Chris Webber's beef with Don Nelson was a power struggle that ruined the Warriors

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@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 4 жыл бұрын
When I hear the name “Don Nelson” all I can think about is how this guy is somewhere in Hawaii right now spending his retirement getting high as a kite on a weed farm
@thedistantprinceinyouremai6345
@thedistantprinceinyouremai6345 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like the life
@jfayiii
@jfayiii 4 жыл бұрын
1997 Mtw seen that, that’s a real lifestyle
@chrissams6230
@chrissams6230 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful life
@donny2700
@donny2700 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I think Nelly has the right idea about retirement.
@dirkdilangalang1910
@dirkdilangalang1910 4 жыл бұрын
well the last time i saw him he was with Steve Nash during his HoF Speech, and he look like another Boss in the next John Wick movie,
@TheGWII
@TheGWII 4 жыл бұрын
This might be the best sports channel on KZbin. These mini documentaries are outstanding..
@PuchuKt
@PuchuKt 4 жыл бұрын
Nelson: oh hey the guy we traded our future for has an opt out clause? Lets make his life miserable so he leaves. Genius move donnie
@ericthomas917
@ericthomas917 4 жыл бұрын
Nelson always had an big ego
@stephentrotter1653
@stephentrotter1653 3 жыл бұрын
They all have it the coaches I mean
@dbreiden83080
@dbreiden83080 2 жыл бұрын
Today the Org fires Nelson instantly and kisses up to Webber. How does Nelson justify giving up all that for Webber, than NOT really playing him correctly?
@davehua4293
@davehua4293 2 жыл бұрын
Always wondering how C-Webb left GSW after 1 year. Wowww a deal with a opt out clause after a season .
@andu1854
@andu1854 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbreiden83080 a good owner would have seen that Nelson basically had a second round ceiling with all of his teams, because he never pushed defense, and Nelson even told them to fire him and keep Webber & I wish they had, just another example why chris Cohen was the worst owner of all time, clueless and stupid and he had no clue how to run a franchise and the only two good moves he ever did was not messing up the Curry pick and selling the team
@EdmacZ
@EdmacZ 4 жыл бұрын
And I was in the middle of watching Webber’s beef history with Jalen Rose.
@jbug1979
@jbug1979 4 жыл бұрын
This beef reminded me that I want to see the Latrell Sprewell / PJ Carlesimo choking incident / beef.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@jbug1979 True
@chrissams6230
@chrissams6230 4 жыл бұрын
jbugg Big FACTS I wanna hear all the details I was a kid when that went down and I’m 35...
@Abeja1225
@Abeja1225 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched the King's Collapse.
@bigdee77
@bigdee77 4 жыл бұрын
Seems Webber has beef with more than a few people/organizations...
@Ash-vy7hd
@Ash-vy7hd 4 жыл бұрын
What a great Sunday, nothing like some beef in the morning. Wish us luck here in New Orleans with the double hurricane!
@drby0788
@drby0788 4 жыл бұрын
You guys have some bad luck down there man. Praying for you guys
@itsREALTALKTV
@itsREALTALKTV 4 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Ash-vy7hd
@Ash-vy7hd 4 жыл бұрын
drby0788 appreciate you broski 🙏🏽
@darrenaning930
@darrenaning930 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck bro 🙏🏿🙏🏿 praying theres Minimal or damage and everybody’s safe
@Ash-vy7hd
@Ash-vy7hd 4 жыл бұрын
Darren Aning that’s love bro 💪🏽
@superintelligentapefromthe121
@superintelligentapefromthe121 4 жыл бұрын
D'Antoni gets all the credit, but small ball doesn't happen without Nellie......
@chrisuncleahmad666
@chrisuncleahmad666 4 жыл бұрын
Nellie was ahead of his time, but the NBA in his era was mostly based on centers and Winning with TallBall. Smallball back then was a gimmick and the NBA was basically a big man/front court league
@ShengYu1995
@ShengYu1995 4 жыл бұрын
Nellie never found success. The warriors were 7th seed at best during those years. He didnt revolutionalize anything. D'Antoni actually lead his teams from lottery to #1 seed. Thats diff impact
@superintelligentapefromthe121
@superintelligentapefromthe121 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShengYu1995 Nellie also coached the Bucks and the Mavs, who were both successful.
@georgewagner2352
@georgewagner2352 4 жыл бұрын
Small ball started with Red Auerbach, who Nellie played for. Russell was not a back to the basket center. EVERY SINGLE other center in the league was. Russell was not even the third option on offense. EVERY SINGLE other center in the league was the first or second option. Red and Russell let Sam Jones, Cousy, Havlicek, Nellie, Ramsey, and Heinsohn do all the scoring, and mostly from the perimeter. Yes, Nellie, D'Antoni and others expanded on it and of course today that' all they do. Red and Nellie used it to be different and because other teams weren’t used to defending it. Today it’s used because the centers (actually all the players) are SOFT and have zero post up skills, also because almost every player in the league just wants to shoot threes all game. It’s not original, creative or hard to defend because every team in the league is doing it. It's boring and unimaginative. In addition, due to the lack of physical defense, all small players can thrive now.
@ShengYu1995
@ShengYu1995 4 жыл бұрын
@@superintelligentapefromthe121 You dumbass, clearly I was talking about the Warriors given that the original post is about Warriors small ball in the 90s. Yes he had success with Mavs and Bucks but he didnt run small ball.
@aldotheraider2471
@aldotheraider2471 4 жыл бұрын
Beefs History: Knicks vs Bulls in 90’s, Phil Jackson vs Jerry Krause Shaq vs Kobe Michael Jordan vs Jerry Krause Kevin Garnett vs Ray Allen Detroit Pistons vs Indiana Pacers in Early 2000’s
@anthonyarena2889
@anthonyarena2889 4 жыл бұрын
They have KG And Allen along with Shaq and Kobe. But love the bulls idea
@aldotheraider2471
@aldotheraider2471 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Arena I like Pistons vs Pacers in the Early 2000’s I think that one would be good and also Knicks vs Bulls in the 90’s
@sicilianjoe
@sicilianjoe 4 жыл бұрын
Beef History: Jordan vs Krause *Produced, written, and approved by Team Jordan
@ImcognitoDre
@ImcognitoDre 4 жыл бұрын
Beef History Marge Schott vs MLB
@quince8355
@quince8355 4 жыл бұрын
Aldo The Raider shaq vs Kobe would be amazing
@davidg3183
@davidg3183 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all should make a beef history between Paul George and the playoffs
@charlesconner9044
@charlesconner9044 4 жыл бұрын
Playoff P= Pandemic P
@roncolem4558
@roncolem4558 4 жыл бұрын
Your wrong but so right😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@sostdm617
@sostdm617 4 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😅
@lendellroberson5602
@lendellroberson5602 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@chrisdadrilla
@chrisdadrilla 4 жыл бұрын
TheTot Process Let’s see how long he can put up 25+ ppg in the playoffs then we’ll changed our thoughts on Pandemic P.
@christopherliang6879
@christopherliang6879 3 жыл бұрын
Penny Hardaway and 3 picks and then you give him an opt-out after one season. Genius management right there
@gjslaughter
@gjslaughter 4 жыл бұрын
As a warriors fan this brings up painful memories. That 12 year playoffs drought seemed like forever.
@75aces97
@75aces97 3 жыл бұрын
GSW did almost everything wrong from 1994-2003, and it was a rough stretch of years, but eventually they were the model franchise. Which shows to go ya that as bad as a team might be now, or has been in recent years, doesn't mean they will be forever.
@madrich3050
@madrich3050 6 ай бұрын
that was torment. webber to goog to donyell within 6 months. Owens to Seikaly to garbage Felton Spencer within 1 year. practically gave away Tim Hardaway , Latrell sprewell for scrubs. got Jamison, only to trade that cornerstone away and build around a role player Dunleavy Jr. Warriors fans were miserable during the We Suck Era.
@allclassallthetime4739
@allclassallthetime4739 3 ай бұрын
I thought that GS was going to be a dynasty, finals every year against Orlando. Turned out it was doomed from the start. I didn’t hear all this before.
@itstaemonson
@itstaemonson 4 жыл бұрын
“Apparently the third pick sucks”. Michael Jordan: “ok fine”
@jxytheone279
@jxytheone279 4 жыл бұрын
Also MJ: I took offense to that
@Firebert
@Firebert 4 жыл бұрын
Luka: "ok fine"
@jpmnky
@jpmnky 4 жыл бұрын
It's the SECOND pick that always sucks. The only exceptions are when the first picks are busts. Usually anyway. There's actually a good Andy Hoops or Mike Korzemba video about this very subject.
@RetepAdam
@RetepAdam 4 жыл бұрын
Shawn Bradley: “ok f-well, yeah, okay.”
@Sai4651
@Sai4651 4 жыл бұрын
@@jpmnky 2019 draft class may change that trend. Zion & Ja are looking good, as long as Zion can lose some weight, he'll be a star.
@overthemoon8040
@overthemoon8040 4 жыл бұрын
Idea for a collapse: the Michael Vick led Falcons. High point being that NFC championship game in '04. After that though, Vick never again played a playoff game in Atlanta.
@ThatOneDude219
@ThatOneDude219 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when they went up to Green Bay and beat the Packers in the playoffs.
@jpmnky
@jpmnky 4 жыл бұрын
Because he couldn't throw the ball accurately. Ever. And that "just take off and run" got old fast. In Philadelphia he really became a good quarterback.
@Bran-Da-Don
@Bran-Da-Don 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think he would've become a good quarterback in Atlanta had he not got into trouble. On the other hand I think him going to prison made him very dedicated and serious TO become a better quarterback. We'll never know sadly.
@merlininthevoid2889
@merlininthevoid2889 4 жыл бұрын
Collapse: My life after High School
@ThatOneDude219
@ThatOneDude219 4 жыл бұрын
@@merlininthevoid2889 damn. Relatable
@dejiadefuye2047
@dejiadefuye2047 4 жыл бұрын
Don Nelson, Shawn Bradley, Warriors....the Mavs fan in me is having PTSD
@dbag3345
@dbag3345 4 жыл бұрын
Beef History: Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf vs the NBA.
@drphot6050
@drphot6050 4 жыл бұрын
Him and Craig Hodges
@markboston9303
@markboston9303 4 жыл бұрын
Just dooóooooo it!!!
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 4 жыл бұрын
Those who know...KNOW!
@mandu6665
@mandu6665 4 жыл бұрын
That was vs the NBA and silly, ignorant America as well.
@jbug1979
@jbug1979 4 жыл бұрын
This beef reminded me that I want to see the Latrell Sprewell / PJ Carlesimo choking incident / beef. Please consider this an official request!
@redskullz1249
@redskullz1249 4 жыл бұрын
Seconded
@ThatOneDude219
@ThatOneDude219 4 жыл бұрын
Thirded
@Manny-nm8dh
@Manny-nm8dh 4 жыл бұрын
Fourthded
@davidking5559
@davidking5559 4 жыл бұрын
Fifth!!!!
@jbug1979
@jbug1979 4 жыл бұрын
@@Manny-nm8dh you seein' this SB Nation?! 😉
@lukapelevic7651
@lukapelevic7651 4 жыл бұрын
I can say one thing... IT'S ALL SHAWN BRADLEY'S FAULT.
@bradreed8938
@bradreed8938 4 жыл бұрын
I blame the sixers
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 4 жыл бұрын
No
@muhammadbarokah81
@muhammadbarokah81 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Webber, SB Nation’s favorite athlete for content. I mean, he has another beef video and a Collapse
@MrOuchiez
@MrOuchiez 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, and it's beyond boring. There are FAR more intriguing examples of conflict in sports.
@peeeesus
@peeeesus 4 жыл бұрын
I...I loved this though.
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 4 жыл бұрын
MrOuchiez No, he’s the ideal athlete for content
@josephhanicak7922
@josephhanicak7922 3 жыл бұрын
Was Nelson trying to ruin Webber? Those aren't "tough coach" actions, that's harrasment.
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 2 жыл бұрын
If you were dumb enough to think that's what he was trying to do.
@jacobwilliams1223
@jacobwilliams1223 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrOctober44 No it is blatantly what he was doing. Pointing at Webber and saying "this guy has all the money, this guy is the reason we are struggling" is not being a tough coach but making Webber the scapegoat and kicking him between the legs.
@blacknetsmed
@blacknetsmed 2 жыл бұрын
​@Chris P "He didn’t that with the Mavs" It's called living and learning. He was a Coach for 15+ years before he took the Mavs job; he was known excessive hard ass. Booster situation is nothing about nothing. Especially when looking at how idiotic those NCAA are.
@McKildafor
@McKildafor 3 жыл бұрын
A big we well done to to Clara! That was fantastically researched and put together. The narration was top notch👌
@Guccibear100
@Guccibear100 4 жыл бұрын
Great story, I've never really been into the NBA and sadly I grew up in the 90s and missed some of the greatest. This channel is great for catching up on all things sports.
@42tribes
@42tribes 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you just don't cope with Webber when you are already coaching half Drunk Chris Mullin and half crazy Latrell Sprewell.
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Mullin was clean by then.
@jswin2084
@jswin2084 3 жыл бұрын
Because a rookie usually doesn’t think he should be the one calling the shots. Webber thought this about himself
@42tribes
@42tribes 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoothCriminal12 nypost.com/2015/04/01/mullins-30-years-away-from-st-johns-full-of-twists-and-turns/ Nelson actually helped him clean up. He said when he first arrived as head coach people told him how good Mullin was but he was an alcoholic and overweight. Shows how good Mullin was and how stiff 80s basketball was.
@jazzbassoonpaul
@jazzbassoonpaul 4 жыл бұрын
The Golden State Warriors could have an entire channel devoted to misery due to how many awful draft picks they had, awful seasons, awful injuries, awful coach hires, awful hopeless vibe. It’s a miracle that it all got turned around-now they are a model franchise. Truly amazing from a fan since 1973.
@jonjonbailey4314
@jonjonbailey4314 2 жыл бұрын
Me since Run TMC Oaktown n Tha house!!
@BrandonYoungMusic
@BrandonYoungMusic 2 жыл бұрын
And then they drafted Steph, Klay and Dray and won 3 chips in 5 yrs
@andu1854
@andu1854 2 жыл бұрын
It was Chris Cohen sucking & hitting incompetent morons to run franchise, also I hated the Joe Smith pick, I don’t like it when people say he was awesome in college But you couldn’t name one memorable moment (unless you think Sweet 16 is good enough), Garnett or even Rasheed Wallace was the correct Pick, Joe Smith should have been a second round pick for how mediocre he was (joy 12 points a game and someone Minn was stupid enough to try to pay under the table
@blancovich
@blancovich 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!!! When they fired Mark Jackson, I thought they were crazy… and then Steve Kerr…
@MrZahsome
@MrZahsome Жыл бұрын
​@@BrandonYoungMusicThat totally erases how bad they were in the past right? Oh since we're talking about the present, they're a mediocre team right now too.
@Booster37
@Booster37 4 жыл бұрын
I don't put the blame on Webber. The franchise traded up for a player they didn't really want when they didn't really have the cap space and you're going to throw the rookie under the bus for the others not getting their bread? That's a low blow.
@pac12shorts90
@pac12shorts90 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@bryanttisdale2446
@bryanttisdale2446 4 жыл бұрын
Preach! You Ruin Rookies when you blame them for losing seasons or count on them to be the savior .💯
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
Facts indeed
@andu1854
@andu1854 2 жыл бұрын
They should have just been happy with z penny Hardaway and been done with it and Penny would have fit in nicely to the offense as someone who can run a fast paced offense
@tylerriley2587
@tylerriley2587 2 жыл бұрын
And then Shouting, "why did we draft you?" in front of fans that's a no-no
@beezy22
@beezy22 4 жыл бұрын
When Chris Webber was drafted by Orlando and then traded to Golden State in the 1993 NBA Draft, I’m thinking that team is gonna be heading toward greatness but after Webber and Nelson feuded in Golden state, Golden state wasn’t the same for years until Baron Davis Stephen Jackson Matt Barnes Don Nelson etc got the warriors back to the playoffs in 2007...
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 4 жыл бұрын
Drafted by Orlando
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Webber is the most underrated player of all time.
@beezy22
@beezy22 4 жыл бұрын
Melvyn Singleton my bad Webber was drafted by Orlando and traded to golden state...
@ibefullofme
@ibefullofme 4 жыл бұрын
Idk if taking money was that big of a mistake, other guys did, those guys deserve the money, but he shouldn't have lied about it.
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 4 жыл бұрын
Why exactly did he deserve the money? Did he not make millions playing in the NBA?
@konkola3295
@konkola3295 4 жыл бұрын
@@roboninja3194 He wasn't in the NBA when he got that money...
@Ofallthings089
@Ofallthings089 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I think college players should be getting paid anyway. So I’m not bothered by it.
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. If Webber had come clean immediately like Jalen Rose had, nobody would be talking about it now.
@jcaliberty8288
@jcaliberty8288 4 жыл бұрын
@@SmoothCriminal12 true
@KoolaySmoov
@KoolaySmoov 4 жыл бұрын
Her voice gets me thru work i swear she is amazing with her narration
@FadeAwayHov
@FadeAwayHov 4 жыл бұрын
Shaq told the Orlando front office to draft penny
@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw
@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw 4 жыл бұрын
Because of the movie
@Bran-Da-Don
@Bran-Da-Don 4 жыл бұрын
To this day I can't understand how the Magic allowed Shaq to get away. That set them back 15 years.
@FadeAwayHov
@FadeAwayHov 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bran-Da-Don they didn't bring in the right vets Horace grant cared more about beating the bulls than winning another ring and when you don't have the right vets around Young SUPER stars it will always go bad, but karma Is crazy cause Kobe got Shaq shipped out to Miami for the same reasons why Shaq left Orlando
@Buttington_Headerson
@Buttington_Headerson 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bran-Da-Don it didn't set them back 15 years. They were contenders again by 2008. What really set them back was the grant hill signing; they wouldve been contenders by 2001 if he were healthy alongside McGrady. now of course the terrible management since Dwight's departure.
@Bran-Da-Don
@Bran-Da-Don 4 жыл бұрын
@@Buttington_Headerson I remember that. They were supposed to get Duncan as well I believe but he backed out at the last minute. That would've been the first superteam.
@dbreiden83080
@dbreiden83080 2 жыл бұрын
This is 1 of the reasons why owners started favoring players over coaches.. That coach better make the players happy and win.. In todays game ownership fires Nelly mid-season of Webbers rookie deal, and consults with Webber on the new coach..
@vukzdravkovic9462
@vukzdravkovic9462 4 жыл бұрын
I think a great team to cover in your collapse series is the 2012-present orlando magic, and how the decisions they made set them back quite a lot(oladipo for ibaka and stuff like that)
@withalittlehelpfrom3
@withalittlehelpfrom3 Жыл бұрын
Hey, you got your wish!
@demaszstyo9644
@demaszstyo9644 4 жыл бұрын
Collapse idea: Atlanta Hawks 2015 after they reached East Finals
@davemathew
@davemathew 4 жыл бұрын
U have 2 rise b4 a collapse...
@marcusmcgraw3519
@marcusmcgraw3519 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Mathew lol yup. Collapse is usually reserved for teams that actually went somewhere
@paperhag
@paperhag 4 жыл бұрын
Why? Everyone knows Mike Buttholder is just a regular season coach.
@LanceVance81
@LanceVance81 4 жыл бұрын
"Collapse" should be reserved for great teams. Hawks had a great record that year but the team was nothing special. They wouldve been swept in the 1st round by most the teams in the West that year.
@DP_1605
@DP_1605 4 жыл бұрын
@brad monaghan Again most people didn't really see them as title contenders. And they didn't really collapse they went in a new direction after years of being a decent playoff team by letting some of their key players go.
@chrisuncleahmad666
@chrisuncleahmad666 4 жыл бұрын
Reminder idea: Robert Horry Game 5 2005 NBA Finals
@FingeringThings
@FingeringThings 4 жыл бұрын
If Webber balled out like he was suppose to, he and Sprewell could've went far in 1994
@MrHam-sk3kr
@MrHam-sk3kr 4 жыл бұрын
Why do I see your comments on literally every single video I watch
@hesnotquitedead
@hesnotquitedead 4 жыл бұрын
This Is My Username He’s trying to be the next Justin Y.
@marcusmcgraw3519
@marcusmcgraw3519 4 жыл бұрын
He did ball out, his coach just ruined it for them
@LanceVance81
@LanceVance81 4 жыл бұрын
Far to the 2nd round but nothing past that. The West was deep back then just like today.
@Manny-nm8dh
@Manny-nm8dh 4 жыл бұрын
@@LanceVance81 I don't see them getting past Utah, Houston or Seattle back then.
@tainoman1998
@tainoman1998 4 жыл бұрын
I love hearing about other teams having problems, cause it makes me feel like there's actually hope for New York
@versatillion15
@versatillion15 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, no hope. Unless you mean the Yankees
@jasonallen3678
@jasonallen3678 2 жыл бұрын
😭
@andu1854
@andu1854 2 жыл бұрын
As a warriors fan, getting rid of an incompetent owner was the key to the franchise turning, too bad your teams owner is a complete moron who is worst than Cohen
@brianlara6451
@brianlara6451 2 жыл бұрын
For real g. The dubs except for two seasons were horrible for 30 seasons up until 2010 or so. After Barry the 80’s 90’s and 2000’s the dubs were bad.
@mikecookboxing
@mikecookboxing 3 жыл бұрын
Roy Jones vs Antonio Tarver or Bernard Hopkins beef history please! Love this channel & beef history!
@mg19cal
@mg19cal 4 жыл бұрын
Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiit, after all this, I'm surprised Webber didn't go off on Nellie the way Sprewell did Carlesimo
@alexanderwright8275
@alexanderwright8275 4 жыл бұрын
my high school coach got really made at us when we would put our hands on our knees to catch our breath because it's bad for airflow or whatever. Apparently that is what Webber did all the time and our coach would tell us to quite doing the chris webber and would make us run more if we did
@DiscoHank
@DiscoHank 4 жыл бұрын
The most hurtful moment in my time as a Warriors fan, the Mitch Richmond trade was close but we still went to the playoffs after that trade, but this just sent the organization into a tailspin. Sprewells choke out of Carlisimo followed.
@andu1854
@andu1854 2 жыл бұрын
I hated that year and Mitch was my favorite player during this time and they traded him for Billy Owens, barf, they guy was a mediocre in college and mediocre in the pros
@AwkoTwaco
@AwkoTwaco 4 жыл бұрын
Need that scottie pippen/jordan vs isiah thomas beef
@dbag3345
@dbag3345 4 жыл бұрын
Have you not seen the last dance?
@BubbaMcCheese
@BubbaMcCheese 4 жыл бұрын
That '95 Warriors team will always be a great "what if?"
@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw
@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed... there were the kings before Sacramento in 2000... Timmy, Mully, Spree, C-Webb, Ronny.... and Ricky Pierce as sixth man
@ja8ames
@ja8ames 4 ай бұрын
@@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw Yeah, I didn't realize that they'd picked up Ronny. That's even more of a dream lineup. What a shame.
@tylerriley2587
@tylerriley2587 3 жыл бұрын
In Conclusion: Don Nelson was in it for himself
@JC-11111
@JC-11111 3 жыл бұрын
C Webb was a beast at Sacramento. NBA Live 05 was a hell of a game with them. Just wish my best friend, Jeremy Dewayne Owens, were still here to see how it ended. Lost him in '06 to complications from Sickle Cell disease. Miss you, my brother. Every day 🙏❤️😥
@GhostR8r
@GhostR8r 4 жыл бұрын
More great work, thank you! People think Warrior fans just popped up in the last 6 years...the Webber/Hardaway/Sprewell trades still hurt.
@DanButton89
@DanButton89 4 жыл бұрын
With the college career and hype behind Webber, I won't suprised Shaq didn't want him in Orlando as Webber might show him up or at least try to make the team revolve around him which Shaq didn't want either way. Penny complimented Shaq's game and was happy to be the Robin to Shaq's Batman. Shaq has said on a number of occasions that he wanted 28ppg first then was happy for the rest of the team to "get theirs". I can't imagine Webbers ego would of been happy with that.
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 4 жыл бұрын
And then Shaq gets pissy that Penny is getting more attention and leaves him for Kobe... Feel sorry for Penny.
@rollinstonemoula9689
@rollinstonemoula9689 2 жыл бұрын
They both played on tha low block.. Tha Magic needed a PG
@jeremymccommons7741
@jeremymccommons7741 4 жыл бұрын
Ideas! Rewinder: ‘04 ALCS game 4 or 5 Collapse: ‘08 Phillies
@Bobbles2001
@Bobbles2001 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t watch basketball, or even know the rules, but this series is so good ☺️
@michaelauberry1564
@michaelauberry1564 4 жыл бұрын
You absolutely should start, especially now.
@contato424
@contato424 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah defo start. So many intense games now!
@repliczz
@repliczz 3 жыл бұрын
I really like hearing Clara's voice, so soothing. keep it up!
@johnl.7754
@johnl.7754 4 жыл бұрын
Well it still better then drafting Bradley:-)
@briankrosky3567
@briankrosky3567 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch one of these in fifteen years about the 2017-2020 76ers.
@tj9364
@tj9364 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@rude5059
@rude5059 4 жыл бұрын
Clara Morris has been doing an outstanding job with these beef histories. Keep it up!
@kalikid3198
@kalikid3198 4 жыл бұрын
What would have happened if they chose Webber over nelly?
@GTR24
@GTR24 4 жыл бұрын
we would have missed out on that beautiful King's basketball
@apollosroman8784
@apollosroman8784 4 жыл бұрын
He's traded from GS and they dont make the playoffs for over a decade after. Brings the lowly Bullet/Wizards to the playoffs and comes close to finishing the Jordan Bulls (twice, i think) then makes the Kings into a title contender. Webber is underrated.
@najachero1384
@najachero1384 4 жыл бұрын
The Bullets played the Bulls once in the play offs and got swept in the first round. Just saying.
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 4 жыл бұрын
JORDAN = Drop 55 points on Chris Webber.
@hc9372
@hc9372 4 жыл бұрын
Clara Morris is one of my favorite people to listen to, to talk about sports. She needs a primetime sports talk show on ESPN or something haha
@pac12shorts90
@pac12shorts90 4 жыл бұрын
Rewinder idea: Andy Dalton pass to break the Bills playoff drought
@jaxonmontgomery1168
@jaxonmontgomery1168 4 жыл бұрын
And the relationship between the bengals and bills afterwards. It is a fun game to watch every year because they love eachother and they give eachother players
@pac12shorts90
@pac12shorts90 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaxonmontgomery1168 Yeah
@Zilla702Killa
@Zilla702Killa 4 жыл бұрын
Pass for the 2nd video in a roll.
@charlesconner9044
@charlesconner9044 4 жыл бұрын
As a Ravens fan...please god no
@abryan7969
@abryan7969 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid love them
@SportsSpeak73
@SportsSpeak73 4 жыл бұрын
Shawn Bradley or Chris Webber. In hindsight (actually, even in real time) that comparison seems absurd
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
Facts sheesh
@imightbebiased9311
@imightbebiased9311 4 жыл бұрын
But seriously, can you imagine Webber and Shaq in Orlando? I think that might have actually changed the course of basketball history.
@sbaugous
@sbaugous 4 жыл бұрын
@@imightbebiased9311 maybe phil jackson doesn't get a 3rd three peat?
@mopjames464
@mopjames464 4 жыл бұрын
Nah Shaq would've left regardless
@freeflare6338
@freeflare6338 4 жыл бұрын
Bradley was a pretty decent center for quite some time. And the Warriors wanted a center. Might have worked out better for them.
@TheGlyde18
@TheGlyde18 4 жыл бұрын
You can practically hear her have an evil smile at 5:12
@ommurg5059
@ommurg5059 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple bot, I go to new videos and say "I'm a simple man, I see X, I click."
@quince8355
@quince8355 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@tj9364
@tj9364 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Seasaltvault
@Seasaltvault 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 4 жыл бұрын
What's kind of ironic is that both Webber and Nelson were probably more alike than they were different. Both were 2 of the most talented ever in there respective field. Both won at some point wherever they went though never a championship (Webber and the kings should have and probably would have in 02 but thats another conversation) and both had complicated personalities. With that said, that owner made a historic mistake. I would have Kept Webb and got rid of Nelson.
@iamshawnwilliam
@iamshawnwilliam 4 жыл бұрын
I was a ball boy for the warriors back then & Nellie was trash. The GM sided with a .500 coach over a potential Hall of Famer. Spree & Webber had a stronger future than Timmy & Nellie.
@ItsDraag
@ItsDraag 4 жыл бұрын
I do miss Seth doing this but great video
@calvinjluther
@calvinjluther 4 жыл бұрын
Don Nelson, as I recall, owns Iowa's largest wildlife preserve.
@DG-BB
@DG-BB 3 жыл бұрын
Clara Morris is the best at writing and reading these "Beef" scripts.
@chrisvas65
@chrisvas65 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice Webber talks toooooo damn much on 2k
@TheOnlyMJS
@TheOnlyMJS 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, Yes. On NBA 2K17. The guy legit went off topic and I was like this game is too damn accurate. Like i could not care less so its TOO REAL. 😂😂😂
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
Great commentary really
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not as bad as Bill Simmons rambling tangents
@chrisvas65
@chrisvas65 3 жыл бұрын
@@Riles3152 haha true
@MatthewDoel32
@MatthewDoel32 4 жыл бұрын
Beef History ideas: Bobby Knight vs Indiana Joe Gomez vs Raheem Sterling 29 MLB teams vs Rob Manfred and the Houston Asterisks
@broaddusmarines
@broaddusmarines 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Doel: I’m an IU fan to the core and I’m really torn about him. Bobby Knight probably has the greatest basketball mind to ever walk the planet. He basically won championships with Isiah Thomas and a bunch of midwestern farmboys. That being said, he was/is a miserable human being, a narcissist, and a bully. He probably knows it too. His comment about “if you’re getting raped, you might as well lay back and enjoy it” should have gotten him fired on the spot. IU tolerated his BS because he was still hanging National Championship and Big Ten Championship banners and he had a cult-like following in the state of Indiana. But yeah, in retrospect, Bobby Knight should have been fired about ten years before he actually was. In the end, both Bobby Knight as well as Indiana University lost.
@bruinsfan808
@bruinsfan808 4 жыл бұрын
You all should rewind the Men's 4x100 Freestyle Relay from the 2008 Olympics. One of the biggest comebacks ever.
@rogerdodger9244
@rogerdodger9244 4 жыл бұрын
Id love to see that
@bobsiyt6548
@bobsiyt6548 4 ай бұрын
This is well done and explains it perfectly! There’s nothing else on KZbin about this story. I can understand why Webber wanted out. And Nelson was a great coach (and GM), but knowing he had that opt out, he should have laid off for that season - definitely a mistake on Nelson’s part. They both deserve blame here. They had a good thing going and were loaded with talent. I’m positive they both reflect on this and both wish they handled things differently. Ironic that Webber ended his career in Golden State - with Nelson as his coach; too little too late.
@ChicagoMadePunk09
@ChicagoMadePunk09 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Webber, man. Dude could absolutely not catch a break
@natecruz7114
@natecruz7114 4 жыл бұрын
Did it to himself honestly. Terrible personality
@gobot581
@gobot581 4 жыл бұрын
Nate Cruz some of the blame but treating the future of your franchise like that just isn’t acceptable he had a personal grudge at a point if it’s just criticizing my game it’s ok you start talking about my pockets we are both men at that point it’s not player coach
@MF-jy2ve
@MF-jy2ve 4 жыл бұрын
Here we go!
@elliotthowarth6718
@elliotthowarth6718 4 жыл бұрын
We want Beef History: the NY Knicks vs the NBA Draft Lottery
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
@MrSpeed-lt8gr 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to include the freezer that held the lottery envelope so it was ice cold when Stern grabbed it!
@upabittoolate
@upabittoolate 3 жыл бұрын
What's beef? Ben Simmons against his own jumpshot
@justalittlebitmo
@justalittlebitmo 4 жыл бұрын
I love when Clara does these. So good.
@johnstjohn1987
@johnstjohn1987 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get a Aaron Rodgers vs Mike McCarthy Beef episode? Been asking for months!
@overthemoon8040
@overthemoon8040 4 жыл бұрын
There is still a chance for more to develop here, I'd think it's too soon to make a video!
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 4 жыл бұрын
Too soon
@bye9360
@bye9360 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Rodgers vs Olivia Nunn!!
@garfieldburke2820
@garfieldburke2820 4 жыл бұрын
Do a beef history with latrell sprewell and pj carlsimo
@JJ-iq5cv
@JJ-iq5cv 2 жыл бұрын
As a Warriors fan, I never forgave Nelson. This video downplayed how huge Webber was in college - the leader of the Fab Five
@aaronst.pierre3080
@aaronst.pierre3080 2 жыл бұрын
Who lost them the title because he lacked in-game awareness.
@andu1854
@andu1854 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronst.pierre3080 except you can see his teammates yelling at him to call a time out and I also blame Steve Fisher for not being better prepared to beat a team they were more talented than (
@1neOfN0ne
@1neOfN0ne 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope you one day make a beef history with Ben Simmons and Jump Shots. Cause here in Philly, we've been ripping our hair out for years trying to understand why and/or how those two have been avoiding each other on the court for this long
@mario2montano
@mario2montano 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do AL DAVIS vs MARCUS ALLEN
@tj9364
@tj9364 4 жыл бұрын
Yes good idea
@goblue193
@goblue193 4 жыл бұрын
Webber was the most talented PF I've ever seen. Unfortunately injuries, bad luck, and off court issues hampered his legacy.
@ThatOneDude219
@ThatOneDude219 4 жыл бұрын
Beef History: Randall Simon and the Italian Sausage
@SlipperyGoulet
@SlipperyGoulet 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Great episode selection!!
@thomaspark1356
@thomaspark1356 4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard once that anybody including Don Nelson and the Warriors organization or any organization valuing Shawn Bradley over Chris Webber. Even before Shawn Bradley was deemed a bust, Chris Webber was above him in every draft board across the league. The Warriors having to settle for Chris Webber simply didn't happen under all circumstances.
@gpk724
@gpk724 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused about that myself. If the Warriors/Nelson wanted Bradley so badly, why didn’t they just take him/have the Magic take him #1? The only thing stopping them from getting Bradley was the Sixers at #2 and they just leapfrogged them. It doesn’t make any sense unless they valued Webber more than Bradley.
@sammycampbell1654
@sammycampbell1654 3 жыл бұрын
Nelson was head over heels for Bradley. One of his first moves after coming to Dallas was trading for him (I think it was the Mashburn trade?).... he was hell bent on building around Bradley, and Bradley finally breaking through and being an elite center. Shawn Bradley owes Don Nelson a lot. Without Nelson's man crush, Bradley is out of the league after the 96-97 season. Instead he played 8 more years, mostly because Nelson convinced Cuban that "this is the big man we need" like Obi Wan Kenobi. The Mavs were stuck with Bradley and an albatross of a salary bigger than the Morman big man.
@sammycampbell1654
@sammycampbell1654 3 жыл бұрын
@@gpk724 Orlando wouldn't trade the pick. Trade didn't go down till after Philly had already taken Bradley at 2 and the Warriors were already on the clock. The real question is, with Bradley off the board, why did Nelson give up Penny (pick 3) and 3 more future first rounders for Webber?
@andu1854
@andu1854 2 жыл бұрын
Shawn Bradley should have never been taken in first round, he was nothing special at BYU, and he was built like Chet, only without much skill besides blocking shots and being on way too many posters being dunked on, and being probably the most un-fun teammate… I never got why teams thought that beam pole was anything special and he would have not fit into the Warriors fast paced offense as he also had not athleticism
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 19 күн бұрын
​​@@sammycampbell1654It was actually the Jim Jackson trade that landed them Shawn Bradley. Mashburn got traded for Kurt Thomas.
@thebrowncrew
@thebrowncrew 2 жыл бұрын
More Clara Morris!
@oliverdennis3115
@oliverdennis3115 4 жыл бұрын
I just saw a hornets fan in the comments, I’m so sorry for the existence of your relationship with the Charlotte Hornets.
@johnplamann726
@johnplamann726 4 жыл бұрын
Great content as always
@keithharper1470
@keithharper1470 4 жыл бұрын
Nelson was a snake with those moves Wrong coach got choked
@hunterwade9030
@hunterwade9030 3 жыл бұрын
How so
@teen_laqueefa
@teen_laqueefa 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao Spree needs to see this
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 4 жыл бұрын
Where are all the original hosts? Feel like this woman does every video now
@alekhine80
@alekhine80 4 жыл бұрын
a nice video but a very minor beef...
@loudpackangel1014
@loudpackangel1014 4 жыл бұрын
Do khabib vs Connor mcgregor beef history
@WatchMilesTV
@WatchMilesTV 4 жыл бұрын
I think C-Webb has to be the leader in amount of SB Nation videos he's been in.
@pandoralover21
@pandoralover21 4 жыл бұрын
Could we get a rewinder of the 91 World Series?!
@moseshanon7060
@moseshanon7060 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know where we can listen to the background music?
@aablubleble
@aablubleble 4 жыл бұрын
Beef history: Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart
@dbag3345
@dbag3345 4 жыл бұрын
Perfecto
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@RetepAdam
@RetepAdam 4 жыл бұрын
Collapse: WCW
@jcaliberty8288
@jcaliberty8288 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@kincamell2
@kincamell2 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy Ps Much Gratitude
@Yutbr800
@Yutbr800 4 жыл бұрын
Nelson killed it. The Dubs would have made noise if Webber would have stayed. We had a squad. PF-Webber SF- Sprewell SG-Mullin PG-Hardaway
@JonathanJVela
@JonathanJVela 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf. All of these videos are better than anything sports related on KZbin. We gotta get these views up
@theferryman4916
@theferryman4916 4 жыл бұрын
Narrated by Smurfette....
@dynad00d15
@dynad00d15 4 жыл бұрын
For a moment, i had to check the title again because Webber's story sounded like PK Subban.. lol
@SanFranFan30
@SanFranFan30 4 жыл бұрын
Well hey it inadvertently resulted in the Steph Curry Warriors dynasty
@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 4 жыл бұрын
always looking on the bright side
@DamTheKid
@DamTheKid 4 жыл бұрын
Can't delete old comment, sry didn't know you were in the special olympics sff. My bad
@SanFranFan30
@SanFranFan30 4 жыл бұрын
@@DamTheKid what are you talking about dude
@DamTheKid
@DamTheKid 4 жыл бұрын
God damnit sff, stop flailing about. You aren't playing in a sandbox you are just rolling about in a pile of your own turds with your eyes closed
@willcasey8662
@willcasey8662 4 жыл бұрын
@@DamTheKid dawg are you good
@ronque23
@ronque23 Жыл бұрын
Webber had some great years with the Kings. Those teams were fun to watch, despite nevr being able to get past the Lakers. But imagine if Don Nelson had just a little bit of chill with that squad. Damn.
@davemathew
@davemathew 4 жыл бұрын
Beef history: Chris Webber vs Tyra Banks.
@tritegent3202
@tritegent3202 4 жыл бұрын
What happened there? Haha
@quanbrooklynkid7776
@quanbrooklynkid7776 4 жыл бұрын
@@tritegent3202 right
@roc2eazy
@roc2eazy 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is 🔥
@Sai4651
@Sai4651 4 жыл бұрын
Or, they could have drafted Vin Baker, an All-Star PF/C who was in the same draft and prevented this from happening. But, hindsight is 20/20
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