Every Saiyan From Weakest To Strongest

In this video, we go over every Saiyan from Dragon Ball / Z / Super and rank them from weakest to strongest. Just who is the strongest Saiyan? Is Vegito stronger than Gogeta? Is Ultra Instinct Goku stronger than Broly?
(Includes information from Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super Anime, and the original Dragon Ball Manga. Dragon Ball Guides such as Daizenshuu, Chozenshuu, and interviews with author Akira Toriyama, or directors / producers of Super are included.)
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[@SethTheProgrammer]

ooh... ooh.. OOH OOH AAHAHHHAHAHAAA

[@windygod1973]

Yes.yes

[@ssj2kabutowari14]

Bruh there was a kid on ig he said naruto was universal and 100,000 ftl that's a bruh moment

[@DayDay922]

Seth some time inna future you can u make a video on Magi😁😁

[@DualOrangePins]

Thank you for this gift, father.

[@Selloutstudios69]

Yusssirrr

[@Just_That_Guy910]

the fact that it can even be argued that SS2 Kefla is above SSB Vegito just shows exactly what is wrong with Super’s scaling

[@wolfgod6443]

Well Shin has always been an unreliable narrator even back in the Buu Saga (especially so actually). Also while Kale did tank SSB, is a sense Krillin defended against it too...Krillin is not blue level and the show never puts him on that level, that was just a confidence booster. Also early ToP Goku (who struggled with Kale) Black's Rose was always ahead of SSB in each encounter. I think two of the major cases for Kefla's strength are a bit unreliable (but can be used if you really want, it's worthy of note but not good enough for me). That said the spirit bomb stomps Black, and Kefla stomps Black. Compared to the arc's fusions though I honestly don't think there is a comparison. I think SSJ2 Kefla should struggle to be on Merged Zamasu's level, and we shouldn't be considering SSB Vegito.

[@MrMidnight007]

I think you meant Broly lol especially since his power level was from the Saiyan Sage but he jumps up to fighting Gogeta Blue lol.

[@vegitodev]

A lot of saiyans in the tournament of power is stronger then Vegito Blue and that’s coming from a Vegito fan but obviously if Goku and vegeta fused into vegito in the Broly movie he would be equal to Gogeta

[@vegitodev]

Σscape it was the opposite way round (elder kai said potaras stronger then fusion dance) but I’m pretty sure it’s because of the rival boost (so if Goku fused with someone who isn’t his rival but is the same power as vegeta the fusion would be weaker then vegito)

[@alieu1731]

Wolfgod 64 x then why did whis agree with him and on to his statement

[@MarkiEdytz]

Imagine how long raditz' hair would be if he went ssj3

[@dreinusgnil8558]

Rapunzel

[@obiegarza1850]

Dreinus GNIL lol

[@bellathedog-fu8ny]

it’d be down to his heels 100%

[@heyyou4786]

Hedgehog

[@Stealthyalways101]

It would be the same.

[@kaiii2112]

Broly has no limitations when in Berserk mode, his first real fight is with two saiyan gods with 40+ years of experience and literally bodied them to make them fuse

[@kaiserquasar3178]

He's probably weaker than UI Goku tbh

[@Irishfrasa]

They slapped him around the whole fight, the problem was he wouldn't stop coming.

[@blackraven8841]

@@Irishfrasa bruh I love Goku's stretch scene with the bamboo cracking before fighting Broly

[@chahehkouadio5166]

It's called Legendary state i think. Berserk form is just Toriyama trying to make a rip-off of the original Legendary supersayain.

[@mrdavisdance]

I'm jusr here to say that anne frank was wrong about you and youre a warrior goddess who is SENSUAL :)

[@TokuNorth]

It's sad Raditz is considered so weak because he was genuinely a really skilled fighter he really only lost because he was outnumbered and outsmarted so imagine how powerful he could've been if he was still alive and trained with his brother

[@qjtvaddict]

He would be utterly broken

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

He was weak tho. The saiyans at that point weren’t disciplined at all yet and just relied on zenkais for strength

[@glassillusion1034]

Yea bro radditz was garbage

[@TokuNorth]

@@glassillusion1034 imagine not getting my point and still being part of the Raditz hate bandwagon...sad

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

@@TokuNorth he was so skilled he got caught in an arm lock by his brother and killed by a supposed “lesser race” and sent straight to hell lol.

[@captainobvious2008]

Gohan is the type of guy to decline an offer to spend some time with his father because of a job offer, but decline the job offer because he wants to spend more time with his family.

[@lookatmynose9788]

@Zen Ara How does one take a shit that is dumb?

[@PoohCrxzy-]

Zen Ara it’s a joke calm down lmao

[@lookatmynose9788]

@@mr.hooligan7630 Bit of a strange time to bring it up, but it is pretty good.

[@mr.hooligan7630]

@@lookatmynose9788 Well, people were talking about wanting more for Raditz, so I thought I should put it out there.

[@lookatmynose9788]

@@mr.hooligan7630 Ah, I see

[@clearspira]

You know what's funny though? At power level 920 Tarble is still stronger than everyone in the original Dragonball series to the point that he could have taken Goku, his crew, and Piccolo at the same time and win. And remember, King Piccolo at power level 200 was strong enough to take on the combined militaries of Earth and not even break a sweat. THAT is how overpowered the Saiyans are - even their weakest bitches can flatten a planet with ease.

[@julienfoussereau937]

Which is why they could even send babies to conquer planets lol

[@KombatW0mbat]

Yea It’s like when people call someone weak. It’s like they are weak in their own series but compare them somewhere else and they are god tier or calling someone strong when they aren’t much further on.

[@julienfoussereau937]

Adam Leslie Exactly, most Z fighters would basically be Top tier characters ( if not the strongest ) in many other series

[@123GOHANZ]

The saiyan race just looks weak when compared to their very best, that being Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. The hybrids are a completely different story as they’ve shown time and again that their innate battle power and potential far surpasses a full blooded saiyan with exception to Broly

[@tyressebell2816]

There’s a reason Raditz got to Earth with the assumption his brother had destroyed the planet

[@edapplederry5888]

Broly in all his appearances felt like a raw diamond that was never cut into shape by proper training. I imagine him surpassing everybody if he had the opportunities that Goku and Vegeta had.

[@celerycelso6914]

That’s such a good analogy bro

[@geigercourtier]

Right like imagine if Broly could read?! Beast Gohan wouldn’t stand a chance!

[@FadedMoswa]

But it kind of feels like brolys strength comes from his animal like style

[@magne7771]

@@FadedMoswa gotta disagree. It's all power. Trying to out finesse him is like trying to judo throw a mountain. Or better yet, it's like trading blows with an avalanche.

[@irisvalencia6675]

Yeah,It just makes it more stupid as how (some) people think UI/MUI Goku beats SSJ Broly even though it was required for the Prince of the Saiyans,The man who surpassed/"beated" "Jiren " (wich is always the Argument they use) to fuse,Go SSJ (X50 times Base power) and then SSJB

[@robertcarsten4050]

As someone who hasn't watched DBZ in over a decade this script was like trying to decipher ancient hieroglyphics. Still watched to the end

[@AVP.2]

lmao

[@Druku1977]

If you watched in on cartoon network, you watched it 47 times because of the dub taking so long between sagas. I saw Raditz 6 times. Ever time a dub ran out they'd restart the whole thing. I could remember the show at 60 years old I've seen it so many times. Oh, I suppose dbza helps my memory too. Watch that to go to sleep every night. Lol

[@bababubatz8351]

Same

[@House.Of.Pain.]

I watched Super and still didn’t understand what was going on half the time 🤦🏾‍♂️ lol.

[@adamtahraoui]

I’m jealous you haven’t watched all the new stuff yet…. Would love to rewatch it all for the first time again. Do yourself a favour and enjoy, then when you come back the hieroglyphs may make more sense 😂

[@AsterDXZ]

Seth: "This video is gonna get bombarded by dislikes" Seth's overwhelmingly positive ratio: "It's a simple spell but quite unbreakable"

[@craeted]

Sucy Q Reported for making me laugh

[@Doulliee]

Less than 100 dislikes

[@kgnightcry8118]

Still didn't like the video, it was well made but near the end it got super confusing on who he was ranking. It went from vegeta at 6, then went class a and I had no idea who the 5 he was talking about were

[@Awoken0]

@@kgnightcry8118 yeah, that was my only complaint as well.

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

Kgnightcry to me it was understandable, but the reason that was the case because Seth had 2 potential scale lines for characters such as vegito blue and M zamasu who changed the list depending on where they was at. So he told us where vegeta was if you argue him above zamasu or if you argue zamasu on par with beerus and where he would br

[@gangsmoggy675]

Remember the simple days when there were supposed to be 4 surviving saiyans plus kid gohan

[@bobbyboy1797]

Remember when Goku wasn't an alien?

[@alexas5260]

@@bobbyboy1797 and piccolo the devil

[@debateyounoimgoingtoethery3676]

Those were the best days

[@skaionex]

Kinda like how superman went from only survivor to there being quite a few lol

[@matrixdeprogrammed1271]

@@denoall Yeah I agree the show has become trash.

[@Nameandaddresswithheld]

I think higher classes are earned through service, not necessarily power level. Kinda like being knighted. Bardock being a rebel likely wouldn’t get any acknowledgement from king vegeta. But Raditz spending the majority of his life helping prince vegeta (presumably bullying the other saiyan youths on the playground before being sent off to conquer) would likely get promoted for being the prince’s “friend” and being competent and powerful

[@thatcher1911]

I’m sorry but anyone who thinks kefla SSJ2 is stronger then Vegito is a clown

[@slinux8420]

In the anime but in the manga its different. We can debate if you want

[@geezerschrist3447]

She is

[@SenatorArmstrong2018]

@@geezerschrist3447 She isn’t. Not even close.

[@geezerschrist3447]

@@SenatorArmstrong2018 even jayren wasn't able to beat her

[@geezerschrist3447]

@@SenatorArmstrong2018 go home and study some more dbz kid

[@usaccdecks8363]

1st half of the video: everything is very accurate and understandable 2nd half: Now It's time to get Funky

[@loganrenfrow2544]

Well that was back when they still used power levels and had more objective multipliers, now we have to use feats and scaling which are inherently less precise and more open to interpretation.

[@superjedi4206]

@@loganrenfrow2544 true

[@joshuachristopher5181]

Where did Gohan go ?

[@tiotoad007]

@joshua christopher maybe he’s thinking of doing weakest to strongest half saiyan’s ?

[@joshuachristopher5181]

Lacktee V haha maybe

[@fukwidgets]

I feel like the reason Tarble was exiled wasn't so much about power as it was about temperament. I would guess that he's at least as strong as Nappa, but he was too kind-hearted to be a Saiyan warrior

[@biology9810]

And his power

[@TheCalvinnnnn]

Sucked that you weren’t clear with your placings. Would’ve been better to just have conviction

[@ZoMTDU]

Meanwhile in DB Heroes, power scaling goes right out the window when everyone in their base form is stronger than Kaio Ken SSJB Goku.

[@jantheking7028]

DB Heroes is a non cannon commercial to get awareness for Dragon Ball Heroes, if you don't like it, dont watch it.

[@zeroxfr6436]

@@jantheking7028 toriyama stated a dragon ball is canon if it’s licensed and heroes is licensed

[@chalkboardganing3080]

@@zeroxfr6436 also heroes has its own manga

[@isajidazmi]

Even Vegito kiaokenx20 can get beaten up by a base cumber

[@zeroxfr6436]

@@isajidazmi heroes vegito ssb kaiokenx 20 would best base dumber 😂

[@tuneablestar1712]

Raditz has one of the coolest designs. He looks like a full armoured samurai with his massive build and long mane.

[@OffDaSenzu]

madara uchiha is equal to raditz comfirmed

[@perksservin]

Off Da Senzu no madara is equal to nappa not raditz

[@Gantz_T]

i totally agree, i wish we saw more of him he’s so slept on

[@OffDaSenzu]

@Whxnder 1. the joke went over ur head. madara his long hair and wears samurai looking armor similar to raditz. so they resemble each other’s looks a bit. 2. that’s false. someone just made that up.

[@Scyther_SCY]

Off Da Senzu its nappa matey and why do most of the dbz fans always wanna say somthing like that i always see people something along the lines of that

[@villainfeatherclover6965]

Honestly i kinda miss Raditz and Nappa they had so much potential

[@elyastoohey6621]

I remember reading somewhere that Raditz power level was so beneath Nappa and Vegeta’s because Raditz was quite a coward, eg begging for his life twice with goku. He avoided the situations that would take him near death, subsequently he didn’t see any of that saiyan power boost they get from almost losing. Vegeta on the other hand was quite the natural talent and pushed hard as a child. Nappa despite being a bit of a prick was also willing to put himself in danger.

[@seanpazdera6407]

The begging for his life thing was a trick.

[@justinjules7303]

I think we can all agree that if Super was well written this would be a far easier conversation lol.

[@JRLSpiderman]

Justin Jules so true

[@infraredtalks]

100%

[@s.a.n_luis5444]

I fw super but I agree 100%

[@poptarte4564]

I liked super but I agree it was eh on writing

[@nostalgianetwork1225]

Agree

[@metalixtheunknown9677]

Raditz claps everyone if he was able to kill farmer with a shotgun, he's nye omnipotent.

[@matejjurcevic7122]

Obviously farmer with a shotgun was holding back, he was playing weak in order to make his nephew Zeno laugh

[@SasukeUchiha-eh1we]

Ramen guy is slightly stronger then farmer with shotgun🤷🏽‍♀️🤣🤣

[@matejjurcevic7122]

@@SasukeUchiha-eh1we a true battle of gods

[@ggamesgarner8027]

Beerus is stronger than Jiren and broly.

[@status7505]

Ha ha ha! Very funny bro!!!

[@obliviongigan6360]

Can't wait to see Seth's newest video, ranking allegations from weakest to strongest.

[@cwinky4660]

💀

[@user-sf1zm9gf3x]

Wait wha? What do you mean?

[@reaper5158]

He already did

[@raziel2854]

Original

[@zev2x762]

Every Seththeprogrammer video is a blessing🙏🙏🙏

[@shekharbhardwaj4766]

kid goku gets hits with a car and just flinches , i don't think i can say the same about adult bulma.

[@ryanred1525]

Yeah she just dies.

[@travis7patriot653]

not to mention she sprays him with an uzi in episode 4 of dragon ball (give or take)

[@Mac348]

She was literally SSB from episode one bro what are you talking about

[@ryanred1525]

@@Mac348 *SHB superhuman blue

[@marybautista8462]

@@Mac348 nah hes ssjbkaioken but the red is invisible

[@ethanperez7094]

I just wish I could’ve seen Nappa go super saiyan with that yellow facial hair

[@ReaSketches]

Wagon Ball lmao

[@jaahithahmad1219]

LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@wolfgod6443]

Nappa miraculously has SS1 in Xenoverse 2 if you customize him.

[@Mapple-qp6yg]

He did in hero’s

[@jaahithahmad1219]

@@Mapple-qp6yg what?

[@BalgaBear]

obligatory REEEEEEEEEEEEEE great video :) the whole saiyan class thing seems to be based off of heritage strength and feats and not individual. you covered so much so thoroughly

[@MountainHomeJerrel]

Great video. I'm just vibing out to hearing this ranking list.

[@mouriqueritchie6851]

Bardock might not be the strongest but he is in fact the BRAVEST.

[@Stxr2006]

Did you just edit this seconds ago? I swear remembering seeing raditz

[@Stxr2006]

Lmao

[@Black_Knight_-BK-]

No kidding

[@danug422]

Dude facing friezas blast like its krillin disc shit 🤙🤙🤙 😂

[@youhaveayds8975]

Hes also a brilliant scientist

[@ricoco7891]

I just have to say this whenever Raditz is mentioned. His whole character is wasted potential, I wish he got a redemption arc. I could see him potentially being the grumpy uncle who trains Goten in his free time.

[@vhnexus9641]

I know him right he was such a wasted character like he’s Goku’s brother! Bing the main antagonist brother is usually going to confirm you as a pretty important character in most animes read it with just a starting villain to lead us to Napa and vegeta...

[@ricoco7891]

@@vhnexus9641 Yeah like if he was just a random guy I wouldn't care. But he's literally Goku's brother. That should mean something to the plot.

[@vhnexus9641]

Sea Raider I know I’m pretty sure it was a video about if he actually join the good side and actually train with Goku imagined if he joins his side and actually train with them was already stronger than him in the first place and having him do the same type of trainings with them would probably make him stronger than Goku even now and Dragon Ball Super!

[@vhnexus9641]

Sea Raider Actually now I know why they cut him so fast. He was eventually going to reach gokus level all the time and always surpass him the reason they cut him is so they don’t have to draw or animate a ssj3 raditz XD

[@ricoco7891]

@@vhnexus9641 haha that would be a nightmare most likely, good decision on their part

[@SupermanAll4U]

Great vid, loved the Hells Bells during Vegeta.

[@blumountian]

Regardless of whether or not it's accurate the portrayal and logic paths are entertaining and thought provoking.

[@lmmnlord4846]

I’m so disappointed Seth. You went through all this work, and left out the strongest saiyan of all, Gokule

[@doom7607]

And veku like wtf

[@tanman624]

I wanted Gokule so bad

[@zanin34122]

Gokule is so powerfull he could one shot all DBZ/DBS villains effortlessly

[@1KQ_]

@@zanin34122 his power is only matched by lord popo

[@shwingcrimson8202]

Bob_Ross229, *thanos impossible meme*

[@n.kelati]

Toriyama: power levels? lol oh right i remember those ... ...

[@jacobponcedeleon8503]

I just got an apple watch

[@njstars3189]

Launch exists so I don't think he'll remember power levels lmao

[@davido247]

Jacob Ponce de Leon ok boomer

[@dregamingz]

@@davido247 don't. Just don't.

[@davido247]

Deiondre Casey ok boomer

[@CS-bh4ur]

Thank you so much for this video 😁

[@anonymous_user2346]

Thank you for all your hard work

[@nickF_CA]

Adult Bulma being higher power level than kid Goku is enough for me to never listen to any power level content from toriyama ever again

[@sidecharacter3193]

That wasn’t from toriyama because it was for a movie only and toriyama isn’t involved in the z movies

[@ogaimon3380]

Lol good laugh tho

[@astroboy6225]

It was a movie power level not toriyama

[@gavinmerasty8369]

Wym this is valuable information

[@ogaimon3380]

@@astroboy6225 all the power lvl data books and shit are trash even the ssj power lvl ONLY WORK IN THE FRIEZA SAGA IF THAT WAS THE END OF Z

[@cheers901]

1st half: hmm yeah this makes sense 2nd half: "universe 6" Ah shit, here we go again.

[@user-pg7hq8un1h]

so it's 8.Zamasu 7.Gohan 6.Vegeta and then who are 5-1?

[@cheers901]

@@user-pg7hq8un1h 5-1 basically includes: 5 - Gods of destruction ( basically Beerus since he is the strongest), 4-1 Jiren, UI Goku, Broly, Gogeta (in no particular order)

[@destroyersfist695]

@@cheers901 God of Destruction isn't a sayain. it was Gohan, then Vegeta, then Fused Zamasu, then Vegito Blue, then Broly, and MUI vs Gogeta is 2 and 1 Class A is: Vegito Zamasu Broly Gogeta and UI (not in order)

[@cheers901]

@@destroyersfist695 oh shit, forgot this video was only about Saiyans. MB.

[@user-pg7hq8un1h]

@@cheers901 but those people aren't sayians

[@carlosadeleon]

I have no idea what you are talking about but I got respect the passion in your voice when discussing the relative value of power level data of some animator-bored characters as listed on the back of certain translation of these flyers.

[@huntermock96]

I think Nappa powered up to 6 thousand closer to the end of him and goku’s fight. Goku states “now he’s getting serious“ basically means he’s powering up

[@belachan6678]

Bardock may not be high Ranked, but he was a brilliant scientist. Edit:aye chill out down there, it's just an ocean dub reference😗

[@uwu_presidente4292]

No no he wasn’t

[@reidikulousgames1727]

@@uwu_presidente4292 I think it was a joke my guy

[@sixx6789]

The very one

[@Thenamelessgod-cz9em]

Bardock???????? No!!!

[@Kai-kx2pf]

I think he was consider a scientist once for creating that solar energy thing

[@mrlloydval2887]

17:16 why are people still talking about this? goku did not take any damage at all from kale when she did that. goku's clothes weren't battered, he wasn't out of breath, his body wasn't dirty at all. he was in perfect condition after that encounter. he held back because he didn't want to evaporate her, but she was stronger than he thought she would be. that's all. also vegeta saw her too. if she was anywhere NEAR their power level, vegeta would have been butt hurt like usual, but he didn't really care.

[@YT-hb8tf]

Facts

[@ShotoTodoroki-ml3ri]

Facts

[@jakealbert2101]

Butt hurt ? I think He would've questioned her power.

[@bradtestdrive]

@super saiyan rose manga kale is some absolute bs and so is manga gohan who could beat manga kefla who was way too overpowered

[@RecruitedAndrew]

yea she did nothing to goku, he just wanted to get her hands off of him

[@SylvesterAshcroft88]

You're a braver man than i for making this video, you have my respect.

[@Jackrabbitt247]

Yea, the universe 6 saiyans piss me off heavily but this was a great video my friend, your intellect is appreciated and favored over most in my opinion. 💯

[@LordYamcha]

Every new character is a prodigy or has some incredible power for the sake of being a challenge to Goku

[@MAR-sc7np]

Toriyama and toei be throwing that word around a lot.

[@xmenrock2000]

Yes like all of dragon ball character frieza, gohan, cell, buu, and every new character in dBz

[@primalvelocity3811]

Dragon Ball has to keep going somehow.

[@treemane0]

I call that lazy writing dude. Dbs litteraly retconning themselves and using shit writing to make up for it smh

[@tnmblonewolf8799]

Goku himself is an OP prodigy who can learn new techniques and abilities almost instantly so of course it would take someone of that status to beat him.

[@davidlor972]

Number one, the secret sayain, the The Black Sayain. MR. POPO

[@davidlor972]

@thereal MCPM Or is he???😱

[@frisby7143]

Popo....? 5th RULE OF POPO'S TRAINING

[@chironace9516]

@@frisby7143 never call him a black man

[@radexyz-fx8ix]

@GORDON LEHRKE how is he a simp it’s just pewds unless he changed it

[@coolerreviews6580]

Pecking order

[@yourneighborhooddeadpool488]

Personally I think that Broly is the strongest Saiyan because of the fact that he was born with such a high power (I believe it was a power level of 10,000) and with him not even having any sort of training and being able to have a fair fight with Gogeta, who both have had numerous amounts of training. My opinion is that Broly is the strongest.

[@deanmcmillan_3010]

Gogeta was toying with Broly

[@mdljungberg3294]

Bro gogeta was abusing broly

[@yamenomozore7470]

He did not have a fair fight

[@biology9810]

He did have training it's just it was really shit training so unless those monsters on vampa can solo kid buu broly is broken.which he is

[@ohok823]

@@mdljungberg3294given enough time broly would’ve grown even stronger than gogeta, and gogeta knew that, that’s why he was going for kill shots once he went SSB

[@leedledee1724]

Every time vegeta pulls out his Final Flash Enemy: Oh that’s cute, he called it FINAL flash. I’ll just block it ju- *Final flash gets close* OH SHI-

[@lookitStevens]

If I had a top 10 dbz moments, the times when Vegeta gets hype and does the Final Flash would be 5 of them.

[@sanrac3860]

Vegeta: BIG BANG ATTACK Cell: Aww, how cute he named it, OH SHI-

[@darkboomer523]

DBZA/TFS reference ??

[@darkboomer523]

@@sanrac3860 it was Final Flash

[@dxckswinger8486]

@@darkboomer523 yes

[@apimpnameslickback83]

Broly has raw power without any real training and they had to fuse to beat him. So imagine if Broly had real training like Vegeta and Goku did

[@shizachan8421]

The good thing about the current movies compared to the old ones is that they are current and incorperated into the Storyline of the Manga/Show, so I think we might see Broly again. I could see him possibly showing up when a new tournament of power starts, considering that we know that the first one included the weakest universes. I don't think that Toriyama would hint at several universes even stronger than everything seen at the tournament without showing them to us.

[@user-dc4yr2ev5h]

@@shizachan8421 Yep I think Broly is stronger than Goku and Jiren or atleast has the potential to become stronger than them. Imagine if he trained with whis. He is the legendary super saiyan after all.

[@shizachan8421]

@@user-dc4yr2ev5h Depends on which Goku you mean. When it comes to Super Saiyan Blue Goku, absolutely. He was already evenly matched with him in his Rage Form, which due to being the Oozaru power we know its just a multiplyer by 10 while absolutely dominating in his Super Saiyan Form. If we talk about Ultra Instinct Goku, no way. He would absolutely be defeated by him. I also think that at this point he is probably also much weaker still than Jiren. Though at least if we can trust Gokus Assessment, he might be stronger than Beerus in his Complete Super Saiyan Form. But then again, Broly is all pure talent, instinct and strength, no technique or control. Its even crazy how you can see it in the movie very well, Vegeta and Goku are clearly utilizing martial arts while Broly just throws punches. Even just learning basic martial arts probably would increase Brolys power by alot, because it would teach him how to use his power efficently. Though I don't think he will be trained by Whis, at least not immediately. His first trainer will be Goku himself and I think after the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc, he is in the perfect place to properly teach Broly, because now he learned more about Justice, which I think is something Broly needs to learn as well. I also don't think that Broly will ever learn Super Saiyan God nor Ultra-Instinct. I think both would be antithetical to his concept as THE legendary Super Saiyan. What I could see if Broly gets a permanent place in the series is, that he could be also utilized to make Super Saiyan 4 Canon. He re-introduced the Oozaru and the idea of utilizing the Oozaru in a human form after all. So his personal transformation being the Super Saiyan 4 form would be very fitting, him mastering the legendary Super Saiyan Form and then also learning to control his Oozari powers. Interestingly even, Broly in his Wrath State has yellow eyes, similar to Goku as SSJ4, so maybe this was done purposefully. Though I think if Broly is used to introduce SSJ4 into Super, I could see it done with the slight design change of making his fur green instead of red to fit his overall color scheme.

[@WillieManga]

Just as well, imagine if Karoly existed in Dragon Ball Super. Fusion fans might recognize Karoly as the fusion between Kakarot and Broly, but Goku only was able to fuse by force since Broly lives for Goku. But since Broly is otherwise friendly with Goku in the current continuity, the fusion would be much more well-intended. He'd pretty much be the Universe 7 version of Kefla, and of course he would be unstoppable to near anyone except Zen-Oh

[@andilesangweni9039]

that is the reason he isnt shown as much and will never be shown a lot because of the dbs super movie of broly THAT MOVIE RUINED BROLY FOR ONE MAIN REASON. as you have stated he has sheer BOWER enough to beat (post top goku and vegeta) but since they buffed him up so much he has the potential to beat beerus and everyother god of destruction in like 10-20 years because he “learns as he fights”

[@Coopersboy7]

I really wish they would have kept god power more sacred. Maybe let characters get close but ultimately berrus still overwhelmingly powerful

[@jonaskeepauthor1935]

A detail that may clarify where goten and trunks sit, when gotenks was absorbed by super buu his appearance was displayed as super buu displays the appearance of the strongest person he has absorbed, after the fusion wore off super buu displayed the appearance of piccolo indicating that neither goten nor trunks was stronger than piccolo at the time.

[@mugenspiral]

Seth: We're not gonna talk about the games Also Seth: Just know TB Bardock slaps everyone. Lmao love Seth

[@sssddd4812]

I mean if we compare TB Bardock to any canon saiyan?? Yeah, he slaps them hard

[@58jn89]

The Saiyan's should have won and kill Frieza and protect their own planet. What if the Saiyan's survived and won against Frieza and his men and Gine which is bardock's wife and also Fasha become princesses like Saiyan Disney princess type in a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? Do you guy's to see Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses an a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? How do you guy's agree with that idea that Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses?

[@maltheri9833]

@@58jn89 I'll assume this is a troll and say this made my head hurt.

[@ultrainstinct4060]

The Gohan Anger theme music in the background is just **chef kiss**

[@ViewtifulBeau]

Vegeta isn't the strongest (much to our frustration) Sayain but he's definitely the embodiment of them and my favorite. Whenever I hear Sayain, Vegeta is the first person I think of.

[@NeverAfraid7]

I think Beerus downplays himself. Just a feeling, that he's way stronger than he leads us to believe.

[@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere]

There's no need to speculate that that's pretty much been confirmed by the manga just look how easily he annihilated all the other gods of destruction

[@xepfal884]

@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere literally the creator said we haven't seen close to beerus full power and that he beats UI goku

[@penguingameplays6253]

@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere if i remember correctly toriyama or toyatoro said that goku was 7 beerus was 10 and whis was 15

[@TheExtraordinarySaiyan0709]

@@penguingameplays6253 Yea that’s the God scale it was created by Toriyama when Battle of God’s the movie came out it’s not canon to use the God Scale anymore…

[@spikegilfer1997]

Once Gogeta goes blue, he never gets hit again.

[@Taima]

Definitely on the high end of most disproportionate ass whoopings in history

[@Starkill3r1126]

Which begs the question, how do you think Gogeta would have fared against merged Zamasu?

[@theconmantube3449]

Braden Russell would’ve erased zamasu instantly

[@whiskerypants1576]

@@Starkill3r1126 he would defuse even quicker than vegito

[@SubtoCain]

I think that vegito and gogeta on the same level but gogeta being a little stronger but if they were to fight I think vegito would win cuz of the time limit But gogeta would pretty much handle zamasu the same way vegito did

[@omnipepper3665]

The strongest saiyan is the one who created the Full Nelson

[@donovantheplayboy599]

The yemma lock is a variant of that move

[@katleho366gmail]

Bro I was watching TFS Goku Full Nelson😂😂

[@PacisJusticia]

Black Panther taught it to him after his success against Silver Surfer.

[@58jn89]

The Saiyan's should have won and kill Frieza and protect their own planet. What if the Saiyan's survived and won against Frieza and his men and Gine which is bardock's wife and also Fasha become princesses like Saiyan Disney princess type in a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? Do you guy's to see Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses an a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? How do you guy's agree with that idea that Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses?

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

Broly’s potential is probably higher than Gogeta though. 1 Years in the hyperbolic chamber or even SSJ blue Broly would be absurdly powerful.

[@sidecharacter3193]

This isn’t arguing potential Just who shows more power

[@ieatfoodtolive8360]

Broly won't be able to go ssjb, it's because it ruins the point of db franchise, I bet he's gonna end up like Gohan who had higher potential than Goku and Vegeta but never got to utilize it

[@mrdavisdance]

knock knock whose there its ME here to warn you about A N N E frank

[@ChromedDomes]

So what? Gohan has more potential than Goku, is Gohan stronger than MUI Goku?

[@default3623]

@@ieatfoodtolive8360 Hopefully he gets hakaied or however it’s spelled before that happens so his legacy is preserved and can’t be resurrected by dragon balls

[@thebadbandito]

I don't usually watch DragonBall videos but this one seemed intriguing.

[@Mauricekaip]

Doesn’t even mention Pan. She must be S tier. Edit: I am talking about Z or Super Pan. Also thanks for the likes!

[@rantranger1527]

Holy shit just realized once DBS Pan is older she can one shot GT Pan

[@raikaria3090]

@@rantranger1527 DBS Pan can already fly into space and survive. She probobly oneshots GT Pan already.

[@n3onnova564]

I dont think he mentioned gohan either

[@Paragonscales]

@@n3onnova564 Gohan is able to tie Kefla

[@n3onnova564]

Albania wrld Playz when did he say that

[@jackfletcher8361]

When it comes to kefla vs vegito blue, another thing to keep in mind is that vegito de-fused against zamasu because he was literally too strong for the earings. (He wasn't even full power by the way) Kefla never had this problem and she clearly went all out against UI Goku. So in terms of power alone, vegito is way above kefla

[@Test-ht5hj]

dont the portara have a time limit of 1 hour for non gods? Kefla defused way before that timelimit although this could be argued that UI broke the earrings (which is weird since if thats all it too to defuse then someone like vegito would be a lot less threatening) or the Grand priest forced kefla to defuse once she was knocked out

[@jackfletcher8361]

@@Test-ht5hj They do have a time limit but Trunks was surprised why they defused since it hadn't been an hour yet and that's when the supreme Kai explained them overloading the earings. I always assumed that kefla's earings broke because they were something that was put on after the tournament began and the zeno only transported the fighters that started the tournament. Like anilaza, they didn't stay fused when they were eliminated because they didn't enter the tournament fused. I hope that made sense

[@RecruitedAndrew]

base vegito/gogeta alone destroys ssj2 kefla

[@yessirrrrr_daddy]

@@Test-ht5hj the timer was shortened to the extreme power I believe is what they said

[@vlsracks]

This means nothing when you realize it was a draw when she fought gohan

[@vanteal]

The moment Goku went SS for the first time power levels became absolutely irrelevant.

[@ticool_1]

Fr

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

fr fr. the only number for power levels that actually impacts your understanding of the story beyond that point is which number super saiyan transformation you are

[@superflipbros.]

Great Video

[@Kyrism]

We can't debate who is strongest because we can't understand what he's saying

[@danielmallory4687]

Perfect plan

[@SasukeUchiha-nw8oj]

1. Goku 2. Vegeta done

[@SlapKenn]

THANK YOU!!! I thought it was jus me...

[@Naokarma]

I've read this like 7 times and I still don't understand what this is supposed to mean.

[@Kaezo]

@@Naokarma he’s saying Seth is talking to fast

[@Alehandro191]

My man Gohan can't even make the screenshot and he's the main characters son, still makes me sad how quick they wrote him out

[@flesheater9722]

Gohan was always my favorite character

[@shizachan8421]

@@flesheater9722 It makes sense though. Gohan never liked fighting that much and he only did it if he had to to protect earth and his friends. He predominantly wants to live a normal life.

[@jjjk24]

Hard times make strong men. Easy times make soft men. Gohan is a perfect example.

[@faux4780]

@@jjjk24 lol, what? gohan probably had it harder with seeing his friends and family die many times over, but okay.

[@eric3d2b]

@@faux4780 It's Dragonball, they get better. Death isn't really high stakes when the character's basically go "Eh, have to summon the Dragon" When one of their friends dies.

[@Skystrike70]

Rage Vegeta should kinda top the list as a temporary character - if he uses an amped desperation attack, he never fails to floor (or sometimes literally shred) his opponent.

[@MP-lz1xb]

can't wait to put my hands on the PHD you are going to write about the subject, lol

[@aqua.animations6210]

Raditz killed farmer with a shot gun so he’s automatically stronger then Zeno

[@merus9220]

Aqua Nodes LMFAO

[@PWYSY]

Naw grand Zeno is a very small estimate

[@vexxiam5329]

I actually think farmer with a shotgun faked it cause he was enraged and if he punched raditz the universe might have exploded

[@phantomzz3886]

But farmer with a shotgun is still alive he was seen sometimes after the Raditz Arc

[@unfairkibbles3226]

During the beginning of super after BoG Goku is dressed as a farmer. Because the farmer is training him

[@DarthStalkers]

"Goku ends up beating Jiren with no difficulty" I think he found it pretty bloody difficult, even when he won.

[@eoplex]

Yeah i agree

[@balkisudangiwa8806]

Actually MUI Goku bested Jiren with no difficulty he only found difficulty in UIO.

[@user-pm9ev3up5t]

Not really Goku Overpowered him with his increasing speed and Strenght to the point where Jiren wasnt even able to land a single blow on him even though he was at the advantage when he broke him limits

[@balkisudangiwa8806]

@@user-pm9ev3up5t Yeah MUI Goku was the one who completely decimated Jiren Full power Jiren was on par with UIO Goku hut when Goku went MUI it was a wrap.

[@professornova1236]

@@balkisudangiwa8806 Not really. For the majority of the fight Jiren and Goku were swapping hands. He overpowered goku in a beam struggle and knocked him out of his aura twice. The only time Goku overpowered Jiren was the last bit.

[@CarryoutCrusher]

The messiest , fastest most confusing video but props for taking the time to make it for us

[@FaustofInsanity]

Like the fact you added in the you added in the Phantoms. They don't get enough spotlight.

[@LuizFernando-cu2xy]

When you stop to think about it, most saiyans were disappointing considering how strong they can become

[@Thomas20Smith]

When you pretty much die at the rate in which they did, it’s understandable why the Saiyan’s never reached their full potential but I do get where you’re coming from

[@hihi-nm3uy]

@@Thomas20Smith disagree saiyans had thousands of years of evolution under their belt, but all somehow fell under 10,000 - them being alive any longer wouldn't have changed anything a popular fan theory suggests this happened because of frieza's oppression; which i personally agree with

[@leirbag1595]

My personal theory is that Goku and Vegeta just had the perfect circumstances to grow that strong, while the ones before them didn't. Think about it. A Saiyan who recovers from near death gets a massive power boost, right? That's awesome and all, except that if you do not have a healing pod of a Senzu Bean nearby, you're just gonna end up crippled or die from your injuries anyway. As such, primitive Saiyans could only grow stronger slowly as they fought. As for the likes or Raditz and Nappa, for example, they weren't sent on missions against very dangerous opponents, and I think it was deliberate on Freeza's part.

[@majungasaurus6814]

Thats exactly why frieza destroyed them, if they are alive like vegeta and goku, frieza would be killed much sooner

[@majungasaurus6814]

@Andre Ricardo Bryant it doesnt need to be vegeta, and sooner or later saiyans would only keep getting stronger so if frieza didnt do it hed 100% be killed

[@Manuel-tb3ew]

The fact that he put Tora in the thumbnail and not Bardock hurt me on a spiritual level.

[@lilrice7865]

LOOK closely 😊

[@jacksonbrown6576]

@@lilrice7865 I am

[@lilrice7865]

sorry that's Brolly

[@lilrice7865]

I'm so sorry

[@KombatW0mbat]

🤣🤣🤣

[@robdonovan2782]

Fun. Thanks for this.

[@TylerDurden-yt6pv]

Maybe how much of a zenkai boost you get from each time you recover is hereditary maybe some sayans don't grow at the same rate other sayans do after recovering from an injury

[@sageyt3743]

actually no disrespect to anyone who thinks otherwise but i am personally quite shocked anyone thinks MUI goku isn't the strongest saiyan o.O

[@ec9807]

fact not including fusions that is

[@redgamer2596]

@@ec9807 emm mui goku is unpunchable so ??

[@spaceface8504]

@@redgamer2596 when was it said he was untouchable?

[@kyledea187mdkjr5]

Red Gamer he’s not unpunchable. Jiren was able to hit him

[@one_king3889]

@@kyledea187mdkjr5 and he's supposed to get an even stronger mui if u follow the manga u would know

[@artsyjoe94]

Vegeta: Let's see how you like someone rank everyone in your race, you probably won't make top BILLION!

[@58jn89]

The Saiyan's should have won and kill Frieza and protect their own planet. What if the Saiyan's survived and won against Frieza and his men and Gine which is bardock's wife and also Fasha become princesses like Saiyan Disney princess type in a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? Do you guy's to see Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses an a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? How do you guy's agree with that idea that Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses?

[@godhood9416]

Jaime Nieves stop it man.

[@kibbypro5962]

@@58jn89 stop

[@ineedtosleep5613]

@@58jn89 what?

[@58jn89]

@@kibbypro5962 The Saiyan's should have won and kill Frieza and protect their own planet. What if the Saiyan's survived and won against Frieza and his men and Gine which is bardock's wife and also Fasha become princesses like Saiyan Disney princess type in a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? Do you guy's to see Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses an a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse? How do you guy's agree with that idea that Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses?

[@Junnsfr]

I thought you were overreacting when you said the scaling was messy but this is on a whole nother level

[@fabulous101o3]

WELL DONE

[@ChadKakashi]

I'd love to see your less gentle list of all Saiyans.

[@tomball7811]

Yes!!

[@gtbshaden1520]

Me 2

[@lapplandkun9273]

well, vegeta is definitely god tier gentle

[@ChadKakashi]

@@lapplandkun9273 I doubt Vegeta's position would change.

[@neffrious3312]

Imagine if when nappa goes super saiyan 3, he gets a long cartoonish mustache and gets a beard that touches the floor.

[@emeroxo]

It would only be applicable of the same applied to King Vegeta.

[@jithinperayil7899]

We are not talking about his potential

[@doctorsnakeeater1997]

Doesn't he have a SSJ3 form in Super Dragon Ball Heroes? Could've sworn he does in the game. Same as Raditz.

[@runtergerutscht4401]

@@doctorsnakeeater1997 god, if Raditz goes super saiyan 3, his hairs will just become a yellow carpet, turning him into a blonde rapunzel

[@Legacysong2012]

@@runtergerutscht4401 what if Raditz’s hair gets shorter each stage of super saiyan

[@stephenaccaius1878]

I’m watching this now. So late. Seth, are you happy with how much they have boosted Bardock’s power (atleast seemingly) in the manga currently?

[@kevind6723]

I don’t understand why anyone would get upset about this list. I disagree with some of the rankings here. I love discussing this kind of stuff, but why get heated about it. And I love this video.

[@tylerlee8531]

Low-key got lost in this list like 7 times in the 2nd half, due to not mentioning who was what rank and moving everyone everywhere due to hypotheticals

[@jibrael5705]

I still don't know who the top 5 are, and who 8 and 7 are

[@kianpotts6489]

Yeah, where exactly did Gohan come in on this list? 😂

[@Camm0Blue]

I'm sitting here watching while eating a sandwich and see him rank Vegeta C class and I'm like oh shit, what the fuck is gonna happen here! Then it's just word salad I'm trying to keep up with it and before I know it says, "thanks for watching comment down below what you think!" And I'm like what the hell? I didn't hear him say one rank or B/A class at all lol.

[@yorgfigure6164]

Eaxctly who did he rank number one lol

[@yomama629]

yeah it makes no sense, and what I do understand seems to be completely wrong. How the fuck can SSJ2 Kefla be stronger than SSB Vegetto when she's not that much stronger than SSB Goku

[@uhhhwhat6581]

“Bombarded with dislikes” Dislike count: 46

[@zanatrenwessonperry4035]

88 now oof good tho

[@GioPDaBoi808D]

113 now

[@JaredOviawe]

123 now

[@jefferythomas7543]

175

[@GrowingDownUnder]

that's only because he left out dragonball heroes which is a legit part of the dragonball franchise

[@arisblack-jz6jh]

Man i wish there was a part 2 of this tier list i would like to see cumber in it

[@israelcortes6714]

This dude said “we are using bardock from the special cause he’s a lot cooler” I can’t disagree with that statement

[@zerogoodcontent7293]

Mr Popo is the strongest, remember the pecking order

[@balkan2pac]

You, the dirt, the worms in the dirt, *Censored*, Kami, and Finally Mr. Popo

[@uuddlrlrabsmhm8430]

Farmer with shotgun.

[@uuddlrlrabsmhm8430]

@William Poland He blacc, Bulma ain't never coming back.

[@donovandelaney3171]

Bardock's power level is higher than ten thousand. Bardock healed from Dadoria's mouth beam attack. Bardock's power level is the same as his Great Ape power level. Bardock's true power level is 10,010.

[@domski7598]

funny how power levels are ridicilous now that goku could literally touch bardock with a flick of a finger and it would kill him

[@rashidrai5472]

Nope

[@daikon3199]

Ha...

[@akiyoroberts7074]

Th-thats over 9000 impossible

[@adoptmefand8054]

Theories...😏

[@Buxtonarmyy]

I love dragon ball even though all I ever watched was dbz and a few of the movies I hardly understood a thing still a great video lol

[@imb4928]

You should do a updated version of this video since we have wayyyy more content now.

[@kronnorkronnor]

this is the one time, in my entire life where i am genuinely afraid to voice my opinion. and that includes political stance

[@cdgshockz]

Honestly, its so hard to actually measure the strength of characters in this show. Power levels were helpful for probably 1 second before it became obvious they were broken. I just wish that toriyama made a list himself, but some people dumb enough to still disagree and debate.

[@jakea3950]

Dont worry Only thing you need to remember is Broly is the best based on lore and not plot armour.

[@rogue9230]

@@cdgshockz remember when 1000 power level meant something now we are up to number we don't even have names for yet sheesh that just shows how far they come from training on the beaches to training with the gods

[@Supahdenning]

@@cdgshockz Toriyama would make different lists on each day you ask him to be honest

[@marblemadness8870]

A person's political stance is dividing the country. All your DB opinion does is anger a relatively small group of nerds.

[@ryan_9253]

“Only if ssj2 kefla is stronger than vegito blue” thats a nice joke btw

[@emanueldargan]

This is making me think Patrick is smart

[@alieu1731]

Not a joke if its easy to prove,which it is and he did in the video

[@klol-ld8jr]

Alieu but then he come to a conclusion that vegito is a lot stronger than Kefla read kid

[@kka8249]

Lol they changed how u get super saiyan they made from determination or s emotional reaction to ITS A FEELING IN UR SPINE

[@emanueldargan]

@@alieu1731 yes it is kefla will be murdered by base form vegito

[@stephenmartinez1]

I loved cabba and vegita’s relationship in dragon ball super. How cabba refers to him always as “master.”

[@Deverosfear]

I always thought that the Saiyan class system was two pronged first it takes the class of your parent and the power level at birth. Raditz for example was born to a low class family but was born with a moderate power level making him mid class he became quite powerful before the destruction of Vegeta but didn’t improve after that. Any Saiyan who was too powerful for their parents class or to weak for a high class, would be sent to a planet where the low born would be intended to die and high born would be stronger or die. High class saiyans also retained their position with special training such as the great ape control and power ball. Had bardock continued getting stronger the high class saiyans would probably have arranged for him to die off world so that he couldn’t cause issues as he had already surpassed the mid class Saiyan standard.

[@bradleyjohnson8376]

Honestly, if broly is given the opprotunity to grow and adapt his power, he would beat anybody. Hes THE legendary super saiyan

[@rotary_mullet319]

Anybody might be overkill, but he would be VERY powerful.

[@t.b9054]

@@rotary_mullet319 yea might not beat everyone... (coughs) farmer with the shot gun

[@rotary_mullet319]

@@t.b9054 That was implied :)

[@erick4676]

But he wouldn’t beat mui goku

[@deshawnn-9690]

@@erick4676 yes he will.

[@jt0l3r]

Gogeta has way more combat experience than Broly. Vegeta and Goku together versus a kid that was raised beating up giant bugs. Not fair comparison. No training, no knowledge of transformations, everything was new to him. He figured out on his own and adapted to their fighting styles on the fly. Broly = true legendary saiyan.

[@destroyscenefags]

Facts they even said in the movie they alone cannot defeat him. Fusion or die basically.

[@one_king3889]

I agree but u forget the fact that he was learning while fighting lol he was getting his ass handed to him at first by vegeta then vegeta getting his ass handed to him by broly lol

[@amdcrafto7686]

That is one of the reasons why Gogeta is stronger than Broly

[@cham9480]

If you think toriyama actually thought about that when writing this then you’d have higher standards for writing then he did

[@jenovaloz3108]

THANK YOU!!!!

[@GENIUSABILITIES]

Please bro I really enjoy your videos can u make jiren vs broly from your opinion. I would appreciate that

[@mybigwillie6153]

I heard that at the end of his life Bardock had a power level of 10k. And the insane thing is that og Broly matched that as a baby

[@Bfuxnuapfn]

It's really funny how Seth's high Iq is legitimately trying power scale dragonball when the whole powerscaling system in dragon ball just doesn't make any sense lol

[@Spartavian]

How can u make sense of this? Ssj 2 Caulifla & Kale surpass the Ssj Gods , who they made a movie about a decade after the show ended, because they got tingly feels in their backs. DBZ Battle of The Gods & RoF movies reduced to below the level of tingly feels in your back. The entire Anime up to the ToP Reduced to less than Tingly Feelings in your back. Tingly Feelings > DBZ legacy + Ssj "Gods"

[@crown926]

@@Spartavian correction: tingly feels + marketing

[@ipotatosenpai7002]

@@Spartavian fook no I don't buy it,

[@ipotatosenpai7002]

@@Spartavian caulifla can NOT be stronger than SSJ3 Goku

[@vegitodev]

ipotatosenpai man I wish ssj3 Goku was the one to beat kale and caulifla