Flash season 7 is the worst one yet

I thought this show couldn't surprise me anymore. I was VERY wrong.
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[@reeseman1932]

Flash Villain: “I will destroy the whole city😈” Flash and Iris: “you don’t need to do this, I know what you are going through” Flash Villain: “wait, you do?!?😀”

[@frankkennedy6388]

You know what's better? Flash: Let's talk in the hallway. Flash Villain:😀

[@king_poyo64]

STEVEN UNIVERSE

[@darkgoblin8204]

the flash sooo ass

[@kasyfi5546]

Damn, never thought naruto would have a live action adaptation

[@3Guys1Video]

:D “you don’t understand! I will take over this world!”

[@punishedbearzerker5400]

CW: "The Speed Force is dead." Me, who's read the comics: ... then how is anybody/anything moving? You know the lore is that the Speed Force in DC is a fundamental force of the universe that effects all momentum, right? CW: "..." Me: Shit like this is why I stopped watching after season 1.

[@johnandrews8312]

TBF, the speed force breaking has been a topic in the comics since around 2018. And given the foreshadowing of Savitar's prison, it seems it's sticking around as a concept.

[@maninthecamohat2735]

@@johnandrews8312 The speed force breaking is completely different than the speed force dying.

[@johnandrews8312]

@@maninthecamohat2735 Not really. The CW made the distinction in personifying the speed force as a living entity that can die. Meanwhile in the comics, the fear was burning out the speed force, which would have the same result of not being able to access speed.

[@technicalbridger490]

season 2 and 3 are bearable dw

[@AshenDemon]

Bro comics are not the same as the tv show if the show doesn't explain the Speed Force in DC is a fundamental force of the universe that affects all momentum then it's not. Comic and TV Show universes aren't the same.

[@randomindividual769]

Madvocate wasnt picking apart the fight scenes so much as picking apart the writing that goes into these fight scenes and how it basically ripples throughout all of the Flashs overarcing plot.

[@kingacrisius]

Maybe that was his intention, but he basically just talked about the fight scenes, including their setups and endings. Mostly just about how illogical they all are.

[@lexsavage3311]

@@kingacrisius Because of the writing that goes into it. It wasnt just his intention, he did what he set out to do lol.

[@Andiatus]

Not to mention, his videos also cover things like who lives/dies/gets saved or not, as a direct result of those fights, which also affects the plot and the impact of the emotional moments.

[@andrewlisain]

He started doing it in S4 vid

[@boredgamer7841]

yeah I don't see how you can separate the two things. The fight scenes, how they are written and how they play out have a huge impact on the story. I don't know he thinks these two things are mutually exclusive things that don't impact each other.

[@nabongobong9155]

This season successfully obliterate all the barriers there is and ever was 1. They made a speedster villain uninteresting (which wasnt thought possible before) 2. They just ruined one of the most awesome concept and potential storyline from the comics (the forces arc) 3. They literally breaks all the power limitations by bringing the speedforce itself into a human form, turning it from a mysterious force of nature that you cannot control nor understand into just a person that you can bargain or reason with

[@arkamkage7718]

wasnt the forces story in the comics already bad?

[@nabongobong9155]

@@arkamkage7718 it is, but the concept is cool and the potential for the series is huge, atleast until it wasnt

[@Walexander3243]

And call Mom

[@Astro_Mochi]

Its so unfortunate because i actually enjoyed the Godspeed story in the comics but they completely butchered his character in the tv show and made him into some random dude who wants speed (basically a discount Zoom) with cheesy ass lines

[@arkamkage7718]

@@Astro_Mochi what’s the comic series that has Godspeed called?

[@ItsYaBoiBigBozo]

In my wholeheartedly opinion, the show should've ended at the Crisis event. Honestly, it would've been a great series finale and if they wanted to keep it going, then they should've done a reboot of some sort and make it to where the event caused the multiverse to reset with new timelines or something like that.

[@36912conflict]

agreed bro but instead we got some light saber type shit in the last ep

[@phantompillows]

@@36912conflict Should have ended at the season 3 finale. It was a good ending, the hero sacrificing himself to save the world.

[@ItsYaBoiBigBozo]

@@phantompillows Yeah, that also would've been a good series finale if they didn't want to do Crisis.

[@MstEli]

The ballsy choice would've been to kill Barry in Crisis as originally projected, then have the rest of the shows lifetime be with Wally as main character. Kid Flash was wasted in this show, and this would've allowed the character to step up in a big way.

[@ItsYaBoiBigBozo]

@@MstEli Honestly, that sounds a lot better to do than how the seasons actually progressed. Hell, I was hoping Wally would step up ever since he came back with a more spiritual connection to the Speed Connection.

[@AraiiarA]

I had to rewatch Daredevil all over again just to remind myself that superhero shows can be fantastic and aren't all this bad

[@nolimitsayy]

Daredevil is miles better than flash but not better than arrow yeah I said it

[@user-ij7um1ev9w]

​@@nolimitsayy Deathstroke was great

[@KS-db3we]

@@nolimitsayy I think I have just witnessed the dumbest take in the history of mankind.

[@MazdaB-sq4ue]

@@KS-db3we Naw, naw he's on to something. S1 and S2, better then Mr "Killing is bad" daredevil. The Punisher's the best superhero show because he kills people throughout the whole thing. Daredevil overall is better then Arrow, but if we're just looking at when the shows were at their peak, nothing can beat Arrow.

[@Xehanort10]

@@nolimitsayy Daredevil is far better than Arrow. It stayed the superhero show it was supposed to be unlike Arrow which ended up all about Oliver and Felicity's out of nowhere relationship.

[@lncallmetony8957]

killer frost's plot: giving second chances, forgiving people's past mistakes and become a better person CW: Fired Sawyer cause of his long ago tweet that he most likely regretted

[@opinionatortv6457]

This is a certified bruh moment

[@roshambo4137]

Because being a murderous psychopath is obviously better than saying mean words on the internet, _duh._

[@Coolsomeone234]

@@opinionatortv6457 especially when that was Ralph's character in season 4

[@79treefrog]

Stopped watching after that. Then again, it’s not like the show has been worth watching anyway.

[@jebbush6657]

@@roshambo4137 because killer frost is a real person and her victims are real people too, duh /s

[@comixproviderftw_02]

15:16 “This fucking bitch.” Yeah, seems about right.

[@owenmcpeak6935]

I hope flash season 8 starts with reverse flash killing everyone that berry loves

[@GowSpeedrunsAndMemes]

SAME

[@Carolina-vl2nf]

🍓 Aproves this

[@ryannightcore6737]

Spoken like a true god of Logic.

[@Xehanort10]

At this point I'm rooting for Thawne to ruin Barry's life. In the comics Thawne's hatred of Barry is irrational, insane and petty and shown to be such. But through bad writing they've made show Thawne completely justified in hating show Barry. At least when Thawne does evil things they're portrayed as and shown to be evil and unjustified. And Thawne's changing time is shown to be wrong with him admitting that him changing time is selfish and only for his benefit. Whereas Barry has gone from the hero who protected the innocent he was in Season 1 and 2 to a selfish horny prick who only cares about saving Iris. And despite Barry's time changes being just as selfish as Thawne's he was portrayed as heroic and selfless for going back to save his mother when he wasn't.

[@Rainbow-yv5sm]

I so want that to happen

[@ArmamentHaki1]

Madvocate is the reason I’m here after he did the season 3 I was looking for someone else to do something like this but the other seasons

[@danielpurdy9328]

Would Godspeed summoning lightning or absorbing his clones be classed as a "Sky Beam"?

[@Iffythegreat]

Yes

[@Gundam_JAY]

No

[@Defectum138]

Maybe idk

[@תםצורף-פ7ר]

I think so

[@תםצורף-פ7ר]

so we got 5 out of 7 now

[@zalamael]

When I look back (fondly) on Season 1, I realise that it is the nostalgia of it that is what makes me remember it fondly (and I hate nostalgia being used as an argument). The season used a lot of 'mystery box' to drum up intrigue, dropping lots of hints at the deeper story to come. And they worked, because the first time we saw Reverse Flash in the present, the first time we saw Grodd, these were fun and exciting. But the story wasn't that great in the end (it was predictable and stupid in places), and if you rewatch it, it isn't as good, because not only do you know what is coming, the characters have been done to death. For example, when Grodd pitched up in Season 2, was it as exciting as it was in the 1st season? What about in Season 3? Diminishing returns, right? And you said that yourself with Eobard once again turning up. They should have left him out after the Black Flash erased him, ever since then it has just been stupid that he keeps turning up wearing Tom Cavanagh's face with some dumb excuse as to why he is still alive and why he isn't wearing his real face.

[@g3orgge788]

I’m loving ALL this criticism on The Flash Featuring The Flash.

[@Jack-tn1jf]

Same just saw them today

[@g3orgge788]

@Raijin I stopped watching the show around Season 5 because Cicada getting away 108293 times made me pissed tf off and I couldn’t take it anymore so I quit. Sometimes I tap in to see what’s the show like and gosh damn seeing Cecil with powers and Barry (THE FLASH AND A FORENSIC SCIENTIST) still relying on a WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE in SEASON 7!!!!! To tell him how to run fast. And thawne lost his charm and Barry and his dynamic was flushed down the drain when Barry said “I feel sorry for you thawne because you can’t love.” WHO IS WRITING ALL THIS LOVE AND COMPASSION SHIT. No thanks I’ll watch Arrow.

[@g3orgge788]

@Raijin I grew up watching flash and obsessing over it. The irony is the guy who hates the flash the most obsessed over him as much as I did and I ended up hating him. I remember watching arrow for the first time and not liking it but I was a kid so i preferred the goofy and wackiness of the flash. But as I got older I started to like arrow way more and like all the seasons of the arrow even the worst one Season 4 but the flash died for me when cicada got away for the millionth time.

[@rickeysanders2106]

I’m sorry but watching a normal man do all this incredible shit gets old af on the cross over with the Nazis I watched this man stop a construction building from falling using only arrows man get tf outta here but rs the flash is more real then the arrow with all of flash cgi shit is tragic

[@nkuniverse7856]

@@g3orgge788 season 7 is the worst season of the flash ever

[@BharatLagali]

CW's The Flash - destroying enemies by boring them to death with monologues about morality.

[@--_--_--_--_]

That crying at the beginning was way too realistic to be acting.

[@Psusanoo]

How to fix half of the speedster vs speedster battles: Have lightning bolt special effects to show that they are going fast as they attack foes.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

I have a heavy bias for Caitlin but even this season makes her terrible

[@harrambou9468]

Even her charm can’t save it

[@surrotten3354]

@@harrambou9468 Hopefully he talks about the bad acting as well

[@grayman4969]

yeah, they should've not split caitlin and frost

[@baligong3592]

I love how Killer Frost had a "The World isn't Black and White" moment in S5 and when it was Chillblaine's Turn to have that moment she was like "Nah, you're either good or evil"

[@cbmjoe06]

esparanza's death was the worst

[@dfunited1]

I don't watch The Flash because it's good. I watch it before bed because it doesn't matter where I fall asleep, I won't miss anything important.

[@officialprincelouie]

Lmao

[@TheDalinkwent]

I remember seeing this mock poster of The Flash TV show in a forum somewhere once that perfectly summed up the show. It featured Iris and Cecile back to back with their arms crossed, while the other random women and supporting cast make up most of the other people in the poster, meanwhile at the very bottom thats so tiny you almost miss him is...Flash. Made me laugh something fierce.

[@rick7122]

My theory is that most days Flash has a short attention span, so if you strike up a conversation with him fast enough or interesting enough, you will have about a 100% chance of escaping

[@saksham1919]

the worst part was the after credit when barry and iris wanted a baby and barry speedran iris to the bedroom lmao

[@IIIISai]

8:27 Shout outs to s3, my favorite season, it had an amazing vibe, and theme, especially with how flashs enemy was his own self, internal conflicts 👌

[@officialprincelouie]

Same here! Cool pfp btw dude

[@jpogs6976]

Same. S2 takes it by a small margin (I liked multiverse and zoom) IMO.

[@red_cosplay]

Somehow... Palpatine has returned

[@jainambiar2424]

I gave up after season 5 I stuck through season 5 due to loyalty to the show but after season 5 all my loyalty was replaced by the kind of feeling you get when you lose respect for a person you used to respect highly. You just feel sad, disappointed that they let you down. You want to like them but it's too hard to. That's exactly how I feel about season 6 and onwards tbh.

[@tonybablony2041]

All I thought about while watching the last fight was when Rick said "c'mon kids we got to go do a fucking, piece of shit, star wars" I can't be the only one

[@praveenvijeyakumar741]

Here's how I feel about Season 7: Episode 2 was great, it felt like we were back in Season 2 again (that was the episode with super-intelligent Barry, the Babel protocols, and speedster Frost). Every other episode, and _I do mean _*_every_*_ other episode_ , was garbage.

[@vishnutheetharappan7074]

I haven't finished the video yet, but I hope you mention how the stakes are near zero because nobody dies ever. In season 1 and 2 there were high stakes because actual core characters like Eddie, Ronnie, and Henry Allen died. Season 3 had less stakes since they chickened out of killing Iris and instead killed HR. It was the beginning of the end for the stakes. Season 4 had no deaths (Ralph died but he came back the next episode so whatever). Season 5 had no deaths (yea Nora died but her return was heavily implied). Season 6 was the biggest offender, chickening out of the death of the flash, something they'd been building up to since the beginning of the show. And Season 7 didn't even try (Nash died and was replaced by the next wells in literally the next episode, esperanza died but nobody cared about her)

[@chikowashere]

A small thing that I've always hated about the show is the constant use of slow mo. I wanna see the Flash be the Flash, not be any other hero when you see him slowed down.

[@neonexjpxfrd4145]

Oh wow I must have not been paying attention at all, I don’t remember seeing the nightmare guy without a mask

[@ladyblubel]

The way the Godspeed plot could have been fixed if the Speedforce acted like an actual god and started just killing the Godspeed clones to stop them. Barry, with his no killing rule, decides to stop her because there are sympathetic clones. It gives us the angst of him fighting someone with his mom’s face, he’s fighting a LITERAL GOD, and his speed is at risk because he’s fighting the speedforce, creating an internal and external conflict that can work together.

[@MaelCott1]

Idk how, but they managed to make almost every action scene look like a shitpost

[@JP-se5kf]

I think the reason they redeemed Mirror Mistress and other villains is because people were ticked off about the firing of Hartley Sawyer who's character is him changing to be a better man do they try to force the whole "people can change" down their throats to show people that they actually care.

[@anon-ud9mq]

I’m a casual and even I didn’t like it either. I was actually hyped for it, expecting it to be mainly about Godspeed (or at least the second half after the Speed Force shit), but it was just a few episodes. Really, the only redeemable thing about it for me is the Earth-1’s original Wells being introduced (and barely used, sadly) and the return of Reverse Flash. Normally I can’t relate to people who say “show sucks after season X”, but in this case, I can firmly say my favorite seasons were 1 and 2, and by the time the show had Cicada (s4 I think?) it was starting to fall. Arguably you could say the Devoe season was worth it primarily for Ralph Dibny, but he isn’t in 7th season (and I honestly think the actor wasn’t even there, since the brief appearance of him has his face unrecognizable).

[@anon-ud9mq]

I like the idea of a physical form of the Speed Force, and others, but it irritates me how a God, a multiversal force of Nature, who acted without much emotion prior in the show, miraculously starts to have feelings now to the point it becomes emo-wearing black lipstick with darkened hair and leather. Another question I had was: Where is Wally? I remember him being pissed at Barry for fucking up the Speed Force, making him lose the best part of his new life, but then we don’t see him at all when Barry creates an artificial one and revives the real one. Least favorite season, and while I wanna say I want to watch future ones, it’s gonna depend on who the big bad is for the season. I’ve ranted long enough, I haven’t even started the video yet.

[@vangler6492]

cicada was season 5 . But then again you probably already know by now .

[@Nutbag517]

Honestly the best part of season 7 is that one shot of Barry with a stupid grin on his face after he got "whammy'd". That actually got a genuine laugh out of me

[@VitoMC.]

Idk why I'm even watching this when I still haven't finished season 6

[@Carolina-vl2nf]

But season 6 is better than this one. Hahaha, I think from this one you have enough with this video. It's just.. Horrible. I used to love the flash but only had 7 ep of this season bc it's cringe and horrible

[@spider-man8186]

Idk why I’m watching this when I’ve never watched the flash

[@moosenman]

I disagree with you on fight scenes. Because fight scenes contribute to the plot whether they want to or not. In a well done fight, it keeps the plot going the way it’s supposed to, and doesn’t create massive plot holes like with captain cold. A fight scene should at the very least give reason as to why someone isn’t defeated. You know?

[@yetrz]

Now The Flash is just like Power Rangers

[@ironmiron9666]

The new design for the modern White Power ranger is really tight.

[@reverseflashplays8615]

It’s the fake lightsabers for me

[@samuelb2375]

Saying that someone is straight up copying other creators is a bad look

[@guyincognito82]

Eric Wallace ruined everything with his "Love can fix anything bullshit".

[@loudtaste1046]

I miss season 1 and 2

[@callumhulme5503]

“Good one thawne (sigh) see you next season”

[@Unknown23430]

That got a chuckle outta me. Lmao.

[@callumhulme5503]

@@Unknown23430 coming back to it made me laugh

[@khalidahmed8402]

If Barry is so much faster than Thawne to where Thawne moving at super speed is frozen still then why does he need his help defeating Godspeed, especially when Thawne is much faster and someone who is extremely dangerous. He also lets go to kill more people, some hero.

[@blazethegame]

I miss the days of season 2

[@officialprincelouie]

Same

[@YouSoJames]

the ryan george cameo was gold

[@AshenDemon]

Bruh from what I've seen the action is, hit, hit *SLOW MOTION* , hit, hit *MORE SLOW MOTION* , hit, *YOU'LL NEVER GET TIRED OF THIS EXCESSIVE SLOW MOTION!*

[@baconman2366]

i would like to say pristine character assassination with Nora having basically no actual memory of who she was a season ago cuz of thawn, and Bart being a character we don't know who Barry just accepts without hesitation even though barry has no idea who bart is? like no idea why this isn't touched on at all

[@bathtubsalot9004]

used to watch flash when i was 12, now i understand everything

[@cambriaalise2014]

What I hate so much is it started off so strong. I know technically they first couple episodes were meant to be a part of season 6, but up to where all the Wells sacrificed themselves and barry had speed thinking and was whooping his teams behind, I enjoyed the show more than I have in a long time. It was just downhill from there

[@knightsoftheroundpeople2676]

the lightning looks wierd, has anyone noticed that?

[@nanners8814]

Mark(frost boyfriend) doesn’t die. I think we all wished he did

[@ricaard]

Being able to toss in Ryan is super easy, barely an inconvenience!

[@Very_Broke_445]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Bungee gum has the properties of both rubber AND gum.

[@PegasusPablo]

I hate how Frost's powers are basically smokey gusts of wind!

[@BreezyDylan]

I personally really enjoyed the light saber fight. Its because its something different and interesting and fun to watch. I actually really enjoyed everything about this season (except for 7x12) that was the most cringey episode of The Flash. I like how they finally gave Joe a sub plot and something to do. I actually didn't mind the break dancing Barry did, It made me cringe and question why am I watching this show but I still enjoyed it overall. I like how everyone (except for Caitlin) got there own sub plots. That is something I enjoyed about this season. I still love this show no matter what and will always watch the episodes no matter how cringe it is.

[@MoonlessSky_]

I can see why you enjoyed it, but imo that wouldve only looked cool in 2010, lmao… also how exactly are they holding lightning….? When did they even learn this ability…. They’re speedsters, why would they fight at normal speed. Also barry had no training in swordfighting whatsoever, how did he win the fight, ahhhh i hate this show

[@BreezyDylan]

@@MoonlessSky_ U do realize that Thawn was the one who stabbed Godspeed right? There shouldn't need to be an explanation for a one time thing. They got the ability because Nora literally super charged them and gave them more powers. Why else? What's wrong with the light saber fight? U just want the same old boring speedster fight ever time?

[@MoonlessSky_]

@@BreezyDylan no i wanted barry to convert godspeed into a good guy with the power of love and friendship like naruto wouldve Stupid narutard

[@BreezyDylan]

@@MoonlessSky_ Dude I agree I don't understand the Talk no jutsu that's used in both The Flash and Naruto.

[@wamalam]

you forgot something... the fact that Bart Allen is supposed to be Barry's grandchild and not his son!

[@Xehanort10]

And in the comics Wally's his and Iris's nephew not his adopted and Iris's biological brother.

[@MotorStonder]

I love the inclusion of random toy photos in the video

[@spartacusthebringerofrain3007]

Barry was the fastest motivational speaker alive

[@KratosCar]

Weird opinion: The costumes are decent and nice at times and great and cool at others. Well for the super powered beings of good and evil that have costumes and aren't wearing normal boring ass clothes

[@pokerations]

Flash be like Villain: Ima destroy a random universe because I wanna Flash:I'm scared Speed force: fight him moron Flash: Your right Conclusion: flash cares about a universe made of nintendos but now his own

[@expandapantsii341]

“The CW, it’s been seven years, you still owe us better CGI”

[@ryannightcore6737]

Gotta respect this comment. If you disagree I have a lawyer and we’ll send you to the death. and you can’t escape with the SpeedForce this time. 😎

[@spencercarlton4006]

It's better than the gunshots from arrow season 1

[@zaccyfn]

Ik

[@Lokear]

@@JohnGodfrey141 Nice, so I wasn't the only one to get it :)

[@tannerparks6030]

I'd take better writing over better CGI every time

[@alexforce9]

I wanna be one of those guys in the Godspeed costumes that just...standing there M E N A C I N G LY !

[@gmax98]

Godspeed: Oh? Your approaching me Flash? Flash: I can’t beat the s*** out of you without running closer.

[@MunchFilmz]

@@gmax98 Godspeed: then run as close as you like

[@ansutoure5583]

They should’ve use whoever was in the Godspeed costume for episode 16 and the voice because let’s be honest the actor who’s playing him nothing against him but the dude is way too skinny for a costume and the voice is incredibly ridiculous like what the hell

[@nkuniverse7856]

@@ansutoure5583 ikr godspped,s voice is so bad he sounds like a power ranger villain lol

[@sjahbw]

Ko

[@PickyPaige]

Producer Guy: So now that the speed forces is dead, it's gonna be really hard for Flash to get his speed back. Screenwriter Guy: Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvinience. Producer Guy: Oh, really? Screenwriter Guy: Yeah, Barry and Iris's love for each other creates a spark that rebirths the speed force. Producer Guy: The love of two human beings, rebirths a multidimensional entity? Screenwriter Guy: No! Producer Guy: Oh! Screenwriter Guy: It also creates 3 more multidimensional entities. Producer Guy: Oh My God! Screenwriter Guy: And they call Barry and Iris their Mom and Dad! Producer Guy: Please Stop!

[@przemor1150]

wow is this really a thing? I havent watched this season

[@תםצורף-פ7ר]

I agree 100

[@תםצורף-פ7ר]

@@przemor1150 pls don't for your own good just don't

[@jesiahdray5285]

@@przemor1150 if I were you I would just watch episodes 1,2,3 and 15,16,17,18

[@sethmichel6138]

I'm just gonna add that the way that it was originally created in the Flash comics is Barry, by creating a paradox, he created it and it expands to all space and time so it could be there when Barry was supposed to obtain his powers. If instead of there love it was Barry sacrificing his speed to recreate the speed force (not an artificial one but the true speed force) and in doing so he found a way to regain it, it would be a better idea and tie into how without Barry there isn't a speed force just like how without the speed force there is no Flash

[@nikg5393]

The entire final episode of season 7 is just lightning. No speed just lightning, thor could have replaced barry it wouldn't make a difference

[@spiceboyog9083]

No it would make more sense

[@nikg5393]

@@spiceboyog9083 True. Also I just noticed how everyone shoots lightning and then just sits and waits for everyone else

[@firesnakex8]

How dare you not appreciate the lightning shurikens, lightning whip, and lightning sword

[@nikg5393]

@@firesnakex8 Don't forget about the lightning captain america shield/ salad bowl

[@canadaball9777]

It was star wars.

[@ed1434]

Can't wait for "flash season 8 is the worst season yet" video

[@mattflub]

Well they keep on outdoing themselves on how bad this shitty show can get

[@therealpat_]

Honesty season 7 wasn t that bad💀 Season 5 may forever be the worst one

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@@therealpat_ srry but season 7 was and is that bad

[@alius9392]

@@therealpat_ nah season 5 atleast had fighting and interesting moments even though Nora was a little annoying along with the villain being lame. But this season removed two of the best characters of the show as regulars, the villains were given no substance, the whole season was talking, and the best episode of the season (the speed thinking one) went literally no where.

[@qifuhyue3568]

@@alius9392 season 6 and 7 are equally as bad, season 5 was when all the chracters started turning stupid and always letting the villains escape. Even Supergirl characters are smarter than them

[@awhryan]

The only thing that made Thawn bearable during the finale was Tom Cavanaugh's amazing performance, as always.

[@dansandoval9330]

Francly im tired of Tom, still love him but its quite burned and Matt should come back

[@Middas]

@@dansandoval9330 i agree. Tom’s rf is overused and matt’s performance is soooo much better

[@smileyface2228]

Actually I'm only watching because of Cavanaugh

[@thawne4235]

If they keep "using" his cameos like this, it will get old at a point. A good actor can only do so much if the writing is shit.

[@Middas]

@Enyaba i say its better. tom’s rf only worked bcs he was playing two personas. after season 1, his rf wasnt really all that impactful to me atleast.

[@eugeneburn]

Madvocate’s criticisms of season 1 and 2 don’t just break down the fight scenes. They show where the fight scenes break down the plot. If a fight should have been over instantly, as you recognize, then entire episodes just shouldn’t have happened.

[@imallsoupedup]

Like he said in the video, the fight scenes only serve to push the plot. Ofc Barry would have ended some of the episodes in 5 mins, that fact is being acknowledged and he’s accepted that they won’t make sense. The vid clearly said that in the first 4 minutes.

[@calemr]

@@imallsoupedup But if the entire conflict within the story is built upon narrative contrivances, that's bad writing.

[@imallsoupedup]

@@calemr i completely agree with you, i think the flash is written poorly

[@Y.uushii]

They just couldn't do something entertaining (at least a lot of people think that it is) and that make sense at same time with a speedster, but honestly, I think it is possible, they just couldn't

[@MajiinQ94]

This comment my thoughts exactly

[@ninjafrog6966]

I still can’t believe they actually thought a speedster lightsaber duel was a good idea and wouldn’t look incredibly stupid

[@Valkyreon]

I understand why they wanted to try something new after 83249 speedster fights. But this... Imagine how cool it could have looked if that happened during a chase, where they threw lightning at each other and then... just caught it - followed by a Lightning saber fight in superspeed (slow-motion).

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

They could have made it cool by making them fight at hight speed. But noooooo They just stand there and swing them around.

[@ninjafrog6966]

@@malikpierre-louis3343 it would still look goofy. barely anyone likes the idea of speed force constructs. nobody liked them in the comics either

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

@@ninjafrog6966 Yeah but It would still be alot better if it wasn't just static movement.

[@miracles4219]

Fight scenes are pretty indicative of the writing quality of the story tho. For exmaple: if Barry didn't stop to talk to zoom and actually put him in the pipeline his dad wouldn't be dead

[@kylebros4288]

dude fr

[@kio4896]

I think the problem is they write the story and big plot points first and then insert the fights around them. So the writer's were like, "Barry's dad dies gets killed by Zoom in front of him" and then they work backwards from that, which causes fights to not make sense.

[@TheNo15]

It's hard for me to understand how you can have scenes in a story, have characters blatantly forget their powers to fulfill the plot points they want, and still have proper stakes. I could totally understand if a fight scene is nonsensical but the outcome is the same (for example, you could say that the luke vs darth vader fight isnt well choreographed, but it's logical that vader wins). But in flash, whoever wins seems almost entirely arbitrary and based on the writer's whims. I'm trying to understand how to properly enjoy the show with this in mind, even in season 1 and 2.

[@eem2wavy133]

Exactly. I didn’t really understand his point when he said “ I don’t care about fight scenes, only the story” when both are the same thing as fight scenes tell a story as well. Overall it’s just a poor excuse fir bad writing honestly

[@kushtheone4940]

The whole point of speed is being able to surprise your enemies, move before your enemy can react. That's not the case in this show. Barry always has a 5 minute talk with some random meta with normal human reaction time and he still somehow loses. Like if he took a meta power dampening cuff, put it on the meta and then started talking i would understand but nooooo. Not to mention he makes the most stupid decisions despite him being able to think in flash time which by the way can make seconds into hours for barry at minimum. Heck, in comics, barry and wally can count in attosecond time frames which means a second to a human is equivalent to 31 billion years for barry and wally. They still somehow get destroyed because of poor writing

[@vincentcalabrese9157]

I just hate that no matter who the villain is, Iris is like “we don’t need to fight them let’s just talk to them for 30mins & they’ll give up and become good guys”. So he’s the “fastest man alive” yet EVERY speedster is faster than him.

[@sakaririchard8810]

no, every speedster is not faster than him. Bart is slower, Nora is slower, Thawne is slower, Iris is slower, Wally is slower, Jesse (was) slower (she's dead now, I guess). this reads like a comment from someone who hasn't watched the show since Season 2 and thinks in the intro you still hear "My name is Barry Allen"

[@FerunaLutelou]

@@sakaririchard8810 I think the complaint is not that Barry remains as the slowest speedster, but that every time a new speedster villain appears its always "guys, he's faster than me, I cant beat him". It doesnt matter that now he is faster than all the previous speedsters that appeared and got beaten. Also, there are plenty of other problems.

[@rickeysanders2106]

I mean how is he a villain if he’s not Competition the villain is suppose to make him faster

[@FerunaLutelou]

@@rickeysanders2106 uuuuh no, villain doesnt have to be more powerful to be a threat. Even the simple fact that a villain is willing to hurt innocent people and the one instigating the conflict are advantageous enough to be a threat while not having any superpowers at all. Add even a weaker speedster power with a few new techniques for Barry to figure out, and that would be more than enough to make the conflict entertaining. Add something more, like actual planning and superior intellect and it will only get better. If the antagonist is a non speedster then either let them have a power that can interfere with Barry's powers, make him ess effective or something like that. If the antagonist doesnt have any of that, they dont qualify as an antagonist and should be either taken down immediately, or maybe even offscreened. Why? Cause no matter what you do with them, they will either be annoying, boring, or worse - both. You can have such villains as comic relief characters, but not as serious antagonists that have actual screentime. Why the criteria are so strict? Cause Barry's superspeed breaks and exploits physics, while also providing him with multiple other bullshit advantages (bullshit reaction speed, healing factor, thought acceleration, etc.). Its a top tier power package, so by default the enemies HAVE to be top tier threats as well, not just some guy who can make a mini hurricane.

[@Gundam_JAY]

Yeah know except wally.... and bart.... and nora... and Jay.... and thawne

[@Xehanort10]

18:14 Apparently the Godspeed of the comics is an extreme vigilante type trying to get Barry to see that some evil people deserve to die which sounds better than show Godspeed's cliche "I shall become a god" thing.

[@harrambou9468]

Godspeed is one of the only anti-hero speedsters. Sounds awesome doesn’t it Yea it woulda been nice

[@legolad7477]

The only thing they kept was his name and his costume, and his costume was his best part (coincidence, I THINK NOT)

[@Xehanort10]

@@legolad7477 He was basically Savitar in a spandex suit instead of a robot one.

[@baligong3592]

Give Jason Todd the Speed Force and you can picture Godspeed... Although this is quite surface level, since even Godspeed himself said he doesn't want to be seen as the "baddie" of the group.

[@baligong3592]

@@Xehanort10 And more Stereotypical too, because at least Savitar wasn't just doing evil stuff for the sake of being Evil

[@SheevTalks]

Quick update well over a year later: the section at the beginning of this video where I low-key talked shit about Madvocate, accused him of being a copy-cat and undermined the importance of coherent fight scenes is all wrong and was frankly out of line. Madvocate is a cool dude and someone I consider a friend, and I’m honestly embarrassed to have ever said any of that stuff. Not taking the video down as this is still one of the vids I’m most proud of, but that section right at the beginning is wrong and in bad taste. My sincerest apologies to the Mad Lad.

[@ShudowWolf]

You pointed out a good channel to me - and MauLer which I hadn't watched up until that point. Also another fellow Kenobi basher (which is how I got into your channel in first place) so I'd say it's better it was included than not--even if it was a bit of a rough inclusion.

[@melon6825]

Yeah I was gonna say that in the comments but then I saw your apology lol. Good video!

[@Aisubun]

Yeah that felt really bizarre so I'm glad you addressed this

[@vampireguy24]

Still disliking you and going right back over to him. Don't care if you're "friends", *we* aren't friends. What an elitist, backhanded, snide remark, too, calling out someone's content that's better than yours with baseless remarks. And then you say "whoopsy doopsy, I'm so sorry, we're fwends now" and that makes it better? How petty can you get?

[@SheevTalks]

@@vampireguy24 👍🏻

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Speed Force Lightsabers are THE BAT CREDIT CARD for a whole new generation of fans.

[@oneandonlysound3453]

Also whipping lasso of truth lightning was pretty awful, toss nora west-allen some more trash as if anyone actually ever wanted to see her again after how crap Season 5 was.

[@_Anakin_Skywalker]

No they're really not

[@oneandonlysound3453]

@@_Anakin_Skywalker Your right, it's more like the batwoman version of the batmobile.

[@alexknj1]

This show has a lot of good ideas, and fails miserably at all of them. In a good show, bringing back a season one villain to help in a later season because the hero is now completely able to handle them could be such a cool way to show growth and establish an interesting new dynamic. And this show just doesn't.

[@magicalowl4322]

no but there are other consistent things in this series like iris who never stops talking, all wells are always doomed, Run barry, run and getting hit by things that are a lot slower then a flash

[@evenhartwick4422]

it also doesn't help when they reveal reverse flash to be so much weaker than the Flash that it basically looks like he's moving in slow motion. if godspeed is much faster than flash and Flash is much faster than Reverse Flash than shouldn't reverse flash have gotten his ass beat in that fight? why did it look like they were all comparable to each other when they clearly aren't

[@magicalowl4322]

@@evenhartwick4422 yeah i thought of that too, i wasn't really necessary and looks like they tried to find a reason to bring him back. I was fine with the fact that reverse flash can't die bc he is an time paradoxon and that he will never be gone forever why not going with that.

[@goShinigami]

I mean, The Flash as a media installment is over 80 years old , so there is a lot of source material and now and than a capable writer made some good storylines and characters for the comic. Hence "the good ideas" the CW Flash show tries to adapt but fails horribly at translating a comic book to an enjoyable TV show. The showwriters are bad, the channel they publish it for probably commands silly stuff yet has little money to spare for higher quality superhero effect stuff and let's be honest, with the execption of very few actors/actresses, the show struggles to get good people.

[@haku8135]

Why was Thon even there if Barry is SO much faster than him? What could he possibly contribute? It's like Superman calling Batman for help kicking down a door. Sure he's strong in his own right, but what the hell can Batman contribute in comparison?

[@chris-tianmothman]

My biggest complaint is that the show seems like "Team Flash, guest starring The Flash" because at this point, side characters who shouldn't even be here anymore get more attention than Barry consistently. Why tf is Cecile still in the show? Why do you waste characters you already have yet continue to add pointless new ones with one episode of relevance at most? This is a problem that has plagued the show for *years* yet they do nothing about it because "hmmm, yes mommy" and all that. This show needs to end before it gets even worse.

[@eobardthawn6903]

And people also shit on shows for not giving side characters enough screentime. It should be more of in the middle, and Barry should be astronomically smarter then he is now. First few episodes, Barry was investigating a crime as a forensic scientist, and his syneastaia was evident, he could physically see the train tracks. He can also speedread a book of 1000 words in secends, WITH comprehension. Like, wtf? Then you have pretentious "scientists" who are somehow much smarter then the guy.

[@scribbr5730]

Don't worry one more season!

[@scribbr5730]

Eobard Thawn Barry never gets smarter

[@chris-tianmothman]

@@eobardthawn6903 agreed

[@chris-tianmothman]

@@scribbr5730 I hope it's only one more. And that maybe they can do it right.

[@zacphoenix111]

"Doesn't that make thawne the father of all meta humans?" Yes, Thawne is daddy

[@ChaplainJoshua]

Based

[@sabrel4975]

Apparently Tom Cavanaugh is a DILF now

[@eddydrouet1888]

@@sabrel4975 always has been

[@jonathanathor117]

I read that in Veronica Lodge's voice.

[@spencercarlton4006]

*meta daddy

[@FeastForThought]

I'm usually also not the one who complaints about every inconsistency with super-powers. But if the powers of your protagonist are so all over the place that you can't predict how even a single one of those encounter plays out, because the power is dependent on what the writer needs at that point in time, there is absolute no tension especially in a series where almost all conflicts are solved through "super-power"-battles.

[@sarahk651]

YES! Finally someone is talking about how cringy those pep talks for villains are! Thank you!

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

If you hate season 7 of The Flash: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX26oJavjLSCeac

[@Xehanort10]

Barry might as well be going "Irredeemably evil criminal with no guilt for their actions whatsoever don't do this" then speeds off thinking just saying that will reform them right away.

[@ihearttylerthecreatorr]

Exactly, they need to learn in order to defeat the villains --- you have to kill them at times. not all villains can be redeemed by stupid prep talks about "this isn't you, you're better than this".

[@nothingbutnet35]

Like seriously, fuck the pep talks

[@Llamu]

Yeah like THEY DEFEATED THE MAIN VILLAIN OF S6 BY CONVINCING HER TO FUCKING STOP I SWEAR TO GOT I CANT

[@ryannightcore6737]

Jay: We’re not gods. We’re men, who for whatever reasons have been given extraordinary abilities Godspeed: And I took that personally **murders Jay**

[@Gundam_JAY]

Haha nice

[@justinpereira4179]

@@Gundam_JAY what’s more better season 4 Arrow or season 7 flash

[@Gundam_JAY]

@@justinpereira4179 definitely season 7 flash. Flash never got ad a bad as arrow imo

[@jyrahoj152]

Bruh-

[@Gundam_JAY]

@@jyrahoj152 well the gut isn't wrong

[@Vidyut_Gore]

Barry's mom calls him dad, Barry's foster sister is his wife. The writers couldn't even get basic relationships right.

[@officialprincelouie]

It’s funny how catlin hasn’t properly been in the flash since season fucking 3...

[@Spidey-oi5sn]

Well Barry literally erased the original Caitlin and Cisco from the existence by creating Flashpoint, which is considered universal mass genocide, very fucked up right? The timeline we're seeing now is completely altered, it's not the original one that we've seen from S1 and S2, and that makes me feel really uncomfortable, no wonder why this show is beyond repair, they ruined everything.....

[@enderlovesbagels101]

@@Spidey-oi5sn let’s also remember back in season fucking 1 when he went back in time a day and that was never addressed again.

[@officialprincelouie]

@Toilet lol

[@b3byb4t]

@@Spidey-oi5sn It’d be funny if at the end of the show we find out all of these shit villains and horrible storylines are a result of flashpoint.

[@sbsb147]

@@b3byb4t that would be the best excuse

[@Lordship1021]

The stupid part about barry being so much faster than thawne in the end is the fact that thawne seemed as fast as or faster than barry while chasing godspeed

[@alabamii]

Also, doesn’t Thawne get faster anytime Barry gets faster because of the negative speedforce shit?

[@Lordship1021]

@@alabamii in the comics yes. But in the show it's been stated like twice that barry is so much faster than thawne and the older speedsters now. Theres no mention of thawne getting fast right along side barry in the show, only the comics

[@wamas1234]

@@Lordship1021 why do you think that Barry let Thawne go in season 7?

[@Lordship1021]

@@wamas1234 I know barry is way faster rn, but my point is that thawne was able to keep pace with barry and godspeed and the fact that barry brought in thawne bc he needed help with godspeed

[@wamas1234]

@@Lordship1021 no I understand what you're saying. I'm just laughing at the writers decision to make Barry let Thawne go in such an unlikely way considering who he is and what he can do *cough* *cough* start of season 8.

[@jayzeeee1234]

Even a person evil as me, wouldn't dare use Flash S7 episodes as a torture method, it is too vile and cruel for my taste.

[@Real_V1nce]

You thought that your first reply to your comment was gonna be something related but IT WAS I DIO

[@jayzeeee1234]

@@Real_V1nce Ah, DIO my nemesis, wanna go out for a drink, maybe get a steak?

[@TockTaxTom]

"I'm Bart Allen AKA Impulse and I'm the dumbest piece of shit alive" that caught me off guard lmao 💀

[@vanidas5719]

Chillblaine feels like a self-insert for a writer with sociopathic tendencies. He kills people, he admits to brutal human experimentation, and Frost still has feelings for him. Not to mention the incredibly cringy dialogue, and the fact that not one plot point of any scene he was in made any sense whatsoever. Oh, and I love the part where he's going on about "Oh, you can't even imagine what I could do with those powers!" And his epic new supervillain ability is putting ice on her face so she can't see... 10/10 reveal.

[@antm4291]

frrrrr. I love frost but her storyline was so shit especially when thy tried to set her up with chillblaine who should've been a weekly meta villain at most. Her and Cait should've stayed as one whole

[@vanidas5719]

@@antm4291 Yeah, when I heard there was a breakout at Iron Heights, I thought about all the villains they could've brought back. Instead, they brought back the worst in the series. Whyyyyyy?

[@antm4291]

@@vanidas5719 exactly, could’ve had em on the loose and Barry and to capture em again only this time they’re more experienced and mad sicne barry has locked em up for a while but nope let’s bring the most cringe and sexuslized character of all time but it’s the flash ran by Eric Wallace, idk why I even had expectations

[@vanidas5719]

@@antm4291 Or they could've realized that Eric Wallace was the real villain, and banded together to take him down. The possibilities are endless.

[@תםצורף-פ7ר]

@@vanidas5719 super agreed also go watch superman and lois instade I know flash was good ones but saddly I don't even think they can get close to that level now for me the dialogue is just so bad

[@d3va383]

I genuinely hate what they did with the forces in the show, psych is now just a cringe version of freddy krueger, fuerza is just a damsel in distress and they replaced steadfast with deon. Bro wtf. Fuerza was a badass hero who protected her people against the corrupt government of her country, psych was a bad ass criminal who was a god gambler and a powerful villain in the sort of crime hierarchy and Steadfast was an awesome ally of the flash who also had a cool mystical element to his personality, now Fuerza is a scared girl with amnesia who sometimes turns into an albino hulk, Psych is now a cringe villain with a clunky suit who’s only power is fear or some shit and “Deon” is a scared kid who’s so insecure he just plays god and doesn’t seek help. After that, they instantly become good guys and talk like it's a horrible sibling fetish video on Pornhub. "Hello sister", like fr stfu. (BTW love the Ryan George reference lol). Edit: I also forgot to mention this, why the fuck does the turtle still exist? And how do his powers work if the still force isn’t present in him. (And technically the still force isn’t the same as in the comics but whatever) This storyline raises so many damn questions that kinda ruin the continuity of the show. (With the sage force especially)

[@Water-tg8pq]

Fr they felt unnecessary and irrelevant to ne

[@Xehanort10]

The mask made Psych look like Ivan Ooze from Power Rangers.

[@littlered6340]

Fuerza made me so upset because I LOVED her. I LOVED her. She wanted to arm wrestle superman. She wanted to save her country. This version is barely even a shadow.

[@ansutoure5583]

Amen

[@baligong3592]

Not only that, they also Butchered the Still Force. Still Force isn't a Time Manipulation Force, it was simply a Force that was the opposite of Speed Force, being that it slows Everything Else down instead of Speeding Yourself up. The Force Wars wasn't even about Family, it was about Barry trying to learn more about the different Force while Losing his Speed and protecting every New Force Users from Black Flash. I hope one day, these Characters get a Proper personality and introduction.

[@ElultimoDurako]

I blame the CW bad writing etc, Stargirl is a great show by far and has less budget, I hope they do S8 actually good, if not I see S&L and Stargirl going better.

[@baligong3592]

Thing is: Superman and Lois is essentially being done by HBO and CW just claiming it as their own. Stargirl's Showrunner is the creator of Stargirl.

[@SNGamiiing]

^

[@glazed_waffle5629]

@@baligong3592 Yup I think that's part of the reasoning why both shows succeed but then again Titans sucks so who knows.

[@doofer6863]

Creator of star girl wouldn’t let the show be trash

[@shahanahsan05]

Superman and Lois and Stargirl are two masterpieces

[@reedified6514]

I was in 4th grade when The Flash first aired. I remember hyping up to watch it weeks before the release and then settling in the living room every tuesday night to watch it, and then talk about the episode the next day with my best friend. I absolutely loved the show. Season 1 - 4th grade. Season 2 - 5th grade. Season 3 - 6th grade. I loved the show, and so did my best friend since kindergarten. Starting in 7th grade, I began to drift from my best friend and this show started to become progressively bad. The Flash had been a huge part of my life and was one of my favorite things in the world. I stopped having anyone to talk to about it, and watched through season 4 alone. Then came season 5. It sucked, and said friend and I have completely drifted. When season 6 aired, I had no desire what so ever to watch it. Mostly because the previous seasons sucked, but also because I associated The Flash with my best friend and our memories. I managed to watch 3 episodes of the 6th season on Netflix and laughed at how bad it was, but was happy because I felt a twinge of glee thinking about the actors who made part of my childhood and my best friend who i shared those memories with.

[@_Anakin_Skywalker]

Season 5 was not so bad, but I agree

[@jinn1283]

@@_Anakin_Skywalker mid at best to be honest

[@artemis8396]

Lol you should watch season 9 and message that friend again asking what they thought of the finale

[@sindhupa9691]

Let's be real- The Flash series died when our hero HR died instead of that annoying Iris sh#t

[@impulse5674]

The potential the show could’ve had if they actually killed off Iris in season 3. This could’ve made things so interesting. Seeing Barry deal with it and trying to avoid turning into how he was in the alternate future where he abandons everyone could’ve been really interesting. Maybe when he fought crime he would’ve been more aggressive and no longer tries to talk down criminals

[@decadewgame9802]

Which season was it?

[@vangler6492]

@@decadewgame9802 season 3 .

[@salembendeck]

Yessss HR could've genuinely saved this show.

[@RubyIzfet]

The best thumbnail I've seen in awhile. Take this like.

[@llamagames6803]

Everytime i see it i wanna laugh

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

Eric Wallace has admitted that when he first came on to the show in Season 4, there were a bunch of new writers that came along with him. You can see Eric slowly replacing Todd's role on the show even ever since S4, as he was part of the writing team and wrote a couple of key episodes, then became an executive producer in S5 and after that, became the sole executive producer AKA the showrunner in S6. The writing is on the wall. Todd Helbing has done so good at Superman & Lois, and he wrote a very very good black character in John Henry Irons. Race isn't the issue here, it's a matter of competence or lack thereof.

[@ErenMC_]

"It can't be the worst if there's something worse"- The Flash Season 4

[@whynot9421]

That season is better than 3 imo. Maybe I just think that because he was the first non speedster villain. DeVoe was also quite strong.

[@bfocbloops]

Light saber fight threw me off thought I was watching Star Wars

[@officialprincelouie]

SAMEE Except I thought it was just a discount version of it

[@randomstuff3413]

Fuerza punches Abrakadabra: *dies* Fuerza punches Cisco: *minor damage*

[@Xehanort10]

Cisco had the greatest defence. Plot armour.

[@clarkkent163000]

The dude took a hit literally everybody takes almost every episode and died

[@fatboysamurai4419]

He was polka dot man in suicide squad, they always kill off characters whos actors are in other movies

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Cisco is too powerful than Abrakadabra.

[@jaypaul15]

@@comixproviderftw_02 Both were humans tho.

[@joeker5208]

“When season 7 is making me nostalgic for season 3” You know shits bad when we miss Savitar

[@barry8871]

man, just resurrect Savitar and have him kill all the villain, he wouldn't have trouble doing that, maybe he's not as fast as the current Barry but who care, not like Barry was using speed to fight anyway.

[@ZentoBrinebg]

i'm still fucking salty they "redeemed" so many villains this season but Savitar, the emotionally broken Barry who lost everything, had to be killed off

[@ryannightcore6737]

The fact you think he should kill every villian ONLY is hilarious. He should also kill Cisco, Caitlin, Frost, Chester, Ralph, Iris, Barry, Godspeed, Thawne, Eva Mcculloh, SpeedForce Nora, Deon, Allegra, Timeless Wells, Fuerza, Psych, Cecile, Kristin Kramer and literally EVERYONE ELSE IN CENTRAL CITY (excluding Joe West he's a champ and he should live.)

[@barry8871]

@@ryannightcore6737 you know Thawne could do the same right, he should be as fast as Savitar at this point, probably because he's not that hearthless and willing to kill innocent people except the flash and everyone he love, oh wait... the flash love the whole city. nevermind, I still don't get why villians like Thawne don't just kill radom civilian in the city, like he's a speedster, he could kill them all within a night and the flash is to blame since he give him a body and let him run away while he HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH speed to capture him in Star Labs, oh wait he was busy set up a wedding out of nowhere.

[@GeorgeDCowley]

@@ZentoBrinebg One for Symphogear.

[@DNDWavyy]

YOU WOULD THINK THE LAST SCENE IS EDITED BUT IT’S DEADASS THAT CRINGE 😂 Holy shit. Honestly for me I got into the Flash a lil late, I binged the 1st 3 seasons, I think they were the best. 4 and up haven’t lived up to the emotions I 1st felt watching this show. It’s gotten to the point I’ll miss weeks, skip parts of the show or just not care. A show you enjoy shouldnt be that way at all. It’s so sad. Cause I think Grant is genuinely great but isn’t given great material. Barry is just a terrible character at this point and the supporting cast has fell off so hard. Should’ve kept and developed the core 3. But oh well, maybe once this show ends we’ll look back and realize the show wasn’t that bad…Nah 😂

[@תםצורף-פ7ר]

agree with everithing but I dont think it will change because a. it's too late b. the writing and plot makes no sense c. the writers are just scared to make a drastic change

[@misaelintriago5434]

The new writers should have modeled the newer material off of what the old writers did. I mean seriously, why would you so drastically change the way you make a show if it’s clear that the entire audience loves it how it already is? The flash used to be a show full of cinematic action sequences, incredible music, intense drama and a moving and emotional story with high stakes involved. Now the show is just so bland, the choices the characters make just make zero sense and Barry feels like a side character in his own show. Even practical things such as the camera angles and the lighting just feel off and don’t give the flash that feeling that it used to have.

[@officialprincelouie]

&WavvyDavis Same here, I agree

[@officialprincelouie]

@Herbie Wares yeah..

[@thomaspanditfan2435]

@@תםצורף-פ7ר well. season 6a did give us a wonderful arc, o lets hope season 8 will be the same and give a wonderful end to the flash

[@RedRaikou]

"Wells is dead, what are we going to do?" "No worries, just go get one of the others from storage."

[@MrMario-tc8sl]

The only thing that I really enjoyed all season was the look on Barry's face when he could not stop smiling because of the new rainbow raider. I didn't like anything about the scene's story or anything like that but with that smile, I could not stop laughing.

[@davibraga299]

OH MY GOD YES

[@rayyanshaikh5591]

haha funny, 5 panels of barry doing shitty dances funny

[@Z-A-C]

Flash and reverse flash teaming up should’ve been done WAY back in season 3 with savitar

[@kevmasengale6903]

Thawne would've loved to kill Barry

[@Z-A-C]

@@kevmasengale6903 Back then, I was thinking that they weren’t gonna be able to stop savitar even if they teamed up. Savitar would’ve killed iris and became a god, and then reverse flash would’ve been like “I know how to stop this from happening... by killing you as a child.” And then they would’ve travelled back in time to the point where his mother died. Would’ve came full circle if they did that. Since they wasted that opportunity we get it so much later in season 7 where it doesn’t make sense at all in the context of things.

[@ryannightcore6737]

Wasn’t he already erased from the timeline by Black Flash before the Season 3 Finale?

[@Z-A-C]

@@ryannightcore6737 I meant he would go to the future to get the reverse flash to help him.

[@officialprincelouie]

@@Z-A-C that would be fucking amazing