Rebel Moon - Part Two: The Scargiver | Movie Review

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

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[@65Drums]

My question is, why are we supposed to wait for the directors cut EVERY single time? You don’t see other directors tripping over themselves during interviews, promising how awesome the directors cut will be if we wait. Can we really blame Warner Bros or Netflix for every time? Whatever his next film will be, I’m sure it’ll release to iffy reviews, and then he’ll explain to us how it wasn’t his true vision. Again. And that we need to wait for the R-rated Directors cut. Again. Loved the video by the way. It gave a lot of context to the situation.

[@carlrafa9699]

If I keep hearing about "you should wait to see my directors cut it'll change your life" then I'm going to tap out.

[@KrustydaClown]

Because he is not Spielberg or Nolan? Not everyone has the same pull in the industry. Sucker Punch got reworked by the studio in the editing process. It happens but he accepted it and he tried to salvage the situation as much as he could with the extended cut on BluRay. WB cut out 30 minutes of BvS. WB then told us Justice League was unwatchable and Joss Whedon saved it. It took a fan campaign to see for everyone that is not the case. If Netflix is like; “Hey cool idea, but we’re not willing to spent thát much money on projects that are Rated R, can you make em PG13 for us to market?” then would you refuse? He has always been open about how Sucker Punch didn’t come together as he wished and he had nothing to do with WB’s fuck ups with BvS and JL, so why act like “this always happens with Snyder” when we know the studio behind them purposefully messed with his vision. We all know how trash most studio’s are. Especially circa 2024 when people who only care about money and not about artistic vision are running their businesses. So why place the blame on an artist whom we know has been fucked over multiple times? I hate that I didn’t get to see the Ultimate Cut of BvS in theaters or the directors cut of Rebel Moon right away. But I’m not going to act like he purposefully put out an “inferior cut” just so he had something to fix afterwards.

[@thabreez456]

I mean Nolan and Spielberg are directors who have trust of the studio behind them. They let Nolan release a R Rated Biopic about the guy who made the atomic bomb starring half of the A Listers in Hollywood. Not many directors can get away with that.

[@Highostrich]

​@@KrustydaClown Was just waiting for the list of excuses

[@KrustydaClown]

@@Highostrich was just waiting for the snarky comment not willing to engage, just to trash.

[@heymistercarter.]

I think a big problem with Snyder is that, instead of letting certain projects go when it’s clear things aren’t working, he doubles down on them until he thinks the audience will get his vision for it. With Sucker Punch, a major passion project, it bombed at the box office and with critics, yet he’s still saying he can find a way to make a director’s cut that will make the movie work. And with these two movies, LucasFilm straight-up told him this idea wouldn’t work, but he doubled down and pushed it to NetFlix because of how passionate he was for it. And now that these movies are tanking critically, he’s going on a “wait for the longer, R-Rated director’s cut” screed, since THAT’LL clearly work, right? Honestly, I think he got lucky with the whole “Snyder Cut of Justice League” thing. With projects like Sucker Punch and this, though, he needs to know when to let it go.

[@ndo533]

That's literally not what happened with Lucasfilm😂😂 and he didn't write JL, that's y it was good

[@travisgames2]

Sucker Punch sucks donkey dick. However, Sucker Punch is Snyder's best movie. Imo. It perfectly captures what goes on in his head when he's directing.

[@Over-EssayFilms]

I saw Dune 2 before seeing this. Calling it whiplash would be the understatement of the century.

[@maxwellleung6068]

well said!

[@NightwingTV]

One of these things is not like the other

[@thabreez456]

I don’t think it’s fair to compare these two considering how different they are besides sharing a genre.

[@NinthShinigami]

@@thabreez456 the joke here is that. They’re so vastly different and especially in quality even when in the same genre.

[@Over-EssayFilms]

@@thabreez456 well they are pretty similar, the difference is the actual quality itself. Dune is smart and thought provoking, whereas rebel moon has great visuals as well, but no actual substance.

[@ewok_soup]

It amazes me how in four hours both movies fail to make you care about any of the characters. People die and the music makes you know you should be sad, but you never really knew these people. Their motives are all the same, "the empire came and killed all my people" and that's it. No one has a scene where you think "please, don't let this character die". The closest thing is the scene where they give them their flags (or whatever they are) and you see them doing something other than fighting or preparing to fight, but even in that scene the girl gives us a quick description of each character instead of the movie showing us they're like that. We don't even see them bonding. That scene shows us that they kinda bonded inbetween movies.

[@carterjordan5067]

I’m a Snyder fan, but it’s becoming harder and harder to defend him. It’s not like Justice League where the movie was taken away from him. He went in knowing he would complete a pg-13 Rebel Moon and accepted that. So, it seems hypocritical to then complain about that. Make the best movie with the limitations you have

[@elin111]

Having style doesn't mean much if the style is bad.

[@camelliaharpdarkthrope6462]

I'll be honest, if this is what we got in the pg13 film, then an R rating isn't going to save it. The problems Rebel Moon movies have are things that can be fixed and shown in a pg-13 rated movie... Like what is the story suddenly better because there's an on screen bloodbath now?? That won't make me feel any closer to the characters.

[@dw.dunphy]

Okay, but let's be clear about this. Netflix knows what Snyder's vision is and always has. They never had an issue with his "living dead in Vegas" movie, which was R and fairly extreme. I'm sure they knew he wanted something just as hyperactive for Rebel Moon. That has to mean this is basically a "work" to generate the fan loyalty that coalesced around #SnyderCut. But where that was based on conditions being imposed upon him, this is he and Netflix colluding to create false victimhood and get the same result. They have chosen to release two movies they know are a mess to promote a "Director's Cut" from the sidelines, and that is incredibly disrespectful of the audience. The faint whiff of horse manure is strong on this one.

[@travisgames2]

Exactly

[@MichaelTomsyck]

As someone who really likes to loves over half of Zack Snyder’s filmography, I can’t say I’m looking forward to the future of his career, especially with Netflix. I absolutely love Zack Snyder’s Justice League. Not to spoil my Snyder ranking, but that movie will be extremely high on that list as one of his strongest pieces of his filmography. However, I think that movie was the worst thing to happen to his career, and Rebel Moon itself and its release strategy is the reason why I think that. Reading and watching a lot of Snyder interviews over the last month for my Snyder deep dive, it’s pretty clear that Netflix and Snyder collaboratively made the decision to this ridiculous release strategy. The Part One and Twos we currently have are about four hours long, and apparently the Director’s Cuts of Rebel Moon are going to be over six hours when combined. But with the versions of Rebel Moon released so far, both parts are somehow underdeveloped and bloated at the same time. The characters, story, and themes are paper thin, but the world building is so needlessly complex that it makes any sense. It’s like Snyder focused on the sides of a meal instead of devoting the majority of his energy on the main course and then figuring out the extras he can add to it to make the meal even better. I think a lot of this boils down the fact that Zack Snyder isn’t a good writer, especially because he brings in people he’s comfortable with to write with him. Because of this, he doesn’t have anyone to actually challenge what he thinks is best for his stories. From his mind to the script to the filming to the editing, there are virtually no question marks or roadblocks to challenge what he wants. That’s a good bit of what I think happened with Sucker Punch, Army of the Dead, and both parts of Rebel Moon. I think Snyder has more respect from some people because he’s an ambiguous filmmaker. But, that’s not what’s happened, which I think is unfortunate.

[@ndo533]

Agreed. His biggest issue is writing. He needs a great screenwriter. He should not be writing these movies

[@handleitallmedia]

The main antagonist, "Space Hitler" refers to the protagonist as "Scar Giver" before it's revealed that she actually left a scar on his chest. That's just one of the examples of some of the bad writing in this movie. 🤦‍♂

[@0verWay]

Imagine what actually good writers, directors and filmmakers could have done with the money wasted on this movie

[@ericericson5633]

The Whedon cut of Justice League is the closest Zack Snyder has ever got to making something worthwhile.

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

Utterly ridiculous

[@tmac731]

You mean his original vision of Justice league that Warner’s brothers messed up

[@ericericson5633]

@@SeanChandlerTalksAbout Snyder's filmography is ridiculous I agree.

[@VideoRandomChannel]

Out of your mind The graphics were ps1 ish

[@ericericson5633]

@@VideoRandomChannel The "graphics" were equally bad in both versions.

[@Hugh_Jannis]

I just don't understand how Zack Snyder keeps getting work. Wait, you say his wife is a high ranking Hollywood executive? Ain't nepotism a bitch...

[@NinthShinigami]

Saw it yesterday morning, and it was a pretty bad start to my day. I just can’t seem to click with Snyder, and this just keeps feeling like ripoff Star Wars to me instead of Snyder actually trying to do a sci-fi epic his own way. It doesn’t come off as a tribute or anything, more like “let me copy your homework bro.” Literally, not one character is interesting here and the world feels so bland to me. Definitely going on the lower end of my 2024 list. Thankfully, the bad taste didn’t linger long either as I saw a movie right after that’s on the much higher end of my list so far.

[@tmac731]

So this was Synder vision of a rated R Star Wars so dinged it’s from from Disney and an actual Star Wars project, of course it doesn’t feel original because it’s not suppose to be. He made slight changes so Disney can’t sue him lol

[@TJ_TDOG]

@@tmac731just because it was supposed to be a real Star Wars movie doesn’t mean it can’t be criticised for it feeling like a knock off of star wars

[@Korra228]

What did you see afterwards

[@travisgames2]

Gotta love Snyder fans. "Wait for the Snyder Cut, it'll be 10x better 🤗." Why? Why does the audience have to wait for Snyder's "Director's Cut" to see his actual vision? Why couldn't he just make a movie and call it a day, no matter the rating? Why do we need rape, nudity, balls deep sex scenes, and gore the likes of which Tarrentino cry himself to sleep? He just did the same thing everyone else does, just worse. He's just an edgey teenage punk rock emo man-child. Rebel Moon is just a canabalized version of the better versions he was trying to "saterize". Instead of making one movie, he's starting to do these interviews saying he has 2 versions of a movie, since the JL stuff. No amount of extra content can save this floundering franchise. The worse part, they're boring; once you start thinking about the plot holes, it makes it even worse.

[@talapantedtoad6461]

I’m not sure how in 4 1/2 hours of screen time they’ve managed to not make a single character more interesting than a piece of cardboard. I legit cared more about the stupid characters in Pooh blood and honey than I did any of these characters and that film was made with practically no talent💀

[@blakebunyard6716]

The title should be Rebel Grain! The grain giver! Omg. GRAIN!

[@delugesofgrandeur]

And spread every letter out with 60 spaces in between each one to incorporate the slow motion.

[@peterphan227]

It's sad to see people like you making so many excuses for Snyder. This isn't "stripped away" Snyder. This is "full-blown bloated too-much" Snyder.

[@adarshmishra9685]

He is no longer a divisive director. Not even his die hard fans are defending him anymore.

[@a7000zo]

He can only be called that when he actually strives to make a good movie and they happen to elicit a wide variety of responses. People don't defend these Rebel Moon movies because they feel like no one involved with them even cared to try. Netflix only financed them to add to their content rotation, and Snyder only agreed to make them as a means to get the films he *actually* cared to make. This is disrespectful to audiences' time, and thus no one would be faulted should they choose to skip the director cuts as a result, regardless of their quality.

[@Humdrumv]

I read a review where I was told to ignore the star wars fan boys and that this movie is really good however this "die hard" fan gave it a 6/10 which made me chuckle

[@Erasureeraser]

Part One was horrendously terrible, imagine my shock how terrible Part Two will be. Turns out that giving Zack Snyder a full creative freedom doesn't mean he's going to automatically make a good movie either 🤷

[@805ryu4]

If you think about it, a 4 hour justice league movie will really affect the box office growth of Justice League. I watched with some of my friends who were DC friends - yet some of them slept halfway because of how long it is

[@vjbd2757]

"Wanna know how I got these scars? Nope. Me neither."

[@christopherdavis678]

I got them from watching Rubble Moon 2 The Scargiver ...scarring my eyes for life 🙄

[@jacobfleming3926]

Definitely not watching this movie but I’ll watch a review

[@tarikh20]

This is the greatest Zack Snyder movie I have ever seen. Nah, just kidding lol. This movie is bad bad and bad.

[@jaybird3371]

I’m shocked Zack’s even being upfront about Netflix’s interference. No way he’s going to call them out upfront for messing shit up, they’re financing him.

[@travisgames2]

Bro.. Don't believe the hype. They were in on it together. He's been crying victim since before the movie even dropped. They're only doing it just to create hype. A false victimhood, if you will.

[@Korra228]

Dude he's literally doing it with every single movie. This is nothing but a cheap marketing gimmick. He's throwing Netflix under the bus despite the fact that he's the director, writer and cinematographer. He's the sole reason why these movies are garbage.

[@alanmiller7875]

"so much of that comes down to the fact that he" didn't adapt it from someone else's work. He's bad. Even when he adapts other's works he does great with the visuals and fails to capture the essence of the work. He shouldn't be a director, he should be a cinematographer or an art director... he should craft the visuals for a more competent film maker.

[@alanmiller7875]

also... the paper thin characters that spout bad dialogue won't be better if they have more sex. Don't trust Snyder when he says his real take is better. The solution to bad writing isn't more writing. And though seeing naked people can be a nice distraction from bad writing, it doesn't actually do anything to improve a film.

[@Xanegoh]

Netflix didn't "force" Snyder to make a pg13 version of these movies. All involved parties are just trying to capitalize on the whole director's cut hype to drum up business.

[@MM-tz2bs]

I always like to hear your thoughts on a movie, Shawn! Great as always. For me, unfortunately, if Zack Snyder was hired upfront to do PG13 movie about space and he accepted to do it, then there is no excuse for this shit. If he wanted to do some gritty R rated space movie, he should have waited for any studio to actually hire him to do it. This whole story about "I wanted an R rated, they wanted PG, so I adjusted my R rated idea into PG, but in future I will do my own R rated version" is annoying. I haven't watched part 2 yet, but part 1 was so bad, that I have no will to see part 2. And judging by the comments, I am not missing anything.

[@kieronchick1663]

Having sex and being extremely violent isn't some new thing that Zack Snyder created.

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

I'm not sure your point. No one said he did.

[@kieronchick1663]

@@SeanChandlerTalksAbout You said that Netflix made him take all his new things out of the PG version. If all that has been removed is sex and extreme violence, those things have been in a lot of movies and shows.

[@VesnaLukic-h8w]

PG 13 is not what makes this film unwatchible.If the characters were nude or dropping the f bombs every few minutes,wouldn't make them more interesting.Stop making excuse for Snyder.He is a bad screenwriter..period..He should be a cinemarographer,instead of director and screenwriter because his movies look beautiful.

[@805ryu4]

I kinda understood why WB scrapped the ZSJL, even though the Josstice League was of course far worse. If you think about it, a 4 hour justice league movie could really affect the box office growth of Justice League. I watched with some of my friends who were DC friends - yet some of them slept halfway because of how long it is. It just made it feel that sometimes his formula doesn't always work

[@thabreez456]

The difference been that ZSJL was actually a great movie. And i tell you why. Zack had Oscar Winner Chris Terrio writing for him. He had the entire DC lore with him. And he had great actors who fit their Comic Book roles

[@ndo533]

Snyders original cut wasn't 4 hrs. It was going to be at most 3 hrs and in theaters . Snyder overindulged for the Snydercut specifically bc it was going to streaming and he wanted to give his fans everything as a final send-off

[@TidusX16]

I could barely get through 30 minutes of this. I really wanted to give this a chance but it really was a waste of time. I think a big problem with Zack Snyder now is that he is not good at editing, writing, and directing but also that he is using director's cuts to undermine his own works. It's getting really annoying cause I'm just expecting that he won't ever make a good movie and won't ever get his true film and his want for R rating is not a good excuse either. Dune Part 1 and 2 proves how to handle a space epic and have great pacing, action, and characters. Rebel Moon just feels like a 13 year old's attempt at that with trying to be hardcore but also a film fan while also pointing to his Donnie Darko poster to prove it.

[@Korra228]

Zack has the mentality of a 13 year old. He's edgy. He thinks nudity and violence make movies better.

[@chunkysaurus785]

Bro will literally pull the “wait for the directors cut” excuse out if anyone criticizes his films

[@VesnaLukic-h8w]

I would let him make his longer cut (becsuse this was also his cut of 2 very long movies),but only if he pays it by himself,out of his own pocket.

[@sheraldhill2728]

He is too arrogant and not talented enough to do anything but take orders from talented and humble people.

[@Jdog8989]

The 10min montage of wheat chopping was the most pointless thing I’ve ever seen in a movie.

[@TheMaskedJedi999]

Apparently Netflix' contract required a version suitable for under 18s. It sounds as if he gave this the bare minimum effort and concentrated on the Director's Cut - not realising that no-one who'd seen the first two would bother to watch it

[@Korra228]

They should've called this movie "hack director: the moneywaster"

[@thedisneynerd7866]

This movie was the EMPTIEST film that i've seen. The characters back stories, I don't think made them any more interesting or compelling. Even when we were told all of their back stories in the middle of the film. It felt to me like they just gave everyone the same back story. So i didn't care if they survived or died in the film because they gave me NOTHING to attach myself to them. I didn't feel the stakes. I didn't feel what the characters were fighting for. Even the action in the third act was somehow so boring to watch! His use of slow mo is probably some of the worst he's ever done! I was just kinda miserable watching this film. It's not the worst movie i've seen this year. But it is easily in my bottom 5

[@NinthShinigami]

Same, and agreed with everything you said.

[@EntrEsprit]

yeah, i think they gave everyone the same backstory except for the former general guy. Also from my memory i can't recall a more phony love story than the one here between Corra and the farmer guy

[@khaiwong728]

With the exception of 300 ,and Watchmen i think all of Zack Snyder's movies are either average to downright terrible. From Sucker Punch, Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, His cut of Justice League, Army of the dead, and now Rebel Moon. I think we have seen the decline of Zack Snyder as a creditable filmmaker in the past 10 years.

[@Mr.Marvelous.Media.]

It’s a 2 hour movie that felt like an 6 hour movie

[@crazybear5475]

Synder is like a middle schooler who makes action movies they think looks cool. It's style, special effects and music OVER characters, story, plot, character development and meaningful acting. All his movies are that way really. It's all visuals that Zack thinks look cool but nothing else.

[@lloyd777]

Rebel moon is basically like the bug's life and kung fu panda 3 but not as good😂

[@isaacborrelli8795]

Hi Sean greetings from Australia I’m a huge fan of your work Do you think that this version will eventually make it into a Blu ray release

[@Humdrumv]

Love how Zack never takes any responsibility for anything ,I'm pretty sure in that Meeting with Netflix they had an in interest in content farming his work hence why they wanted a PG13 version which he was more than happy to do as he now has an "excuse" I'm pretty sure he will now spend the next year going through message boards and forums for what the fans want then doing "reshoots"

[@brandenmanuel2037]

Zack Snyder once again brings us Style over Substance

[@djofortunato5799]

His films are great To have on in the background while you do your laundry or some other dialogue deadening activity

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

Surprising no one... it sucked. 17:28 So these films are basically unfinished video games, it may not be done when it's released but if you wait awhile you'll get the full version. Is this the future of film where you get part of the film at first then have to wait until you can you know SEE THE ACTUAL FILM IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE!!!

[@charlesevanshughes3638]

My one sentence film pitch: The Battle of Castle Itter; Americans soldiers, German soldiers, and French prisoners need to team up to defend themselves against a fanatical SS legion in the last days of WWII.

[@purnenduray1130]

Anyone thinking of watching this movie , I'm just gonna say there's a scene of general Titus refilling his water bottle In SLO-MO and then a montage of farming in SLO-MO. How can you change the awful story and bad acting with a r rated version ? Also Zack Snyder need to hire a good cinematographer too , most of the scene looks just blurry ,

[@paradisecity0406able]

Sean should do an updated Zack Snyder ranking video. I definitely want to know where the Rebel Moon movies would rank for him

[@NinthShinigami]

Probably when part 3 is out. Even then we’ll prob have to wait for the director cuts (5 hrs each 💀)

[@a7000zo]

To me, both are dead last. Tbh, these are the first Snyder movies that I actively disliked. I was at least fascinated by Sucker Punch as an experiment of sorts, and while Army of the Dead was outrageously stupid, it at least benefited from a self aware tone that encouraged fun over seriousness. There's little to no redeeming qualities worth noting in these Rebel Moon movies, just purely derivative content with nothing to say.

[@ndo533]

​@@a7000zosame for me

[@peterfrost377]

There are many shows out there where I immediately care about the characters in the 1st episode: Aot, Fma, 86, Vivy etc. Same goes for shorts like: The 9th jedi, Journey to the dark head, Green arrow showcase & the Cyberpunk anime music video named "Let you down". Rebel moon has 4+ hours in total & yet it's almost the opposite. Enjoyed the 2nd one more but it's still nothing special.

[@NinthShinigami]

The amount of times I’ve cared about a character from the get go is too many to count for me

[@sergioliden5652]

Did you change the thumbnail? Your face went from “THIS IS SPARTA” to your face after watching Wrong Turn 5

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

Yes

[@sergioliden5652]

@@SeanChandlerTalksAbout That’s funny😆

[@TheSoapontheWii360]

Stop taking betterHelp sponsors

[@lurkzie]

I've honestly watched student films that were better than this

[@CashepetersenProduct]

Sounds like the buzz is it’s so bad that people are watching to see how bad it is. So maybe Netflix is actually pulling good numbers from it? 😂

[@talapantedtoad6461]

Zach synder feels like the vegemite of movie makers, there’s a small loyal isolated island of people that love him but for everyone he’s just too much.

[@Drifter1989]

I’ve been saying that releasing these pg-13 versions first only hurts the chances of the R rated versions getting viewership once they come out because people will write off the franchise by then since the pg-13 versions are letdowns. Should’ve waited to release both versions simultaneously so casual viewers can pick which to watch while critics can actually judge the true version of the story.

[@funkyd3321]

The amount of blood and sex isn't the problem with these shitty movies, so that is just another lame Hack Snyder excuse.

[@Humdrumv]

Not to defend this movie however the water bottle scene was meant to show General Titus giving us the "drink" and embracing sobriety so he can defend town... but it was done so amateurishly I understand why nobody got this...

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

With the line later on I guessed that's what it was doing to some extent. But yeah it was not handled in a particularly meaningful way

[@tommyancharuk9941]

I thought this franchise would be better . Its extremely mid and disappointing.

[@berjaboy]

At the risk of being called a sexist, it was another, in an ever lengthening line of Mary-Sue movies....... Evil loves a vacuum, and weak men create the perfect empty vessel that evil fills to push this nonsense.

[@pogo8050]

🤓

[@Syrilian]

The thing is saying "this is the movie Netflix let me make" doesn't absolve Snyder of anything. He agreed to it and he's the one that made the bad movie.

[@eap1234]

I’m tired of the studio blaming a good Director should be able to deliver a good PG-13 story within six hours

[@EntrEsprit]

Just watched it, it's terrible. Talk about wasting budgets... Can't remember the last time when after watching two movies i couldn't remember a single name of a character aside from the main protagonist

[@PestControl-lt2cu]

Dune: Part Two walked so Rebel Moon: Part Two could run

[@NightwingTV]

Nah

[@brandonfly4611]

Underrated comment, this had me chuckling.

[@elijahalbiston]

It's a good thing I love a long walk rather than a run

[@justicekelechi1483]

It’s a 10/10 for me

[@thomasbevan2626]

I feel like Zack snyder is good at making an overall story idea but yeah he shouldn’t be writing the script. He had story credits for Wonder Woman and Zack Snyders justice league but didn’t write the scripts. I like his dc movies, Dawn of the dead, 300 and army of the dead but sometimes he just gets so weird

[@wasabi-in-my-eye3134]

I wouldn't mind a zero len flares & zero slow mo cut

[@NorthLVLowRoller]

I dont know if I can even get myself to want to watch the rated R versions but if free, lol why not. If they suck maybe there will be a ultimate edition mature rated version haha.

[@jacobfleming3926]

I didn’t even mind the first one. I kinda enjoyed it but at the same time I could clearly see that there was absolutely no personality to any of the characters and the plot was just so straightforward and bland. I literally liked it simply because of the way it looked. I couldn’t care less about the story. Ironically, the most interesting character I thought was Jimmy. And he was barely in it.

[@Peachgorillafit]

So far the only Zack Snyder movie I have liked has been the 300. Not another movie that I’ve seen by him have I enjoyed. Not even justice league. I don’t get it. I feel all the films are bloated self indulgent Director crap. I loved the 300.

[@joeysmovieblog]

Im a huge fan of Snyder. But this whole releasing a butchered cut has made me loose interest in this Rebel Moon franchise

[@WarlordRising]

Zack Snyder is best when he works on material that isn't original. 300, Watchmen, Dawn of the Dead, and the better portion of his DC trilogy. When he's greenlit to make his own original material is when things get REALLY bad. Sucker Punch and Rebel Moon.

[@jacindaellison3363]

Hey Sean! Do you think Zack Snyder could do a rated R Biblical Epic on Samson if he were given the right amount of control?

[@tmac731]

I would love if they do accurate biblical stories but it’s Risky

[@jacindaellison3363]

@@tmac731 There's a way to make it accurate without being blasphemous. It just needs the right people behind the project. With Samson, I watched this detailed review of one that came out back in 2015, I think, and it really sanitized who Samson was. I'm not saying it must be sleazy but for Pete's sake, don't dilute who the guy was!

[@a7000zo]

I like Zack Snyder because, love or hate his films, they're always uniquely unorthodox in their approach to storytelling, and thus they're always fascinating to discuss (with the right people). That's exactly why these Rebel Moon films deeply dissapoint me. They don't feel like they come from someone with something to say about the conflicts or the genre sandbox he's playing on. They just feel like soulless, derivative & bland genre pieces that play onto the Snyderisms as borderline self-parody, like one of those social media edits you'd commonly see from people who attempt to make fun of his style. If Netflix wasn't being supportive of Snyder's original ideas, then either they shouldn't have financed it at all, or Snyder should've willingly collaborated with his producing partners to find the best story possible within the parameters he was given, even if it meant PG-13 and straightforward narrative. Either way, these versions we got should've never happened.

[@degarmoj1]

More so then over before, and I have heard it said best, that ZS is about and obsessed with not just simply slow mo, or excessive “symbolic” captures (that practically no one but he knows/understands and has to explain in a interview(s)), but “Moments”. Ex. Part 1 slow motion sacrifice jump to destroy an enemy ship… who is that guy again? Why do we care? Who was his companion that was sad again? Who cares, look at how cool it was and why the symbolic sacrifice has “depth”. After viewing it, you can’t complain, you “should” feel sad, and if don’t, you just don’ get it or missing the creative genius behind the scene. Part 2 robot, who is barely in the movie and is a place holder for narration and exposition, suddenly jumps in superhero style in time of need, kills practically everyone, is indestructible, and finishes the scene with full on slow motion “moment” with a superhero landing…. Why did he change his mind? Why not come earlier? What was his name again? Don’t worry, maybe it will be covered in Part 3, but even if it isn’t, you should realize how awesome that scene was and shut up. Moments alone don’t make a movie.

[@degarmoj1]

*ever before

[@lukerota1547]

Whether you love or hate the guy (and his films), you can’t deny that there’s hardly any other public figure who can get the internet talking as much as Mr Zack Snyder! As someone who unashamedly really dug the first film, I found myself being rather conflicted with Part Two. Although it is arguably better than Part One, the positives still don’t really outshine the negatives. Part Two is slower, unbalanced, and emotionally devoid. As it stands, while I do still like both films more than most, I am yet to be blown away by either film. I’m also unsure which film I prefer the most as of yet!

[@JSPokemonYT]

I saw this movie earlier today & I give it a 7/10. I'll be waiting for the Director's Cut of these two movies.

[@Sherif-the-Watcher]

Most people are being unreasonably hateful but you took your time to explain what made dis horrible and the strengths and weaknesses of Zack Snyder

[@souldrum86]

As a huge Snyder fan myself. This is a movie where I can't see how a directors cut will be any better. With BvS watching that film you could tell things were missing. Important story elements were completely cut out. So directors cut of BVS made sense. With rebel moon, it's all around a bad movie. Easily his worst project. Adding sex and more violence won't make this movie better. On top of that it will be longer. If they ever sold this in stores I'd pass. Every Snyder movie you can buy I own. This, I would leave in the dumpster.

[@alexwallar8608]

I really hate that we're getting directors cuts. I mean if people who saw these movies and didn't like them, then why would they stick around and watch the supposedly "superior" versions

[@VesnaLukic-h8w]

Of all complaints I've heard about these two movies,none of them were "I needed to see more blood"or "if only the main characters were nude,it eould be a masterpiece"They all said it has a shitty dialoge,too much slow motion and totally forgatible characters,and that has nothing to do with PG 13.

[@javierfebronio8907]

This is just sad. I haven't seen Rebel Moon, but I think a vacuum, an original "Science fantasy" inspired by Star Wars would be a smash hit as long as it has a strong story with well-written characters. An interesting premise in an interesting world with interesting lore can only do so much

[@MrCrisisZ]

Network execs forced him to have a female lead and probably several other changes and studio interference combined with poor writing just made this a mess. Why are we on the farm land for an hour. And how is only one town covering the whole moon? The settlement is a small town and it's going to feed an empire? Maybe a moon with 300 million but this huge scope feels so small.

[@Handofchalk090]

Cast is a perfectly balanced, yet the film lacks continuity. Many scene makes zero sense on screen. Zack should only hold a sword never a pen.

[@thiagopena3258]

Hey Sean, what’s your pick for a good cameo in a bad movie?

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

The Rebel Got Mooned ahh movie

[@ryanking8227]

I don't regret seeing it I think it's slightly better than part 1. A- in my opinion

[@thomasraimbault4668]

I just want to watch the directors cuts and see how they compare to these versions

[@Nicho213007]

if you ask me he's only ever made 2 good movies yes not great but good and those are 300 and Dawn of the Dead

[@alexwallar8608]

I don't like Snyder. His movies aren't as deep as both he and his fans think they are. His movies never feel real, they always seem artificial, his movies are always to dark and dreary. I hate what he did to Superman and Batman. Superman should never be edgy, or brooding, he should never question if humans deserve to be saved. Batman Does. Not. Kill. And no just because the other live-action Batmen have killed doesn't make it ok.

[@yv3652]

Its not good but the last third was pretty entertaining. Action scenes good "emotional" scenes.. Awkward and pretty bad.

[@TiciaM]

There is also two different Star Trek shows with that theme. I'm fairly sure Voyager did this, and I KNOW Enterprise did this.

[@AshtonM2008]

I wish that netflix would've just had him make his R rated directors cut rebel moon comig out over the summer than these movies

[@dw.dunphy]

There's no reason why they wouldn't unless this is all kayfabe to tweak the Snyder loyalists.

[@jasoncarter1869]

He seems to use "place holder" generic dialog...but he doesn't replace it. That's unfortunate.

[@sergioliden5652]

Two things… first, pretty hilarious that Zack Snyder intended to make a Deadpool/Scream version of the sci-fi tropes. Watching Rebel Moon 1&2 is like watching a PG-13 version of Scream and without the commentary, so you’re just seeing a Halloween and When a Stranger Calls ripoff. Second, how do you typically find all these interviews you show us?

[@dcalltheway610]

The Drunk choosing to Drink water is important? - yeah man, that is called character growth.

[@hexagonshorts2186]

Director's cut is like the bug fix update of movie world. Game devs does the exact same thing. Release an unpolished game and then promise future updates. Why??

[@dbeardsley0]

Been a fan of Zack for years, JL 2021, 300 and MOS are a couple of my favorites. The pg13 Rebel Moons are not very good, I am looking forward to the directors cut just cuz I've been a fan of his forever now

[@chrisjherman]

Both movies are terrible and Zack Snyder is one of the worst filmmakers working today.

[@Duke-ou6mv]

You must be high

[@christopherdavis678]

​@Duke-ou6mv Actually he's spot on 🎯

[@bubbleglove4935]

I wouldn’t say one of the worst but I think he’s incredibly under equipped to execute and express his ideas. Almost no ideas he has in his movies are expressed particularly well, and that’s the issue

[@bigdealtheflyest3243]

​@@christopherdavis678 No he's not

[@bigdealtheflyest3243]

This movie is actually really great!!! Let's be real u don't think u actually hate the movie. U hate it bcos it's Zack that made it!!! And that's very stupid 💯🤦

[@rodneywyatt9441]

Ripoff Moon-The scabies giver. Another trash vehicle heading over the cliff into the trash bin of history. Now you know why Netflix didn't promote this clunker after the awful reactions to the first film.😂😂 This film is dead as Dillinger. To quote Admiral Akbar, "Its a TRAP"!!!!!😂😂😂

[@Crazymoviefan_23]

As someone who didn't care for Part One, I actually really enjoyed this continuation.

[@ELI134-k4k]

I didn't enjoy this movie very much it was messy and shackled to a pg 13 rating which is sad to say because I love Zack Snyder

[@VesnaLukic-h8w]

Would you care more for the charecters if they would drop f word in every sentense,or if they would be covered in blood from head to tow?Because ,that's what r rsting means.

[@jackyjansen1012]

He s a very mediocre filmmaker