How the Buccaneers fell apart after dominating the 2002 Super Bowl | Collapse

[@SecretBaseSBN]

Heyoooo thanks for watching episode one of "Collapse," wanted to let you know we'll have a new episode of this next Wednesday, as well as the Wednesday after that, and the Wednesday after that. From there, if we're still alive we'll probably keep making it but idk I'm not Nostradamus

[@datrandompanda]

I came to you guys to make me feel happy, not sad XD Atleast I always have 2002.

[@lildubuoy]

New series.......i like it!

[@RVN-cz2lu]

Lol

[@yakovgolyadkin]

Future team to do if this takes off: Houston Cougars. 3 straight Final Fours, including back-to-back Championship appearances between 1982-84, followed by 33 years with zero tournament wins and only 4 appearances.

[@poloregal]

SB Nation new episodes twice a week please

[@nicholaskling2425]

So Gruden traded the top WRs, got rid of the best defenders and signed aging veterans. Sound familiar Oakland?

[@eightysbaby8798]

Lol. Facts

[@fearlv1rattata]

Be careful Oakland. It's a long road to recovery from Gruden.

[@LaggyMcstutters]

Nicholas Kling i like the trades and the young talent they brought in from the picks.

[@lazym91]

Plus they have him for 8 more years😂

[@2RG_]

You need vets to train the young talent. The raiders are now the 8th youngest team. Give it a few years before you get all wet off of the Raiders being a bad team.

[@samueltschida7402]

Collapse, Beef History, and Rewind might be my favorite series on KZbin

[@jonc2136]

Samuel Tschida hoonigans build break downs are pretty dope if your a car person

[@joeyjung7550]

@jon bois

[@Yahye481]

Rewind is the best one

[@faded2145]

Excuse me good sir, but have you seen Chart Party

[@SirYaliBeats]

What about Days of Our Steelers?

[@MN-xo1cj]

Do the 2008 Phillies and their “perfect” decline from winning the World Series. In order, they went from winning the World Series to losing the WS to losing in the semifinals to losing in the Divisional, to missing the playoffs and finishing 3rd in the division, to finishing 4th in the division, to finishing 5th in the division, to finishing with the worst record in baseball.

[@samilles472]

That would be an interesting series someone else commented about the 2006-2009 years of the Mets which would also be interesting. The NL East got some potential in this series.

[@tycalvert7322]

Uhhhhh... I did not know this happend. That's actually unbelievable.

[@mynochrancher]

It's statistically the perfect collapse.

[@Memorex996]

Not to mention they had a solid line up with a healthy ryan howard, a dynamite rotation with cy young award winning and playoff stud cliff lee, future hof doc halladay, all star roy oswald, and all star cole hamels

[@kman215]

Yep. Amaro kept all the aging vets rather than trading for younger prospects to start rebuilding. It was awful to watch as a Phillies fan

[@MazeDaGr8]

And now the Bucs have Rebuilt & Reclaimed a Super Bowl champion SB should really consider making a series called "Rebuilt" for teams that collapsed then rose again

[@franklee88]

"Rebound" would also be a good title.

[@vimic9507]

@@franklee88 yes yes yes

[@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498]

@@franklee88 "Rebuilt" want to bring them back on sports athletics #SBNation👍👍👍💪

[@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498]

@@vimic9507 i'm ready to be tittle of "Rebulit" want return and revive in sports athletic back #SBNation

[@scottfairbanks759]

I really want to see a "fall and rise" type video for the tampa bay lightning. After posting a regular season record in wins only to get swept in the first round in embarrassment. then to come back the following year and win the cup... it deserves a video.

[@baronobeefdip7092]

Anyone here after the Bucs also blew out the chiefs

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

I just saw this video in my recommended and came to see how quickly I could find a comment like this. Fourth one down, not even sorting from newest. Damn.

[@jacobendicott7208]

Yessir bucs back on top where they should be, sad how long it took after Gruden left us in shambles but ✌️🏆

[@sonicthehedgehoggamingfan8028]

Yes, I'm here. I'm happy that the Tampa Bay Buccs won over the KC Cheifs

[@koala3088]

@@jacobendicott7208 it's so nice to see our team finally doing great again. It's such a shame it took so long because we've had some decent teams since then but we never had good enough QB to get us there, let's be honest, the main reason we won the first superbowl was because of our defense and O-line, Brad Johnson was a mediocre quarterback at best but we had a good O-line and a great defense an any mediocre quarterback should be able to do good with a little extra time throw and a defense that puts points on the board when they can't lol

[@LeBronShane]

RUDER

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

The Chicago Bulls being dismantled after their second threepeat would be good. Jordan was on his last legs but they didn't have to gut the whole team.

[@brianbeltran7337]

Palace Of Wisdom Go to Dom2k channel he made a vid about it really cool and nice explaining details.

[@poloregal]

Palace Of Wisdom Jordan knew there would be a lockout

[@billyfraiser6298]

the expression is "last leg" , not "last legs"...... just fyi.

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

@@billyfraiser6298 Thanks for the info. It annoys me when people mess up stuff like that.

[@kvltizt]

Jerry Krause was Jerry Krause

[@Rushie89]

Raiders see this video *Let's give Gruden a bonus*

[@bradquinn4500]

Rushie *Proceeds to give away the 2 best players on the team*

[@jmakrigiannis]

@@bradquinn4500 Mark Davis literally didn't have the money to sign Mack. He wanted 100 mill+ guranteed. So when that happens Mark Davis has to sign a cheque in escrow to the NFL. That cheque would bounce. They got a good haul for him and I think they got a good call for Amari Cooper. I'm just not so sure they're going to be able to turn this draft capital and cap space into success.

[@razkable]

everyone was right...gruden just took dungy's team ..he didnt add anything to them until the beat phillly in the playoffs and the raiders in the bowl..those 2 games were the only time he was useful...they should of kept dungy..he was amazing with the colts....

[@Rushie89]

Raiders fans see this comment *Cry*

[@understandthat9817]

@@Rushie89 He had Peyton Manning

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

That was Dungys team, not Grudens...

[@victorcohen9579]

I think the biggest problem was Gruden didn't evolve the way the league was going. Also, having two future of the franchises turning to bust doesn't help either. I love Dungy, don't get me wrong, but his only SB win was against the worst receiver corp ever by the Patriots in the AFCCG and the Chicago Bears with Grossman as the QB.

[@zj13goat57]

Gruden was brought in for insanit success but if thay kept Dungy out would have taken a few years bit thay would have had more long term success

[@DanHaya72]

Wrong! The defense was Dungy's and Kiffin's, but McKay overhauled the offense that offseason. Keenan McCardell, Joe Jurevicus, Michael Pittman, Ken Dilger and Greg Spires all signed with the Bucs in 2002 and made significant contributions to that championship run.

[@Rahkesh357]

But eaven so, his team also was at SB.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

@@johnathanp6133 Tony would have gotten that team to a Super Bowl as likewise for Gruden as he would have gotten his Raiders there as well because Bill Callahan inherited those reigns from the Gruden. I mean, aren't the Colts' 5 years run under Dungy not a prime example?

[@johncaparulo4800]

Nobody seems to remember Bill Parcells’ role in all of this. The Bucs fired Tony Dungy with the intent to hire Parcells as his replacement. However, the Big Tuna changed his mind at the last minute leaving Tampa Bay without a head coach. Facing embarrassment and significant public criticism, the Buccaneers were desperate to find a new head coach of higher or at least equal caliber to the one they had just fired. That’s why they were ultimately so willing to relinquish draft picks and whatever else they gave the Raiders in exchange for Gruden.

[@cybercrasherstv]

And I mean, that seemed to work... At first If only the bucs just had to play the raiders every game, then they'd be championns

[@wadedevinney9681]

Was this the thing with Hugh Culverhouse? Based on what I've seen, he wasn't being entirely truthful about Parcells agreeing to come to Tampa Bay.

[@finchborat]

@@wadedevinney9681 Culverhouse had long been dead by that point. He died before the '94 season started.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

​@@finchboratNo, he's actually right. Culverhouse had also tried to lure Parcells to Tampa in the early 90s, but Bill opted to go to New England instead.

[@RyanB1987]

Now the Buccaneers are going to the SuperBowl in their own stadium.

[@tevinsherrill5653]

And then they won.

[@yvng_greenbean8019]

And won it

[@Bigtwinkissac209]

and first to do it

[@RyanB1987]

@@Bigtwinkissac209 And then the LA Rams won it in their own stadium the next year.

[@manelponte804]

Love the new series Keep it going

[@CBielski87]

A few suggestions: Chicago Bulls(From Jordan's second retirement till today) Los Angeles Lakers(After the 2010 championship) New York Giants(After the 2011 SB) Denver Broncos(After the 2015 SB, or post Elway '99) Detroit Red Wings '08

[@Andwhatlseeisme]

"Not every championship needs to be followed up by a happy ending." Tell that to Bob Kraft

[@Abandonsoyciety]

No tell that to your team owner and we might see them win more superbowls so you can stop complaining about how the patriots hurt you

[@redrojo4037]

@@Abandonsoyciety that went completely over ur head lol....

[@josephdavis1704]

James Barnett well yea most pats fans are like 25 or younger, cant imagine why

[@briantaylor9701]

That's a very astute observation. They avoided a total collapse by constantly massaging the roster with an occasional release of a... Wait a minute!

[@RobertGarcia-wv8vx]

Kraft will need the money to shush his hookers. Hey, people do have expensive hobbies. Hookers are more fun that paying already rich Tom Brady. Hahaha

[@aHondaaa]

Cadillac Williams...now that's a name I've not heard in a very long time

[@Boostedbakon]

People forget how good he was. Knee injuries ruined him

[@royaltyblessed2454]

@@Boostedbakon facts Kenobi

[@MrGrifter123]

He was very good. I forgot bout him to.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

@@Boostedbakon I had his jersey :(

[@benflynn1006]

Gruden was obsessed with him

[@TravisCann]

"The Bucs hired team president Bruce Allen" YUP THERE IT IS, THAT'S THE REASON RIGHT THERE!

[@penguinskits3698]

Thank god he’s not with the redskins anymore

[@LazyCat010]

Bruce Allen, NFL Party Planner

[@albert_oponda]

As a Bucs fan, this was really hard to watch. But, the truth stings. This would be a great SB series though.

[@dcthekid1503]

Be glad you have a super bowl win - a Fed up falcons fan

[@bordaz1]

I remember those last years of the NFC Central very well. For me the Bucs collapse boils down to two (or three) decisions. Correct me if i'm wrong. One was adding Keyshawn in the first place. His personality was too much for his overrated abilities as a receiver to compensate: players who could stretch the defense, like Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne, would have been better complements to McCardell. The other was getting rid of Lynch and Sapp, who still had productive years after TB and were still better than whoever replaced them

[@razkable]

losin mike alstar hurt too..i love how they didnt mention him...he was too old...

[@KTF0]

90s Cowboys would be good.

[@toddsands6000]

The Bucs immediate downfall was from Jon Gruden having too much control. I remembered when Keenan McCardell was up for contract talks. Gruden stiffed the guy after Gruden allegedly promised McCardell that he would work things out with him next year. When a man like McCardell would refuse to talk to Gruden, one has to consider if any of us were in McCardell's shoes. Between men, a lie like that is the worse thing imaginable between men. I know it's business. But if someone says: "You have my word," or "I promise," we all hold each other accountable. That in my opinion was a snake move.

[@Bmoretamp]

As a Bucs fan this video was painful to watch, just like the last 17 years of Bucs football :(

[@adhynugroho9424]

I left the States at 2004. Have the Bucs missed out on the playoffs for that long? 17 straight seasons?

[@DouglasFilmsLtd]

As a Raiders fan, same.

[@macalloway1]

@@DouglasFilmsLtd ditto as a raider fan but to be fair this video was super misleading when it said they intended to spend to improve the offense but instead paid tim brown and Charlie garner knowing darned well they didnt pay them very much because they were at the end of their careers.

[@pwherry84]

11 years in a row of no playoff appearances. It's been rough being a Bucs fan, but I can't jump ship.

[@3rdbeatz836]

Ryan Averil stick in there fellow Bucs fan we gon win It all very soon

[@kaminsod4077]

Here's hoping for a future episode on the 80s Mets.

[@Karmy.]

and the Red Wings

[@kaminsod4077]

@@Karmy. If you haven't watched urinatingtrees video on the red wings I highly recommend it.

[@Karmy.]

@@kaminsod4077 yeah

[@Jase_Gamez]

The Braves since the 1990 run

[@Applefanatic1000]

The 80s cocaines?

[@chrismaxwell6192]

Bruce Allen. Say it with me everyone: The culture is damn good.

[@squidparty2000]

H a i l T o T h e D e a d s k i n s

[@bmore4lyfe316]

SquidParty You mean "Hail to the Washington Football Team" lmao. 😂😂

[@LazyCat010]

Winning off the field 😄

[@superblaze1]

the culture, is actually damn dead

[@crowtservo]

Him and Gruden have emails to prove it.

[@caelanregister4966]

As a lifelong Buccaneers fan, this hurt me so much to watch. I remember all of this. So glad you made a video on this because our post-2002 collapse isn't talked about enough. Being a Bucs fan has been torture since then. Thanks for the great vid, I felt every second of this

[@razkable]

the lakers weren't a joke

[@brantleydeady3125]

How about now dude? Go bucs!

[@austinrutledge2935]

How you feel about Brady from the superbowl 2 yrs ago

[@highlybaked8417]

As a Bucs fan I appreciate being noticed for once

[@Jitbabyj]

HighlyBaked I thought I was the only buc fan & Tampa native who thought that!! WTF *hits blunt 💨

[@highlybaked8417]

@@Jitbabyj I actually live and was raised in LA haha

[@caelanregister4966]

I know right?? Perfect candidate for the first episode of this series and I'm so glad we were thought of. Someone out there notices and feels our pain!!!

[@coleslaw3365]

As a saints fan, hope you losers stay in the cellar for many more years to come #WHODAT

[@alexortiz8932]

Cole Slaw we will see how you do when Brees retires

[@tomweaverling1366]

My all time favorite team! I'm from Pittsburgh but I absolutely loved the Bucs from around 1999 till about 2004. Big ole Mike Alstott was my favorite player. He was a beast.

[@scottaznavourian5791]

2002 in the nfl: Bucs were a dynasty Raiders didnt suck Chad penningtom was the next joe montana Drew bledaoe revived the bills Tom brady was ac fluke' and the patriots 'a one year wonder' 😆

[@boosted211]

also last time the browns were in the playoffs

[@scottaznavourian5791]

@@boosted211 first and only time that brady played more then 8 minutes for the season and the patriots missed the playoffs

[@doublespinkid2093]

good times

[@ethansprague2005]

@@boosted211 2007

[@boosted211]

@@ethansprague2005 nope

[@finchborat]

11:44 - 11:46 The Bucs have 2002 and now 2020. Not a Bucs fan, but as a Patriots fan, I'm happy the GOAT got #7! Enjoy the title Tampa! I was 10 when y'all last won it all.

[@bioblastbeats6450]

I'm a lifelong Buc's fan. I was at the Monday night game against Peyton, the Colts, and Tony Dungy. That was literally the most demoralizing, soul crushing, agonizing defeat I've ever experienced and no matter how many years later I still think of that game and shudder. It ended any Super Bowl after glow and it was the end of my team's relevance in five minutes.

[@Alan-oj3ps]

I agree. We went into a downward spiral. And we didn't get out until Brady came here 17 years later.

[@natemarx4999]

You need to do one about the 1990's Buffalo Bill's.

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

The Bills had one missed field goal and lost to superior NFC opponents. A collapse is more when you don't reach your potential due to internal issues. Was that really the case for them? (I watched all those Super Bowls but am not intimately familiar with their management at the time)

[@tmlfan7785]

Palace Of Wisdom more in that they followed up dominating the AFC with the longest playoff drought that I can remember

[@codycavanaugh9482]

“Because not every championship needs to be followed up by a happy ending.” Reference to Robert Kraft?

[@j.mieses8139]

LOL..Man that was Funny!

[@aubsta1]

Cody Cavanaugh best comment ever!

[@flyingfreerv8007]

Coffee just come out my nose.

[@robertpreston2220]

Kraft has many championships. Every teams wishes they were the pats

[@guyrandom1]

Robert Preston true but they suck

[@tobiasrecalde]

This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites, keep the good work

[@user-po5le7fz6n]

Collapse indeed. It's been rough for us fans since then. But to experience the ultimate for a football fan will never allow me to put down Gruden in 2002. To win a Super Bowl that is priceless for a fan!!!! That memory and awesome season will never be stained by the following years. Only those who experience YOUR team WINNING the SUPER BOWL understand where I'm coming from. Thank you Glazer famiily (owners) , Sam Whyche(RIP)/Rich McKay, Tony Dungy/Tampa 2 and Gruden 2002! Super Bowl Champions Buccaneers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Joe_Parmesan]

Well said. I wouldn't trade years of seeing maybes/mediocrity for the chance to those Bucs hoist the trophy

[@user-po5le7fz6n]

@itssnowcone yes we did! But winning the first is a feeling you’ll never forget. Not every fan knows the feeling.

[@user-po5le7fz6n]

@itssnowcone im pulling for you guys. I want John Lynch to experience it again. Now as a GM. I also think is your time. It should be a good game. Go 49ers!!!!

[@popfizz55]

Any video remotely related to the bucs or pats: “Who’s here after the bucs won the super bowl?”

[@iamlegend5373]

The ironic thing is literally everyone is watching the video after that happened. Hate those comments

[@kylejenkins8234]

Had to come back because I remembered this video and Bradys bunch and Bruce arians revived the bucs 😂😂

[@DontTalk2Me]

I've been wanting a video about the 2002 bucs THANK YOU

[@DukeTHS]

Now, almost 2 years after this video was uploaded, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the Super Bowl Champions...

[@moebetta4224]

Just means they have a good chance to collapse all over again.

[@iamlegend5373]

@@moebetta4224 we didn’t trade away our future for a mediocre coach this time

[@sunsunavery4237]

I swear man the NFC south is crazy

[@dozhadeville444]

U mean Tampa Brady were the champions.

[@scottaznavourian3720]

@@iamlegend5373 you got tom freaking brady for peanuts 😆

[@tannerjamesgaughf]

As a long time and very sad Buccaneers fan, I am proud that we are featured in the debut of this series. Thank you SB Nation. More Jon Bois please.

[@ArchHades]

They never recovered from Peyton Manning's incredible Monday Night Comeback when he shredded them.

[@Budd631]

Brad Johnson has just as good of game. It was a weird night. Leaping on Rice was called lol

[@justingardner4658]

No, that was because our nickel CB was dinged up and in the final 6 mins Manning threw to whoever our replacement CB was covering. He literally just picked on one guy for 80% of the comeback. Then aided them with the 2nd worst call ever on Simeon Rice . ( #1 flag on Hasselback for tackling two Steelers on INT return in SB).

[@markboston9303]

I remember my bro telling me next day , on a landline dorm phone no doubt, how the Colts scored like a record 3 TDs in like 5 minutes . And back then you had to wait until NFL Countdown came on to see the game. You knew it was gonna be one of the top games so they wouldn't show it 10:40pm. They had 3 I'll songs when doing the top team broadcast and they had it for this game and the highlights of Manning just decimating Tampa was insane. You knew this kid was someone you didn't wanna mess around with . Like on another level

[@ArchHades]

@@markboston9303 For me that, and Super Bowl 51 were the best games i've ever witnessed. Of course there has been excellent and incredible back and forth games over the past 20 or so years (since i've been watching football), but there's something about an improbable comeback when a quarterback gets insanely hot that is just so exciting. In a crazy back and forth game, it's great and nerve racking, but you're just not really left stunned and 'in awe' of what just happened, unlike how you are when you witness a huge comeback.

[@futuregohan4837]

@@Budd631 Brad Johnson Is Certainly Not Peyton Manning But He's Solid

[@Baelor-Breakspear]

That 03 bucs team was amazing. The amount of hall of famers and all pro players was insane. They were truly stacked.

[@parasight21]

Seattle Mariners after 2001 gotta be on this series

[@MN-xo1cj]

Owners of the best record of all time. Also, one of only 2 teams to never make a World Series.

[@parasight21]

@@MN-xo1cj Yes and even with arguably one of the best contact hitter in the era and one of the best young pitcher in the game (Felix), Mariners were never able to put together a decent playoff team let alone a championship contending team. M's have gone through terrible free agent signings, completely botching draft picks and basically cleaning out everyone in the farm system through some dumb trades that never made sense. And honestly, this team is going to suffer for a long time.

[@rinoz47]

As a mariners fan.... yup. *grabs booze*

[@StaySafeStaySoggy]

God im a Mariners fan and i wanna blow my brains out thinking about that year my dad still talks about that year with all that talent GODDAMIT! Lol but that was our year probably wont get that close again

[@AJ_savage16]

That would be a good one Mariners have not been a playoff team since that 116 win season in 2001

[@garrettpelkofer6409]

Not Jon Bois but still Pretty Good

[@coletrickle1775]

Still not pretty good, but pretty good.

[@dennischen5367]

We like sports and don't care who knows

[@coletrickle1775]

@@dennischen5367 Is that from a lonely island song or is that from an episode I don't remember or what?

[@joaopedrobirchler8419]

A video about A.C. Milan's collapse would be great

[@Tom-ed2fc]

Italy after 2006

[@leevilduck]

@@Tom-ed2fc this is actually good

[@kcuba1228]

ibra + thiago silva + pato + robinho FiFA 12 Godly team.

[@5mAni1]

Who remembers kaka

[@parasight21]

joao pedro birchler I think collapse of clubs like Parma, Portsmouth and Leeds United are much more brutal than collapse of AC Milan. At least AC Milan is still playing Serie A but those three clubs have gone through some horrid times of bankruptcy, relegations, key players moving to bigger clubs (especially with Leeds) and etc.

[@goldbloodedfilms]

Collapse of the 49ers post-Harbaugh was brutal, worst offseason in history

[@TheCOWBOYRANCHER]

I wanted to cry man. At least we got hope now with Jimmy and Shanahan.

[@wickdolf5692]

It was like watching a dude get kicked in the balls.. you just felt the pain man. I'm not even a 49ers fan and that was a brutal offseason to watch.

[@mathautist]

Actually the collapse of the San Francisco Giants was worse.

[@iamlegend5373]

Welll....

[@jojolmfao]

my poor niners, they were supposed to win :,(

[@hull9181]

I love these.....everything y’all do on sb nation is a blessing

[@Ashish-xm9ol]

"This is good but not pretty good" "Where's Jon Bois?" "We like sports and we don't care who knows" "Basketball is my favourite sport, I like the way they dribble up and down the court" "Similar story of triumph followed by sustained sucking" "Narrator isn't Jon but it's okay cause he's cool because of beard"

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

You forgot "first".

[@xdgaming70]

Every SB Nation comment

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

They stopped being *Gruden Grinders* was the problem

[@mentaldisabilities1882]

Jeeves Anthrozaur Not enough fullbacks

[@mr.gentlezombie8709]

Didn’t run enough Spider 2 Y Banana

[@e93sports80]

Worst Home Run Derby Rewinder: Joe Carter's walk off home run in game 6 in the 1993 World Series

[@chrisbuek]

Still gives me chills to this day. Watched it as a kid in Philadelphia and it was CRUSHING.

[@codyssmith73]

Touch em all Joe, you'll never hit a bigger home run in your life!

[@mcepicquoteful]

@@chrisbuek ,

[@bradleynaismith6858]

When he brought the World Series back to Toronto!

[@VladusYinzer]

A friendly reminder that Rich McKay's father, Jon McKay, was the head coach of the Bucs when they started 0-26

[@RenaldyCalixte]

Wow...the more you know...🌈

[@Boostedbakon]

And had some brilliant quotes

[@beooftheeuphrates]

He also led them to the NFC title game in 1979, the earliest conference championship game appearance of any expansion team (4 years). Lost by 3.

[@daneamann6225]

They lost 9-0

[@TarmaanProductions]

beo um the panthers and jags made it their second season

[@markf.4063]

Dismantle the Defense to build the Offense....seems like Chuckie hasn't learned his lesson yet. Gruden is all about Gruden.

[@donalddeluxe6407]

TBH, he also traded Amari of whom was the offensive player.

[@miltonvonahnen6225]

Gruden shouldn't be any where near a football feild!

[@Logan-ee5rx]

To be honest I would do the same thing given how the league is today. If your offense can’t score your going to loose even if you have the 85 bears defense. Sometimes the best defense is a great offense.

[@justingardner4658]

Disagree , the better defense still wins 90% of the time. In a way I could agree with you if you said offensive line. I believe whichever team has the most dominating o line is a way to play defense by controlling the game. Just dropping back n throwing isn’t EVER gonna win a SB.

[@LogueTheRogue]

@@justingardner4658 Bruh the 49ers just lost the SB to a drop back team! The 49ers had a way better defense and O-line and they couldn't beat a team that had a scat back as their RB. Do you even watch football?

[@BK-jn9cp]

As a bucs fan I appreciate this video...but at 8:17 that picture of Chris Simms is during a game where he finished the game after RUPTURING HIS SPLEEN in the first half.

[@Bodmw01]

Dude legit almost died. Gruden complained about needing weapons on offense but never really paid mind to the offensive line, which ultimately screwed over any QB that didn't possess some mobility. No clue how Gruden ever got the QB guru title because he's never coached up any young QBs *ever*.

[@joshtaylor9884]

@@Bodmw01 our oline was pretty solid from 2007 to about 2013

[@gorilla8811]

@@Bodmw01 Derek Carr, mobile, smart, skilled talented.

[@cadenh.1252]

Be careful the Raiders might trade this video

[@DiegoRivera-xw1cd]

🤣🤣💀🐍

[@RenaldyCalixte]

Raiders fans will say its part of a grander plan instead of just poor decision making.

[@brandonmccall2980]

Even more relevant now 😂

[@phuturephunk]

I legit laughed at this.

[@rowdyrefs]

Now it's 2020 and they have the goat.

[@kats873]

Past his prime.

[@CascadianRanger]

Brady is 42. At best hes in the league 2 more years and those are not good years

[@alirizvi2394]

@@kats873 true but still winning more than your team

[@ghosttoast8610]

@@CascadianRanger yall have said he’s dropping off for years

[@briteslider]

@@alirizvi2394 Do you know his team?

[@assumptionisthemotherofall2402]

Was anyone really surprised that an ex-coach knew how to beat his former team?

[@longshot7601]

Tony Dungee built that team. Gruden just had the inside information to beat the Raiders. There is sideline banter between players saying that it was everything that they had practiced even after Callahan said that he changed everything from when Gruden was there. I'm glad that Dungee got another chance with the Colts.

[@Numbnuts007]

Yeah, that's why I can't wait for the next couple of seasons. Maybe my hometown Buccaneers will actually win a legitimate Lombardi trophy. 😅

[@gluserty]

It's like Mike Holmgren's Packers having the knack against the 1995-'98 49ers (1998 Wild Card game had a Jerry Rice fumble not called before 49ers winning play) or in the NBA with Don Nelson's 2006-2007 Warriors squad taking down the 67-15 Mavericks in the first round of the playoffs.

[@uncreative5766]

@@Numbnuts007 are you... are you a prophet?

[@rumble4114]

@@longshot7601 Dungy also had a hand in building that offense based around Shaun King, Warrick Dunn, and Mike Alstott who got pushed around in Philly 2 years in a row. People act like Brad Johnson, McCardell, Pittman, Jurevicius, and both TEs were new with system totally different results in league rank and playoff scores. Dungy was amazing, but people give him too much credit (which is to say all) for Gruden's title. There's a great chance that the offense under Dungy in 02-03 having lost Warrick Dunn it's most explosive player, would have performed even worse. Not 10th in the NFL and 100+ points in the playoffs.

[@vkw619]

As a Diehard Bucs fan, this hurt to watch, so damn hard. Amazing work as always SB Nation.

[@Tazer183]

Now how you feelin

[@luc-rikardofils6673]

I’m a Bucs fan too, and now I’m pretty sure just like me you’re elated!

[@iamlegend5373]

@@luc-rikardofils6673 I am too

[@sdsdsa0d]

A few suggestions: Chicago Bulls(From Jordan's second retirment till today) Los Angeles Lakers(After the 2010 championship) New York Giants(After the 2011 SB) Denver Broncos(After the 2015 SB, or post Elway retirement until they got Manning) Detroit Red Wings AC Milan Nottingham Forest and if you want to extend it to MMA, Renan Barão(which might be one of the biggest collapses ever, the man went from a top 5 P4P to a scrub in just a few years)

[@jimmyvaughan4213]

These are awesome suggestions! Renan would be the best one to cover too as his collapse is insane to see!

[@0xx0_Lester]

I'll put 1990s lakers after magic .

[@bradleynaismith6858]

Let's be real. The Red Wings and any other hockey episodes are inspired by UrinatingTree.

[@GenericUserNameHere]

Nottingham Forest is a great shout. Aston Villa or Leeds would also be good.

[@sdsdsa0d]

Bradley Naismith I won’t lie, I was thinking about UT when I came up with the Red Wings

[@jackharris4239]

This is much better than weird rules

[@jackkabel7704]

Jack Harris nah weird rules is good

[@charlesalberti563]

I love the concept of weird rules, but this format suits me and possibly that series better

[@musyarofah1]

Several collapse ideas: -Liverpool FC after 1990 -McLaren after 2012 -Newman-Haas Racing after Indycar reunification -Internazionale Milan after 2010 treble -NY Islanders after the dinasty -Nottingham Forest since 90s

[@asnark7115]

They were a team built around a lot of talent that was prime at the same time and running a defense they were suited for and experienced with. Reminds me a lot of the '85 Bears.

[@jedimasterjosh87]

I need more of these NFL collapse videos. Seriously, I’ll watch every single one.

[@Joe_Parmesan]

It's not a small feat to win a championship. There's been what 7 teams besides the Pats in the last 10 years (Giants, Seahawks, Eagles, Broncos, Ravens, Steelers, Saints, Packers. Might be missing 1). Going back to the time of the Bucs win, the Colts are the only other team to win. Having said that, the Bucs collapse has been brutal. Cadillac Williams got injured and was never able to fully recover. They had some decent 1st round picks at the end of the decade (Aqib Talib and Adrian Clayborn have won rings since leaving). A loss to the lowly Lions in 2010 prevented the Bucs from making the playoffs (the team, particularly Josh Freeman, was on fire to end the season). Found what we thought was the franchise QB, but the newly hired coach and QB clashed. Both were gone after a year or 2. Since 2013, it's been endless coaching and QB carousels..until drafting another potential franchise QB (Jameis Winston), but he hasn't dominated for an extended period of times (some good games here and there). Oh yeah, and the defense has been at the bottom of the NFL for the past few years. It's been a wild ride, and I'm grateful for that defense they once had. Especially #55 Derrick Brooks.

[@BorisLordOfAcorns]

how big are you gonna let your beard get, its huge i think its pretty good right now

[@frequentlyoffline3917]

You mean too good right now. Like Pekka Rinne

[@jamiehealy7732]

Let's rewind to back when he didn't have a beard

[@RuffRyder_43]

People wanna say that Tony Dungy was the biggest reason why the Bucs won that Super Bowl but without Jon Gruden, the Bucs probably lose to Philly and certainly wouldn’t have defeated Oakland in the Super Bowl as easily as they did. I can’t argue the fact that Gruden heavily contributed to the Bucs’ demise though...

[@SuperSuperbowl1]

Derek Ruff Without a doubt they do not win that Super Bowl in ‘02 if Dungy is still the coach. However Rich Mckay built the Bucs in the late 90s, not Dungy. And likewise Gruden didn’t destroy the team, Bruce Allen is to mostly blame for not finding replacements for guys like Sapp, Lynch and so on. 

[@artism1699]

I would say that Gurden is an average or above average coach. But He's terrible at evaluating talent and trading/releasing key pieces (*cough* *cough* Khalil Mack).

[@Aeope]

@@artism1699 I'm not a big Gruden fan, but it makes sense to get some real value out of Mack if you're gutting the team. He's probably the best in the league but it's hard to get the other pieces of a team if you're spending that much on one defensive player. Whether or not they could have won a super bowl with the team they had when Gruden takes over, I'm not sure. They were poised to do it before Derek Carr got injured a few years ago so I think they could.

[@insodeepcouldadrownedtwice9513]

Dungy probably wouldn't have gotten pass philly true, but Gruden definitely benefited from having that World beater defence.

[@bakgammon]

False assumption really. Same with mark Jackson and GS. Both built the foundation and weren't given more time

[@bangaamen501]

It's amazing that after this the Buccaneers blew out the Chiefs so that their Super Bowl appearances are both blowout victories it just goes to show you that sometimes no matter how much you collapse you can get right back up this is still one of your best works secret base keep up the good work

[@Alan-oj3ps]

Gruden won it his first year here. And so did Brady. Sometimes you're only a piece away from achieving your goal.

[@Aj11117777]

Love the new series, please make more of these

[@kvltizt]

*opposing coach built your offense the year prior* *DON'T CHANGE SIGNALS OR FLOWCHARTS OR OR OR ANYTHING AT ALL* *Your QB gets picked 5 times because the defense knows exactly what plays are being run before the snap* God damn it, Bill Callahan

[@jruth77]

Butter Johnson and he also completely changed the game plan the night before the game too

[@joshtaylor9884]

Oakland was losing that game regardless.

[@davidford4475]

John Lynch needs 2 be in HOF💯ain't got nun 2 do with this but still💯 Brooks and Sapp are in, now Ronde and Lynch need 2 be in

[@cellslave]

@Mike Keller English Version: Lynch and Barber deserve to be Hall of Famers also! :)

[@iamlegend5373]

Just got in

[@borneocoolpad7833]

He Will get in eventually. Man is HOF no doubts.

[@christophershaffer3921]

This hits differently now.

[@oldhead8292]

This should be 10 seconds long. An overrated coach won with Tony Dungys team. Then crapped the bed as expected. The end

[@GuitarInTheForest]

What of the years of success in oakland and the crazy high 2 firsts 2 second round picks for him?

[@aroobism]

AGREED

[@XxMATTxXist]

The nfc championship game vs the eagles was a way better game than the actual superbowl game

[@thebaconbuizel3598]

I know they weren’t champions, but the Ottawa Senators would make a great candidate for this series.

[@itsNRC]

TheBaconBuizel MIGHTY DUCKS

[@forgottenfamily]

Need more distance from right now. In part because we need to find out if they've actually found rock bottom

[@insodeepcouldadrownedtwice9513]

Yeal like why did they trade away Karllson?

[@forgottenfamily]

​@@insodeepcouldadrownedtwice9513 Because Eugene Melnyk is a cheap bastard Pro-tip: any time anyone asks why Ottawa Senators did anything, just copy and paste the previous sentence

[@thebaconbuizel3598]

They have nothing left. They’ve hit rock bottom

[@dhs0801]

We need the colaspe of the of the 49ers after Super Bowl 47

[@jacksonbear1]

David Silver YES

[@sasquatchhunter86]

Jed York. One second video.

[@Bodmw01]

Harbaugh leaves the end.

[@dvferyance]

The 49ers collapse started in 2003. I know they had a couple of good years with Kaepernick but that really weren't that great.

[@dnasty312]

They did it!

[@leeleestonecipher5199]

That was Dungys' ring. Gruden got put into the 100% perfect situation. Like Seifert and Switzer. Those teams really didnt need a coach. Dungy got his revenge though😂😂

[@rumble4114]

Dungy went 0-2 in the playoffs his last 2 years in Tampa, getting outscored 52-12, scoring 0 touchdowns. Gruden's first 2 playoff games in Tampa, he went 2-0 outscoring teams 58-16 and scoring 6 offensive touchdowns. They beat Philly by 17 instead of losing to them by 22. That's a 39 point swing. Explain plz.

[@williamstocker584]

Left out how Dungy got blown out in the playoffs in Philadelphia his last two years and the best they could do is win 9 or 10 games with dungy

[@hectormunoz6498]

This is a gem of a channel!

[@jonathanposs2471]

I cannot stress how much I love this channel. This is hands down my favorite and the most entertaining content on youtube. Much love from NY :)

[@CoolRainVibes]

It's okay. They won another one 18 years later.

[@johnstjohn1987]

And now Grudens doing the same thing in Oakland

[@scottyhaines4226]

Not too different. Now he has more cap space and he's not going to spend a ton on one side of the ball

[@AzureKite]

@@scottyhaines4226 You say that before he signed an OLineman to one of the richest OL deals ever and broke the bank for Antonio Brown... after spurning generational talent Khalil Mack. Yeah.

[@scottyhaines4226]

@@AzureKite yeah what? You haven't proven anything. They also signed LaMarcus Joyner, Johnathan Hankins and resigned Eric Harris and they still have the draft and the rest of free agency to do work.

[@Jordan-po8dn]

@@AzureKite They still got a ton of cap space

[@alexlim1275]

Some teams never learn haha

[@cantbereal5]

Please do an episode on the decline of Tennessee Vol football

[@cantbereal5]

Lord Yak I know we coming back lol. I got faith in Pruitt but I was young when we were winning. I wanna know why we fell off

[@kylegriffith8027]

GBO BABY 🍊

[@tycalvert7322]

@Lord Yak You're a basketball school now. Accept it

[@brandonconforto315]

spoiler alert, the two main reasons are Nick Saban taking over Alabama and Lane Kiffin, leaving to go to USC, the year after he took over the job for Phillip Fulmer.

[@marcus813]

I don't know where things went wrong in Knoxville. The Vols shouldn't be so mediocre in football.

[@jarradlavoie]

I honestly feel like this is the best sports channel on KZbin. I watch this more than ESPN and any other sports channel on here. The videos are great quality, well researched and broken down, and the subject matter is usually always something I'm interested in watching. Got a sub and I'm part of ur notification gang

[@richardnunez3474]

SB Nation you always bring back memories with a detailed picture that leaves no doubt as to what really took place. AttaBoy!!!!

[@SonOfWu]

As a bucs fan I was super hopeful after the Super Bowl win but now I can see that Gruden stripped the team to nothing, sad but it does explain alot

[@RubyWaves]

You know why you're here.

[@Evanswift]

Beat me to it

[@RealNameDre]

I liked gruden doing commentary on ESPN Monday night football, that was good commentary, even if the game was garbage.

[@jamesm3471]

Too bad he got cancelled for violently hwurting some people’s feelings. He has to go live on Homophobe-McRacist Island with Papa John, Cosmo Kramer, Dave Chapelle, and Randy Marsh!!

[@lovelacesheldon]

Well done, first episode with my favorite team. I like it, even though it broke my heart all over again.

[@divinebovine12185]

Great series! I've been marathoning all the videos!

[@jorgemiguel8595]

And 19 years later their back on top

[@TheUncleDrew]

Anybody here after they acquired TB and Gronk ?

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

Tom Brady and Gronk on the Bucs? I wonder how that's gonna work out for them...

[@williamdavis5549]

@@shreknskrubgaming7248 yeah i think they will win the super bowl and Gronk will catch 2 TDS but I'm just guessing

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

@@williamdavis5549 I don't know, seems like wishful thinking to me. That Chiefs offense is unstoppable. Should be a tight, explosive game all in all. Can't wait to see it!

[@jimmyrecendiz4940]

Manchester United after Sir Alex retired would be amazing and hilarious

[@christopherchan5245]

After numerous good videos, I want more. Congrats you earned a subscriber.

[@UTWJAYE216]

Dope line at the end about dude at the bar

[@MrKegan321]

I love how AB is a Raider now. The nation is just gonna forget that Gruden cant deal with diva receivers.

[@fightsports66]

AB is a helluva lot better receiver than MeShawn. Gruden will learn to get along with him.

[@ktownshutdown21]

Gruden HIMSELF is a diva, so their endless fighting is going to be hilarious to watch 😜

[@Saixjacket]

AB gonna be sitting out with a fake injury when they can’t outscore even bad teams.

[@mikebond9612]

Lol. This post is much funnier after the news today (9/5/19) lol

[@MrKegan321]

Well. My point stands. Gruden and diva wide receivers dont mix. AB has been released.

[@nohbuddy1]

The 80s Bears would be good. Probably the greatest team ever only winning one title.

[@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520]

The 85 Bears were an amazing team! I think the 1984-88 Bears teams are one of the top 3 teams to nearly have a dynasty, but... I think that history will prove to show that the 2012-16 Seattle Seahawks were the greatest team to nearly have a dynasty.

[@nohbuddy1]

@@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520 Yeah that Seahawks team at least won the conference the next year

[@lalilali8758]

They were on track to win 2 in a row but McMahon got injured in a dirty play where he was slammed to the ground after the whistle vs the packers.

[@nohbuddy1]

@@lalilali8758 Eh that team was carried by the defense

[@lalilali8758]

AmericanNohbuddy ™ the defense was still great they were 14-2 the coaching in the playoffs was pretty bad. And an uncharacteristic fumble by Walter Payton too among other things that game.

[@williamtoad8040]

you guys are gonna do one about the Philadelphia Eagles after Super Bowl LII some day

[@gb6710]

This was fun to watch, thank you.

[@jakeseifried6819]

I've watched this videos. It's put together very well and the presentation got me hooked fast. I hope to see more videos like this.

[@Spaceman0715]

Hey SB you might have to make a part two. Call it the precollapse. Brady Gronk and Arians. Can’t wait to see

[@themanthelegendjmw]

How the White Sox fell apart after dominating the 2005 world series.

[@sylvestermutuku5654]

Worse yet, how everyone forgot that the White Sox actually won a world series.

[@ronaldferguson8657]

Jon Michael Walters yes bro that was a good team

[@MrPresident1878]

Jerry Reinsdorf and the art of the Eternal Rebuild.

[@justherefortheviolence]

The twins and tigers were pretty good in 2006 tho to be fair

[@enterderpmode3934]

Oh boy..this series is gonna be good..I sense 28-3 and 3-1 coming...

[@evanwillsmore]

Watching these can be so sad tbh...a team can reach the highest peaks so quickly and then lose it all in the same amount of time. Hopefully the Brady-Gronk duo along with Coach Arians and the pro bowl receivers will provide some happy moments for Tampa in the 2020 season. The Bucs could definitely use them.

[@real_blackmamba8665]

8 more years it's about to be "How Jon Gruden traded away HOF Khalil Mack for draft busts"

[@AS-iv7kg]

Busts? He hasn't used them all yet??????

[@ooonyxxx]

Let's hope they're not 🤞🏽

[@MadManGaming74]

So glad he sent amari to the cowboys really helped Dak out last year. Jon gruden is a horrible coach.

[@bowlchamps37]

@@MadManGaming74 Jon Gruden has a WAA of 1.14 but OK, he is a bad coach.

[@MadManGaming74]

@@bowlchamps37 his success is because of the team Tony Dungy put together in Tampa. Gruden is horrid as a coach and he don't seem that good as a gm either with all the dumb moves he has made.

[@davidmorris5193]

We climbed back and won the Super Bowl this season! Go bucs!!

[@Chuck_Deuces]

Dungy got his chip with the colts so it’s ok.

[@carllawton94]

With the former coaches team not his, he basically did what Gruden did to the Bucs after they won the Superbowl.

[@dshiznit12a]

@@carllawton94 former coaches team wtf he was there 5 years before winning the superbowl.

[@sc30002001]

@@carllawton94 it only works if you win when arriving there.

[@grimtea1715]

Deep Rewind: Tom Brady goes to the Buccaneers. He deserves it now, ended the drought, finally won another playoff game since the Bowl, Beat Drew Brews in New Orleans, and won in Green Bay to win the NFC Chip and Wins Super Bowl 55

[@matthewgliatto7339]

This “Collapse” series consists of a lot of my favorite videos on all of KZbin. At least the NFL ones, since that’s the primary sport that I follow.

[@donnelladams340]

Tony dungy built that team and took them to the playoffs. The bucs fire dungy and gift wrap a Superbowl for Gruden.

[@miltonvonahnen6225]

Seriously couldn't agree more!

[@donnelladams340]

@@miltonvonahnen6225 Absolutely

[@jackcarraway4707]

False! Let's do some fact checking: Dungy was was hired in 1996. Derrick Brooks, Warren Sapp and John Lynch was already on the team. Since reaching the NFC Championship in 1999, Tampa progressively got worse in 2000 and 2001.

[@donnelladams340]

@@jackcarraway4707 They were already on the team but were they going to the playoffs BEFORE DUNGY GOT THERE HELL NO

[@donnelladams340]

@@jackcarraway4707 1993 the bucs were 5 and 11 1994 they were 6 and 10 and 1995 they were 7 and9. Sapp lynch brooks were all on the team but no playoff appearances. Dungy came there and built the team to a playoff team and was let go and gruden came into a playoff team that he guided to the Superbowl. But Gruden didn't build that team Dungy did. 2000 the bucs were 10 and 6 playoff appearance and 2001 9 and 7 and guess what playoff appearance. You make it sound like they went from 10 and 6 unto 5 and 11 and that wasn't the case. FYI those same players were on the team with gruden so he won with Dungy's team.