SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME: More Plot Holes and Unanswered Questions, EXPLAINED

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Spider-Man No Way Home weaves a delicate web of a story. It balances villains and heroes from three franchises, Dr. Strange, magic, and has to be a satisfying movie in its own right. With so many plates spinning, there are going to be some unanswered questions or plot holes. So, we're here to answer them. Could Strange have made Thanos forget the infinity stones? Why doesn't Dr. Octopus acknowledge Curt Conners? How does the forgetting spell work? We've got theories.
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[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

I think dr strange use his forgetting spells around the world again to erase everyone memory of seeing arishem, he did this to avoid the world going into madness.

[@ValenteOchoaJr]

Is there a better go-to guy than Ryan? No. I appreciate all these explanation videos, far more superior to that British fellow 😏jk Paul

[@TheJankyTank]

Doctor who brings up "Perception filters" a lot and that might be a useful tool to help people understand the Peter Parker document erasure (imo its a little better than the obliviate spell from Harry Potter)

[@sureshmakwana8709]

Tbh this video wasn't so very much helpful, kinda got lil bit more confused

[@ClaudiaS_]

The movie doesn’t take place in October, because MJ’s boss says “How many times do I have to tell you to take down these Halloween decorations?” So it’s probably late November, almost Christmas time.

[@jamespiver7346]

Rockefeller square Christmas tree is still up at the end of the movie. It fell during Hawkeye so definitely around Christmas time

[@RicardoPetinga]

@@jamespiver7346 just because it fell doesn't mean they left it on the ground. I'm sure a team went to get it back up and fixed the next day. However, I think this bit of information about the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree on wikipedia explains everything: "The tree is put in place in mid November and lit in a public ceremony on the Wednesday evening following Thanksgiving." So, the end of the movie probably takes place before Hawkeye.

[@mediumvillain]

@@jamespiver7346 Yeah it fell, but it was surely put back up the next day. The proximity to both Halloween and Christmas time and the autumn leaves still on the trees probably places the events of the film mostly in November, possibly ranging from October to December. If its contemporaneous with the Hawkeye series then that would place it in November 2024, bc Hawkeye is supposed to take place in December 2024 (despite some things pointing to it taking place in 2025, which is confusing).

[@jamespiver7346]

I don't believe they could get it back up next day

[@LiterallySunGuy]

Also, there’s a part where Peter is falling through the mirror dimension and Christmas music is playing

[@muhammadali-px5zs]

the movie takes place in a few months but the halloween decorations were there only because MJ had forgotten to take them down (which her boss keeps nagging her to do )so it couldve been a while after halloween say( mid november) and the ending with the rockerfeller tree wasnt immediately after the battle and yea peter takes his time to grieve aunt may and get his life back on track so that makes sense

[@FZotto]

5:35 my wife said a joke about it that makes perfect sense. Spider are supernatural to sew webs, maybe, this super sewing ability is a superpower.

[@kikosawa]

Interesting. I want a movie about a variant of Peter Parker who assumed that all the powers he got from the spider's bite were supernatural sewing abilities. And lived happily as a curtains merchant

[@andrewshandle]

Yeah, the Sandman one is pretty clear, he wants the "box" back so he can hit the button...the other villains want the "box" back so they can destroy it or at least store it somewhere the button can't be hit so they don't get sent him to die.

[@Trayton]

Yeah, alot of people missed that. He tagged along with Electro but his goal was to press the button and go back home.

[@LordHammer33]

To me, the biggest plot hole with Sandman is why he wouldn't want to be human again?

[@andrewshandle]

@@LordHammer33 So at the beginning he's willing to do that, but when Osborn f's everything up at Happy's Condo he doesn't want to risk letting Spider-man save him (remember, he doesn't know about Toby or Andrew at this point) because getting home is a higher priority. For him, the path of least resistance is to team up with the villains and get the box so he can hit the button.

[@LordHammer33]

@@andrewshandle The problem is that he isn't willing at the beginning. He is heavily against the idea from the start despite being the one who should jump at the idea

[@kungalexander829]

@@LordHammer33 same with electro and green goblun being a human again sucks

[@BigWillProductions1]

I don't think he resisted because of the multiverse connection. I think his spider sense works the same as Andrew Garfield's did in ASM1. It compels his reflexes whether he wants it to or not, so being out of his own body doesn't make a difference. The last thing his body was doing was protecting the box. His reflexes are powerful enough to play keep away

[@luvcherry]

true, but also peter seems "in touch" with his mystical side enough to travel around in his astral form and re enter his body which dr strange was baffled he was able to do so I think the spider sense is a combination of reflexes and multiverse connections

[@jjeebo2563]

I think Tom's spider sense is better than the rest

[@brianlara6451]

@@jjeebo2563 it has a radar feel to it

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

​@@brianlara6451 tobey one slow mo everything

[@Halocene]

He literally says everyone in this world... The spell is earthbound in MCU. Won't even effect people in space.

[@jasdanvm3845]

Well, "World" doesn't really exclusively refers to a planet, it can be used, oddly, for something far bigger, like the entire Galaxy, or even Universe, so we just don't know.

[@jliller]

"World" has kind of a loose definition.

[@sneakernickel]

The original spell wasn't supposed to affect other realities either, yet we saw people from other realities come through. The spell itself may be intended for only this universe/reality/timeline, but because the events of Loki (and possibly Wandavision) may have made the realities unstable, it's kind of open for the writers of the movies that follow.

[@dr.bright5670]

The MCU is starting to feel like literal comics being brought to a new medium, and it makes me really happy. Before Endgame, the MCU films just felt like action movies starring known superheroes. I think this is because they aren't building up to a single conclusive story, instead they're building up several large stories at the same time which allows them each more creative freedom. I personally love the fact that Marvel had the guts to make a movie about the Eternals, because it tells me that they're becoming more confident with their work.

[@nguyenquoctoan6354]

I wasn't into comics because of their huge connections with each others that will make me go to wiki everytime something was referenced; I only read some titles my friends recommended to me. I am glad that I started my MCU journey was not too late, but my niece does lol.

[@djtheinfinitegamer7903]

People dont realize that Peter kept upgrading his web fluid. In Homecoming, it was v3.0. He could've kept ugrading it after that

[@Goosefang]

We are just curious about his web situation.

[@johnnydarko6187]

Because Peter learns from his mistakes

[@MoviesRemastered]

I literally can't get enough of your content.

[@donny1333]

Me too

[@allykwat]

Same.

[@coreysparks3531]

Same I actually find myself watching his videos more than I’ve been watching actual marvel content🤦🏼

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[@mischimischi7183]

Next round: If they had to be near the box, what about Venom? He definitely wasn't even in the same state.

[@heartlxss_lycan2312]

Because Strange didn't use the box to send them back bro, remember it got destroyed so with the spell he casted it most probably sent everyone back regardless of where they were

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

They weren’t in the same country unless Mexico became part of the US in the MCU

[@robertmills4591]

Different spell. At the end everyone got sent back by the hail mary spell, which is different to the spell that would have sent them hommw using the box (as the box was destroyed by this point in the movie).

[@mischimischi7183]

@@robertmills4591 Great job, guys thanks for clearing that up. In hindsight they should have used that spell in any case, since they couldn't be sure how many entities were pulled from their universes, or could they?

[@RicardoPetinga]

@@mischimischi7183 yeah but that last spell had a huge cost, which was MCU's Peter Parker becoming literally unknown by everyone, so it would only ever be a last resort, as it was.

[@IcyDiamond]

Honestly I’m surprised how much this movie actually made sense, there were some plot holes for sure but I feel there weren’t enough to distract from the main movie

[@mediumvillain]

I dont love the ending they settled on with the bizarre and not entirely explained magical erasing of Peter Parker, but a lot of what happened in the film is fun & enjoyable enough that it doesnt need a huge amount of explanation.

[@summertyme5748]

The movie makes zero sense. You are defending it as a fan, not based upon any logic in the story - as that is nonexistent.

[@themanonwheels.1890]

@@summertyme5748 maybe for you or other people like you? For me it made sense.

[@jordangosselin579]

@The Man On Wheels. makes total sense. Lol I dont know what they're talking about

[@gonk_ch]

@@themanonwheels.1890 it made sense to me

[@spideralexandre2099]

It's totally possible that Strange only thought of the box after sending Peter to go catch some villains. He says something to the effect of having to figure out a fix before Wong finds out.

[@ScreenCrush]

Do you have any more questions or plot holes?

[@aviralgaur1871]

Is it only me or did anyone else noticed that doctor strange's eye of agamotto glows when he uses magic in mirror dimensions. Also we know from doctor strange 1 that the mirror dimension comes under dormamu's region then how can Stephen strange bend mirror dimensions without drawing magic from dark dimension

[@djtheinfinitegamer7903]

@@aviralgaur1871 Mirror Dimension is different from Dark Dimension. Dormammu controls the Dark Dimension.

[@djtheinfinitegamer7903]

@@aviralgaur1871 You don't need to draw power from Dark Dimension to control Mirror Dimension. Rewatch doctor strange

[@IcyDiamond]

Is it just people on Earth who forget who Spidey is? Do Captain Marvel and the Guardians forget? How about that Venom symbiote left behind, does it forget it’s hive knowledge, are animals also effected by the spell?

[@Elvisbackpack]

Actually, the movie takes place in November, as MJ was told to take the Halloween decorations down. Several time skips occur from right at the beginning to the scene where Peter gets the Dr. Strange idea.

[@phoule76]

ha, "I'm no wizard, but..."

[@Biajuuu]

Ryan : you know, i'm something of a wizard myself

[@roger632]

The sheer impact NWH left on people is enough to override plot hole concerns. Even moreso than Avengers Endgame honestly. The movie was just phenomenal.

[@ricofed439]

2:22 But isn’t that exactly what he did? He made every villain across the multiverse forget Peter which is what stopped them from crossing over.

[@chappielivdahl]

Question: When Peter first visited Strange, if Peter actually properly formed how he wanted the spell to work before Strange started casting it (if he clarified that he wanted Ned, MJ, Happy, and May to still remember him), would it have worked better in that case? Strange was able to make edits to the spell so that MJ and Ned could remember him, but the more Peter requested changes mid-casting, the more the spell got out of hand. If he clarified who he wanted to still remember him before Strange casted the spell, would the events of No Way Home have never happened in that case?

[@solitudeguard2316]

What about the Avengers?

[@chappielivdahl]

@@solitudeguard2316 well, I mean, sure. It just probably wouldn’t make a huge difference, since most of them didn’t know Spidey’s secret identity anyway.

[@Trayton]

He could have said, as his last statement during the spell, everyone who knew before Beck put it out there should still know. This begs the question however, does Adrian Toomes not know its him anymore in Morbius?

[@MrJayateabug]

It would never have played out that way simply because we would not have ended up with the movie. You could also ask "Why did Strange even cast the spell for Peter?" same answer, so the movie would play out. Think of the writers of the movie as Kang the Conqueror creating scripts for this universe because essentially that is what they are. And the writers said "Let there be dumb mistakes made" and it was good. And on the sixth day they went out for pizza and beer.

[@re1a2911]

@@MrJayateabug i totally agree with you tho, and also, the explaination for the fact that this movie happened is because Strange didn't explained the spell completely to Peter, so not just Peter's fault, Strange too. Mistakes in these movie are what give us a story, don't be nitpicking on those unless it is way too dumb.

[@kiranr3104]

I have another question: how come every answer is "It's a varient"

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

Answer It a variant.

[@solitudeguard2316]

Because it's a variant.

[@JimmyHolloway30]

It’s a total cop-out. Very annoying.

[@thevoicelesswriter]

Considering they never explicitly said that they were from the Raimi films and the Webb films and the fact that they were taken from different points of time, then the possibility of them being variants of those films from different universes is very likely. And as the Watcher stated, "Where a single choice can branch out into infinite realities, creating alternate worlds from the ones you know."

[@DeepThinker193]

wait, are you a variant?..are we all variants?

[@TheMaelxich]

My biggest issue with the movie is just Peter: MAKE EVERYONE FORGET I'M SPIDERMAN Strange: ITS TOO LATE, THEYRE HERE Peter: MAKE EVERYONE FORGET ME Strange: OKAY that just does not make sense why one spell is possible but the other isn't. Especially since the seemingly more powerful spell would be erasing peter from existence, not just erasing the Peter/Spiderman relationship. loved it otherwise.

[@summertyme5748]

I agree with you but for me the whole film’s plot is just one plot hole after another, and they use nostalgia to perfume the stink. This is one of the worst written film’s in the MCU.

[@xeibei4804]

@Juzam Djinn this literally makes no sense.

[@WilliamMightyRed]

I used to think the time travel resolutions to problems usually created more logic issues and raised more questions than were ever answered. Now we have Dr. Strange and his "forgetting spells" to totally blow all that out of the water...

[@KidFresh71]

Glad to see your channel blowing up. Much deserved!

[@SweetMacguffin]

Another great review, Ryan. Keep ‘em coming..

[@jakeg3347]

For the green goblin identity thing, I assumed that after the body of the green goblin was recovered from the scene, the autopsy would have identified the body as Norman's. Since Ock is introduced to us after this, it would be safe to assume that he knew this because it would probably have made the mainstream news, given Osbornes notoriety.

[@robert-janthuis9927]

Peter returns the body to the Osborne residence at the end of the movie though.

[@jakeg3347]

@@robert-janthuis9927 that's true!

[@xeibei4804]

But then harry should have known the secrets of his father from the news bruh.

[@luvcherry]

I think it's safe to assume all the characters coming into the mcu could easily be variants (more statistically likely than the exact ones from the movies being summoned) which is why there are slight difference

[@LordHammer33]

Yeah, a character with Octavius intellect would have been able to figure out that Osborn dying coinsiding with the Green Goblin being stopped probably meant they were the same person

[@AaronShegrud]

they returned the stones, meaning no branches besides the one pruned in Loki.

[@bjarnerost2002]

I only lately discovered this channel. And my god do Iove it! So fun, informative and nerdy. Just as I like it😍

[@EpicMickeyFanOfficial]

Great video! Getting me hyped for when we'll next see the Vulture

[@kiyowokiyowo8862]

6:53 wrong. Strange can't cast the spell on Thanos since he's bald

[@souravsajeev4820]

Oh yeah that makes sense .

[@devika2545]

@@souravsajeev4820 pretty sure they just need DNA.

[@austinh7539]

But Dr. Strangers spell HAD to effect other people in other realities because that was the whole point right? The gateway was only open to people who know Peter Parker was spiderman in other realities and erasing their memories means that no one would be able to go through that portal into the MCU…. Thoughts?

[@WigantX]

That's what I understood from the movie. If they don't know who Peter is, then there is no reason for them to cross through universes to find him, hence messy portal door closes and everyone is safe

[@ricofed439]

Exactly, so everyone across the multiverse forgot Peter, even the people in the Raimi and TASM universes.

[@RicardoPetinga]

@@WigantX that doesn't mean that Strange's spell continues to work in the other universes after the portals are closed. The ones that didn't get to cross through probably go back to just being in their universes maybe a bit confused with what has just happened or with no recollection of it at all, and then because the portals are closed, Strange's magic ceases to have any effect on them and their memory comes back, but by then the spell has been corrected. Besides, it might have affected those that were already about to come through but not necessarirly everyone in every universe who knew but weren't being pulled yet, because it seemed they were coming in waves and not all at once, or there'd be an infinite number people there and there clearly wasn't.

[@timprimetal5380]

I interpreted this less as the spell affecting other universes and moreso “magnetically” attracting others into the MCU as a side effect.

[@luvcherry]

I think what made them get drawn into the mcu was the fact that he broke reality with the spell and it became peter centric since he was the focus of the spell so anyone with a connection could get sucked in, but when he cast the spell it repaired the barrier before(?) the effects would bleed into other realities so that's why it's possible they didn't forget

[@MontgomeryWenis]

Quentin's real name also wasn't actually Quentin. He specifically says, "Gutermann, your story about an inter-dimensional soldier named Quentin..." implying that his name was part of the story.

[@mediumvillain]

It implies it but doesnt prove it, and he's given no other name.

[@MontgomeryWenis]

@@mediumvillain But any rational person could figure out that if his name was implied to be part of the story, and no one figured out he was a previous Stark Industries employee, then that must not be his real name. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Besides, why would he use his real name anyway? He's a genius. Using his real name would be moronic. He would've known that.

[@Kyharra]

@@MontgomeryWenis you'd think the stark glasses would have some kind of failsafe for that or I'm guessing Tony didn't think Peter would just give it away

[@gregmanca1474]

Your channel is fantastic- thanks for all you do.

[@curtbraden7]

Right off the bat, first question…you answered the question that’s been driving me nuts about Mysterio and making everyone forget him and what he said. Best explanation I’ve heard. Thank you!!

[@DidWeWin1]

My favorite part of your videos is the doggo outro. This isn't an insult to your content. Its a complement to how cute your pup is :)

[@jadaba17]

Life's always better when a new screen crush video comes out

[@mr.dystopian5554]

Pretty sure Doc Ock could figure out on his own that Norman was the Green Goblin. It was Oscorp tech the Goblin was using after all.

[@mitchliam974]

I'm in love with your videos

[@BretMuckdogs]

Thanks Ryan!

[@culchiefilms1791]

I'd Strange can make people forget a party ar Kamar Taj, I assume he could of made people not forget about Mysterio, but forget about his death. I don't think he would of had to take someone's hair for that, especially not the Kamar Taj's hair 😅

[@SubliminalCrazy]

Great takes. Great content.

[@Partylifeblack]

These videos really give you life

[@Sdevistan]

May I just say how much I like your content Ryan

[@kylecarter1599]

90% of these questions were legit answered in lines of dialog in the movie. Did these people not watch the movie?

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Most people dont care about movies. They just want action lol.

[@BigWillProductions1]

... it's a movie... In theaters... That you pay money to see at a certain time... People don't have perfect recall of every line of dialogue spoken in ANY film, and most people only saw it once. I picked up on a ton of this stuff on my 2nd watch which is more than most viewers get before streaming.

[@shafiqlalji5351]

@@BigWillProductions1 okay but if you're going to watch no way home and still come back home with a theory that doc ock is probably a variant and not the same one from the raimi movies, despite all indications of him being exactly that...you probably didn't deserve to watch the movie at all at that point

[@Kyharra]

@@BigWillProductions1 eh I mean he could of just watched a cam video online if he cared enough

[@xeibei4804]

Ah yes just let me recall the whole movie with all its dialog from memory alone. With that kind of mind you would only have to watch a movie once.

[@slattsticks4459]

I love this channel so much

[@evilraskel5569]

Great answers

[@Bandanab310]

It takes place in November/December time for the most part. The movie starts in the summer, the trial is over the rest of the summer ending right before the beginning of senior year. Peter MJ and Ned go through their rejection letters from let’s say Sep-November. The Halloween decorations were still up possibly weeks after Halloween because the donut shop owner was complaining why they were still up. When dr strange pushes peter through the mirror dimension they go through a store that is playing Christmas music which in the US could be ranging from Nov-Dec. and finally the movie ends around actual Christmas time

[@Joesith_]

6:30 or strange only learned the spell after endgame

[@heresthedealio3520]

Couldn’t any of the Avengers just back up Peter and tell everybody he’s chill. Also couldn’t Peter just use Edith to produce an illusion of Quentin Beck saying he lied or something?

[@apoorvsingh4459]

This is the same reason why Strange was angry with him when Peter told that he didn't think of any other option before trying to erase the memories of so many people. Also, Peter would prefer his identity to be unknown again, because that's how every Spiderman is in every iteration

[@saturncrush]

You are right. This is fun 🤩

[@cornixcuror]

My biggest problem is that Peter and Stephen are two very smart people in the MCU. The whole movie could have been avoided by them talking for 15 minutes about if Peter wants everyone who he is not attached to forget and allow people like Aunt May, MJ, Ned, etc. to remember. Dr. Strange was a world class surgeon and the only one to find a path to defeating Thanos. While Peter is brilliant enough to be Spiderman and also be a highschool student who was potentially going to Harvard. It seems too convenient that they could not have spent the time to talk about how the scenario played out. I loved the movie but both of these characters have been through a lot. Dr. Strange returned after being snapped away knowing that his gambit payed off to beat Thanos and Peter also returned to a different world from the one he left. Also Dr Strange had experience with the Time Stone and knows that time is relative. AKA if he is going to cast a spell that changes a planet's perspective about Spiderman then it is worth a bit of conversation about how it will play out and to make sure that Peter gets what he asked for without breaking everything.

[@summertyme5748]

Thank you! Of course. More and more film goers are coming out and stating the obvious which the writers have tacitly admitted. This film has an *idiot plot.* That is a plot that relies on the characters behaving like idiots and resolves itself the moment they stop being stupid. With sitcoms this comes after exactly 1/2 hr, for some inexplicable reason. 😂

[@summertyme5748]

Here is what Dr. Strange would really have said, which is easy to know because he said it before, in the *well written* films in which his character was smart: No - can - do. *My job is protecting your reality douchebag.* - Strange.’ Maybe you should actually try: telling the truth and accepting the consequences of your choice to lie about your identity in the 1st place, instead of asking me to mind-rape the whole world. Also - if MIT doesn’t work - try community college or even - *get a job.* That’s my Dr. Strange. Not Amy Pascal’s Dr. Strange whose primary objective is help Sony milk it’s only cash cow SpiderMan - at all costs even to his own credibility.

[@letmeknowjoe]

But WAIT!: How do the two Venom post credit scenes (from NWH and V:LTBC) fit into the "no way home" timeline? Venom is being drawn into the MCU (by Dr. Stranges botched spell) and AFTER that he sees the JJJ breaking news about the Spider Man / PP reveal. BUT Strange only performes that spell AFTER JJJ revealed Peters identity. So when does the spell happen and when the reveal?! Did Venom even get there by Stranges spell at all?

[@scartrex]

"Hive Knowledge across Universes" Venom already knew that Peter Parker is Spiderman even though there is no Spider Man in his Universe (presumably)

[@blazercage]

Thanos has no hair to be able to cast a spell from.

[@tigerhawk1138]

To me people not remembering Peter is like the cops not recognizing Westview. People could be staring right at Peter's birth certificate & be like nope... dunno what you're talking about

[@MrPeter924]

Great video great movie supermen 👍

[@redpanda9367]

If fire is one of Venom’s greatest weaknesses, how did he crawl out of a smoldering meteorite when he landed on Earth?

[@briand5379]

Doug speaking Spanish and asking for treats is definitely worth a thumbs up.

[@giftfromgod8204]

I love this channel! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤙🏼😎🤓😇

[@josephsilvaggio7601]

The more Spider-Man No way home videos, the better 🕷 🥺💜

[@dthSinthoras]

Why have Ned and MJ stopped after collecting 2 Spidermen? If I remember correctly they even said after finding Andrew Garfield, that they will continue until they find their Peter.

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

It is because the Spider-Men told them where to find Peter and they either opened a portal off screen or went the long way there.

[@sidsullivan194]

Dr strange couldn’t get thanos to forget about the stones cus he needs one of his hairs. Last I checked he was bald. Or you could say he needs any piece of dna but hair is just easier to get but things like blood would still work. But still if was difficult for Tony to make thanos bleed so it would’ve been pretty difficult to get pretty much any dna from him

[@rjpittman4510]

You can be bald and still have hair... just sayin. Just hurts more when you remove the "non-head" hair if you catch my drift. I'd question how he would get access though 🤔

[@kidkatanatv]

Thanos has balls. Ball hair?

[@sidsullivan194]

@@kidkatanatv firstly please watch what you say and how you say it. Secondly how’s he supposed to get one?

[@kidkatanatv]

@@sidsullivan194 Magic or Scott Lang

[@sidsullivan194]

@@kidkatanatv that’s a very disturbing image I now have in my brain

[@jethrosketch]

It would make so much sense if EDITH still worked on Peter.. it would use a retinal scan to identify Peter Parker. and that would mean Peter could find a way to delete all traces of himself. So now the footage and pictures are erased AND people have no memory of them. So Peter keeps his identity but no one remembers who he is. And Peter just decides to never use EDITH again.

[@aquariusnleo]

If spider man takes place after the eternals, how come spiderman or hawk eye never mention the celestial sticking out the ground?

[@MOHAMED7astanak]

The PAPA JOHN analogy is SPOT on! LOL ... SEMANTICS babay! lol!

[@cryptonian101]

Celestial gravitation disruption 😆👌

[@theFLCLguy]

I don't think Dr strange is actually making people forget instead he's traveling to another universe. What was said during the spell was like a search engine. So each time he changed it he was searching through the multiverse and connecting to different universes. Like it's been said before you can't change history, in trying you create a branch in the timeline.

[@GokulRaamthelegend]

Oh yeah! That might explain the forgetting spell in a much better way. But my doubt is, if doc strange switches himself to a new timeline where everyone forgets Peter Parker, will the initial strange who caste that spell won't forget him (stuck in the same timeline)? How will that strange even know if that spell worked?

[@JChe-ft4zc]

In regards to making Thanos forget, the spell only makes him forget once. It doesn't make him unable to know about the stones, so any of his hench-children could've told him about the stones and he could pick up the hunt right away. Peter was going to do just this to Ned and MJ at the end of the movie, for example. Edit to Add: The Celestials are 4th+ dimensional beings and would have completely different physics that wouldn't interact with our 3rd dimensional world. I.e., you couldn't reasonably expect gravity to work the same if you were able to go down into the 2nd dimension.

[@emerje0]

I think I know what's going on between Vulture and Morbius. One of Morbius' powers is to feed off people to regenerate his body, and in the comics one of Vulture's powers is to drain people's life force to make himself temporarily younger. So what if Toomes somehow figures out what Morbius' experiment was, tweaks it to only drain people and then uses it on himself to drain people of their life force? Then we'd end up with a Vulture that can make himself young again as the perfect disguise for escaping his tech heists. Not only that, he may not remember who Spider-man is, but he's going to remember that he's a young man from his encounters, maybe befriend him and gain his trust as someone around his same age (possibly pretending to also be a young superhero) and then learn his identity all over again (or just backstab him, whatever).

[@eclipsehorse8693]

naw, Tombs is just interested in Morbius... because he's BATMAAAN! :)

[@user-ov5nv1ff1b]

With the forgetting spell the way you explained it reminded of something that happens in the anime/manga noragami, in the manga/show different gods roam around the earth but when most people meet one of them they quickly forget about them, if you guys are having a hard time understanding the spell maybe seeing it in noragami will help?

[@SolidSerpents]

Eternals takes place in a timeline that is cut off and totally forgotten. Sounds great. Thanks!

[@supp9345]

For dukas figuliras’ question, how would your answer support what happened to venom, because he was not close to the box at all

[@TheGrumpyGriffin]

Between you and that sucker Kevin Spoilers I can’t stop checking KZbin for new content about anything. So entertaining, I love it. Plus y’all have got me into movies and shows I probably wouldn’t have noticed before. Thanks

[@amcaesar]

Nice No-Prize tap dance, Ryan.

[@s_napps]

Doug saying “donde están las golosinas?” Chefs kiss

[@dreamrestore213]

Good to know Venom just leaks pieces of himself when he's drunk.... Must be all kinds of drunks walking around San Francisco transforming into symbiotes.

[@slayerscult5777]

Just 1 minute ago! So cool!

[@Crystalluxxx]

14:14 the appearance of Arishem on earth would produce a surge of cosmic energy surrounding Earth and could be the source of the comic accurate origins of the Fantastic Four

[@jesse.rodriguez]

I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere yet but when Peter is astral projected out of his body you can faintly see the comic booky spider sense squiggles around his head.

[@dr.bright5670]

Also I think Arishem's presence had little effect on Earth because I don't believe he has a gravitational pull, nor do the other Celestials. I think they're almost completely immune to the natural laws of the galaxy.

[@IAmMightyMike]

Okay doc ock knowing Kurt Connors is a good attention to detail. That actually had me thinking; but clearly Ock saw his face and just knew it wasnt the same guy.

[@RicardoPetinga]

Regarding the time of the year during which the movie takes place, I think this bit of information about the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree on wikipedia explains everything: "The tree is put in place in mid November and lit in a public ceremony on the Wednesday evening following Thanksgiving." The end of the movie probably takes place before Hawkeye.

[@NagiDev]

Question: If the villains had to be near the device to go back to their realities (hence, making Peter catch them all), how did Venom/Eddy Brock return to their reality?

[@kamatz83]

It was a different spell, the one kept in the box was destroyed by the Green Goblin. If they had used the box Venom might have not returned to his reality but since Strange casted a different spell it did the job.

[@imposter6952]

What if Peter's last wish to dr strange was to make everyone forget about spiderman instead of peter parker coz it would have made things easier. The clip and articles related to spiderman including the mysterio one would get wiped out of existence. The only thing is that everyone would forget about his contribution in saving the universe. That's it! Now whenever they see spiderman they would think of him as a new vigilante trying to fight crime. You can't say this one is similar to the first one bcoz in that spell everyone would remember both spiderman and peter, they would just forget the connection between them. I think this is perfect tell me your thoughts on it.

[@dr.strangewizard3069]

Variant concept from Loki solves so many plot holes lol

[@lesterwoodby4286]

@ryanarey please explain how Peter gets the villains out of the cells in the udercroft?

[@Bicketybam68]

The sewing conundrum... maybe he took an online course? Maybe he watched some youtube videos. We saw the final product but we didn't see all the 'attempts' that he made. Add to the fact he is still a genius he probably can take up things quite easily that many of us struggle a little bit with but eventually you get it.

[@wadewilson452]

Im proud of Dough too ❤️😇

[@Xlaeflicks]

7:10 does it mean that even if Mj used the box when Peter was gone, it wouldn’t have worked? Or that when Peter wants to use it on the roof it’s pointless?

[@diresa22]

Sound vibrations can become electrical energy through the principle of electromagnetic induction. Electromagnetic induction generates electrical current using a magnetic field. When a magnetic field and a conductor, such as a wire coil, move in relationship to one another, electromagnetic induction occurs. As long as the conductor is in a closed circuit, current flows wherever the conductor crosses the lines of the magnetic force. So there you go Electro heard the word "Peter" loud and clear because they were inside a big electromagnetic field.

[@golem8209]

Did strange want peter to take the box and web him or did he just put no effort to beating peter?

[@shockingshane9700]

I feel like the gravity problem is probably as simple as, he as a Celestial, can just make it not happen. Im sure he could give himself full anti grav or something. It is hinted that he wants life to thrive, so it would be weird if he didn't have something to counteract it. Also he knew exactly what happened and wants to judge earth to see if the sacrifice was worth it, and instantly destroying earth with his presence isn't being much of a judge lol.

[@SuddenJeff]

Remember everybody... when a character makes a bad decision, it's not a plot hole. Characters making be decisions is how plots are made.

[@ritsea.5562]

Dr. Strange already created a spell powerful enough to span infinite realities: the botched forgetting spell that was the plot of the movie

[@comedygeek]

The movie actually takes place in November - possibly late November. The Halloween decorations Peter sees have been up long past Halloween because MJ's boss says she's been putting off taking them down.

[@daltanda3908]

This phase of the MCU seems like it's producing cool one-off movies; but they don't seem cohesive (yet) like the first few phases of the MCU. I'm hoping they don't sloppily tie them together down the road and they actually build them together organically before the next major "Thanos-level" threat.

[@samc.7191]

6:58 if they all need to be near the box why would it work on venom in the end credits scene?

[@summertyme5748]

Venom who has no idea of who Peter Parker is, and is pulled in because….? Amy Pacal: *Just do it!*

[@lifestaxx1452]

7:09 if they all had to be near the box for it to work, then how come it still worked with Eddie and Venom in Mexico?

[@irakhan6019]

about everyone forgetting peter parker, lets not forget how everyone forgot westview existed or how the relatives of the missing person forgot that person existed after wanda cast the Hex. maybe strange's spell works similarly

[@spideyboigamingyt6571]

Bro exactly I just thought of that

[@si7dsc]

Agreed on Jared Harris… Oye Bossmang

[@ryusuken973]

@9:28 Hello Felicia....probably a red herring...but hey...if so, she was around already...

[@qdontae6]

That’s actually my fist time hearing bout that mystical spider sense n it sounds so stupid lol the spider reflexes make more sense cuz they are fast af