Fight Scene Autopsy: Mulan - IT'S WORSE THAN YOU THINK. . .

[@ignatius7812]

NGL Shad's not just flluffing his own book, Shadow of the Conqueror magic is so well rounded, it feels like a puzzle you can only solve by reading the book. Vs most magic systems that is just pulling stuff out ones ass. Now if only I could get more books by Shad....

[@iratevagabond204]

The real question is, can he adapt his magic system to an RPG system like Harnmaster, Rolemaster, or Runequest/Mythras?

[@ignatius7812]

@@iratevagabond204 I trust him with every cell in my body

[@crusadernikolai1996]

The Name of the wind is a book with a magical system that was very scientific if I remember correctly... it’s been some time since I’ve read it

[@iratevagabond204]

@@crusadernikolai1996 Just did a cursory glance at it, and it looks like an interesting series and magic system.

[@ZacoLV]

Shad is the master of logics lol try Cogent and youll see

[@Gargorok.]

She discards her metal armor because she learns how much stronger her plot armor is

[@moosemuffins2191]

Mulan thinks she's a mordhau maul man. However she isn't

[@Bubben246]

Or she's a Monk

[@OwO377]

This is what happen when to much plot armor through out the movie.

[@Captaincory1]

@@Bubben246 i was going to go DND logic with unarmored defense and say maybe barbarian, but, after looking into the monk class in the PHB as I hadn't looked into it beforehand, with her skill set the monk class makes more sense

[@Eidenhoek]

NO My *sister* was yelling at that, and she doesn't care about things. NO

[@Ariverfish]

"I hate the live-action Disney remakes." - Sun Tzu

[@mandowarrior123]

@@thundermarkperun1083 only a dancing girl when they don't follow orders and laugh.

[@penginlord9396]

"Sun Tzu said that! I think he knows a little more about film reviews then You do pal because he Invented it!" -Soldier, tf2

[@kylemarthaller3920]

YES

[@kohinarec6580]

Sun Tzu would never say that. Your social credit has decreased. Purchasing of noodles not allowed.

[@bonercat3059]

@@mandowarrior123 this is funny considering that sun tzu actually train or suggest the concubines to know martial arts or drill them to use weapon in order to protect the king.

[@Atheismisareligion]

"dishonor on your script, dishonor on your plot, dishonor on your director!" -mushu 2020 'gone but not forgotten'

[@akaniotevanos9861]

**In the Arms of an Angel plays**

[@bandit6272]

They lost me when they cut Mushu. Best part of the movie. RIP in pepperonis little dragon

[@lekhaclam87]

Dishonor on your cow!

[@forestwells5820]

@@bandit6272 On it's own, it didn't lose me because I heard talk it was meant to be "more true to the original legend". Having no idea what the original legend was, I was willing to see what they did with it. Then I heard about other changes made, and each one drew yet another sigh.

[@punbug4721]

Dishonor on your choice of filming location too.

[@gcewing]

29:12 This makes perfect sense. The archers were so exhausted from holding their bows taught for 30 seconds that they couldn't shoot again for the whole battle.

[@adityanegi1604]

Underrated comment

[@schyleringram7279]

Precisely what I was thinking during that part. "Why aren't they firing again" "probably because they fucking can't lol"

[@florians9949]

They dislocated their shoulders after the first colley.🤣

[@ericstephen1036]

😂

[@E-6969]

911

[@andyz2861]

“Never fire more than one arrow. If you can’t kill your target with one arrow, why waste ammunition?” - Not Sun Tzu

[@mustard4762]

True, you should just use one arrow to check the distance and if you can kill the enemy at that distance

[@gamelandmaster3680]

@@mustard4762 But they were in range! They could have fired more than 1 arrow AFTER the test shot. Even if they fired 20 arrows they would almost have a 100% to kill a guy.

[@mustard4762]

@@gamelandmaster3680 gotta check first

[@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947]

"If you are going to eat a bland banquet it is better to just eat a perfect mini-burger " -Me.

[@steeljawX]

Actually, I checked my equipment that was issued to me. It lists me as an archer with a "bow and arrow." Singular. Meaning once it's gone, I'm screwed. . . . . . . Didn't know that Red Army Supply syndrome was running rampant before the Red Army.

[@Adam-xf6sq]

Original Mulan: **struggles** **almost gets kicked out of training** out of desperation to protect her country she tries to climb the stick again. Wait... maybe these weights aren’t meant to be obstacles. What if I tried to use them to climb instead. New mulan: climbs a mountain with no struggle at all because she can.

[@rebeccawhittington8979]

that's why I love the original Mulan. she wasn't amazing straight off the bat, she had to work hard to get there.

[@scout360pyroz]

@@rebeccawhittington8979 not to mention she is never unrealistic in what she does in the OG. its a mixture of skill, tactics, cunning, a bit of luck, and a realistic level of physical fitness that lets her pull off everything she does in the original. she never tries to fight the main bad guy, who is far stronger and skilled than she is, head on. Or his army, for that matter. instead she controls the battlefield via affecting the environment or by denying the enemy their target, if I remember correctly. why fight an army when you can use an avalanche? why fight off an elite group of assassin/bruisers when you can just use your own elite group to snatch their target away and force them to fight you on your own terms?

[@rebeccawhittington8979]

@@scout360pyroz exactly. She uses her brain. She thought the whole avalanche on the spot when she saw the reflection on a mountain peak in her sword (if I remember right) and realised she could use it.

[@Mattsimilate]

They basically just turned Mulan into another Rey.

[@franconunez925]

Also, another thing I liked is that her group started as a bunch of idiots at best and assholes at worse, but after she showed how she's willing to give effort and discipline into becoming a warrior, the team passed from a bunch of imbeciles to a actual group of soldiers and comarades willing to help each other(or at least that's how I remember it), meanwhile in this movie... between her plot armor and being the CHOUSEN JUAN! She is just her own army.

[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

Well, obviously from Shad’s example, the Chinese archers were only able to fire one shot because after holding their bows for 31 seconds, most of them had hurt themselves too badly to fire a second shot after holding their bows drawn for that long.

[@joshaviahbidania7517]

Yeah... and they couldnt fire more arrows because they focused their training on hand to hand combat instead of whats useful

[@janluus9590]

Why not just start pulling back 10 seconds before firing? Could that work? Then they could fire 3 shots

[@joebomb1019]

They could probably do better, considering they're shooting at a group of enemies

[@squiddler7731]

My headcanon is that the witch character achieved self-awareness, realized she was in the live-action Mulan remake, and took the arrow as an out. Also yes I laughed when I watched that part too

[@abloodygenderfluidmaniac979]

Yessssss

[@soniasun2692]

This is now what I believe and no one can change my mind

[@ansrfururactions]

"death is better than imprisonment"

[@sodreir.8666]

Me too, while the rest of my family was crying

[@Delta285]

"He who moves first controls the enemy." Sun Tzu would say "Let this general be dismissed."

[@sternis1]

It would have been interesting if the film-makers would have studied The Art of War in preparation for this film. Surely it would in the Chinas interest to present the teachings and tactics of Sun Tzu in a good light, because they fucking WORK!

[@tomraineofmagigor3499]

@@sternis1 they were too busy thanking the leaders of concentration camps for that. Disney is just fine with human rights violations!

[@medallion2836]

the rule is, not to besiege walled cities if it can possibly be avoided. - sun tzu

[@couragew6260]

@@medallion2836 Example: Why attack the castle, when the supporting crops are outside Just Divide and Conquer like Napoleon... Divide and Conquer was from Napoleon, right?

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

@@couragew6260 It's an old strategy, but Napoleon used it often and effectively. Scipio's attack on Hamilcar Barca, preventing a link up with Hannibal comes to mind.

[@popularopinion1]

"Did they expect the audience to be bloody stupid?!" Well, it's Disney, so...

[@davidlarson242]

Stupid people usually think of themselves as brilliant so yeah, they think everybody else are morons

[@memelover6917]

@@davidlarson242 ah yes the dunning-kruger effect

[@davidlarson242]

@@memelover6917 Sure is and the studio acting as they did is a prime example of how it can cost millions of dollars

[@tomo-gq2tq]

The kids that watched the original are grown up now

[@philtkaswahl2124]

A lot of recent Disney TV cartoon series have had better plotting than this. Whoever directed/wrote this has no excuse.

[@inasaira8380]

it bugs me so much that she just threw away her father's armor. theyre not a rich family, what was she thinking?

[@susanothegreat]

If you take a good look at it, its brand new armor, most likely issued to her in the camp. This implies however that she threw her fathers armor away as soon as she got checked in

[@inasaira8380]

@@susanothegreat omg thats even worse. holy shit the disrespect.

[@amieleoliver9119]

She's SO upset about losing her father’s sword, but doesn't even blink at ditching the armor

[@marshmallowvampire8503]

Honor my ass

[@XiaoFury]

Because woman.

[@ineffable0ne]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" - Captain Leeroy Jenkins.

[@LamanKnight]

That would have been a great punchline to the original Leeroy Jenkins video. After all his teammates die, and they say, "Leeroy, you are just stupid as hell," he could respond with the mighty words in his fantastic, iconic voice: "He who moves first controls the enemy."

[@RanMouri82]

ROFL! Perfect!

[@Pangora2]

Napoleon?

[@alexs6746]

“Just run in and kill stuff” -leeroy Jenkins

[@florians9949]

@@Pangora2 the difference is that Napoleon actually attacked his enemy. Not leaving a perfectly defendable position and then wait for his opponent to catch him is a disadventageous terrain.

[@sevenproxies4255]

Remember the original Mulan when she triggered the avalanche with a rocket and it was actually more believable than tricking her enemies to turn a freaking trebuchet and counting on them missing by a mile? Serioysly Disney... What happened to you?

[@Richard-mo1nc]

I loved that scene in the animation. It really honours the lesson from Sun Tzu of defeating your enemy without having to fight. Mulan literally did a one shot (entire army!) one kill.

[@sevenproxies4255]

@@Richard-mo1nc I know right! It was also pretty bang on the money in terms of realism. I mean, even IRL they purposefully trigger avalanches in mountain ranges using explosives. The only thing i'm not entirely sure of is the historical accuracy of the rockets themselves. But I seem to recall that ancient china did use such weapons at one point. But even if they didn't it would still be plausible on account of the Chinese being one of the earliest makers and users of gunpowder. Also, the scene with the avalanche itself is still one of the best action scenes in any Disney film. That moment when Mulan went over the cliff edge still on her horse, with Mushu. The Cricket and Shang, firing a rope arrow up to her friends while in mid fall off the cliff. I swear, that moment in the cinema first time I saw it, my heart stopped for a moment! :S Except for Shen-Po's superhuman strength in pulling them back up to safety, no damn magic crutches were necessary for the awesome scene.

[@gohunt001-5]

@@Richard-mo1nc One shot multikill*

[@alexblake5369]

Not to mention the setup/tactics was just so much better. For starters the battlefield is consistent (as in it's on a mountain, during snow season) and Shang isn't stupidly leading his vastly smaller force to their death in a suicide last stand. No after discovering the remains of the main army, Shang is smartly trying to locate the enemy forces while at the same time repositioning his own tropes into a better tactical position. Now normally you would send out scouts to try and find the enemy first before repositioning your forces but you can argue that Shang knows that time is not on their side and the enemy must be getting close to the capital so he makes a risky decision of trying to do both at the same. A decision that brilliantly backfires when one of the rockets misfires, alerting the enemy to their position. With retreat almost impossible in this landscape Shang then makes the only logical decision, Prepare for a suicidal last stand with a focus on killing the enemy leader.

[@arnowisp6244]

@@alexblake5369 Don't forget the decision only backfired because of Mushu. (Still love him)

[@TheCoffeeKramer]

I still find it funny how the live action adaptation is less realistic than the original animated movie.

[@jacobitewiseman3696]

Yeah Cinderella at least tried breaking the lock apart.

[@andrewshraga7301]

Legit tho ... The scene where they are singing and marching and then bam massacred army ... Mulan picks up the doll ... How much is conveyed in a few seconds ... The real cost of war ... The more you sit and compare scenes of struggle and sacrifice from the animation to the live action the more ridiculous it gets ... I actually like those stupid ridiculous martial arts films because they are stupid and you don't have to take them seriously... If they'd called this crouching Tiger hidden Mulan and not claimed any relation to the animation it would have probably worked fine in that genre ...

[@captainace8295]

A lot of live action films/movies are less realistic than animated shows/movies

[@GaneicMehiro]

@@andrewshraga7301 Yes I watched one recently that just escalated the further into the movie it got, started with simple fighting and ended with people that could fly, make frog stances and one could even fly. it was great, hilariously fun to watch because of the silliness because it was intended.

[@andrewshraga7301]

@@GaneicMehiro it wasn't kungfu hustle was it? thats gold

[@hamhobo123412]

Commander: ARCHERS ANOTHER VOLLEY Archers: Sorry sir I only brought one arrow with me.

[@sijigs]

All the army only brought one .. one arrow

[@braindead5283]

Someone thought they had the 'Infinity' enchantment.

[@mustard4762]

@@braindead5283 probabpy forgot to enchant

[@petrgrebenicek1067]

Nah. They couldn't fire second arrow, because their muscles get wasted by that 30s draw holding. They are like: Ahh the back pain, please end my suffering.

[@petercselik5674]

"One out of two gets a bow. The one without follows him! When the one with the bow gets killed, the one who is following picks up the bow and shoots!" - the general kinda ahead of his time

[@badzombies2003]

My god, this makes Totally Accurate Battle Simulator look hyper realistic in terms of it's combat.

[@jaegercat6702]

So it makes it look… totally accurate?

[@sidire6892]

Haha

[@maybeghost1216]

You could already read it from the title of the game

[@bobrock6438]

Saying i played through TABS that is pretty bad.

[@chartypeplays2396]

At least TABS has internally consistent rules that it follows.

[@st.salton4024]

The witch couldnt stand the movie anymore, thats why she offed herself

[@scottski02]

RIP unnamed witch lady

[@Apollos-rest]

I would've too

[@OptimalOwl]

Would that we had all been so lucky.

[@nalinea18]

@Empty Chaotic ”when she was younger” ⬅️ holy shit, I just checked and Gong Li is 54. I thought she was like 30. I need to find out her skincare routine, I’m 24 and I have more wrinkles than she does 😅

[@herheartbeats5727]

I can understand her...

[@palehorseman8386]

Trebuchet scene explained: The veterans shoot a couple times. Mulan starts her ride. Lunch and shift change. Veterans go home and interns take over. I can't believe Shad missed that 😉

[@HiddenRealm]

It was intern training day, and the first two were just to show the new guys the ropes. But remember, I think you mistook their nap time for lunch time, because clearly they weren't awake if they didn't notice mulan running around on horseback collecting helmets, and then placing them one by one up on the cliff and then shooing her horse away. After all if they were *standing around awake* that whole time *doing nothing*, someone would've looked her direction at least once. So clearly, they were asleep. Then Mulan waited patiently for them to wake up and get ready for the next volley.... I mean she had too, you can't surprise sleeping Mongols after all, their eyes aren't open.

[@luckysevens6852]

@@HiddenRealm this could be said for the movies writers as well.

[@ElveeKaye]

WHEN TREBUCHETS ARE OUTLAWED, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE TREBUCHETS! ~shakes fist~

[@NWolfsson]

OH MY GOD I'm cackling x) That was very good.

[@danielrosen2219]

The Shadiversity News Day 1. Shad manages to watch the Mulan fight scene Day 2. Shad analyzes the scene for us Day 3. Shad has been diagnosed with clinical depression as a result pray for him to watch a good fight scene that will aide his recovery

[@Shadeius]

Day 4. Shad advertised audio book of a very controversial author.

[@jackmorgan1710]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGiwip-Ir7GkepI Would that count as a good fight scene?

[@AtelierGod]

Good fight scene as in an actual historically accurate fight scene or so over the top that you throw realism out the window and just enjoy it?

[@danielrosen2219]

@@AtelierGod Yes

[@kristiwilbanks794]

Wait does Shad actually have clinical depression?

[@Inspectre11]

The thing I most disliked about the movie is in the original Mulan trained really hard and earned her strength, while the Mulan in this movie is born with "ki" or something that just makes her better than everyone else from the start. It's just harder to admire a character that started off better than everyone else. Much easier to admire a character that worked hard and earned her power.

[@Phil-dp9iq]

Thing is, Dragon Ball uses "ki" as well. However almost every fighter, even the gods, have to train to become more powerful. Even transformations like Super Sayin benefit from training.

[@Everyonesbuddy829]

Its chi

[@alexschalk5439]

It's also odd that in the actual cartoon, where magic and exaggerated physics are much easier to make look good, had much more grounded fights and relatively few fantastical elements.

[@SioxerNikita]

There is ways to write characters that start off better than everyone else, but then you have to make it entertaining and relatable in other ways. One Punch Man being a good example, since the series doesn't focus on him being strong really... it focuses on how boring it is to be so strong. He has reached peak... Beyond Peak actually, and the writing is far more focused on his day to day life, and the anti-climatic fights.

[@soothsayingProfit]

90's Mulan: You can do anything if you put your mind and body to it Remake Mulan: you can do anything if you were born special

[@OgreManGaming]

Silly Shad, everyone knows that in a real war, archers only carry a single arrow. Any more than that would just be crazy.

[@Jayako12]

Russian strategy y'all

[@nk_3332]

Send the Irish, arrows cost money, the dead are free - Number 6 versus Mel Gibson, otherwise known as Braveheart.

[@misterpayah7723]

Absolutely. When they need more arrows, they can just snatch some out of the air and fire them back. Smh.

[@Poppenheimer69]

"1 arrow for an enemy, a handgun and a bullet for myself"

[@av3joe576]

Hawkeye? Get real

[@drinaldi2000]

"Form ranks, you maggots, form ranks! Pikes in front, archers behind!" -Some "mindless" Orc. Puts things in perspective, doesn't it?

[@JanizMakudomaru]

REEEALLY makes ya think.

[@pencilartguy3258]

Heck, those orcs even had formations and battlefield tactics. They would have had Gondor at their mercy had not the Rohirrim and the undead oathbreakers (I forget what they were called) arrived to help.

[@johny153]

Do you really call Gothmog the Lieutenant of Morgul some "mindless" orc? HOW DARE YOU!

[@shrekzebee4435]

Mogroth!

[@sniperely7915]

Aren't orcs pretty smart? Just that their gear is simple but effective...

[@JuzefaWingedCat]

What I love most on war movies - there always someone who trims the tall bushes and the grass on the field before the battle begins. No mole holes, ant hills or uneven terrain or puddles. Those cleaning ninjas are way underrated.

[@piknos3381]

Everyone knows the sweepers and gardeners are absolutely essential to any functional army

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

Now there's a movie idea, Yoroni Sashimi: Shinobi Gardener.

[@olp3850]

W-what

[@redmantis3336]

I'm tired and I legit thought cleaning ninjas were a thing for an embarrassing amount of time after reading your comment.

[@gunchar06]

@@redmantis3336 Did you just claim cleaning Ninjas wouldn't be a thing?

[@emperoremerald7613]

"He who attacks first, controls the enemy." Sun Tsu - "If you are equal, then fight if you are able. If you are fewer, then keep away if you are able. If you are not as good, flee if you are able." Did the Disney writers for this garbage even skim the Art of War? How can you make a movie about Chinese heritage without even reading one of it's cultural pillars?

[@emperorrevan6992]

There is one sentence that explains this perfectly on Disney’s part: “We don’t care, we’re just doing the bare minimum, now give us your life savings!”

[@bobrock6438]

@@emperorrevan6992 and yet you somehow fuck even that.

[@RanMouri82]

@@bobrock6438 That's what happens when they needlessly pander to the woke and the Chinese at the same time. They please nobody and bomb at the box office.

[@Pangora2]

Napoleon and Sunny there would like to disagree. As your quote shows, "keep away if you are able" getting locked up in a siege isn't getting away. You can't outrun nomadic horse archers. Attackers get to choose the battlefield. if the enemy attacks you and you aren't there, is there an attack?

[@18vladz]

Facts

[@somedandy7694]

Disney Exec: "We decided to take out Mushu, 'cause talking dragons are just silly and don't fit in a realistic movie." Perceptive Fan: "But didn't you put in a shape-shifting witch and guys running up walls?" Disney Exec: "YOU'RE FROM DREAMWORKS, AREN'T YOU?!"

[@Well-groomed_Hobo]

And a freaking phoenix! Don't forget the freaking phoenix that stole the part from one of the best characters in the original!

[@davidecolucci6260]

@@Well-groomed_Hobo leaving aside that they confused a Chinese phoenix with an Arabian one. Different kind of birds and meaning attributed to them.

[@kaynesylvar8277]

Dreamworks is just better then Disney.

[@Dark.Shingo]

@@Well-groomed_Hobo dude the phoenix in the movie is just a "Now go here" mechanic. It's not even a friggin' character, but a videogame pointer.

[@arriannaniv]

I read the book last line in a demonic interrogation voice. Something like Batman “where is she” x50

[@BeaglzRok1]

As Mushu eloquently put the first time Mulan caused an avalanche: "YOU MISSED! HOW COULD YOU MISS HE WAS THREE FEET IN FRONT OF YOU?"

[@zackkelley2940]

She hit her target alright, it just wasn't Shan Yu^^

[@necrosx1872]

Dishonor on you, dihonor on your cow, dishonor on your family...

[@carthage5352]

So that's where the scene in the henry stickmin collection came from

[@christophvonpezold4699]

tbh, this movie was lost the moment it cut mushu

[@janluus9590]

Yep

[@Seallussus]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" Sun Tzu is rolling in his grave now. He was even Chinese, like can't they actually quote his or incorporate any of ideas?

[@Ontarianmm]

So much this, this is almost offensive to Chinese culture.

[@clayxros576]

@@Ontarianmm As much as I tend to despise the culture of the Chinese leadership (which is specify cause the common people's culture is rich and I love it) the disrespect shown in this movie is revolting. Even if it takes the nonsense out of the bullcrap portion, the culture of another should still be respected. This is borderline slander.

[@Ontarianmm]

@@clayxros576 The modern culture, which like many authoritarian rulers before them are trying to rewrite their own history. What a lot of people forget is how hard China was hit during WW2. The country was broken and thus easily manipulated.

[@clayxros576]

@@Ontarianmm Yeah fair point. And with how the people tend to be, you can leverage that ancient romanticized culture to rewrite the culture itself if you're careful. And unfortunately, the founders of the current government were.

[@kabuto35]

I haven't seen the movie so I don't really know the context but seems fairly reasonable to me, like the huns for example couldn't siege Roman cities but instead laid waste to the countryside, and even though the Mongols were better at sieges, they too weren't great. So the Mongols in Mulan could in theory bypass the settlement, but by moving to meet them and force them to take losses, the western taiwanese might entice them to siege the settlement in order to get something for their losses. Edit: nevermind, just saw the trebuchet part lol

[@tmwolf100]

Xu is a true hero who want to protect his people from scammers, but was treated so badly that he can't use his real name in public. sad

[@danielcubias432]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" Yes sir like how we moved first and built a castle here to control this area to force the enemy to lay siege here in order to invade the country.

[@zetaswoop670]

ikr

[@NWolfsson]

"He who moves first", like the nomad army that makes us choose between defending or attacking, Sir? -A soldier that would have been named general if he had spoken his mind. Or beheaded. One of two.

[@nervsouly]

I'm actually a bit at odd with this point. There are examples in history of people actually countering a siege by riding out of their castles in large numbers before the enemy's arrival to catch them by surprise. One person to successfully execute this tactic was El Cid in 11th century Spain. The siege would probably have broken the defenders over time, but by acting unexpectedly they managed to inflict terrible casualties to the enemy forces as well as capture their commander.

[@Normacly]

@@nervsouly Note your own comment, i.e. in large numbers. Moreover, these tactics only work if the enemy forces were spilt up. According to the movie, the nomands outnumbered the Han Chinese greatly and the nomands advanced as a single force. Besides, El Cid attacked his enemies before they can be prepare. These folks set up in the low grounds and didn't even try to fortify their position.

[@nervsouly]

@@Normacly ofc. It's just that they made it sound as if the enemy had not been there yet. And they indeed arrive later. Would have been possible to counter them eventually. But not with that ehm "tactic". I was just saying what the general said was not totally wrong by default given the information available at the point where the scene was being paused.

[@Sousabird]

That's where you're wrong Shad. It is literally impossible for it to be worse than I thought. I have that little faith in the movie.

[@shadiversity]

I wait your comment after the video ^_^

[@evilmandrake]

Obviously, the "He who moves first controls his enemy" is a reference to Sun Tsu's Art of War. The problem with that is that whoever wrote the line has clearly never read or seriously lacks the scholarly mind enough to understand it. As Sun Tsu would see it, preparing fortifications IS moving first.

[@Warhamer116]

they probably went for a literal interpretation of the words and thought 'aha, so if I jump before the enemy moves, the enemy loses!'

[@nicholasfallbrook9810]

I would say that they could have translated it as “He who *acts* first...“ instead but then Mulan would probably interpret that as “Put on a dramatic theater performance.“

[@Warhamer116]

@@nicholasfallbrook9810 Enemy: Has bigger army with better logistics attacking a fortified citadel with men who can scale walls in seconds Mulan: *dabs Enemy: routs

[@SagaceFallito]

He also made clear that attacking a fortified castle is almost always a disadvantage Bruh

[@franciscolaurean8550]

Leaving a fortress to fight on the low ground on a wide open field while you're outnumbered is the big brain play

[@rock2k14]

It's a shame how wrong shad is when he says "only comes along once in a blue moon" bad films like this are just a staple of Hollywood now

[@insensitive919]

This movie isn't nearly as funny as Batwoman.

[@theanialator2]

To be fair a blue moon isn’t too uncommon it happens at least once every few years

[@SioxerNikita]

Bad films has always been a staple in general. The only difference today is the amount of advertising spent on bad films. This idea that old movies were just great, is wrong. There is an entire MOUNTAIN of absolutely fucking terrible movies in any time period. But when looking back, you focus on the good movies. In 20-50 years people will look back at the 2010-2030 period as a Golden Age of movies, because you look at movies like Edge of Tomorrow, 127 Hours, Inception, How To Train Your Dragon, Kickass, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Despicable Me, Dead Pool, Iron Man, Avengers, End Game, etc. When you think back, you filter out a lot of the bad.

[@muckymoe5619]

@@SioxerNikita that's a very weird list of "golden" movies. Each to their own

[@SioxerNikita]

@@muckymoe5619 I mean, you can disagree if you want, but those were movies that were critically acclaimed for being well made as well as commercial successrs

[@pemryjanes5789]

Got to correct you on one point, the Rourans are not a fictional people. They're also the enemy in the original ballad that this movie is based on. So not invented by Disney.

[@shadiversity]

Cheers, thanks for the correction.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@shadiversity The original Mulan screwed up my understanding of history. The Huns were the ones that tried to invade Rome and screwed it up when Attila died, but for some reason I thought they invaded China somehow. It turned out I had merged Huns and Mongolians in my brain as a child.

[@marvalice3455]

@@Edax_Royeaux same. I think Disney used the guns cause they were just easier to pronounce. Like the Disney version takes mulans first name from mandarin and last name from Cantonese first pronunciation reasons

[@95DarkFire]

@@Edax_Royeaux Not mongolians. They did not exist at that time.

[@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox]

I was about to comment this myself lol

[@genericweeb7300]

They removed Mushu because it was deemed direspectful but included a witch, spiritual magic, and shoved in cheap Chinese medieval fantasy drama/movie fights??

[@LadyAhro]

They wanted to turn it into a Wuxia film to appeal to chinese markets but uh, it wasn’t good in that aspect either

[@Muster_Muckee_II]

They removed Mushu because they said they knew how culturally important dragons in general are to Chinese history/culture. Which is why they screwed everything else up. . .

[@DarknessTemplar6]

yeah i remember reading somewhere that they removed mushu bc chinese culture stereotypes... yet they were fine with the "wave-your-palms-in-the-air-and-control-your-chi-thingy" martial art

[@foxxielane2196]

As I had seen many Wuxia movie by big company and indie production crews, the live adaptation of MULAN is worse, the story and all, except the casts were very cool.

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

@@foxxielane2196 hell, Thunderbolt Fantasy is a better wuxia series, and that's a freaking Japanese puppet show.

[@michaelguenot6177]

“They’ve left the castle!” “That’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see if it works out for them.”

[@Cyrathil]

I mean, we see in the first scenes that the fortifications don't really work, so in this universe why not just sally forth?

[@SydCar]

@@Cyrathil The wall itself didn’t work because they can just climb it. But why not have stationed men armed with spears or bows and arrows to hit the guys trying to climb your damn wall.... Get some boulders to drop. Cover them in some kind of flammable substance to drop fireballs... Set up some spike traps, don’t just put your expensive ass wall to waste!

[@bl4cksp1d3r]

Narrator: It didn't work out for them

[@4Curses]

@@Cyrathil Well, but their Horses can´t climb the walls...yet. So fighting them while they run up a wall vs standing on a wide open field while they are riding on horses. I think they opted for the faster death. this China probably didn´t pay their soldiers enough to fight their wish for death.

[@Cyrathil]

@@4Curses I get that, but the benefit to walls is their ability to stop an enemy army. An enemy army that can easily bypass those walls (even if only a small subset of the main army can walk on walls the army itself can fairly easily bypass the walls since the small subset bypass the walls, open the gates or do something else to allow passage for the army) you're not really delaying them. Since they don't have a numerical advantage they have little hope of winning inside or outside the walls. So, it would be consistent they are deciding to choose a quick, and honorable, death instead of a slightly slower loss. It makes them choosing a valley as their last stand make a kind of sense.

[@migmit]

Actually, Mulan does not swim on the avalanche in the cartoon. We see her - on her horse - emerging from the snow a few times, only to be immediately consumed again. I don't know if it's physically possible, but it's very dramatic and very cool. Who does swim on the avalanche is Mushu - who a) is clearly magical (he is a dragon, and NOT a lizard), b) he is much lighter, and c) he is using a shield as a sled. So, even with a magical creature, who practically runs on the rule of funny, physics is at least plausible.

[@JayAndNightASMR]

I still can't believe they've taken an inspirational female role model and made her into a mary sue with magical powers

[@huntclanhunt9697]

And they removed the songs. I loved those songs...

[@vicenzostella1390]

It’s an insult to both the animated movie and the original poem.

[@franklinjones793]

Sounds like Rey

[@tomjjackson21]

What's a, "Mary Sue?"

[@JayAndNightASMR]

@@tomjjackson21 basically acharacter with little to no flaws and can do everything without trying or losing much

[@benjaminsousa7657]

I also love that the witch says "your deceit makes you weak," or something like that, but in the same fight, the only reason Mulan survives is because the leather thingy blocks the projectile Literally the only way she lives is because of her pretending to be a man. Great female empowerment; try to be a man or you die

[@HiddenRealm]

no, because her Qi saved her............................................. And even though the witch herself threw that shuriken and know's it's lethality, she still decides the one arrow is deadly towards mulan despite knowing her Qi stops deadly projectiles and she *should therefore be fucking unstoppable by any of their current technology* Because magic > man OR woman.

[@embodimentofimperfection5694]

@@HiddenRealm I can't tell if that'd be more stupid or not to be honest

[@HiddenRealm]

@@embodimentofimperfection5694 That's because in no way can you logic out bad instances of stupidity by adding more and more logic to it. It just continues to unravel.

[@Battleguild]

Greetings, Good Hunter!

[@doctorhunter5553]

Good hunter, what does thou seek here?

[@iitim2152]

High Ground- Me recalling Every Total war battle I've ever played. Step by step. 1. Take the high ground. 2. Hold the high ground. 3. Make the enemy March to the high ground. 4. Shoot enemy as they approach the high ground. 5. Shoot the enemy as they climb the high ground. 6. Stab enemy as they reach the high ground. 7. Commit horrible War Crimes with my calvary running the fleeing dogs down as they run from the High Ground. Nah let's form up in the valley.

[@jimmnythecricket1175]

Who are you so wise in the ways of science?

[@kianrodriguez4455]

Disney: *HE'S TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE!*

[@iitim2152]

@@jimmnythecricket1175 I am... BATMAN!

[@alexsawchuk5371]

There is an added step from total war Warhammer since there is magic Step 3.5: use magic on enemy as they approach high ground.

[@albussr1589]

So Obi-Wan was really a total genius ... I GOT THE HIGH GROUND!!

[@6root91]

Whenever you're feeling useless, just think about the archers in Disney's Mulan re-make.

[@didntThinkBeforePosting]

reminds me of the earthbenders in atla live action

[@lick3227]

God why is this comment so under liked

[@nicoleweintraub9710]

@@didntThinkBeforePosting well at least they did more than just shooting a single arrow

[@kecukraftwork1988]

@@nicoleweintraub9710 Yeah, they shot a single small rock...that took multiple of them to lift 🤣

[@JoyfulSandwichKing]

Archery: is poor Shad: so you have chosen vicious mockery.

[@justafurrywithinternet317]

Roll 1D4 damage.

[@chaoticreckless6909]

Best cantrip just because of how funny it is

[@bryanmerel]

@@chaoticreckless6909 still prefer Eldritch Blast, but yes, Vicious Mockery is more painful. It hurts the pride!

[@imaginativeskydadytm1389]

@@bryanmerel dude you should watched all for 1 from deerstalkers pictures. They killed an NPC using vicious mockery

[@albertlofling7310]

Shad. what you fail to realize is that they arent using longbows. They are using arrow muskets. You shoot once and then it takes an hour to reload. That is why they can hold it for so long and why they only fire once.

[@revimfadli4666]

So the opposite of a Zhuge Nu?

[@Zechariah_Mathieson1871]

Why would anyone use such a weapon especially in a defensive manner.Why didn't anyone else fire or have normal bows

[@thestoryman5706]

Half the effectiveness of a musket twice the inefficiency of a bow and arrow truly a perfect combo

[@Zechariah_Mathieson1871]

@Robert Shajari Ok thanks I didn't know if Arrow Musket were a real thing thanks

[@zelectrode3337]

That's even more bullshit!

[@bcfb21]

Shad’s kids hear the sound of mental breaking: “is daddy gonna be ok?” Mrs. Shad: “yes sweetie, he just watched mulan” Kid shad: “oh”

[@Kay_McKay]

I think we should consider calling Shad's offspring "Shadlings" in reverence to the sheer force of will that brought them into this world.

[@clara_corvus]

@@Kay_McKay I'm in

[@nk_3332]

Kid Shad: I'll make him a picture of a dragon with machicolations.

[@dturner6332]

@@Kay_McKay Time for Shad to buy little gambeson shirts. To prepare for his army.

[@tomraineofmagigor3499]

Please tell me he didn't pay for it!

[@cliffbooth1620]

Somehow they made the fight in the mountain to look much more cartoonish than the original cartoon

[@patwheeler7436]

Disney, circa 2020: critical thinking is actively detrimental to our movies

[@shaggyone5883]

Volley Fire: Command archers to rain down arrows to the enemies Mana Cost: 100 Cooldown: 60 sec

[@Local_commentor]

Reminds me of League Of Legends long ass cooldown and insane mana cost

[@danielwan2410]

arrow not plural

[@thalmorjusticiar1]

@@Local_commentor nah, DOTA is so much worse, you cast 3 abilities and you suddenly have no mana left, and everything has either a 3 second or 30 second cooldown.

[@Local_commentor]

@@thalmorjusticiar1 well now that they have unlimited haste everyone is spamming

[@qwertydavid8070]

Okay during the archer scene I actually had to pause and think to myself. That's not even being stupid, that's just being purposely ignorant. Like, I have no military knowledge at all, yet your sense of common fucking sense tells you how and where to put units most of the times. When you play TABS for example, you naturally know to put some defense in the frontline, everyone else in the middle, and long rage attackers in the back. That just comes to you naturally, you don't even need to figure that out. On what fucking crack where the people who wrote this on when they said "yeah lets put the archers on front".

[@peewypeabody4284]

Sun Tzu Chapter 4: One defends when his strength is inadequate; he attacks when it is abundant. Chapter 12: Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical. No ruler should put troops into the field merely to gratify his own spleen; no general should fight a battle simply out of pique. If it is to your advantage, make a forward move; if not, stay where you are. (en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu)

[@shadowofhawk55]

Why are you expecting Disney, a multi million dollar company, to put the time into researching Chinese War Philosophers in a movie set in China involving war? Jeez man, let me guess you also expect the sixty dollar game you buy to be completed and have minimal microtransactions.

[@TheKamiBunny]

Also, He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

[@anomaly7853]

"Ah, my spleen feels gratified." -a ruler putting troops into the field

[@shadowofhawk55]

@@anomaly7853 Never heard that before, what's it referencing?

[@GamelessOne]

@@shadowofhawk55 Sun Tzu, it's part of the start of this comment thread.

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

I love the way he just friggin cracks when he talks about the convenience of the snow "DiD hEr ChI dO iT?!"

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

Chi? Qi? Ki?

[@michaelbest5505]

Everyone keeps ragging on the trebuchet miss, but can we acknowledge the distance it was able to throw that flaming bolder? It made Warwolf look like a slingshot! Good for you, trebuchet, may you eventually find use in a competent army.

[@essexclass8168]

that wasn't the trebuchet, it was the rocket assisted fireball

[@ben_5e4]

And the fact that they packed the rocks with high explosives and napalm 42:09

[@rudolfmorvai5824]

Poor trebuchet was murdered by the evil Mulan before he could reach the height of his career. He had so much potential, he will be missed.

[@bonercat3059]

@@ben_5e4 i dont watch the movie (probably never) or this video yet, but chinese do has explosive for their trebuchet ammo even grenade type of explosive that combine with caltrop.

[@OptimalOwl]

@@rudolfmorvai5824 He was a good boy. Was goin'a go to college.

[@MauLerYT]

I was hoping you would cover this, it was something else...

[@Unknown-hb3id]

LOOONG LOOONG MAaAAAaAAAAAAAN!

[@joanjorge566]

Hail long man

[@djdeadbeat4380]

Hello mewschlie

[@shadiversity]

Yeah man, I couldn't resist including your reaction to the witch's death, it was priceless!

[@thenethralking6032]

Hail the long man. This shit was gloriously bad XD

[@afkninjachickenwithfries4102]

mulan remake: a female empowerment movie where the only way to be good is to be born magical.

[@МілєнаРусланівнаШведова]

It felt like it took my last chicken nugget. That's the level of empowerment i received

[@juanarocha8629]

And she asks them to execute her

[@donnamitsuki281]

An already pretty feminist movie completely ruined by the fake and wrong idea Hollywood has of strong female characters

[@donnamitsuki281]

@@juanarocha8629 how is that empowering. Wouldn't empowerment rely on wanting to live

[@Tzarina8472]

Looks like this Mulan was yet another victim of Social Justice Warrior. The typical hero of Social Justice Warrior is; female, unstoppable, larger than life, has no social or personal or physical flaws whatsoever, and if there is magic, she is born with it and more of it than anyone in the last 1,000 + years. This is the definition of a Mary Sue in western culture.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

Can confirm, Xu Xiaodong is a legend. And it's genuinely painful to see the backflips (often literal) that traditional Chinese martial arts advocates will make to try and explain why their styles don't seem to work against him (or, for that matter, anyone else).

[@Nickle_King]

It's sad when an animated Disney film with ghosts, a talking dragon, an intelligent cricket, and song numbers is more realistic than the liveaction movie from the "same" people.

[@pheonixfireblazer]

Not the same people, most likely. Same company, but likely had none of the same people who worked on the original.

[@JanizMakudomaru]

Know what the worst part of this was though? This movie was fuckin BORING. The original one was actually fun to watch and helped it be memorable.

[@JanizMakudomaru]

@DINOBOYXYZ and that's the all around problem with these remakes. No one wanted them, no one asked for them, they add nothing of merit to the story, and overall they're lesser. If anything they should up their hd and rerelease them. I know if they did that I would have payed for it with theatre pricings. ESPECIALLY The Lion King.

[@PresidentOfBepis]

Is the purpose of this entire movie to depict the ancient Chinese military as being so inept and mentally handicapped that they can only be saved by a magical, flying swordswoman?

[@beardedbjorn5520]

Yes you bigot

[@PresidentOfBepis]

@@beardedbjorn5520 How am I a bigot?

[@MainManJaggi]

@@PresidentOfBepis He was jokingly calling you one.

[@raixuh]

Yup, that's why it tanked in China 😂

[@jlogan2228]

Worst of all Original: Mulans clumsy and awkward but usually showed quick thinking skills and adaptability and through very hard training she's able to out think her opponents and turn the tables on them New one: chi magic, she's only special bc she was born perfect

[@thelastronin7035]

Shadiversity: I've been looking forward to this. Mulan: My budget has more than doubled since the original Disney animated film, Shadiversity! Shadiversity: Good. Twice the pride, double the fall.

[@dreadnought448]

Ah a xing tian main

[@tatowerty7236]

underrated comment

[@whiskeysour1179]

...does Mulan decapitate Shad scissor-style in this video??

[@tyrian666]

"We have purposly trained you, as a joke" shad youre killing me 😂🤣

[@BoringBrandi]

Kung pow enter the fist

[@nightwishfan1991]

"You missed! How could you miss?! He was three feet in front of you!" -Mushu.

[@Anldiot69]

The brilliant tactics of that general who said: "He who moves first, controls the enemy " reminds me of a comment I read somewhere. :"Sir, we are surrounded." :"good, now we can attack from all sides."

[@zojacheung1738]

Move first, I can understand this tactic at some degree. He means to retreat and surrender the castle to the enemy.

[@guardsmanom134]

I believe it was actually said differently as recorded(I assume Maj. Gen.[ret] Smedley Butler USMC), and that is, "Men, we're surrounded. That simplifies things." Followed by the order, "Shoot anything that moves and ain't American!"

[@youteacher78]

Sounds very lacedeamonian.

[@GaneicMehiro]

We are outmanned 40-1. They don't stand a chance.

[@guardsmanom134]

@@youteacher78 yes. Truly Spartan!

[@nikolai60]

"It's worse than you think" I dunno dude I already have a super low opinion of-OH DEAR LORD

[@strikezrow]

Fun fact, the Shanshan Desert location in Mulan was only a few miles away from the Uyghur Camps. The actors were bussed to and from the site past Re-education camp #87 multiple times while filming. This movie didn't deserve to be good... Disney on Star Wars Episode 8: "The force isn't special! All people can be special!" (completely contradicts original books) Disney on Mulan: "Don't worry girls! As long as you were lucky enough to be born with super powers you can excel! Otherwise screw you!" (completely contradicts original movie)

[@minhnguyenphanhoang4193]

And also the thousand year old poem.

[@vgamedude12]

Maybe Europe should learn something from Chinese

[@strikezrow]

@@vgamedude12 See, I get why you say that given all the immigration problems in Europe, but what you need is non-globalist leaders who will enforce reasonable immigration laws and deport. We don’t want people in camps…

[@SefricFrampus]

New Mulan be like "let's give woman powers and so they can be as strong as strong man!" Old Mulan be like "Physical strength is not the only weapon in a war, subtlety may be lethal if used correctly. And to fight you need willpower, strong arms are only possible assets." Ninjas be like "Kunoichi".

[@etazeta674]

Somewhere in the afterlife, Sun Tzu is banging his head against the nearest surface because of this joke of a movie

[@somberflight]

They used his quote! AAAA

[@bensmith1955]

@@somberflight Which one?

[@somberflight]

@@bensmith1955 "He who moves first controls the enemy."

[@etazeta674]

@@somberflight I’ve read through the art of war twice, and I never saw that 😂

[@somberflight]

@@etazeta674 Hmm...

[@chabri2000]

Instead of wasting 2 hours in a bad movie, i can instead spend half that time having fun at the expense of that bad movie, awesome video shad

[@carrott36]

Another reason stationing your army in a plain is problematic is they have HORSES. You know, those things that plow right across flat ground and cause immense amounts of damage

[@JarieSuicune]

I think you confused horse with tank. Horses RUN across flat ground and CAN serious damage. (I know you were being figurative, but eh.)

[@Coramelimane]

*Watches Mulan put her hand on the back of her sword.* "Girl Chinese Jian's are double edged."

[@cadethumann8605]

Don't blades only cut when in motion? Just touching the edge doesn't cause damage. In fact, various martial arts like hema involve grabbing blade. Mulan has issues, but her touching sharp edges with care is the least of concerns.

[@sophiearcher6153]

@@cadethumann8605 True but when in a bind like that the enemy could just move there sword which would possibly cause motion and thus a cut, the whole thing is just stupid for mroe reasons that can be articulated lol.

[@mewmeister8650]

@@cadethumann8605 HEMA typically assumes that you are wearing gloves and holding the blade from the sides... not whatever this is.

[@Tibovl]

@@mewmeister8650 You can still do it without any protection, it's not pleasant to hold and if your hands get sweaty you're fucked, but it is very much possible. However in a bind, stopping and pushing straight onto your opponents blade is already moronic. This coupled with the fact that she doesn't actually hold her blade, she only pushes on it, would mean that it can slide and cut her hand.

[@cadethumann8605]

@@mewmeister8650 I recall seeing skallagrim gripping his sharp sword with his bare hands and bashing a tire with the hilt several times. The worst he suffered was a slight cut in one of his palms. And from what I can tell in that Mulan clip, placing her hand on the blade could theoretically grant extra leverage. Granted, the context she uses it in is questionable and I am by no means defending the film. However, I do believe there are Chinese MA that do incorporate the same principle.

[@grrsss8335]

the shot where they missed mulan with the trebuchet reminds me of a dnd game where the archer rolled a 1 and killed the ally standing behind him.

[@Eidenhoek]

Ha ha yeah that's stupid aiming at the guy in front of you. Stupid archer. waitwut

[@sebastianriz4703]

"Your arrow bounces off a rock which richochets off another rock and hits you between the eyes. You cant roll for a save. Game over."

[@TheKazuma410P]

Seems like a case of being so lucky your shot makes it's way across the globe.

[@mr.supporter4u]

Why Does This Seem Like A Bad Ruling. Shooting One Self In The Foot Seems Alot Better. Tho If It Was A Light Humorous Game.... "You Played Yourself"

[@mylesdenton1819]

45:46 WHY ARE THEY TURNING THE TREBUCHET AROUND because: there's no kill like overkill

[@mpw26]

I'll never get over how they had that scene with the two rabbits running along with Mulan so they could have a "see! When they're running you cant tell them apart" kind of moment, only to have Mulan in the very next scene say "I saw these two rabbits running, one was male and one was female", it really encapsulates what Disney writing has become

[@gia257]

thats not progressive enough

[@o00nemesis00o]

gia assuming their gender like that. "I saw two rabbits, one was a rabbit that bleeds and the other was a rabbit that rapes"

[@hatachi422]

Actually, the 2 rabbits thing was in the original Chinese poem that Mulan comes from. In the poem, its at the end, and the whole movie entirely misses the point and moral of the poem. Not to mention that Mulan almost certainly wasn't Chinese, but everyone in the story would have been far north, like Mongols or something. But anyway, the Chinese watching the movie would be familiar with the 2 rabbits line, so it makes sense they threw it in to kiss up to China.

[@annoymous88]

the two rabbit phrase is a metaphor that is stupid to portray it literally. it is used in the original poem to describe the ambiguity of Mulan's dual identity in front of her colleagues. It's like saying "she fought like a man, yet she looks like a traditional woman in her womanly attire, how can you tell it's a male or a female?" the poem is theorized to be originated from the northern Mongol tribe group, Xianbei's battle with Louran, which is rather interesting cause you see, throughout history, Xianbei often stands out as "pale, blonde and beautiful", which sound either russian or european. It isn't that weird as they were quite close with Siberia. the poem has several adaption through history, the "Han Chinese" Mulan we know today is more of a popularized figure from Tang Dynasty.

[@johnnylin3084]

​@@annoymous88 Han Chinese claims to be the decendents of the Yellow Emporor, whose name XuanYuan was used interchangeably with Xianbei for some time. So...even though the most likely candidate for the historical Mulan was in fact a Xianbei, how's that any different from Han Chinese since they are claiming to be from Xianbei anyways.

[@tujek3909]

41:38 with accuracy this high, i'm pretty sure they could just do a 360 no scope with that trebuchet and still their target.

[@JayExci]

Thanks for the good word my guy

[@SuperEone1]

Hi

[@davidwilson6577]

Make a channel 'Jay Exci drinks beans' and upload exclusively videos of you drinking beans you can hold your nose I don't mind.

[@johnbd9765]

I want to see Mulan kick Jay

[@kaelanirevyruun1676]

:O You like Machicolation Man as well? ;P

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

I rly appreciate you covering classic Disney Mulan as comparison. Such a nostalgic watch

[@factbeaglesarebest]

I can help the movie with another stupid quote attempting to sound wise... “He who becomes wet from water, had made the water more dry.”

[@MouldMadeMind]

If you water water it grows.

[@topaz_talon]

Water

[@MouldMadeMind]

@@topaz_talon what?

[@brianoden1798]

" Rusty sled goes fast with new paint".

[@marshmallowvampire8503]

That's like saying water isn't wet

[@jacobmurphy4855]

When Chad talked about kicking the spear he didn't say anything about the bottom of it being pointed so she would most likely kicked a hole into her own foot.

[@nhaer042]

Yes, but chi.

[@pablovalencia829]

@@nhaer042 Please allow me to enhance your comment good person: "Well yes but actualy chi" (?)

[@John_the_Paul]

@@nhaer042 says the force user

[@hulmhochberg8129]

Lol u think a tiny point can pierce her plot shoe.

[@mikeluna2026]

Well, to be fair modern asian martial arts are heavily watered down versions of the originals and they are taught as a sport, rarely for real combat. If you were to go back in time to periods of war in China or Japan, etc, you'd see far more practical martial arts. You'd see a lot of moves desgned to kill (a lot of them using weapons, since you were expected to use them armed and wearing armor, and obviously to be used when you were forced into more individual combat scenarios in the battlefield). It's pretty common knowledge that dojos or other martal arts teachers often pick what to teach their students. I think most focus on real combat was removed during extended periods of peace time...

[@D4rkTooga]

Why thank you. A refreshing answer.

[@ryngobrody1627]

You'd think movies would atleast try and make classic martial arts look useful for war, even an idiot who's never done martial arts before like me can tell that looks like dancing more than anything you'd see in a fight. Like atleast in Ip Man they showed him moving really fast with efficient moved, and only doing flashy stuff to keep multiple opponents away while focusing on one guy

[@unmessable12]

​@@ryngobrody1627 This is what happens when a Hollywood team full of white people takes the superficial qualities of the wuxia genre, or Chinese martial fantasy genre, and basically throws them into a Mulan story with little regard for the genre's subtleties or themes. OP is correct, modern Chinese martial arts are 99.9% fluffed up performance stuff heavily influenced by the Peking Opera, and there is mountains of research that supports this, the military based martial arts do not really exist in the mainstream and the peking opera interpretation is what survives in wushu and most traditional martial arts. That said, Wuxia is not a genre that is supposed to be dependent on practical choreography. It's a genre in which people can fly and basically do magic. And even by THOSE standards Mulan 2020 sucked major ass in terms of its fighting.

[@snowman_oven]

the 11 flash whip🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@beanman853]

Nah it was when guns became effective making close combat less useful

[@cynicalmedic252]

Mushu's lines that best describes the live action: "Dishonor! Dishonor on your whole family! Make a note of this: dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow, dis..."

[@Broomtwo]

Leaving a fortress to confront an advancing enemy, which is largely cavalry, by waiting at the bottom of a valley, now that is just tactical genius.

[@cfghgrtdgdgfdghr]

😭😂

[@texascultdeity8904]

Thats the worst part. They decided on a head on collision. Yes leaving your fortress is bad but sending a small force is actually an amazing idea. You wait for under the cover of night or break of dawn and do hit and run tactics to break morale spred fear and trim down numbers. Use bows to pick off a few guards rush in light a couple tents on fire then get the fuck out. Repeat at irregular intervals. Stalk the army and fire occasional arrows into them just for fear. Keep them on guard. A small force of multiple groups of 10 or 20 is extremely dangerous to an army. You can deny an army of rest and force constant alertness. By the time an army arrives they would be tired and exhausted. Rumours would spread destroying morale and makes for a much easier defence.

[@Broomtwo]

@@texascultdeity8904 I agree with your point, some guerilla warfare would probably be better than sitting in a fort waiting for a large army to siege it. In this movie they did exactly the wrong thing, which is quite funny.

[@Astarica729]

Fighting guerilla tactics would be terrible because it's clear that it's the opposing side that have guys with super powers while your side only has average joes. Even just the non boss characters that can run up on walls would easily destroy whatever few guys you sent out, not to mention their boss level guys can fight. If the defenders are the guys with super powers then it'd make sense to send a few of your super soldiers out and then they can just run up the wall to retreat or whatever.

[@jesselee1031]

They were trying to get in the enemy’s head and syke em out 🤪

[@autumin6843]

POV: you're watching Mulan with your crazed uncle who's really into medieval combat and he keeps pausing every five seconds to complain about battle tactics

[@owlblocksdavid4955]

This is literally my family when we were watching iron man for my birthday. The common line was "suspend your disbelief". My dad would say that. So would I. And my brother. We all still found things to complain about xD

[@LilyoftheLake14]

This is an underrated comment. 😂

[@redhoodjoker4430]

I wish I had a friend like that but for bad movies.

[@johnapple6646]

This is also known as "a Mauler video"

[@nabkill0134]

That me lol. Im literally ban from talking during movie since i keep calling out plot hole

[@fosamwise3374]

when bows take longer to reload then trebuchets

[@jyomi7506]

Mulan switched classes, she's a monk now so the armor would reduce her AC... but monk AC is based on wisdom and she seems a bit low in that stat... ooooh, plot armor. I see now.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

Maybe the stupid rabbit scene was supposed to establish her as having a high wisdom stat. But that's more of a perception/insight thing... But yeah, Mulan in this movie is somehow even more "girl plays D&D and her boyfriend lets her win everything" than Rey was.

[@bombomos]

But she still has the leg/dress armor so her stats have no bonus lol

[@redbear2113]

The DM had an asian fetish so they catered to her.

[@redbear2113]

@@bombomos rip...

[@svenabel2987]

This made me giggle

[@TheHeavyshadow]

10:26 "Was that practical? Not really. Did it look cool?" I don't fucking know, I couldn't tell with the 5 cuts in 3 seconds!

[@Harrier42861]

"We are greatly outnumbered" Me: So, they're going to hunker down and send out skirmishers to try to harry the enemy, maybe burn some of their supplies, right? *considers video title* Nah, they're gonna try some Hollywood tactics and go for the glorious charge.

[@rinastar1952]

Not even the glorious charge , they stood still in a field DOING NOTHING until the enemy was 50 metres away.

[@JerbilKonai]

If one considers that the german imperial navy command tried one last charge in the first world war and it ended in a mass mutiny... how stupid were those soldiers?

[@Сайтамен]

@@rinastar1952 But they have the high ground...for a minute or so...

[@noneofyourbusiness3288]

to be fair: you might make the enemy hesitate and confused should you charge. They might think you are not as badly outnumbered, or that you maybe have hidden troops somewhere else. Suddenly charging might scare them into a retreat or rout. Of course its bad news for you, should they hold their ground, so a feigned charge (if you are able to coordinate that) to see how the opponent reacts and only carry though if you see them panic is probably the best option that remotely involves a charge.

[@rabidmidgeecosse1336]

I haven't seen this but... The idea that numerically inferior forces should not move and engage.... um tell that to the mongols, never bothered them one iota. oddly enough they won a lot too. Yes I know mongols were mostly horse, but not always though and as i say attacking numerically superior (sometimes cavalry) never bothered them.

[@adembenson9860]

well as a student of TCM, what we personally studied was that the kong fu showcased oftentimes in movies and such, wasn't the kind that was used in battle, or at least not in wars, it was a tool of self-healing and body care, it was made for emperors, and rich noblemen to stay in top shape and protect them from disease and such, and another point that should be mentioned is that Shaolin kong fu was very effective in protecting the state of peace, ancient china was more centered on the idea of the more the merrier, in throwing gigantic armies at each other till one falls down, I do believe Chinese war tactics are often overshadowed in movies and series for they're more flashy kong fu content part, but I still believe they are a fascinating piece of history and culture that should be brought out more.

[@milosmilinkov1689]

is it just me or are there no quivers in this movie,maybe that is why they shoot one arrow!

[@sharkastic2633]

Because quivers are for effective soldiers, obviously.

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

I think I did see some of the soldiers carrying one, like Cricket I believe.

[@Djorgal]

They only shoot one arrow because they keep their bow drawn for too long and hurt their arms. That's why they can't shoot again.

[@bowmanc.7439]

Don’t you know Chi users can use their Chi to materialise arrows?

[@siddharthnandi3995]

Good soldiers carry quivers...

[@robc6391]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" That sounds like stuff I personally call "Discount Sun Tzu". It sounds like the first part of a quote that is missing the rest of the stuff. And yes on its own it means nothing. One could argue - by fortifying their position they force the enemy to besiege them aka they can easily predict what's going to happen and possibly wait for reinforcements. Aka they control the enemy :) That attitude could achieve not only numerical superiority but positional advantage as well (enemies stuck between fortified position and reinforcing army). Plus it stops the bigger army from just pillaging the whole area. Kinda one of the reasons why fortified positions exist :) But yeah, I can see the writer(s) going: "just say these lofty words guys it will sound wise and epic" :D Good vid Chad

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Poetic response to said phrase thought up whilst digesting some exceptionally nice burritos: "but has the enemy not been moving since before we knew about them" Or possibly "a tree without planted roots will fall to the slightest breeze" I could probably come up with more, but these seem to fit, and have aproximately 12 seconds of thought apiece, and if they are good enough, then it shows the weakness of the original statement.

[@Real_Eggman]

I guess it would be, the one who strikes first, contrrols the enemy.

[@tonlito22]

An actual Sun Tzu maxim is "Substitute Labor For Leisure." Having already marched to a fort, if the enemy are nearby, then stay in the fort. If the enemy leaves, then you can follow them and cut their supply lines.

[@mr.outlaw231]

Ironically, Sun Tzu stated that if you are outnumbered, you should keep one's distance away from the enemy if able; and besieging cities should generally be avoided, which implies sieges themselves are costly. So even Sun Tzu would look at the general and say, "WTF, man. That is literally the foolish solution to this problem."

[@rinjaniii326]

"he who moves first controls the enemy" -uzT nuS Unless they predicted your move first, or that being exactly what they wanted. lmao Thaaaat quote can also go both ways, if you ask me In hindsight, unless you take an action that isnt what the opponent expect, then you may just end up doing the literal opposite of what youre supposedly trying to achieve. lmao Just sayin Tho there are reasons why philosophies are often debated. I guess maybe that quote has its merits, given the right circumstances This i despise, however; I hate it when "they" give the impression that the bad guys are some sorta idiot. Makes em less convincing.

[@platinumdragonslayer6128]

We must honor Shad’s sacrifice. And that sacrifice is his money, time, and sanity to bring us this video.

[@manlymcstud8588]

don't feel too too sorry for any youtuber with over a million subs, lol, they tend to do okay for themselves.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@manlymcstud8588 r/wooosh

[@manlymcstud8588]

@@georgewhitworth9742 no wooosh involved at all.

[@justinemot2282]

I really hope he saw a pirate version

[@shwingcrimson8202]

@@manlymcstud8588 he did say time tho. Having a million + subs doesn’t change the fact his eyeballs had to see this and his ears had to hear this for more than an hour.

[@lemonisoursquid6101]

14:36 Ah yes, the ol' "when the tactic you're currently using isn't working, switch to something LESS effective!"

[@Masonio]

Shad: "Let's get down to business, to defeat, bad films."

[@George83_Thomas]

HOOAH

[@scottski02]

"Did they send me simps, when I asked for Chads?"

[@Adhjie]

@@scottski02 shrimp* which is fitting since the huns are bigger it also means puny

[@dubsquad156]

45:26 To quote Mushu “YOU MISSED, HOW COULD YA MISS , HE WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!”

[@WinterLady87]

"3 feet from you!", but it still works, lol

[@popeofsimps2924]

Shad: walls are useless in mulan Me, an intellectual: spiked walls

[@dylancross1039]

And/or people within the walls of the fortress stabbing through little openings on the high walls

[@popeofsimps2924]

@@dylancross1039 that'd work too

[@aellin-jz9el]

@@dylancross1039 manual spiked walls

[@mustard4762]

Yari walls

[@vinnyvin4287]

Me, a super galaxy brain intellectual: Movable spiked walls that shift at the demand of a unit of men.

[@bookslover2610]

I just love how the riders magically come from sitting on their saddles to standing on them, while the horses are running at full speed. Even if we ignore the fact that they would have fallen down, they kind of teleport from a sitting to a standing stance. It was also very kind of the horses to keep on running towards a solid wall until they had jumped.

[@musicalaviator]

Original Cartoon Mulan: If you have a lot of determination and put in a lot of hard work, you can achieve amazing things. Mulan Live Action Remake: If you are born with special magic due to luck, you can achieve amazing things.

[@BlazerK1914]

Writer of Animated Movie: It doesn't matter what you are, only matters was how you solve your problems. Writer of Live Action: If you're weak, stay weak. The weak shall be purged, and those born of Great Power will strive and prevail.

[@Maninawig]

Animators of Avatar the Last Airbender: Hey, let's hire a bunch of experts in various kinds of martial arts to see who gives the best feeling for each element, then work with those masters to make sure we are honest to the Asian fighting styles. Writers of Mulan LA: It worked for Sun Wukong, the OP Monkey King and his one man army in Forgotten Kingdom... Let's bring in the witch and make the fiddle player who dies for her incompetence the main character!!!

[@zain6008]

@@Maninawig atla LA: lol

[@Maninawig]

@@zain6008 true, but the creators stepped away, so it is a fan video at best.

[@tanith117]

@@Maninawig The Original Avatar Cartoon actually did have martial arts techniques as its bending moves.

[@Maninawig]

@@tanith117 that's what I was saying. They studied forms of martial arts, found one that fit, then worked with the martial artists to make sure they get it right. By simply giving them the idea of how they wanted to use the move, the martial artist was able to tweak the timing (such as Earth bending's stomp to be more definite) to give them a good and accurate reference to draw from.

[@willpacker2239]

This movies probably less accurate than Monty Python and the holy grail.

[@theencolony5595]

Honestly the holy grail had semi realistic swordfighting, with the black knight having terrible form and losing his limbs because of it

[@Maninawig]

Tis but a flesh wound.

[@matthewtreguboff5079]

And let us not forget, that Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a parody of the Arthurian Legends

[@theepicoshawott]

Imagine being less accurate than a parody film with a 3 headed giant who wants a shrubbery

[@KenhelExcallius]

Even if Monty Python and the Holy Grail had absolute crap fighting, its crap in a way that its funny, which is the whole focus of the movie, a comedy movie, like the fact they used coco nuts to simulate a horse, it is crap but its crap in a good way

[@AmierAzzeal]

we mortals can not comprehend the sheer complexity of the "plot" going on in the movie. I was so wowed my nose started bleeding and I had a intense headache. That or I had aneurysm from the stupid I mean "brilliant" plot.

[@joshuajefferson3504]

Shad's face in the beginning " why does this even exist ? " 😂😂😂

[@toha702]

Disney went dangerously close to breaking Shad here.

[@JayTohab]

I'm pretty sure Disney is actively trying to break him with each new movie. It would explain a lot.

[@AudraT]

Disney does make people mad! If you don't think so then listen to this story. I was having a discussion with my sister about how silly the battles were in this film. I specifically mentioned the foolishness of meeting the huns at the battlefield vs preparing for a siege. My sister vehemently didn't agree with Shad on this. Like, when I say vehemently she got really upset with me and insisted we argue, ARGUE, about it. I of course had no interest in arguing about it. Why would anyone choose to get into an argument about something so inconsequential? I kept telling her over and over again if she wants to discuss it then she can go online and argue with Shad. That only made her madder. What foolishness.

[@jer3887]

:D

[@gebus5633]

Silly Shad, the shuriken vs. armor thing makes total sense. Mulan was indeed wearing incredible magical armor. It's called plot armor.

[@ainikki7006]

"There comes a point where the stupidity is just too great..." This whole movie in a nutshell.

[@SylvanApe]

Shad, beetroot juice can lower the blood pressure for a short while. Just in case you have to review another Disney remake.

[@rangerhoefsyt]

Nice lol

[@skull1161]

I am not sure what is worse, The Last Jedi choreography, or the choreography from Mulan

[@missaisohee]

Thanks. I need it everytime i'm between clients.

[@bowenorcutt78]

I'm going to assume you can make an alcoholic drink out of it, as in my experience you can make booze out of pretty much any plant matter; Would it have the same effect, do you think?

[@thesenate3988]

Today on Shadiversity: Shad almost explodes from rage and gets himself permanently banned from the People's Republic of China.

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

They should exexute ordah 55

[@gonkdroid4603]

Next Upload: Shad bursts a blood vessel on camera

[@petriew2018]

or would be, if China had actually given a shit about this movie either.

[@MithrilSludge6541]

@@petriew2018 they do give a shit, enough to have online forums asking ppl to not watch it lmao. It's even talked about in unrelated places like book apps, it was hilarious.

[@nyft3352]

What is the stance of The Senate regarding the People's Republic of China?

[@hmvd22]

Shad speaking about stupidity a picture of Holdo appears 👏

[@30noir]

Though you could say a lot about her 'character' it was her maneuver he was referencing.