Scrapped Steam Trains | Lost Locomotives

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[@williamtown4058]

The Great Western Railway had a major loss, the entire broad gauge fleet back in 1892.

[@DaiElsan]

And as far as I'm aware, no OO scale broad gauge models either.

[@CW56]

Dave Lewis there should be soon.

[@williamtown4058]

Dave Lewis Unless there is kitbuilds of them in different gauges.

[@williamtown4058]

Reny Rex I hope so too.

[@marklinehan6000]

gwr is my favorite railway company as my model layout is a gwr branchline

[@Alpha-oo8]

Apparently the new BR Standard class 3 is only a couple of years from completion too! So, there’s at least three new members of lost locomotives coming sometime in the next decade. There’s the new P2, the new patriot and a new standard class 3. And recently, the saint class was resurrected after the converted a manor/hall? Locomotive into “lady of legend”. There’s a few more locos on the cards too, like a new county class (which is a long way to go from completion, but has progressed enough that there is something to photograph. There’s also ANOTHER p2 in the works, a replica of “cock of the north” but I think it may be the streamlined variation. Even here in Australia there’s a new steam build in the works, a Victorian railways V class locomotive, but that one is a looooooooooong way off being competed. So, lots of new steam on the horizon!

[@RobA500]

Ah go on Sam admit it, you like the Tango really it’s still running even after its swim. Great video, there are some lovely locomotives now sadly gone.

[@SamsTrains]

haha I'm impressed by that - I will say that much! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@pascomapping593]

choopoo choopoo!

[@leroyholm9075]

Keep going Sam you are doing a great job. In 1950 we had 18,000 steam locomotives, due to availability for every 2 working one had to be kept steam in reserve. To give you some idea of availability and endurance for every 3.4 steam locomotives available they could be replaced by one Diesel. Now you understand the enormous manpower needed. As a person trained on GWR locos, it took six men starting at 6am to get a modified hall or castle ready for duty and a Castle has 70 oiling points. The result was evenvitable.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Leroy - wow was it as many as that? Absolutely astonishing! D: Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@sambrown6426]

sam, can you please do a running session with one-of-the-class-left engines please, thanks sam and keep up the great work

[@andosrailway2369]

Sheryl Brown Including diesels with mixed in with Steam

[@SamsTrains]

That sounds cool - I'll have to look that up! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@dravenwalsh225]

@@SamsTrains there is one Garrett locomotive left but it has just been abandon in a field and most likely needs a total overhaul

[@lukeslocomotives]

LNWR 0-8-0s: The G1 had a small boiler, The G2 had a large boiler, The G2A was originally a G1 that has been rebuilt with the boiler off a G2. All of the G1s and G2As were cut up, however one G2, 49395, still survives.

[@SamsTrains]

Many thanks for the info Luke, appreciate that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lukeslocomotives]

@@SamsTrains Might I add that G2As sometimes were given a G1 boiler if no other G2 boilers were available thus becoming G1 again and this happened all the time.

[@cameronmcilroy8261]

The Beyer Garatt is definitely my favourite in that one

[@SamsTrains]

Good choice Cameron - I love those too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@alanrobertson1055]

@@SamsTrains My son Innes wanted me to get in touch to say that there is a Beyer Garratt preserved in Manchester science museum, looks same colour and style as your model: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beyer-Garratt_Class_GL_loco,_Beyer,_Peacock_%26_Co._Ltd,_1929,_MOSI,_Manchester,_July_2007_(9883683244).jpg

[@connorthecalledonian6302]

Fascinating

[@animeboy9307]

I Love this model but isn't he running backwards on videos?

[@lukeslocomotives]

16:40 is it just me or is the tangos handrail sticking further out

[@JohnNack]

Well, it is heljan, so.

[@cameronbradley4]

Knowing the 02 it probably is!

[@SamsTrains]

Yep - I kept fixing it back in place, but got tired of it in the end ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kushcrusad3rgb549]

Oh yea

[@aviationdream5960]

definitly agree makes her look like a toy! great content sam! :)

[@atruebluefriend]

Quite a few familiar faces from Sodor to be seen in this video: Molly, Belle, Thomas and Arthur...while it's sad that their classes were scrapped, at least they're keeping the legacy of their fallen brethren alive!

[@CW56]

Arthur and Belle do have surviving classmates.

[@Mizzinno]

While its not the same exact thing, there is a coal fired Thomas replica built out of a 0-6-0 Porter in America

[@thebrainlesstrainfan]

Arthur and belle are the same class

[@tgeiii3554]

@@thebrainlesstrainfan Arthur is an Ivatt 2MT Belle is a Standard 4MT tank

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah you're right - you might see some familiar fireboxes there ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@OlivierGabin]

In France, dozens of highly interesting steam locomotives had never been preserved, we do not have a culture of industrial history as you have in Great Britain, and it is a shame. Anyway, I had seen a mainline 4-8-2 preserved in tour visiting my hometown of Grenoble two years before, I have pictures of her, I can send you some if you are interested. I just checked and I've just seen that I had not transfered them from my camera, blitz it ! I've got some ideas of videos if you are interested. First, why not make one about the locomotives you think that are iconic british ones ? And you can also make a serie of video based on the wheel pattern of the locomotives : Mogul Melody, Ten-wheelers Temptations, Craving for Consolidations, Praise the Pacifics, 0-6-0 are go, 0-6-2 I love you, et cetera... Another idea : a video dedicated to oddballs, like the Garrat and the Cock o'the North. I have no doubts that you will make some interesting videos like this one. Keep on the good job !

[@crouchingtigerhiddenadam1352]

Some French locomotives, especially the compounds were genius creations.

[@barryosullivan5255]

Oh trust me, over here in Ireland it is way worse. Only 38 five foot gauge locos preserved if i remember it correctly

[@SamsTrains]

Great to hear so many were preserved Oliver - I'd love to see more of them!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

Very heartbreacking... 16:03 that is my favourite too! Like I said before, this one reminds me to our italian Gr 740 steamer! She isn't the more powerfull, but she is the more reliable of italian steamers. Born into 20' and operated untill the 75', pulling passengers, goodies and military equipments. Today some of those Gr 740 are used to special historical trains in Italy! Yes... I love it! :D

[@The_bike_guy_hooligans05]

Low Range Maniac why are the hand rails so long ?

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

@@The_bike_guy_hooligans05 to be fair I didn't notice that

[@The_bike_guy_hooligans05]

Lol

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot for the comments mate! Yes the handrails are loose - I got tired of putting them back in place ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@mycluck2353]

I've seen the pictures from Barry scrapyards, and seeing all of those engines lined up closely together waiting to be scrapped made me quite sad. :( It is nice though that there are projects to rebuild lost engines, and that is something I'm sure we're all grateful for :)

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah those photos are very sad - I get it mate :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@blatherskite9601]

As a kid, I'd wander down there and climb on those poor, sad locos. Many were marked for restoration, but I remember particularly one huge driving wheel where someone had cut a chunk out of the rim with a gas axe... Why do that, wrecking the wheel?

[@marty6779]

Ironically a vast majority of the engines from Barry were rescued, 213 of 297. Some of which were still cut up for spare parts, but still, it actually indirectly helped in developing the the preservation movement

[@Kris-qy7hh]

Really nice video! I liked seeing these engines run together. Keep it up!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Kris - really glad you liked this one! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@roryanderson7808]

All of them are my favorite

[@SamsTrains]

haha me too!! ;D

[@alexfogg381]

Same here.

[@natureman494]

At least you guys in the train hobby have more preserved than us in the ocean liner community.

[@NorbertRoll]

Hi Sam, a really great presentation. In Great Britain, many different beautiful steam locomotives were scrapped and none of the class has survived. The same here in Germany. Many were scrapped here too. Especially special, unique locomotives or prototypes. Too bad, because they are masterpieces of technology and part of the history. Without private individuals, donations, support groups, railway enthusiasts, and clubs in Great Britain and Germany, many more locomotives would have been scrapped and would not have been preserved. Cheers Norbert

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Are any of the Class 23 2-6-2 still alive? The famous "semifahrtlok", as an Austrian friend called it.

[@NorbertRoll]

@@robertwilloughby8050 Yes Robert, 8 DB Class 23 have survived, 3 are running in The Netherlands. 5 are in Germany, one as a public monument, 3 in museums, and one is running. And I have one as model loco. Cheers Norbert

[@robertwilloughby8050]

@@NorbertRoll Thank you muchly.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Norbert - yes sadly it happened a lot, a great shame :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@F-Man]

No views, 28 likes, 10 comments. Great job, KZbin 🤣

[@SamsTrains]

haha!

[@Gordons1888]

Its because everyone comments and likes before watching the video smh

[@susannahrinker727]

@@Gordons1888 r/woooooooosh

[@davidtucker8724]

Good video! Though I'm sure 2 LMS fairburn tanks are preserved on the lakeside and hatherwaite railway.

[@SamsTrains]

There are some LMS tanks preserved, but none of those that I showed! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lukeslocomotives]

Yes 42073 and 42085

[@realsupernova222]

@@SamsTrains the 060 wasn't that the locomotive that inspired James? Also I do believe that at least one was preserved

[@ThatRailwayEngineer]

Hi Sam! I realise some people may have already pointed this out but there is one Beyer Garrett in preservation at the Manchester MOSI Museum Powerhouse. Whether it runs or not I have no idea but I do have many recollections of sitting on its buffers while my mother took photos as a child! Great video and was interesting to hear about other lost Locomotives!

[@stephenwilliams1269]

I always enjoy watching Sams videos. Informative and such a vast collection. Keep up the sterling job you do for us guys that no longer have trains.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Stephen - appreciate it mate! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@erikhobby6542]

16:17 that thing still works after it's swim in the pool?

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah it does - I must say I'm impressed about that, though I did strip it down and dry it thoroughly ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thebrainlesstrainfan]

3:02 noooo

[@thebrainlesstrainfan]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@thebrainlesstrainfan]

Not the j50s😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@SamsTrains]

I know :'(

[@johnd8892]

Lot of talk about scraping in the comments. Scraping is a good sign for a locomotive as it means the locomotive is being prepared for a new paint job. That always helps to prevent a loco being scrapped. Scrapping is the thing we dread. We should give thanks for the preservationists spending many hours with a scraper getting rid of old paint, rusty patches, dirt and oil build up. This scraping work saved many a railway item from the scrappers. I also give thanks to my primary school teachers and reading books with correct spelling to prevent confusion. Spelling not valued so much by some any more. Potential employers may value it though.

[@SamsTrains]

haha I didn't notice the scraping comments John - I can't have been paying attention, haha! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@deel399]

All those locos look beautiful! Shame they were scrapped😕 Great vid! -Dj

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks DJ - it really is a great shame :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@spitfire3791]

And then Sam you could make a video with all the preseverd trains. 😂

[@SamsTrains]

That'd be awesome -great idea!! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@someguy3162]

He did

[@finley1578]

Good idea but it would be about 2 hours long-

[@lukeslocomotives]

@@finley1578 *2 days

[@Bittern19]

4:18 hahahaaha

[@SamsTrains]

haha! ;D

[@alexfogg381]

I am glad that there are new builds of the Patriot class, lner p2 class, Gwr Grange class, lner B17, LBSC H1. Just to name a few.

[@SamsTrains]

Me too - it's a wonderful effort isn't it?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@alexfogg381]

@@SamsTrains ,indeed it is good sir.

[@austinbrodzinski4444]

I'm a huge New York Central fan here in the U.S., and very few of their steam locomotives were preserved. Two 0-6-0 switchers and two 4-8-2 "Mohawks" and that's just about it. None of the famous J class Hudson 4-6-4s (of which 275 were built), K class Pacific 4-6-2s (tons were built), G class Consolidation 2-8-0s (again, countless were built), or S class Niagara 4-8-4s (27 I believe were built) survive. A lesser known class, the NE-2's, were a large group of 2-6-6-2 Mallets built originally for the Boston & Albany (a New York Central subsidiary), and these are one of my favorite classes of locomotives. One NE-2 was almost preserved in Minerva, Ohio (they were called "Minerva Mallets" because they were maintained and based largely in Minerva, a town which is actually about an hour from where I live in Ohio) but the town of Minerva turned it down! What a shame!

[@SamsTrains]

Cheers Austin - great to hear some of those got saved too! I've heard a lot about the J class - I'd love to get one of those! Thanks for all the info, Cheers, Sam :)

[@austinbrodzinski4444]

@@SamsTrains If you are serious about getting a J class, I'd recommend trying to track down either a newer Broadway Limited Imports model (with Paragon2 sound and smoke) or perhaps an older Rivarossi model. I have the older Paragon1 model of BLI's Hudson and although the sound is older I love it! The wheels, however, are made from a different metal and collect dirt easily, but I think BLI has a warranty where they'll send replacements - something to look into!

[@NwrDuck]

Yes, the pannier Thank engines were preserved.... Yes, it has to do with Duck from Thomas and friends

[@SamsTrains]

Yes indeed - lots of those still around! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TheJmnewton]

Very nice. I would love to see, on track one, the gs4 daylight engine and on track three the Stevenson rocket. The extremes of steam.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks John - that would be awesome wouldn't it? And probably terrifying for Rocket! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@tomwatts703]

These videos always make me want to break out my models again, though being a student away from home I don't really have the space for that. Maybe in a couple of decades...

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Tom - hopefully you'll get the time one day! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@rydermike33]

Great video Sam, really well researched and presented. One of the saddest things in British Railway history was the haste in which steam was consigned to the scrapyard! Some wonderful locos only a few years old and just thrown away! Terrible.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Mike - yes it's very sad indeed :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@mcollier4566]

Similarly to the G2 and G2a debate, you are quite right that none of the 2-cylinder Stanier 2-6-4Ts were preserved. Very fortunately, the NRM in York is home to a 3-cylinder variant number 2500. The ROD 2-8-0 was a Robinson design for the Great Central Railway. You are correct that none of the ROD examples which were taken into GWR service after WW1 survived into preservation. However, some of the GCR examples (some of which served in the ROD) ended up being taken into LNER and BR ownership and overhaul has just started on 63601, owned by the NRM and based at the Great Central Railway in Loughborough.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes absolutely - I've seen the 3-cylinder, very lovely machine indeed! Thanks for the info! Cheers, Sam :)

[@skalemodelkorner289]

I think my favourite had to be the P2, and for the ones you ran, maybe the B17! Great vid!

[@SamsTrains]

Good choice - yeah the P2 is amazing! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

Quite a collection Sam!! 👍👍 Is a bit bittersweet... Poor Thompsons. Were they all rubbish? Had to give me Wife a hard time... Her maiden name was Thompson!! 😜😆 Several very handsome examples. Mate, if you're weird for loving old Steam... Then I'm downright DAFFY!! Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

The Garrett was a true BEAST!! On par with the American behemoths.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate - I don't know if they were all rubbish, but some of them were ;) Ooh dear - I'm sure she didn't take that too well ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@robmasterman]

You must be congratulated on the work put into producing this particular upload Sam. A fascinating watch and good to know, that the manufacturers have produced such Gems, so that they will never be forgotten....Bob

[@SamsTrains]

Bless you Bob, thanks a lot mate - appreciate it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@chriswilson2431]

Love the theme music to this video Sam. I play the trumpet and cornet and also the clarinet and wondered what the name of it was? Great video as always! I visited the new model rail shop in sheringham last Wednesday by your recommendation, and it is a little gem. Really modern and bright, lots of room for more stock as the business hopefully grows. Very reasonable prices and well worth a look!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Chris - it's called fun time by DJ quads - based on the original, please don't talk about me when I'm gone - quite fitting! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@foxhillrailway2252]

the tangoo has a prob with it's hand rail lol great video Sam

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah it does - I got tired of fixing it ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@peterward2275]

Love the way Google auto-subtitles you as "Sam Strains" 😆

[@vincentmorris8431]

While the Railway Series only featured 11 steam and around 6 diesels, it was stated in one big book there were around 80 on Sodor (not counting the TV series only ones). We don't know how many of them are diesel, though with Sodor's works said to be capable of any locomotive overhaul, and engines said to have been built from there (despite no other mentioning) perhaps some classes had been built out of extinction, or developed their own classes.

[@SamsTrains]

Cool Vincent - thanks a lot for letting me know! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

15:52 I love the way the wheels turn on the Grange class. Especially when it’s the weathered version with the dirty wheels. It looks satisfying just seeing this engine get to work and it already gets pretty dirty! :P

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah me too - it looks wonderful doesn't it?! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@peteryoung4957]

I enjoyed seeing them all. I think most of the GWR steam trains ended up at Barry's in South Wales. The reason there's more GWR engines than the other railway companies today.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Peter - yes you're right about that!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

My favourite?? Any 2-8-0 or 2-8-2 really. Short Brutes, designed for grunting heavy Freight! Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@SamsTrains]

Great choice there - I love locos with 8 coupled wheels too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jedyahcamacho8335]

Hello Sam!!! I'm glad to see you running the B17, but you didn't mention how some of them where streamlined. Nonetheless, great video, and I can't wait for the next

[@SamsTrains]

I didn't mention that - I'd love if Hornby made a streamlined one though! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@operastudio1238]

Out of curiosity I’ve googled the Garrat, and it seems there’s one (a South African GL class, but still totally English) at the museum of science and industry in Manchester. Wikipedia also says that the Garrats are still in use in South Africa (could be interesting to know if anyone can take videos of one of those).

[@SamsTrains]

There are quite a lot of Garratts preserved - but no LMS Garratts to my knowledge! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@nickdaniels4899]

The turoomotive was converted in to a conventional locomotive, a princess royal no less. 46203, Princess Anne. And she was destroyed in the Infamous accident at Harrow and wealdstone in 1952, this of course was the instigation to build a 3 cylinder locomotive to replace her, 71000 Duke of Gloster. As for the Garratt, The actual wheel configuration was a 2-5-0 jplus 0-6-2. the wheel sets were initially set back to back effectively on these Garratt machines. i hope this info helps. Nick.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Nick - yes I remember reading about it - a dreadful stroke of bad luck! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@skarloeyno1510]

Grate video I think Thompson tryed to save the P2 by rebuilding because the original P2 locos weren't reliable until Thompson rebuiled them

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you!! You're probably right there actually! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TheNightmareRider]

I find it ironic that the standard gauge Bayer Garratts were never that successful, but the narrow gauge versions (some of which were noticeably *bigger*) were not just popular exports, but have been rather well preserved! I may have said on the review of that Garratt model, but the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester has a preserved (static) South African Railways GL class garratt. At cape gauge (1 meter/3ft something), it is a true giant among giants!

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah that's true - though a lot of overseas Garratts were much more successful I hear! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Alpha-oo8]

I’d love to see an updated version of this video

[@brianartillery]

Strangely, one of the saddest, and, if you were a child, most disturbing images of engine destruction is to be found in 'Stepney The Bluebell Engine', by the Rev.W. Awdrey. It shows a yard (suspiciously like Barry Island), with engine scrap visible, and a worried looking engine watching a workman with an oxy-acetylene torch... That image really bothered me as a kid.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that's a point - very sad indeed about that :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@E350tb]

There are in fact three RODs preserved - in Australia, in fact. They got sent down in the 1920s to work on coal traffic and lasted into the 1970s.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh nice - yes I had a feeling some non-gwr versions got saved! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@plagued_inferno6059]

I think the reason why the j50 tank engine is so popular is because technically, Thomas was originally a j50. (The creator of the series made a wooden toy of it for his son, who then named it Thomas.)

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're right - no doubt that is true! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@srgntsylveon2919]

One thing i hate to see is a lack of preserved locos, but at least we have heritage railways like the GCRN, which i started my work experience with them today

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah me too - though you're right, we do have lots that were saved! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@deauvilledad07]

Excellent stuff Sam. Nice to see the less fortunate classes of loco running if only in model form. Well done 🤓

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Anthony - glad you enjoyed that! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@trainman07011]

Wow, amazing how many were lost considering how many survived. I think the UK did the best job of any country preserving steam locomotives. The US certainly started preservation efforts far too late.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely Andrew - it's quite shocking! A great shame preservation wasn't considered sooner :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Lotus-S70]

Chances are, some thought to be scrapped locomotives are just very decayed or even sitting in a forgotten shed somewhere.

[@michaelschultz5127]

I think I'm in love with the LMS version. Smashing locos.

[@charliesrailwayadventures9351]

Brilliant video Sam! A G2A was preserved but a G2 wasn’t.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh are you sure?! I thought it was a G2 preserved?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@mytinplaterailway]

Thanks for that. You'll be able to add a 'Hush Hush' to that lot later in the year. Not steam of course, but I wish the unique Hawker Siddeley 4000 Kestrel (HS4000) had been saved. Unique and very nice looking thing, colour scheme included. Heljan have made one.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - all being well of course!! I'll have to look that 4000 Kestrel up! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@FeatherWing162]

Sam, just so you know, I believe that the P-2 is being rebuilt. In other words, I saw a news article at one point that said a P-2 was being built. So we might have a P-2 back with us

[@SamsTrains]

You're right - I can't wait until they're done! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@trr94001]

Those large UK tank engines were beautiful machines.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - I agree they were! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kellyashfordtrains2642]

While the GWR Grange is indeed smaller than the Hall engines, you forgot to mention one other thing. The design of the Grange Engines was used to create something a little smaller in size than that: the Manor Engines. I've only said the GWR Grange engine would be my favourite out of the scrapped model engines you have, to put a smile on your face. As a contribution to getting Betton Grange up and running, I bought a hat bearing the engine's name and number, which is 6880. The engine was supposed to be up and running in 2018, but it's not happening yet. Another new-build, Patriot Engine The Unknown Warrior, was supposed to be steaming a year before (2017). That hasn't materialised either. This is because, due to Foxy being on loan to WSR for so long, the Llangollen Railway is now in grave danger of going bankrupt. I'm doing my bit to fight to keep it alive for other enthusiasts to enjoy. Don't let this info upset you if you can help it. I'm just telling the true story the way it has unfolded. I don't want to see the Llangollen Railway turn back into greenery.

[@SamsTrains]

That's very true Kelly - very sorry for glossing over that point! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@peterheath9002]

Good little video .I am also amazed that so many lost locos have been modelled with no prototypes to help with dimensions. you have missed the J70 tram loco.which I know you have! Also aP2 2-8-2,but you'll have to open your wallet again soon for the upcoming Hornby A2/2,W1 etc. It is great that aD16 and B17, have appeared from Hornby.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Peter - yes absolutely, locos like that must have been incredibly difficult to research! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TheNightmareRider]

"This is going to be a bit of a sad (video) today." (Immediately plays upbeat jazz music to the running trains) I have to admit, I found that juxtaposition funny XD.

[@TheNightmareRider]

@john wilks That's... surprisingly fitting, if a little tonally dissonant!

[@TheNightmareRider]

@john wilks Huh, that's extra impressive!

[@SamsTrains]

haha - yes I chose the song for that reason ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@matic713]

They are all very beautiful. It's such a shame that they aren't preserved (it is a crime). Nice video

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - it almost is a crime :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bryantan863]

There is a new GWR Grange class being built at the Llangollen railway and the locomotive's number and name is No. 6880 Betton Grange. The new Saint class was finished last year at the Dicot Railway Centre.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I heard about that - very exciting stuff! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@charliesmith1461]

Informative and interesting from the man who can talk about a pen for more than 10 mins!

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks very much Charlie!! ;D

[@helenbritton3977]

Who needs the real thing when you have Hornby 😂 nice video. Very sad about all those engines. Keep it up! Really bad about Cock o the North, such a unique design. Edit: had to get the cow in, 17:22, 😁

[@SamsTrains]

haha this is very true most of the time! haha well spotted with Bullman! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@raymondleggs5508]

Pennsylvania's 4-4-4-4 t1 Duplexes. Pennsylvania's 6-8-6 S2 Turbine locomotives, New York Central's J1a Hudsons, New York Central's Niagara's, All of New Haven's steam fleet, Boston and Albany's 4-8-2's with the weird feed-water heater that made the front of the locomotive look like it had a hat brim, Clinchfield and Denver and Rio Grande's 4-6-6-4 Challengers, Louisville and Nashville's "Big Emma" 2-8-4's Santa Fe's 2-10-10-2 mallets, the Erie 2-8-8-8-2 triplex. Indiana harbor Belt's 0-8-0 Yard goats.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh those sound good! :O

[@owenslanejunction7544]

There is a group building a B17, there also are 2 p2s being built, there is a new patriot being built, there are 2 countys being built one at tysely and one at didcot, there is a new grange being built, there is a standard class 3 tank being built at severn valley railway

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I heard about some of those - amazing projects on the way!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@owenslanejunction7544]

@@SamsTrains yeah

[@dannywest7587]

Scraped steam trains,more plastic for the sea!!

[@mickmac8300]

You might find some of the extinct in Down Under. Brisbane film on local steam tank engines look familiar. Beyer-Garret (6029) Junee to Goulburn. Good video. Couple of vintage diesels on the historic trains assist if needed but primarily used for electricity. Seems like the generator cars were forgotten.

[@SamsTrains]

You're right Mick - some Garratts certainly survive, but none of the LMS design do! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@RailwayProductions-nd3tx]

The static version of the GWR Dean single is at Windsor and Eton Central station.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh very cool - is that the fake one?? Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@RailwayProductions-nd3tx]

@@SamsTrains yes, strange as only the loco was constructed, no tender.

[@RailwayProductions-nd3tx]

@@stevebarnes2 ahhhh, interesting, didn't know that so thank you!

[@leonardkaczmark6354]

While none of the British Beyer-Garratts no longer exist, I have discovered that there are still at least four examples still alive and well down in Australia. Two even are still running!

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're right indeed - I've seen photos of quite a few of them! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thequietestengine]

I'm lucky in that 2 of my favourites, the LBSCR Gladstone and the J15, both have preserved examples out there (The Gladstone an hour away from where I live too!) but my 3rd favourite, the 3F tender loco, well.... at least there are some Jintys out there to carry the torch for their brother engines in some form. Thank you for the vid, Sam, was great to see these locos running :>

[@SamsTrains]

Yes indeed - I'm very glad that those were saved too - beautiful machines! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@SirThanxalott]

There was a three cylinder one designed by stand here that is in the national collection of which I have seen with my own eyes in 2017. At the time it was in its LMS black livery

[@024crosby2]

the Turbomotive was rebuilt into a Princess Class called, "Princess Anne", and it was destroyed in 1952, and replaced by Duke Of Gloucester

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh yes you're absolutely right - I remember reading about that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lukeslocomotives]

There was one group who said they'd built a new K3. Then they said it was a K6 instead. Now there trying to build one and said they want to build an engine to run at 140mph on a REGULAR basis :/

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh interesting - fingers crossed for that then! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@olliemckprice9428]

It’s a shame some of these locos are gone - loved the review- Ollie

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Ollie - yeah it's a great shame :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thewrays491]

RIP lost locos

[@SamsTrains]

Yes indeed :(

[@bentullett6068]

It's a shame non of these locomotives survived. Although there are some new builds that represent the scrapped locomotives these are the GWR Saint class (Lady of Legend), the patriot (unknown warrior), 3MT tank engine (being built at the Severn Valley Railway) and the P2 (Prince of Wales). There are also examples of the standard gauge Garrett locomotives in south Africa and Australia and the narrow gauge ones in north Wales on the Welsh Highland line.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Ben - yes it's a great shame indeed - glad to see the new builds coming along though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Zombie0010101]

Rejoice! There are in fact plans for new builds of both the D16, appropriately to be named “Phoenix,” and a J39!

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh I'd just love to see those come to fruition! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@colinonbike]

The Turbomotive was rebuilt into 46202 Princess Anne in 1952. The front end resembled the Coronation pacifics rather than the princess royal class and was therefore designated a Princess Anne type. Regrettably it was involved in the double collision in October 1952 at Harrow & Wealdstone. The engine was beyond economic repair and was scrapped.

[@colinonbike]

I meant to add, other locomotives involved in the Harrow & Wealdstone collision was Jubilee 45637 Winward Islands that piloted Princess Anne was also very badly damaged and withdrawn from service. Coronation Pacific 46242 City of Glasgow that headed the Perth - Euston sleeper train was repaired and returned to service. The Fowler 2-6-4 42589 was I damaged and returned to service. The biggest loss was 112 people lost their lives. There are a number of books that examine the Harrow & Wealdstone accident, it is well worth reading and understand the changes it brought in

[@SamsTrains]

Duly noted Colin - that engine certainly had quite a story!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@NW2174Fan]

I think the fact that LNER made their garratt (The LNER U1) two years before the LMS made their garratts also played a part. I mean, both of them were rivals during the steam age

[@62c39]

The 30 scrapped engines will live it's legacy trough these toys.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're right there!! :D

[@cremilar]

I'm very happy to tell you that a Garrett is survived in Bressingham Steam Museum on static display

[@Locomattive8572]

cremilar it isn’t a ex LMS Garratt though.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah you're right - but not an LMS one sadly :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TrainFan_95]

There is a Stanier 2-6-4t preserved, at the NRM, but it is a 3 cylinder version rather than the 2 cylinder variant depicted by Hornby. It looks pretty much identical, though.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're right - they do look very similar! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Old_Known29]

Another amazing video Sam. Too badly these beautiful locomotives were scrapped

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much mate - it is too bad :'( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Alpha-oo8]

I’m looking forward to the new P2 locomotive... it’s looking good!

[@SamsTrains]

Awesome!! I'm looking forward to those as well! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@reliantrailways]

Love the GWR 4-6-0s ! Great video Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Me too Lettuce!! :D

[@Busandtrain123]

Thomson 01s have been rebuilt and currently there are 58 of them.

[@mineit5796]

I cant believe they scrapped the clock o’north disgusting such a unique engine as well

[@SamsTrains]

I know it - such a shame :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@user-ds1nv9op4r]

I like the weathering on that GWR Grange, It reminds me abit of my GWR Large Prairie and my LMS 8f (both of those locos are weathered)

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah me too! It's actually reasonably well done! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@runningpenguin9176]

We are gathered here today to remember those locomotives who fell victim to the scrap yard those locomotives from the SR, GWR, LMS, AND LNER will be remember by all train fans.

[@SamsTrains]

haha well said! :D

[@risingsun101ch]

Great video as always! I know they are technically a different class, but for anyone wanting to see something very closely related to an LMS 2P or a Stanier tank, come to Ireland ;) There is an NCC 4-4-0 very similar to a 2P/Midland Compound in the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum and a NCC WT tank very similar to the Stanier tank in the Whitehead railway museum as part of the RPSI 😍

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - ooh yes you're right, I've seen photos of that one! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Joeben2016]

Great vid Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Joe! :D

[@lukeslocomotives]

Sam iv had an idea. Having done lost locos, why not resurrected locos? Basically you do this video again but with steam engines being built at the moment. Here's a list: COMPLETED GWR Saint LNER Peppercorn A1 GWR Steam Railmotor UNDER CONSTRUCTION BR Class 2 2.6.2t BR Class 3 2.6.0 BR Class 3 2.6.2t BR Class 6 4.6.2 LNER D7 LNER D16 LNER F5 GWR 10XX GWR 38XX GWR 47XX GWR 68XX SR H2 LMS Unrebuilt Patriot LNER B17 (x2) LNER P2 (x2) LNER V4 LNWR George The 5th LNER G5 LNWR BLOOMER PROPOSED LMS Fowler 4mt 2.6.4t LMS Rebuilt Patriot LNER K3 LNER V3 SR E LNER Small Ben CANCELLED LNER J50 SR E2 GWR 2221 LMS Caprotti Black 5 LMS Hughes Dreadnaught LNER J39 LMS Claughton

[@SamsTrains]

That's a fantastic idea - thanks very much for that mate! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@peterfoxon5498]

The only other BR standard engine (as far as I know) not preserved is the standard 6 or clan class which lasted until 1966. Hornby did make a clan class a few years ago but it wasn't for very long which is why they go for nearly £300 on ebay!!.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh okay, thanks a lot for letting me know about that - that's a shame :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@HA1LILPALAZZO]

they're releasing LNER A5s soon which I am excited about because they are very pretty tank locomotives and they are best looking in GCR colours :3 also I have a B17 (Manchester United) in Apple Green but I am after Grimsby Town now for personal reasons

[@spudy1000]

There are a few that long term will return the p2 currently is being built by the people that built tornado! They have also announced future locos they plan to bring back from scrap including gresley v4 and v3 and k3!

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah you're right - I can't wait to see some of those, incredible stuff! Thanks for watching - Sam :)