Fight Scene Autopsy: Mulan - IT'S WORSE THAN YOU THINK. . .

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A detailed analysis of the fight scenes and battles from Disney's 2020 Mulan, and how realistic and practical they would be in reality.
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[@ignatius7812]

NGL Shad's not just flluffing his own book, Shadow of the Conqueror magic is so well rounded, it feels like a puzzle you can only solve by reading the book. Vs most magic systems that is just pulling stuff out ones ass. Now if only I could get more books by Shad....

[@iratevagabond204]

The real question is, can he adapt his magic system to an RPG system like Harnmaster, Rolemaster, or Runequest/Mythras?

[@ignatius7812]

@@iratevagabond204 I trust him with every cell in my body

[@crusadernikolai1996]

The Name of the wind is a book with a magical system that was very scientific if I remember correctly... it’s been some time since I’ve read it

[@iratevagabond204]

@@crusadernikolai1996 Just did a cursory glance at it, and it looks like an interesting series and magic system.

[@ZacoLV]

Shad is the master of logics lol try Cogent and youll see

[@Gargorok.]

She discards her metal armor because she learns how much stronger her plot armor is

[@moosemuffins2191]

Mulan thinks she's a mordhau maul man. However she isn't

[@Bubben246]

Or she's a Monk

[@OwO377]

This is what happen when to much plot armor through out the movie.

[@Captaincory1]

@@Bubben246 i was going to go DND logic with unarmored defense and say maybe barbarian, but, after looking into the monk class in the PHB as I hadn't looked into it beforehand, with her skill set the monk class makes more sense

[@Eidenhoek]

NO My *sister* was yelling at that, and she doesn't care about things. NO

[@Ariverfish]

"I hate the live-action Disney remakes." - Sun Tzu

[@mandowarrior123]

@@thundermarkperun1083 only a dancing girl when they don't follow orders and laugh.

[@penginlord9396]

"Sun Tzu said that! I think he knows a little more about film reviews then You do pal because he Invented it!" -Soldier, tf2

[@kylemarthaller3920]

YES

[@kohinarec6580]

Sun Tzu would never say that. Your social credit has decreased. Purchasing of noodles not allowed.

[@bonercat3059]

@@mandowarrior123 this is funny considering that sun tzu actually train or suggest the concubines to know martial arts or drill them to use weapon in order to protect the king.

[@gcewing]

29:12 This makes perfect sense. The archers were so exhausted from holding their bows taught for 30 seconds that they couldn't shoot again for the whole battle.

[@adityanegi1604]

Underrated comment

[@schyleringram7279]

Precisely what I was thinking during that part. "Why aren't they firing again" "probably because they fucking can't lol"

[@florians9949]

They dislocated their shoulders after the first colley.🤣

[@ericstephen1036]

😂

[@E-6969]

911

[@ineffable0ne]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" - Captain Leeroy Jenkins.

[@LamanKnight]

That would have been a great punchline to the original Leeroy Jenkins video. After all his teammates die, and they say, "Leeroy, you are just stupid as hell," he could respond with the mighty words in his fantastic, iconic voice: "He who moves first controls the enemy."

[@RanMouri82]

ROFL! Perfect!

[@Pangora2]

Napoleon?

[@alexs6746]

“Just run in and kill stuff” -leeroy Jenkins

[@florians9949]

@@Pangora2 the difference is that Napoleon actually attacked his enemy. Not leaving a perfectly defendable position and then wait for his opponent to catch him is a disadventageous terrain.

[@hereontatooine4623]

"dishonor on your script, dishonor on your plot, dishonor on your director!" -mushu 2020 'gone but not forgotten'

[@akaniotevanos9861]

**In the Arms of an Angel plays**

[@bandit6272]

They lost me when they cut Mushu. Best part of the movie. RIP in pepperonis little dragon

[@lekhaclam87]

Dishonor on your cow!

[@forestwells5820]

@@bandit6272 On it's own, it didn't lose me because I heard talk it was meant to be "more true to the original legend". Having no idea what the original legend was, I was willing to see what they did with it. Then I heard about other changes made, and each one drew yet another sigh.

[@punbug4721]

Dishonor on your choice of filming location too.

[@andyz2861]

“Never fire more than one arrow. If you can’t kill your target with one arrow, why waste ammunition?” - Not Sun Tzu

[@mustard4762]

True, you should just use one arrow to check the distance and if you can kill the enemy at that distance

[@gamelandmaster3680]

@@mustard4762 But they were in range! They could have fired more than 1 arrow AFTER the test shot. Even if they fired 20 arrows they would almost have a 100% to kill a guy.

[@mustard4762]

@@gamelandmaster3680 gotta check first

[@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947]

"If you are going to eat a bland banquet it is better to just eat a perfect mini-burger " -Me.

[@steeljawX]

Actually, I checked my equipment that was issued to me. It lists me as an archer with a "bow and arrow." Singular. Meaning once it's gone, I'm screwed. . . . . . . Didn't know that Red Army Supply syndrome was running rampant before the Red Army.

[@badzombies2003]

My god, this makes Totally Accurate Battle Simulator look hyper realistic in terms of it's combat.

[@jaegercat6702]

So it makes it look… totally accurate?

[@sidire6892]

Haha

[@maybeghost1216]

You could already read it from the title of the game

[@bobrock6438]

Saying i played through TABS that is pretty bad.

[@chartypeplays2396]

At least TABS has internally consistent rules that it follows.

[@squiddler7731]

My headcanon is that the witch character achieved self-awareness, realized she was in the live-action Mulan remake, and took the arrow as an out. Also yes I laughed when I watched that part too

[@abloodygenderfluidmaniac979]

Yessssss

[@soniasun2692]

This is now what I believe and no one can change my mind

[@ansrfururactions]

"death is better than imprisonment"

[@sodreir.8666]

Me too, while the rest of my family was crying

[@Adam-xf6sq]

Original Mulan: **struggles** **almost gets kicked out of training** out of desperation to protect her country she tries to climb the stick again. Wait... maybe these weights aren’t meant to be obstacles. What if I tried to use them to climb instead. New mulan: climbs a mountain with no struggle at all because she can.

[@rebeccawhittington8979]

that's why I love the original Mulan. she wasn't amazing straight off the bat, she had to work hard to get there.

[@scout360pyroz]

@@rebeccawhittington8979 not to mention she is never unrealistic in what she does in the OG. its a mixture of skill, tactics, cunning, a bit of luck, and a realistic level of physical fitness that lets her pull off everything she does in the original. she never tries to fight the main bad guy, who is far stronger and skilled than she is, head on. Or his army, for that matter. instead she controls the battlefield via affecting the environment or by denying the enemy their target, if I remember correctly. why fight an army when you can use an avalanche? why fight off an elite group of assassin/bruisers when you can just use your own elite group to snatch their target away and force them to fight you on your own terms?

[@rebeccawhittington8979]

@@scout360pyroz exactly. She uses her brain. She thought the whole avalanche on the spot when she saw the reflection on a mountain peak in her sword (if I remember right) and realised she could use it.

[@Mattsimilate]

They basically just turned Mulan into another Rey.

[@franconunez925]

Also, another thing I liked is that her group started as a bunch of idiots at best and assholes at worse, but after she showed how she's willing to give effort and discipline into becoming a warrior, the team passed from a bunch of imbeciles to a actual group of soldiers and comarades willing to help each other(or at least that's how I remember it), meanwhile in this movie... between her plot armor and being the CHOUSEN JUAN! She is just her own army.

[@Delta285]

"He who moves first controls the enemy." Sun Tzu would say "Let this general be dismissed."

[@sternis1]

It would have been interesting if the film-makers would have studied The Art of War in preparation for this film. Surely it would in the Chinas interest to present the teachings and tactics of Sun Tzu in a good light, because they fucking WORK!

[@tomraineofmagigor3499]

@@sternis1 they were too busy thanking the leaders of concentration camps for that. Disney is just fine with human rights violations!

[@medallion2836]

the rule is, not to besiege walled cities if it can possibly be avoided. - sun tzu

[@couragew6260]

@@medallion2836 Example: Why attack the castle, when the supporting crops are outside Just Divide and Conquer like Napoleon... Divide and Conquer was from Napoleon, right?

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

@@couragew6260 It's an old strategy, but Napoleon used it often and effectively. Scipio's attack on Hamilcar Barca, preventing a link up with Hannibal comes to mind.

[@Inspectre11]

The thing I most disliked about the movie is in the original Mulan trained really hard and earned her strength, while the Mulan in this movie is born with "ki" or something that just makes her better than everyone else from the start. It's just harder to admire a character that started off better than everyone else. Much easier to admire a character that worked hard and earned her power.

[@Phil-dp9iq]

Thing is, Dragon Ball uses "ki" as well. However almost every fighter, even the gods, have to train to become more powerful. Even transformations like Super Sayin benefit from training.

[@Everyonesbuddy829]

Its chi

[@alexschalk5439]

It's also odd that in the actual cartoon, where magic and exaggerated physics are much easier to make look good, had much more grounded fights and relatively few fantastical elements.

[@SioxerNikita]

There is ways to write characters that start off better than everyone else, but then you have to make it entertaining and relatable in other ways. One Punch Man being a good example, since the series doesn't focus on him being strong really... it focuses on how boring it is to be so strong. He has reached peak... Beyond Peak actually, and the writing is far more focused on his day to day life, and the anti-climatic fights.

[@soothsayingProfit]

90's Mulan: You can do anything if you put your mind and body to it Remake Mulan: you can do anything if you were born special

[@tmwolf100]

Xu is a true hero who want to protect his people from scammers, but was treated so badly that he can't use his real name in public. sad

[@popularopinion1]

"Did they expect the audience to be bloody stupid?!" Well, it's Disney, so...

[@davidlarson242]

Stupid people usually think of themselves as brilliant so yeah, they think everybody else are morons

[@memelover6917]

@@davidlarson242 ah yes the dunning-kruger effect

[@davidlarson242]

@@memelover6917 Sure is and the studio acting as they did is a prime example of how it can cost millions of dollars

[@tomo-gq2tq]

The kids that watched the original are grown up now

[@philtkaswahl2124]

A lot of recent Disney TV cartoon series have had better plotting than this. Whoever directed/wrote this has no excuse.

[@hamhobo123412]

Commander: ARCHERS ANOTHER VOLLEY Archers: Sorry sir I only brought one arrow with me.

[@sijigs]

All the army only brought one .. one arrow

[@braindead5283]

Someone thought they had the 'Infinity' enchantment.

[@mustard4762]

@@braindead5283 probabpy forgot to enchant

[@petrgrebenicek1067]

Nah. They couldn't fire second arrow, because their muscles get wasted by that 30s draw holding. They are like: Ahh the back pain, please end my suffering.

[@petercselik5674]

"One out of two gets a bow. The one without follows him! When the one with the bow gets killed, the one who is following picks up the bow and shoots!" - the general kinda ahead of his time

[@emperoremerald7613]

"He who attacks first, controls the enemy." Sun Tsu - "If you are equal, then fight if you are able. If you are fewer, then keep away if you are able. If you are not as good, flee if you are able." Did the Disney writers for this garbage even skim the Art of War? How can you make a movie about Chinese heritage without even reading one of it's cultural pillars?

[@emperorrevan6992]

There is one sentence that explains this perfectly on Disney’s part: “We don’t care, we’re just doing the bare minimum, now give us your life savings!”

[@bobrock6438]

@@emperorrevan6992 and yet you somehow fuck even that.

[@RanMouri82]

@@bobrock6438 That's what happens when they needlessly pander to the woke and the Chinese at the same time. They please nobody and bomb at the box office.

[@Pangora2]

Napoleon and Sunny there would like to disagree. As your quote shows, "keep away if you are able" getting locked up in a siege isn't getting away. You can't outrun nomadic horse archers. Attackers get to choose the battlefield. if the enemy attacks you and you aren't there, is there an attack?

[@18vladz]

Facts

[@uqbahkabir7864]

Whenever you're feeling useless, just think about the archers in Disney's Mulan re-make.

[@Director_Delta]

reminds me of the earthbenders in atla live action

[@lick3227]

God why is this comment so under liked

[@nicoleweintraub9710]

@@Director_Delta well at least they did more than just shooting a single arrow

[@kecukraftwork1988]

@@nicoleweintraub9710 Yeah, they shot a single small rock...that took multiple of them to lift 🤣

[@st.salton4024]

The witch couldnt stand the movie anymore, thats why she offed herself

[@scottski02]

RIP unnamed witch lady

[@Apollos-rest]

I would've too

[@OptimalOwl]

Would that we had all been so lucky.

[@nalinea18]

@Empty Chaotic ”when she was younger” ⬅️ holy shit, I just checked and Gong Li is 54. I thought she was like 30. I need to find out her skincare routine, I’m 24 and I have more wrinkles than she does 😅

[@herheartbeats5727]

I can understand her...

[@somedandy7694]

Disney Exec: "We decided to take out Mushu, 'cause talking dragons are just silly and don't fit in a realistic movie." Perceptive Fan: "But didn't you put in a shape-shifting witch and guys running up walls?" Disney Exec: "YOU'RE FROM DREAMWORKS, AREN'T YOU?!"

[@Well-groomed_Hobo]

And a freaking phoenix! Don't forget the freaking phoenix that stole the part from one of the best characters in the original!

[@davidecolucci6260]

@@Well-groomed_Hobo leaving aside that they confused a Chinese phoenix with an Arabian one. Different kind of birds and meaning attributed to them.

[@kaynesylvar8277]

Dreamworks is just better then Disney.

[@Dark.Shingo]

@@Well-groomed_Hobo dude the phoenix in the movie is just a "Now go here" mechanic. It's not even a friggin' character, but a videogame pointer.

[@arriannaniv]

I read the book last line in a demonic interrogation voice. Something like Batman “where is she” x50

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

I love the way he just friggin cracks when he talks about the convenience of the snow "DiD hEr ChI dO iT?!"

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

Chi? Qi? Ki?

[@rock2k14]

It's a shame how wrong shad is when he says "only comes along once in a blue moon" bad films like this are just a staple of Hollywood now

[@insensitive919]

This movie isn't nearly as funny as Batwoman.

[@theanialator2]

To be fair a blue moon isn’t too uncommon it happens at least once every few years

[@SioxerNikita]

Bad films has always been a staple in general. The only difference today is the amount of advertising spent on bad films. This idea that old movies were just great, is wrong. There is an entire MOUNTAIN of absolutely fucking terrible movies in any time period. But when looking back, you focus on the good movies. In 20-50 years people will look back at the 2010-2030 period as a Golden Age of movies, because you look at movies like Edge of Tomorrow, 127 Hours, Inception, How To Train Your Dragon, Kickass, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Despicable Me, Dead Pool, Iron Man, Avengers, End Game, etc. When you think back, you filter out a lot of the bad.

[@muckymoe5619]

@@SioxerNikita that's a very weird list of "golden" movies. Each to their own

[@SioxerNikita]

@@muckymoe5619 I mean, you can disagree if you want, but those were movies that were critically acclaimed for being well made as well as commercial successrs

[@drinaldi2000]

"Form ranks, you maggots, form ranks! Pikes in front, archers behind!" -Some "mindless" Orc. Puts things in perspective, doesn't it?

[@JanizMakudomaru]

REEEALLY makes ya think.

[@pencilartguy3258]

Heck, those orcs even had formations and battlefield tactics. They would have had Gondor at their mercy had not the Rohirrim and the undead oathbreakers (I forget what they were called) arrived to help.

[@johny153]

Do you really call Gothmog the Lieutenant of Morgul some "mindless" orc? HOW DARE YOU!

[@shrekzebee4435]

Mogroth!

[@sniperely7915]

Aren't orcs pretty smart? Just that their gear is simple but effective...

[@sevenproxies4255]

Remember the original Mulan when she triggered the avalanche with a rocket and it was actually more believable than tricking her enemies to turn a freaking trebuchet and counting on them missing by a mile? Serioysly Disney... What happened to you?

[@Richard-mo1nc]

I loved that scene in the animation. It really honours the lesson from Sun Tzu of defeating your enemy without having to fight. Mulan literally did a one shot (entire army!) one kill.

[@sevenproxies4255]

@@Richard-mo1nc I know right! It was also pretty bang on the money in terms of realism. I mean, even IRL they purposefully trigger avalanches in mountain ranges using explosives. The only thing i'm not entirely sure of is the historical accuracy of the rockets themselves. But I seem to recall that ancient china did use such weapons at one point. But even if they didn't it would still be plausible on account of the Chinese being one of the earliest makers and users of gunpowder. Also, the scene with the avalanche itself is still one of the best action scenes in any Disney film. That moment when Mulan went over the cliff edge still on her horse, with Mushu. The Cricket and Shang, firing a rope arrow up to her friends while in mid fall off the cliff. I swear, that moment in the cinema first time I saw it, my heart stopped for a moment! :S Except for Shen-Po's superhuman strength in pulling them back up to safety, no damn magic crutches were necessary for the awesome scene.

[@gohunt001-5]

@@Richard-mo1nc One shot multikill*

[@alexblake5369]

Not to mention the setup/tactics was just so much better. For starters the battlefield is consistent (as in it's on a mountain, during snow season) and Shang isn't stupidly leading his vastly smaller force to their death in a suicide last stand. No after discovering the remains of the main army, Shang is smartly trying to locate the enemy forces while at the same time repositioning his own tropes into a better tactical position. Now normally you would send out scouts to try and find the enemy first before repositioning your forces but you can argue that Shang knows that time is not on their side and the enemy must be getting close to the capital so he makes a risky decision of trying to do both at the same. A decision that brilliantly backfires when one of the rockets misfires, alerting the enemy to their position. With retreat almost impossible in this landscape Shang then makes the only logical decision, Prepare for a suicidal last stand with a focus on killing the enemy leader.

[@arnowisp6244]

@@alexblake5369 Don't forget the decision only backfired because of Mushu. (Still love him)

[@tyrian666]

"We have purposly trained you, as a joke" shad youre killing me 😂🤣

[@MicahRibbentrop]

Kung pow enter the fist

[@strikezrow]

Fun fact, the Shanshan Desert location in Mulan was only a few miles away from the Uyghur Camps. The actors were bussed to and from the site past Re-education camp #87 multiple times while filming. This movie didn't deserve to be good... Disney on Star Wars Episode 8: "The force isn't special! All people can be special!" (completely contradicts original books) Disney on Mulan: "Don't worry girls! As long as you were lucky enough to be born with super powers you can excel! Otherwise screw you!" (completely contradicts original movie)

[@minhnguyenphanhoang4193]

And also the thousand year old poem.

[@JayAndNightASMR]

I still can't believe they've taken an inspirational female role model and made her into a mary sue with magical powers

[@huntclanhunt9697]

And they removed the songs. I loved those songs...

[@vicenzostella1390]

It’s an insult to both the animated movie and the original poem.

[@franklinjones793]

Sounds like Rey

[@tomjjackson21]

What's a, "Mary Sue?"

[@JayAndNightASMR]

@@tomjjackson21 basically acharacter with little to no flaws and can do everything without trying or losing much

[@danielrosen2219]

The Shadiversity News Day 1. Shad manages to watch the Mulan fight scene Day 2. Shad analyzes the scene for us Day 3. Shad has been diagnosed with clinical depression as a result pray for him to watch a good fight scene that will aide his recovery

[@Shadeius]

Day 4. Shad advertised audio book of a very controversial author.

[@jackmorgan1710]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGiwip-Ir7GkepI Would that count as a good fight scene?

[@AtelierGod]

Good fight scene as in an actual historically accurate fight scene or so over the top that you throw realism out the window and just enjoy it?

[@danielrosen2219]

@@AtelierGod Yes

[@kristiwilbanks794]

Wait does Shad actually have clinical depression?

[@cliffbooth1620]

Somehow they made the fight in the mountain to look much more cartoonish than the original cartoon

[@fosamwise3374]

when bows take longer to reload then trebuchets

[@neillindgren8992]

Well, obviously from Shad’s example, the Chinese archers were only able to fire one shot because after holding their bows for 31 seconds, most of them had hurt themselves too badly to fire a second shot after holding their bows drawn for that long.

[@joshaviahbidania7517]

Yeah... and they couldnt fire more arrows because they focused their training on hand to hand combat instead of whats useful

[@janluus9590]

Why not just start pulling back 10 seconds before firing? Could that work? Then they could fire 3 shots

[@joebomb1019]

They could probably do better, considering they're shooting at a group of enemies

[@TheCoffeeKramer]

I still find it funny how the live action adaptation is less realistic than the original animated movie.

[@jacobitewiseman3696]

Yeah Cinderella at least tried breaking the lock apart.

[@andrewshraga7301]

Legit tho ... The scene where they are singing and marching and then bam massacred army ... Mulan picks up the doll ... How much is conveyed in a few seconds ... The real cost of war ... The more you sit and compare scenes of struggle and sacrifice from the animation to the live action the more ridiculous it gets ... I actually like those stupid ridiculous martial arts films because they are stupid and you don't have to take them seriously... If they'd called this crouching Tiger hidden Mulan and not claimed any relation to the animation it would have probably worked fine in that genre ...

[@captainace8295]

A lot of live action films/movies are less realistic than animated shows/movies

[@GaneicMehiro]

@@andrewshraga7301 Yes I watched one recently that just escalated the further into the movie it got, started with simple fighting and ended with people that could fly, make frog stances and one could even fly. it was great, hilariously fun to watch because of the silliness because it was intended.

[@andrewshraga7301]

@@GaneicMehiro it wasn't kungfu hustle was it? thats gold

[@migmit]

Actually, Mulan does not swim on the avalanche in the cartoon. We see her - on her horse - emerging from the snow a few times, only to be immediately consumed again. I don't know if it's physically possible, but it's very dramatic and very cool. Who does swim on the avalanche is Mushu - who a) is clearly magical (he is a dragon, and NOT a lizard), b) he is much lighter, and c) he is using a shield as a sled. So, even with a magical creature, who practically runs on the rule of funny, physics is at least plausible.

[@tujek3909]

41:38 with accuracy this high, i'm pretty sure they could just do a 360 no scope with that trebuchet and still their target.

[@BeaglzRok1]

As Mushu eloquently put the first time Mulan caused an avalanche: "YOU MISSED! HOW COULD YOU MISS HE WAS THREE FEET IN FRONT OF YOU?"

[@zackkelley2940]

She hit her target alright, it just wasn't Shan Yu^^

[@necrosx1872]

Dishonor on you, dihonor on your cow, dishonor on your family...

[@carthage5352]

So that's where the scene in the henry stickmin collection came from

[@christophvonpezold4699]

tbh, this movie was lost the moment it cut mushu

[@janluus9590]

Yep

[@inasaira8380]

it bugs me so much that she just threw away her father's armor. theyre not a rich family, what was she thinking?

[@susanothegreat]

If you take a good look at it, its brand new armor, most likely issued to her in the camp. This implies however that she threw her fathers armor away as soon as she got checked in

[@inasaira8380]

@@susanothegreat omg thats even worse. holy shit the disrespect.

[@amieleoliver9119]

She's SO upset about losing her father’s sword, but doesn't even blink at ditching the armor

[@marshmallowvampire8503]

Honor my ass

[@XiaoFury]

Because woman.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

Can confirm, Xu Xiaodong is a legend. And it's genuinely painful to see the backflips (often literal) that traditional Chinese martial arts advocates will make to try and explain why their styles don't seem to work against him (or, for that matter, anyone else).

[@carrott36]

Another reason stationing your army in a plain is problematic is they have HORSES. You know, those things that plow right across flat ground and cause immense amounts of damage

[@JarieSuicune]

I think you confused horse with tank. Horses RUN across flat ground and CAN serious damage. (I know you were being figurative, but eh.)

[@afkninjachickenwithfries4102]

mulan remake: a female empowerment movie where the only way to be good is to be born magical.

[@user-hw9zo1sz4i]

It felt like it took my last chicken nugget. That's the level of empowerment i received

[@juanarocha8629]

And she asks them to execute her

[@donnamitsuki281]

An already pretty feminist movie completely ruined by the fake and wrong idea Hollywood has of strong female characters

[@donnamitsuki281]

@@juanarocha8629 how is that empowering. Wouldn't empowerment rely on wanting to live

[@Tzarina8472]

Looks like this Mulan was yet another victim of Social Justice Warrior. The typical hero of Social Justice Warrior is; female, unstoppable, larger than life, has no social or personal or physical flaws whatsoever, and if there is magic, she is born with it and more of it than anyone in the last 1,000 + years. This is the definition of a Mary Sue in western culture.

[@calumsimpson420]

Archery: is poor Shad: so you have chosen vicious mockery.

[@justafurrywithinternet317]

Roll 1D4 damage.

[@chaoticreckless6909]

Best cantrip just because of how funny it is

[@bryanmerel]

@@chaoticreckless6909 still prefer Eldritch Blast, but yes, Vicious Mockery is more painful. It hurts the pride!

[@imaginativeskydadytm1389]

@@bryanmerel dude you should watched all for 1 from deerstalkers pictures. They killed an NPC using vicious mockery

[@lemonisoursquid6101]

14:36 Ah yes, the ol' "when the tactic you're currently using isn't working, switch to something LESS effective!"

[@ainikki7006]

"There comes a point where the stupidity is just too great..." This whole movie in a nutshell.

[@palehorseman8386]

Trebuchet scene explained: The veterans shoot a couple times. Mulan starts her ride. Lunch and shift change. Veterans go home and interns take over. I can't believe Shad missed that 😉

[@HiddenRealm]

It was intern training day, and the first two were just to show the new guys the ropes. But remember, I think you mistook their nap time for lunch time, because clearly they weren't awake if they didn't notice mulan running around on horseback collecting helmets, and then placing them one by one up on the cliff and then shooing her horse away. After all if they were *standing around awake* that whole time *doing nothing*, someone would've looked her direction at least once. So clearly, they were asleep. Then Mulan waited patiently for them to wake up and get ready for the next volley.... I mean she had too, you can't surprise sleeping Mongols after all, their eyes aren't open.

[@luckysevens6852]

@@HiddenRealm this could be said for the movies writers as well.

[@ElveeKaye]

WHEN TREBUCHETS ARE OUTLAWED, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE TREBUCHETS! ~shakes fist~

[@NWolfsson]

OH MY GOD I'm cackling x) That was very good.

[@danielcubias432]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" Yes sir like how we moved first and built a castle here to control this area to force the enemy to lay siege here in order to invade the country.

[@zetaswoop670]

ikr

[@NWolfsson]

"He who moves first", like the nomad army that makes us choose between defending or attacking, Sir? -A soldier that would have been named general if he had spoken his mind. Or beheaded. One of two.

[@nervsouly]

I'm actually a bit at odd with this point. There are examples in history of people actually countering a siege by riding out of their castles in large numbers before the enemy's arrival to catch them by surprise. One person to successfully execute this tactic was El Cid in 11th century Spain. The siege would probably have broken the defenders over time, but by acting unexpectedly they managed to inflict terrible casualties to the enemy forces as well as capture their commander.

[@Normacly]

@@nervsouly Note your own comment, i.e. in large numbers. Moreover, these tactics only work if the enemy forces were spilt up. According to the movie, the nomands outnumbered the Han Chinese greatly and the nomands advanced as a single force. Besides, El Cid attacked his enemies before they can be prepare. These folks set up in the low grounds and didn't even try to fortify their position.

[@nervsouly]

@@Normacly ofc. It's just that they made it sound as if the enemy had not been there yet. And they indeed arrive later. Would have been possible to counter them eventually. But not with that ehm "tactic". I was just saying what the general said was not totally wrong by default given the information available at the point where the scene was being paused.

[@mikeluna2026]

Well, to be fair modern asian martial arts are heavily watered down versions of the originals and they are taught as a sport, rarely for real combat. If you were to go back in time to periods of war in China or Japan, etc, you'd see far more practical martial arts. You'd see a lot of moves desgned to kill (a lot of them using weapons, since you were expected to use them armed and wearing armor, and obviously to be used when you were forced into more individual combat scenarios in the battlefield). It's pretty common knowledge that dojos or other martal arts teachers often pick what to teach their students. I think most focus on real combat was removed during extended periods of peace time...

[@D4rkTooga]

Why thank you. A refreshing answer.

[@ryngobrody1627]

You'd think movies would atleast try and make classic martial arts look useful for war, even an idiot who's never done martial arts before like me can tell that looks like dancing more than anything you'd see in a fight. Like atleast in Ip Man they showed him moving really fast with efficient moved, and only doing flashy stuff to keep multiple opponents away while focusing on one guy

[@unmessable12]

​@@ryngobrody1627 This is what happens when a Hollywood team full of white people takes the superficial qualities of the wuxia genre, or Chinese martial fantasy genre, and basically throws them into a Mulan story with little regard for the genre's subtleties or themes. OP is correct, modern Chinese martial arts are 99.9% fluffed up performance stuff heavily influenced by the Peking Opera, and there is mountains of research that supports this, the military based martial arts do not really exist in the mainstream and the peking opera interpretation is what survives in wushu and most traditional martial arts. That said, Wuxia is not a genre that is supposed to be dependent on practical choreography. It's a genre in which people can fly and basically do magic. And even by THOSE standards Mulan 2020 sucked major ass in terms of its fighting.

[@snowman_oven]

the 11 flash whip🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@beanman853]

Nah it was when guns became effective making close combat less useful

[@AmierAzzeal]

we mortals can not comprehend the sheer complexity of the "plot" going on in the movie. I was so wowed my nose started bleeding and I had a intense headache. That or I had aneurysm from the stupid I mean "brilliant" plot.

[@thenailsageofgeo4975]

Silly Shad, everyone knows that in a real war, archers only carry a single arrow. Any more than that would just be crazy.

[@Jayako12]

Russian strategy y'all

[@nk_3332]

Send the Irish, arrows cost money, the dead are free - Number 6 versus Mel Gibson, otherwise known as Braveheart.

[@misterpayah7723]

Absolutely. When they need more arrows, they can just snatch some out of the air and fire them back. Smh.

[@user-gk6gf1lq9x]

"1 arrow for an enemy, a handgun and a bullet for myself"

[@av3joe576]

Hawkeye? Get real

[@bcfb21]

Shad’s kids hear the sound of mental breaking: “is daddy gonna be ok?” Mrs. Shad: “yes sweetie, he just watched mulan” Kid shad: “oh”

[@Kay_McKay]

I think we should consider calling Shad's offspring "Shadlings" in reverence to the sheer force of will that brought them into this world.

[@corvus_da]

@@Kay_McKay I'm in

[@nk_3332]

Kid Shad: I'll make him a picture of a dragon with machicolations.

[@dturner6332]

@@Kay_McKay Time for Shad to buy little gambeson shirts. To prepare for his army.

[@tomraineofmagigor3499]

Please tell me he didn't pay for it!

[@kylienielsen6975]

My personal head cannon ( which I know is a foolish attempt at hope) is the general was actually working with the enemy and when they lost he just continued hiding.

[@Dramoklos]

you still have hope ?

[@kylienielsen6975]

​@luciusong1299 I never had hope that's just what they SHOULD have made it

[@renascitur7051]

"Just be born as a magical woman with plot armor lmao" - Sun Tzu

[@Seallussus]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" Sun Tzu is rolling in his grave now. He was even Chinese, like can't they actually quote his or incorporate any of ideas?

[@Ontarianmm]

So much this, this is almost offensive to Chinese culture.

[@clayxros576]

@@Ontarianmm As much as I tend to despise the culture of the Chinese leadership (which is specify cause the common people's culture is rich and I love it) the disrespect shown in this movie is revolting. Even if it takes the nonsense out of the bullcrap portion, the culture of another should still be respected. This is borderline slander.

[@Ontarianmm]

@@clayxros576 The modern culture, which like many authoritarian rulers before them are trying to rewrite their own history. What a lot of people forget is how hard China was hit during WW2. The country was broken and thus easily manipulated.

[@clayxros576]

@@Ontarianmm Yeah fair point. And with how the people tend to be, you can leverage that ancient romanticized culture to rewrite the culture itself if you're careful. And unfortunately, the founders of the current government were.

[@kabuto35]

I haven't seen the movie so I don't really know the context but seems fairly reasonable to me, like the huns for example couldn't siege Roman cities but instead laid waste to the countryside, and even though the Mongols were better at sieges, they too weren't great. So the Mongols in Mulan could in theory bypass the settlement, but by moving to meet them and force them to take losses, the western taiwanese might entice them to siege the settlement in order to get something for their losses. Edit: nevermind, just saw the trebuchet part lol

[@michaelguenot6177]

“They’ve left the castle!” “That’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see if it works out for them.”

[@Cyrathil]

I mean, we see in the first scenes that the fortifications don't really work, so in this universe why not just sally forth?

[@SydCar]

@@Cyrathil The wall itself didn’t work because they can just climb it. But why not have stationed men armed with spears or bows and arrows to hit the guys trying to climb your damn wall.... Get some boulders to drop. Cover them in some kind of flammable substance to drop fireballs... Set up some spike traps, don’t just put your expensive ass wall to waste!

[@bl4cksp1d3r]

Narrator: It didn't work out for them

[@4Curses]

@@Cyrathil Well, but their Horses can´t climb the walls...yet. So fighting them while they run up a wall vs standing on a wide open field while they are riding on horses. I think they opted for the faster death. this China probably didn´t pay their soldiers enough to fight their wish for death.

[@Cyrathil]

@@4Curses I get that, but the benefit to walls is their ability to stop an enemy army. An enemy army that can easily bypass those walls (even if only a small subset of the main army can walk on walls the army itself can fairly easily bypass the walls since the small subset bypass the walls, open the gates or do something else to allow passage for the army) you're not really delaying them. Since they don't have a numerical advantage they have little hope of winning inside or outside the walls. So, it would be consistent they are deciding to choose a quick, and honorable, death instead of a slightly slower loss. It makes them choosing a valley as their last stand make a kind of sense.

[@furyofthesmallartist5485]

Disney: Mushu won't be in the movie because it's a realistic movie. Also Disney: There is lots of magic, more than in the animated movie for no reason at all.

[@thomasfoster1181]

I think the distinction is about seriousness and not realism.

[@furyofthesmallartist5485]

@@thomasfoster1181 Having people run in the sky as they are about to fall is comedic relief, not seriousness.

[@bookslover2610]

I just love how the riders magically come from sitting on their saddles to standing on them, while the horses are running at full speed. Even if we ignore the fact that they would have fallen down, they kind of teleport from a sitting to a standing stance. It was also very kind of the horses to keep on running towards a solid wall until they had jumped.

[@thesenate3988]

Today on Shadiversity: Shad almost explodes from rage and gets himself permanently banned from the People's Republic of China.

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

They should exexute ordah 55

[@gonkdroid4603]

Next Upload: Shad bursts a blood vessel on camera

[@petriew2018]

or would be, if China had actually given a shit about this movie either.

[@MithrilSludge6541]

@@petriew2018 they do give a shit, enough to have online forums asking ppl to not watch it lmao. It's even talked about in unrelated places like book apps, it was hilarious.

[@nyft3352]

What is the stance of The Senate regarding the People's Republic of China?

[@Sousabird]

That's where you're wrong Shad. It is literally impossible for it to be worse than I thought. I have that little faith in the movie.

[@shadiversity]

I wait your comment after the video ^_^

[@vmax_]

You know what the crazy thing is? Disney actually did the right fort capturing scene with wall running all the way back in 2010, in Prince of Persia. The small group led by the protagonist was climbing the wall in the middle of the night from the side where there was no moonlight while the main forces were drawing guard's attention from the opposite side - diversion tactics at its finest, Sun Tzu would be proud.

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

But that scene was much more realisticly done. Also if memory serves me right they used very strong crossbows to shoot bolts into the gaps between individual bricks that the wall was build from to provide hand and footholds for the protagonist to grab onto and they failed at least one shot. Also, the protagonist and his troop at this point had long been build up as an elite force with incredible capabilities. And in the wall running scene i seem to remember him having a rope to hold onto.

[@soleo2783]

@@tranquilthoughts7233 Keep in mind that climbing a rope that's attached to an arrow/bolt is also unrealistic, and so is shooting arrows and bolts with ropes attached to them strong enough to get stuck into walls, so they just traded one unrealistic concept for another

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

@@soleo2783 The wall running scene was quite a bit after the wall climbing scene. When the wall run scene starts he's already on top of the wall. His wallrun is along the inside of the wall to reach a balcony of the gatehouse and the rope he is holding onto is attached to the tower of the gatehouse.

[@adembenson9860]

well as a student of TCM, what we personally studied was that the kong fu showcased oftentimes in movies and such, wasn't the kind that was used in battle, or at least not in wars, it was a tool of self-healing and body care, it was made for emperors, and rich noblemen to stay in top shape and protect them from disease and such, and another point that should be mentioned is that Shaolin kong fu was very effective in protecting the state of peace, ancient china was more centered on the idea of the more the merrier, in throwing gigantic armies at each other till one falls down, I do believe Chinese war tactics are often overshadowed in movies and series for they're more flashy kong fu content part, but I still believe they are a fascinating piece of history and culture that should be brought out more.

[@autumin6843]

POV: you're watching Mulan with your crazed uncle who's really into medieval combat and he keeps pausing every five seconds to complain about battle tactics

[@owlblocksdavid4955]

This is literally my family when we were watching iron man for my birthday. The common line was "suspend your disbelief". My dad would say that. So would I. And my brother. We all still found things to complain about xD

[@LilyoftheLake14]

This is an underrated comment. 😂

[@redhoodjoker4430]

I wish I had a friend like that but for bad movies.

[@johnapple6646]

This is also known as "a Mauler video"

[@nabkill0134]

That me lol. Im literally ban from talking during movie since i keep calling out plot hole

[@PresidentOfBepis]

Is the purpose of this entire movie to depict the ancient Chinese military as being so inept and mentally handicapped that they can only be saved by a magical, flying swordswoman?

[@beardedbjorn5520]

Yes you bigot

[@PresidentOfBepis]

@@beardedbjorn5520 How am I a bigot?

[@MainManJaggi]

@@PresidentOfBepis He was jokingly calling you one.

[@raixuh]

Yup, that's why it tanked in China 😂

[@jlogan2228]

Worst of all Original: Mulans clumsy and awkward but usually showed quick thinking skills and adaptability and through very hard training she's able to out think her opponents and turn the tables on them New one: chi magic, she's only special bc she was born perfect

[@Scow2]

I just want to say that it might actually still make sense to build walls even in a world where armies can run up them. In these cases, walls greatly increase the range at which archers and defenders can engage enemies, by adding the height of the wall to the distance a charging army must traverse, and providing superior height and line-of-sight for the defenders. Gravity weapons, like rocks and burning oil also get a nice 'path' they can flow down and wash/crush several charging ranks - and the bodies of people who get knocked off the wall also become a burden/obstacle to those running up behind them. Furthermore, in settings where gravity is more defiable, you can build even taller walls with less effort, as the builders can traverse the worksite more easily - especially if there are some with superhuman strength capable of carrying by hands loads we normally need machines to move. A shame the movie doesn't show the defenders being smart with their defenses, though.

[@isdrakon9802]

I've got a simpler solution, build the walls to be slanted outward and make sure it's smooth

[@InsufficientGravitas]

"He who moves first controls the enemy" I suggest they ought to move to prepare a siege. Maybe construct traps,stockpile arrows, dig a small moat. So many "active" options.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

Always dig ditches.

[@JuzefaWingedCat]

What I love most on war movies - there always someone who trims the tall bushes and the grass on the field before the battle begins. No mole holes, ant hills or uneven terrain or puddles. Those cleaning ninjas are way underrated.

[@piknos3381]

Everyone knows the sweepers and gardeners are absolutely essential to any functional army

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

Now there's a movie idea, Yoroni Sashimi: Shinobi Gardener.

[@olp3850]

W-what

[@redmantis3336]

I'm tired and I legit thought cleaning ninjas were a thing for an embarrassing amount of time after reading your comment.

[@gunchar06]

@@redmantis3336 Did you just claim cleaning Ninjas wouldn't be a thing?

[@evilmandrake]

Obviously, the "He who moves first controls his enemy" is a reference to Sun Tsu's Art of War. The problem with that is that whoever wrote the line has clearly never read or seriously lacks the scholarly mind enough to understand it. As Sun Tsu would see it, preparing fortifications IS moving first.

[@Warhamer116]

they probably went for a literal interpretation of the words and thought 'aha, so if I jump before the enemy moves, the enemy loses!'

[@nicholasfallbrook9810]

I would say that they could have translated it as “He who *acts* first...“ instead but then Mulan would probably interpret that as “Put on a dramatic theater performance.“

[@Warhamer116]

@@nicholasfallbrook9810 Enemy: Has bigger army with better logistics attacking a fortified citadel with men who can scale walls in seconds Mulan: *dabs Enemy: routs

[@babibo9028]

He also made clear that attacking a fortified castle is almost always a disadvantage Bruh

[@franciscolaurean8550]

Leaving a fortress to fight on the low ground on a wide open field while you're outnumbered is the big brain play

[@DPoddy]

Sun Tzu rolling in his grave so fast, generating so much energy, he renders the power generation capabilities of the Three Gorges Dam obsolete. Also, the chinese martial arts are real, just not real in the sense how their masters claim to be. In reality they are much more like performance arts than martial arts. In XXD's case it's like putting an actual boxer and a dancer in a fighting ring.

[@Thor-Orion]

I took ballet to help my footwork and agility for boxing and kickboxing.

[@Thor-Orion]

I say that because I have a ton of respect for dancer's athleticism and dedication.

[@ansrfururactions]

Knowing historical warlords, the people behind this movie would be LUCKY if they were decapitated, chances are they would be tortured to death if Sun Tzu was still somehow alive and had the command over his army, I am not even joking.

[@rainmanslim4611]

I love how the Chinese audience hated this as well even after the ccp basically threatened people who criticised it when it released.

[@benjaminsousa7657]

I also love that the witch says "your deceit makes you weak," or something like that, but in the same fight, the only reason Mulan survives is because the leather thingy blocks the projectile Literally the only way she lives is because of her pretending to be a man. Great female empowerment; try to be a man or you die

[@HiddenRealm]

no, because her Qi saved her............................................. And even though the witch herself threw that shuriken and know's it's lethality, she still decides the one arrow is deadly towards mulan despite knowing her Qi stops deadly projectiles and she *should therefore be fucking unstoppable by any of their current technology* Because magic > man OR woman.

[@embodimentofimperfection5694]

@@HiddenRealm I can't tell if that'd be more stupid or not to be honest

[@HiddenRealm]

@@embodimentofimperfection5694 That's because in no way can you logic out bad instances of stupidity by adding more and more logic to it. It just continues to unravel.

[@Battleguild]

Greetings, Good Hunter!

[@doctorhunter5553]

Good hunter, what does thou seek here?

[@SefricFrampus]

New Mulan be like "let's give woman powers and so they can be as strong as strong man!" Old Mulan be like "Physical strength is not the only weapon in a war, subtlety may be lethal if used correctly. And to fight you need willpower, strong arms are only possible assets." Ninjas be like "Kunoichi".

[@victorgabriel6387]

"If you don't know your enemy, and don't know yourself, then wait for him to throw a spear at you, if you can kick that spear back, then you're stronger than your enemy." ~Sun Tzu.

[@BAN3FromNoWhere]

Thank you for the mention of Xu Xiaodong, it's a story not enough people know, and highlights a lot of issues with a lot of the way people view martial arts... Among other things.

[@pemryjanes5789]

Got to correct you on one point, the Rourans are not a fictional people. They're also the enemy in the original ballad that this movie is based on. So not invented by Disney.

[@shadiversity]

Cheers, thanks for the correction.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@shadiversity The original Mulan screwed up my understanding of history. The Huns were the ones that tried to invade Rome and screwed it up when Attila died, but for some reason I thought they invaded China somehow. It turned out I had merged Huns and Mongolians in my brain as a child.

[@marvalice3455]

@@Edax_Royeaux same. I think Disney used the guns cause they were just easier to pronounce. Like the Disney version takes mulans first name from mandarin and last name from Cantonese first pronunciation reasons

[@95DarkFire]

@@Edax_Royeaux Not mongolians. They did not exist at that time.

[@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox]

I was about to comment this myself lol

[@snazzyjovialwyrm3314]

Disney: "We wanted the remake to be historically accurate, so we got rid of funny Eddie Murphy dragon." Also Disney: "There's a witch with magic, unrealistic combat and tactics, and a power fantasy version of Mulan with super powers because she's the chosen one."

[@tommyfortress7515]

Wtf disney

[@H4WKB13]

They didn't change it to be more realistic. They changed it to be closer to the original story. Though they didn't really get close to it. The animated movie is just as far removed from it though.

[@alexanderwu]

@@H4WKB13 The original story didn't have a witch though... Or a super powered Mulan... Or people running up walls... Or a phoenix...

[@YanosProductions]

Mushu carries Milan as much as baby Yoda carries mandalorian

[@Bezaliel13]

Quite possibly the absolute lamest "superpowers" ever by having her be "chosen" to have the power *of a man.* No amount of that power changes an entire sex having the same "superpower." Should not even be a superpower at that point.

[@ianjames8213]

I have 2 relatives who specialises in mediaeval history and combat. This is just so satisfying to watch as this is what I’ve been screaming at these movies

[@BenSuzuki]

I was pissed at her throwing her armor away. Surprisingly it was not primarily the realism thing, though that did play a small factor. THAT WAS HER FATHER'S ARMOR! It was basically an heirloom, and she discards it like trash after stealing it in the first place!

[@jocelantonettetenoc5996]

And add the fact that armor are very expensive to make. The writers probably did that because she's already protected by plot armor.😒

[@patwheeler7436]

Disney, circa 2020: critical thinking is actively detrimental to our movies

[@genericweeb7300]

They removed Mushu because it was deemed direspectful but included a witch, spiritual magic, and shoved in cheap Chinese medieval fantasy drama/movie fights??

[@LadyAhro]

They wanted to turn it into a Wuxia film to appeal to chinese markets but uh, it wasn’t good in that aspect either

[@Muster_Muckee_II]

They removed Mushu because they said they knew how culturally important dragons in general are to Chinese history/culture. Which is why they screwed everything else up. . .

[@DarknessTemplar6]

yeah i remember reading somewhere that they removed mushu bc chinese culture stereotypes... yet they were fine with the "wave-your-palms-in-the-air-and-control-your-chi-thingy" martial art

[@foxxielane2196]

As I had seen many Wuxia movie by big company and indie production crews, the live adaptation of MULAN is worse, the story and all, except the casts were very cool.

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

@@foxxielane2196 hell, Thunderbolt Fantasy is a better wuxia series, and that's a freaking Japanese puppet show.

[@revimfadli4666]

45:44 when you accidentally add a trebuchet when selecting your archers to attack enemy infantry in Age of Empires

[@sofiadragon6520]

I've been told about the level of pain and the time investment I go through for fight scenes I write: "Most people won't know the difference." Except they can, even if they can't articulate why in detail. Beyond that, if movies did have more realistic fight scenes the common audience member would absorb enough just by watching to appreciate clever tactics and understand these things better.

[@etazeta674]

Somewhere in the afterlife, Sun Tzu is banging his head against the nearest surface because of this joke of a movie

[@somberflight]

They used his quote! AAAA

[@bensmith1955]

@@somberflight Which one?

[@somberflight]

@@bensmith1955 "He who moves first controls the enemy."

[@etazeta674]

@@somberflight I’ve read through the art of war twice, and I never saw that 😂

[@somberflight]

@@etazeta674 Hmm...

[@Ally5141]

That movie was so bad a girl made an entire youtube channel to roast it and it was glorious.

[@shosty575]

Mind telling which channel is it

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Tell us man

[@veltro5659]

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[@Ally5141]

Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGS0fKRoacpjfq8

[@shosty575]

@@Ally5141 ty

[@gustavtrads5622]

When Viggo Mortensen kicked the helmet and he broke his toe. That was the real reason why he screamed 😂

[@nicklab1927]

Giving the high ground to the cavalry, IMO, only makes sense as a trap (luring them in, then flanking them with a hidden force), or if the low ground is extremely detrimental to cavalry charge (broken ground, mud, crevices, manmade obstacles like caltrops).

[@popeofsimps2924]

Shad: walls are useless in mulan Me, an intellectual: spiked walls

[@dylancross1039]

And/or people within the walls of the fortress stabbing through little openings on the high walls

[@popeofsimps2924]

@@dylancross1039 that'd work too

[@Isaac-jz9el]

@@dylancross1039 manual spiked walls

[@mustard4762]

Yari walls

[@vinnyvin4287]

Me, a super galaxy brain intellectual: Movable spiked walls that shift at the demand of a unit of men.

[@Nickle_King]

It's sad when an animated Disney film with ghosts, a talking dragon, an intelligent cricket, and song numbers is more realistic than the liveaction movie from the "same" people.

[@pheonixfireblazer]

Not the same people, most likely. Same company, but likely had none of the same people who worked on the original.

[@JanizMakudomaru]

Know what the worst part of this was though? This movie was fuckin BORING. The original one was actually fun to watch and helped it be memorable.

[@JanizMakudomaru]

@DINOBOYXYZ and that's the all around problem with these remakes. No one wanted them, no one asked for them, they add nothing of merit to the story, and overall they're lesser. If anything they should up their hd and rerelease them. I know if they did that I would have payed for it with theatre pricings. ESPECIALLY The Lion King.

[@maskednil]

When a nearly 1 hour video by a KZbinr sitting in a chair for the whole time is more entertaining than a million dollar blockbuster by a gigantic congloremate

[@Light-at-Dawn]

It's sad how many Disney movies and tv shows apply to this statement nowadays.

[@davidniedermeyer8285]

This wasn't a remake it was a rewrite.

[@cynicalmedic252]

Mushu's lines that best describes the live action: "Dishonor! Dishonor on your whole family! Make a note of this: dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow, dis..."

[@Masonio]

Shad: "Let's get down to business, to defeat, bad films."

[@George83_Thomas]

HOOAH

[@scottski02]

"Did they send me simps, when I asked for Chads?"

[@Adhjie]

@@scottski02 shrimp* which is fitting since the huns are bigger it also means puny

[@megamimikyu0720]

Makes plenty of sense that the soldiers basically never shoot a more than one volley of arrows. After holding a draw on a warbow that long, their arms have got to be way to tired for a second draw.

[@noahboncore9846]

Instead of letting her be awesome by learning martial skill and discipline, they gave her Kung Fu super powers. Incredible writing

[@iitim2152]

High Ground- Me recalling Every Total war battle I've ever played. Step by step. 1. Take the high ground. 2. Hold the high ground. 3. Make the enemy March to the high ground. 4. Shoot enemy as they approach the high ground. 5. Shoot the enemy as they climb the high ground. 6. Stab enemy as they reach the high ground. 7. Commit horrible War Crimes with my calvary running the fleeing dogs down as they run from the High Ground. Nah let's form up in the valley.

[@jimmnythecricket1175]

Who are you so wise in the ways of science?

[@kianrodriguez4455]

Disney: *HE'S TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE!*

[@iitim2152]

@@jimmnythecricket1175 I am... BATMAN!

[@alexsawchuk5371]

There is an added step from total war Warhammer since there is magic Step 3.5: use magic on enemy as they approach high ground.

[@albussr1589]

So Obi-Wan was really a total genius ... I GOT THE HIGH GROUND!!

[@thelastronin7035]

Shadiversity: I've been looking forward to this. Mulan: My budget has more than doubled since the original Disney animated film, Shadiversity! Shadiversity: Good. Twice the pride, double the fall.

[@dreadnought448]

Ah a xing tian main

[@tatowerty7236]

underrated comment

[@whiskeysour1179]

...does Mulan decapitate Shad scissor-style in this video??

[@dodojesus4529]

37:20 treebuchets are also quite large and slow to move... The opposite of what an army comprised of horse Archer wants

[@adampetersen2494]

It was awfully generous of Frodo to let Mulan borrow his mithril.

[@nightwishfan1991]

"You missed! How could you miss?! He was three feet in front of you!" -Mushu.

[@nikolai60]

"It's worse than you think" I dunno dude I already have a super low opinion of-OH DEAR LORD

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

They really missed a huge opportunity when they cut out the Grandmother. Imagine if the Grandmother had god level chi like her but she chose to be the house wife and encouraged Mulan to be the great warrior. Oh so many good things could've come out of that.

[@alpinewolf7751]

"Oh jeez. Th'is gonna be rough." One of your best fitting intros so far.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

When you make Kung Fu Panda look realistic.

[@a_fine_edition2746]

I actually really like Kung Fu Panda. I’d be interested in how accurate and realistic the choreography is in those movies though. It certainly impressive visually, though that’s due to it being exaggerated somewhat.

[@gingainfinity1034]

@@a_fine_edition2746 i can understand it not being realistic its a panda for gods sake but i enjoy it

[@ilikedota5]

Oh no, the Wuxi finger hold.

[@thepunishersequence291]

@@al-imranadore1182 *imagines erin and riner as pandas* hmm yeah totaly

[@justacheese34yearsago28]

The difference is that kungfu panda is actually good movie

[@shaggyone5883]

Volley Fire: Command archers to rain down arrows to the enemies Mana Cost: 100 Cooldown: 60 sec

[@Local_commentor]

Reminds me of League Of Legends long ass cooldown and insane mana cost

[@danielwan2410]

arrow not plural

[@thalmorjusticiar1]

@@Local_commentor nah, DOTA is so much worse, you cast 3 abilities and you suddenly have no mana left, and everything has either a 3 second or 30 second cooldown.

[@Local_commentor]

@@thalmorjusticiar1 well now that they have unlimited haste everyone is spamming

[@qwertydavid8070]

Okay during the archer scene I actually had to pause and think to myself. That's not even being stupid, that's just being purposely ignorant. Like, I have no military knowledge at all, yet your sense of common fucking sense tells you how and where to put units most of the times. When you play TABS for example, you naturally know to put some defense in the frontline, everyone else in the middle, and long rage attackers in the back. That just comes to you naturally, you don't even need to figure that out. On what fucking crack where the people who wrote this on when they said "yeah lets put the archers on front".

[@rikvlasblom4272]

46:03 LOL! First two shots were just lucky and hard quick work. Then they went on a tea break. Then their luck ran out I guess, or may be something in the tea.