Heatran Only - Pokemon Platinum

I've found all the help I need regarding processors. Thanks so much!
Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, or save states
4. No movepool evasion-boosting moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- I make no attempt to have the exact same rule details between generations.
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- Evasion boosting is allowed if the move is not obtained from the Pokemon’s movepool. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed.
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1 & 4, banned in gen2, and allowed only to bypass terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- Items obtained with the ability Pickup can only be used if the starter obtained them
-- The footage is sped up & slowed down to match the pace of my narration
These Rule details apply only to generation 1:
-- All battle-mechanic glitches are allowed (glitches that occur outside of battle are banned)
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
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If you're new around here, Venomoth is a Psychic/Flying type, you can't change my mind.

[@Xeraser2]

I lost it when the Blissey footage went into picture-in-picture mode and just went from laughing to crying as it went on and on.

[@ultlifeform]

You mentioned that Fire and Dragon have perfect neutral coverage (Steel actually isn't needed for this, since Fairy hasn't been introduced yet), but as you also mentioned, the calculator doesn't factor abilities, which means there is actually one Pokemon that resists both of those types (and Steel). And fittingly, that Pokemon is Heatran! Steel resists Dragon, and Flash Fire makes it immune to Fire! lol

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

Mmmhm. In competitive Pokemon one of Heatran's most common moves is Earth Power primarily just to beat other Heatran!

[@Nestmind]

Competitive pokémon in a nutshell

[@135forte]

​@@Thund3rDrag0n12 Shame it is bulky enough to be able to decently tank that with the right EVs. Or Assualt Vest once that shows up. Iirc, FSG hit well over an hour on Heatran.

[@sebarsht12]

And interestingly, the first Dragon/Fire Pokémon , could hit Heatran for neutral damage with its Fire STAB due to its ability

[@Frenchy210]

This is an awesome little fact, thanks for sharing 😁

[@WorkInProgressX]

1:30 this graph is hilarious, you have deities, guardians, calamities, an alien and then… a bunny

[@RagisRAG]

I couldn't stop laughing.

[@KimFareseed]

Rabbits are notoriusly cautious.

[@paulmann8570]

Heatran is such a unique legendary. The typing, the design, the fact it's a legendary with a random gender, such a good stat spread, and an excellent movepool only really missing reliable recovery, but if its performance competitively through the years means something, it never truly needed it. It's no wonder despite the struggles, it managed to do quite well.

[@StFido]

Big caveat for its competitive performance is that most sets used eruption, a special fire attack with 150 base power that decrease as it loses health. The move is only obtainable with a heatran from Pokémon ranger so it’s not gonna help in solo runsz

[@iantaakalla8180]

Still, competitive Heatran would be an interesting idea - if Heatran had Eruption, how much better would it do, or would it not matter because Eruption is based off of HP and therefore OHKO are still tantalizingly out of reach?

[@rooislangwtf]

Heatran is friend shaped, of course it has a 100 base friendship

[@leandrocesar5207]

You know what could have helped against Wake? Natural Gift with a berry that gives Grass damage. It can be a good resource when you don't have that deep of a movepool

[@TheMoogleKing93]

Yeah Rawst berry is easy to get for this

[@kode-man23]

Omg the Blissy split-screen 😂😂 I remember as a kid thinking that something was broken, there was no way that it was supposed to take that long.

[@plk917]

11:15 normally i would agree, but that shiny machop says otherwise lol. That's so cool you've found shinys in every generation you have played on this channel.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Oh yeah! 1 per generation so far. FireRed has to be next!

[@letsmakeit110]

the picture-in-picture of the blissey's hp going down was *chef's kiss

[@wiseguise5960]

That Home Alone reference 😆 Scariest furnace in any movie lol.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Truly!

[@daddyb1100]

Seriously! Always scared me as a kid.

[@lazypaladin]

Hetran is a 900+lbs Derpy Magma Froggo who just wants to give you a hug. *_And I'm here for it!_*

[@iBenjamin1000]

a bull, or an ox, or a boar perhaps?

[@daniellivengood426]

I used to hate Heatran as a kid, but as I’ve gotten older and played competitive I really appreciate it for being really unique because of its typing and ability in combination. It walls everything and has an amazing signature move. The design has grown on me a ton. Love Heatran, he’s the goat

[@MrMovees87]

I’ve been binge watching a lot of these Platinum runs the last couple days while I’ve been knocked out with the flu, and they’ve been such a wonderful thing to just sit back and chill with ❤️

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I hope you feel better soon!

[@flavalicious7327]

Buneary's low friendship is because rabbits take a long time to build trust with

[@44MagnumNA]

Yup, and it's very easy to break their trust as well. A rabbit's cautiousness borders on paranoia.

[@salamense6791]

I think getting fire blast at the department store for ¥5500 and might help in some battles. Also the choice specs is located in the top left house in Celestic town in the morning. So if you don't need anything form other times and the Pokemon is a special attacker i recommend that you have the time set between 4 and 9 am.

[@Shadowvanify]

The choice specs probably aren’t that useful for a solo run, since it only makes sense to equip it for fights that you only need one move for. Most of the time thats gonna be fights you already have super effective damage on and will probably sweep anyways, so spending time swapping the head item is a waste.

[@stephentoothman7852]

Wise Glasses (same NPC at night iirc) are probably better

[@drake1360]

@@ShadowvanifyJust because one move is always the most optimal doesn't mean that you've got an easy sweep, and getting a 50% power boost to that move could save time if the other options are either training in the wild or resetting over and over for a low-chance strat. Also, with how unoptimized these early runs are, the couple seconds it'd take to switch out his held item is negligible.

[@zuthalsoraniz6764]

Heatran's moveset almost reminds me of the movesets of late-game mons in gen 1, being pretty clearly built/balanced around it being obtained in the post-game at a high level.

[@Randroth]

You were very lucky in the end, if the Togekiss used Aura Sphere instead of Water Pulse, Heatran would have fainted for sure!

[@escapecamper]

Hetran is a good doggo

[@SmashMath151]

I loved Heatran as the reward for the postgame in Diamond many years ago, but never knew about the unusually high base friendship! Good performance held back from being even better by an solid but shallow movepool and a bad defensive typing against several key foes.

[@IrrelevantPride]

Yes! My favorite legendary, i was hoping for it in December but scott coming in clutch

[@Mr.Pokemanluck]

The fact that you caught a shiny Machop is so fitting due to the fact that paldean fates just came out and it’s full of shiny arts! I hope you train it up and give it a solo video in its home game platinum (I believe you have done a vs video in the past Machamp vs golem) so giving it a solo video seems fitting while you continue to increase your mastery in this game. 😁

[@Hex17alv]

Great vid, the Blissey sloooow ho bar got me cracking

[@LTDextel]

I haven't watched any of your videos since last year(live streams included). Glad to get back into the swing of it

[@TheMoogleKing93]

Gen 4 might be peak legendary hunting. Stumbling across Heatran exploring was such a cool moment.

[@cameronneveu7277]

I suspect its friendship is High because In the Story you Rescue it for Team Galactic. And / or Returning the Magma Stone from Buck.

[@perkypenguin1663]

I'm a bit surprised that SunnyBeam strats never made an appearance in this solo, but your video demonstrated that even without that, Heatran has a wide enough movepool to do what it needs to do! (Also you could say this Pokemon puts the ace in furnace :p)

[@kenb2957]

I love the little dance you give Candice's Sneezle, it's one of the gym leader intro animations I look forwards to the most

[@lamiaprincess6371]

Heatran is actually a Pokemon I'm really fond of. It's got a long competitive history as a powerful and versatile Pokemon and being able to beat Blissey with Magma Storm was always really cool. Imagine Magma Storm in Gen I. Also I noticed a small overlay inaccuracy: during the fight with Fantina, Duskull's Future Sight was showing up as 40 BP. This is inaccurate! In Gen III and Gen IV, Future Sight actually does typeless damage so Heatran wouldn't resist it. It's a very small thing though.

[@lamiaprincess6371]

Oh yeah also someone else said it in the comments, but Natural Gift is a really powerful option! I think I left a list of where you can get every berry somewhere in one of your discords...I'd have to find it again.

[@Lexi_TG]

had this on in the background and i was so startled when i heard my name lolll cant wait for that machop playthrough

[@snowyarticuno]

Heatran's one of those Pokemon I've grown to like more as time goes on. I love this grandpa/grandma furnace salamander by this point so I am glad it, too, apparently likes me a lot.

[@andreapareti324]

Well, that's definitely not how I expected this video to start! But it was nice!

[@MaxpunchIDK]

I think black out training against the first gym leader would have been so much faster. Love the series btw, keep on the good work. =)

[@SinnerChrono]

I was the first in my friend group back in high school to find and catch this pokemon. This was always a special pokemon for me from this gen.

[@Dpmt]

Love Scott’s hardware thoughts. You should reach out to some tech KZbinrs for an emulator deep dive.

[@KevChaos86]

Minor correction, Scott; you could potentially get the Flame Plate before the postgame, if you go down into the Underground & dig into the walls. It's not a consistent nor guaranteed method, & would require a variable amount of time to potentially obtain, but it is an option.

[@CelticGuardian7]

The game's telling you that if you love your furnace, it'll love you back and won't die on you. =)

[@Kununn]

Loved this run 👍 great hook of an intro and everything felt so smooth and informative

[@SantaFeSuperChief1]

Sick thumbnail

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Agreed. Brian's work here is fantastic!

[@f0rm0r]

As a fellow Lexi, I'm very excited to see how Machop does!

[@JacktheRah]

I like the pace this video has. Sure it all depends on how well the Pokemon is doing but the last Platinum runs felt a bit rushed in the editing but this one feels much better!

[@megariderfire1994]

Everyone's favorite molten steel spider-frogboi-thing that's actually pretty good in competitive, both singles and doubles. You got a better time with this thing then expected.

[@TigeriPlaysGames]

i never knew heatran was such a friendly lil guy :o

[@PieEyeToon]

I love that this giant metal magma toad wants to be your friend more than even your starter. It being the only legendary with a random gender could imply that the one you catch is just a single member of a rare, possibly all but extinct species, kind of like the Eon siblings. Maybe Heatran is so eager to befriend you because it's lonely?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Poor Heatran. I love it more now.

[@135forte]

Rabbits tend to be very difficult to tame/get to warm up to you and Friendship is the one of the themes of the Bunneary line. Frustration and Return by level up at a very low level (12, iirc) tests you the player on how efficiently you can earn it's trust.

[@shikouji]

i always gotta come back and check your still posting homie.

[@thebigbean8783]

Heatran. Good choice. I don't really know anything or feel anything about this thing. It seems cool though, and I'm sure it will do great

[@chineseman6580]

Never check off the box for only including later generation types and the numbers might not be inflated, it depends. The calculator gets confused with fairy types and will mark them down incorrectly, stating them as normal effectiveness instead of super effectiveness because the first type does not exist, which I’m assuming puts them as typeless instead of normal because fighting is for some reason not super effective. Fairy has multiple weaknesses so if included and not checked off then only dark ghost types will be normal effectiveness which is true if you don’t have a fairy type. Otherwise fairy types will be bloating the results, but because of some normals being switched to fairies it messes it up anyways.

[@lmr4403]

That art is absolutely amazing, well done!

[@jordanthejq12]

Buneary has base zero Friendship because the line is designed around Return and Frustration. Buneary starts with Frustration and Lopunny has Return by Heart Scale. Buneary absolutely hates your guts on capture, but steadily learns to trust you until it's ready to do anything for you.

[@homer23422000]

I find it interesting that Gamefreak created the biology of Heatran as it has an orange glow coming from inside it that can be seen from its mouth and Boiling magma-like blood circulates through it's body, AND part of it's Steel body is melted by it's own heat, yet it doesn't know a fire type move at birth. No Flame Wheel, no Ember, no Lava Plume, at least until Gen 6. I'm just shaking my head. 😵😵

[@NoName-cz3wn]

-Scott starts with Mew and every TM unlocked -Sticks with Return anyway

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Then I run rest, return, curse, sleep talk ;)

[@NoName-cz3wn]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon perfect type coverage to this day

[@momoapples]

Always love it when you encounter a shiny (even tho I'm still a bit salty about the Rattata)

[@chrisdixon7377]

I grew up in fairbanks alaska, when our furnace broke we had to crack the oven open and turn it on and break out the space heaters.

[@pikminman13]

fun fact: there is one pokemon in gen 4 that resists fire, dragon, and steel: heatran. since it has flash fire, it is immune to fire. and of course, the other two resist.

[@kotyrollins]

Eagerly looking forward to the Machop solo platinum run.

[@inanimategaming]

Not only is that a full odds shiny, it's a female machop too, making her extra rare! Can't wait for her journey to begin one day

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Oooo I didn’t realize it was 25% female. Btw 29 in her attack DV!

[@Silvitewolf]

lockstin has a really good video on why buneary starts with crap friendship... i forget the major points but basically tame bunnies are notoriously hard to get to like you but once they do they're your bff but theres more ,,

[@mynameispepper1590]

I'm sure all these tech problems are frustrating for you, but personally I really enjoy hearing about them!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I’m glad they have an upside!

[@midge2946]

Yooo, the shiny! It feels kind of wild to me that you've only seen three so far, with how many runs you've done. Though, there are no shinies in gen 1 and that makes up a ton of your content, so maybe it makes sense.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Also, I don’t battle a lot of wild Pokemon. Mostly trainer battles.

[@Great_Olaf5]

10:55 Ponyta are really good experience though. I understand the risk of the machop, but when I'm in the area grinding for experience, unless I've got something weak to fire, I'll just keep running away unless I run into a ponyta.

[@marsella527]

I remember playing Diamond way back in 2007 and accidentally stumbling on Heatran thinking "huh, that's neat."

[@Ichorlmao]

i haven't watched your content for awhile glad to come back

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Good to have you back :)

[@kandyeggs]

I like to imagine that Pokémon (because they have random ai) don’t understand type matchups or abilities, so they like being directed by good trainers since it brings out their true power :)

[@TastyMeerkat]

Venomoth Fact #2: Venomoth really was originally meant to evolve from Metapod. But late into development, they realized giving the player access to such a monster that early in the game and at only level 10 broke the games already broken balance. Thus the change was made to Butterfree.

[@Reluxthelegend]

5:30 you forgot the STAB so the effective power is aven more impressive 360! Definitely going to KO your heatran lol

[@burnttoast1273]

I really love platinums intro music

[@iBenjamin1000]

scott I'm sure you're interested more in doing solo platinum runs with sinnoh native pokes but it just crossed my mind that I want to see you do a blissey solo platinum run. this decision is not born out of malice but it's sure not born purely out of favor so please feel free to forget about it.

[@SableyeBoi]

Now I’m excited to see that Shiny video to come out

[@Smileyrat]

I like the new tech. I wish I could see it on my small screan I use at work. 🙂

[@pjanderson4876]

Hey my furnace broke in January too! It sucked, I had to get an $13k loan to get it fixed

[@lewisspring35]

Fun fact: Heatran is the only Legendary you can perform the Cute Charm glitch on because it has a standard gender ratio.

[@ave_maria323]

What's the cute charm glitch?

[@SubIfYouFounMyComment]

Ooh… I’m so excited to see how Heatran suffers against Garchomp…

[@Nicoco_Mochi]

Haven’t watch the video yet, liked it already.

[@maennahon69]

You should do Platinum runs, with all the new evolution that Gen 4 brought us. electrevire, roserade, mamoswine, togekiss, yanmega,.... And the many others. Would be pretty interesting to see, which pokemon can beat the game the fastest.

[@devinbuettgenbach2941]

While my favorite legendary is still Cresselia followed closely by Giratina and Darkrai, Heatran stands out for me because it's such a unique lava dog. Platinum honestly has some of the best uniques in the entire series imo.

[@robertleite6650]

Idk why I find it so hilarious that Heatran just wants to be your friend

[@Xeraser2]

Big goofy fire dog, of course it wants to be your friend

[@myggmastaren3365]

I tried doing the Heatran only run in pokemon heartgold, only to realize it's only attacking move for a while is ancient power, which has 5 PP and sprout tower (a.k.a worthless EXP yields) is obligatory..

[@chaosryans]

My 7 year old caught her first shiny in Shield. She was like, "this isn't usually green right?" It was a tangrowth and when i told her about shinies she caught it and was very excited.

[@neilthellama6363]

“Some like them (pokemon) for their aesthetics.” He says showing some of the most… uhhh…. Drawn…. Pokémon (and weepinbell which I’m scared to know what that art looks like)

[@GroundThing]

Regarding the unevolved level 36 prinplup, I always assumed that the level pokemon evolve at varies by trainer skill, so yes if you had a prinplup get to level 36 it would evolve, that just means Barry isn't quite as skilled a trainer as you are. It also explains, for instance, Lance's underleveled Dragonites

[@daddyb1100]

Wait till you get to gen 7 where perfect friendship will save your Pokémon from fainting or even heal status conditions.

[@rojachan]

Heatran looks very polite

[@benediktwindisch2778]

I actually don't know what some people have against Heatran. I always loved the design, the type combination and Heatran is my favorite gen 4 legendary together with Giratina

[@charlessegale6493]

38:36: I love that this is a running gag here. XD

[@nelsondaily]

18:21 if i recall correctly Wisp triggers Flash Fire, so it would even be beneficial for you if she uses it

[@banditrests]

There’s a video that suggests that fire/steel is the statistically best typing in Pokémon, but this is also the game where every late game trainer has close combat or earth quake lol. I totally forgot about heatran’s base friendship, but lopunny has base 140 so that’s fun.

[@Fangreius]

You have said in the past that you like to have the episodes mirror we have a friendship theme for this year so lucario at the end of the year i hope Your videos are always great

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Good theory

[@somegal3836]

oh boy, magneton finally gets a video in yellow. It's gonna suck! Same for Electrode! Sonic boom for rock types, how fun!!!

[@Witzwo1]

I love those Sinnoh runs. Maybe it is because most of my favourite Pokemon are from Gen 4. Empoleon, Shaymin, Cresselia, Heatran, Floatzel, Drapion, Giratina and Dusknoir. But there are so many more awesome ones. Even the bad ones feel great. Maybe it is, because it was my first "real" Pokemon Game. And the Music. I mean Gen 3 and 5 are Great, but Gen 4... so many great tracks

[@devinbuettgenbach2941]

Always a pleasure to meet another fan of the steel emperor. Gen 4 really just hits different and I love it.

[@trevorparker6400]

I would recommend hp grass for the second playthrough to help with Crasher and Bertha

[@MegaTealy]

Love the content bud. Keep it up!

[@jaredbelcher4591]

So looking forward to the Lexi playthrough

[@asamuel9]

I’ve seen you mention about the gameplay speed for the gen 4 games and that you can’t get 60fps, there’s a tutorial somewhere where you just adjust the code slightly and it takes the limit factor off, works for me, speeds up the movement and health bars etc, if you’ve not seen this before I can try look it up as I don’t remember off heart where it is

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I put that into the video, it didn't work for my issue.

[@888Grim]

Excellent video as always =) Yes, I am excited for Magneton vs Electrode! I predict that Magneton will win, but not by much?

[@gummyshoe223]

If I may make a suggestion. Maybe you should box your HM users until you need them especially if you need to grind, as it will probably save you time with the animations at the Pokemon Center.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I’m working this in at some moments in Emerald. That said, depositing them for 2-3 heals isn’t going to make up for the deposit time.

[@veghesther3204]

Its easily doable while its FINAL lv up move isn't crap you'll likely beat the Elite 4 way BEFORE LV 96.

[@deansouza3747]

It didn't seem to hurt Heatran's performance here, but I think you tend to get a little too fixated on Ancient Power's potential omni-boost sometimes. Sure, it can help, but the chance is just so low that in a lot of cases, it just isn't worth trying to get. I will say that it's a better omni-boost move for solo runs than Ominous Wind or Silver Wind- Rock just has way better coverage, especially in the early game, than Ghost or Bug. And speaking of Bug types... I cannot wait to see you suffer through this game with either Kriketune or Wormadam. Cyrus and Flint will be absolute nightmares to get through with those two, and I can imagine Barry being pretty brutal once he has Staraptor.

[@PvtPikman]

Hey Scott, not sure if anyone else has commented it, but at and around 15:36 when you’re talking about type effectiveness, you still have Ground selected. I don’t have it up in front of me right now, so I’m not sure if that effects the calcs against types or not, but thought you should know

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

The graphics are likely just wrong. We collected them after I did my research, not at the same time.

[@brunokrizan275]

Cant wait to see darkrai run some day

[@philiphunt-bull5817]

Did you know that Fire Fang bypasses Wonder Guard? Also, you should turn on animations for Cynthia