Shin's Pedals - The Most Faithful Recreation of the Dumble Amp Sound?!

[@BlackCatBonz]

The one word i always use to describe the Dumble sound is overtones. They are always harmonically rich and when you hold a note it always goes into this really nice feedback. The Cornerstone Gladio is an excellent example. These pedals sound great.

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

John Mayer recently made headlines when one of his Dumbles went down during a live performance. The headline was the fact that literally as soon as it went down his tech ran out there and immediately replaced it...with another Dumble. Some guys have all the luck...(except for the fact that one of his Dumbles blew up) LOL!

[@frank_gappa]

I've been lucky to enough to play a few of these. Really cool, great sounding pedals! I work at Distinctive Guitar in the US and we carry them. As always, love the video! Great playing. You guys are awesome.

[@faboolean7039]

Happy birthday to Frank Zappa!

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

Have you ever played a J Rockett Dude pedal? It's their version of a Dumble and other J Rockett pedals I've played have been awesome. So I was just curious about that one.

[@retinamusic]

I looooove Distinctive Guitar! Been there a few times and you guys are always super friendly and awesome!

[@joshbabbitt9243]

You're store is amazing to boot!

[@joetoe9207]

Just ordered an ODX from your store!

[@scottcopeland2585]

Lucky to own a few of Shins pedals. They’re incredible, very expensive yes, but genuinely excellent.

[@rschelyoung8705]

I once saw Matt Schofield do a gig on his spare two rock which he'd moved onto after main amp failure and that was farting out too! He looked.. annoyed. Wouldn't have happened with a Peavey a tell thee!!

[@pauldncn1]

The captains facial expression made my Christmas Thanks Lee and Pete All the best to everyone and their families at Anderson’s for Christmas and 2022

[@frankmchale2877]

Recently came out of the boutique rabbit hole and after a long long time (years) of endless OD pedal purchases I think I finally found ‘my’ sound. Only happened once I took my KOT off and replaced it with a Boss SD-1 and The Dane. I’d been sceptical of a lot of KZbinrs signature gear upto that point, but having tried a early demo model, that Thorpy himself was plugging at a trade show, it always stayed with me until I recently snagged one at a more sensible price. Weird position to be in now, sat watching boutique pedal demos thinking, “ I wouldn’t swap my sound out for that.” I was particularly underwhelmed by pretty much all these pedals. The TS and RAT clones highlighting the strange phenomenon of boutique builders trying to replicate industry standard / sound of ages pedals whilst somehow missing the core ingredients of what makes those pedals tick whilst adding £££ to the price. Anyway I’ve now got a KOT gathering dust on the shelf and a £50 SD1 cutting through the mix, taking all the glory on every solo … Go figure 🤔🎸😏

[@LysanderLH]

There never was anything wrong with Boss pedals.

[@joetoe9207]

Nice job. Getting what you like (I love most Boss - people get elitist about this stuff).

[@mchalespermanentbrew]

A year on…. Sold the Dane, SD-1 still killing it with a Blues Driver as it’s new partner😏👌#bossgotitrightthefirsttime

[@ColonelPaynus]

@@mchalespermanentbrewMy favourite drive pedal is the OD-3. Super transparent. I sold all my pedals when I went totally digital with my HX Effects years ago, but if I could have only one pedal is would be the Boss OD-3

[@brrblack497]

The best guitar player I ever seen in a bar played a solid state, Tech 21 Trademark 60. Same as Les Paul later in his life. Pete and the Captain always sound great no matter the price of the gear. IMO.

[@srh361]

It's not about the gear.

[@oldmantwofour5561]

Oh dear... it wasn't the band Grumpy Old Men was it? Also, the Trademark 60 isn't exactly your bog standard solid state amp. However, I totally agree with your premise.

[@robinjgill]

Yep they do and that must be difficult for them because they want to show off high end gear while making the cheaper stuff sound good. But if a Tone city sounds killer, why buy a Shin. for the kudos maybe

[@DroneCorpse]

@Angel. nah I’ve seen the Anderton’s boys play at NAMM booths from a few feet away. They’re even better off camera.

[@Grankspoine]

These things seem to breed faster than Star Trek's tribbles, and interest in them increases accordingly. If the chancellor really wants to get the UK economy out of the brown stuff, he should invest big-time in guitar drive pedals.

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

Tribulation.

[@aznsensation44]

Most dumble style pedals are attempting to duplicate specifically Robben Fords overdrive special, and from what I hear from these pedals it sounds like a fatter more compressed tubescreamer type tone

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

Before he switched to the all vintage Fender amps when he began the Three Kings tour, Joe Bonamassa was a Dumble guy. He had like 8 of them and sold them all. For me, that was the Holy Grail of guitar tone for years. I went to a guitar show and one of the dealers had a Dumble from Joe's collection and had a price tag of $130,000. I asked if I could finance it at a $1/week for 130,000 weeks. He said he would consider it. Haven't heard back from him yet...

[@jt3483]

Bought the Dumbloid Twin (SP and ODS) a couple years ago, then met them at NAMM. Really great pedal and really nice people.

[@madgebishop5409]

joy to the world..more overdrive/distortion pedals...just what we need more of....

[@d179654582248]

Both guitars through that first pedal might be the best tone I’ve ever heard on this or any other pedal show!

[@MajorTomgames]

so these seem to use the same knobs that are on my Cornerstone Gladio Double Preamp Pedal, you cannot read them on stage under stage lights, so be prepared to get the sharpies out, home use, absolutely fine - talking about the silver knobs

[@BeachJazzMusic]

The original ODS was built for Robben Ford. There is a video on KZbin where Robben talks about his original Dumble and how it came to be, which I was fortunate to play. I feel that the mystique is far greater than the actual amp. I was seriously thinking of getting one. At that time a Steel String Singer was $5,000.00 which was super expensive for an amp then. When I got a call that I could come and play Robben's I couldn't get there fast enough. Even back then they had the mystique. I was really disappointed as I personally didn't care for it as it didn't get clean enough and I played it for about 4 hours. The edge of breakup tone was great though. That said all Dumbles are custom made to what the person who buys one is looking for. I've only seen two. The one I mentioned and another one that came into a friend of mine's shop to get repaired. He pulled the chassis out and it had all this black goop all over the circuit. Impossible to repair. He called the guy up and told him he'd have to send it back to Dumble to get it fixed. I seriously wonder how many people who 'want' a Dumble have ever actually played one.

[@michaeljohnson8058]

We're actually hearing Pete's fingers and a Morning Glory under the table 😉 it sounds good to me, nice sustain.

[@aristocaster]

Ethos overdrive pedal is the the most faithful recreation of Dumble, even up to the look.

[@sotiristsamandanis6424]

Absolutely, I have the Ethos,original Zendrive and Van Weelden on my board,all 3 are fantastic overdrives.The Van Weelden drive is thicker ,wouldn't part with any of them.

[@vkelly1975]

I love my Royal Overdrive ,it’s my favourite drive pedal . These pedals sound great I have to say ..

[@glenproctor1999]

I think it was Mick Taylor who said there's no suc thing as 'a dumble tone' because every amp was handbuilt to what the buyer wanted. Love the sound of the pedal though, interesting that he didn't feel the need for gimmicks like an actual valve in there.

[@despot3880]

That is the most authentic srv sound what you ever get

[@distrustfulmonkey2832]

First 14 mins are basically Lee doing unconscious stank face. I fully approve personally - that dumbloud sounds absolutely sick.

[@tjnugent62]

SRV's Dumble was used with Marshall and Fender amps on state. It was 150 watts and he used it for pristine clean.

[@j.rozman7016]

I love my Gtown Holygrail Overdrive for 1/3 price of these ones!

[@RickMcCargar]

I cannot be the only person who is underwhelmed by these tones for that money...

[@davelouis4004]

The lower gain settings sound pretty good , but the higher gain reminds me of a spitting camel !, to me, it doesn’t sound any better than other boutique pedal at a fraction of the price!

[@xPanDaemonx]

Sounds like an overdrive with fuzz overtones. Sounds like a mellower SD9?

[@GriffMJ]

.... loving the Brown Drive.... thats a 2022 purchase me thinks!!

[@jhesbol]

This sounds great! Although, I have my Cornerstone Gladio and I'll stop my Dumble pursuit there. It's so good. Oh, and I have a Ceriatone ODS on order so I guess I am speaking out of the other end. Have a very Happy New Year to all at Anderton's!

[@louiscyfer6944]

i have the gladio and the ceriatone ods and i just bought this shin dumbloid. i want to see if it's better than the gladio. i also have a two rock custom reverb signature.

[@mtb_3930]

How is the ceriatone? I have just ordered a gladio

[@jhesbol]

The Ceriatone is awesome! Huge sounding amp, with crystal cleans and the best amp overdrive! @@mtb_3930

[@stratjed]

Played threw a few Dumbles . Played threw just about everything since I started in the middle seventies . The pros who I met that did the same all agreed we liked LOUD STIFF UNFORGIVING ICE PICK SOUNDS . I still love the Dumble sound, surprised anyone under 50 does. Howard himself has changed over the years , these days he hotrods a fail proof more traditional fender tone. (Joe Bonamassa, Kenny Wayne Sheppard, Clapton all playing newly Dumblized Fenders ). The JBL 120 was the Best speaker in the 70s. When the kids gonna bring that baby back? ( The one with the metal dust cone that you heard on every classic tune). Always felt Howard was just ripping off Randall Smith's Boogie Like all the others since anyway.

[@Barry101er]

Pete Pete Pete-what a player! And what a tele.

[@jeffmakor7135]

I've owned two ethos overdrives (one with a 30watt amp), an original Zendrive (pre Lovepedal), Amplified Nation Big Bloom and Alpha drive. The Big Bloom was based on the Shin's Dumbloid circuit and sounded b****y awful, as did the Dumbloid in this video. It was brittle and the gain sounded cheap and artificial. The ethos pedals live were a nightmare with all those controls and options. The sound was fine but I still maintain its a studio tool than a live solution where you might want to make corrections on the fly. The Alpha drive was simple, a bit dull and uninspiring. For me, the straight forward and iconic Dumble tonality was best captured in the Zendrive. I have never regretted passing on the other pedals, but selling the Zendrive was a daft move and it's going to be resolved soon enough when I get a secondhand example. If you like the Dumble tone, it's best to head for something that doesn't sound fizzy and harsh under gain (the Zendrive can also suck, but has a more pleasing tone and gain stage to these ears thats easily dialled in, making it more usable. The Shin version is revealed in this video as overpriced, buzz saw sounding, nasal and harmonically unpleasant. I know theres a lot who'll probably disagree but even the reviewers are struggling to say nice things about these boxes. Their expressions almost give the game away on several occasions, too.

[@leandershah1617]

Completely agree with the Shin's Dumbloid. One thing though for anyone purchasing that pedal, If you have a clean amp (Twins/Deluxe/Two-Rock), Dumbloids won't work with those as well as it would with something like a Marshall (better if you could put it in the effects loop but if not also, it'll sound close to an authentic sound than mushy with some shrill/artificial notes in there). I experimented a lot with Shin's pedals (signal chain, series/parallel in a wet/dry setup, different amps, etc) but nothing worked as good as a Marshall or Mesa-Boogie (again, best in the fx loop).

[@Avatar7x7]

I agree that the Dumbloid sounded like crap ... I have the Ethos and Zen v2 w tube and love them both... Both blow the Dumbloid away.. What was killer is if you stacked the Ethos and Zen drive together or any good drive pedal in front of the Zen..Straight love Homey !

[@hashdealer8822]

The dumbloid is a modified tubescreamer. A total ripoff basically.

[@dallasZer0]

Embossed leather cover = "3d nice cover..." Y'all are awesome!

[@gregcsefko]

The Dumbloid sounds more like a fuzz or pi when it’s pushed. Sounds better with singular notes rather than chords. Reminds me of the Simble from Mad Professor.

[@anthonytafoya5141]

i could totally see lee in middle school pedaling rock gear in his backpack at lunch!

[@IamMusicNerd]

If you don’t want to pay $600-700 for a Shin Dumbloid, the Vertex SSS-SRV pedal was also modeled off 6 original Dumbles they got to test, and that pedal is ‘only’ about $250.

[@hashdealer8822]

Vertex... oh nononono hahahaha

[@creepingcharlieandtheroundups]

The Dumbloid is super cool. Sounds a lot like the Dr. No Octofuzz with the gain maxed and the octave function turned off (with a compressor running into it, lol). Dig that tone--will have to get my hands on one.

[@spotmfd9431]

He designed a limited edition dumble pedal for MXR a few years back that was under $200. I have one but still prefer the Zen drive.

[@jaydengrant3274]

Ones of Stevie's first electric guitars was a telecaster!

[@p6x2]

Roben Ford uses an Hermida Audio Zen Drive when he cannot have his Dumble with him. The Zen drive is now made by Love Pedals.

[@To.Si.Ma.]

Great Video. When Dr. Dumble is doing his amps they have to stand on a pentagram in the productionline. I d love to watch a video about Pedal Pawn and Jext Telez pedals.

[@dareddevil]

Beautiful, love your videos

[@dscataglini]

I wonder if the amp was the wrong one to test these pedals with. They all sounded very fuzz-like to me. The dumbloid had some interesting things going on in jazz mode. I have heard "dumble" clones many times and didn't seem that pedal was close to what I'm familiar. I wonder what version of a dumble it was trying to replicate

[@I.M.Guitar-Nerd]

Awww, the live stream didn't get saved? I only caught a few momnets of this morning and I was hoping to watch it when I go back from work.

[@alexwoolridge94aw]

Yup sounds like a good pedal. Idk what a Dumble sounds like but cool

[@gunarsbrants8429]

Have you guys ever tried the Wampler Euphoria ? Great video 👍🏻

[@ajsrhodes]

I had the opportunity to play a Dumble once owned by Jackson Browne at a local music store. The biggest thing I came away with was the blooming of the notes. Not a sharp raspy distortion but a smooth blossom of the note. Very different from a lot of the Dumble pedals out there.

[@隠れた花]

I think I got the exact snake comp that’s sitting on the table unless andertons ordered multiple of the exact color, which isn’t usually the case with shins music lol, I bought it used on reverb but it has andertons on the box and is from this time period 😂

[@rschelyoung8705]

I've got a dumbloid /feedloid by Ryan in Arizona. Its pretty identical. Interestingly it has clipping modes for Timmy and tubescreamer and what you notice is the DUMBLE tone is very UN compressed and fuzzy/narly compared to the others. I think the general assumption is it has to be the smoothest and most compressed - not so... Quite hard and unforgiving on anything but high gain. And all the better for it

[@texasbootlegger3752]

Nice review of these pedals. Mr Shin does build great pedals. I make only 3 of my Texas Humdrucker pedal per year. Exclusive circuit design for humbucker style pickups. A modest price at $17,000.00 each…. I always enjoy Andertons vids.

[@radio5051]

🤣

[@tinoorange4491]

SRV started out on his brothers tele, he used to steal it all the time 🤘🤪🎸🔊🎼🎶🎵

[@terrybanks5063]

cornerstone gladio for half price win!

[@dinosaursr]

Dare I say, the Dumbloid had a tiny bit of half-cocked wah with a bit of Big Muff sound?

[@vertigopilot]

One would be very hard-pressed indeed to find a pair of salesmen more talented than these gents!

[@williamcampbell7387]

Pensive is closer to both than each is to the other, and it's meaning is better.

[@monkeypils]

Man. I would love that my wife looks at me, the way Lee looks at Pete.

[@matt6288joyce]

Pete sounded amazing through that first pedal (I haven’t finished watching the video so I don’t know if they go onto others!)

[@joetoe9207]

Great story; tx for sharing!

[@carlhuffman6792]

To me the Dumble sound is fuzz distortion and compression meet to create a very creamy sound and screams with sugar lol I must be craving a cup of coffee hearing this ha ha

[@JudgeFredd]

Which amp is used in this video ? a Dumble may be ?

[@jamesbagshaw8251]

I have a Chinese Tom's Line Dumbler pedal - not as nice as this but they are 25.99 on Amazon. Lipstick pickups played through that into a Vox sound pretty tasty for that budget

[@troycollins6069]

Hi Lee and Pete.. I think it would be interesting if you ever get a used Dunble to compare it to all of the products that try to reproduce the Dunble sound. Troy from Alantic City 🌆

[@paulvigos1]

In addition this sounded like a resemblance of fuzz but T-Rex MUDHONEY has it since mid 90s

[@michaelsnydermusic]

LOL! I heard him strum and I started humming Killing in the name of! The he plays it. That made my day. Also, Ive never heard an amp with gain structure like that. Yes, I know it’s a pedal but still…

[@Widdy5150]

Status Quo in a box 😍

[@che2335]

Ill hold out for the Mooer and Behringer Dumbles.

[@jimbobmago]

Probably missed it was the pedals direct in the amp or in a loop

[@larrydj549]

If a Dumble is a fat fuzz, then YES!

[@tigerhunter8878]

God damn that sounds amazing

[@ZepIV]

Shoutout to the editor for the "3D" effect. We see you!

[@johnmac8084]

I'm waiting for the Tone City Dumbloid for £39.99 😄

[@otherfish]

What amp did he say they are playing through?

[@MrUmandMrEr]

Re. Dumbloid: I thought Pete could make anything sound good…

[@dennismullins4930]

Excellent ☮️

[@ledhendrix5054]

Dumble Amps are notoriously difficult to set up and get a good sound , best demo ive ever heard is when Nick from That Pedal show was Head of Guitarist Magazine and did a Video Demo of a Dumble Amp he made it sound Awesome

[@louiscyfer6944]

the that pedal show doesn't have a nick.

[@ledhendrix5054]

@@louiscyfer6944 Really !! Ah Bless , GAL .............

[@louiscyfer6944]

@@ledhendrix5054 it's daniel steinhardt and mick taylor.

[@ivorharden]

I've never heard the appeal of a Dumble, it sounds just like a driven Fender amp.

[@andrewkavanagh6028]

The appeal is being able to say you have a Dumble, and no one else does, therefore you are now a better guitar player than everyone else.

[@misterknightowlandco]

Dumbly is a genius selling the same shit to people for big bucks…

[@andrewkavanagh6028]

@Honoré Pere lol no one, nobody, no other person

[@benlogan430]

Dumble is a marketing genius. He makes amps just like others do. Except he pretends his are made so much more different and special with magic goop. Schematics for amps are not all that different depending on features. That’s why amp tech’s can work on different amps because the tech is not that different from one to the other. IMHO 🤷🏼‍♂️ On the other hand JB and R Ford probably have better ears than I do so maybe there’s something there?

[@kodykindhart5644]

I’m not dumb Dumbo worship guy but clearly a thing going with them Not worth the money but What I know is some have a solid state rectifying section which adds to the more immediate response to the note/notes played There is less 3D feeling compared to a fender You can’t hide playing it as much the soft 3D sound of a blackface fender is enjoyable and helps that Ever play a Roland jazz? Dumble is a further tweaking of that fender sound to fit particular players styles

[@marcuscorneliusaurelius6534]

Cool... so it's basically a 100-dollar Tube Screamer sold for 900 dollars. Awesome!

[@mbreinin]

Cool to see you demo some of the less common pedals from Shin's, like the MkI. I think you could get better results if you tweaked the amp more for the pedals, and stop playing into crystalline clean amps. Every dirt pedal sounds better through a warmed up amp that is either on the verge of breakup, or mildly breaking up. The TS variant probably needed some good breakup in the amp to really sing. I have seen many Dumbloid videos where it does more of the smooth Dumble, liquid OD thing than what you guys came up with, which was more of the overdriven Fender tone. Still, a nice demo and thanks for doing it.

[@sarty23]

Yes!

[@JohnHenryBonhamm]

What amp are you playing trough??

[@pajguitar]

Eric Clapton is currently using Dumbles

[@sotiristsamandanis6424]

They're modified Fenders

[@limpindug]

If it's true, Dumbles are voiced to specific players, the only way to test is have say Mayer's tone in your head and try to emulate it. Respect and stay healthy all.

[@voodoodr]

Those sounded really nice through my shitty computer speakers and then there's Danish Pete! No really, that's some good stuff.

[@johnmirabile3535]

ROBBEN FORD SAID IF YOU SELL THOSE PEDALS, HELL NEVER COME BACK TO ANDERTONS AGAIN! LOL 🤣😂😂

[@nuendo2496]

Yes….Bonamassa has the best Dumble sound. But he also has the best Fender sound and best Marshall sound.

[@eyesintheskies]

I heard that the albino unicorns refused to rock out on anything but a dumble, it’s actually why they went extinct.

[@oig40203]

For me, the defining Dumble sound is the solo on "Help the Poor" by Robben Ford.

[@BeachJazzMusic]

Pete could play a broom stick thought a can and make it sound great!

[@WickBeavers]

Fuchs makes my Dumble sound like a real Dumble.

[@0megalul309]

If rather get a dumble inspired amp for the price of this pedal + a hot rod deluxe.

[@SomeKindOfMadman]

Thank you boys, Mister Pete and Mister Lee for the the entertaining uploads; you both have plenty of “loads” ; ) wink wink

[@HAARPisreal911]

You never tried Demon Pedals Kondo Shifuku Overdrive so far. It's the best Dumblestyle Overdrive Pedal you can get your hands on!

[@Bflatest]

RIP Mr. Dumble

[@brucey39]

Sounds like a million other pedals . I will stick to my Fulltone Plimsoul which I love .

[@nvonstackelberg2]

J rockett the dude is an awesome dumble pedal

[@andrejgregoric1324]

must admit I didn't like any, maybe the first with proper sweep setting would be closest to my liking but captain just turned it off when he found my sweet spot. Anyway, it sounds to me close to Cream fat sound I never liked. But that is me. And it is not sour grapes thing 😉

[@francisholvoet2]

Decibels >112! Bleading ears... Killer sound.

[@Phoebedumplings]

Sounds like a real cheap fuzz

[@sinnertrain7405]

I've heard many top guitarists play through Dumble amps and NONE of them sound the same, they sound like THAT PLAYER playing through a Dumble. So is there really a "Dumble sound"? Robben Ford sounds the same regardless of what amp he's using. Danish Pete would sound good playing through some crappy solid state amp that fell off the trash truck on the way to the landfill. :-)

[@LysanderLH]

I bet anyone could create their favourite sounds with only Boss pedals at a fraction of the cost of ‘boutique’ pedals.

[@johndugan197]

One of the great things about Pete's playing is his ability to get a wide variety of tones using only his hands and no settings changes. These pedals wholly removed that ability and made everything sound the same, and I was listening on a good rig, not an iPhone. My overwhelming impression was of cotton wool and rubber. Pip Pip!!