Sexual Assault & Psychology Ft. Ali Ilyas | 002 | TBT

[@yafrakhan]

Why does he talk about class so much? Are we living in the colonial era? Ali makes a great point at 17:29 and muzammil went speechless. Class has nothing to do with the prevalence of crime, in fact so called ‘upper class’ tends to use their influence to hide the crime

[@116darkshooter]

I've been absolutely loving these podcasts man. I've already gone through like 3 hope you don't stop making these.

[@tubaseher4960]

It's kind of weird to watch the first podcast between you two after having watched all the recent ones. I can actually see how chemistry between you two have developed over time. I picked it through body language and the podcast over it ;)

[@forreal2009]

Muzammil’s questions were sooo important and well put. I’m glad there’s a channel which is soo intellectually stimulating

[@muhammadhumzasajjad4783]

It was a good conversation Ali Ilyas had this "psychologist's tolerance" towards the new ideas posed by Muzamil. He did not deny anything but also didnt give in blindly to so many facts which were new for him. This, I believe, is the reason for this podcast to be a palatable "bilateral" conversation, rather than a unilateral flow of facts and information

[@emadkhan3994]

I can show you thousands of comments in English condemning Aurat March and linking it to the rape of that woman. but yes Urdu waly are actually the lower middle class and not the WOKE PEOPLE. WOW.

[@alphafish4756]

Yeah I found that a bit weird too

[@maazmustafa2322]

Bas puri qom hi jahil hay phir. I'm against that march, but how can it lead to a rape of a woman?

[@alinashahid2744]

👏🏼 Looking forward for more conversations. When he said simple answers to difficult questions, i felt that. 😞

[@alphafish4756]

You both have done a tremendous job touching on very important and prevalent topics that we need serious conversations and education on, through out the social classes! However, you have to be mindful of the victims and the crime committed against them with a punishment that serves 'justice'. Rehabilitating sexual offenders, mainly rapists means the system has failed the victims! Recovery and rehabilitating is crucial in our prison systems for most of the crimes but some do not deserve rehabilitation. The studies conducted in the west are merely a reference for us but does not reflect the complexities in our society, just like death penalty! The solution is not the punishment itself but its a much broader education and informed changes on a mass level that are required but the punishment is justice served to the victim, even that is not enough! Rehabilitating sexual offenders, yield how much of a guarantee that they will not offend again? Time and time again its seen happening in the west that the rapists end up committing offences again (not rape), also, we find loophole in researches where the perpetrators were not arrested or the victim did not report or you have the plea bargain to a non-sexual offense. Thus, the laws of Allah have hikmat in them, laws were ordained to us to maintain the law and order in the society and it does not have to align with four witnesses, that is a made up law that has no basis for rape crimes in Islam. And, we need research. A lot of it. Researches conducted from Pakistanis on the ground level because the society clashes are high and researches concluding to something on a different continent does not necessarily mean we can draw conclusions from them or base our actions/laws on that basis. Thank you.

[@faaizerk9068]

Ali ilyas needs to start his own podcast or something

[@VoxBoxpk]

Like the fact that you took this topic up. However, there are certain things that one need to include if eye opening conversations are indulged in The listener should not feel that the speakers and/or the experts are living in a bubble! You have touched this issues from a very social media feedback perspective while the ground realities are different. You have mentioned in your first podcast that you have briefly lived in Karachi and it was so suffocating for you that you had to bail. Hence its important to understand the concerns from all sorts of people who are living in very different circumstances and don't know anything better. Very happy that you were leading the conversation, however your guest Mr. Illyas still has to get a lot of exposure and experience in his practice to be able to talk on issues that has different dynamics with different characteristics of the society. Furthermore, no worldly knowledge no matter what statistics its based on, local or western demographics, can be applied universally. At the core of every person there are 2 entitles, one is his worldly presence and the other is his spiritual. And many factors are responsible to keep these in balance. One should do a self analysis if he has done enough to feed these 2 entities. Don't want to touch the religious aspect here, but that is a very important factor, as you yourself has given credit to the Almighty before yourself for your success. 👏👌

[@eshashoaib8418]

What’s your point?

[@forreal2009]

Sooo informative. Thank u Muzammil, u r doing such a great job

[@ourdaes0]

Make more of these please especially with this guy. These are very informative

[@aligulpanhwar9282]

Bro What you're Doing for Pakistan is really remarkable

[@vivianamir6735]

So well put! Really needed this perspective on things

[@iqballalani6931]

With due apologies Muzammil, I would request you to allow the guest to speak. I think there is too much interruptions during conversion. You need to act as moderator and extract more from the Expert on the subject. Otherwise your podcast is good.

[@mbtk6855]

Love this conversation. Thankyou for putting out this content. 🙌🏽

[@eshashoaib8418]

Your questions were good but I want to listen ali more carefully without interruptions . He couldn’t complete his point many times . It’s better to dig out his opinions

[@talhaaziz9214]

I'm a University student & condemn your attitude towards Urdu. Why are we as a nation so obsessed by English ? Please visit China, Germany, France & Turkey, if you have inferiority complex regarding your national language.

[@bakeista6970]

What is the netflix show you said about in the video related to psychology? Please share the name

[@shahzaibhassan2302]

mind hunter

[@hamzashah9543]

Their is nothing wrong with death penality. My right to life is no more or less then someone else to take it unjustly. If someone do so he losses the right for his own life.

[@naeemakamran9947]

The best conversation...plz we want more podcasts to get the clear answer about the death penalty as I'm also confused about the death penalty(punishment) like not in favour of but at the sametime I think its imp bcz may be is something is going to do wrong may be they can be stopped by thinking of the result k agar esa kiya tou is ki saza kya hai and I personally think k negative reinforcement honi chahiye....

[@emaanjaved7260]

3:45 What do u mean by ''Urdu mein likh rhe hain''? Offended!

[@MonstarAsher]

Yeah. That pissed me off too. I'm all for getting kodern educations but this is not it. This is mental colonialism.

[@emaanjaved7260]

@@MonstarAsher Whi to....... One may have graduated from Britain, but what if he writes in Urdu only for his love and respect for National Language!?!. They think Urdu speakers/writers are backward, illiterate, while speaking English makes them sound ingenious. Huh!

[@yafrakhan]

Seriously what the heck was that?! When will we come out of this Urdu/English complex?

[@atharali1027]

Yes same.

[@atharali1027]

These idiots think that Urdu is lesser then English.

[@Ejazahmedbotanist]

Hello I am student of Hazara university Mansehra yesterday you were coming In over university

[@maryamgul5499]

Finally a reasonable stance💜

[@hashirmoghal]

Literally I was thinking about pubg incident from the very beginning, & then it came 🤣

[@usmanhi89]

Huge misconception here which got me for a second there too: you DONT need 4 witnesses to sanction an indictment for sexual assault I.e rape

[@usmanhi89]

That requirement is for adultery. Please don't confuse the two and try to take a jab at unadulterated shariah laws

[@TBTGO]

tribune.com.pk/article/9484/rape-fallacies-of-the-four-witness-requirement Hudood ordinance was the law I was referring to. Please read the above article to understand how it was sold as Shariah Law and created the problem of 4 witnesses in rape cases. Actual Islamic law categorically differs with the Hudood laws which is why eventually the Government of Pakistan decided to get rid of them.

[@nawalasimkhan1869]

According to the Islamization process of Zia you were required to provide witnesses if you were raped and many times women were imprisoned because they couldn’t provide witnesses (obviously)

[@maazmustafa2322]

@@usmanhi89 He meant the laws Zia ul Haq made. Zia and Pakistani mullah's version of sharia. Not actual Islamic sharia laws themselves

[@amnamukhtar5633]

No doubt the conversation is awesome... But lemmi ask why this person is vaping though out the podcast?

[@sheezanaseer7532]

Ah! The bitter reality 😔 Keep doing this. 👍🏻 May Allah bless you ♥️

[@Ejazahmedbotanist]

I am a student of Mass communication in Hazara university Mansehra I have a KZbin channel and my channel view are not increase whats reason please guideline me.

[@marghuzar3397]

3:45 "Urdu mein likh rahe hai lower middle class log" you lost me there as a follower and subscriber. Work on your mindset .

[@shahanaj6227]

you work on your mindset first bro....you dont always have to go to extreme...unfollow krne ki kya zarorat itni c baat par....agreement disagreement chlty rahy gy...critisism bardaasht krne ki power honi chahiye...lower middle class ko english nahi parhni aati and that is true and you know that..or ye aik class ki bt ha and classes do exist or isko negative lene ki koi zarorat nahi

[@abdulhadi2495]

@@shahanaj6227 I can't understand your motive by saying lower middle* class can't speak english.

[@zaini4118]

Joe Rogan of Pakistan.

[@TBTGO]

😍

[@Ejazahmedbotanist]

I am interested in motivation your looking Good please one more time coming in Hazara university Mansehra

[@Football_club9]

Aeez Raza ko invite karyn

[@danishmuhammadfarooq1770]

doc asked me and wife..miyan biwi hafte mai kitni dafa milte hain..and i was like roz..aik hi room mai rehte hain toh mil bhi lete hain. my wife had to shrug me and give an eye contact she means sex we have on weekly basis :P we still joke about it.."aaj milna hoga begum?"

[@aimamustafa1143]

👐👐

[@emankardar5019]

❤✨

[@ehs5531]

اپر کلاس کے جو ڈرائیور ہوتے ہیں نا انکو سب پتہ ہوتا ہے کہ گھر میں کیا ہوتا ہے۔لیکن بیچارے چپ چاپ اپنا "کام" کرتے ہیں۔ کچھ خوشی سے کچھ مجبوری سے۔

[@Platyhelmenthis]

💕💕💕

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[@amanshabbir1921]

کیا مطلب اردو میں لکھ رہے ہیں ۔۔۔۔ Offended

[@atharali1027]

Shallow arguments bro . Dislike

[@talhaaziz9214]

I'm a University student & condemn your attitude towards Urdu. Why are we as a nation so obsessed by English ? Please visit China, Germany, France & Turkey, if you have inferiority complex regarding your national language.