SDPC Hemi Camshaft Shootout!

We test out our new lineup of camshafts now available for your Gen 3 Hemi!
Want to jump ahead? Click the time stamps below:
1:33 - Bone Stock
3:32 - "Stage 1" Camshaft
6:57 - "El Chapo" Camshaft
9:04 - "Stage 2" Camshaft
12:25 - "Stage 3" Camshaft
Products featured in this video:
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SDRH213219 "Stage 1" Camshaft Kit: sdparts.com/i-...
SDRH218225 "Stage 2" Camshaft Kit: sdparts.com/i-...
SDRH223231 "Stage 3" Camshaft Kit: sdparts.com/i-...
"El Chapo" Camshaft Kit: sdparts.com/i-...
Manley Pushrods:
MAN25680: sdparts.com/i-...
MAN25722: sdparts.com/i-...
Phaser limiter kit: sdparts.com/i-...
Phaser lock kit: sdparts.com/i-...
Holley Dominator:
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Holley HEMI Harness: sdparts.com/i-...
Holley Sniper Intake: 837252
6.4L Intake: www.moparwareh...
Hellcat Throttle Body: www.moparwareh...

[@harrypersaud9422]

This is the greatest engine testing and dyno video on tube, no profanities no dip shit music or pictures of personal items . Thank you very much for putting out this video especially a video on hemi power.

[@nhra7110]

Great video! Thanks for giving some Mopar Hemi love 🙂

[@ZacLowing]

People will watch this and still pick the wrong parts...

[@3pedaljay231]

The lesson here folks is that the sniper intake is designed specifically for boost, which is why you can bolt a Hellcat TB to it. I'm fairly certain the 6.4 intake didn't have active runners working properly. I've seen north of 20 HP on the dyno between the 6.4 & 5.7 intake.

[@gordonpaden5951]

Runners were active. The gains are on trucks. The car intake does not pick up anything. We and many others on engine dynos have verified this across the country. HHP had a post about it as well.

[@RadDadisRad]

Serious gains on that stage 1 kit.

[@robertsrt]

Way back in 2008-2009 I had a srt 6.1 charger with a Ed Curtis cam almost identical to the stage 2 in this video. (218/224 @ 112). That car was basic bolt on, long tubes, cammed, 3200 stall and for a long time was the quickest “cam only” 6.1 in the country. It ran an 11.6 @ 117 with a 1.59 60ft. That little cam screamed. Id race guys with 440’s and they’d only pull on me at the very top.

[@bryanunion5110]

what other mods you have

[@moparaddict4409]

Glad to see y’all giving the hemi’s some love. I see y’all at Moparty each year.

[@disfordiesel8219]

Nice work, I like how low you start the pulls.

[@wkjeeping9053]

That stage 2 is the way to go. The best bang for your buck for the street. Even any type of forced induction the stage 2 would be perfect.

[@joelalleman9591]

thanks for all of the effort you put into this , I hope it pays off for you !!

[@johnnoehl8917]

I’d love to see the stage 3 with the holly hi ram mixed with the stock TB. I’m really on the fence about intakes but I really think the high ram will give better torque

[@gordonpaden5951]

I tried to get one for the video but they were unobtainable at the time. We will do it on the 6.4 when we do that one.

[@mvincken]

Haven’t heard the name Scoggin Dickey in 30 years and then BAM!!! Came across from feed….awesome

[@jtc1964x]

Interesting how the Stage 2 didn't start making more power until over 4,000 RPM. One of the advantages of going with a 6.4 over a cammed 5.7 is a LOT more power under 4k. Nice gains on the top end with all 3 cams. I would love to see this same experiment on the .46

[@Sdpartscenter]

@@jtc1964x you're in luck! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHqWaGhjgM1gr8ksi=cZL_FzTqGr4x1yFD

[@chrishansen3812]

Excellent display of how duration and lobe angle effect power. Too often ppl get caught up in lift numbers.

[@Sdpartscenter]

And we'll have a video coming out soon on why these don't need ginormous amounts of lift with a stock head.

[@blueduster74]

@@Sdpartscenterand piston to valve clearance is an issue on stock piston.

[@TheMudbogginboggers]

I have a 2015 5.7 4x4 truck with long tube headers and full exhaust and tune but im looking to wake it up with a cam swap. Definitely enjoyed lots of good info to think about

[@deandrehagar16]

Just ordered a stage 3 kit. Can’t wait☺️ Also got a 2600 torque converter, hellcat oil pump.. looking for a decent pair of headers…

[@maya00795]

Too good...... Sounds Op 👍 great job

[@jhimmelberger5371]

Great video Dane. I really enjoyed the cam comparisons, and was surprised by the increase.

[@hellfire1614]

Stage 2 really looks like the way to go

[@ronbo422]

Gentlemen, thank you for this video and information. I was NOT expecting the results with the 6.4L intake manifold!! That really surprised me, to say the least, as everything the interwebs has to say is that it will improve bottom-end torque, as well as upper-RPM HP numbers. Not so, says the all-important dyno. However, I would've like for you to have posted the graph with the 6.4 intake, to see if there was any pickup (better street characteristics) along the way to 6500RPM. Because I have a '14 Challenger, with the 5.7, I will likely go with the Stage 2 package. I still I drive my car almost every day and it seems to be the most manageable with great gains over the stock bumpstick. My Tremec does not care about the stall speed, as that's dictated by my feet action. 😆 Again, thank you for this info. Keep the videos coming with the Gen 3 Hemi's. It would be cool if you guys could collaborate with Frankenstein Performance, southeast of you in Weatherford, to have some mild porting done to those crate heads. Then, re-run the tests with the three cams. 😎 -- Ronbo --

[@joshkrause2977]

That 6.4 intake has active runners controlled by the factory ecu, they are not using a factory ecu so no active runners.

[@gordonpaden5951]

@@joshkrause2977 The active runners were controlled manually.

[@captainboose8788]

Very cool stuff, strange about the 6.4 intake, I would have expected it to pick up with the variable runners

[@robcolletti]

I thought the same, but wonder if more tuning would have a positive impact

[@rammzilla3340]

Interesting Swapping out cams without removing the heads👍

[@gordonpaden5951]

We just posted another tech video on how to do this!

[@AlexD-fq5zm]

Crazy how I paid a guy to dyno tune my 5.7 eagle with long tubes and Tsp stage 2 cam non vvt non mds and upgraded valve springs on fresh heads and only put 369/370 to the ground through the 5 speed. Thinking how glad a tuner he is ... this makes me sad to know I have uncammed my car because it couldn't pass emissions because of a bad tuner

[@blownaway4371]

THAT SOUNDS AWESOME!! Is it open headers? Thought about the usual "LS" 5.3 in my Lexus IS300. But now that I see the Mopar is a front sump.. Hhhmmmm!!! (The stock pig 2jzge is a front sump!)

[@BIGRED_98]

Wanna see it done with a ported 6.4 truck intake & 87mm TB. Would be a nice little combo.

[@ragingbull3406]

I wonder how the stage 2 & 3 cams would work with a 4" crank and "maybe" the 6.4 intake.

[@devillockj]

So basically stage 3 is all the sauce. I want that in my 5.7 rcsb ram.

[@SilverTheHeghog6]

Cannot wait until my stage 2 get here in the mail. Will have videos along the way since i can't find any on here

[@tonysouza9546]

Would have liked to see you use the 6.1 intake

[@jasonmccallister484]

Great video and lots of good useful info. I see it's a crate motor, but is it a 2003-2008 or 2009+ block and heads? In other words, Eagle engine.

[@1stedfast]

the cams look like 2009 up

[@alexjuarez1247]

Very informative information will for sure copy the most stage 3 set up and out in my truck 🫶🫡

[@JohnGarcia-dx4gg]

What you got for a 5.7 from a 2005 Model, i saw your cams where done on a 2009 or newer Hemi. Info would be nice i want to rebuild mine and want some Cam added to it. So far all your info is very on point & the performance sheets.

[@whiteknucklert2315]

How did you activate the short runner on the 6.4 manifold? I was a little confused did you just run it once on the short runner once on the long or did you activate the runner during the pull?

[@Sdpartscenter]

We did once on the long runner and once on the short runner. We weren't able to sweep it during the pull (we could have, but we didn't have the SRV harness). The gains between the two still weren't anything worth writing home about.

[@spikekavalench]

Great video! Very helpful!

[@David-qf9gp]

This is a fantastic video!!! Thank You So Much! David

[@benweeks8295]

Very interesting!

[@JohnMartin-eb7jn]

I have to assume that your test engine was a eagle head design. Nice video. I need to do a cam change in my 5.7. Which one would work well with a 125 shot of nitrous?

[@everestinspections9088]

Great video

[@clintonsmith9931]

This company has been racing cars back to the mid 50s if I remember right. Maybe not the same people but I’m sure they have a good rep or they wouldn’t still be doing business. Of course pick your posin and live or die by it.

[@Srt_problemchild]

Should have used the 6.1 intake

[@deandrehagar16]

Lifters as well..engine got a full rebuild

[@trentonrobinson2745]

Awsome video thank you

[@kevinb158]

If i could afford it It definitely time My truck is a pre eagle 345 5.7 at 276k valvecover are starting to leak am sure the headgasket and lifters cam are ready to be replaced a long with the timing set and waterpump Thermostat. Shoot id even replace the oil pump to i like my truck even though she flaking in spots and the seat are need replaced

[@clintonsmith9931]

Might try a cam from Powell Machine back east somewhere on utube. He grinds them from cores etc. at least talk to him. He seems to have reasonable prices. And knowledge. Just remember everyone is human and only Jesus was perfect. As far as I know he didn’t grind cams. But he did save lost souls and still in business.

[@travishatcher1333]

Great info. Thanks for sharing

[@richardgarris9305]

Should've tried the 6.1l intake. You more than likely wouldve gained more with the stage 3 camshaft.

[@aidenhall9832]

so im a little late to the party here and admittedly only about halfway through the video. but what do you think the additional power gains would be with a ported intake and ported heads? because i plan on the 392 intake, ported heads, headers and a cam on my 17 Charger RT

[@gordonpaden5951]

Ported heads and intake would definitely make a substantial difference. We had limited time on the dyno as it is used every day for customer engine builds.

[@natehate5547]

be very curious how the truck 5.7 and truck 6.4 intakes affect the numbers. the truck 5.7 makes 10hp over the car in stock trim

[@yedi015]

I’m looking to cam my 23 durango 5.7. It’s my daily but want as much reliable power I can get. Which cam would be your recommendation for this platform

[@jeffhow5499]

Love the El Chapo cam, would it be acceptable to use with a supercharger?

[@gordonpaden5951]

Stage 2 is a better supercharger cam and still has a great idle sound

[@jamesrobbins9683]

This will really cause debate with the manifolds

[@Sdpartscenter]

Oh, it definitely did 😅

[@kennethcoble269]

yea the everybody wants a 6.4 intake as an upgrade might go away

[@gordonpaden5951]

The debate is still ongoing. I'm about to give up on it. People only want us to validate their decision to put a 6.4 manifold on. Water brake engine dynos don't lie. If it ain't pumping more water, it ain't making more power.

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

Great video. I wonder how the Holley single plane intake with carb would rank on this list.

[@araxavionfinnie552]

Could you do stage 3 with a ported and polished 6.1L srt8 intake manifold?

[@dougkreutz7701]

Great video. Would have liked to see the 5.7 with the 6.1 srt intake with the 2nd and 3rd stage cams

[@dougkreutz7701]

Seriously thinking of getting the stage 3 cam kit for my 2.8 liter kenne bell blown 6.1 in my 2010 6 speed srt8 challenger

[@captainboose8788]

​@@dougkreutz7701VVT cams will NOT fit a 6.1

[@1sweet_ta]

5.7 has been done to death. Want to see some 6.4 action💯 what headers are you running?

[@Sdpartscenter]

5.7 is a larger market ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We would have loved to have more time to do a 6.4, maybe later. The headers are Kooks, but they are dyno headers.

[@LEGOCAMARO]

Have me a rumble bee and think it needs that rumble from El Chapo cam

[@alvinrichardson8123]

I’m saving money for a down payment on a used 2013 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed manual with 110,722 miles on the odometer, I’m hoping to add power up to 440 horsepower as this car will be my daily driver.

[@1stedfast]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Did you test a tighter LSA on stage 3 like the stage1 el Chapo from 112 to 108 LSA

[@ragingbull3406]

Wonder what the Edelbrock intake would have done.

[@NeoIsrafil]

Man, this makes me really sad. My engine dynoed at 280 hp, brand new from ATK with the comp cams h268 cam and valve springs and such, all the goodies they put in. I feel like my tuner may have lied and didnt actually do any tuning on the dyno and just ran it once on a canned tune to get rid of me...but i dunno what to do about it. Worst feeling ever. To make it even worse... shes got a higher stall TC, headers, intake, fresh rebuilt trans, exhaust (headers-back).

[@ronbo422]

I would definitely find a competent tuner, put it on a dyno and get the power out of that combo. There may be something missing, like injectors, etc. You are probably right, though. Some "tooners" use a canned tune and just push you out of the door with no CEL's. They think your butt dyno will keep them out of hot water, and in good graces, with you. I'm assuming those are WHP numbers. It WILL cost you more money, though, sadly. If you don't mind, share the tooners name.

[@Terruhcutta]

You need a tune for sure, however you will see a wheel number with parasitic loss at the belt end too. This engine is crank HP with limited accessories. That being said 280hp doesn't sound right.

[@ronbo422]

@@Terruhcutta True that! They DO list crank HP, don't they? Then add the accessory drive loss, plus the drivetrain loss, and that equates to wheel HP. Was it Holdener that dyno'ed an engine with just an electric water pump, then again with full accessories?

[@Goatman42069]

Hey what's a guy gotta do to get that tune for that stock run?

[@wilsolo1986]

Thumbs up. Do you have any recommended installers in the Midwest?

[@simonerubino52]

So I missed it. Did you disable this synchropher? Curious to see how the polls would react with the synchro phaser engaged

[@MALR7]

What is the maximum timing you reached at wot

[@joeytrujillo1601]

Planning on getting the stage 2 cam next week for my ram 1500 it’s my daily would I be ok with the 8speed converter not looking on going to the drag strip just want more power but as a daily truck

[@davidphillips3953]

Have you done any comparisons with your cams VS just using a 6.4 BGE or SRT8 cam?

[@edgewood971]

Great video. I'm installing a new remanufactured 5.7 in my 2012 ram 1500 4x4. I liked your stage 1 or el chappo cam. And your stage 2 cam. I'm looking for great hp all around and torque. What cam do you have that will give me what I'm looking for. If I can make that 460,475 hp ,that's what I'm looking for . Please let me know what you recommend.

[@Phoenix-oc2zf]

Do you guys have the wheel horsepower numbers for the stage 3 cam

[@StevenMann-lc5ic]

Would like to see what the Edelbrock Victor efi manifold could do.

[@mcm95403]

Not run well on a 5.7 is what it would do. You really need to stroke up to 426 cubes to use it well.

[@lanceshore]

Was the active intake runner system enabled during the pulls on the 5.7 intake? If so, that would explain why the sniper lost so much torque over the stock manifold. I was also curious on your timing cover and belt set up. Where did you source the timing cover, idler pully, and how long is the belt?

[@nicholasrouley675]

So you're saying I can buy your stage 2 cam, put it in my stock 5.7 hemi, and get a little under 500hp? Please give me a yes or no on that.

[@M4A3]

Look up Engine Masters. They took an Eagle 5.7 from a Ram. Put a compcam in it and used long tube headers, with stock truck active intake, and the Holley Terminator system firing it. It made 500 hp. The 2009+ 5.7 heads flow 330 cfm on the intake side. To put that in perspective, thats the same flow as the 1970 LS6 454 heads.

[@nicholasrouley675]

@M4A3 I think I actually saw that already. I like freiburger, but I don't have the skill he does lol. I just want to buy a part have it installed and achieve the result I saw in the video. I love my '13 5.7 hemi chrysler 300. However I'm a regular guy with regular money lol. Don't want to buy something, have the motor torn apart to install and then it dont work.

[@M4A3]

@nicholasrouley675 trust me I understand! I was always a fox body Mustang guy. Got this 2014 Charger Pursuit and fell in love with the Gen3 Hemi. You can add a 6.4 intake and wire the active runners up using a MSD window switch, and those add 25-30 hp to the 5.7.

[@nicholasrouley675]

@M4A3 again...lots to learn over here. I'm gonna buy a daily and start working on this 300. My own version of a hellcat swap.

[@nicholasrouley675]

@@M4A3 so...real talk. Should I buy this ? Thoughts.....?

[@blownaway4371]

Great results! But, what manual transmissions are there that can handle the torque?? It will be a "swap" into a nonstick platform.

[@kryptidstudios6746]

Tremec tr6060 will handle a ton and they came behind these engines and the 6.4 and hellcat engines factory in rt and srt vehicles. That’s probably the best option

[@gordonpaden5951]

Yeah. What he said 👆

[@brokelahomachickenfry6497]

For the Stage 2, would you need a higher stall converter. I have a 5.7 auto 8speed

[@ulyseknight7674]

I have a Ram 1500 5.7 250,000 miles doesn't burn any oil runs really great but I have a knock I want to put a cam and lifters in it I was thinking about the stage 2 do I have to change the springs and the push rods

[@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast]

Yes order the kit and you'll be in good shape

[@tonyserrato1757]

Which springs did you guys run ? Comp cams beehive enough ?

[@tacobell9271]

Is the Gen 3 Hemi 5.7l Stage 1 cam kit (SDRH213219-KIT) compatible with a 6.4L stroker kit (392)? Are the kits in stock in store for pickup?

[@brokelahomachickenfry6497]

Did you have the active runners installed with the 6.4 intake manifold and msd window switch?

[@scottspencer6554]

There is no way there should have been a loss with the 6.4 intake I grantee the runners weren't activated.

[@brokelahomachickenfry6497]

The 6.4 intake on my other Challenger was a great addition. I had already installed the stage 2 hrt comp cam. I had lost some power down low. But the 6.4 intake manifold brought back that low end and I felt a great pull throughout my rpms.

[@bdogjr7779]

EL*CHAPO《☆》👍🏾😁🤳

[@jasonholloway2577]

2019 Charger 6.4L. Have you done a comparison for the 6.4? Looking to get into the 500+ hp range, daily driver, with a nice sound. Tired of boosted 4 4 bangers and GT's hurting my family boats feelings... No mods done to the engine yet.

[@vortech3453]

Check out the Cam Motion Titan 1 camshaft

[@whoami350]

​@@vortech3453I agree with this notion commotion titan 1 with ported intake manifold 👍

[@hemiboy9860]

@@whoami350No need to go so extreme im sure long tubes,CAI,Bigger throttle body, and tune should do the job

[@gordonpaden5951]

6.4 stuff is in the works right now.

[@user-rk1bf4eh2p]

This is hydraulic lifters I take it ?

[@Sdpartscenter]

@@user-rk1bf4eh2p correct.

[@jd440]

Something isnt right with that 392 intake run. ive seen tests done where this intake helps across the whole rpm range. especially from just off idle to mid rpms. then starts to level off and give you the same kind of gains as a 6.1 intake.

[@Sdpartscenter]

Maybe it was a 5.7 truck intake vs 382.

[@jd440]

@@Sdpartscenter the 5.7 eagle truck intake actually flows better than the pre eagle (car) intake. I know the eagle car I take is a little better as well compared to the pre eagle (2005-2008). Not sure on the comparison between the eagle intake and the 392 though.

[@blueduster74]

Try the truck intake.

[@joshkrause2977]

Doubt they can control the active runners. Those intakes are crap when those don’t work.

[@gordonpaden5951]

The truck 5.7 intake is pretty well known to not flow due to the throttle body angle. Any intake manifold is better than that one just about.

[@gordonpaden5951]

@@joshkrause2977 The runners were controlled manually. All positions tried. Past 4000 rpm the difference was negligible.

[@user-nd9vh5sh5v]

I was wondering if you have suggestions for me I have a 2013 ram 5.7 I'm putting the chopstick cam in it is there anything I should maybe do and i did already get a 3000 stall

[@brokelahomachickenfry6497]

What brand, length, and width of push rods did you use for the El Chopo and the Stage 2? Bought this cam for my 22 5.7 challenger. Need correct length of push rods.

[@brokelahomachickenfry6497]

Do these all use the same size push rods for all cam stages?

[@gordonpaden5951]

Yes all our cams are ground on OEM base circle and will need 6.8/8.1 pushrods.

[@brokelahomachickenfry6497]

@@gordonpaden5951 3/8 or 5/16?

[@how_long]

​ @Sdpartscenter On the pull with the 6.4 intake, did yall have the active runners enabled?

[@joshkrause2977]

No way they had that active.

[@gordonpaden5951]

The runners were tried in both positions. The switch point is 4000 RPM. There was a difference in the dyno numbers below that 4000 RPM mark, however, neither position had a real gain over the stock intake manifold.

[@copisetic1104]

I tow, I’d like to see a max 5500 rpm torque tune with cams intake and headers that maximize torque, I haven’t run and up to 6000 rpm in 40 years. High rpm Hp means nothing in the real world of trucks! Unless you’re a boy racer.

[@gordonpaden5951]

Truck profiles are coming!

[@zablsnipez9050]

Is a tune required for every cam upgrade. Or could you run a cam still get said gains without a tune?

[@Sdpartscenter]

@@zablsnipez9050a tune is absolutely going to be necessary.

[@JRaww559]

Was wondering, if I dropped in a stage 2 or stage 3 camshaft in my 5.7, what else would I need to mod to accommodate for the power? New to mopars sorry lol

[@j.dmalone6544]

Really considering a stage 2 kit for my 2010 Ram 5.7L. What should I look out for?

[@joellasierra]

Did you guys put in a window switch to take advantage of the intake runners on the 6.4 intake manifold?

[@cordellspeer9151]

That’s a 5.7 intake manifold

[@joellasierra]

@@cordellspeer9151@ minute 13:20 there is a 6.4 intake mani on the engine

[@mikegreer9041]

Did you use the same tune for all cams? Wouldn't the ideal tune be different?

[@Sdpartscenter]

Timing was the same, AFR was commanded the same. So if a cam moved more or less air the afr automatically adjusts. This really allows for back to back comparisons on just the cam without skewing it by tuning.

[@ghostrt1608]

​@Sdpartscenter .. would have like to see the 6.4 intake tested with all the cams .. especially that Stage 2 cam... maybe do another video testing that intake with the Stage 1, El Chapo and the Stage 2

[@zeppelinbrown8347]

I've watched this video several times and I was wondering what year model that 57 is? PS I have a 2010 Challenger RT where's the 6-speed, that being said I'm seriously considering one of your cam kits.

[@Sdpartscenter]

This is for the later VVT and MDS equipped 5.7. If you're looking for that, feel free to give us a call, there are options out there but we don't have a specific cam grind for your setup.

[@joshuaburton4809]

I have a 2015 charger r/t 5.7 road and track with mds and idk where to start j want a cam its completely stock i want more power but reliability what can i do

[@miami305ization]

Got a 2020 Durango RT nothing Done To It thinking of Going Stage 3 cam kit for the first mod what type of gain you think I can get

[@cordellspeer9151]

Do the mds plug and cam bolts and stuff come in these kits or you have to buy it all separately

[@dallasrob284]

can anyone let me know what kind of valve spring tool that is

[@gordonpaden5951]

mancini racing is where I got it from

[@jakey20022]

Eagle head engine ??

[@blownaway4371]

What year spread are these? Kinda new to the Hemis. But i got an '01 Dakota base, reg cab short bed manual transmission! 9.25/3.55's should be fun!

[@Sdpartscenter]

2009+ Hemis.

[@ShawnGilbert1967]

I don't like that you didn't run the holleu intake till it nosed over, looked like it was headed to 7000rpm which would have netted more HP gain and generally faster ET.... But the REAL question is does any of this kit, fix the lifter failure issues?

[@98dodge360v8]

Typically no, you need a high volume oil pump for that. Deleting the mds helps a little.

[@gordonpaden5951]

Taking a stock bottom end Hemi past 6500 RPM is just asking for a rapid unscheduled disassembly. Grab another gear and use the Hemi's unique torque curve.