Could Bruce Lee beat Muhammad Ali??

[@wildlifefishingshow]

Because he moved so fast, a lot of people forget how damn big Ali was.

[@me0101001000]

Yeah. Imagine moving that fast at 191cm and 100kg. Getting hit by that is like getting hit by a goddamn train.

[@JDezi4BVlog]

At the time, journalists mentioned a famous moment when they first saw Ali stand next to Sonny Liston... The idea was that Liston was the bigger stronger guy, and Ali was the skinny, pretty boxer... But then they met at the center of the ring to touch gloves, and everyone saw that the "skinny" Ali was not only taller but had comparably wide shoulders.

[@TheReal_GigaChad]

​@@me0101001000who are you even talking about here😭

[@cygnusprime6728]

Right. On film you perceive him to be a lanky, fast guy but he was way bigger than the average person. 6'3, 225-230 lbs. He had pretty wide shoulders and thick muscular legs.

[@tooskooski]

@@JDezi4BVlogat the end of the day he was a heavyweight 🤷🏾‍♂️ ali has taken much more punishment on the chin than bruce can pack

[@Baroxshitposter665]

Lee himself said that Ali would have kill him in a fight I respect Bruce, but Ali was truly a Beast!

[@momentmoment-4]

mmmmmm yeah but fighters that aren't assholes are usually too humble to say "yeah I'd beat his ass." Ali said that Tyson would knock him out, and Tyson to this day maintains that Ali would knock him out, so... I dunno. I think booce would beat ali.

[@username-yc3bd]

@@momentmoment-4 bruce also weighed 140 pounds to ali’s 236

[@B.Wilde1]

He did give himself a chance in a street fight where he could kick but yeah Lee said it wasn't much of a chance and compared their hand size to illustrate that point.

[@echelon2k8]

It's not verified that Bruce Lee actually said this. It's just hearsay of hearsay. This was what Robert Clouse (Enter the Dragon director) said in a book written many years after Lee's death that Bruce Lee said to Bolo Yeung (Bad muscled guy in Enter the Dragon) when he visited Bruce at Golden Harvest Studios. As Robert Clouse was a noted bs artist, the same guy who spread around a false rumor that Bruce Lee wanted to kill Bob Wall after an accident on set involving a glass bottle that cut Bruce's hand, and the fact that he just didn't like Bruce Lee very much, I take this particular claim with a pinch of salt.

[@echelon2k8]

@@B.Wilde1 Hearsay of hearsay.

[@gabrielleite32]

Small correction, Ali fought 15 rounds bouts.

[@dozer11]

Great catch! That was definitely a brutal time to have those 15 round bouts.

[@alexferrana3979]

And he fought in a harsh environment, such as extreme heat in Rumble In The Jungle and warm & humid climate in "Thrills in Manila"

[@IbrahimAl-Khwarizmi]

Right, I was like c’mon Seth, u know it was 15 rounds

[@MashuSlyferiux]

It was 15 rounds but 15 would start to steam even Ali himself off, 12 he can do without really steaming out

[@gabrielleite32]

@@MashuSlyferiux yeah, 45 minutes of intense activity is crazy

[@RamseyDewey]

Seth is about to be excommunicated from the church of Jeet Kune Do here!

[@MOMOHAJI585]

Muhammad Ali was a black belt in taekwando

[@jdiaz4877]

Hahaha you are right!

[@LightGlyphRasengan]

Seth has been excommunicated for years already 😂

[@tvoyelitsoglupoye2326]

​@MOMOHAJI585 if you watch him rope a dope Foreman you'll see him use double knife hands. He would frame with the lead arm and trap one of Foreman's arms with his rear. Ramsey has made an excellent argument that double knife hands are a collar tie. The way Ali uses the double knife hand isn't far off from a collar tie.

[@shilpipandey4537]

​@@MOMOHAJI585😂

[@ajshiro3957]

Some people don't want to admit that Ali would win purely due to the fact that he out weighs Bruce lee by a bunch. We have weight classes for a reason folks.

[@Baroxshitposter665]

That's why i am bulking up (Just Need to eat at my grandma's house for a week 😅)

[@ajshiro3957]

@@Baroxshitposter665 to the buffet XD

[@OliverOils]

also the fact that Ali is FAST AS HELL compared to a small man, his punches+his feet are fast his jab would reach Bruce Lee first before Lee can kick him

[@AaronBaker-g8g]

@@OliverOilsside kick actually beats jab in speed also Ali was only a boxer and thus doesn’t know how to handle a leg kick

[@OliverOils]

@@AaronBaker-g8g Ali's footwork and side way stance could work in a kickboxing fight plus Ali knows how to clinch and hold that's a MASSIVE advantage in a fight, especially against someone smaller Ali himself said that he had a school bully that he beat in a boxing match but said he'd probably get beaten by him in a real fight because his bully is bigger, stronger and can just wrestle him If you want evidence that Ali's stance and footwork can work in a kickboxing fight, look up "Samart Payakaroon" highlights

[@nightangelx1513]

I’m a 5’7 150lb Asian guy who’s been training martial arts ever since I was a kid. As much as it sucks to say unless you have a MASSIVE skill gap, size is usually enough to get the job done. 100lb and one foot of height is a huge advantage. That’s like a college athlete fighting a middle school student.

[@GiordanoFanti]

Wait. Size isn't enough tho. A small trained fighter can absolutely beat a big untrained guy, no doubt. But here we are talking about one of the greatest boxe champion of all times!

[@jagger_claw]

What martial arts have you been training in?

[@Vitor20XX]

What matters more is weight, height will only give you range and it can be dealt easier than someone heavier.

[@iluvcliffrichard]

Ali was 7 inches taller, and 80lbs bigger. Bruce Lee had so.much more skills than Ali. I'd put my money on bruce. I have no favourite or horse in the race. I'm not rich so me picking right person is imperative. Do I think it would be a real hard fight fir bruce? Not as hard as people make out

[@Guile1117]

@iluvcliffrichard just don't bet to much money

[@MC-iq5ns]

The fact that the phrase "Taylor Swift's boyfriend" does not appear anywhere in the title or description of this video is perhaps the greatest demonstration of clickbait integrity I've ever seen

[@Shrapnel82]

I didn't know Lee ever dated Taylor Swift.

[@andresperedo1275]

I don't even understand your comment xD

[@lazerfruit2121]

@@Shrapnel82 Travis Kelce(one of the brothers in the video) is currently dating Taylor Swift

[@tombayley7110]

@@Shrapnel82 his time travel kung fu was the strongest.

[@captainobvious.29yearsago70]

bruce lee and Muhammed ali are already in the title 💀

[@wloffblizz]

Antonio Inoki is a pro wrestling legend, and the Ali vs. Inoki fight is an absolutely fascinating story, even though the match itself ended up being a farce. Definitely worth looking into and maybe even making a video out of it (?) if you can figure out a good way to do that.

[@_Pauper_]

Thank you. Didn’t want to have to type all that

[@Solomon-gc1hn]

Bruce studies how to combine hitting the groin, kicking the knees, combination punches to chin & gouges to the eyes if bruce use jujitsu on ali he would bite his ears off & crush alis balls whenever it is open

[@Solomon-gc1hn]

Bruce studies how to combine hitting the groin, kicking the knees, combination punches to chin & gouges to the eyes if bruce use jujitsu on ali he would bite his ears off & crush alis balls whenever it is open

[@cullex.2851]

@@Solomon-gc1hn Ernie Terrell threw LOTS of low blows towards Ali (the ref didn’t do his job) yet Ali wasn’t phased and proceeded to batter him

[@hannibalscipio10]

This. Ali didn't know how to take leg kicks, and probably wouldn't have known how to defend a takedown. If Li could kick him enough and then take him down, he could win. That assumes that Li could avoid Ali's far superior striking power.

[@NNamesis]

Man! So many people believed that Bruce Lee played ping-pong with nunchucks video. IT'S A NOKIA AD, you guys!

[@benitofranklyn4237]

Bruce Lee couldn't beat any professional fighter, he was a child actor who did a lot of dancing practice, that's why he had flexible legs. He did one and a half year of Kung Fu when he was 17/18 to look more believable in his movies that's all. Bruce Lee never actually trained fighting nor did he ever fight. And yes it is a Nokia Ad, 2but the people a r-worded." Famous quote by some sheik looking dude.

[@524ti]

​@@benitofranklyn4237what about Shaolin monks can they defeat ali

[@benitofranklyn4237]

@@524ti Obviously not, just look some documentaries/read up on them, most training they do nowadays is to be able to do those crazy stunts they do during their shows, sadly. Although fascinating, difficult and in need of year long hard training, they train mainly for their shows and not for fighting.

[@524ti]

@@benitofranklyn4237 what about ancient Shaolin monks who fought real life battles (bare handed sometimes)

[@benitofranklyn4237]

@@524ti Yes of course maybe, but they would have to find an especially big one, who still could rival Ali's speed and endurance at similar seize an weight. Maybe a battle trained Samurai would stand a better chance, since they trained a lot of grappling. There was a real first MMA fight before Ali/Inoki in which Judo Gene LeBell fought boxer Milo Savage, Gene choked him out by RNC, like almost every time a grappler fights a striker. The best chance to defeat Ali would be someone with good grappling, since Ali was such a great striker. Bruce Lee actually watched Ali fights to learn from him.

[@TheElbowMerchant]

French press is a pretty great way to make coffee quickly and easily. It's also an exercise, apparently.

[@dpo357]

😂 underrated comment

[@jasonb9562]

Couple of notes: 1) Antonio Inoki was a pro wrestler 2) you mentioned Ali fought 12 rounds. Back in his day, they actually fought 15. Other than that, love this video.

[@cloudmaster182]

Pro wrestler as in WWE style?

[@cahallo5964]

@@cloudmaster182 yeah but the japanese were heavy into shoot style so a lot of jap. pro wrestlers were real catch wrestlers

[@jasonb9562]

@@cloudmaster182 Kind of. Yes, it was WWE style professional wrestling but in Japan in those days the style was more oriented to being an actual combat sport. They were pro wrestlers but they could actually fight and were trained by catch wrestlers like Karl Gotch and Lou Thesz.

[@TorielloAt170]

@@jasonb9562but the fight was pretty rigged

[@benitofranklyn4237]

I hate how people keep referencing it as the first MMA fight. There was an actual fight between Judo Gene LeBell vs Milo Savage, which was earlier and they actually fought.

[@CyrusMcWin-bd3sl]

Ali was not only larger, but he wasn't just some big *"Gym bro."* He was a world class heavyweight boxer during a time where the fights would go on for 15 rounds; against other world class heavy weights. He was big, indeed, but Ali was very fast with them hammers.

[@tonypeterson5316]

But Ali is just a boxer, not a grappler. Bruce has actually trained Judo for many years. He could actually take down Ali and submit him with an arm bar or a choke

[@blinggzillatv]

@@tonypeterson5316so Bruce Lee would try and run up to and try to grapple some one 7 inches taller and 100 pounds heavier than him? lol bro you’re living in a fantasy

[@ianlassitter2397]

The stats on Lees weight lifting was actually supposed to be in kilos not pounds but was recorded as pounds. Still not huge but much more accurate. He benched around 210 at 140 pounds so pretty good for his size.

[@rickocconnell9056]

That looks like an early record 1964, around time bruce started weight training. Bruce mightve done 6 mile run before that routine too and a 1000 punches. He used to do pushup with 230lbs on his back, so bruces strength was quite impressive to say the least.

[@jagger_claw]

"Tao is a random collection of some of Bruce's notes. No one can learn JKD from there. Even some of movie fight choreography made it into that book." - Thomas Marx [Original JKD Instructor]

[@MoveConsistently]

Eddie Hall vs Neffati Brothers is how I picture Bruce vs Ali

[@benitofranklyn4237]

Bruce Lee couldn't beat any professional fighter, he was a child actor who did a lot of dancing practice, that's why he had flexible legs. He did one and a half year of Kung Fu when he was 17/18 to look more believable in his movies that's all. Bruce Lee never actually trained fighting nor did he ever fight.

[@justinR8986]

I’ve always said Bruce studied jiujitsu, I don’t know if he ever rolled and trained it vigorously but he definitely experimented and used it in his movies, for example in Way of the Dragon Bruce guillotines Chuck Norris to death. I’d say in a street fight Bruce has the BEST chance, being Bruce was not afraid of fighting a little dirty and his knowledge of basic jiujitsu and legendary striking. Just saying on the street Bruce has the best chance

[@rickocconnell9056]

Compared to Ali, bruce has researched every fight tecnique that ever existed.

[@stevo62ful]

@@rickocconnell9056 Copared to Bruce, Ali has loads of proven full contact fights where they are trying to KO each other.

[@GrubKiller436]

To anyone who questions this, you've gotta see Ali vs Liston and Ali vs Frazier and Ali vs Foreman. Ali is a picture perfect athlete who's missing nearly no important attribute. He's not the strongest but he was knocking everyone out in his prime. He has sufficient power, and more than enough to beat Bruce Lee. He's a heavyweight, the most heavy weightclass there is. And also Ali has reflexes, footwork, defensive speed, offensive speed, stamina, chin, and heart. Even in an unfavorable stylistic matchup, you cannot understate how much damage Ali is able to absorb. The only standout characteristic from Bruce Lee is that he can kick. If Ali fought someone who excelled in grappling, that'd be a different story. But someone who is very light and we just add kicking? That doesn't add much. Above all else, Ali can be called a real fighter. He's been in the ring with people who had violent intentions and the actions that went with that.

[@GiordanoFanti]

Ali vs prime Tyson. That's would be a great fight! Also for the fact that Ali was an out boxer and Tyson an in-fighter, i don't really could guess who will win

[@christophernewton8474]

Seth just pointed out Lee was trained in Japanese Jiu Jitsu and Judo, and it doesn't matter how strong your chin is if you're getting choked.

[@psychedashell]

@@christophernewton8474 Ali faught wrestlers and kickboxers leading up to his match with Antonio Inoki, he wasn't clueless about mixed martial arts - the match itself was a s#itshow but Ali's leadup work was no joke.

[@champ1159]

​@@christophernewton8474Bruce had very little grappling training, certainly not enough to handle a heavyweight

[@Guile1117]

​@champ1159 what about the story he beat some Judo guy or some black belt in Judo said he was a great on the ground

[@Ziplomatic007]

Kareem and Bruce sparred together all the time. When interviewers asked who would win in a fight, Kareem just smiled. He knew Bruce would have wasted him. Size is the biggest factor in determining who will win a fight when all else is equal. Ali and Lee were not equal. Ali boxed people for sport inside a ring with gloves. Lee devoted his life to the study of martial combat. I am surprised you are not more impressed by Lee's footwork and balance in his sparring videos. Did you take note of the balance he has when throwing strikes, and see where he has his opponent falling and is hitting him on the way down, all with perfect balance between both feet? Watch his feet when you replay the video. They are 100% balanced at all times. Boxers do not maintain perfect balance between both feet. Boxers depend on a bouncing rhythm with lots of circling and hopping. A karate stance would focus more on moving in and out, like a snake, not side to side. Lee's balance in those videos is almost inhuman. In a martial arts fight with punching and kicking allowed, Lee wins hands down.

[@christianlloydlabanero2832]

Fun fact: the twist in his weight exercise is doing those exercises fast as possible that's why most of the weight there seems "light"

[@christianlloydlabanero2832]

And yes, he did those to make his movements faster

[@zerosensei3963]

Stop glazing him

[@AlexDaeling]

i think its easy to figure out, ali crushes the boxing match. i think it takes like a minutes of feeling out from both of them and ali lands a good hit that leaves bruce open and its over. but if kicks or takedowns are involved in any way i just cannot imagine ali fairs well. hes a boxer, and hes an incredible one. theres no way he wasted time practicing kicking for kicking purposes

[@วิชชากรสุขวัฒน์]

Bruce lee use Sweep Kick and Low kick to ali knees and legs that Over He dont need to fight head on to risk himself with punching

[@AureliusRuiz]

Come on, Inoki, a kickboxer? Inoki was a Pro Wrestler and catch wrestler.

[@wendigobanshee]

I mean against Ali? Inoki turned into a masterclass low kicker 😂

[@shilpipandey4537]

​@@wendigobansheeand that is because of the stupid rules against inoki, that event was heavily biased towards Ali.

[@Guile1117]

@wendigobanshe8904 ya that was something

[@rlinderson]

I was a freshman in high school for UFC 1, and also a new wrestler. My dad got the PPV and we watched the beginning. It was nuts to watch the sport evolve at the same time I did.

[@liammullen2144]

I think a more interesting debate would be: Muhammad Ali's body with Bruce Lee's skillset vs Bruce Lee's Body with Muhammad Ali's skillset?

[@cloudmaster182]

Ali's body with Bruce's skillet 100% of the time. Bruce was way more skilled (or skilled in more things) but a lot smaller

[@Shipdacheese]

@@cloudmaster182 yea there's no debate here

[@AtomicTetragon]

Definitely Ali with Lee's skillset. Imagine Ali landing a jumping head kick on Lee with the size difference.

[@axelstone3131]

Someone as big as Ali wouldn’t be able to move in the same way or have the same sort of speed that Bruce Lee had. What Bruce could do, due to his weight and size, is far more impressive than anything Ali could do. We are talking about a guy who was 5 ft 7 1/2 that could hit as hard as a heavyweight, move like an Olympic fencer and kicked like a horse. There is less than 1% of guys his size and weight that has these sort of attributes. It’s incredibly rare. This is why there are so many naysayers about Bruce Lee. You just don’t see guys this size with these sort or attributes, you might see someone who is fast, or maybe hits hard, but not someone who has all of these qualities combined. And he didn’t compete in sport, so you have to understand this is someone who training was geared completely for survival and not scoring points. It’s a combination of things. Genetics and training like a fanatic 25/30 hours a week for years on end, training in such a way as to train the muscles used to execute the movement/technique more efficiently and explosively. How Bruce Lee trained and what he did was very unorthodox, even by today’s standards.

[@cloudmaster182]

@@axelstone3131 Muhammad Ali's movement was crazy. It's not "someone ali's size" it's ali. Idk if you've seen him box

[@Goiaba308]

Legs has a big advantage over just boxing. Ali would have to tank some nasty shots

[@Birdlegs14]

The BEST professional fighter at his peak vs an actor who is very good at martial arts. It’s not close

[@viniciusdias5887]

Not the best professional fighter, the best professional BOXER. We had other fighters who would beat him from other disciplines at the time, like judokas and wrestlers for example. I am not that versed in Thailand's history but I am sure if we were to search we would find Muay Thai legends that could give Ali trouble or even beat him. It's just that nobody at the time could beat him in boxing and the guys to beat him in a general fight were not Bruce Lee.

[@benitofranklyn4237]

Bruce Lee couldn't beat any professional fighter, he was a child actor who did a lot of dancing practice, that's why he had flexible legs. He did one and a half year of Kung Fu when he was 17/18 to look more believable in his movies that's all. Bruce Lee never actually trained fighting nor did he ever fight.

[@Birdlegs14]

@@changthao4875 ok

[@benitofranklyn4237]

@@viniciusdias5887 In Enter the Dragon Bruce actually does an Ude-Garami, the first submission you learn in Judo, he probably got that from Gene LeBell. But Bruce would be too light and has not enough fight experience to beat Ali. A pro Kickboxer heavyweight with good leg kicks, yes of course. Also long before Ali/Inoki there was LeBell vs Milo Savage, and the actually had a real fight. LeBell choked him out by RNC, like almost always when a Striker meets a Grappler.

[@benitofranklyn4237]

@@changthao4875 In Enter the Dragon Bruce actually does an Ude-Garami, the first submission you learn in Judo, he probably got that from Gene LeBell. But Bruce would be too light and has not enough fight experience to beat Ali. A pro Kickboxer heavyweight with good leg kicks, yes of course. Also long before Ali/Inoki there was LeBell vs Milo Savage, and the actually had a real fight. LeBell choked him out by RNC, like almost always when a Striker meets a Grappler.

[@auuffuulww]

RIP Teila Tuli! I think the world would have preferred to say goodbye to Gerard Gordeau, but that’s life.

[@ssths]

amen to that. FUCK Gerard Gordeau. Rest in Heaven Teila Tuli.

[@chrismaynard8600]

There is a glaring difference that a lot of people overlook, Ali was an elite championship level professional fighter. Bruce Lee was not.

[@axelstone3131]

@@chrismaynard8600 one was a professional boxer who boxed for a career, the other was a martial artist who did it for self defence, which isn’t sport, and there are no second placed trophies on the street.

[@JJ-zr6fu]

Bruce Lee was an actor that paid legit martial artists so he could beat them up in movies

[@jocoolshow]

@@axelstone3131most self defense guys train to beat the average guy on the street if they ever were unfortunate enough to need to Amateur and professional fighters and even people that don’t fight but go to those gyms but drill and spar with fighters all train to fight other trained and skilled fighters A fighting system made to deal with average joes and untrained fighters would only go so far against a fighting system made to beat other battle tested trained and skilled fighters

[@Thesavagesouls]

Ali don't know kicking or grappling so his boxing means sh*t in mma.

[@axelstone3131]

@@jocoolshow heard it all before

[@shamounian]

Also check out the sparring that Bruce Lee and Joey Orbillo had, who is a professional heavyweight boxer who dropped Ken Norton. Orbillo will tell you differently.

[@JeanCaruso-uh3pw]

Hey @senseisethreacts ! I think this was a really good dive into this classic matchup, I think it would be super cool if you reacted to this guy called Togo Ishii; he's like the only legit legit JKD guy i've seen on the internet, and his teacher was supposedly a disciple of bruce lee. He actually does real sparring in his videos as well as demos, dude is crazy fast and really shows the potential of JKD!

[@davidmoseley8043]

It's pretty simple, Martial Arts are War Arts. Boxing is a sport. In the boxing ring under boxing rules Ali would most likely win. Wing Chun/Jeet Kune Do techniques are designed to disable or kill. Take it to the street. Besides talking about these two legends who actually did the work is easy, they are both dead and can't speak for themselves.

[@giant0mantis]

Me when I'm a strip mall karate teacher in 2005:

[@TheMediaJudge1]

Ali Vs Inoki is the 70's equivalent of BJJ memes today.

[@maxcapoeira]

As a Jeet Kune Do instructor and martial arts practitioner for over 30 years I can say that Muhammad Ali wins.

[@axelstone3131]

You don’t sound like a very good JKD instructor.

[@l.k.9666]

​@@axelstone3131 Because they haven't drank the Kool Aid?

[@axelstone3131]

@@l.k.9666 lol didn’t take long for the BJJ guy to show up. Get back on the floor and roll around like an absolute fool.

[@artair70]

@@axelstone3131 There is no "very good JKD instructor"

[@Zozz-tw9vn]

@@axelstone3131Muhammad ali is heavyweight world champion,bruce lee has no recorded fights. End of story

[@the_guitarcade]

As a welterweight, I boxed against a cruiserweight once. We were both 6' tall and I had a reach advantage. For the majority of the first round, I was able to stay out of range and tag him repeatedly. Near the end of the round, he realized that there was literally no way for me to knock him out and just walked me down, and I saw a right hand that was coming over the top of my guard, and the next instant I experienced was standing back up. I don't remember him ever landing a single hit on me, but I had to stand back up multiple more times. That size difference is even bigger. Any time Cassius landed a punch, Bruce's soul would leave his body.

[@johnmichaelcanares2633]

I had the same experience, only I was featherweight and the guy I sparred with was middleweight. He was only a few inches taller than me. Tagged him a few times in the first round because since I was lighter, I was faster. And then he finally decided to power through (I mean he was holding back), I only saw an over hand right at the last second and I was down. It only took one punch. I got hit by guys around my weight before, I can pretty much hold up. And I was knocked down by a guy my weight before as well, but being punched by someone way heavier was different. The world was literally spinning when I got hit.

[@Twostraightwhitemalesreact]

In a ring but let’s make it ufc you would be fucked ground game your done

[@ADU17]

Although I do agree in your scenario, as you are both boxers, the only thing I will say is that as Bruce Lee did train mma, IF he did kick Ali in the legs it would be a long day for Ali. So it would be about who hits who first because realistically if Ali punched Bruce it would be a long day for him

[@GiordanoFanti]

(Talkin about boxing) Well... depends. Generally speaking you're right. But if the shorter guy is pretty strong, if he's fast in fighter with heavy punches things are way different. Don't forget Tyson (and many others) has beat much taller and heavier boxer.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

the right question is, which one of them had a better system of real life self defense to learn from, and obviously that is Bruce Lee.

[@iluvcliffrichard]

The fight wouldn't be as hard fir bruce as people build up in their minds. I don't want to say it would be easy fir bruce as that's maybe being disrespectful. But bruce already did the hard bit in his research and training.

[@stevo62ful]

@@iluvcliffrichard And no proven real fights fanboy

[@RKmndo]

Lee had more than enough power and speed to compromise Ali's lead leg before the boxer would even get close enough to jab. How would Ali fight if he can't walk? Can't get close enough to punch?

[@stevo62ful]

What is your favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ?

[@RKmndo]

​@@stevo62ful What is your favorite real fight of Ali that you have seen?

[@stevo62ful]

@@RKmndo Real fight where guys are trying to hurt or KO each other, as opposed to movie fights ?? Probably Cleveland Williams. Now how about you telling me which fight you saw that Bruce was trying to hurt or KO someone ???

[@RKmndo]

​@@stevo62ful Matches with rules aren't real fights. Try again.

[@icemanespoo2977]

Ali would take it with his combination of reach, power and agility.

[@midnightbat344]

Until he get leg kick 🤷‍♂️

[@Zozz-tw9vn]

@@midnightbat344leg kick isnt doing anything because leg kicking somebody 2x your size is like trying to kick a reinforced concrete pillar that happens to out manuever you

[@midnightbat344]

@@Zozz-tw9vn tell that to eddie hall that take a leg kick from 9 years old and hurt like hell

[@Zozz-tw9vn]

@@midnightbat344 ali wouldnt let bruce lee get that close for a leg kick to happen

[@zaqzilla1]

Ali, because Ali was a world champ. Lee doesn't really have a record of fighting world class fighters.

[@axelstone3131]

“Fight record” lol. Because sport is somehow more legitimate than the guy coming out you with a weapon or 2 other friends. Right..

[@TheReal_GigaChad]

​@@axelstone3131Ali would remove 3 average joes from earth

[@axelstone3131]

@@TheReal_GigaChad Ali never has a real fight. Calm down “gigachad”

[@wambokodavid7109]

​@@axelstone3131you Bruce cultists need to sit down.

[@axelstone3131]

@@wambokodavid7109 you mma cultists and sport fanboys should start a “I hate Bruce Lee” fan club. You should start a Bruce Lee hater club and invitee all the haters on here so you can all congregate and talk bullshit together about how much you hate a guy who did more and accomplished more than you ever will.

[@alchapo5372]

Jason is again proving why he is the superior brother

[@MoveConsistently]

Bruce himself said Ali would beat him. His best bet would be a kick to the you know what, a leg kick or a rear naked choke.

[@axelstone3131]

“Leg kick” lol. Bruce Lee didn’t attack “sport” targets. You aren’t stopping anyone that size with a leg kick. Waste of time. Primary targets are eyes, groin, kneecaps. A hit to any of these places, no matter how big someone is, will stop them. And if the leg is snapped. They will definitely be unable to fight.

[@BRUCE098]

bruce never said that😅

[@axelstone3131]

@@BRUCE098 “I never said that shit” - Bruce Lee

[@BRUCE098]

@@axelstone3131 🙂

[@Mikerille]

Okay, yeah Bruce Lee would absolutely wipe the floor with Ali, even though he’s the greatest, he would get absolutely demolished. Bruce is on record moving before the sound of his movements were, as well as moving as a blur on 30 fps cameras (like literally you can SEE he was moving as a complete blur) I’m sorry but Ali was never even REMOTELY that fast. Bruce uses kicks as well, which are so ridiculously more powerful than arms, for example the general fastest strike (not by Bruce Lee) is about 34 mph, the average persons kick is 65 mph. Bruce’s weight meant very little in this case, speed is the greatest contributor to energy by leaps and bounds, it’s not even remotely close. Ali’s best skill was dodging, but none of the strikes he dodged were even remotely comparable in speed. To put it into comparison, on even the 50 fps cameras in his later films, he was still a blur. At 50 fps (a barebones lowball, since he was a blue to it) is 34 mph, during his time in the Olympics, Ali’s hands can be completely tracked in 30 fps. (20 mph) so plugging in their weights and speeds, every punch from Bruce Lee would generate 474 joules, while Ali’s would be 341 joules of energy. Simply put, with strikes alone bruc lee hit harder, could hit more, and could react faster. Ali stands no chance.

[@posapop27]

😂😂😂

[@twistedstrength.]

Another factor, not mentioned,in Ali’s favour is full contact combat experience. He is used to getting hit and has a very good chin. Bruce Lee was not. Maybe he had some experience taking shots during training, but traditional martial arts had a tendency to not have full contact sparring. That is one of the reasons traditional martial arts masters lose to mediocre mma fighters. They had no experience sparring, especially hard sparring. Mohamed was hit by some of the hardest punchers in the history of planet earth. He did not go down. He is not just some regular big guy. Bruce was a martial artist. Ali was a fighter. One can take an much harder headshot than the other, guaranteed.

[@DAVEEEEEE1217]

This is why I love Muay Thai,a traditional martial yet has full contact sparring and matches

[@jagger_claw]

Again how many hits would Ali be able to take to his eyes,groin & kneecaps?

[@Giganigga23]

@@jagger_clawhow many hits could Bruce take too the chin

[@jagger_claw]

@@Giganigga23From a guy that can generate as much force as Bruce or more, no more than one for sure. According to his students Lee punched like a Heavyweight Boxer, kicked like a Stallion & moved liked an Olympic Fencer. Might I also add that Lee didn't train for much prolonged encounters, for him it was one shot & done; he would only follow up if he had to. "One motion & he's gone" - Bruce Lee "Always maintain the attitude of defeating the enemy with one strike." - Miyamoto Musashi [The Book of Five Rings] "There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare." - Sun Tzu [The Art of War] "His [Bruce Lee] belief that a fight should not take over two seconds was basic to his discoveries. The longer the fight, the more chance for luck to come into play. Bruce wanted to control the outcome, not hope that he was going to be lucky. One of the most important concepts that Bruce shared with me was that you could become a master of a few techniques, but never a lot. He felt that if you could define the elements of a fight and design techniques to directly overwhelm them, then you were developing the ultimate system. If the total list of techniques did not exceed ten, then becoming a master of them was very realistic." - James Demile The reason why Bruce was so distraught after his fight with WJM was because of this, Lee was unable to catch WJM who was running away. It took too much time for Lee to win the fight. After understanding the limitations of his "modified Gung Fu," [Modified Wing Chun] Lee switched to "Fencing with hands & feet." [JKD] If you want to get a good idea as to why Lee switched to "Fencing with hands & feet," checkout my playlist titled "Fencing & JKD." P.S. The 3 primary targets of JKD are eyes,groin,kneecaps & the 3 principles of JKD are simplicity,directness & efficiency. Lee's intention behind his training was to go from point A [weapon] to ponit B [target] as quickly as possible & finish the encounter swiftly. Btw Lee actually took a lot of punishment in a fight in H.K. when he was young, read John Little's book titled "Wrath of the Dragon : the real fights of Bruce Lee" for more information. I think this fight in H.K. was the one where Lee discovered the "reaction lag time." "He [Bruce Lee] discovered that it is impossible to block the punch of a person standing within arms reach if he doesn't telegraph the move. The same thing applies to kicks thrown within leg reach." - Jesse Glover "A study of human reaction time shows that it takes too long for a response message to reach the part of the body that should respond if the attacker is within touching distance. Unless the attacker telegraphs, it is impossible to know when the attack is coming, & by the time it is seen it is too late to move out of the way." - Jesse Glover The average reaction time [to visual stimulus] of a human being is about 0.25 Seconds. If you stand within the touching distance of someone & try to touch them [without telegraphing even if you go slow] that person wouldn't have enough time to react & prevent you from touching him. Also if the roles were reversed & you had to prevent the other person from touching you the result would be the same. Now this is what is called the "reaction lag time." Sorry for the long comment, Cheers!👍

[@emilianosintarias7337]

he beat up ed hart and jessie glover and 1 muay thai guy. he got hit

[@benjaminpujols1914]

Muhammad Ali is fast Bruce Lee is faster plus Muhammad Ali never studied Bruce Lee but Bruce Lee studied Muhammad Ali and took some of what he has and added it to his system of JKD Plus he also boxed in high school no it's not the same but it's still boxing

[@pavelkiselev_youtube]

Good point

[@ChamorruWarrior]

As a BJJ guy who use to rely on my cardio and athleticism… one thing I learned after joining a couple LEGIT competitive gyms is that relying on the other dude “getting tired” isn’t always a thing. Like, Jeff Chan kinda dudes don’t really “get tired”. They DO, but yeah. Some dudes got a LOT of gas in the tank and know how to pace themselves etc.

[@ericrecano8557]

HELL NO Bruce Lee wouldn’t beat Muhammad Ali. Bruce Lee HIMSElF said that Ali would kill him. He’s been quoted on it. Bruce Lee was no fool. He was highly intelligent and a realist. The non martial artists that never fought combat sports and go on Movies NEVER ask how Bruce Lee would do against Duran , Sugar Ray Leonard, MannyPacquiao, …while we’re at it, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler-or even At Heavy weight George Foreman, Holyfield,Frazier??? Those fans keep watching Dragon Ball Z, StreetFighter , whatever. Bruce himself said the size difference alone would be enough to beat him-against a HEAVYWEIGHT that could move as fast as him. These same fans still think the ‘Bruce Lee playing ping pong with nunchucks is real. That’s all u need to know how educated they are on real fighting. And on top of that the greatest punchers in history couldn’t knock out Ali. Bruce wouldn’t do it either. This isn’t even a debate. This is coming from someone that idolizes Bruce Lee. Pound for pound, total athlete, strategist, martial artist, movie star, philosopher, icon.

[@Metallicarule1991]

If you’re talking heavyweight, don’t forget Iron Mike 🥊

[@Charlie_Tea]

Bruce Lee wins. You know it. Bruce passed away 1973 and it's 2024 what's that saying?! Bruce is still winning "Too this day"

[@Ponkan45]

Bruce's only advantage is just kicks and probably some grappling. He'd lose. He even said himself he'd lose. Bruce was a showman and a top class athlete but not a professional fighter

[@stevo62ful]

@@Charlie_Tea What is your favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ?

[@robertpka7228]

I think 5'8 and 141lbs is pretty generous to Bruce.

[@germanshepherdlover2613]

I read that he was 5' 7" and 135 pounds

[@Baroxshitposter665]

13:10 oh damn, that 1st MMA fight Savate vs Sumo Is a shame that the sumo guy Lost that fast only After some Palm strike, i really Wish he could have done at least some headbutt or takedown Is even worst when you realize that people that don't know sumo , use that clip to show that "Sumo doesn't work" while in reality Sumo have a lot to offer as you have shown to us several time Seth. Justice for Sumo! (Why the hell, there Is no Sumo emoji???)

[@RKmndo]

Ali proponents seem to think that a real fight would have to be ended by the most-powerful punches. The most-powerful strikes, especially punches, don't necessarily win real fights though. The most-EFFECTIVE strikes/techniques to incapacitate win real fights. If you punch somebody hard in the shoulder, you may slow them down a bit. If you can merely flick them in both eyes simultaneously, they're your bitsh if you know how to capitalize, and it doesn't matter how big they are. If you compromise a boxer's legs, they're pretty much done against a skilled opponent. If you compromise a boxer's hands or arms, they're pretty much done. These things can be done to them before they can even get within range of punching your head or body.

[@zaluk1041]

It's difficult to say, purely because we've never seen Bruce fight outside of that sparring clip where it was clearly very light and prior to Bruce's main development as a Martial Artist. We've all heard of the sparring rumours and legends he was involved in too. Logically, I'd think the one with the greater skillset and options available to him (Lee) would win, but we can only guess. Ali was a hell of a fighter and mover, and the weight advantage would be a challenge that while less relevant in a street fight, still poses a problem.

[@jagger_claw]

If you wannna know how Lee actually trained & fought, checkout my playlist titled "JKD Dummies."

[@idkwhatthisisforplzhelp3678]

Weight classes exist for a reason

[@CarlySB]

So do sentences. You are illiterate.

[@axelstone3131]

Because it’s sport and the goal of sport is to make the fight fair. Referee, rules, soft floors.

[@jonathanmora8208]

For the reason of sport but still hand to hand Ali would destroy Lee

[@SimplyThatGuy12]

No it's called "pick somebody your own size." I've seen in the heavyweight division where bigger guys get their asses whooped. I could show you fights where there are weight discrepancies by a lot.

[@axelstone3131]

@@SimplyThatGuy12 sports guys don’t underhand the concept of self defence, meaning when that guy who is much taller or heavier than you tries to harm you you better be able to stop him or things are going to end up very bad for you.

[@cosmicnerd4907]

Ali disse em seu depoimento no livro O Kung Fu de Bruce Lee: "Morreu o único ser humano capaz de me vencer", então Bruce dizer q Ali o Mataria, nada quer dizer, apenas expressa admiração mútua. Ali era mto mais pesado, Bruce, mto mais completo e essa seria a primeira vez na vida q Ali se confrontaria com um oponente mais rápido, enquanto Bruce fazia Sparring com Bob Wall e Joe Lewis, mto mais pesados q ele. Aposto em Bruce.

[@OctopusH2O]

Finally someone with a brain 🧠

[@HardingDojo]

Ali definitely wins. Bruce lee has a small chance in striking just off of size and reach, but a way bigger chance if he got him in the clinch somehow and showcased the judo.

[@Taurus791]

No a boxer would not beat a Kung guy.

[@stevo62ful]

What fkg Judo ?? He had very little grappling experience

[@HardingDojo]

@stevo62ful there are photos of bruce lee training in a judo dojo wearing a black belt, if he was indeed a black belt in judo that is a significant advantage in the clinch.

[@stevo62ful]

@@HardingDojo He wasn't a black belt in anything. Bruce's excuse was that "Belts are to hold your pants up"

[@bahissiaga7841]

Bruce lee said he could defeat anyone in a fight he never said Ali would kill him in a fight Bruce lee would have defeat ali in a fight I have no doubt he’s the best martial artist ever live

[@KellerSmith-ig4dp]

Bruce trained in Boxing,judo,tai-chi,wrestling,jujitsu,Karate,Arnes,Escrima,Wing Chun and one of main boxers he watched and copied was Ali.

[@svensvensson2724]

Antonio Inoki was one of the greatest pro-wrestlers ever and a huge influence on martial arts in Japan. Read up on him and be ashamed you thought he was a kick boxer.

[@jw-nz2vx]

He wasn't a kickboxer, but he was a longtime karateka in addition to his more famous pursuits in amateur and pro wrestling as well as Judo.

[@svensvensson2724]

@@jw-nz2vx And he was a politician. What's your point?

[@jw-nz2vx]

@@svensvensson2724 Just that it's no surprise he could be mistaken for a kickboxer by someone who just watched him throwing kicks. Seth should have done more research, of course, but it's not like Inoki was just some shmuck when it comes to throwing good kicks.

[@svensvensson2724]

@@jw-nz2vx Throwing yourself on the ground is a kickboxer move now?

[@wendigobanshee]

​​​​@@svensvensson2724 No but nonstop kicking Ali's legs throughout the whole fight makes a argument for him to be one. Also keep in mind, Inoki wasn't allowed to kick anywhere up the legs. Anyway this is just food for thought tbh.

[@firewalker8052]

Ali would smoke him.

[@jagger_claw]

Highly unlikely.

[@stevo62ful]

@@jagger_claw I don't remember you telling me your favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ? I'm sure I asked you, and you FAILED to reply.

[@davidbarnwell6180]

Muhammad Ali was a professional fighter..nuff said.

[@Sol_Eveningstar]

It would seem that people don't understand a lot about Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali. Bruce Lee's kicks were devastating, they are recorded to be able to move at "118 mph", Ali's fastest punches were recorded at "40 mph", and Mass times Acceleration equals Force "F = M x A". Bruce Lee's legs were about 28lbs, your legs are about a 1/5 of your whole body weight on average, so (M = 0.2 x 140lbs = 28lbs). KE(kinetic energy)= 1/2 x 12.7 x (52.78)^2, KE = 1/2 x 12.7 x 2785.33, KE = "17,700 Jules". Ali's arms were about 13.8lbs recorded so that about 6% of his weight in his prime KE = 1/2 x 6.26 x (17.88)^2, KE 1/2 x 6.26 x 319.77, KE = "1000 joules". Now, even though Bruce's Legs are shorter than Ali's arms it's obvious who has the stronger limb, your legs ARE your strongest limbs you use them the most on a day to day basis if you live a physically active life style(We all know this correct?) Now let's take all the speed into account. Whom is generally the faster person? The smaller one is ALWAYS LEAGUES FASTER AT A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL in general. Ali was very well known for being the phantom that he was in the ring, but Bruce was known for being a phantom in the streets, no one could touch either of them in their primes. So in the ring the only people that ali faced were people of his weight class Muhammad Ali could not be touched my people of his own weight however he would have a much more difficult time trying to catch someone almost 100 lb lighter than him who is more used to having much faster people attack them and they miss. Size matters, but so does speed. Remember that strength punishes, but speed kills. Now on the matter of strength, it's obvious that outside of leg power Bruce' arms would not be as strong as Ali's we don't need any math here. The heavier man is always going to be able to generate more strength. Now technique Bruce takes the game, fact: Bruce had some of the best footwork of his era, he won the "Hong Kong Cha-Cha Championship" in 1958. He is a dancing champion the pendulum stance is extremely difficult to master at a high lvl for a reason, he also practiced Shaolin arts growing up not just Wing Chun, he even started learning Western Style Boxing and Fencing and TKD all of these styles take extreme footwork discipline to master. There are so many other styles that Bruce trained and I'm not even going to worry about mentioning them just keep in mind that Wing Chun is a Southern Chinese boxing system that was literally built for smaller people to fight bigger people and it has techniques that are perfect for stopping Western Style Boxing it would only require the user to understand how western-style boxing works which Bruce does. Western boxing is even a part of his Jeet Kune Do. And whether anyone cares to admit it or not the Chinese are far more particular about technique then westerners are when it comes to western-style boxing and yes I am saying this as someone who started their martial arts journey with western-style boxing first so don't think that I'm just saying this from nothing I am speaking the truth. If they are allowed to fight at full force Bruce could dominate him just as easily as Ali could one hit Bruce. The truth is it's whoever lands the lick first will have the higher chance of winning, and in terms of speed and technique Bruce wins the first draw. But if he misses he's a goner. One is completely based for street fighting that means using what is technically war tactics to incapacitate the enemy, anything goes you could get kicked in the back, or get elbowed in the neck, and kicked in the balls. The other is based off of ring fighting. There are rules however there is a size challenge. So to be honest this is a draw. Bruce's legs are more than strong enough to knock out Ali and Ali can easily knockout Bruce with a punch. They are both Legends and there is truly no point in arguing who can take out who because in the streets we can easily all take out each other all we need is the right strike at the right moment. Whether that is a punch a kick a elbow a knee a headbutt a melee weapon attack a ranged weapon attack or sneak attack... We can all kick each other's asses in the streets.(A 4-year-old can use a small pistol keep this in mind) Be humble, peace and love all.

[@benitofranklyn4237]

Mitsuyo Maeda known as Count Koma (because he put everyone to sleep with chokes) who brought Judo/Jiu-Jitus to Brazil/the Gracies, had tons of MMA fights even much earlier. Also against pro boxers. When Jigoro Kano (inventor of Judo and last real Samurai style Jiu-Jitsu teacher) got old, he sent his 3 best students out into the world to teach the new style of Judo and keep the ancient style of real Samurai Jiu-Jitsu alive, Maeda being one of those students. Maeda was only 1.65m (5'5) but beat the sh*t out of everybody all around the world. Whit out Maeda there would be no Gracies, no BJJ, no UFC and no MMA.

[@BennyBigIron]

I think it’s a far more interesting discussion than most people would give it credit for being, but at the end of the day I just think that Ali could take more punishment and last longer than Bruce in most scenarios.

[@jagger_claw]

How much punishment would Ali be able to take to his eyes,groin & kneecaps?

[@BennyBigIron]

@@jagger_claw likely more than Bruce…

[@jagger_claw]

@@BennyBigIronAgainst Bruce most likely no more than one strike. "One motion & he's gone" - Bruce Lee

[@BennyBigIron]

@@jagger_claw ur a special little guy aren’t ya😂

[@jagger_claw]

@@BennyBigIronMe special? Nah... Lee was special, very special in fact but most people have no clue.

[@tritchie6272]

To me it comes down to this, Bruce Lee was an actor who was skilled in Martial Arts,while Ali was not only alot bigger than Lee,but was also a Professional and conditioned combat athlete. So if I was going to bet (and I never do) I would put mine on the Professional.

[@jagger_claw]

& Musashi was a painter who was skilled in martial arts.🤭😆😂🤣

[@axelstone3131]

Bruce Lee was a martial artist who later became a martial arts action star when he went back to Hong Kong in 1971 and made movies for a year and a half* There. I fixed it for you.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

but Bruce less beat up some combat sports athletes of various style. 1 king of muay thai, 1 karate champion, one boxer and 1 ranked judoka. he also coached a guy to a world championship. he would lose to ALi because of the physicality, not the skills. Also tough guys don't have tough eyes. If Bruce was big enough he would eye gouge Ali badly. People don't realize that when you get a guy that spars regularly and knows how to throw punches to throw thousands of eye jabs a week, that is not some tOo dEaDlY ninja bullshido guy doing it- that is really a game changer.

[@stevo62ful]

@@axelstone3131 Still haven't fixed it for me by naming that proven fight opponent sad little fanboy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 What a fkg numpty

[@TrappyJenkins]

This video should have been 30 seconds long

[@pencilcheck]

it depends on the rules, ali is a boxer, and bruce lee is a martial artists, they play different rules to win.

[@SuperMaryu767]

When it comes to an all out fight with no rules and use anything, good chance Bruce would win since he trained for the street and use anything to win like what he told his wing chun senior William cheung in 1969: "My line of training is more toward efficient street fighting with everything goes, wearing head gear, gloves, chest guard, shin/knee guards, etc." Bruce would use adaptation like kicking to a boxer especially to the knee on down, boxers don’t defend that area. Even Dan Inosanto described jkd sparring in 1970 as "vicious but polished street fighting."

[@stormrhode2330]

I agree with Seth's assessment, but Lee does have a chance if it's kickboxing in a pretty large ring. I'm still giving it to Ali 4 out of 5 times, though. He's not just a big boxer, he's one of the greats.

[@papersamurai]

Bruce was a light weight that never fought a professional bout, or hardly competed in general. I love Bruce, but I'm not even sure if he could have beaten Inoki..

[@axelstone3131]

Sport is sport 🤷‍♂️ he wasn’t interested in it.

[@Strickland_junior]

I think if Bruce Lee got to the ground he could choke him, but I don’t think Bruce Lee could get it to the ground

[@echelon2k8]

When you take out a boxer's knee(s) - their mobility, It's not that difficult to get them to the ground.

[@Guile1117]

@echelon2k8 can you show Bruce taking out a knee though 🤔

[@emilianosintarias7337]

bruce liked single take downs according to dan inosanto, who s a bjj black belt, he took dan down all the time

[@PerunaMuayThai]

At 8:46 I know this sounds crazy but take on faith that I have an eye for these things. That Seth guy has certain movements about him that suggest he could be a real Sumo prospect. I hope he takes it up because I see great things if he does.

[@tamferguson3891]

If we're talking all in .. kicking is a game-changer plus 1 punch can take anyone out. It would be interesting.

[@daltongorden7879]

Purely speculating here, but in a straight boxing match I 100% agree Ali takes it. And even in kickboxing/Muay Thai- style match 100lbs and 7 inches is a hell of a hurdle to overcome. MMA I think the gap closes a little further. I could see Bruce Lee deciding to focus entirely on leg kicks, throws, and submissions in his training camp and catching Ali with something he's never seen before, BUT, I could also see Bruce declaring beforehand that he's going to knock Ali out with a kick or something equally wild, and then getting locked into a sub-optimal strategy. Street fight I think might actually be Lee's best bet. As you pointed out, Lee would absolutely embrace the Dale Gribble mentality. He'd be biting, throwing things, picking up improvised weapons, using gymnastics and parkour BS to maneuver to high ground. And I think with his life at stake Lee would be less likely to showboat but Ali would be less likely to view a guy Lee's size as a serious threat. If I had to go gambler's odds I'd give 30/1 in Ali's favor in a boxing match, 10/1 or 7/1 in a kickboxing match (depending on specific ruleset), somewhere between 5/1 and 2/1 for an MMA fight (depending on what kind of strategy the two of them implemented for their pre-fight training); and 1/1 in the street fight. Mostly because I see Bruce Lee as being more likely to shank somebody with a broken bottle than Muhammad Ali.

[@cloudmaster182]

That makes sense. Bruce Lee grew up in a gang, street fighting. I doubt they were doing weigh-ins or anything before they squared up, so I doubt a size difference would be anything new to him. The main thing would be Ali's skill-set in that situation. Bruce may have faced skilled fighters, and he may have faced bigger guys. But how many times did he face someone that big AND that skilled?

[@uldisparstrauts]

Bruce wasn't a gymnast. He used doubles to perform such tricks in his movies. He couldn't even do a backflip.

[@Guile1117]

​@uldisparstrauts really, I know he did some of his stunts, but im aware he didn't do them all, he had doubles, some people don't seem to know that

[@axelstone3131]

“Leg kicks” 🤣 Bruce Lee didn’t kick legs or hit sport targets. It would be the knee or groin.

[@daltongorden7879]

@@axelstone3131 He did when he was competing in a sport ruleset. And a kickboxing/muay thai style leg kick isn't just a "sport target". There's a reason they're so popular in MMA.

[@subratadhar7698]

Ali was more skilled, battle tested and bigger. Bruce had zero chance.

[@jovanleon7]

One question. Did Ali know how to handle leg kicks? How about stomping side leg kicks made to destroy the knee? Because that's the exact kick Bruce would use with lightning speed and his while body behind it. Bruce is shorter hence closer to those knees of Ali, too.

[@jovanleon7]

Also, Melvin Manhoef, the exact same height as Bruce Lee, once one punched knockout Mark Hunt who was a super heavyweight famous for destroying other heavyweights. And Malvin's technique, speed, precision and timing is like 40% of that of Bruce Lee. So saying Bruce had 0% chance against anybody is just straight up ignorant.

[@kerry-j4m]

AGREED.

[@NexusJunisBlue]

1:25 *Squat Anyone who's sparred or fought competitively knows size and weight matters in a fight. Not only was Muhammad Ali a heavyweight, he was considered one of the "the greatest" (pun intended) heavyweight boxers of all time. Bruce only fought and won at the 1958 Hong Kong Inter-School Amateur Boxing Championships, so he only competed as a young amateur boxer. Case in point, I think we've already learned how a hybrid stylist with amateur boxing experience would fare against a professional boxing champion, at least in a boxing match, with Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor. Indeed, stylistically kicks would be the path to success, but doing that against a GOAT boxer is easier said than done. Bruce Lee's acting career and fighting philosophy were definitely ahead of his time and influenced entire generations of martial arts fans and Asian Americans like myself, but I do think people exaggerate his legacy and abilities to the point where he seemed superhuman, which is delusional.

[@christophernewton8474]

The fact that Lee knows Judo and Japanese Jiu Jitsu and Ali knows how to punch and how to punch and how to punch and basically just how to punch means Lee might have a better chance than even he though. It was just last Sunday I watched a guy who is 5' 8'' leg sweep a guy who is 6' 4'' and completely change the dynamics of a sparring match. Stories of Jigaro Kano fighting sumo wrestlers also come to mind. Size does indeed matter, as everyone over six feet tall who likes to eat potato chips and post on the internet will remind you, but variety is also incredibly important. 60/40 Bruce.

[@Ezekiel-rv3pe]

Agreed both are fast an osoto gari would do wonders to ali

[@Thundarr100]

The question is, would Bruce Lee be fighting in a boxing match, under boxing rules? Or will Muhammad Ali be fighting in a street fight with no rules? Because there is a huge difference between the two. In a boxing match, Bruce wouldn't be allowed to use his feet. And his kicks were a big part of his arsenal. In this case, Muhammad Ali would win. In a street fight, where Bruce can kick and use martial arts techniques that are illegal in sanctioned matches, Bruce would win. Muhammad Ali was an amazing boxer. He could go toe to toe with boxers much larger than he was. However, he was a BOXER. He fought with rules. He had no idea how to block a leg sweep or defend against attacks to the knees. His mind has been trained to strategize a boxing match. A martial artist is completely out of his element. There's a video on KZbin of a Muay Thai kickboxer taking on an American boxer in a boxer vs kickboxer match. The boxer did not fare well. It would be the same thing with Muhammad Ali and Bruce Lee.

[@RexiousX]

Ali was just as fast as Bruce, trumps him with experience & power

[@pauldavis5665]

In a boxing match Ali wins easily, in a random fight on the streets Bruce Lee would probably win since he can do things a boxer has no training in and doesn't know how to defend. Just like an MMA fighter would always have an advantage against a boxer on the streets.

[@scotthullinger4684]

Finally! A guy who actually understands it! -

[@ruatsangapachuau4943]

U missed one very big factor The Size Difference,almost 100 lbs heavier and 7 inch height difference

[@JJ-zr6fu]

You people really underestimate boxing. Look at what Sean Strickland does to people with basic 1-2. Also you forget Bruce Lee never sparred that one video that claims he sparring is clearly a demonstration look at the “opponents” strikes they’re clearly not meant to land.

[@pauldavis5665]

@@JJ-zr6fu Not a good example because Sean Strickland trains in MMA. Even though offensively he sticks mainly to boxing, he still knows how to defend takedowns, he knows how to defend submissions, he knows how to defend/check leg kicks etc. Someone that is just a pure boxer with no training in anything else will be in trouble since the defense for those things will not be there.

[@ruatsangapachuau4943]

@@pauldavis5665 Have you ever seen Bruce lee take someone down or even kick or punch someone in real video footage except for movies

[@Baroxshitposter665]

I love Bruce lee and Jeet Kune Do concept, but people must stop to Overrating him like that How people really Think he can Dodge a bullet? 😂 But Also Is sad that or Bruce Is overrated asf or he Is Underrated asf Very few people actually rating him right ( like Seth in this video, nice job) 👍

[@DaTimmeh]

Governments and Military would have been all over Bruce if he could dodge bullets lmao

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

Ali almost never fought at 236 lbs. At his best (1963-1967) he weighed between 202-212 lbs.

[@gregjackson4117]

The leg kicks are what make this interesting, but the weight difference is way too big.

[@michaelbrown1101]

This misses the main point... Who would win a no rules, no holds barred fight to the death? BRUCE LEE!

[@RRR-is3rf]

Bolo said Ali would kill him

[@stevo62ful]

What is your favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ?

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

I have no idea why people keep asking this question. An actor with a bad back who had no fighting experience worth speaking of, vs a world class heavyweight fighter. Putting Bruce Lee against ANY pro-fighter (or even a modern amateur fighter) is a colossal mismatch. But for some ridiculous reason people keep putting him up against some of the best fighters ever. Nothing whatsoever in Bruce Lee's skillset or experience would prepare him for coming under serious attack from a professional fighter. Bruce Lee was a hobbyist. Not a fighter. It IS 0%, unless Bruce Lee has a gun. Nothing he could do to Ali would realistically hurt him; not enough to stop him destroying Bruce Lee with the first punch he threw.

[@AlexConorFerguson]

Have you watched better call Saul?

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

@@AlexConorFerguson No. I've seen clips of it, but I've never watched the show.

[@Guile1117]

@@seraphinaaizen6278 Bruce did have a gun, he carried one around with him

[@buriedyours]

react to fights from the anime Viral Hit

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

Bruce Lee was an amazing actor. He wasn't a real fighter. He always wins in his movies because that's what the script says. A movie isn't a real fight and Bruce had no real fighting experience. He was basically a professional wrestler.

[@Menelik-yd6ex]

Bruce Lee was a real fighter. There were even times he was challenged to real fights, and the people that challenged him were beaten by Bruce Lee. Also, Bruce Lee started learning martial arts at the age of 13.

[@codyjobe]

The real question is, do you think you could take Ali in kickboxing or street fight? Then theres a question like, could demiterious johnson take ali in a fight? (Which some would debate but in reality it wouldn't be a fight at all. Mighty mouse would kill him.)

[@nobodytoeverybody6902]

Its very weird to think that i watch almost all of your videos to where i feel like i know you, but you dont know that i exist, very odd

[@ReDuVernay]

Parasocial relationship

[@joshmountain9705]

That's a parasocial relationship and can become very dangerous. I'd recommend introspecting on it some.

[@Draconianoverlord55]

How is this even a question, Bruce was a performer, Ali was an elite fighter, end of the story

[@jagger_claw]

& Musashi was a painter.🤣

[@Draconianoverlord55]

@@jagger_claw and freaking samurai master?

[@jagger_claw]

@@Draconianoverlord55🤭😆😂🤣

[@emilianosintarias7337]

no, bruce lee was the real deal and beat up some combat sports athletes. he would lose to Ali for a few other reasons though, size being one.

[@Draconianoverlord55]

@@emilianosintarias7337 yeah he was a martial artist, but Ali was the best boxer of his era, there is no contest

[@berlin990]

People really get bent out of shape when this debate comes up and you remind people Bruce Lee never won any real fights.

[@Baroxshitposter665]

@@berlin990 he won only a boxing tournament when he was to college, or something like that

[@emilianosintarias7337]

what do you mean he never won any real fights

[@stevo62ful]

@@emilianosintarias7337 As in zero evidence of a real full on fight win, where they are trying to KO each other, like we see from Fedor, Stipe, Cro cop, GSP, Andy Hug, Baukaw, Ernesto Hoost, Alistair Overeem and many others.....but not Bruce.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

@@stevo62ful are you good at thinking? the evidence is equivalent given the different profession and different technological era. if a coach/kung fu teacher gets in a fight in the 1960s, witnesses in public, like Bruce's fight with the karate black belt in seattle, are about as good as it gets. The guy wasn't a boxer in madison square garden waving to the black and white TV Cameras

[@kevingray4980]

When you are smaller, the long range strikes like kicks become quicker. The nearest target for kicking is closer: opponent's knee instead of abdomen and thigh, and the liver and solar plexus are closer to shoulder height for punching reach. You're also moving less mass: change direction quicker, and spend less energy during the distance game, which can drag on as long as you want with no rounds or judge's scorecard. Ali would still easily win unless he goofed. Size is a big advantage, but not so huge as some people think. Especially in wide open spaces. I say this as someone who has learned the frustrations of sparring with highly skilled and athletic smaller guys.

[@ericrush-bw3cl]

I remember watching ufc1 live on ppv when I was a kid and was hooked ever since! 💪 👊

[@tomsaint786]

Could you do a series like this , like van damne vs Bruce Lee, Jackie chan vs chuck Norris

[@shinjiikari1021]

Short answer: No. Chinese: 不能

[@RealGigaMind]

😂

[@FluffPuffkotj]

Professional fighter vs actor. This isn't a debate.

[@JohnnyLynnLee]

We actually have footage of Ali trying to deal wit kicks. It's a demonstration and just fun. But Ali DON'T KNOW what to do and is kicked pretty hard repeatedly. At some pint he get up on the ropes jokingly to get away from the kicks. He shows that out of boxing he is pretty clueless. A kicker would have an EASY time destroying his legs. His sense of distance is based SOLELY on PUNCHING RANGE. Even is footwork ended up useless fot him because of that in that bout. He s So with kicks and grappling, that lee knew, Lee actually Lee had WAY more chances than people think.

[@stevo62ful]

@@JohnnyLynnLee Another deluded member of the cult of Bruce Lee

[@JohnnyLynnLee]

@@stevo62ful Just the facts. He didn't fair well against Inoki kicks and according to Lebell himself spent 4 days at a hospital for the bruises in his legs.

[@JohnnyLynnLee]

@@stevo62ful Give him a training camp with very basic training on kicks and grappling and no way. But if the fight would happen out of the blue and Ali ended up in a clinch with Lee and Lee started to knee, elbow and sweep him he wouldn't know what to do.

[@stevo62ful]

@@JohnnyLynnLee What is your favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ?

[@skyislad366]

Maybe some other big guy , but not Ali . No way Bruce Lee beat the heavyweight legend.

[@alexchen5811]

Not saying Bruce was unbeatable, or that he could definitively beat Ali, but I believe his chances are higher. Just search Joey Orbillo vs Bruce Lee. Joey himself admitted Bruce was way too quick for him to touch on the multiple occasions they sparred. Of course, this doesn’t mean Ali would lose. The odds definitely favour Ali, but saying Bruce had zero or low chance simply isn’t accurate either. Bruce trained like a professional, sparred with professionals and people bigger than him, even large and quick people like Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Size alone wouldn’t be the main problem for Bruce, but again, odds are definitely against him.

[@Tondor50]

What would be fun, is they were both incredibly smart and adaptive fighters. I suspect the fight would surprise everyone.

[@Combatlife365]

I think Muhammad Ali would have won, even though Bruce Lee was fast and definitely had martial arts knowledge, I think Muhammad Ali would have won in a freestyle fight. I think that superior kicks would not have hurt and hindered Muhammad Ali, who was certainly fast for his weight. After all, Bruce Lee himself said that Muhammad Ali would beat him.

[@iluvcliffrichard]

I don't believe anyone thinks Ali beats bruce. The reason I say that is because the people who say Ali beats bruce, keep regurgitating the Bruce lee said Ali wins? But no suprise your too scared to admit you know full well bruce said in the ring Ali beats him and in street he kills Ali

[@Combatlife365]

@@iluvcliffrichard Of course, I will not claim that Muhammad Ali would beat Bruce Lee, especially because Bruce Lee had a lot of knowledge and practice in martial arts and I myself read his book, which is also my inspiration in martial arts, and it is quite possible that Bruce Lee would win. But if you take away the myth of Bruce Lee in a street fight, which in itself is very chaotic, where one punch decides everything, and you have to survive being attacked by Muhammad Ali, if you've ever been in a street fight, then you know that high kicks and others attractive moves too often fail in a fight of a few seconds. I really think that Bruce Lee would have a chance against Muhammad Ali, he would have a chance in all formats except boxing, but again you have to be realistic, on the street and in MMA, Bruce Lee would have to have very good tactics and sense to emerge victorious, especially on the street.

[@Guile1117]

@@Combatlife365 agreed

[@stevo62ful]

@@iluvcliffrichard No. The reason you say that is because you are a silly fanboy that believes what you want to be true. Remind me ? what is you favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ??

[@iluvcliffrichard]

@stevo62ful My favourite dinosaur is tyranosaurauscrex. I've not seen it though. John jackson is probably my favourite fighter from the 19th century. I've not seen his fights though.

[@paradyne1T101]

Ali was able to throw 12 punches in 2.8sec..He would indeed be able to catch Bruce Lee with a right straight to the face.. K.O.!!

[@Scorpio111111]

My money is on Bruce Lee in a street fight. Sorry boxing fans but an all rounded fighter who has lived and breathed to be super efficient in a street fight can probably win by an eye gouge or by breaking the opponents knees. Not everything can be won by pure muscle power.

[@jagger_claw]

Ever heard about something called the "reaction lag time"?

[@jocoolshow]

People forget that in a street fight boxers can eye gouge and break knees too. They don’t have to just box in a street fight, they can add their boxing to their entire street fighting game

[@jagger_claw]

@@jocoolshowUnder pressure while defending oneself in the street a sport fighter is most likely going to do what he had always trained to do, which is sport fighting. "You can only fight the way you practice." - Miyamoto Musashi [The Book of Five Rings] Could Just Any Fighter Apply "Dirty Tactics"? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXfLdmaJpNCfp7cfeature=shared

[@axelstone3131]

@@jocoolshow you should watch the link jagger left you

[@jocoolshow]

@@jagger_claw We’ve literally seen fighters (cheaters) apply dirty tactics in the cage or ring before. We’ve seen fighters bite, eye gouge, fish hook, head butt, hit the back of the head, knee, soccer kick or stomp downed opponents, 12-6 elbow, use illegal slams (spikes), or a very specific case with Michael Chandler, blow out the blood from his broken nose into his opponents eyes and mouth etc….all things they most likely wouldn’t be training to do. It’s not as hard as you think. Especially when the easiest time to do these is when you’re in a dominant position which the wrestling aspect of mma helps with. Most people on the street and self defense guys would have a hard time dealing with top pressure Whether you train to do it or not, hitting a roughly 1 inch x 1 inch target like the eyes on someone that’s moving is going to be extremely difficult unless you have certain attributes and build your stance around it (like Jon Jones). The groin is easier to hit, for both trained and untrained. Same goes for the back of the head. Also, people step out of what they’re taught to do what makes sense. You think a Kyokushin Fighter in a street fight is gonna stand in front of their opponent and go for straight body blows and head kicks without sending any hand strikes to the face, for example? Other than those areas, full contact ‘sport’ fighters in general are trained to target weak points and vitals on the human body anyways that would fold most people due to…anatomy I watched the video you sent as well, and to answer the question, no, not just any fighter could apply dirty tactics. But fighters with high enough fight IQ and or creativity can

[@xyr3s]

i think in a street fight bruce lee might win. he's not beyond using anything and everything to his advantage. he'd throw sand, groin shots, he would do anything and everything he can. while i think ali doesn't have that mindset as a boxer. bruce lee's mindset is more of the "use anything you can to not get fucked up" lol.

[@iluvcliffrichard]

Lol, stop being so polite and apologetic. In his day bruce lee was candidate for greatest martial artist/self defence merchant who ever lived, and martial arts is 4000 years old, do the maths how good bruce must've been. Sport of Boxing was maybe 80 years old. The poster boy for martial arts thats existed for 1000s of years isn't losing to a sport boxer that's existed for less than 80 years. For Ali to overcome 4000 years of history is a big ask. Not saying it's impossible for Ali but I have my doubts

[@Eri587]

Bruce Lee trained judo under Gene Lebell who himself had a lot of mixed rule matches and won by submission a lot, so yeah Bruce did know grappling.

[@benephelps]

Gene Lebell also said that Ronda Rousey would beat Bruce Lee in a fight.

[@Eri587]

@@benephelps A lot of people said a lot of dumb stuff during her hypetrain xd.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

bruce beat up a nationally ranked judo champion who outweighed him by 40 pounds at least, jessie glover

[@emilianosintarias7337]

@@UnjustVerdict source is Jessie Glover himself and he beat him up in Seattle, and Ed Hart a heavyweight boxer (obviously not near Ali's level) Lee also beat up. And Dan Inosanto said Lee single legged and double legged him all day. I don't think Lee can beat Ali, but the issue is mainly size, and of course Ali's elite athleticism and experience

[@Guile1117]

@UnjustVerdict I found video of ed hart, but he's only doing wing chun no boxing