SHIMAZU CLAN OVERVIEW - Total War: Shogun 2!

[@joedredd1168]

Minamoto to Shimazu to Satsuma, you can literally play through this clan's whole history.

[@azafr987channelcdp6]

The takeda is in the rise of the samurai too but it’s unplayable

[@Takeda_Katsuyori]

@@azafr987channelcdp6 not the same Takeda

[@holdenennis]

@@Takeda_Katsuyori but they are in the same province, Kai. Is it really just a coincidence?

[@haruakira9271]

@@holdenennis the Takeda are a branch family of the Minamoto who were awarded Kai Province so even the Takeda man is wrong

[@Willy2537]

The Mori and the Date as well. Both of Mori and Date ancestors are believed to have been from the Fujiwara clan, one of the clans you can play alongside Taira and Minamoto in ROTS, and both of Mori and Date descendants still exist hundreds of years later as the Choshu and Sendai domains, and IRL all of them along with Shimazu’s descendants still exist today. So yeah, there are three clans you can play through their whole history of lol.

[@peacekeeper7778]

I love the Shimazu. The bonuses are good, the start is great, and they're green! Mah fav color!

[@nicholasagnew9631]

Peace Keeper I'm blue

[@Altarahhn]

I love red, but I was a Shimazu main in Shogun 1 because: Swords. And I still think they're cool, now. Just saying.

[@Martoto94]

I love them but the green is a huge turnoff for me. I loved the color they had on FotS (as Satsuma domain).

[@БогданМиловановић]

🎶Green🎵is🎵not🎵a🎵creative🎵color🎶

[@plant6416]

Me too

[@KyoushaPumpItUp]

Irony: Their unique unit are heavy gunners, not katana infantry.

[@harecrazy9104]

Ian Cabugsa they hv suprerior katana infantry and hero tho

[@peacekeeper7778]

Yeah... but they send the enemy literally flying, so why complain, amiright? :D

[@nemo0036]

Actually, this had a lot to do with history, as they were arguably the first to have contact with the Portuguese. As a result, they were also the first to actually use firearms in battle, particularly with their tendency to lure opponents into ambushes.

[@dreysantillan]

@@nemo0036 ohhh interesting So it wasn't the Otomo?

[@nemo0036]

@@dreysantillan It wasnt

[@Leo-ds6lz]

Shimazu, everyone's first campaign :D

[@fozejuv2928]

ctcLeonard ctc yep

[@macrux152__8]

ODA. You misspelled ODA. those ashigaru(and DAT history) taught me that ODA was the key to victory.

[@fozejuv2928]

macrux152 __ what are you talking about?

[@benfrancis2814]

Oda

[@mikefoxtrot1157]

Takeda light cav ftw

[@hanchiman]

Shimazu, a samurai clan that still survive to this day.

[@Eskeletor_210]

I'm liking this, I've played over 300 hours of Shogun 2 and I still can't find my favorite clan.

[@nikolaik1097]

Slimmzki It'd be 700 hours for me

[@siegelink9549]

If I had to chose my Favorite purely because of Clan Traits, I would Pick Chosokabe. And even though their might be considered easy because of there starting position, I hate there starting position for a reason that truly makes no since.

[@nikolaik1097]

Siege link I actually like Chosokabe's start position... it's easy to invade the main island from Awaji

[@siegelink9549]

I don't disagree with you on that, the big reason I don't like there starting position is that you have to Navel invade your way off the island. So lets say you have like 3-4 units in all of your towns on the island, your enemies does a navel invasion with a full stack. You have basically no way to deal with it if they have a strong Navy because you have to use your Navy to get back on the island. They should have made it so you could walk onto the small island from the main Island of Japan. And you should be able too because of how little see there is between the small Island to the east of Shikoku and the main Island of Japan.

[@nikolaik1097]

Dylan Calvert well what I have done is that I usually ally myself with the Shimazu in the long campaign. I recruit ashigarus to protect the castles from those unlikely invasions and send one or two armies to attack the Hatakeyama lands next to Awaji... it has worked for me tho

[@shortsdeliveries]

I played as Oda first because I was a great fan of the game Nobunaga's Ambition: Iron Triangle, when I learned to play Shogun 2 well enough I learned how good the Shimazu and Takeda were

[@frederickvagueson9670]

The shimazu was the first clan i won the game with but i played with tekada first cuz they looked cool but realised they are Really hard to play

[@Maharaja_of_Punjab]

Hey same here

[@VvodeAn]

oooh sweet!! i was wondering when the master was going to teach us! now its here :D

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Not so much teaching as just general information about the Shimazu, but if it helps, that's good enough for me :).

[@VvodeAn]

***** i actually won a campaign because of you, i learned from your tatics and builds! Any help is a lesson learned for me (im new AND bad at strategy games...)

[@Zazume_]

Combined some practice and your tipps about army building for this clan and I did it, I finally won my first Shogun 2 campaign. Japan is mine! Thanks a lot for the help bud, keep making great content like that please :)

[@ChairThrowingTime]

I play Mount & Blade: Warband - Gekokujo Mod and this is the only Clan I ever really use as an army. I didn't know it was used so heavily in Shogun 2. I enjoy these videos.

[@rodrigoleitao285]

Aah, a great video indeed! It is good to see the Master teaching his young grasshoppers!

[@J0krswy1d]

Going Christian with the Shimazu is pretty good. You get the Nanban Quarter and then as you take over your starting island, you can get a second in the Otomo starting province. Two of those is nice.

[@FelixstoweFoamForge]

Oh yes.....early access to matchlock ashigaru. They rarely kill a lot, except in defensive sieges, but the effect they have on charging enemy morale is super useful. PLUS....5 experienced missionaries inciting revolts in provinces you want to conquer, (pair them with a ninja to sabotage the castle gates to help the rebels take it), means you can take a lot of territory without having to actually start a war with other clans. At least up until Realm Divide...

[@MatJan86]

Shimazu one of more interesting clans due to position and history ends up as' they are good with swords' while Otomo get christianity and guns just 2 years after Portuguese shipwrecked(if I remember starting date is in 1545?) on Tanegashima(owned by Shimazu's retainer). Oh well not the firs nor the last time CA pulled that kind of a stunt.

[@darkskullanimehub1631]

Well Portuguese ships wrecked at 1543

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

One thing that's interesting about the Shimazu is that it is incredibly easy to get Warrior Nuns, as compared to other clans -- even the Ikko Ikki and especially the Uesugi. The biggest problem with Warrior Nuns is that you need to have access to Incense to build the required monastery upgrade. Fortunately, the Shimazu start right next to the only 2 sources of Incense in the game. You'll probably want to have a lot of Buddhist temples anyway as the Shimazu as a means of dealing with the Otomo (unless you convert to Christianity, obviously).

[@Limrasson]

I didn't really want to convert to Christianity, but I did anyway because I wanted those trade ships. Nanban trade port made sense lore wise also and, well, I would have bothered me if it remained unupgraded.

[@tericathnos8895]

I wont hire them because they're bad units but because they are women

[@SaboPlat]

When I think of Shimazu I think of Toyohisa Shimazu from Drifters how fucking savage he is.

[@Gri-m]

Leave your head.

[@ArchCone]

SHIMAZU are my favourite clane to play as.

[@Raffix394]

I'd really love to see a video like this for the Otomo :).

[@HighlanderJosh]

I've playing Shogun2 for the past 2 weeks now, trying out mods to rebirth the excitement of the Medieval Japan era. From what I've noticed, playing as Shimazu is extremely easy even on Legendary. One really insane thing that I've noticed, vs the other factions I've played as, is when you get a foreign trading post, the other factions will greatly want to trade with you, even paying you as high as 29,000 yen!!! I exploited this easy cash grab the 2 times I played as Shimazu and made sure to trade and get as much money out of those dumb ai lol! I've gotten roughly 150,000yen in total (with the expanded japan mod putting in a ton of new factions) from the ai for allowing them to trade with me... this only works once though and if you lose trade with them and try to trade again you won't expect more than 100yen as payment.

[@wayfarer6464]

ok. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU CALLING IT YEN?!

[@nemo0036]

Koku... I think you mean Koku.

[@alexanderrahl7034]

Koku. The monetary equivalent of a years supply of rice for 1 person.

[@bryanvickers3961]

These are nice! Keep doing these!

[@Skippylegrandgourou1]

Now I want to play Shogun 2 again :(

[@johnbu9098]

I like shimazu, my first clan was date which is another clan that has defensive starting position. I don’t like fighting enemies on all sides like Germans. But Date is really slow on having sons. Shimazu is really quick, you get 2 sons ready to fight b4 you take over the island. Most importantly, if one dies you still got another one for heir.

[@SOSLICK22]

Aaaaaaand now I'm gonna go start a Shimazu campaign.

[@robertknox4767]

Easy tips, at round one upgrade the harbour and create bow kobaya ASAP to secure the trading spots so it woudnt be taken. And convert to christianity for the european trade ship to secure this spots and have the strongest economy of all clans

[@paleface171]

3:58 LOL a high powered knock back. How hilarious.

[@VvodeAn]

you asked for requests so here it is! one of me favourite clans is the Hattori, but the upkeep and the position Iga is always destroys me. i know that there are two very fertile lands near Iga, but whenever i do take them its an all out war with the Ikko and others around me. so i request a video for the Hattori, when you have the time of course

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Definitely planning on doing more/all clans, I'll see what I can do about speeding up the Hattori one though :).

[@VvodeAn]

***** i thank ye

[@maltaaaas]

I never thought I'd see you recommending to replace the yari ashigaru :D

[@boadams3506]

I actually subbed to your for a legendary campaign you did 2 years ago with the shimazu. (I subbed today)

[@timothyehlers781]

Hey. I just found your channel. There is quality content here. Good Job!!

[@mojotheaverage]

My favourite major clan from the sengoku jidai. I wish they got a clan bonus in shogun 2 for increased morale or something when outnumbered by their enemies because if the shimazu were famous for nothing else it was smashing armies about ten times their size

[@elkingoh4543]

Truly Yoshihiro moment

[@sarkast1k485]

Shimazu was the first clan i ever played :3

[@connykomen4237]

cool serie, ill watch them all!

[@ShockedLogic]

They easy and fun, but also incredibly easy to get crippled early as new player, especially if you dont convert. The trade economy collapses for a turn if just one enemy ship sneaks in and blockades you, and actually conquering your starting island can be a slog if you dont convert due to the unrest in everything the otomo touched.

[@philthethotdestroyer4194]

Wow awesome videos, i love shogun 2

[@vanders4198]

Once you're done doing playable factions could you do an overview of the Ashikage Shogunate?

[@Flaming_Donkey]

Vanders Ashikage Shogunate isn't a playable faction i think

[@thisizmonster]

There are mods which allows Ashikaga tho.

[@branx4198]

I simply love u man !

[@jusa297]

Thats pretty gay

[@vonPlosc]

I watch these vids only because I love Shogun so much!

[@tristanvillareal6555]

shimazu is just op. i conquered the whole of japan with the starting daimyo.

[@pinkflamingo140]

Hey! Are you planning on making a video on strategies of converting to Christianity in the game?

[@epsilon3821]

You mean converting other provinces or converting the clan's religion? Either way, that is a rather selfish and lazy request considering that you should try to create a strategy for yourself. If you rely too much on books, or in this case videos, you will be playing the game by the book instead of actually playing the game.

[@TThompson2000]

Just found you and I'm glad I did, but great minds think alike and we use the same Army comp for the Shimazu.

[@marcelosilveira2276]

they were the only clan I won a campaing with before updating to W10 and becoming completely uncapable of playing the game at all

[@desertratz307]

My first campaign was the Chosokabe because I owned Fall of the Samurai first and I really like the Tosa

[@elkingoh4543]

Unfortunately, Tosa in FOTS is not the Chosokabe you play in Shogun 2, Chosokabe have been eradicated during the last day of Sengoku Jidai in the siege of Osaka

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

If the heir isn't of age at the start of the campaign I always adopt the unrelated general. This way no one takes the upstart sons penalty, the general gains 1 loyalty, no one takes an upstart generals penalty when you hire the next general and you have a backup heir in case something goes horribly wrong.

[@lunachop2566]

Hey, just a little thing-when you say north, it's actually west and east is north. The map is rotated clockwise 90 from our due north thinking. The map is oriented due west actually.

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

I am very much aware the map is rotated, but have a look at a real map of Japan and a map of in-game Japan, it's nowhere near 90 degrees. North is still north, and even if it wasn't, I'm not about to confuse everyone by saying east when in-game it's north, that wouldn't make any sense. I've been told this many times, but I'm pretty sure those who comment this have never actually done a comparison, there's barely any difference there. Shikoku is still east of Kyushu, the Date are still in the the most northern part, it really doesn't change much.

[@galacticknight55544]

The Shimazu are my favorite clan.

[@applesandoranges440]

Nice vid

[@Byenie0912]

Played Darthmod I failed a domination campaign with Shimazu once because the AI decided to block all exit out of Kyushu Had too much money from savings but had difficult creating a navy strong enough to kill all enemy ships When I got out, i had 5 armies of full stacks of 3 yari cavalry 4 naginata samurai 8 katana samurai and 4 fire rockets blitzing across the countryside with spare koku to protect every conquered settlement from invaders But it was still not enough

[@RocketHarry865]

Prior to the Edo peroid the sword was a back up weapon so I think Katana Samurai and Katana cavalry should not have been allowed in the game. Instead how I would make it that the Shimazu get cheaper and slightly better samurai units in both infantry and cavalry categories compared to minor clans but Shimazu samurai are not as good as their counterparts from the specialized clans.

[@martins3993]

Love these movies. Can we have a Takeda and Mori guide please?

[@lexlex44]

Lol, this is literally the first clan I have chosen in Shogun 1 due to the style, probably efficience and nature.

[@bakkudeku]

Hey! Were you playing with directx 11 or 9? My first campaign was Shimazu too! :D

[@AzoiatheCobra]

after i saw your chosobake bow only chalenge, and while i refuse to see warhammer 2 content (i still dont have the game), i have to ask you to do another shimazu run, but now with heavy gunners

[@madkoala2130]

Drifters. Thats my reason.

[@KC_312]

So, basically the Shii Cho of the clans from Shogun 2.

[@trapper7954]

Make a video about how to get your army to an island with boats the smartest way pls

[@thelonewolf9866]

+MrSmartDonkeyLP what do you think of an army with yari cav, bow samurai and naginata samurai as the main line? Not for shimazu of course but for Mori,Hojo,Tokugawa etc.?

[@nhatho1723]

This was the first clan I beat legendary with.

[@cavalierking5220]

What's that music on background 👀

[@knightzix_01]

I'd love for you to tell us your opinions on Warhammer Races because i Learnt stuff even i did not know about the shimazu LOL

[@danialcourtney5969]

CrazyKnightz *learnt*

[@haminhtu7459]

Hi SmartDonkey, I'm just wondering what program did you use to record your videos? I'm gonna make some videos about Shogun 2 so can you give me some advices?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

I use Shadowplay, which you can only use if you have an Nvidia graphics card.

[@chrisg5219]

I wish we had shogun 3 with all the mechanics of 3K. Japanese history is a topic I know way more about than Chinese. I also find their history more interesting in general although 3K is making China almost as interesting!

[@anthonyloia2589]

Playing and conquering as the shims I is actually quite hard cuz killing th otomo who is a Christian clan, settlement become very hard to conquer and keep

[@enricosalviano8333]

I nearly lost owari (oda) because of the otomo! Well not directly but they provided a distraction for my ally to betray me!

[@64impala64impala]

i always think about the Chosokabe, what were my first clan that i played with, since i love archers they are my fav. Clan in the game, also i like where their capital is located

[@gregorflopinski9016]

Reject matchlock, return to katana

[@karlandreif.danaque8561]

Ah yes, Shimazu. The first clan I won with

[@cdceltic9391]

I have won A campaign with my katana hero by mass routing the enemy with a flak in a battle that would determine the fate of my campaign

[@JonatasMonte]

The first campaign I ever finished on Total War was with the Shimazu and I didn't take the Chosokabe island I think.

[@Wongtsunqui]

Shimazu is the easiest to rules as catch is to conquer the whole kyu shu as no attack from back from ryuukyu and after kyushu conquer create light archer cavalary only and assasinate threating commander and bought all low moraled United and move steady and sure to the north and sengoku will be paciffied and tenno land is in peace again

[@raven-dq6ox]

Is the map you use for unit demonstrations a mod? If so, could I have a link?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Nope, it's a standard map, I believe it's called Rice Fields.

[@raven-dq6ox]

MrSmartDonkeyLP Mkay thanks

[@Neon-cj1ir]

Should I go Shimaxu Taleda or Date for my new campaign I’ve played only one that I’ve committed to but I got crushed at the divide

[@Neon-cj1ir]

Shimazu*

[@MalcadorTheSigilite]

Which foreign trade port can you get when you rush?

[@james-97209]

Can you make an overview about the rise of the samurai clans?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

I don't like Rise of the Samurai and the clans don't have enough differences between them to justify a video for each one.

[@arstotzkanofficer4956]

20k Subs!

[@jaxsonh.266]

Arstotzkan Officer glory to Arstotzka

[@MK-xs5gd]

I bought shogun 2 like 3 years ago , it is going quite firm and am really enjoying it. However, I feel like it doesnt contain the updates your shogun 2 contain. for example , blood on the screen when a soldier is dead , the graphics are better on your shogun even though I maxed my graphics settings. I just wanna know how many types or modes are there for shogun 2 and how can I update it

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

There's DLC for the blood. Graphics I'm not sure, should be exactly the same for you.

[@jonmustach2223]

MrSmartDonkeyLP Hey man!Your channel is awesome and these videos are perfectly informative!I'm about to buy the Gold edition to Shogun 2?Can you explain the features of the gold edition before buying it?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

It's not on Steam so I assume it's a physical copy, it probably has some DLC or something. You can buy the remaining DLC on Steam either way, so it's nothing special.

[@AlasHatem]

I think there should be a otomo heavy gunners

[@CoolGuyVerm]

You should do the chosokabe next

[@wheezy1587]

otomo overview please?

[@narxes]

Best clan

[@Viccatrix]

Every single time I play as the Shimazu, the Shoni come in and take over the rest of the island in just a couple of turns.. Never even make it to year two before it happens, then they post up their armies so I cant go anywhere, and after a year they come in and wreck my shit since I cant make any freaking money..

[@igor9593]

How many armies should I own ?

[@Elmithian]

I won my campaign thanks to a full stack Katana heroes so...

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

So what? Also, that requires mods. Also, if you didn't have a full stack of Katana heroes you would've had a stack and a half of Samurai/Warrior Monk tier units, which would've done just as well. You never win a campaign 'because' of a certain army or unit, because if you didn't have them, you'd have something else, you wouldn't just lose.

[@danielhammer619]

Why the hell do Shimazu even have heavy gunners as units when their specialty is katana infantry. wtf.

[@JonatasMonte]

Matchlock yay!

[@lazyeye642]

I always thought that Shimadzu clan was made to be a christian one. They've got the Foreign Trade Port from the start, their generals are loyal (which saves from loaylity decrease after converting into Christiany), heck even their flag has the Cross And European trade ships are perfect to keep in control the trade factories, which are closest to Shimadzu

[@Wveth]

Historically they were not Christian, while the Otomo were. The cross is also very obvious not a Christian cross lol

[@nshuda42]

No blood in my battles!?? Any help on how to turn that function on?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Do you own the DLC?

[@nshuda42]

MrSmartDonkeyLP probably not lol, which one or ones do I need man?

[@Icagel0]

There's one literally called "Blood Pack", it costs 1 USD or even lower depending on your region so if you want blood, it's really a worth investment IMO (It was cut out from the game so they could lower the rating as far as I know)

[@Icagel0]

PS. You'll need to activate the feature later from the Options menu

[@nshuda42]

Icagel0 ok cool I see it now. Thanks for all the help

[@BombMovie]

How can you play the clan specific units in custom battles ?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

You need to own the DLC for the unique units.

[@minhtuenguyenluong8693]

the upkeep will be the problem, especially in shogun time

[@dgray3771]

Best clan in the game. Though dies fast in my other campaigns. Actually in order of death, Tokugawa,Shimazu,Date,Mori. Only rarely does any of these 4 survive.

[@mememimi7415]

hata clan ⇒ koremune clan ⇒ shimazu family、fujiwara clan ⇒ otomo family、fujiwara clan ⇒ ryuzouji family、haji clam ⇒ ohe clan ⇒ mouri family、

[@ricjr7262]

Is it possible to convert Shimazu to Christianity even without the Otomo DLC?

[@flaggy185]

Affter many years, i tried a new campaing as the Shimazu, to remind me of good times Then i realized that i hate the Otomo and their op agents

[@Dennis-ud2nh]

Katanas on the battlefield makes no sense. Wish the game would've thought of some other weapon for the "main melee attack" unit

[@CoD_Kuro]

have you ever watch the anime Drifters, the MC there is a Shimazu guy... :D

[@atay14x]

Yea the anime is pretty cool, the manga more so, usually in my games as Shimazu the 4th child is a girl, which is kind of annoying cause the 4th son is Shimazu Iehisa...which is Toyohisa's father! the MC of the show. Think its cause the game starts in 1545 and Iehisa was born in 47 so any child after 45 i would guess just be random. Which is a shame cause it would be cool to have them all.

[@mickkwan4800]

Shimazu is just too strong and easy, especially they have the best starting position. They can recruit Shimazu Katana perhaps with improved armor or weapon right away.

[@DJJsquared]

thanks i just have a hard time dealing with Christianity after i take the 1st island. how do i prevent the frequent uprisings?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Monks.

[@ArmacalypseRoguewind]

Monks, upgrade the castle and have a garrison there, if you want to you can also exempt the province from taxes

[@thehound1712]

Instead of dealing with it, you should embrace it. With nanban tradeships you can easily be a naval superpower. In this way you can protect your island from naval invasions and occupy trade nodes a lot better.

[@CMDRFandragon]

I honestly call BULLSHIT on taht 'masters of integrity" and 'increased loyalty for generals'. One of my campaigns I was hummin along all good and then out of the damn blue, in one of the missions, half my damn army turned on me, including my main general guy..... Whats the trick to getting super elite units? I sometimes encounter AI with ENTIRE 20 stacks of 8 rank guys and im all like "How the hell!?" Its usually some minor 1 province scrub faction to. Meanwhile, I struggle to even get my line units to 5-6 veterancy. I know you combine units after battle to cut down on the XP reduction from fresh recruits, but past that.....Only guys I ever get high are my cavalry and bowmen. And as for cavalry, I usually go with Katana Cav just to be different. Are they really that bad?

[@thejollyduck]

In the campaign, is it better to convert to Christianity or to stay?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

I never recommend converting. Too many cons for too few pros.

[@thejollyduck]

+MrSmartDonkeyLP Okay but I played as Shimazu before but I have problems with religious control and I always have to use most of my metsuke and missionaries to repel the unrest so I was thinking of converting.

[@thehound1712]

Convert if you wish to be a naval superpower and dominate trade nodes. If you don't care about having a strong navy, at all, then I'd advise against converting.

[@fabianustertius6460]

just play whit samurais katana, is very easy even on legendary, but u need to defend and play very good at the start

[@totaladik6251]

The shimazu clan has A strong capabilities in sword fighting but weak in defense (STW 1

[@totaladik6251]

Iwant to play the STW 2butnot capable on my laptop :(

[@totaladik6251]

Also Download the free STW 1for LowSpec Pc or laptop for free works

[@tomas1629]

do i need to turn christian?