as bass melody chords …and then press keyboards and see the amazing stuff come out

[@cymbals1111]

Great idea! 👍 thanks.

[@AdaptiveDevelopementPlatform]

Don't do this in FL Studio. LOL. You will crash FL Studio. Sadly the way FL Studio deals with midi, it is a pain to even set things up lol. You can do it but you will be using twice as much cpu as it will be sending the midi twice. Just tried this Izzy and... I am getting that free bandlab thing lol. Just so I can do this right.

[@jamesjr2550]

@@AdaptiveDevelopementPlatform how would u do it

[@AdaptiveDevelopementPlatform]

@@jamesjr2550 I would use something like Reaper, Studio One, Bandlab's Cakewalk or Sonar really. FL Studio just does Midi a bit differently;y or I may be doing something wrong.

[@nigelstewart7920]

Yes, it would be very straightforward in Reaper.

[@uiliumpowell4684]

🙂Thanks for the teaching. Can you play a MIDI part like you would play a sample on the keyboard so it transposes in scale on all the keys? Then you can play a MIDI motif up and down the keyboard and maybe put different MIDI motifs for each octave. Another set up that I haven't seen would be if you could have a different motif for each key and then there is a special octave that applies MIDI effects to the motifs in real time like transposing them, rescaling, reversing, inversing, straightening and so on. I mean, that would be some advanced improvisation.

[@konstantinereminmusicman26]

Wonderfull, but how collaborate ReMidi+Scaller+VST in Reaper?

[@junkjunky5436]

Simple. Use them all on the same track in your FX. Done like dinner.

[@guitboxgeek]

Nice idea and remidi seems pretty cool. I do this same thing using xfer records' Cthulhu!

[@djba]

Thanks for the video. It sounds like these software packages would be great candidates for a Plugin Boutique bundle. You could even use this video as a promo. Just a thought. 🙏😉🙏

[@straighttalk2069]

Just bought these two in a bundle and they were cheaper than if I'd bought Scaler2 on it's own.

[@ziadkhalaf198]

now feed scaler 2 into Divisimate and then feed that into Spitfire Symphony Orchestra and throw in a number of instruments and might just wake Bach up

[@adknon9631]

All good, but I miss one feature: It would be great, when Scaler would be smart and would transpose "wrong" played notes which are not in the chords to one note in the chrord (like the good old Schwarzonator)

[@FSK2]

Thanks for inspiration ☺️

[@PluginBoutiqueOfficial]

My pleasure 😊 - JC

[@nuuality]

Really cool the ways to use it...thanks for sharing! One off topic question:What Ableton Skin do you use..please tell me, cause it looks so incredible good!

[@nuuality]

If anyone know the skin, please give me a hint where to find it

[@MikaKotikoski]

Is it me, but actually the chords added don't sound very good...

[@hookflash699]

Did you watch the whole vid? It sounds much better when he sends the Remidi output to Kontakt, imo, especially when he uses it to trigger multiple instruments at the same time.

[@212ceilingfaceOFFICIAL]

Can't figure out how to do this on FL. Anyone got it?

[@toe7182]

route midi. little cogwheel topleft corner of each plugin. second tab. here is what i did (doesn't mean it works for you): remidi: midi output port channel 1 scaler: midi input port channel 1 optional: scaler: midi output port 2 vst of your choice: midi input port 2 hope this helps.

[@brianmi40]

You can take this to another level, by inserting an ARPEGGIATOR like Kirnu Cream or Cthulu after Scaler!

[@junkjunky5436]

You can do this inside Scaler 2 now

[@goatnamese]

I spent a couple days trying to figure out what "41 fingers" was a reference to. I think it finally dawned on me. If you count your 10 toes as fingers, that's 40. Wonder where that last finger could be..

[@ademcfade]

nose ;-)

[@mitchminimal6942]

The fact that you only need 1 finger to play your composition after you’ve created it using these tools?

[@bosmarth]

Interesting tool. Though musically, the exemples in the video are quite terrible.

[@bitflux2]

awesome stuff, more vids like these!

[@doug941]

This looks exciting! I just purchased Remidi 2 last night! I am a Logic Pro X user.....is it possible to use both Remidi 2 and Scaler 2 together?

[@mamdohahmed4278]

please link ableton theme you use 🙏?

[@michelmoalem]

Quick note. Love remidi but there are some midi files in the jazz folder of remidi that I highly doubt are public domain

[@bigdap100]

Really wanted to download ReMidi, but the download is always “Blocked” and labeled “unsafe.”

[@PluginBoutiqueOfficial]

Where are you downloading it from? - JC

[@bigdap100]

@@PluginBoutiqueOfficial The Plug-in Boutique website.

[@olymoon2008]

I image what can be done splitting the midi and sending it to different instruments... :0

[@SheldonTam]

So basically, we can feed any MIDI notes and sequences to Scaler 2, and make them conform to a particular key of my choice.

[@PluginBoutiqueOfficial]

That is correct. reMIDI has a massive library of full songs in MIDI written by some of the most celebrated composers of all time. Add to that the ability to quickly sample from different sections and manipulate them just as fast and you got something special :) - JC

[@SheldonTam]

@@PluginBoutiqueOfficial Thanks JC, really cool!

[@corvoattano3760]

Daaaaamn Sauce

[@kenjones7978]

He forgot to say that you can add your own midi files as well ?

[@Mario-Gard]

Totally Insane!!!

[@eamonnw]

im thinking Bach actually composed this way using strips of paper and a hat, like remidi, you can chop up some Bach and put it randomly back together and it still sounds like Bach to my ear

[@Semtex777]

It's like a scaled down Synfire

[@prophismusic]

Ripchord is free and does the same thing as reMidi i think

[@Bezowinz]

Then combine them i to a single plugin. Cool stuff though.

[@TrueFakeNews]

Dont get it ^^

[@mimidamimida7931]

It's really interesting.

[@OilRacki]

Very, very cool.

[@ianbrown1474]

Great video - really interesting possibilities :) just a couple of comments. I think songwish pronounce it “remedy” and sadly the current version (v2) doesn’t run on M1 macs. Hoping an update will come soon.

[@Ambitiouz_mindset]

Wow!

[@actionjacksongaming]

They are definitely using this wrong this is such a dope concept

[@user-dg8lb4vd2w]

🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@PluginBoutiqueOfficial]

indeed!! - JC

[@DueerdDee]

holy s#$############ woww! ty good sir. \o/

[@spokansas]

This!

[@mufcmusic8514]

7:30

[@LightWingStudios]

PSYCHED! :)

[@constair]

То что мне было нужно. Куплю!

[@pdeswardt]

Might be cool, but sounded terrible

[@sergeypetrushev3192]

Finally it sounds terrible hehe

[@darrelljohnston562]

Is it just me or does it sound weird?

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

I mean... compound leveraging can be cool IF.... IF something works.... And perhaps my music theory is REEEaaaaalllly bad.... BUT, that sounded like a toddler clanging on a piano to me. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but "Sounds absolutely phenomenal" is NOT how it sounds to me. YIKES!!! Again not trying to be a jerk people. I am only 10 months into learning about production. But, I am raising to ask other people's opinions to ask them if I am absolutely alone in this, or whether others agree. Please share your true and objective opinions with me.

[@youngamerican100]

The chords sounded off to me as well

[@williamaltizer8237]

sorry man I like music made from the heart and soul of a human. And I like music with mistakes too, the beauty in perfection. Like when you mistakenly play notes outside the key and discover that it works so wonderfully. And the syncopation man, what is music without it? it's robotic that's what... Not putting down scaler and remidi I think they can be useful tools when used sparingly.

[@issiewizzie]

More more

[@YassDavid]

That’s a really ugly melodic midi samples. Wish you pick something better Lol otherwise great job.

[@alexandersorbas1881]

He must be tone deaf

[@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy]

I can see the quality of mainstream music further going down the drain. I am gonna continue learning theory and use it to apply to my creativity. While the presenter Joshua seems really excited at the prospect of this plugin, he himself is a really good pianist and possibly a composer too and wont need all this. Btw EZKEys has been manipulating midi, internal and external, for a while now, inside one single plugin.

[@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy]

@@LightWingStudios I just dont need anything else than ezkeys. For me it does everything that is shown in this video.

[@LightWingStudios]

@@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy No it doesn't. Let me suggest you download the Scaler DEMO, try it for a few days and then get back to all of us.

[@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy]

@@LightWingStudios Yes it does. I have both of them. I compose by theory and ear, so I dont really need scaler. Ezkeys manipulates midi like crazy. You can feed it any midi and it will let you repurpose the scale, key, progression etc. Also the midi bank of ezkeys is huge. Although its primarily a piano and keys plugin so the ezkeys midi performances are for non electronic music mostly. But can be used anywhere. Watch the Mgthefuture videos on ezkeys. He goes in really deep with what you can do with ezkeys. He even clubs it with scaler.

[@LightWingStudios]

@@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy Are there close to 15 VIs included with EZKeys? No. Does EZKeys have a Chord Extractor from Audio files? No. You say you don't need Scaler because of your knowledge and skill set. Fine... but why do you need EZKeys to begin with if that knowledge is so great? Scaler is a MUCH BETTER MUSIC & THEORY LEARNING TOOL for alot of people who DO NOT have the knowledge or skill set. As a matter of fact that is the PRIMARY reason it was created to begin with.

[@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy]

@@LightWingStudios I need ez keys because I cant play the piano. I play the guitar. Ez keys has 8 different keys and piano instruments which have 10 to 15 editable sound presets each. And for audio to chord extraction to chord track I have studio one daw, it works seamlessly. Scalar is not bad, it's just that it's not as straightforward as ezkeys to get a finished unique midi performance.

[@gkillmaster]

Thanks for the tip, however, this doesn't work for me. I can't get the incoming notes from my DAW to be mapped to the Scaler scale. (And it also plays the chords along with the incoming notes which I wish i could turn off. Thanks for the video and any tips on how I can get this to work correctly.

[@eroommy]

Incorrect use of Scaler2, resulting in musical chaos ...