Gengar vs Alakazam - This one is weird... - Pokemon Yellow Versus

If this was Red or Blue I think Alakazam would take it easy, but in this case, it only knows Teleport and Kinesis at the start. So wouldn't Gengar win then? In Pokemon Yellow, Poison-types have it much harder than in Red and Blue because of the gym leaders' new move sets. Giovanni has four Pokemon with Earthquake and Lance won't just spam agility with all his dragons! This race is going to be a weird one. From all the comments and poll before the premiere of the video, it seems people are fairly passionate about their picks to win this one. So let's find out who wins in this race! The grinning ghost or the spoon-wielding powerhouse?
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[@boianko]

I love how half the time Gen 1 is like: "This pokemon has an Attack of 25, but due to how cutting trees works, it effectively has 250."

[@devinmiracle7680]

I literally laughed out loud in the elite four when after beating Lorelei you completely skipped Bruno. Well done 😂

[@arhardar6873]

You know Bruno's such an afterthought when it takes a YT-comment to tell you that he was skipped in the video. Thanks for the insight Devin!

[@aurapris9591]

Who?

[@travisalexander6440]

In the Alakazam rerun he went from Lorelei to Lance, with some comment about feeling like he missed something. Savage.

[@rydrake9509]

bruno was too easy anyway, so he doesn't count as the elite four member, so it should've been called the elite 3, because almost nobody fails agaisnt bruno anyway

[@hokagejason4732]

All this hate on Bruno but he's the only member of the elite four who isn't replaced in gen 2, man must of earned a right to stay XD Well, lance is returning, but as champion instead of elite four member.

[@bluekaiser7073]

Ah yes. The elite 4. Lorelei, Agatha, Lance and Butt.

[@riccardomosena4162]

@Delta_Duck i think the joke is Bruno xD

[@FireFog44]

@@riccardomosena4162 Yup, Bruno is a joke.

[@miningtrout2868]

@@FireFog44 He’s the butt of the joke

[@HatZ.PetoriaZero]

And some random hiker blackbelt fusion

[@kstanni87]

Yep he's just that bad.

[@Evelyn_Rose1151]

Alakazam at Brocks Gym: Junior Trainer! I’ve come to bargain

[@shadowtitanx3962]

You mean Light Years Trainer?

[@henrymars6626]

"I recieve: Experience. You recieve: My defeat."

[@andrewpersad6272]

Uuuuuuuuuuu77uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuua

[@tommyakis]

Dr. Strange

[@snapbug3272]

Oh I get it

[@vo117man]

21:25 Gengar is literally running while Alakazam is driving his psychokinetic sports car to catch up, haha.

[@DonYagamoth]

Holy moly, you crank these out like crazy. I really enjoy these duel-type races :)

[@thebigbean8783]

Yeah I love these races but the problem is I have to root against an outstanding pokemon each time! It doesn't feel fair 🤭

[@tjayenterprises5190]

Alakazam is only second to mewtwo Edit: aaah, yellow version.. The great equaliser lol

[@onijester56]

The second-best Pokemon is only second to the best Pokemon? *surprised pikachu face* Gasp, I never would have guessed! Lol But, on a serious note, they are the first two Pokemon I loved.

[@lewisgregory1996]

I would say that Mew is the second to Mewtwo

[@onijester56]

@@lewisgregory1996 Mew is third. It would be second, if not for Alakazam sneaking in with their big-brain tactics.

[@hanburgundy4317]

I'm pretty sure Mew is 1st. You get him at level seven, so he gets a LOT more experience while leveling than his clone, and his movepool is great. Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Psychic, Dig. He will stomp. I've never ran into any issues with Mew lmao Mew is OP.

[@tjayenterprises5190]

@@hanburgundy4317 nah he would be 3rd, mewtwo literally has no counter. Can beat the game at a measly level 51 or so without items ( jrose ) and went through the entire region undefeated until the league. Alakazam was a close second due the the experience curve like you mentioned, while new is good. It hasn't got monster stats that smoke everything like mewtwo and alakazam

[@Pokemaniac_Nick]

The substitute grind really slowed Gengar down. Maybe a more offensive set with Thunderbolt and Psychic as well as a few more levels would speed it up. There are a lot of bikers, bird keepers, and swimmers in the mid/late game that a thunderbolt/psychic gengar would just eat right up for more exp.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Going to try that next!

[@tylerlarsen1842]

Scott used a Revive on Desktop! Gengar used Will-O-Wisp! But it failed!

[@snapbug3272]

Ah yes, there are only 3 elite Four members Really don't know why they named it the ELITE FOUR Also idk why they coded telling you a joke between Lorelei and Agatha

[@Limnomys]

Seeing Alakazam struggling at the beginning made me question a different thing: If you start the game with a lvl100 pokemon, can you finish it without using a pokemon center?

[@priestesslucy3299]

Just one level 100? If you can pick which moves it kept as it leveled up, with judicious use of Ethers and PP ups (and the Psychic TM) Alakazam might be able to pull it off. Gengar does get more TMs, but it's base learnset is inferior so I'm not sure.

[@alexisdipoalo9443]

@@priestesslucy3299 a single level 100 no, however it is easily possible to beat yellow without visting a pokemon center with some proper planning and use of TM/HMs

[@priestesslucy3299]

@@alexisdipoalo9443 It's actually an interesting question, and one that some pokemon could absolutely pull off. Snorlax, Dragonite, Lapras, Gyarados... Might be a fun challenge to try

[@HopUpOutDaBed]

you would only need ethers and elixirs for the elite 4 probably. Struggle from a decent level 100 should be enough to sweep most non-gym/rival/e4 fights

[@Limnomys]

Guys, don't forget about something usually ignored: money. No poke centers implies in a lot of antidotes, potions, full heals. At the same time you can't fight every trainer because you need to save pp. There are many things to consider.

[@qwopiretyu]

Really loving the versus format, and the journalistic integrity involved in a revisit for bug types of all things pushed you over the edge in my books.

[@hattrem8525]

The Big Brain Pain Train versus the Spine-chilling Silent Assassinator Spectre

[@nerdsfailme4166]

One of the things I enjoy most about these is your fond memories from playing these game for the first time as a child.

[@Alexis5224]

It's so funnny that Ghost was supposed to be a counter for Psychic (the most OP type in gen 1) but on the contrary they are immune. I would like to see how things would fare in either FR/LG or even on Let's Go.

[@rayzuke1232]

We still know alakazam is going to win. It does everything gengar can do but better. Gengars only hope is a early lead.

[@thebigbean8783]

@@johnsingletary4864 that's what I'm saying. Gengar takes this. Alakazam is gonna get slapped in the elite 4

[@jaycobsimmons218]

Gengar actually should have the edge with a greater move pool and the ability to use hypnosis

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@jaycobsimmons218 Hypnosis is woefully inaccurate. But sleep is super broken in Gen 1 so it may be worth it. Gengar also lacks good STAB and even if it had good STAB moves to use, they'd run off its inferior Attack STAT. And the lack of STAB also means it can do less damage than it might seem against neutral targets because the base power of the moves without STAB really show against bulkier mons. Zam's limited movepool only shows against opposing Psychics really though there's also the fact that it has paper physical bulk while Gengar is more like cardboard in comparison.

[@Sara.Space.H]

Mah-Dry-Bread; "Blaine is always such a joke in these runs!" Alakazam; "Hold up..."

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

He does play Red and Blue and Blaine is pretty bad in those games haha

[@ronaldgreig1748]

So...Kangaskhan vs tauros Golem vs rhydon Lapras vs dewgong Fearow vs dodrio vs pidgeot Ninetales vs arcanine Vileplume vs victrebell Paras vs mewtwo

[@HatZ.PetoriaZero]

What? Paras vs Mewtwo? Also, add Rapidash in the Ninetales vs Arcanine dight

[@Eminster]

Lapras slaps dewgong

[@nikaoharbour6962]

Paras with fury cutter should win

[@e22ddie46]

I didn't realize just how much the Giovanni part would slow him down. I knew it would because of moves but I figured it would only take a few quick levels to outspeed and one shot

[@RMV1560]

I love it! “Out of all the PokeTubers I talk about my PP the most, it’s a very important resource that helps with time and I have to keep bringing it up…like my girlfriend.” Dude your sly poke puns are hilarious

[@Archangel89]

19 min head start and the Zam still made an epic comeback, its the OP spoons. Great content.

[@troykennedy1087]

Never noticed the little paws Gengar has, they're adorable!!! Also the sprite from the players view is awesome!! Oh and Alakazams mustache thing is Awesome! Maybe the longer the mustache, the more powerful the Alakazam?

[@riccardomosena4162]

Should have been Gengar vs clefable, for the lore/theories

[@andersonantunesdeleu8591]

I enjoyed this versus challenge really much Scott! Thanks dude! But I was surprised with the resul, Alakazam is really a monster in Gen 1, not even Gengar could beat it, that's very impressive! But I suspect Gengar could get a better result with thunderbolt, psychic, mega drain and substitute all along the League, I suspect at least 🤔 that was very fun! Longing for next duo challenge!

[@mobiust708]

Not only is ghost physical in the early gens, in gen 1, there is only a single ghost move that benefits from your stats. That is lick. The only other damaging ghost move in the game is nightshade which deals fixed damage. At least it's not dragon, where in gen 1, there was only 1 dragon move in the game, and it's damage is also fixed (dragon rage).

[@toxicperson8936]

Ghost, dragon, & bug are all severely lacking moves in Gen 1 for whatever reason. It’s weird that they couldn’t even give each type at least a somewhat decent damaging move

[@outis2493]

@@toxicperson8936 bugs have bad stats and bad moves even if theyre supposed to fall off midgame atleast font make them completly useless.

[@iantaakalla8180]

People to bug types: L + you fell off + you’re not in Unova or Alola + you’re not Scizor + Frosmoth can die with all the hazards in Gen 8 + get Quiver Dance or Compoundeyes or some overpowered move like that + no wins + Nuzlocke fodder + only Bug/Steel or Bug/Rock are really good + the creator happened to love catching bugs and this is how he treated you.

[@sassiestrassie]

I don’t know what it is, but your content delivery is really nice. You have a great voice to listen to, and your honesty is refreshing. Thanks for great content.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks! I'm trying really hard to improve the audio. It's been a big journey. Glad you're enjoy the fruits of my labour!

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Your voice is even better than it used to be and you sound more confident than your earlier content. Are you making various recordings of your voice and stiching them together via editing? I ask this because you sounded a bit different at Blaine, your tone became deeper for a couple of sentences and then came back to normal, like you were a bit closer to the mic for a second take out something. I enjoyed it, but it caught my attention, despite my lack of commenting about it in my thread, where I put some replies so I don't lose your heart.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

There are two factors regarding audio. I am working to even this out. I have a fixed recording location with fixed mic / chair positions. But it's hard to get the exact same positioning and angle each day. I'm working on this though. 1) I have a chronic cough and it is worsening. It shreds my vocal chords a lot and makes me sound dramatically different between different days of recording. I'm searching for medical solutions to this right now. 2) I'm learning that I deliver lines different depending on where I am in the recording process. When I first sit down my voice is deeper, slower, and more relaxed. As I go it gets higher and thinner. I think the re-takes all sound different because I am using a different type of voice.

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I see. I'm glad to hear you're looking after yourself, I wish for your fast recovery! I actually enjoy that you get more hyped as you go, it really delivers a sense of journey as you near the League (and later the Champion). It was the first time that I actually noticed such a change in your voice during the Blaine segment, so don't beat yourself over it, I love your content and expect many more races (or re-races, when you feel up for it) from you! Here's a fan from Brazil. ❤️

[@lostnumbr]

2 of my favorite gen 1 staples. I can never resist having these special canons on my team.

[@clarinet_guy2139]

I’m fifteen minutes into the video, and Alakazam got to level 16 WAY faster than what I anticipated. I thought it would take hours.

[@marclopez1571]

Your videos bring me back in time when I was but a little kid. All the joy of playing Pokemon... You transmit it very well. Keep it up Scott, your videos and good vibes make thousands of people feel joy when we watch them. You are an inspiration.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

[@markmalocha3303]

love seeing how differently everyone approaches these challenges! a race with multiple runners competing with the same pokemon would be neat, to see whose approaches work best

[@The_Dominick]

I was thinking about it, and I think grinding instead of getting substitute might help gengar as the Pokémon with earthquake which was one of the main reasons that you went down the substitute route, have poor special out side of dugtrio but mega drain could help there and mega drain would help with Rhydon. So you could theoretically with a high enough level wipe them all out (outside of dugtrio) with psychic before they could have a chance to use earthquake. But one flaw with this is that other Pokémon that you used substitute for might be a problem, but at the same time you would be at a higher level so they might not be as big of an issue. So I think that grinding might be a better play

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I do believe grinding will be better now. I had Butterfree's performance with substitute stuck in my mind coloring my decision making when I played this. I thought substitute would add the consistency needed to streamroll the league twice without any resets or lost time and just barely edge Alakazam out. Basically it was a gamble to trade Gengar's time lead for the consistency substitute could provide.

[@vanesslifeygo]

Alakazam's the factual winner, but if I want to Dream Eater the E4, I'm willfully using a Gengar.

[@cuddlebug8106]

If Gengar could learn an ice type move you could stick with Thunderbolt, psychic and mega drain for good coverage. I would try a run with Thunderbolt, Psychic, Toxic and Mega Drain. Maybe save rest if it gets hairy.

[@Schedelke]

Great seeing my 2 favorite gen 1 Pokemon in a head to head! I feel you kind of limited yourself for Gengar by going for Hypnosis Dream Eater Substitute. Gengar only has 5 base spec lower than alakazam. Look at the E4 four footage and see how well Gengar can tank hits. He doesnt need the same wall butterfree needs. Thunderbolt Megadrain Rest Psychic, to me seems like a better moveset. Good coverage and 2 healing options. Perhaps mimic over Megadrain for Lance and Champ. I fully understand that after learning about substitute combo with sleep you want to use it more, but Gengar is a beast, he doesnt need to cower behind some intern, he can smile and electrocute most pokemon, or drain them, or dominate their minds. Does make him sleepy though. No real comments on your Alakazam play except teach Psychic ASAP, as you mentioned, its his best move, you arent going to replace it with anything. What is a better move than the strongest stab move? Also, refreshing to watch your vid over breakfast on monday instead of dinner on sunday. ;)

[@Polacosendrea]

I still smiling when he says "This reduces mi pp" stupid but good joke always haha

[@kyleking4]

I have no information for improving runs; I just really appreciate your dedication and commitment to keeping us all entertained.

[@NonexistentIntellect]

Yep venomoth is dark/dragon until its galarian form which is grass/flying

[@vreeze33]

I assumed Alakazam would sweep from the start, but when I saw "slow start" I just knew it would have to start with struggle. I must say that I'm impressed by Gengar. Despite not having good stab moves it still did so well.

[@magusperde365]

Alakazam is still way WAAAY better in a normal playthrough. If he had confusion at the start...

[@ghoulzandghosts]

I’ve loved watching your channel grow, you’re awesome man much love

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

[@TheOmegaDragon]

Gengar may have a smile but Alakazam has 2 spoons and a mustache. You can't beat that.

[@parkermacinnis3977]

A rematch in Gen 2 would be neat to see someday. Shadow Ball and the punch move TMs would certainly shake things up.

[@three-b4212]

My God Scott, the "Not Today!" at the Slowpoke absolutely destroyed me! 😂

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Glad you saw that haha

[@three-b4212]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I must admit, I might be slightly buzzed after the Italy - England shootouts, but that absolutely floored me for the better part of a minute. And obviously I spotted it, I have learned to pay attention because your edit quips are without fault some of the funniest in the Poketuber community!

[@haunter5271]

@@three-b4212 likewise. PKs at the end was grueling haha

[@three-b4212]

@@haunter5271 I legit thought my heart was going to give out throughout the entire match, then the PK's took, idk, 5 years off my life. 😂

[@nateschendel4585]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon you Definitely scrapped tbolt too soon I actually think that thunderbolt is too important to lose at the league because it deals with Lance n Lorelei n rival the league members that matter I also don't think rhydon is a threat enough to justify mega drain

[@BuffCheeks80085]

"Sand-Attacking Devil" and "Time to unleash The Spoons on all of Kanto" earned my subscription. The first one had me rolling, that second one got me hyped because Kadabra is my favorite Pokemon and that is such a dope saying lol. Haunter is my second favorite btw, so this video was an easy click for me.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Haunter vs Kadabra will be interesting!

[@jacobgiron96]

Woah, pretty good race, I was sure that Alakazam was going to win, untill I saw their learnset yesterday, and knew it was going to be a close one, but I still thought Alakazam could make the comeback, STAB Psychic with 135 Special is so broken in Gen 1

[@quickclaw240]

Both of these powerhouses were part of team playing pokemon blue as a child.

[@Igorcastrochucre]

The thing about Gengar is, later in the game it takes more turns setting up in order to sweep and those turns take time. Alakazam just fires Psychics left and right and with its high critical hit ratio and Recover it rarely needs to change its strategy.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Zam can also fish for Special drops.

[@iantaakalla8180]

And the even funnier thing is that Gengar can do the same thing Alakazam does as well.

[@cpalmer3]

Back here a year plus later, still one of my favorite race videos ever

[@christopherballero866]

For Gengar: thunderbolt and psychic seem like they'd be great on Gengar

[@cuddlebug8106]

Should have spent time leveling up over mimic and substitute.

[@simoneboccadoro93]

Lol that "agatha is next" killed me. Also, your video are getting better and better each time. I love this format!

[@MrEnte3000]

15:53 Thunderbolt has 95 base power before Gen. 6.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yup

[@MikeHesk742]

Getting substitute slowed Gengar down far too much, and then using sub/hypnosis strats is also a slow stall-y strategy like we saw with Butterfree. Gengar is a sweeper like Alakazam, I think just use Gengar that way and he'd win because of the early lead. Gengar isnt a squishy pokemon in this gen, so he didnt need sub. Ice beam is easy to get, 95 base power and super effective vs those difficult ground pokemon, would make Lance a joke, and give you something to blast through exeggcutor quickly. It's better than mega drain in basically any circumstance. Keep ice beam/thunderbolt and maybe psychic, just go full sweeper. Remember that if you're dealing neutral damage anyway, Icebeam/Tbolt will always do more damage than psychic with the higher base power. Spare move slot for hypnosis or mimic or whatever, but I wouldnt expect many pokemon to survive the basic Gengar sweeper in this gen.

[@matheusjanuario2087]

I just got to the part where you talk about gengar punching and it reminded me that gengar and alakazan with the elemental punches were great because the punches were special lol but I’m not if you can teach them the moves in this game

[@priestesslucy3299]

You can back trade from GSC with the punches, but no. They can't get the punches In-Game

[@Undead2death]

@@priestesslucy3299 I remember doing that back in the day! Giving charmander fire punch at level 6 or ice punch for squirtle. Then trade them back.

[@priestesslucy3299]

@@Undead2death if you're going to do that, wynaut just Move Tutor them Flamethrower or Icebeam in Crystal instead? 😋

[@Undead2death]

@@priestesslucy3299 because crystal wasnt out at the time. Then parents didn't get us it when it came out.

[@patrickdupre28]

Hey Scott I just wanted to share with you my most important Pokémon memory. It’s actually one of the first memories I have. I was about 4 years old and my parents had sat me down in the electronics dept. in Walmart. They told me that I was getting to that age where I couldn’t stop talking so they were getting me a game boy so I could shut the heck up. They showed me the games and they let me choose any game I wanted. For some reason I felt a lot of pressure to pick the right one since my parents were staring seeing which one I would choose. My eyes wandered until I saw a bright yellow monster with red on its cheeks. I didn’t even know it at the time, but that was pikachu and pokemon yellow version. My parents bought it for me and it soon became all I could play. Very recently I picked up my old copy of Pokémon yellow and I played it to completion re living my childhood nearly 20 years later. I couldn’t believe that such an old game still worked AND STILL made me feel the way I did when I was young. I like your channel a lot because you play Pokémon yellow more than jrose and mahdrybread. Anyway keep up the awesome stuff buddy. Thank you for giving me something to listen to and watch while I get this degree! - -Pat Dupre

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Glad to provide some nostalgic entertainment while you get a degree!

[@fluffalpenguin]

"Agatha is next" is funnier than any Bruno joke has ever been.

[@EmrahT89]

Gengar lost because of the item collecting time waste, and unplanned TM changing. It should try hypnosis for those 3 pokemons of giovanni and could save much more time. The run was really disappointing, and not fair. Specially while trying to safe everywhere with Alakazam, with Genger you was slacking everywhere, and "forgott" often things to do in the right way. Ofc Alakazam is strong, but getting Gengar that wrong, while knowing Gen1 mechanics, ... dissapointment. Gengar should win in yellow if played differently. You should have know this, while you tried in past challenge a "substitute" option, and lost there much time aswell instead of not using.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I agree that I picked the incorrect strategy. I used it for a variety of reasons. 1. Giovanni, Sabrina, Koga 2. The consistent league run 3. Spending my time lead on something that will add consistency to help with the other important metrics (resets, consistent league time) 4. Bias because I had just used it in my most recent Butterfree video and it really help the Butterfly make it's sleep tactics far more consistent. I felt it would add consistency to Gengar's 60% hypnosis. In the end I agree with you and I want to continue to work on Gengar's run to improve the time. However, I did mention at the beginning that human error is a part of these races. This is not intended to be an objective scientific test.

[@EmrahT89]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Thank you , there you are right. Consistent might it be, but when points come for time and points , its not always that easy. In the Butterfree/Beedril run it was more consistent , but there you lost time aswell. I wonder how things would be if the item collecting part would be the rare candys, and using them in points, where it could improve Gengars flexibility more. I know thats not what is the option firstly, but if consistent for league is the question, it can be considert. Was just unhappy as a Gengar fan, however, options are there to use, and so every human use them surely differently. I try myself a bit too, maybe than i can give you some advise if i find one for me. However... i just tried until beating brook with grimer and koffing, i can tell its not as you would imagine, in case of advantage for one side. :)

[@nateschendel4585]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I wondered if scrapping thunderbolt for mega drain was a mistake 95 base power vs 40 base power n tbolt can paralyze Also imagine how much less gyarados aerodactyl n vaporeon are when you nuke them Also tbolt destroys water trainer lorelei lol I no she uses ice too n flying trainer Lance convince me he is dragon not flying Champion i agree with possible sub strat I agree my strat maybe rough for Giovanni but I wonder if sub is holding gengar back from optimizing tbolt to its potential in the league

[@e22ddie46]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon there is a huge difference since Butterfree is base 80 special and Gengar is 130. I think Gengar's stat dominance makes it preferable to hit hard and fast. Only going to hypnosis on psychic and ground types. There's only like...what 3 battles of concern right? Giovanni, and then Gary twice.

[@nikaoharbour6962]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon you could just EV train it

[@SillyInsaneGamer]

The fact you didn't mention bruno really had me laugh, the outcome was painfully obvious LOL! But man, I have to correct you; Venomoth isn't a dark type, it's a fairy type due it's pink color! ;)

[@dawnsbuneary]

I just realized that Gengar from gen 2 onwards has almost the exact same stats as Espeon. Only their HP and Special Defense are different.

[@ShayZelle96]

Well, that was unexpected to me, great video and enjoy this comment for the algorithm.

[@SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet]

Really nice video, thanks! You managed to convey the tension of a race even though these two attempts were obviously not done at the same time. Great scripting and storytelling. Well done! :D

[@DennisRash]

Love the absolute skip of bruno haha

[@brandondawson4086]

AWESOMENESS!! Sorry about the infuriating process of getting this video up earlier Scott's thoughts. This video was well worth the wait :-)!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

It's okay! I'm still pretty new to all of this, especially this turn around rate (started work on this video on Monday) so there are things to learn at every step of the way!

[@walkingcorpse1224]

Gengar calling it right now!

[@scottyjoe6966]

Glad I can finally catch this, as you released it the day I started my vacation. I had a gut feeling Gengar would win and I still feel justified in that feeling seeing the results. 2 levels and 5 minutes in the grand scheme of things is a slim margin, and should I be forced to choose between the two I would still lean to Gengar for the versatility the demonic balloon brings to the table. Great video, hopefully the Bovine Brawl will be this great of a race when it comes out.

[@RaycrowX]

I’m going through your backlog and it’s amazing to see how much you’ve improved at the game, Scott!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I had a lot to learn!

[@reyalsarmy]

Jinx is final boss. Agatha is next. Lmao #feelsbrunoman

[@grahamcoombe5461]

I’m glad you made this video sir, it actually made me like Gengar more! Thank you for your hard work as always, I am slowly getting caught up on your videos :)

[@Jaguar_mma]

I knew Alakazam would win, but I was voting for gengar 🤷‍♂️

[@InternetLad]

Fuck me for reading the comments while watching lol

[@jessehutchings]

I agree, Gengar is just more fun to use and there are many Pokemon in RBY who are simply fun to use. My favorite playthrough was using only CUTE Pokemon and giving them all evasion, paralysis, confusion or other buff/debuff moves and one attacking move

[@escapecamper]

WOW!!! This guy is great at the game. He really has a good thought process around the game and he puts together really intelligently done videos. The data and the methodology and stuff is rigorous and we trust his results.

[@jamescannon229]

Stoked to see this, gengar has always been a favorite of mine. I would also love to see a run with jolteon, flareon, and vaporeon. And also a gen 2 with espeon and umbreon. Love the content Scott!!

[@timmyjimmy3647]

10:00 if you beat the optional rival without catching any pokemon oak will give you 5 free poke balls

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You also need to have no pokeballs in your inventory!

[@piyushjambhrunkar99]

Wtf!! I am 25 and still searching this on KZbin 😂. Btw nice video 👍

[@bquirky23]

You did gengar dirty by not mimic'ing ice beam / slash and then remembering to do that with alakazam. good match all the same :D

[@Let_It_R1P]

Tbh, I don't even remember venomoths real type anymore and it's one of my favorite pokemon too

[@cherioke6227]

I genuinely thought they gave you the three starters because they would be the most efficient pokemon to beat the game with, love the series always hyped for new videos LETS GOOO

[@BZgA]

Damn, Jrose11 is packing his bags! This guy here is the new king of Pokemon Challenge Runs!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Haha that is high praise. Jrose11 is still great. I am happy to be a part of the Pokemon content ecosystem in a small way now!

[@Kmn483]

I was surprised at how close this was! Great match up!

[@rockno]

not sure how many people know about this but a few years ago i found out that if you beat the rival without catching any pokemon (or buying any pokeballs) before the (skipable) rival fight, oak gives you 5 pokeballs. so if you wanted to do a alakazam only rom, theres a (sort of) free $500 there.

[@dellanpickle]

you probably already have this planned, but what about Arcanine vs Ninetales?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

It is indeed planned!

[@adolfolerito6744]

The fact that Alakazam STILL won, even after the laborious leveling setup that was required to (finally) learn Confusion and defeat Brock, clearly shows how beastly he actually is

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

It's not that surprising, to be completely honest. Psychic is far and away better than ghost or poison in gen1 (big surprise, I know, lol), and when the 2 are compared competitively, Alakazam is overall better, while Gengar, despite technically being OU, isn't particularly good in that tier. It's also worth mentioning that Gengar effectively doesn't have any STAB moves that are usable in gen1, which makes quite a huge difference as well when compared to Alakazam

[@iantaakalla8180]

The misdreavus episode also proves this. Misdreavus does not have the Poison type that makes the Gastly line horrible against psychic Pokémon or psychic moves and even then with an appropriate gen 1 moveset it still sucks. Gengar only is good by coverage alone and sweeper strats.

[@CrocBankRbbr]

It’s Monday and we all know it’s Scott’s Thoughts day

[@tabbygale5430]

The reason ghost moves are physical is probably because the only ghost move that doesn't deal fixed damage is lick.

[@Draco_WarriorEX]

Substitute and Hypnosis are indeed a slow style of doing it, but, also, reliable. And using NPCs to drain Teleport may help a great deal in terms of speeding it up. *thinking face

[@msepol1168]

Just 13 minutes into the video and I've never seen someone suffer so much using an Alakazam! Your patience is a virtue! EDIT: It's also great to see how Gengar tanked Venomoth's stab Psychic so well in the battle against Koga.

[@pallavprabhakar]

You actually read all the comments!! I am impressed thanks for the video and consistency

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You’re welcome :)

[@trungdo168]

I love Scott’s train of thoughts in his videos.

[@brandan7761]

Generation 5 - Sawk Vs. Throh

[@rc4780]

I think they decided what was physical/special based on what made the most sense at the time. To Lick your opponent you need to physically touch them. So physical. Dragon Rage is portrayed as a flame/beam so special.

[@shadowtitanx3962]

Until you get nonsensical ones, like Shadow Ball and Dragon Claw.

[@rc4780]

@@shadowtitanx3962 SB came in Gen 2 and DC was Gen 3 - both years after the established what was physical/special. They really should have flipped Ghost and Dark in Gen 2 as all Gen 2 DARK moves are now physical, but the 90s and early 2000s was a weird time, and none of them cared that much cause they thought Pokemon would fail after Gen 3.

[@youzettasonsofdigits1639]

Someone may have already mentioned it but the Alakazam Arcanine situation your first psychic dropped Arcanines special so your second psychic would've killed it regardless of the range.

[@Magmatic07]

I have an idea for a VERY different versus video. Pokemon BW; Zebstrika vs. Rapidash, with the same races as the gen 1 fossil vs. challenge. 1; Fastest/lowest level starting with pre-evos. 2; Fastest/lowest level starting with the evolved forms. 3; Elite 4 with no resets. It'll be interesting due to the move diversity.

[@lizgutierrez5498]

Another great video from Great Scott! I'm hyped for the starter showdown if and when you get that done! Anyways, here's some fun facts for you! Fun fact: Alakazam us actually based on a Kitsune, a Japanese Fox Spirit, which are said to be super intelligent and have psychic powers. That's also why Ninetails, who is also a kitsune, but more specifically a 9-tailed fox, can learn extrasensory or psyshock in later generations. Another fun fact: my wife and I are planning to do a Clefable/Gengar gijinka cosplay for Halloween this year! Also, I love the little fourishes of music you put in for when you do battles or go to different places. Reminds me of how in Black and White the music will change slightly if you're walking, or close to certain landmarks on the map. I've been listening to a lot of Pokémon Stadium music since I've been drawing a bunch of scenes of Stadium fights for my next chapter, so, if it's not too much of a hassle, I'd say maybe look into plugging some Stadium music in here and there to break up the monotony of the Gameboy fight music here and there with some classic N64 soundfont. Anyway, I should close this, before I write a novel. As always, keep up the amazing videos, and GLHF on futute challenges!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Haha in my other life I may actually be a musician. The musical sync matters a lot to me in these videos :)

[@N0Fumar]

I have yet to actually watch one of your videos. I enjoy listening to them on my drives. You could probably screenshot this comment and include it and I'd never know. Keep up the great vids!

[@aresalexanderpeverell3152]

Beautifully done. Just subscribed you and I'm very interested to see your remaining content as well as to see what you'll be coming with. Keep going, man! You'll set KZbin on fire with a Blast Burn🔥🔥

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Great to have you here Ares!

[@attackonyugioh92]

This dude is awesome. Definitely in my top 3 poketubers. Can't wait til he blows up into a million subs I'm sure it will be in no time ! And I tho currently new here will be the og listener that predicted it all, just happy to be here:)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much UnOrdinaryGamers !, I'm loving every moment of making these videos. Can't wait to see what the future holds for the channel, I hope your prediction comes to pass!

[@garryfischer3679]

Are you possibly thinking about a team rocket themed run? lickitung, arbok, meowth, weezing. Also i literally lold at the not giving Alakazam Psychic

[@mariusweber4990]

I really like this format, the head-to-head makes even repeated games interesting!

[@rylanleung7524]

Could you do Dustox vs Beautifly in Emerald?

[@akira3871]

Ok now we need to see Ghastly vs Abra and Haunter vs Karabra! Best 2 out of 3 can be crowned the best evolutionary line :)

[@darklink2300]

Have you considered a Vs. tournament arc where you have 64 or 128 pokemon to start with, and with the winners you race again with the knowledge you have gained from originally racing them to get better times, this could be a sort of long term content, but you would have to establish set rules for the entirety of the tournament.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Shhhh

[@PainfulJoy]

So, I have a thought. Instead of a 1 on 1 speed comparison for a video, what about a three-way comparison? The main event we've all been waiting for, the Legendary Bird Triple Threat Match! Articuno vs Moltres vs Zapdos!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Eeveelutions, Birds, and Beasts are all planned.