Secret recording 'final proof' former Post Office boss Paula Vennells knew about Horizon issues

The politician, who campaigned for justice for wrongly convicted sub-postmasters, says the secret recording of a meeting in 2013 attended by Paula Vennells - exclusively revealed by ITV News last week - answers a question campaigners have been asking for years about what she knew and when.
On July 2 2013, in a meeting with independent investigators Ian Henderson and Ron Warmington from Second Sight, Ms Vennells was made aware of allegations that Sub-postmaster branch accounts could be accessed remotely.
This is something the Post Office had denied for years as hundreds of Sub-postmasters were convicted.
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[@Haberdashery22]

30 years in prison and fully asset-stripped. Her liquid assets should be confiscated to pay towards court costs, the £100m court case that needn't have taken place due to her lies, subpostmaster recompense and us the tax-payer. She should have her post office pension confiscated too. What a disgraceful woman.

[@user-ce1ol8bj7o]

all assets must be taken from her

[@arghjayem]

Nice- probably won’t happen though. She’ll get a slap on the wrist and a waggling finger telling her not to do it again and then a place in the House of Lords knowing this government. 🤣

[@JohnJones-wo1bc]

hear, hear.

[@Bor-Time]

@@arghjayem She is part of the club and when you know that people are getting arrested, killing themselves, divorced, family's torn apart due to a fault that you know and publicly deny this error?? You are a true sociopath to be able to have a sound sleep at night, very scary.

[@cassie-mm2pk]

@@Bor-Time Of course she sleeps well at night, from her point of view she was and is carrying out God's work.

[@andersonomo597]

It's now clear she lied to Parliament! ARREST HER NOW!!

[@outlaw6421]

Lied to parliment,lied in courts,a total cover up at sub post masters expense,she should be charged with corruption and some of there lawyers

[@brianmoran.]

That won’t happen! Not in the UK!

[@occamraiser]

That's not a crime - or the place would be empty

[@doughill1945]

Quite likely but do not forget that the Government had a Director on the Board. It could be she was just following the Governments instructions and hence the damehood and a new role in the Cabinet office. Lots still to come out including the recusal request.

[@olliehunter1846]

@@occamraiserspot on!! 😂😂😂😂

[@mrmyorky5634]

She didn't just allow totally innocent people to go to prison. She deliberately sent them to prison in order to cover up something that she KNEW was a disastrous failure. Paula Vennells will live on in history as a shining example of an totally revolting human being.

[@andydudley1775]

she did not do this alone .how did she get the impression she could with thinking if she should. she not yet spoken but i wonder what the people who truly to blame will be giving her in return.rishi sunak it partnered with fijitsu follow the money.

[@peterjackson2625]

She should be jailed.

[@dominionphilosophy3698]

And not her alone.

[@CatchYourselfOn]

If there was actual justice in this country, Paula would spend as much time in jail as every single sub-postmaster had to.

[@stormythelowcountrykitty7147]

But there isn’t justice in Britain.

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@uniquevideosUk]

Ed was still aware of problems, yet he's a 🐍his way out of it & doing what Ministers always do, that's pass the book, he should definitely be responsible.

[@uniquevideosUk]

Ed knew there was a problem aswell.

[@soundseeker63]

@@solariss452 Sad but true. But I don't think this one's going to fade away too fast though, there's a lot of public anger and considerable press and political interest in this. She may be wealthy and well connected but even so, lying to parliament is very serious indeed and the PMs involved now as well..

[@user-ce1ol8bj7o]

Paula Vennells enjoyed watching whilst she inflicted pain, prison, death, family breakdown, depression, bankrupcy, homelessness etc on other people...a seriously sick and dangerous individual, she could have stopped it at any time...but carried on doing it again and again and again....this is a psychopath pretending to be human?

[@karlroberts5138]

She should have falted everything. Called in Fujitsu. Stopped all legal cases, all loses, intervened. She shouldhave asked Fujitsu to put it right, and cover the costs of the screw ups. She did nothing. She had a moment to act and she blew it. She is not a leader, she is a parasite feeder.

[@ashleywilson2072]

I worry too. She fought to become a bishop also. She seems to enjoy the power. Psychopaths succeed in business, as they are incapable of empathy. In a way I feel sorry for her. She simply isn't equipped to feel genuine sorrow or sympathy

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

AND she wanted to be a fecking bishop! The hypocrisy!

[@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794]

Demonic power Will belong to the Cult & that's how & why she got so high in church & PO

[@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794]

​@@ashleywilson2072 No, you don't feel sorry for demons , whether directly or if they work through people. No, no, no

[@EmptyGlass99]

If she and some of her colleagues do not serve any custodial sentence then there is no justice left in this country.

[@bsimpson6204]

If the government knew what was going on I wouldn’t expect to see justice here.

[@theresearcher253]

They won't. People like them do not send people like them to prison.

[@anthonyallder3658]

That's a true opinion

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@styuggs]

Don't hold your breath

[@sbeasley1785]

The level of corruption and criminality within the top echelons of society is horrifying - just HOW EVIL would a person need to be to KNOWINGLY allow innocent people to go to prison?

[@tonychorley4936]

Especially someone who led church services and was supposed to be an example to others.

[@lllordllloyd]

The next time some politician or newspaper proprietor is selling you fear of refugees, pedos and the European Parliament, you all have to WISE THE F UP and see through the distraction. They want the dumb voter chasing the laser pointer so they can get away with this on a hundred fronts.

[@bennewnham4497]

Well look over here...someone has just opened their eyes to reality.

[@vinnparaffin6082]

​@@tonychorley4936.....some sort of 'cover' surely !

[@TheSoupdragon1968]

Please do not forget she is a Christian preacher too.... How very Christian....

[@nockianlifter661]

She should be in prison for life. The degree of suffering she caused and then knowing about it.

[@stevenclarke5606]

People took their own lives, because of her lies and deceit!

[@gillkind4907]

Everyone agrees something should be done, that they should be held to account but those who have the power don't act..I'm so ashamed of my country. There is no justice. And postmasters should be compensated urgently.

[@dismalfist]

SEND POLICE *NOW* - She may attempt to flee and MUST stand trial.

[@hugolindum7728]

She won’t flee. She won’t spend a day in prison either.

[@sighfly2928]

They won’t even call her disgraced in the title, this criminal is apparently still an ex-boss

[@tonyevic]

The Police are too busy looking at ‘hate speech’ to be concerned with real injustices.

[@catabaticanabatic3800]

🤣Where do you suggest she might "flee " to?

[@hugolindum7728]

@@catabaticanabatic3800 She could go to any of the dozens of countries without an extradition treaty with the UK. She won’t though because her lawyers have advised her she’s not going to be prosecuted, let alone convicted.

[@guynoblepersonaltraining5074]

If this woman is not arrested it’d be an outrage to justice

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@stevetee4145]

She’s only sorry because she’s been found out. She needs a prison sentence.

[@richardinglis9805]

I have heard this before someone called boris johnston made the same excuses is jail time to good for them.

[@Setinmywaysalways]

Why are the MET remaining Silent on this, they and others were quick enough to Charge and Jail the Postmasters, they cannot and should not drag their feet any further.

[@richbrown8174]

They were private prosecutions brought privately by the Post Office

[@Setinmywaysalways]

@@richbrown8174 The Trial Judge reported 2 Individuals already to the MET, for perjury.

[@tonychorley4936]

@@SetinmywaysalwaysSo nothing will happen then.

[@Liverpoolboy01]

Because it's the Met, governments enforcers

[@darrensutton5940]

The initial investigations and prosecutions were nothing to do with either the police or CPS. The post office have always had the power to investigate and prosecute their own cases. This is part of the problem that allowed them to continue to withhold evidence and the disclosure of documents to the defence. Sorry, but there is no blame on the police in this matter.

[@user-bu9nb8wr6e]

Crimes need to be prosecuted.

[@edmundprice5276]

Good luck getting justice in this country

[@waikanaebeach]

Crozier, the prior CEO also needs to be held to account. He is equally implicated.

[@Jon-xw9om]

Not by ITV, he wasn't. 😆

[@TheSoupdragon1968]

He knew exactly what was going on, someone somewhere has it on record of him knowing.... It will come out, as management try to save to save there own skins!

[@guff9567]

Why is Vennells not behind bars ?

[@fasthracing]

Because she has not been in court yet

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794]

​@@solariss452How true

[@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794]

​@@fasthracing Because the judiciary and police are equally corrupt & belong to the same Cult. There is no law in this country. The elite criminals run all shows

[@lw3646]

​@@fasthracingyou steal a Mars bar and you'd be arrested, charged and dealt with by the courts in short order. Commit corporate crimes though and it seems to take years for any action.

[@marcusp905]

20 years in prison!!

[@EthanZoid]

200

[@samuelpayne7619]

She won’t go to prison!! However, she got her reservation in Hell!! I suspect and hope she feels like, she already arrived!!

[@spartacusforlife1508]

Isn't this enough evidence for the police to arrest Vennels? She misled the parliamentary committee and from the time she knew Fujitsu were able to remotely enter post masters computers the post office was still prosecuting people

[@stevenclarke5606]

She’s on tape admitting that she knew that the system was deeply flawed, but still persecuted and hounded these Sub Postmasters resulting in people taking their own lives, jail time, criminal record and they lost their jobs, homes . All because this Evil Woman was determined to make them the scapegoat’s .

[@kevinwebb6338]

Well then the police need to go and arrest her. People committed suicide, while others were put in jail because of her.

[@kirishima638]

One rule for us, another for the rich.

[@48Trebor]

This is absolutely disgraceful. Those involved should be held accountable severely accountable.

[@richardkinghorn4729]

They all knew and did everything they could to lie and lie and lie to cover it up. All of them should be arrested and held in jail until they go to court. If found guilty then all assets seized to pay towards the compensation, then serve a long long time in jail.

[@Jazz-tv4qr]

All in it together, the lot, all the witnesses and lawyers for the post office, I just hope its proved at a trial.

[@richardkinghorn4729]

@@Jazz-tv4qr it was as big a cover up as it can be, possibly one of the biggest. If those who responsible for it are not prosecuted and jailed then justice is not being met with the same force as they used on the sub-postmasters.

[@leannetrotter4414]

THIS IS HORRIBLY HORRIBLY HORRIBLY WRONG AND MORE !!!

[@fleshboundtobone]

Who has sat on these tapes for 20 years only to release them now??

[@duncabiscuit]

Good point

[@Setinmywaysalways]

Second Sight, and as a Company who knew about these matters, had a Legal & Moral duty to report them. They are Complicit, especially after talking about "Bloody Whistleblowers"

[@zetectic7968]

2013 was 10 years ago not 20

[@leso204]

@fleshboundtobone : someone who recognised this could be bad to be associated with & recorded the convo' as a get out of jail card ..............

[@govermentsoundsystemrootik8887]

​@@zetectic7968just to be clear this all started in 1999 when the horizon system was installed onto the post office computer systems that caused all this in the first place but it wasn't until 2011 that all what we now know started to become general knowledge u till the TV program knocked this out of the park....!!!

[@damianleah6744]

What are the police waiting for?

[@Liverpoolboy01]

You are ta lying about the MET, just another corrupt organization

[@ProffAndy]

For you to say something "unpleasant", or to drive at 33 mph in a 30 mph zone.

[@AndyA1234]

There was no waiting for a full inquiry to report when the subpostmasters were being dragged through the courts. Two-tiered justice system.

[@portcullis5622]

We all know how things work in this country. If you are charged with breaking the law and end up in court, you have a much better chance of walking free if you are guilty and wealthy than you would if you were innocent and poor. Vennels, Parker, Davey, Crozier and all the other senior Post Office managers who presided over this outrageous scandal are unlikely to receive any punishment. They will employ top lawyers who will do whatever it takes to keep them out of court. The people responsible for this cover up/fraud/scandal/ huge miscarriage of justice will simply lie low for a while and then, in a few years time, when the media interest has all died down, they will walk into very well paid jobs somewhere else. That is the way of things in Britain.

[@user-de8bu5es6f]

Absolutely true. 100%.

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@tonytricks]

TRUTH

[@sleepinglioness5754]

Look at the courts and how they can authorize euthanizing disabled babies against the parents' wishes because it will cost the government. Murderers stay in prison for life and it costs millions, but a disabled baby is executed because the courts and hospitals/government won't let the parents take their babies home. Too many Paula Vennels types without conscience in the UK judicial system and government system.

[@drcarp7377]

“The last thing we want is some bloody whistleblower”! Not only did she know, but the disgraceful attitude to those who may have wanted to expose the truth is laid bare.

[@Independent-Revolutionary]

Not only should she pay the post masters so should Fujistu they are both responsible for this travesty of justice, then Jail her and others. And those responsible should be charged with the deaths of those who took their own lives because of the allegations.

[@karlroberts5138]

Jail terms, across the board, including the lawyer firm, and anyone WHO knew that post masters were facing criminal prosecutions. They knew full well the system was flawed and did nothing. So in some cases it's corporate manslaughter but I would say its worst. THey knew and planned to do nothing, so its more closer to murder of those who lost their lives. This was not by accident

[@catabaticanabatic3800]

You are deluded. How can you be charged with the death of somebody committing suicide? What would the charge be exactly?

[@mrmyorky5634]

@@catabaticanabatic3800 Clearly you have never yet been accused of something that you are totally innocent of. It happened to me many years ago and believe me the stress level that you go through is off the scale even though you are totally innocent.

[@philipmilner9638]

If that's true then the Japanese should pay all compensation not the British tax payer...

[@smith5796]

haha lol

[@sensibledriver933]

I seems to me everyone is saying UK gov should pay. It should be squarely on Fujitsu. They built a rubbish system witha backdoor. On whose orders did they do that?

[@adrianlloyd6403]

Why was Paula Vennells ever nominated for an honour in the first place? Are gongs handed out for public service as a matter of routine or do you have to actually earn these honours? Apparently you can be totally incompetent,or worse, at your job,get very well remunerated through salary and bonuses with tax payer money, and yet an honour is automatically bestowed on an individual as a matter of course.Just about sums up public services in the UK at present.Failure is highly rewarded.

[@zetectic7968]

All the more shocking that she was considered for the position of Bishop of London yet had no problem breaking the 9th Commandment: thou shalt not bear false witness(lie)

[@adrianlloyd6403]

@@zetectic7968 The Establishment look after their own in every aspect of British society.Look how Anthony Blunt was protected for so many years.The vile treacherous creature should've been outed from the start.

[@leso204]

@adrianlloyd6403 : better ask cameron that one ................

[@3bebles]

And please do not forget... How did she manage to get ordained in the Church of England and be shortlisted in 2017 as a prospective Bishop of London??? Is she still officiating as a priest???What are her parishoners and the Archbishop of Canterbury thinking?

[@adrianlloyd6403]

@@leso204 I believe she got it under May in actual fact

[@philspencelayh5464]

Surely this demonstrates that a conspiracy took place to persecute the postmasters.

[@mksd1236]

“….some bloody whistleblower…” shows how these executive and lawyers really really think. Lie unless the truth is public.

[@garyporter4198]

That's one of the guys from "Second Sight" that says that, who've been painted as the "Good guys who helped uncover this". Sounds more like they were advising the Post Office Board of what they needed to get ahead of and he ready to fight against than "You Are In The Wrong And Need To Admit This Now"

[@Tyrrituil]

​@@garyporter4198I think he was just speaking to the audience, they indicates he thinks she can no sort it after she leaves the call

[@mksd1236]

@@Tyrrituil You could be right… a way to somewhat “please” the client paying them money.

[@mksd1236]

@@garyporter4198Very possible.

[@bennewnham4497]

All of the Post Office senior managers should be in a jail cell. A complete disgrace that this scandal happened and ALL of them have escaped consequences of any kind. An example of how the rich and powerful operate above the law.

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@hardysingh5003]

... If only the average citizen enjoyed such privilege of never ending immunity.

[@ScratchcardsWithScotty]

Arrest her, Question her, Charge her, Jail her ..,

[@lw3646]

There's plenty of others too who look like they played their part willingly..

[@CYCHIATRIC]

Nothing will happen to her. No executives will be held responsible. It will happen again. ETA: Vennells and the executives responsible will lead lead long, happy and affluent lives.

[@marksavage1108]

they put Lord Archer away for much less and the expenses theives . they cant hide 780 cases of conspiring to pervert the course of justice.

[@occamraiser]

It is up to US to ensure that she doesn't get away with it. Have you emailed you MP and the PM and the leader of the opposition to say you demand that she be charged, and the crime you think you can prove? If not, then go and do it.

[@CYCHIATRIC]

@@occamraiser On 15th February 2003 1.5-2 million people marched in London alone to oppose the Iraq war. We live in a world where power is the ultimate reality. We don't have any. Vennells and corporate executives do. Maybe spit in their food if you work in a Mitchellin starred restaurant.

[@CYCHIATRIC]

My first reply to you was removed so i'll have another go (tells you all you need to know right?). On 15th February 2003 1.5-2 million people marched in London alone against the Iraq war. We live in a world where power is all. Vennells and corporate executives have it. We don't. Maybe spit in their food if you work in a Mitchelin starred restaurant because that's all we've got. @@occamraiser

[@CYCHIATRIC]

My first reply to you was removed so i'll have another go (tells you all you need to know right?). On 15th February 2003 1.5-2 million people marched in London alone against the Iraq war. We live in a world where power is all. Vennells and corporate executives have it. We don't. @@occamraiser

[@andrewgreenwood8554]

This can’t get any worse can it. Not so what the point of the enquiry is now. Just get them to trial.

[@johnhayes1635]

They are all starting to panic that's why it's all coming out so they can throw her under the bus

[@Liverpoolboy01]

You would not heard of this if it was not because of the enquiry.

[@andrewgreenwood8554]

@@Liverpoolboy01 Good point

[@Liverpoolboy01]

@@andrewgreenwood8554 , thank you.. however I’m as sceptical as you. Leveson, Hillsborough , no one called to book !!! And we pay for them. The Post Office pay , law firms and the Horizons guys . Not forgetting Chilcott

[@patriciaclark6171]

How she even dared to put herself forward for ordination is mind boggling. She was even shortlisted to be Bishop of London 😡😡

[@peterhanlon8324]

That down to being supported by Arch bishop woke Welby

[@probro9898]

​@peterhanlon8324 The Archsnozzer off Snozzbury. The way the Church is going I've a good mind to join GAFCON.

[@ralphplumb7027]

This is how these narcissists work!. She thinks she would never be questioned about any wrong doing once she was ordained!! Well she’s going to get her karma now..

[@Dadopersoblueboots]

She should Go to jail

[@martinjameslewis5702]

Prison.

[@andrewsmith1452]

She should have her assets seized, they have been earned from criminal activity that's the law enforce it

[@3bebles]

What of her religious status ??? WHEN and HOW did she manage to get ordained in the Church of England and be shortlisted in 2017 as a prospective Bishop of London??? Is she still officiating as a priest???What are her parishoners and the Archbishop of Canterbury thinking?

[@rodjones117]

Rank hypocrisy, typical of the Church.

[@josephinedewar4469]

😅 4:54 After returning her award and not appointed as the Bishop of London, Revd Vennells was then appointed to another prestigious role by the Archbishop, as reported in the Church Times. I assume he will be giving a statement, at his convenience, as to why this was done ? The damage done by Revd. Vennells and her cohorts is more than appalling and a stain on the CofE's reputation, diminishing the many good works it does, such as setting up Food Banks, opening centres for the homeless plus many other much needed community services addresssing ills in society, mostly carried out by the laity. Church Leadership requires of itself to demonstrate the highest moral and ethical values to all its followers at all times. Let us hope it will explain its stance in this matter.

[@JoelJoel321]

"Ladies and gentlemen... we got her."

[@zetectic7968]

Not yet.

[@JoelJoel321]

@FreeToSurvive Go to prison for 10 years.

[@user-sx3pk8mf1r]

How does she proposed to raise those that committed suicide from the dead, apologise to the families and refund funeral costs ?

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

This is how us little people are treated: With utter contempt.

[@Stan_55UK]

Precisely.

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@smithbrownjones]

There's a fair few of them that should be locked up. Shameful.

[@paullay9869]

"If some bloody whistleblower...." I assume this gentleman means if someone knows how wrong this is and tells the truth!. These people need to have custodial sentences to make them realise their contempt for the truth does not outweigh the seriousness of their crimes!

[@stub6378]

He’s a good guy. He’s not part of it.

[@leejeffery-gu2vu]

Where are the arrested?! Come on, if this was you and I we would of been arrested and charged 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@marcusaurelius49]

Funny how the feeling of great sympathy are only extended once the scandal is exposed. Where is the empathy and morality while it was happening in real time? Its almost like they don’t real feel it, they just say what they think they should. That is what psychopaths do too

[@andym.6141]

Sounds like we’re going to need a ‘Mr. Bates and the Post Office’ part 5, 6, 7 & 8. 😡

[@TheGrouchyYorkshireman]

Conspiracy charges need bringing against them ALL

[@__maxwell_]

Prison

[@Mike-hg1fn]

How she can get up in the morning and put two feet on the floor is astonishing. If anyone ever wants proof that evils are roaming Earth disguised as humans, here it is.

[@judewestburner]

I wonder how long she can hide behind 'the inquiry'

[@peterw4338]

There are wider issues. The PO scandal is one of many that show the British judicial system is broken and not fit for purpose; this applies to both criminal and civil procedures. Judges decisions are not independent but highly bias in favour of government bodies and corporates. Most judges are also barristers and they will judge in favour of their colleagues. Joe public has no chance.

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@user-ck8zu9tm1o]

Surely there must be custodial sentences handed out to those within Post Office people top down who knew things but did nothing to stop it. It's freighting to think that what befell the Sub Post Masters could happen to any of us and that there are people who just don't care.

[@occamraiser]

Malicious prosecution of people known to be innocent MUST carry the same penalty as the miscreants attempted to impose on innocent people - the same penalty IN TOTAL - so 100 people liable to prison for a year makes the crime deserve a 100year punishment.

[@SoberOKMoments]

Scandal is too soft a word for this. Evil and inhuman come closer. Justice must be served.

[@damianleah6744]

This is a two tier system one for those at the top and one for everyone else.

[@SoberOKMoments]

Just like in the United States!

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@Mike_5]

Fujitsu clearly need to be removed from all contracts as they are using their control centre to correct 'Mistakes' outside out of all Audit trails

[@richardchapman1270]

It would be nice to put Vennels in Holloway pending her giving evidence to the Inquiry. Won't happen, of course, but it would be a measure of justice for those wrongly imprisoned.

[@chiddnews7338]

How bad would it be for going inside for stiching up lots of innocents

[@alho9231]

Let's hope now we get some prosecutions! Don't forget she's not alone!

[@NathanChisholm041]

Send her to jail now!!

[@BlueJazzBoyNZ]

So evil, such BS Got to Jail.. !!!! So Many hundreds of innocent Peoples and Family's lives put to the torch. Despicable

[@lllordllloyd]

The HUGE open question is, what was the motivation to change the numbers and what happened to all that money? Paula Venal's statament: "I fully support kicking this can down the road for at least a few more years". Her legal counsel should never practice again, and of course various figures at Fujitsu need to find their way into cold cells.

[@kevinthepilgrim5441]

My understanding is that Horizon were accessing their systems overnight to cover up faults in their software. Unfortunately, to avoid criticism, the Sub Post Masters were not told. To avoid being automatically locked out of the system for the following days and lose income and have suspicions directed at them, the SPMs moved figures around, which many later admitted to, to try and balance the shortfalls. The shortfalls and discrepancies were the result of the faulty Horizon system and there was no actual disappearing monies. There were three scandals (at least). Firstly the faulty software that was covered up, the covert but known regular changing of Post Office takings, and the final cover up of what was taking place by senior management et al that led to miscarriages of justice and wrongful convictions.

[@lllordllloyd]

@@kevinthepilgrim5441 Thanks. I'm an Australian who has come a bit late to this story, it's utterly amazing.

[@MichaelGill-im8wh]

How cruel to do this to lovely people.🌹

[@DiRtYLaWs2007]

She should be in prison. Disgusting corruption.

[@peterpeecock7721]

What am I missing? If a forensic accountant says X pounds is missing from an account, where has the actual money disappeared to? Has it [falsely] gone into the organisation's accounts and bumped up their bottom line/profit?

[@Chris-kn4vf]

She should be jailed - it's an absolute travesty

[@Dentos19]

Now they have proof let’s see some action to resolve all this cover up and give the people the money and justice they deserve

[@foucaro]

I'm so impressed by the courage of the sub postmasters.

[@ommanomnom]

We have had enough of bankers, elites, politicians not going to jail when they have blood on their hands!

[@yov001]

Why are these people not being investigated by the police?

[@veraarmitage]

give her a big fat pension, reward her that is what uk law wants to do that is why paula is above the law of this fine country we all know she should get 20years or should she let put it to a vote or how about a jury

[@markpaul1154]

Anyone else would already be in a cell for perverting the course of justice. Some are more equal than others.

[@dh2032]

you need to get it in a courtroom for that? , as you have noticed already all the under handiness is being played no where near count building neverminded in a actual courtroom, if and when it ever gets a courtroom, all backstabbing will of all been done, and will act like little cherubs', and it was all some elses problem, the best where going get, they all leave, gold wage settlement more than like payed for by us to?

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@martinobrien7110]

Criminal Charges .

[@johnwilson571]

Why hasn’t the Lady been arrested. Totally wrong if she isn’t.

[@adrianbaron4994]

She deserves to lose every penny of her salary and bonuses she paid herself during this time, her home, her savings, her possessions...the lot. And go to prison.

[@phillipdavis9786]

Why is she not in jail 😐

[@paulh3122]

“What should be the consequences for her here do you think?” Question asked. “Very very serious retribution” was the reply. In normal speak that means FCK ALL. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO HER.

[@catherinegrimes2308]

Don't worry, she will be arrested, charge, have her time in court and will serve a long sentence. Considering her age, it will probably be forever for her. Why do I say that? What she has done is so egregious that the public demand it, she has embarrassed senior politicians and she is expendable.

[@paulh3122]

@@catherinegrimes2308 I do hope you’re right Catherine.👍

[@catherinegrimes2308]

@@paulh3122 Thanks Paul, I hope so as well. Judging by her behaviour, I think that she is a nasty piece of work who has trampled over people to get to the top. I have the feeling that she is going to feign mental illness and try to get off that way. After watching quite a few videos of the inquiry, quite a few of the Post Office staff seem to have early signs of dementia because they cannot seem to remember anything about their part in the scandal.

[@Steve-el9by]

Nice idea in principal. Unfortunately this is england​@@catherinegrimes2308

[@gerrywhelan7426]

Ron Warmington 'some bloody whistleblower' says it all about the cover up.

[@SAHBfan]

Those at the top were very, very determined, enthusiastic even, to punish those they had decided were wrong doers. Ok. Now let us see this approach applied in their case….

[@richardinglis9805]

Total discracefull behaviour this woman should be investigated by the 🚓🚨🚓🚨🚓🚨 police why is this not happening why are the police doing nothing about this she shouldn't be allowed to hide behind the post office enquiry she has lied and lied again. Come on police the ball is in your court

[@roddersfiftynine]

I wonder how many secretly recorded conversations have yet to be released !! If we lied to Parliament we`d already have been cautioned and been brought before a judge.

[@KeepItSimpleSailor]

Fast track the judicial process regarding all these senior members of post service, esp Ms Venells.

[@billdennis3681]

Why is she not in prison?.

[@Stephen0988]

Still not under arrest how deep is the state?

[@wyattfamily8997]

Anyone going to suffer ANY PENALTIES at all when they KNOWINGLY caused the imprisonment of innocent Postmasters...???

[@solariss452]

She's too well connected to be bothered and It'll just fade away with time. Us poor folk can't afford proper access to justice and she's exempt from it. There are no rich people in prison.

[@Matthew-cn9zo]

How about someone looking exactly why Fujitsu have very recently been given the contract for the provision of digital ID in the U.K?

[@A190xx]

I suspect she could be charged for perverting the course of justice, which carries a maximum lifetime sentence and fine. Perhaps a few years in jail and a fine sufficient for her to understand the pain she allowed others to endure would be fitting?

[@bobwastaken3934]

A stiff prison sentence is required here

[@silentwitness247]

Why is this woman still walking around, free? One can only guess she has a secret file with incriminating evidence that implicates people in higher circles? 😮

[@simonthomas2115]

These scumbags will join ranks to make sure no one is held to account.

[@Boards-dont-hit-back]

People died because of her. Peoples lives were ruined because of her...... 20 years in jail..... minimum

[@garyh1572]

Corruption permeates throughout UK life . Public Sector and Private Sector.

[@Peter-oz8ec]

You’re bang on right.

[@razachaswills5076]

It’s very obvious that amounts of money were changed and the PO told repeated lies saying you’re the only one whose figures are wrong. Many people paid to save themselves being imprisoned. But nothing has revealed where the money, wrongly extracted from the PO branch managers finished up. I cannot believe it remained in the main PO account. Normally when money is syphoned away like this, it goes into someone’s pocket for personal gain. It benefit’s a small group of robbers only. For me, most important question is who personally benefited from this? Where did the money extracted from the managers finish up. Surely it must be the small group of top executives who persecuted the local managers. No one would drive people to commit suicide unless they benefitted in some way. It’s a real swamp of deceit already, but many questions still need to be answered.

[@stephengodden6796]

Nothing less than prison sentences for Paula Vennels and the people who brought forward all of the prosecutions of the sub post office managers

[@rushyboy]

I would like to know where the missing money actually went? It's all being put down as a computer error, but if that was the case the money would eventually appear somewhere in the system. So where is it?

[@davidhirst7227]

It all finally made it's way into the Post Office profit and loss account where it was used for bonuses for Paula Vennels and the other top dogs. An absolute abomination. Vile people, the lot of them.

[@josephinedewar4469]

In someone's pocket?

[@josephinedewar4469]

We need reflect very seriously on the state our society and who we elect as our Leaders, when MPs lie, behave appalingly, party away happily during Covid; when officials in Corporate Companies bloat out on fat bonuses, cover up mismanagament, create scandals as in the Post Office tragedy, then society is going wrong. If we elect low grade governance can we expect justice, right dealings, fair play? Perhaps we need to return to those values mocked as " old- fashioned" "out- dated" " religious guff" ? Values like truth, honesty, justice, righteousness, generosity, kindness are needed. The good old Bible has a lot of wisdom in it. A little glance at Proverbs or the Ten Commandments might be a useful starter, because the way we seem to be going is not the path of wisdom, but certainly the path of folly.