SE7EN 1995 HDR ANALYSIS 4K Blu Ray vs 1080p BD SDR 100nits

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Lossless SDR Comparisons: slow.pics/c/MdRShD82 Lossless HDR Comparisons: slow.pics/c/kTC32jMw BDinfo: Disc Size: 95,454,933,202 bytes Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-H HEVC Video 70353 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio English 4073 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4073 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround Dolby Digital Audio French 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB Dolby Digital Audio German 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround Dolby Digital Audio Czech 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround * Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround * Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 192 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB * Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 192 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB * Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 192 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- * Presentation Graphics Japanese 21.052 kbps Presentation Graphics English 36.498 kbps Presentation Graphics French 25.181 kbps Presentation Graphics German 36.299 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 29.449 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 31.250 kbps Presentation Graphics Chinese 29.326 kbps Presentation Graphics Korean 23.336 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 31.209 kbps Presentation Graphics Czech 27.978 kbps Presentation Graphics Danish 30.471 kbps Presentation Graphics Finnish 28.907 kbps Presentation Graphics Norwegian 30.110 kbps Presentation Graphics Swedish 29.293 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 37.018 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 39.703 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 40.082 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 24.989 kbps Presentation Graphics French 0.544 kbps Presentation Graphics French 0.406 kbps Presentation Graphics German 0.508 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.225 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.277 kbps Presentation Graphics Czech 0.397 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 0.355 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 0.970 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 5.683 kbps * Presentation Graphics Japanese 5.039 kbps

[@azwilko1997]

perfect comparison just what i was looking for. got the 4K steelbook on preorder 👍🏼

[@Chrisratata]

Thanks so much for doing these! Everything looks great with this disc, but that difference at 1:08 kinda concerns me - feels much brighter than the mood of that scene has always conveyed for me..but might be just fine on my LG hopefully

[@RESET_-bg7kw]

haha, I know... I double-checked my VC-1 and UHD BD and it is indeed the actual difference.

[@BeberDag130482]

No, no, it's always been like that ever since 1995. It's the Blu-ray that was way too dark and wrong in so many ways.

[@Chrisratata]

@@BeberDag130482 i get that the bluray was too dark but that HDR still looks bright to the point of changing the entire mood of the scene pretty drastically

[@BeberDag130482]

@@Chrisratata You're just seeing the mood back to what it always was. It's the Blu-ray that changed it, not the other way around. You've just been accustomed to a lie. Not that the scene on the UHD is totally right either. Well that shot is pretty much it, but just before, we're missing the golden hue when Mills is sitting in the back of the police car, and Somerset talking with the captain. Having seen a print 6 times in a recent past (even taking 1100 pictures of it to document the look of the print) and having a 35mm print scan, I can very much tell you it was never that late at night originally in that scene as you've been accustomed to with that failure of a Blu-ray released by Warner in the 2010s.

[@freddflock434]

David Fincher himself was responsible for the HDR accurate mastering so I believe that this scene is exactly how the director intended.

[@ps5andstuffhere]

Got the none Steelbook version. Strange packaging. The 4K disc seemed stuck lol. Not watched yet

[@bened22]

Great comparisons! Instead of the split screen like it is now I would prefer the same motive on the left and the right (maybe just the middle of the frame). Even greater or maybe as an extra comparison would be an extreme zoom of the same motive in motion. That way we could actually see if the resolution is higher or if the changes are color/contrast only.

[@RESET_-bg7kw]

I don't know but thanks for the suggestion. I like the split screen motion comparison. As for the zooming, I suggest you use the slowpics.com comparisons. You can zoom as much as you want and they are truly lossless 16bit RGB (30mb + per picture)

[@baxterwilson368]

2:35 As soon as this was announced for 4K, my first thought was: “The flashlights are gonna look sick in HDR.” And I was right. 😂

[@RESET_-bg7kw]

yeah, it's not overly bright, just right. I also like how the shadows are darker.

[@nguyenuckien2767]

Can i inject the dv metadata in the the bluray remux or would it result in wrong brightness level?

[@RESET_-bg7kw]

Yes you can, they look like the same brightness. I did that and watched it.

[@jmssun]

So no Dolby Vision?

[@c-samleystudios1573]

This film has always been a mess in terms of rereleases. There is a very detailed article about all the different versions and the color differences between them. The new one seems substantially brighter but it looks like it is actually closer to the original look.

[@BeberDag130482]

Absolutely. It seems they went back to something closer to the digital color grading they made for the Newline Platinum DVD in the early 2000s that was at the time an attempt at recreating digitally the original CCE bleach by-pass look of Darius Khondji's cinematography. The Blu-ray equivalent of that was the Dutch Blu-ray, not the complete failure Warner released on Blu-ray in the 2010s.

[@66UNDERGROUND]

Why new 4K transfer are always more greenish ?????? 😢

[@bully33]

Because old transfer were too blueish

[@williamw]

Old releases were optimized for CRTs and how that technology skewed colors

[@peterm.4355]

​@@williamw You think the 2010 Blu-ray was optimised for CRTs? Are you out of your mind?

[@jasonx350z4]

Haw is the AI upscaled for the film is good or bad

[@RESET_-bg7kw]

It's fine... I watched it last night and noticed a couple of very sharp/clean shot but overall, it looks ok.

[@panicoestatico9260]

@@RESET_-bg7kw Kinda bad Fincher used AI in this classic.

[@russye2215]

idiot he use ai to fix some clothing in 1 shot not the entire movie like james cameron

[@nguyenuckien2767]

@@panicoestatico9260 The guy just used it to extend a guy's coat with alot of manual compositing and fixing to make it look right. This is not the 4k upscale shit like Cameron is doing.

[@panicoestatico9260]

@@nguyenuckien2767 Thank God about that.

[@Ammarx1]

1080p sdr looks better tbh. thank u for ur work as usual

[@GenX_in_the_wild]

The Blu-ray i can get for 2 Euros..