Sean Plunket Hits Back At Stuff Claims Pākehā Treat History Like Garbage

[@PaddyMcCarthy-x5q]

we all know why stuff has turned off comments

[@bilgerat711]

Yes, if you can't be challenged you are in the right, akin to knocking over the chess-board,

[@bilbobaggans8398]

For sure, whoever controls the media controls the people

[@Jay-oh1li]

And if they are on, only half the comments get through

[@stevehughes1510]

@@Jay-oh1li Same with youtube sometimes, a lot.

[@IanG2120]

Probably because unthinking morons egged on by the moron-in-chief react to one person's rather silly opinion piece as if it a death threat rather than just waffle!

[@andreatodd3095]

Good on you Sean, yeah I used to listen to "that" sort of guilt spin, now I don't it belongs in the delete bin.....

[@seanodwyer4322]

ahh was watching Breakfast on channel 1 t.v. today , and about 40 % WAS mAORI THIS mAORI THAT. hAD A LADY BY NAME OFF Harris on for 20 minutes and she never let upp on it. are humans in new zealand been brainwashed too think everyone is now full Blood maori's.''

[@heathermaich8966]

Thank you Sean Plunkett. The voice of reason.

[@andrewm8610]

Getting heartilly sick of all the Maori exceptionalism. Its mostly modern 'made up' bs. Cant even be bothered with all blacks haka....totally over it.

[@mikeholling8830]

Yeah time to move on, it’s 2024 and ancient war dances trying to scare the enemy are best left in the past.

[@schlookie]

Mediocrity is a more apt description for them

[@djk200808]

Yep...push back well under way. Just never hear it reported in the mainstream as its deemed insensitive.

[@the_oneandonlycrazyjess1396]

Cry me a river whaaaaaaaaa

[@steffanhibbard2493]

Well said.

[@OJB42]

Yeah, that's just worthless nonsense. Stuff can get stuffed!

[@IanG2120]

True, so don't let Sean let you get yourself worked up.

[@OJB42]

@@IanG2120 I can get worked up on this BS, with or without Sean! :)

[@IanG2120]

@OJB42 Yeah, but would you really if he didn't make such a dramatic editorial decision on the article in question. Have you read it? It's just an insignificant article until Plunkett makes a big deal about it.

[@OJB42]

@@IanG2120 Yes, I see your point. It's like the Streisand Effect: complaining about it just draws more attention to it.

[@IanG2120]

@OJB42 I hadn't heard of the Streisand effect, but yeah, that is a pretty good summation. We need to relax the small stuff really.

[@DHarr-m6g]

Stuffs opinion pieces are garbage click bait

[@Pedromanus56]

Joel Maxwell.....now, that's a fine Maori name. And, he calls himself indigenous to NZ. What a wally

[@misterpeakman4243]

alot of old maori names were changed to english cos you pricks are useless at pronounciation .

[@Cyril_Squirrel]

Agreed, those among us who are 1/16th Maori should have only 1/16th of say on Treaty matters.

[@Duckz558]

whakapapa says it all is what history about really is why pakeha don’t take a shine to their own history because of the grift and that’s all we’ve been seeing

[@lynnebarnes3840]

​@@Duckz558What an awful piece of written English, word salad, bereft of meaning. 🤦

[@Duckz558]

@@lynnebarnes3840 😂😂call it what you want truth been coming to light💡 slowly but surely all the deceiving manipulation of the past how the laws have been changed to suit one’s narrative

[@mikee4639]

In fact that person is lucky to be 53, because it is unlikely he would have reached that age, without western medicine and our ancestors coming here. So be grateful. IMO

[@saregama-r8td]

Really? That’s the best you can come up with? That’s the superior nonsense you all live and die by because in reality you don’t know your ancestors. You don’t really know if your ancestors created anything, and it’s funny how you put the entire white race into the category of inventions and technology when you categorically don’t know the origins of anything. Including your own.

[@IanG2120]

Neither would you have without the progress of modern medicine. You've not really thought it through, have you?

[@yingle6027]

Next thing you know this Maxwell guy will be writing NZ's version of Mein Kampf. He gets so close to the line every time and Stuff continues to pay him 🤷‍♂

[@DontEatTheAnimals]

Hang on, all these Maoris' have European blood. Some of them choose to ignore a whole lot of their ancestors for the sake of appearing 'indigenous'. They're not, they are ALL, every one of them, each of these 'Maori' people, also European, as European as all us 'white' people. There are no full blood Maoris any more, they have all interbred with the 'white' folk, lol. Do I need to write FFS ?

[@antihebrew]

@@DontEatTheAnimals yeah. They don't like the White majority. Cry about it, or fight back!

[@scorpnz4433]

What ethnic group do you feel like you belong to. Now you know why maori say they're maori. If you'd like a better understanding of what makes an ethnic group the lotus eaters video " you can't erase the english " will give the answer. I couldn't find the specific time stamp that explains it. However what you've said is pretty much what is being attempted on us english in that there are no english due to numerous invasions over the centuries. It's all mired in intersectional shite. By the way there's no such thing as european blood it's all the same apart from blood type

[@SJDRacingNZ]

I don't belong to an ethnic group.

[@olliemoose2020]

Its all by design for the money sake, if there was no money in it for these part Māori they would all fade away.

[@IanG2120]

The lineage of people does include European peoples, whatever they may be, but have you ever considered the fact that the reason they want to "appear indigenous" as you put it is because they do present different. Have a think about it . I am Pakeha can trace my lineage back to English, Scots, and Irish roots, and all of them are caucasian I could swap all of them and be any.I could walk in all of those worlds. If some people have too much melanin in their skin, then that's what marks them so why wouldn't they be more inclined to celebrate their cultural distinction in a positive way? After all, despite having nearly as much English, Irish, Scots, Welsh, or whatever, they can't as easily move between those like I or others like me can. Yet some point them out and say you're not Maori, but you can't be one of "us." They can either celebrate or be beaten down by it and become bitter and angry.

[@gayejenkins7913]

I totally agree with you Sean. What craziness that someone gets away with such discrimination.

[@maorifilm]

Discrimination is a fact in our history.. Native schools act, Parihaka...

[@elizabethgibson6741]

I've bin there

[@chriskiwi2601]

When someone like Stuff tell us they give genuine reliable news, that tells me the public are waking up at long last and look elsewhere for reliable news. As for Joel Maxwell, with the Maori name😂, he's a lost cause. Maori are not indigenous Joel, so get used to it along with people who wised up to it.

[@mikeholling8830]

What Joel and a huge number of other people don’t seem to understand is that if NZ didn’t have immigration from Europe (and other countries) they would not exist. Surely that’s not hard to understand.🤔

[@schlookie]

Wee Joel is whiter than snow himself

[@gregg7617]

Stuff can get Stuffed !!🤨😡

[@sampreece]

My Māori side cares less about our history than my pakeha side. I know plenty of other Māori who’ve had the same experience. But either way, it shouldn’t be about maori or pakeha; it’s just a divisive tactic.

[@SimoneMcAllister-l3h]

Your so full of shit. Pakeha do deny history, whether you like it or not spuddy. Dickheads

[@misterpeakman4243]

😂 whatever bei

[@chrisblockley5783]

Yep. none of it necessary. Let's all just move on.

[@moronicdooshbaggery756]

As a Maori,I treat Stuff as garbage

[@saregama-r8td]

@@chrisblockley5783what’s not necessary? A people’s entire culture, language and history? Dream on. Just because you don’t know or care where you came from and it has no meaning for you.

[@JamesSmith-qw2vs]

Well said Sean. In fact, it needs to be said.

[@dougfraser77]

A very very odd article. If the Maori were so great at environmental stewardship and conservation, don't ask what happened to the Moa. If they're so strong on family, don't ask which race leads the way in abysmal family violence stats. If they bring up carbon emissions, don't mention the enormous fires started by Maori to clear huge swathes of forest, fires so big that ash remnants can be detected today in Antarctica... jeez.

[@njd2342]

Don't they call it AteAllTheMoa?

[@sclark9011]

@@njd2342 and "whakahuia"

[@pamelaabsolum2202]

Ate the Moa eggs so no more Moas!

[@andycy2226]

Joel Maxwell has been writing racist diatribes for years, nothing new here.

[@MrAntz71]

Agree! He's a racist who writes dribble...

[@njd2342]

Joel lost the Waka Post at least 6 years in subscriptions from me when he wrote about his Maori Immersion Conversion and how bad me and my kind are.

[@schlookie]

​@@njd2342and wee Joel is whiter than snow himself

[@olliemoose2020]

Yes he is a shocker all right.😮

[@Tutu-Blah-Blah]

@@njd2342 You're so sensitive!

[@sunstar1630]

Stuff and Maori feed off each other.

[@adrianvanniekerken-lp5oj]

STUFF can get stuffed Managed by weirdo’s

[@beneagleson3026]

I returned to NZ after 8yrs abroad and I’m shocked at the poor level of journalism at the herald and stuff. The left bias is very noticeable coming back after so many years

[@sd3457]

I'm English and my interest in my Anglo-Saxon heritage means I would probably be labelled "far right" by this Maxwell bloke.

[@michaeltoohey1385]

In my lived experience, an attempt to explain English origins in Europe resulted in "you must be one of these National Front neo Nazis", it happened.

[@Mostlypeaceful896]

Marxists love their contradictions

[@brushandshovel6512]

Anglo-saxon history is incredible. Be proud.

[@the_oneandonlycrazyjess1396]

Sound like punks never heard of Em before but maori u know about them​@@brushandshovel6512

[@valeriehughes1008]

The bulk of us just want good journalism... reporting the facts and we do not want opinions. Report the facts if you want to survive Stuff - otherwise go the same direction as all other trash rags have gone... down the tubes!

[@jasperhorace7147]

And it’s not just opinions, it’s the constant telling us what and how to think.

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@jasperhorace7147 Very true!

[@lyndapointon7227]

And you think sean plunkett does that????

[@helenlizzystewart4908]

it reads like a lot of rubbish left on the side of the road in big black rubbish bags along with couches and nappies

[@billhanna5455]

I find it weird that Cannibalism & Slavery is never brought up on Maori history OR Why the many small tribes wanted protection from this ? Hence the Treaty ?

[@Mostlypeaceful896]

They allied themselves with the most powerful global empire for absolutely no reason what so ever.

[@misterpeakman4243]

it is…….. you just dont know how to speak maori 😂. european cannobals were still practising well into the 1900’s 😂

[@Winstonsmithsalias]

Where!

[@saregama-r8td]

Actually Maori don’t hide any of the history including the reprehensible. It’s in the whaikorero, it’s on the paepae. You were told one story and have stuck with that trying to get a one up. Tell me, why did your ancestors leave their shores? I think it will be quite easy to prove how filthy, unclean, unsafe your ancestors shores were. So tell me again how did English/Irish/Scottish Come to NZ shores in small numbers and not get eaten, not get enslaved again? Tell me who was Maori trading with and travelling with before colonisation. I’ll wait.

[@LaurineCurrin]

Nor is child abuse or murder.

[@jonnkarlsson2362]

Before European settlement for a variety of reasons not many Maori lived past 40years..one reason was blood poisoning from tooth decay.

[@IanG2120]

Think it through such deaths occurred in 19th century westerners, too. God's sake, have a think about it before writing such bs

[@annetteblack9573]

Thats false assumption by historian as there was nothing to rot their teeth. Maybe lack of carbs by wearing their teeth out chewing on braken roots which the sand was hard to get out. They lived way over 60 unless war was involved.

[@MNZGA57]

Stuff are stuffed. Go woke Go broke!

[@jasperhorace7147]

We all know they were Ardern’s protected mouthpiece. Notice that as soon as the government changed the foolish ‘be kind’ mantra was forgotten. Stuff has done nothing but undermine this coalition ever since.

[@HunkyMan777]

Not worth giving these types of people any energy or airtime Sean.

[@rod-contracts1616]

Stuff is stuffed.

[@geofflewis8599]

Average Maori life expectancy pre 1840, was around 35 years. Now 74 years. 700 years ago this land was an avian wonderland untouched by human hands. Within 300 years of the arrival of Joel's ancestors, all the major bird life had been destroyed.

[@MaoriWithAttitude]

So what major bird life was killed off? The moa was a prehistoric bird on the brink of extinction, it's like saying Maori killed off the Dodo bird, wooly mammoths and the sabre tooth tiger

[@schlookie]

​@@MaoriWithAttitude42 species of native bird, from the moa, to tiny Robbins were killed off by maori.

[@nzmarco]

@@schlookie And how many more were killed off when the English introduced a number of invasive species in order to avoid homesickness?

[@schlookie]

@@nzmarco a few more yes. My point is, maori are no better guardians of the land than anyone else.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@geofflewis8599 well, yes, the Moa....

[@Badgerman913]

It’s true, Māori care more about their dead than us whities, they’ll go to great the lengths to commemorate them, like spend many days away from work, even if they barely knew the person. Us whities on the other hand care way more about our living and subsequently we live longer and we don’t succumb to easily avoidable medical complaints at the same level, like smoking and alcohol and drug and food related ailments, despite all Māori having European or non Māori heritage. Perhaps if Māori cared more about themselves they’d be healthier and happier and New Zealand tax payers wouldn’t have to spend so much on their wellbeing. It would appear the Māori belief system isn’t working so well.

[@CitizenofAucklandSilentAudits]

Haha excellent comment

[@olliemoose2020]

Yes well said, it’s laughable how they want to blame everyone for there own short sightedness and there poor lack of judgment.

[@seanodwyer4322]

the demons keep asking me for - papers/ fags/ drugs/ sex/ other- Not many vegans

[@SneedTechIndustries-gf5hn]

Stuff treats Journalism like garbage.

[@JohnDyson-iy8sw]

Not indigenous.Maori came to New Zealand on Waka (canoe)

[@rossco584]

Indigenous BS🤣they turned up by luck like everyone else in boats, Morrison even went to find out where from... Cook Islands... big con!

[@misterpeakman4243]

you dont just appear out of thin air dopey. were here for centuries before stale pales turned up.

[@IanG2120]

Not by luck they were skilled navigators.

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@IanG2120 Proof?

[@IanG2120]

@jasperhorace7147 Well, they ventured out across the Pacific and brought kumara back to introduce it as a diet staple. Cook also took Tupaia on board in Tahiti and used his knowledge to guide him around the Pacific.

[@Youknowwhatyouknowbro]

​@@IanG2120tupaia was just a translator to communicate with other brown people even then he could hardly talk to them.but them seeing another brown person with white men made it easier to make contact

[@desrender4893]

Whenever I hear an extreme Maori sprouting of their history as a people, I like to debate with them about their opinions and have always found the saying, AN EMPTY VESSEL MAKES THE MOST NOISE to be correct.

[@bobboardman1156]

We need media principles that work is this country not endless one sided opinion that amounts to propaganda. No wonder democracy is struggling. .

[@BB-lj1xv]

Maybe Joel is feeling his age due to the weight of the huge chip hes carrying around on his shoulder.

[@reiolite2354]

Getn emotional there. 3:09 im out. Yeah stuff picks & chooses what it wants us to comment on. For example. It turns the comments off when seymores got stuff to say.

[@NZNorm]

Part Maori... Joel Maxwell is hardly a traditional Maori name. Winston Peters highlighted that 96 % of people that claim to be Maori have less than 50% Maori blood. Maori are an integrated race and I think that it is time to put and end to the race baiting

[@olliemoose2020]

Yes it’s funny how Part Māori with only about one sixteen Māori all of a sudden start claiming that they are half cast in the hope that the helicopter might drop some cash there way.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@NZNorm that much??

[@mcgruff3309]

In the 80s the lefty Maori's were saying the treaty was a con! 🤣 That's real history!

[@richsmith3300]

I think you got kaka on your lip

[@mcgruff3309]

@@richsmith3300 What a comeback! 🤣

[@martinharris5017]

Stuff are a bunch of cowards.

[@schlookie]

Stuff is the main spreader of hate speech and misinformation here in New Zealand.

[@pamelaabsolum2202]

Maori were known as Polynesians as they arrived in NZ from various parts of the Pacific. It would be interesting to know, which I guess we never will, how many waka never made it to NZ.

[@SandyFontwit]

I've spent 17 years on my 4 small yachts cruising all over the Pacific. I started before SatNav and GPS so I do know about traditional pre-electronic European navigation. Some Maori were good navigators given that they stayed in the tropics and temperate zones. None of them were as good as Cook. Undoubtedly many Maori canoes were lost at sea during explorations and voyaging. I've got to laugh/cry about the fake "Maori" (with chin tats) woman NZ academic who got a NZ$300,000 grant for her ludicrous "proof" that Maori discovered Antarctica, based on a Cook Islands myth about "white foam" on the ocean. Then she asserts that Maori should have a major say in what goes on in the Antarctic because one Maori seaman was on board a European ship that went there in the 1800's! This year I was at Anchorage at Able Tasman Park on my yacht. 3 double hulled re-created Polynesian canoes pulled in (under outboard power) to get ready for a big cultural event at Mapua. They had sailed down from the N. Island. They ALL had European style Marconi rigs and sails, Not the traditional Polynesian ones. But, before they sailed off for the Big event, they ALL modified their rigs to look like traditional ones.

[@grandadneal8114]

The problem with Maori is they constantly look backwards not forwards. Look at people from Cambodia,Vietnam and other places they have had horrific things happen to them and they don't forget but they are not hamstrung by the past....

[@vumba1331]

The same can be said for olde England, the Romans weren't exactly kind when they came in and took over for a few hundred years, neither were the Vikings with their constant raiding of coastal villages. But the English learned from them and grew strong to become a united country that could defend themselves against these and other aggressors. Surely that is what New Zealand should be doing in a united way for the benefit of all? Maori evidently want to walk backwards into the future looking at their past, righting all the perceived wrongs done to them to 'guide' them forward, evidently there is even a word for this.

[@grandadneal8114]

@@vumba1331 yes the word is welfare I believe

[@SandyFontwit]

@@grandadneal8114 And those immigrants don't kill their children like the Maori. Then Maori blame their horrific murders of toddlers on "colonial trauma". Total b.s.

[@antihebrew]

"Pakeha" is used as a racial epithet. I'm White!

[@carlmark1013]

Ssssh pakeha

[@schlookie]

​@@carlmark1013grow up

[@antihebrew]

@@carlmark1013 OK, Ni....

[@helenlizzystewart4908]

@@carlmark1013 go away racist troll

[@rockyjones2563]

@@carlmark1013sssshhh pakeha/Maori

[@geoffstokes]

That opening statement of Joel's could just read fruit cake

[@nedKelly-x3z]

Stuff is STUFFED,

[@tonyl256]

Yep read this story too, and many of his other articles and he is a divisive horrible person

[@JW-xg9my]

I think that Maori actually want racism. The rhetoric gives them a platform, much of which is not backed up by meaningful evidence. It is surprising that, if indeed there is a majority of Maori that don't support the activist conversations that are currently being pushed, why they are not acting to reign it in. I am very aware of my heritage and culture, I work for what I have. I have stolen nothing and I try to make sound life choices that will not cause me harm. To be told otherwise is simply offensive.

[@martinharris5017]

NZ doesn't have any indigenous people. We are all recent arrivals here.

[@geoffstokes]

A lot of their health issues are self-inflicted like all of us can

[@margaretvanson3601]

Maori life expectancy circa pre-treaty was 33 years. Maori life-expectancy has since doubled. European life expectancy pre treaty was as described in the Bible ie three score years and ten ie 70 yrs. European life expectancy has not doubled in the same time frame, it has increased by about 5 years.

[@Winstonsmithsalias]

Maori activists still haven’t got the Monty Python joke.... apart from that!! what did the Romans ever do for us?...Aquaducts!!

[@chrisblockley5783]

KFC and P? A guaranteed diet for a long life.

[@tazman8697]

Even less if you're their kid....

[@Penguinracer]

I'm a Kiwi who has been abroad for almost 30 years, but takes a keen interest in my homeland and obviously wishes the best for it. Those of you living there..would you say that woke-ism and the Ardern administration have now been widely discredited as divisive, economically deluded and a road to nowhere?

[@CalTheKiwi1]

Sure would. Worst Nz govt ever - and I’m old enough to remember Muldoon’s administration, which was the 2nd worst.

[@olliemoose2020]

@@CalTheKiwi1Come on old Rob was a saint compared to Horse face.

[@Penguinracer]

@@CalTheKiwi1 That's comforting to know. When I was a kid talk of exporting & foreign exchange receipts was everywhere. The population was only 3.3m then (I was born in '68) & NZ was very pragmatic about earning its way in the world. I feel that the woke left believe that commerce, finances and business is intellectually below them, hence their disdain for those of us not on the Govt payroll who are concerned about earning a crust, paying the bills and building a business.

[@35southkiwi16]

Totally agree. You didn't miss much not living under the Ardern administration.

[@cyberfish6849]

Well said Sean 👍

[@pamelaabsolum2202]

Polynesians, including Samoans, Tongans, Niueans, Cook Islands Māori, Tahitian Mā'ohi, Hawaiian Māoli, Marquesans, and New Zealand Māori, are a subset of the Austronesian peoples. They share the same origins as the indigenous peoples of Taiwan, Maritime Southeast Asia, Micronesia, and Madagascar.

[@NevilleFuckenBloodyBartos]

Say what you're saying is.... The asian blood should even-out the life expectancy?

[@jonathanbuck6526]

Getting sick and tired with divisive opinion pieces that do nothing to mend the fractured society I find myself living in.

[@LaurineCurrin]

Notice which leaning it all comes from too:- leftists woke social justice gender racist oriented hands out whingers

[@wendyross3314]

Ive heard this before about death and it pisses me off NOBODY gets to say whose grief is deeper after a loves ones passing Grief isnt cultural Saying this is so offensive to anyone who has lost somebody they loved Funerals arent organised to create competition between cultures to see who does it better !!!!!

[@maxballantine6006]

Bloody hell. I wouldn't even want my fish and chips wrapped in that dribble.

[@FrozenShade]

My inner clairvoyance is telling me this will soon be a top comment!

[@cyhermann7147]

Stuff is rubbish for the woke people

[@damolux3388]

Pretty glad I left NZ and have never returned. The place appears to be a divided nation. Where one race is being elevated and given preferential treatment over others. Isn't this what the Nazis were up to?

[@Chopper650]

as someone of maori heritage... stuff can eff off... woke mind rot

[@poncholarpez6233]

Can we please end the structural racism against "pakeha" from the misrepresentation of the treaty.

[@NevilleFuckenBloodyBartos]

The best part is not one person from the human rights commission gives a fxck. In fact, every single one of them would think you were racist if you ever made a complaint.

[@Tutu-Blah-Blah]

Who runs the structure? The majority population. Not Māori

[@overland_adventure_nz]

Where do I find these crazy people to write articles on stuff? How about remembering the early Settler history in New Zealand instead instead of forgetting all about how New Zealand is developed in the late 1800s and early 1900s By my indigenous ancestors that first arrived here by boat also.

[@petertrott5107]

It really is ashame the brown privileged people in the Treaty Tribunal and iwi have gone down this rabbit hole. All I can see are Lawyers and the High Court for them in the future. They are too tribal and want to battle all the time it will work against them. Their money will be wasted in a time of recession and all the rest of NZ will have to bail them out.

[@joebloggs5333]

I don't know if pakeha treat our history like garbage. But some most definitely chose to ignore it.

[@njd2342]

Return the sausages...

[@berniefynn6623]

Maori history is oral, they change it to suit the issue, rabgiaowha, a maori fires a gun out from inside a hut and the muzzle flash caused the hut to catch fire and this is a British atrocity and a church burned down.Land taken due to rebellion against the crown, no wars and the only reason/

[@valeriehughes1008]

No apologies for the 100+ odd early settlers who lost their lives at the hands of Maori in the days of our early settlement... no apologies for the likes of TeKooti who had his warriors attack a tiny settlement near Napier and wiped out the entire settlement... mostly European and part European. Maori were responsible for many shockingly vicious attacks on our early settlers... but we never hear about them nor we we get apologies for them.

[@maorifilm]

Natives Schools act 1885, Parihaka 1881... We prove that this was indeed facts.. We used oral because before Pākēha arrival we didnt need to write things to remember them..

[@berniefynn6623]

@@valeriehughes1008 where would I find this?

[@berniefynn6623]

@@maorifilm You use facts? How many maori have claimed to have been beaten at school for speaking maori.Lies.kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZy6qq2dnahogtk

[@user-ii1iy8fz1d]

​@@maorifilmso caucasians arrive and suddenly Maori can't remember things? Not very rational logic there.... ❤

[@brutallyremastered4255]

"I know what you're thinking" Thus summing up the entirety of MSM editorial ethos and practice. Managing opinion? That's what the MSM and their benefactors blame outlets (banned in the West) like RT.

[@rosssouthwell8678]

I thought stuff was gone because their stuff is crap

[@61zoom61]

Stuff, you mean Comrade News.

[@IM-lr6vz]

Propoganda

[@sjxt1556]

Mass reporting to the race relations commission on that article please. It’s outright racism and shouldn’t be allowed in publication.

[@LaurineCurrin]

Gee if someone did that, poor old Joel would have a heart attack and not get to tell us he's 54 next year lol

[@ngaftp]

Good on you Sean. This type of BS is the most psychopathic crap out there at the moment.

[@KevinCoupland]

Great Sean, I'm sick to death where one people think they have all the " Rights" to spirituality

[@ContentGrazingCows-ns4zr]

Indigenous means, native OR belonging to a place. Therefore Sean, if you were born in NZ and you "FEEL" that you belong here, then you are indeed indigenous.

[@Tutu-Blah-Blah]

There is also the definition of 'being there before colonists arrived'.

[@ContentGrazingCows-ns4zr]

@@Tutu-Blah-Blah The definition I put forward comes from my Oxford dictionary. Can you please let me know where you came across your definition. Thanks.

[@Tutu-Blah-Blah]

@@ContentGrazingCows-ns4zr The first peoples to the whole southern hemisphere

[@ContentGrazingCows-ns4zr]

@@Tutu-Blah-Blah So as far as NZ goes, you must be referring to the Moriori then.

[@Tutu-Blah-Blah]

That's not a gotcha. What happened to them on the Chathams was terrible. Why wouldn't they use that?

[@iainseymour-hart3347]

Well said, Sean. We must never forget our past, where we can find solutions to the challenges that confront us today. We must preserve and protect our culture so it can be passed on to our children and fiuture generations. We humans and our fellow species of life, are indigenes creations of planet Erath. That's all!

[@mxvega1097]

"...pray for change to structural racism" - yes, because after making up a mystical non-existent foe, we should adopt a posture of great religiosity to combat it. That's definitely the future for public policy in this country.

[@tokoloshi214]

Some stuff in Stuff will remain stuff... not facts nor journalism.

[@h3arold]

I used to read Joel Maxwell's columns. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped. He is getting worse

[@chrisblockley5783]

A deep and abiding respect for the abused children that have to be re homed?

[@Dave183]

Former British MP Tony Blair reckons that populists exploit a grievance, but they do not resolve it. That is the condition of the world, and our nation, as we speak.

[@granthunter8450]

Can't stand his writing. Read a couple of his ramblings and could stand no more.

[@gregg7617]

😂🤣😂 excellent Sean !😉👍😎🎱😛😛😛

[@rayh.7757]

I'm not a bloody pakeha. I'm a New Zealander of British origins.

[@billhyndman-l7q]

People like Joel Maxwell give Maori a bad name.

[@schlookie]

Wee Joel isn't even maori. He's whiter than snow.

[@MaoriWithAttitude]

The first Pakeha theory was that Maori arrived 2000 years ago based on carbon dating of a kiore rat, then they found another and dated it at 800 years, then calculated that each Maori generation lived on average of 35 years, hence we have the 800 years arrival. With this in mind, who brought over the 2000 year rat? Or is this his-story in the making again?

[@jasperhorace7147]

When you are so undeveloped that you don’t even have a written language, you can make up any rubbish to fit your narrative today. Very convenient, isn’t it?

[@pjm9574]

Maori have attitude just not the right attitude

[@tpaine1815]

Sean - Absolutely right!!!

[@CoolCoyote]

no they haven't. stuff is as bad as the herald. btw rugby has gone full metal woke and it might go broke. our womens and mens rugby has gone down hill. just glad woker perenara is retiring soon.

[@andrewm8610]

@CoolCoyote yes agree about Perenara .

[@KiwiCat198]

Take stuffs Joel Maxwell. Writes a thousand hyperbolic words on reclaiming the haka world record but has written nothing on why so many Maori children, babies and infants are being brutalised and killed at home. No justice yet for ruthless empire, Joel. You don’t care do you? A war dance celebrating a famous Maori coward more Important. As for his growing old piece, reasonably good journos never have ‘I’ in the opening sentence. Nothing but an ‘I’ specialist.

[@rjh6037]

They just never stop talking about themselves in glowing terms, totally conceited.

[@pamelaabsolum2202]

Maxwell isn’t a Maori name neither is Joel. He forgot to write about pre European times and how tribes fought each other, ate each other, female babies often killed at birth, slavery, elderly quietly died. Joel needs to take a DNA and be honest about his true ancestry. Diabetes has been around for thousands of years, If the Spanish had arrived in NZ before the British, there would have been no Maori left. As for growing old, we all do from the day we are born, so Joel, get used to the reality of aging and be positive. Instead of whinging and writing clap trap do something useful in the community.

[@seanodwyer4322]

jew names

[@christopherclayton8577]

Freelancers? Selected how, exactly. They'll all be on the port side of the waka.

[@sportysbusiness]

Oh my goodness, how much racism is it possible to put in one article?! Stuff continues to try and divide us, through everything from race to jab status...

[@logicalanswer3529]

Stuff have a certain narrative to push, and it does not involve honesty or integrity towards non Māori.

[@sgibson5797]

Never ceases to amaze me the publication of their affiliation to a tribe which arrived in New Zealand by canoe? What about his affiliation to non tribal ancestry indicated by his name? Indigenous only according to the woke UN.

[@Mark-ef8mp]

When you think about it. It doesn't matter what Joel thinks. It's simply that Joel works for a has-been media formate and desires relivence.

[@mikechristiansen6978]

Stuff also does tv news,woke b----s 6:29

[@ruslingmcgehan7137]

Explain why the kids killed by parents and care givers.

[@murraymckenzie1923]

This guy needs to talk to a few Genealogists ...

[@michaeld.1128]

Lazy journalism loves the woke.

[@paulmeersa7162]

Publisher should be charged with sedition.