Scoped Carbine Competition 101: Great Tool for the Minuteman Marksman

In this special Hatchet Cast episode Eric has a conversation with two members of the Barrel & Hatchet community to talk about the basics of gas gun matches and their specific load outs, they use for training and competitions. Competitions are a great way to test your metal and see if your equipment and training has paid off. Best three ways to support us is to come train with us, pick up some gear from our website and from our affiliates using the links and codes below. Make sure you follow Barrel & Hatchet on our other social media platforms to stay up to date on what is happening in the Barrel & Hatchet community. Welcome to Barrel & Hatchet Trade Group.
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[@Aibotcomment]

One day i plan to get out there and participate. Thank you for offering things like this to the 2A community. You all are awesome. Keep PEWPEWING test your limits.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Awesome man, and keep training and thanks for being apart of the BHTG community

[@robvigesaa5738]

Fantastic video. Lots of value here. Thanks for putting this together, and for featuring Matt and Joseph.

[@BuckF0eJiden]

If youre running flip up scope caps, laminate some round cards that fit inside the scope cap with your dope numbers. Print them, cut them out and then sandwich them between clear packing tape on the cheap. Its right in front of your eye, and unless you're running ACOG eye relief, youll be able to see it with the same eye youre shooting with.

[@SantosGunworks]

I quickly learned what works and what doesn’t after my first few matches. Some guys however, are too stubborn to change some of their equipment. I swapped out my 1.93” mount to a 1.54” mount. I got an Arca rail piece by the barrel nut area and two pieces of Arca rail up front (keep the bottom of the Handguard as flat as possible without any VFG or hand stops). I left the middle open so I can grab the Handguard better. I also learned that the NX8 1-8 with the FC-DMx reticle is an amazing scope and works great for long range and also close range at my 3-gun matches, which was contrary to all the internet hate for it. As much as I love the setup that I have, I ordered a 4-16 ATACR and I’ll be competing in the SPR/DMR division next year.

[@submoa9278]

A lot of people ditch their tall mounts, and also foregrips etc when they play this game.

[@robvigesaa5738]

I'm glad that you liked your NX8 with the FC-DMx. I just installed one on my 14.5 and am about to try it out!

[@rohanmeilor]

This was really interesting and means a lot to me as a self trained shooter. I will be looking for more of this type of competition in my area.

[@trevorhawkins8757]

I've seen Matt in gun groups on Facebook for years, he always seems to have a wealth of knowledge to share.

[@submoa9278]

Nah…I front.

[@user-yd3uh4pz5e]

Could y’all do a video regarding physical fitness and breathing when shooting a rifle? Appreciate it!

[@BuckF0eJiden]

Also. If you're running a top dot, factor that height over bore into your zero. My SPR pushes 75 gr HPBT match rounds from Hornady at 2900 fps. My top dot is at +4.75" over bore (measure from center line of bore to the center of the glass on your optic if you're unsure) and the zero i run is 75 yds. Its incredibly flat out to 300 with that combo, and running a 2 moa dot ensures you can cover a 6" target at 300 and score a hit.

[@BuckF0eJiden]

My load is 23.7 grains of IMR 8208 XBR under those Hornady match projectiles with CCI small magnum rifle primers. Pressure IS above listed max for .223, so use that at your own risk. COAL is 2.235

[@Chief74]

Looking forward to coming across and taking the Scoped Carbine Course this Winter. For the Gas Gun Competition are you allowed to use a short stroke piston 5.56 like my LWRC M6? Or does it have to be a conventional DI? Tried to research the rules for the Precision Rifle Series, here in Florida, but didn’t really find an answer.

[@misternitro1]

Piston gun is ok

[@barrelandhatchet]

You can use a piston. This last Barrel & Hatchet match, some guys were using 5.56 AK’s. Just has to be semi, and 5.56

[@philliplopez1501]

17:48 Why the velocity cap on 556 SPR? Would seem as though any 18/20 barrel would be pushing close to that 3200 cap? That's far from a race gun. And it's kind of the purpose of the SPR. Definitely fighting rifle territory.

[@LtG510]

Could be so they don’t beat up steel targets too much. Really only certain 55gr and under would reach that velocity from a 20in.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Most of your heavy grain stuff like match 69 or 75-77 go about 2700 maybe in 28-2900 but that is rare and that’s out of an 18inch. The only Time we have ever seen a round break that 3200 FPS is when we ran M855A1 out of a mk12 and holy hell, it was HOT, it was clocking about 3150-3220 out of the chrono. However it was also shooting groups that we’re minute of man. So yea you can get the speeed but most of the time your BC and SD, will it be pretty, which makes it not the best choice for accuracy at distance.

[@philliplopez1501]

@@barrelandhatchet I very much appreciate the timely and candid response. Thank you. I have set my rifle up to work with 55/62 grain common military rounds for compatibility reasons. I had always figured the 77 would be a welcome + in accuracy. Now I'll have to get some and give it a try just for fun.

[@richardschafer7858]

Ok...Stealing the string for the bipod. Damn good idea!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Yeah man!

[@submoa9278]

It’s a great trick, I forget who I saw do it first, but I like it better than a pull string that gets caught on stuff.

[@brazzy1467]

Larue triggers have gone up. They are now $115 but they are cheaper than the Geissele trigger.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Dang inflation

[@mattfleming86]

Still worth 115! And definitely worth 125 when you put the JP springs behind it...

[@m4e1supremacy]

its the new build back better economy prices lol

[@brazzy1467]

@@m4e1supremacy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnkrstyen]

Really when did they go up? Got one last week for $87

[@the_anton_kabanov]

Hahaha I've taken a few classes with Woody 😂. Great shooter

[@JGoodZX6R]

My vortex Ranger 1300 does just fine out to 800 yards on full size and 2/3 size IPSC steel. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LightspeedHiring-us9xd]

What’s a good calculator?

[@josephting8806]

The Applied Ballistics calculator is one of the best, costs around $30 but its worth it if you run sierra bullets.

[@dustyrhodes1655]

Wouldn't small hand just make other things appear bigger? 😂 Great video gents!

[@barrelandhatchet]

You got that right!

[@CowabungaTheHun]

If I have an M-Lok Magpul bipod, is there an attachment of some kind I can use to make it QD, or do I need to buy a new bipod entirely?

[@henney113]

Check out Seekins quick attach bipod mount. Been running one for a short time now with a Harris bipod. So far so good. The attach/release mechanism is pretty stiff but so far has a great lockup on BCM hand guard 👍🏻

[@KevinWood44]

18.5oz handguard....why? You can get a much lighter Midwest Combat Handguard and add an arca rail and save half a pound.

[@cornpopwasabaddude4188]

Im interested in getting into competitive shooting, but i dont know where to find them

[@submoa9278]

Practiscore

[@katana258]

the bag makes it all b/s game

[@barrelandhatchet]

If you wanted you could bring out an assault pack that you use for your preparedness and use that. We actually have tons of guys who only shoot off their back packs.

[@katana258]

i am in daytona area ..when you said volusia i was wondering where it was @@barrelandhatchet

[@nexthubbins]

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[@tstrongarm77]

👆

[@ricardberberi]

And 4.45 lol

[@ExplorinInTheWoods]

Poortex gayzer

[@barrelandhatchet]

You spotted it lol

[@bornfuct]

Lost me at dude sprinting at crowd of dudes muzzling all of them..what if rambo tripped?

[@maverickmartinez7776]

that's why his muzzle was pointed at the berm with his finger off the trigger....

[@submoa9278]

Muzzle discipline is taken very seriously at Jtac.

[@counselingpsychology]

Been shooting with that Rambo every week for 2 years and he’s never muzzled anyone. I have seen him trip though.