Secure Forever! - Part8: The False Teaching of Perseverance

[@19bmase]

"This false teaching can drive people insane." (5-minute mark) --- Perfectly said and so true. Amen. Perseverance of the Saints drove me insane for the better part of two years! I would listen to John MacArthur and convince myself that I was lost. I would have horrific meltdowns. For example: when Satan threw a dart at me, if I would get frustrated, then I felt like I was committing a sin and was not fully sanctified like MacArthur and all the Calvinists who painted a picture of perfection. Surely, they wouldn't slam their fists in frustration, right? ---- A few years later I can say: Take a hike, MacArthur. I praise the Lord Jesus Christ for his shed blood on the cross of calvary that washes my sins away. Glory, praise and honor to the slain lamb who took on the sin of the world!

[@jamesh.osasinchrist6810]

Praise God you got out of that 🙏🙌

[@theodoreritola7641]

A STRONG AMEN TO THAT ..I PUT ALL MY TRUST IN THEEEE LORD JESUS CHRIST OUR REDEEMER ...

[@theodoreritola7641]

Jesus Christ will never ,,,, UN... REDEEME ANY OF HIS CHILDREN

[@stylus2253]

I once had a convo with someone online who said they believed in Christ as a child, but now they didn't follow him anymore. I wish I had been more confident of this doctrine at that time, because I could have been more definitive and maybe encouraging to them. This is really such a devilish problem.

[@JohnJohn-bp5ci]

Great series. Thank you for expounding on, and exposing this erroneous Calvinist teaching that causes confusion, and uncertainty or as you hinted....it may trigger or exacerbates symptoms of dread and doubt in those who may be suffering from mental pain such as depression, or OCD, etc.....even in those who have believed. Jesus Christ is the Solid Rock on which we stand. Our faith needs to be in Him alone; not our works before or after salvation. Our perseverance has Nothing to do with it. Our salvation and our assurance is secure in Christ. Jesus Christ, God's one and only Son, who paid for all of our sins is the author and finisher of our faith, because He is God in the flesh and His Word is true. We can depend on Him! The totality, assurance and finality of salvation rests only and completely on what Jesus Christ did for us; not on what we do or don't do for Him. And while we should obey God as we yield to Him in gratitude and submission after we've put our trust in Christ's finished work because it is His Will that we live faithful lives after being saved, our perseverance and our works do not save us, nor do they keep us saved. Christ keeps us saved. He preserves His own even when they do not persevere. Our security is in what Christ has done for us. He is faithful even when we are not. Amazing grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me. I once was lost, but now I'm found, was blind, but now I see. Jesus paid it all. All to Him I owe. Sin had left a crimson stain, He washed it white as snow. Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine! Oh what a foretaste of glory divine. Heir of salvation, purchased of God. Born of His Spirit, washed in His blood! My hope is built on nothing less, than Jesus' blood and righteousness! John 3:16 John 5:24 Acts 16:31 All glory and honor and praise be to my Savior whereby through faith in Him alone I have eternal life!!!!!!!!

[@elgriego331]

Now that is "GOOD" news. Amen! Thank you Jesus for your Amazing Gift!

[@freyaaldrnari6086]

I have OCD

[@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT]

100% correct.

[@mf-ud1uo]

This Pastor is GREAT ,I MEAN GREAT ,HE Knows what the Bible teaches...

[@lchimenz]

Excellent teaching.

[@louvanrensburg1170]

Thank you JESUS for the Blood AMEN

[@leighastjohn8612]

AMEN! Jesus paid it all and I trust God's word that He did it all FOR me!

[@EugeneHolley-rc6ry]

Well said, it took me years to figure out that it was all done for us for free, I think many believe that is just too good to be true, and that we must assist God in some way.

[@EugeneHolley-rc6ry]

I grew up in the Catholic church as well, it is as bad as or worse than Calvinism in their teaching of another gospel, another Christ, the priesthood, the Mass, their traditions being as important as scripture. 1 Timothy 4:1-5 fits the footprint of their Catholic belief system perfectly, Calvinism cannot tell the difference between God and Satan. This is a really good series.

[@katgirl7274]

Thank you for teaching the Word of God! God bless you

[@SR1-774]

Excellent teaching. I listen to you and grow in my faith. Thank You

[@Jesusandmentalhealth]

I so appreciate your messages! Glad I came across this KZbin channel.

[@Califgracer]

Wonderful presentation Tom! Solid Bible references!

[@richhunter5013]

The more I understand the truth The more I hate the lies

[@dallasweber7692]

We Are Getting Our 2nd Home In St. Cloud. We Look So Forward To Visiting As Your Church & Ministry At Northland As The Blessing Of Truth & Love Is So Bountiful. John 6:47 John 3:15 & John 3:16 Are My Assurances To Others & Myself.👏😊

[@Joshtheigbo]

Works salvation does not save

[@tannerfrancisco8759]

If you know how to trust the Holy Spirit for spiritual discernment as a real gift of the Spirit then you can distinguish between a pastor mispeaking, one teaching error as a honest mistake, teaching error due to their own deception, one teaching error motivated by an ungodly spirit/demon, and one willfully deceiving of their flesh and/or demonically motivated. So learn hear the Holy Spirit and trust Him when He speaks. Act on it and practice it. Exercise that gift strengthening your trust in it, and He will keep you from being deceived into so much error and demonic deception.

[@chuckpodruchny6048]

It’s amazing that my Calvinist friend tell me that if you believe the gospel without God, regenerating you and making you believe in it is an act of work… yes once your regenerated I guess as long as you persevere that’s still God persevering you and not yourself😜🤪😜🤪🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ you can’t make this stuff up! That’s how daemonic it is in my opinion😢

[@kaioken654]

Can you please point me to the video where you talk about the believers that didn't die in faith

[@Romans-838]

I really like this teaching but what about: But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. Matthew 24:13

[@jjsmoley]

The number one rule of interpreting the Bible is to keep it in context. If you go back to the start of Matthew 24 you can clearly see that the topic was about the end of the world not getting to heaven. So this passage is talking about persevering through the wars and the famines during the end times and being saved into the Millennium Kingdom on earth.

[@frankw.1721]

This verse …Matthew 24:13…is about being rescued by Christ at the rapture…taken into heaven just before the Day of the Lord begins.

[@thomasarmstrong3918]

I have a question for a friend who thinks that once your saved if you stop believing you will lose your salvation. That you hath to keep believing to be saved. Also I don't know how to explain Hebrew 6:4-8 To him

[@mikeha]

2 Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

[@leamandic3404]

Hebrew is written to Jews and not Gentiles. They have tasted saw the miracles and signs from Jesus but still decided to not follow Him. I know one good teacher was explaining this verse very well i will give you a link And Our Identity for Body in Christ is from Romans to Phillipians. Before that from Genesis to Acts 9 is Time Past. Is not written to us and neither From Hebrews to Revelation. God Bless

[@leamandic3404]

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[@tannerfrancisco8759]

Practically speaking, if you "stop believing" it's probably that they never truly believed. But the Bible teaches there are those who become apostate and fall away. There are those who either through their own sin or deception into doctrines of demons will reject Jesus after having known Him. There are those who call themselves Christians but forsake Christ/forfeit their salvation by choosing to trust in their own works and false doctrines instead of in Christ. That's what happens quite frequently to those deceived into Calvinism or Lordship Salvation. They are not trusting in Christ but instead in a false gospel and then they harden their hearts to the Truth over and over until they die in their unbelief. We can't lose our salvation through sinning, but we can forfeit it. Just as we came willingly into God's grace, we can leave willingly even if we are in the self or demonic deception of false religion.

[@jjsmoley]

@@tannerfrancisco8759 It's true that someone, who at one point in their life trusted Christ to save them, can walk away from Christ in their daily living. However, they can't lose their salvation. There are a number of passages in the Bible that say the moment you believe that you HAVE eternal life. If something is eternal / everlasting it can never end otherwise it wouldn't be eternal. John 3:36 John 6:47 1 John 5:13

[@BroBill-y9r]

Path to glory? huh? There is no path to glory, there is a way to glory. He has a name.

[@theodoreritola7641]

Would that HAPPEN TO BE MY REDEEMER THE LORD JESUS CHRIST ?

[@richhunter5013]

Second Timothy 2:15 is the keys too unlock the prison cells of çalvannism John MacArthur is the warden of this prison

[@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT]

Every honest Calvinist sleeps with one eye open. Interesting but very sad story. In June of 2001, during his message at a Ligonier’s Conference in Orlando, Fla., the late Dr. R. C. Sproul indicated that Dr. James Boice, a scheduled speaker at the conference, was dying that very night. Then at the end of the message he asked all 5,000 present to pray that Jim "dies in faith". Dr. Boyce was considered a great pastor, theologian, teacher, and author, yet Sproul was not sure that he was regenerate. Dr. Boyce did die that night. They all hoped he persevered ... but they cannot know if that was God's "gift" to him or not. The real irony lies in their 'prayer' that Dr. Boyce would truly be saved. According to "U"conditional Election... God either loved him 'salvifically' or he hated him. just like Esau, and literally nothing could ever be done to change his eternal decree. And, if God hated him, why would they run the risk of 'loving' him?... They just don't know, and believe they cannot know, but most won't admit it, even to themselves. It is said that Dr. Sproul even wondered out loud near is own death if he had done 'enough'. Calvinists can have no real personal assurance, they're only hoping for the best, because they believe they're either 'picked' or they'll bust Hell wide open without a prayer.... literally. Desperate for 'evidence' of salvation, they cling to their 'works' as pieces of a broken shipwreck at sea, it's all they have.

[@frankw.1721]

I agree--was raised in Calvinism--but got out of that false teaching. There is only one Gospel…the one spelled out in Ephesians 2:8-9. by grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone.

[@kevindavis4709]

I sure hope these lose your salvation people treat people the same not being shallow. The Bible doesn't say love your neighbor only if they're pleasing until the eyes. Or be a friend only if they're pleasing unto the eyes. Be nice to people only if they have fine things in life. One last thing too look at here. When Paul said it's better too marry than burn with passion. He doesn't say it's better too marry if they're pleasing unto the eyes than too burn with passion. See how they are ready break the commandments there? That will be bad lose your salvation because you turned down a person because they were not pleasing to your caliber. The Bible does say you break one commandment you break them all. I wouldn't had known these things had I had perfect eyes. As a legally blind Christian with low vision you often times find out a so-called Christians true colors.

[@SR1-774]

Lot was a righteous man according to scripture. I believe he was a righteous man because scripture says he was. Lot's life was filled with gross sins . He offered his daughters to the homosexuals to be abused in a sexual ways we would understand as rape. He later impregnated both of his daughter's. How does Calivinism explain Lot and how he persevered to the end ????

[@johannmeiring4208]

Are you trinitarians?

[@tomy8339]

Paul clearly taught to persevere in the faith. He said himself at the end of his life that he has persevered to the end, ran his raced and finished. I don't know what Bible you are reading from.