Scott Hall - The 123 Kid Upset Win on Monday Night Raw

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Scott Hall discusses how the 123 Kid upset was pitched to him by Vince McMahon and the reasoning behind it. Stream New Shoot Interviews 📺 TitleMatchNetwo...
RIP to the late-great Scott Hall. Here the Bad Guy talks about one of his most famous matches against Sean Waltman (aka 123 Kid, X-Pac, Syxx).
According to Scott, Vince McMahon was planning on turning Razor Ramon babyface since the crowd was really getting behind him. Instead of doing it the old fashioned way, he came up with the idea to have the former Lightning Kid (now the 123 Kid) beat Razor in a major upset.
Find out from Scott how the wrestlers in the locker room reacted and how the storyline continued. This feud was one of the coolest things from the entire Monday Night Raw series.
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@TitleMatchWrestling
@TitleMatchWrestling 4 ай бұрын
RIP to the late-great Scott Hall Stream the Full Shoot Interview (2007) ➡titlematchnetwork.com/wrestling-shoot-interviews-results/
@jjfromthebigland781
@jjfromthebigland781 4 ай бұрын
Hard work pays off Dreams come true Bad times don't last But bad guys do
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 4 ай бұрын
"After a certain number of years, they just started liking Razor" It was about 6 months, Chico lol
@BruceMichaelFilms
@BruceMichaelFilms 4 ай бұрын
Was he really only a heel for six months?
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 4 ай бұрын
@@BruceMichaelFilmsYes. Debuted in August of 92. Started getting cheered around Feb/March of 93
@BruceMichaelFilms
@BruceMichaelFilms 4 ай бұрын
@@Nostalgia9478 That's what happens when you ooze machismo.
@OikPoinFive
@OikPoinFive 4 ай бұрын
​@Nosthalgia478 he was heel years prior in wcw. Maybe they count those 2 prior wcw heel yr(s) of diamond studd who had the toothpick & the coolness b4 wwf Aug 92.
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 4 ай бұрын
@@OikPoinFive That wasnt Razor Ramon, Bro.. Hall was specifically talking about fans starting to like Razor "after a couple of years" Its cool. He misremembered, like most Wrasslers do lol
@DavidGBrooks
@DavidGBrooks 4 ай бұрын
Wish Scott Hall was still with us. Remember when kid beat him, was shocker at the time
@winstoncannady4224
@winstoncannady4224 4 ай бұрын
What really made the angle work was that the 4 previous weeks The Kid would wrestle in a losing effort but he went by a different name each time. Lightning kid, kamikazi kid etc. Then he gets a fluke win and off to the races
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 4 ай бұрын
The whole angle was very well done
@traptnadream6995
@traptnadream6995 4 ай бұрын
I miss razor. He's so underrated when it comes to being one of the best all time as all around package.
@oscarrobledo547
@oscarrobledo547 4 ай бұрын
It was a great moment on Raw
@greense65
@greense65 4 ай бұрын
I remember Razor being in that program against DiBiase at the time and DiBiase being a big one mocking Razor for his loss to the Kid. Didn't DiBiase do a match on TV a few weeks later to show "how easy it was to beat the Kid" and, after giving the Kid a cocky beatdown for a while, trying a lazy pin and end up getting rolled and pinned by the Kid himself?
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 4 ай бұрын
yes
@sstrykert
@sstrykert 4 ай бұрын
Via crucifix as Dibiase laid back selling overconfidence.
@Vetal83
@Vetal83 4 ай бұрын
man i miss Scott Hall he was my favorite wrestling personality back in them NWO days!
@acehangman617
@acehangman617 4 ай бұрын
I remember that 1-2-3 Kid match. Was blown away and surprised and he absolutely mad it look believable, like he was just caught offguard by the moonsault.
@EGarrett01
@EGarrett01 4 ай бұрын
The knee-to-the-head was perfect. Added total credibility to it. Looked like a freak accident that knocked Razor out.
@jfayiii
@jfayiii 4 ай бұрын
This man should be alive and in charge of WWE.
@wethriveIn425
@wethriveIn425 4 ай бұрын
Heel vs Heel, the fans will almost always go with the guy they believe is tougher.
@thepunditspundit1776
@thepunditspundit1776 4 ай бұрын
Yup. Also, Razor never did the chickenshit heel thing, so the fans knew he was dangerous. Now he’s dangerous and cool
@godeatgod666
@godeatgod666 4 ай бұрын
Especially because it was a NYC crowd.
@heyyou9693
@heyyou9693 4 ай бұрын
It was like on a Saturday night main event in late 1986 between Jake and Savage. Heel vs heel. Savage more cocky vs Jake as more of a tough guy. I'm sure Vince wanted Randy to turn face, but fans got behind Jake. Good stuff here.
@garethcullen9604
@garethcullen9604 4 ай бұрын
I would absolutely love to see that Shawn vs. Razor, heel vs. Heel match at MSG. It would be amazing!!
@thepunditspundit1776
@thepunditspundit1776 4 ай бұрын
Shawn as a heel was an insufferable bastard. You know they would want the Cuban Mob Boss looking guy to tear his head off
@GoldBawls
@GoldBawls 4 ай бұрын
So they booked this angle six months in advance, and it was far more memorable than when they were writing the show during the show. It’s almost like that worked better🤔
@gilmourwaters
@gilmourwaters 4 ай бұрын
Man I miss Scott 🙏🙏
@trebillis7399
@trebillis7399 4 ай бұрын
I was at the DiBiase Summer Slam Match.. good to hear him talk about it and how much that match meant to him. The one thing that surprises me is they were concerned about Razor’s popularity then why wait 6 months to change it?
@The_Zilli
@The_Zilli 2 ай бұрын
In the time of weekly squashy matches, the 123 Kid beating Razor was certainly a shock to us wrestling fans. One, if not, the best ways to ever introduce a wrestler to the fans.
@xsqrewfacex
@xsqrewfacex 4 ай бұрын
I swear I thought razor was going to lose his mind, the unbelievable skill of this man. He was so good I bought all his bullshit😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 pray the lord look over him for the good he done making people happy
@oriondx72
@oriondx72 4 ай бұрын
Totally forgot about how they used to do a 20 count for outside the ring. They went to a 10 count but was slower so in the end even out.
@mikec3260
@mikec3260 3 ай бұрын
The 123 Kid take down and the energy that followed was an epic moment to watch on tv as a kid. I was blown away by the take down lol. Easily one of my 10 ten fav memories/matches to watch as a kid.
@markula_4040
@markula_4040 4 ай бұрын
Probably the most creative way to have a guy turn face plus it got over another wrestler in the process with the 123 Kid. Really wish they tried more creative ways to turn guys these days instead of the same 3 variations over and over and over again.
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 4 ай бұрын
the crowd always sides with the tougher heel.
@OikPoinFive
@OikPoinFive 4 ай бұрын
Grrrr!
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 4 ай бұрын
Hmm. I think i saw a Hbk vs Skinner heel vs heel match.. Fans sided with Hbk
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 4 ай бұрын
@@Nostalgia9478 that's different, skinner was an underneath guy, that's a different dynamic. also not established in the fans eyes to be tougher per se eiether
@JoshuaTraffanstedt
@JoshuaTraffanstedt 2 ай бұрын
Wrestling in the 70s, 80s, and 90s had to be one of the greatest careers a guy could have. Pretty awesome how great of friends kevin Nash, Scott Hall, xpac, triple H, and shawn michaels are/were (rip hall). I always wanted to be a pro wrestler as a kid, but unfortunately I just didn't have the genetics. What a great business.
@dustyflair
@dustyflair 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if the old ref was BRONCO? that guy was 125 still ref matches.
@theSuperviLLain_est
@theSuperviLLain_est Ай бұрын
He did the same match for a young Tanahashi in New Japan in 2001
@dmgd509
@dmgd509 4 ай бұрын
Loved gcw..
@bobnewhart4318
@bobnewhart4318 Ай бұрын
Vince certainly an eye for what the people wanted to see
@bobtaylor3945
@bobtaylor3945 4 ай бұрын
Cool 😎
@wesleyoke8448
@wesleyoke8448 3 ай бұрын
I doubt he knew 6 months before. I bet it was 6 weeks. It was a pretty quick turn. But i was definitely one of the fans that was turning him face. Love scott hall day 1.
@bigglilwayne7050
@bigglilwayne7050 4 ай бұрын
Vince shoulda let Waltman come in as The Lightning Kid, rather than the generic sounding 1,2,3 Kid
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 4 ай бұрын
Razor was always cooler than HBK.
@D4NK1
@D4NK1 4 ай бұрын
Considering that he had "X-Pac heat" named after him and is now seen as a bum, Sean waltman contributed so much to wrestling
@phillysfinest215
@phillysfinest215 4 ай бұрын
Why yall just won’t say xpac
@jrwizz
@jrwizz 4 ай бұрын
Id had just said sean
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 4 ай бұрын
cuz there's only one real pac and his name ain't start with x 😉
@fartdonkey8290
@fartdonkey8290 4 ай бұрын
Right, he was yellow and ate ghosts
@anonamos6086
@anonamos6086 2 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who never liked the 123 Kid, or Sixx, or Xpac or whatever the hell Sean wants to call himself? The Bronco Buster was right up there with Rikishi’s ass face thing on the list of terrible moves.
@djray369
@djray369 4 ай бұрын
I think what started him turning was facing Backlund at Mania. He was so much cooler than Bob. He got a face reaction. Then the next month the match with Kid.
@docdeacon8570
@docdeacon8570 4 ай бұрын
That's because Backlund is an actual wrestler!!! Ur stuck on fake performance instead of a real wrestler.... Grow up.... Smh
@djray369
@djray369 4 ай бұрын
His work was at least 15 years behind. Doing a leg sweep and then doing weird movements afterwards was embarrassing.
@brianaguilera187
@brianaguilera187 4 ай бұрын
Not to mention Bob is in my opinion the worst wwwf/wwf champion ever 5 years for nothing
@godeatgod666
@godeatgod666 4 ай бұрын
Regarding Backlund, it was his character that was more behind the times than anything. He was great as a heel a year later.
@DrummerYYZ
@DrummerYYZ Ай бұрын
@@docdeacon8570 dude calm down lol
@AAAA-lt9hq
@AAAA-lt9hq 4 ай бұрын
I liked Sean better as 123 Kid than as X-Pac. His early face underdog matches gave off a Zac Gowen kind of winning against the odds vibe. Not only did Sean's early work seem more impressive, but it was easier to root for Sean as a face underdog instead of a Kliq stooge.
@mamayl8592
@mamayl8592 4 ай бұрын
Had he not passed, Scott should have been involved in creative somewhere. He was too smart to the business not to utilize.
@OikPoinFive
@OikPoinFive 4 ай бұрын
I'd have razor beat backlund at msg late 94! Not diesel. Have diesel become ic champ again not JJ at RR 95. WM 11 Double J is owens mystery partner they win tag titles. Razor(wf) vs Shawn II - WWF title at WM 11. Diesel turns heel later. Razor vs Hbk -WF LT v BBB. Diesel(c) v Bulldg -IC TSG(cc) v OH,JJ -TT Bull(c) v Blayze - WC Lex vs Tatanka Bret vs Bundy Taker vs Kama MOM, Shrinkers vs Yoko/Bob/Eli/Jacob
@shawngillespie3532
@shawngillespie3532 4 ай бұрын
Literally revitalized Sting with the Crow gimmick
@kebsis
@kebsis 4 ай бұрын
I guess he was too unreliable because of the drinking issues
@mamayl8592
@mamayl8592 4 ай бұрын
@@kebsis Probably.
@MrROTD
@MrROTD 4 ай бұрын
123 kid had more spunk than anyone at the time , it didn't matter he wasn't big and didnt have "the look" , I really liked him when he came on the scene.
@jjrdias
@jjrdias 4 ай бұрын
He was killing himself out there. He was the first "lightweight" to really get over/be put over, as far as I can remember.
@bazookajoe6133
@bazookajoe6133 4 ай бұрын
Only 2 wrestler deaths have ever made me tear up. Hot Rod and this man. RIP bad guy. 😞
@timfrederick9305
@timfrederick9305 4 ай бұрын
I was a big Sean Waltman fan but I never thought he would be more than a jobber in the WWF cause it was the era of the big men in wrestling.Guys like him and Rey Mysterio really paved the way for smaller guys to succeed in the wrestling business-
@thepunditspundit1776
@thepunditspundit1776 4 ай бұрын
What turned him is that they didn’t have the Macho Man or Bret Hart angles anymore. Those guys were both cool in their own way. Then after those, he’s cooler than every babyface he wrestles
@dacechasinghawk3910
@dacechasinghawk3910 4 ай бұрын
The Kid, X-Pac , Waltman? Love that dude.
@frostyjhammer
@frostyjhammer 4 ай бұрын
Between 1-2-3 Kid and X-Pac, wasn't he Syxx?
@dacechasinghawk3910
@dacechasinghawk3910 4 ай бұрын
Ya, Syxx don't count. LOL, just kidding. Lightning Kid counts too, then.
@georgecooke9010
@georgecooke9010 2 ай бұрын
DON'T PHUCK WITH THE HART FOUNDATION! CHICO RAMON KNEW.
@2beJT
@2beJT 4 ай бұрын
Razor was so cool, as a kid, I didn't even know he was a heel
@tonypiper7932
@tonypiper7932 21 күн бұрын
One of a few wrestlers who got over without having THE belt! That’s talent right there!
@BEERLIGHTBROKER
@BEERLIGHTBROKER 4 ай бұрын
Scott had the perfect amount and placement of body hair.
@TherealDc82
@TherealDc82 4 ай бұрын
Love these rest in peace .
@JohanJonasson
@JohanJonasson 3 ай бұрын
One of my favorite moments
@msoi215
@msoi215 4 ай бұрын
#RIPScottHall
@liquidamerican8543
@liquidamerican8543 Ай бұрын
He was the absolute GOAT of these old shoot interviews. He would be perfect for a modern day podcast. Sad we can't have that. RIP.
@mauricemason7135
@mauricemason7135 4 ай бұрын
Big Scott Hall... you are missed.
@barfo281
@barfo281 3 ай бұрын
Somehow I remember watching a video of Scott Hall saying losing to the Kid was his idea and Vince was upset about it because he did it on Raw without telling Vince; that it was Scott's idea to put Kid over.
@DeMan59
@DeMan59 4 ай бұрын
To tell the truth this was the only time I ever found X-Pac at all interesting.
@NefastusJones
@NefastusJones 4 ай бұрын
Ever see him in those pornos with Chyna?
@JohnDoe-qu7gm
@JohnDoe-qu7gm 3 ай бұрын
Waltman should blow the Klique on command for giving him a career.
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