SHINY! Graphite vs. Metallic Finishes - Wonder Woman's Sword of Athena

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@PrintsandProps
@PrintsandProps 6 жыл бұрын
hey guys! great video. I'm the local prop tart "graphite nut". and i've found a few things 1. urethane clear coat helps IMMENSELY in getting that super smooth base for the powder. 2. if you spray some alclad chrome, or spaz stix chrome on FIRST, and THEN buff the powder on, it yields a much brighter chrome finish, and much less "black chrome" 3. the graphite is so durable because each granule of powder is extremely "sharp", meaning that as you buff it, it forces itself into your paint like a million tiny thumbtacks, which is why it doesn't need a clear coat. the buffing is flattening the particles down, which is what gives you the shine. clear coats need to follow the rules of normal chrome paints. it doesn't like solvents, but it is very durable to physical abuse. Cheers friends!
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Great info!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips all around. Thanks so much for sharing! =D
@MartijnCalkhoven
@MartijnCalkhoven 6 жыл бұрын
Question: I'm trying to find good ways to enhance the shine on my homemade LARP weaponry. The difficulty with this is that it needs to be able to withstand the abuse such a weapon takes. Do you think graphite would flex with the material, or will it lose it's shine really quickly? It would be applied to either a coat of clear Plastidip or Isoflex, both quite glossy.
@delron1594
@delron1594 6 жыл бұрын
@@MartijnCalkhoven the graphite sould be fine as long as the coat under it is fine and again if it dose finally show wear you can just add more and buff again but based on what i seen grphite will be fine as long as the base is fine with the abuse with larp weapons
@PrintsandProps
@PrintsandProps 6 жыл бұрын
Martijn Calkhoven the powder isn’t a coherent coating, meaning there is no binder, so the particles are bound to the surface, but not to each other. All is to say it’s super flexible
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
That was so much fun thanks again for having me on!
@velissag
@velissag 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best! I had to pause 30 seconds in to gain composure because I didn't expect the intro to be so funny.
@SKSProps
@SKSProps 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful casts and finishing techniques!
@MakeBrooklyn
@MakeBrooklyn 6 жыл бұрын
Great looking swords!!
@somekindofdevil
@somekindofdevil 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching graphite trick. How would you weather graphite applied part?
@jazcreations
@jazcreations 6 жыл бұрын
For anyone who would like to know, I've used graphite powder for years, I've found the under colour makes little drifference with a full covering, but a light dusting will let the base show through but it's difficlut to get it even... The effect is a dark metalic shine like old /aged steel, the brightness/lightness/viberence is realy adjusted by how smooth and shinny the base is, this means painting is not always nessary if the the matirial you are working on is already finished.... The technique can be use on almost any matirial inculiding vinyl fabric but the graphite can transfer if it's rubbing against another surface... It does wear off over time, but can be added to easerly and can be washed off with warm soapy water if you want to start over.... Hope this Helps.... These couple Videos showing different uses, of both a Burnt and a Metalised technique ... Burnt Bones: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH68hnmPeJJor5Y T-700 Head: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKfdZ2uBo7Wng6c
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful tips, thanks for sharing! =D
@jazcreations
@jazcreations 6 жыл бұрын
@@punishedpropsAll good.... Love to do a collaboration, not sure what, maybe you've got somethink you'd like cast in Metal ? Feel free to reach out if I can help.... jazcreations@optusnet.com.au
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 6 жыл бұрын
WAIT WAIT WAIT - I have one as well, does this mean Eric will come over and help me paint mine???
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
I think so Joel!! HAHA!
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed! :)
@therealpanse
@therealpanse 6 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops is that the lubricant from Joels OpenRC video? Looks like it paints just as good as it lubricates 🤣
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
@@therealpanse HA! It is indeed the same container. Good eye!
@chrisworsley8836
@chrisworsley8836 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Definitely feeling some 'prop envy' for Eric's sword finish. A quick Molotow horror story. I painted some parts on my 3D printed BR blaster with Molotow Chrome, got them nice and shiny, and then hit them with gloss clear lacquer. Then I watched as the metal particles in in the chrome floated up into the lacquer, making a beautiful race car silver, but it sure wasn't chrome anymore. I've found that you have to let Molotow cure and out-gas for at least 48-72 hours before you coat it with anything or it will dull or crack/spiderweb... and it dissolves in lacquer thinner AND alcohol... so clear acrylic sealer is almost a must! Chunky Metal FOREVER!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that's really enlightening. Thanks for sharing. =)
@moopug
@moopug 5 жыл бұрын
The only clear coat I've had consistent success with over Molotow Liquid Chrome is Alclad Gloss Klear Kote (ALC310) airbrushed on in thin layers after the Molotow is cured. Barely perceptible effect on the finish. Even Future wasn't as good. It also helps to thin the Molotow with lacquer thinner before applying it.
@Enigma9792
@Enigma9792 6 жыл бұрын
You can also get jars/tubs of powdered graphite at many art stores relatively inexpensively!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tip!
@MakeBrooklyn
@MakeBrooklyn 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome info Bill I really like the way you totally intentionally had some problems so we would know what not to do. Well done!!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
HAAAA! You're... uhhh... welcome! Yeah! =D
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was totally the plan from the beginning! ;)
@skoue4165
@skoue4165 6 жыл бұрын
Hate to be that guy but graphite powder without a respirator = black lung. I worked for a number of years in a place that had been a graphite manufacturer, probably took years off my life. The other catch is the stuff gets on EVERYTHING. 99% of the graphite in that place was sealed in but I would still come home a light shade of grey. On the flip side it looks great. Good job on the show.
@joycallender9507
@joycallender9507 4 жыл бұрын
God bless your lungs!
@skoue4165
@skoue4165 4 жыл бұрын
@@joycallender9507 Related... I have some aluminum dust, I was looking for powder and somehow ended up with dust. The stuff is so lite it will float up out the top when you open the bottle. And air motion and it will "ride the wave", incredibly cool. But some years later I learned that that is what they originally used on the Tin Woodsman for exposed skin parts. It does work incredibly well for that. But it will get in your lungs and can be very dangerous. It sent the original Tin man to the ICU because of it getting in his lungs. So if you wear a respirator when putting it on you are pretty OK because it sticks to the oils on your skin and doesn't really come off on stuff AND with that tiny bit of oil the stuff doesn't float around like when it's clean in the jar. The look is well very tin man.
@LordRavensong
@LordRavensong 5 жыл бұрын
That finish is GORGEOUS
@MadiLush
@MadiLush 6 жыл бұрын
I really like using Mehron metallic powder. I think it's to mix into body paints. It's on Amazon for like $10. But it goes a long way when you mix it into resin to make castings. Or dusting the molds, and filling with black resin. It comes in a few colors too.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! =D
@pandapropsncostumes
@pandapropsncostumes 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Bill! Couple tips: If you want a more consistent flow to the Molotow, I did a test where I thinned it with about 30-40% lacquer thinner. It went on way smoother and yielded a more chrome like finish, but it took DAYS to dry. If you’re not in a rush, that’s a great way to get an out of the bottle Chrome that’s a little more reflective than Alclad II chrome (which I think would look better than the steel color you had tested). If you use a softer pencil lead on a finer grit sandpaper, it will yield a much finer graphite powder that makes it easier to rub into your surface. Hope that helps!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips, thanks very much!
@JasonGroom
@JasonGroom 4 жыл бұрын
I love that Bill is more than willing to admit when he made mistakes and then talk through what he and we should all learn from his mistakes.
@thecosplaysculptor8509
@thecosplaysculptor8509 6 жыл бұрын
they both look great bill! i have used the graphite technique before eon some sculptures.
@GuanoLad
@GuanoLad 6 жыл бұрын
It can't be denied, Eric stormed that one. But as for exploring experimentation, this is another great video.
@adeadguy
@adeadguy 6 жыл бұрын
just used sanded graphite sticks on my 1st foamsmith project last week, it turned out alright, not having ALL the materials needed. Thanks for this, a lot of good tips for metallic finishes for my future projects. Will share pics with you guys soon, so you can see how well your videos help us! "I play bass for Chunky Metal!!!!"
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! =D
@eddiebernays514
@eddiebernays514 6 жыл бұрын
i used to build model car kits and i almost bought some of that c1 metalizer, glad i saw this vid and how much more i can get for less than what that tiny jar costs.
@pixl3l
@pixl3l 6 жыл бұрын
I have a thing (live in Sweden) that is called stove polish, and that is a waxy thing with graphite in it. So basically a rub n buff with graphite. It makes a really dark and shiny metallic look.
@deathbright107
@deathbright107 6 жыл бұрын
Really good timing! I'm making wonder woman now.
@russfunk7615
@russfunk7615 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill It's me again!. Paint tip. Using a transparent amber paint/stain over liquid Chrome makes a pretty convincing polished gold or brass. I'm not sure how the clear paints from rattle cans react to the chrome so i make a yellow varnish using Elmers clear glue and ink. A trick i picked up trying to make Faux stained glass. Food coloring should work as replacement for ink. Still in testing stage on small parts. Also Thank YOU for the paint tip on air brushing liquid chrome on large parts and the Graphite powder i have never heard of using for props. Thanks again for that and your channel. I am learning a lot from you.
@BrunenG_YT
@BrunenG_YT 6 жыл бұрын
OMG Bill, for years already similar ideas come to our heads at same time. Two weeks ago I too recieved C1 powder for my blades. Also molotow cures for like a week and best thing to clear coat on it is enamel clear like tamiya x-22.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for sharing. =D
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Also shout-out to Britt for the great work behind the camera and editing!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Britt is the best! =D
@BurakkuWolfReading
@BurakkuWolfReading 5 жыл бұрын
Great to watch this video, its refreshing to see that even someone of your skill set Bill is still learning new ways to do things. I've been slowly watching through all your content since I found your channel. I cut my teeth on Adam Savages Tested and learned of your content there. Since finding this I have found my passion for the painting side and slowly the creating side invigorated. I can't wait to start my first kit project soon. When I do I will be sure to shoot you an image of it on twitter. After I finish building I'm looking forward to painting it and seeing what kind of finish I can generate!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 5 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely fantastic!
@loochboy
@loochboy 5 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous! Now I wanna repaint my Batfleck armour!
@kyidyl
@kyidyl 5 жыл бұрын
So for those like mirror pigments...in my experience working with them on nails, they loooove to go into solution. So when you seal them/top coat them they lose shine. When we use them on nails you have to use special top and base coats to get them to work properly. Even when they come in solution already instead of in the powder form, you still need very specific top and base coats or exactly what happened to you will happen. When we use the powders we use really smooth, grippy base coats like your friend did for the graphite powder (ps - you can do this with multichrome pigments too as long as you have black under it.), then rub in the powders, then use special topcoats that dry really fast before the mirror finish has time to go into solution again in the sealant/top coat. Btw the best thing for rubbing in powders isn’t cotton, it’s silicone. Well, not sure about graphite, but for mirror ones and multichromes. Idk what’s in the top coats tho, I just use them. But yeah, that’s a place to start researching the best kind of top coats if you’re interested in mirror finishes. Smooth as possible base coat that’s grippy, and a sealant that dries fast. Or look up some of the us top coats and see what kind of stuff is in them so you can look for similar materials to use. One Night Stand is the most well-known of these. And if you want to experiment, Born Pretty tells tons of colors and finishes of the rub-in powder for cheap. Mirror, multichrome, iridescent, etc.
@sashapatschke6918
@sashapatschke6918 6 жыл бұрын
As a huge fan of Destiny I'd really love to see you guys paint and weather the Ace of Spades you have hanging up in the background.
@skwerwl
@skwerwl 6 жыл бұрын
Your projects never cease to amaze me!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
We're so glad you're having fun!
@roguecthulhu6002
@roguecthulhu6002 6 жыл бұрын
I've never used Future floor polish in an airbrush, but I wipe it on as a top coat to keep (real) brass from tarnishing after it is polished, and I love it for that.
@JDsThatGuy
@JDsThatGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this kind of collaboration video, thanks for sharing!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, so glad you enjoyed it!
@JohnDickinson
@JohnDickinson 6 жыл бұрын
Just mentioning, that Liquid Chrome was regularly mentioned on BaremetalHW a channel about restoring Hotwheels and Matchbox cars, and I believe he did testing about best clear coats for that product. Alto of what he dose gets Spectra Flame colors, which require a shiny metal coat under it.
@montelegaspi
@montelegaspi 6 жыл бұрын
Love starting my day/build with one of these videos playing in the background... Awesome job fellas! :-D
@GecaaaHUN
@GecaaaHUN 6 жыл бұрын
I (we in our clubs workshop) use for 4-5 years Molotow's spray paints. Primers and others. They do a very good job. The metallics contains metal pigments, and the finished props looks like real metal. The only one problem with the metallics are, they can't used with the sponge technic (only works whit the silver/chrome and sometimes with copper). I never used the other paint types from this brand, but I will give a try. We like your videos! Learning a lot. Greetings from Hungary!
@3DPrintFarm
@3DPrintFarm 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm.. very nice! I'm working on some Gotham City manhole coasters printed in resin. Was going to go with Rub and Buff, but the graphite is intriguing..
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Ooooh that might be really cool!
@createscifi
@createscifi 6 жыл бұрын
um yeah, I am going to buy some graphite asap, episode bookmarked. thx as always guys!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Right? It's MAGIC.
@DragonGateDesign
@DragonGateDesign 5 жыл бұрын
Got a 32 minute add for a spray on chrome called Spectra chrome comes in many colors looks awesome. And I love the sword great work 🌟
@TLZ
@TLZ 6 жыл бұрын
I've got some originsl weapon props I plan to make soonish, totally using graphite powder.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Splendid! Have fun! =D
@neo10
@neo10 6 жыл бұрын
I know this sounds insane but I use Deco Art Duraclear gloss varnish that I rub on with a shop rag and i get a nice shiny gloss and sheen on my metal pieces , i also use this trick mixed with a small bit of colored paint to sometimes get a nice patina effect. I know it sounds crazy.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Oooh neat!
@neo10
@neo10 6 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops I just sent you a message on IG showing the result.
@violahero4life
@violahero4life 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting technique! I'd love to see the result! Maybe post a few photos on your Insta?
@ryankrammes8245
@ryankrammes8245 6 жыл бұрын
You know, now that I think about it we accidentally got messy with the graphite on my sons pinewood derby car once and decided to rub it all over it because it looked cool. I’ve tried quite a few of the metalic paints but hadn’t thought of graphite. Cool video!
@mikemartin8408
@mikemartin8408 4 жыл бұрын
I ended up using silver rub n buff and then buffing a nice mirror shine with the graphite powder for my Cylon armor. I ended up with a really cool gunmetal gray which is what I was aiming for.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 4 жыл бұрын
Oh nice work!
@bgttgb100
@bgttgb100 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Savage experimented to great success while building yet another blade runner pistol, and actually got an extremely shiny chrome paint that has a specific lacquer that doesn't dull that paint! he did it on the one with "ivory" handles and its absolutely beautiful!
@marshallr.8121
@marshallr.8121 6 жыл бұрын
been using molotow paints with markers for ages and finally got myself an airbrush earlier this year finally seeing people like Bill and Adam Savage using this chrome as well is really neat
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
It is super neat, for sure! I definitely need to get more practice with it to bend it to my will.
@marshallr.8121
@marshallr.8121 6 жыл бұрын
​@@punishedprops like with any new medium, super happy to see things like these included, it didn't turn out horrible by any means, but its always good to show that everyone can and will make mistakes
@drewbakka5265
@drewbakka5265 Жыл бұрын
Not a sage but as a mini painter to get rich golds, we usually have a brown undercoat in the same way for silvers we have a black one. I wonder if the same idea applies to full scale painting
@Dach101
@Dach101 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing - the graphite looks really good
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@mjrenders
@mjrenders 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel !! for creative people this is educational and fun but most of all relaxing.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 4 жыл бұрын
That's really wonderful to hear :)
@mjrenders
@mjrenders 4 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops Only the fact that yo take your time to read and answer the comments , make me love your channel even more Thanks Bill
@GuttedWrenStudios
@GuttedWrenStudios 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Gonna use these for my Witcher swords.
@allluckyseven
@allluckyseven 5 жыл бұрын
That graphite coated blade looks absolutely fantastic! Are there different hardnesses of graphite powder? If so then maybe a harder one (H instead of B) would make it brighter..?
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if that would make a difference, but it's worth a shot.
@coregeek
@coregeek 5 жыл бұрын
I did some more testing and a white base makes for a much brighter chrome kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPEgICrpt2AY8k
@shadowslayer2011
@shadowslayer2011 6 жыл бұрын
The Man looks like he competed 20yrs in the service and now likes to build props in his spare time.
@wolfsuit_art
@wolfsuit_art 6 жыл бұрын
Now I've got to wonder if chrome effect nail powders could be applied in a similar way. They usually require a UV gel base coat to adhere. But I'd be surprised if there isn't a clear coat somewhere in existence that would produce the same effect. If anybody has tried this I'd like to know.
@lovecraft999
@lovecraft999 5 жыл бұрын
i did an experiment on using these nail powders before, no UV gel base coat needed. you just need to use a tacky acrylic paint so that the chrome powder can stick on kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGSXm2Cjn6yfgMk
@blaknyte
@blaknyte 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill, you and Eric had discussed doing the graphite over grey to get a lighter color. How about going all out on a test and try it over multiple colors and sheens to see what kind of effects you can get from this technique. Thanx for the videos -
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! I've been collecting resources and ideas for a more comprehensive "chrome finish" video. No idea when we might get around to it...
@coregeek
@coregeek 5 жыл бұрын
If you insist! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPEgICrpt2AY8k
@seanbolin7963
@seanbolin7963 4 жыл бұрын
Toy polloi did a really good video on the liquid chrome.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 4 жыл бұрын
Oh cool!
@plastickhero
@plastickhero 6 жыл бұрын
Bill rockin' that airbrush without the rear needle guard like a pro.
@TheeManWIthNoLife
@TheeManWIthNoLife 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! But the 60 fps just looks weird... Will defiantly be picking up some graphite powder! That stuff looks sick!
@brendanrodgers504
@brendanrodgers504 4 жыл бұрын
Molotow sells the burner chrome in a rattle can that you can use different sized caps to get a larger coverage.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 4 жыл бұрын
Oh cool!
@Sharklops
@Sharklops 5 жыл бұрын
Also check out Steel-it spray paint. It has actual stainless steel flakes in suspension and it can give a great steel look
@csorgb05
@csorgb05 6 жыл бұрын
i gotta get some graphite powder!!!
@darklordofsword
@darklordofsword 8 ай бұрын
Ive been using graphite rubs for gunmetal and other blued finishes for a couple of years. My only gripe is that you lose so much of the shine when you lay down a clear coat over it.
@JonathanMorley
@JonathanMorley 6 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how the graphite powder looks on the silver painted blade to see if it turns out more silver and less gunmetal while keeping that impressive shine
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
That would definitely be neat to test!
@coregeek
@coregeek 5 жыл бұрын
I tested it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPEgICrpt2AY8k
@sebs7272
@sebs7272 6 жыл бұрын
Cmon, you made all this amazing stuff, but never made a master sword?!? Thats like propgeek 101 :P! Anyways, love your content!
@gogeta2319
@gogeta2319 5 жыл бұрын
I was curious if buffing Bill's clear coat would bring out some of the shine?
@garagemonkeysan
@garagemonkeysan 6 жыл бұрын
T-Short slogan: "Makers hate wet paint." Whenever I plan to paint, I always have another project to distract me while the paint dries. Great video, learned a lot. : )
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Celticshade
@Celticshade 5 жыл бұрын
Chunky metal is the hardest band of the late 80s, early 90s.
@delron1594
@delron1594 6 жыл бұрын
I love the graphite powder but i think it would have looked better with a glossy white since graphite is a very dark grey
@coregeek
@coregeek 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the look you’re going for. You are correct white does make a brighter chrome.
@JopieUTube
@JopieUTube 5 жыл бұрын
That Eric is one cool guy.
@coregeek
@coregeek 5 жыл бұрын
Gosh, thanks! 😊
@UnvarnishedTarnished
@UnvarnishedTarnished 6 жыл бұрын
Mate, on that airbrush holder.. I don't think you're meant to put any water or anything in it. It's just meant to catch all that you spray into it. After awhile it collects in there and you empty it out.
@calebquiroz-hansen5680
@calebquiroz-hansen5680 6 жыл бұрын
Hey bill, do you think you'd ever do a video about this graphite stuff on eva foam?
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure! If we do, you'll definitely see it here though!
@protator
@protator 5 жыл бұрын
They get along so well. Look at them, playing with each others ... sword. oO Haha... couldn't resist. Gret video.
@bondoman16
@bondoman16 6 жыл бұрын
Coregeek! damn what a cool guest, been following him for a long time on Instagram :D
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Michel Bondo Hansen Thank you!
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Hurray! Eric is a really fantastic human. =)
@RogueMusicFreak
@RogueMusicFreak 5 жыл бұрын
What if white base coat was applied on the swords before painting it? Eric's looks kind of darker than normally blades look at the end result. Would that make a difference and be shinier with white base coat?
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure! Worth experimenting with.
@kenny241100
@kenny241100 5 жыл бұрын
If You mixed in pearlescent powder into the graphite would it have a more pearly and/or Iridescent finish?
@Chuckwagon524
@Chuckwagon524 6 жыл бұрын
they make a Easy Chrome paint that literally brushes on. Something to try? Not sure if it works well with model plastics. With colored semitransparent paint under or over the chrome you could get varied effects? Also a couple coats of clear, wet sanding with fine grit in between, then buffing with car wax for final glossy finish.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
The Alsa "Easy Chrome" is pretty good, but it doesn't brush on quite as well as their promo videos would lead us to believe. It's also bonkers expensive. I'm not saying it isn't a good option, but it isn't the magic bullet we all hoped would be. Volpin Props did a great review of the product here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGmzkHurnbF9j8U
@supernan312
@supernan312 5 жыл бұрын
Punished Props Academy kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmXRpnmsps15hKc
@astrid3321
@astrid3321 6 жыл бұрын
The swords look super nice, but it doesn't quite fit my aesthetic.... I'm gonna cover my prop swords in G L I T T E R
@thematthewlondon
@thematthewlondon 6 жыл бұрын
try the graphite over your silver base! the graphite looked amazing as he was buffing it on but at the end of the video from a distance it just looked shiny black, i really want to see what it would do on a lighter base
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!
@coregeek
@coregeek 5 жыл бұрын
Here ya go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPEgICrpt2AY8k
@technicallyartistic
@technicallyartistic 6 жыл бұрын
I ran into similar issues with the Molotow. I feel like it's how fast it begins to set, and you only get the chrome effect when it's wet and thick. I wonder if the Tamiya paint retarder would work with it to give you more time to lay it down? I need to wait for another project where I need to cover that much surface area, so if you try it before me, please show it in a video.
@technicallyartistic
@technicallyartistic 6 жыл бұрын
Follow up, multiple coats don't help with the shine, and you run into the same issue. With my experience it took one good thick coat to get a nice shine, and trying to get it in one nice even coat to avoid dripping and pooling. It looks best right before it's about to pool seems to be the catch. I ended up doing a lot of wet sanding to get it even. You can patch it, but it's real tricky to do and every pass can result in a chance to introduce new blemishes. Also, even after it's dried for a couple days it really doesn't seem to like to be touched and you kind of need to put on a clear coat to protect it. Alclad's clear coats also seem to work with it. But multiple light coatings won't get that mirror-like finish I found. It wants to have enough to form a nice smooth surface before drying which is how you get that real mirror like shine out of it.
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
@@technicallyartistic I found the same results in my personal tests with Molotow.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
I think if I try to paint something this big with Molotow again, I'll use a larger sprayer to get a wider spray pattern and cover it all in one good pass.
@Dsk001
@Dsk001 6 жыл бұрын
@@technicallyartistic How long do you let it dry before applying the alclads clear to the molotow. Ive always wanted to use this paint but every time I try, just looking at it funny messes it up.
@technicallyartistic
@technicallyartistic 6 жыл бұрын
@@Dsk001 A couple days minimum. You loose a good bit of shine for sure, but it still looks better than the silver paint to me, so it's a compromise I'm willing to live with in that case. The only thing I've found that doesn't really diminish it too much was a resin clear coat, but that was over the plate of a joystick. Not a model figure I was working on. Also, you use a blow torch to get the bubbles out of the resin, probably not a good idea to apply that to plastic parts.
@mikejulien2330
@mikejulien2330 6 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested to see what the graphite looks like over the high gloss from as it it (if you are just going to do the graphite finish on the sword anyway). Would it be a lighter metallic colour if it’s not over black paint? Might save you painting it black first.
@antonios4926
@antonios4926 4 жыл бұрын
The question is. How much to buy one fully painted. From UK
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interest, but Punished Props is not currently taking on any new commission clients. Thank you for your understanding! If you want to inquire about commissions from Eric, check out his website, www.coregeek.net/
@KyrianVT
@KyrianVT 6 жыл бұрын
Hi again is there a way to know where Eric got his t shirt my friend who always help me with my props definitely need it :O
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Lalonde Can order from my website. www.coregeek.net
@Lemonbud
@Lemonbud 4 жыл бұрын
How does the graphite finish hold up against the weather. Humidity, rain, etc. I love the simplicity of it all but being in a humid area I wonder how well it sticks doing a Con at say Dragoncon in Atlanta.
@coregeek
@coregeek 4 жыл бұрын
Direct water exposure will spot, or if exposed enough, wash it off somewhat.
@beckymurphy4714
@beckymurphy4714 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not finding that specific graphite powder on the Chemical Store's site. What's the best budget-friendly alternative? I'm planning on doing Joan of Arc's armor, and I don't think spray paint is going to cut it.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
We couldn't find a good listing on Amazon, so we included the specs in the description so that folks could hopefully find something similar somewhere else. The cheapest option is to buy a graphite stick from an art store and just grind it up with sandpaper. Works great! I didn't test it, but I bet the "lead" from a pencil would work just fine too.
@marcellsadventures8599
@marcellsadventures8599 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Punished Props! I was wondering what kind of sealant I could use on the sword to not ruin the metallic finish. Thanks ahead of time!
@coregeek
@coregeek 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXnJcnt7mZuSbbM
@acelamb7532
@acelamb7532 6 жыл бұрын
Could you guys make the Zydrate Gun from Repo! The Genetic Opera?
@somekindofdevil
@somekindofdevil 6 жыл бұрын
How would you weather graphite applied part?
@blairlyons4254
@blairlyons4254 6 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video where you used baby powder. Had to let you know of the possibility that it can contain small amount of asbestos. I felt I had to say something. Love your videos!
@dibbzotool704
@dibbzotool704 5 жыл бұрын
bill im wondering if you use the graphite get it on and buff it out an all that .ect .then used a cooper or chrome rub-an-buff would it make it a bit more realistic bc from the video it looks good but just dark so all heck .
@PlanetAlexanderProjects
@PlanetAlexanderProjects 6 жыл бұрын
So even if you're adding multiple layers of paint on top, a gloss primer/clear coat beneath the paint layers will still help give it a shiny appearence?
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
It can help boost the gloss a bit if you find that your base coat isn't shiny enough.
@omglozza
@omglozza 8 күн бұрын
How do you hook up the sword without it interfering with the paint job? Doing one of my first at the moment and struggling. It's fallen off the mount and snapped once already!
@c.a.k.comedy692
@c.a.k.comedy692 6 жыл бұрын
According to my art teacher, acrylic paint is actually plastic based paint, but it can be thinned with water
@GrunkelGwen
@GrunkelGwen 6 жыл бұрын
Still amazed how graphit powder can shine and stay on without coat :o
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't it totally bonkers?
@GrunkelGwen
@GrunkelGwen 6 жыл бұрын
It IS totally bonkers, @@punishedprops Glad someone explained on FB why that works. The comparison with 1000th miniature tacks getting pushed into the coat by polishing was really good!
@Sharklops
@Sharklops 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would work to rub some molybdenum disulphide grease all over and then try to wipe it off. It has a nice metallic sheen to it
@Brett1692
@Brett1692 6 жыл бұрын
quick question, as an avid user of the air brush, do you find gravity fed or pressure fed to to easier to use/give a better finish?
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Brett McCutcheon I prefer gravity fed. Less hassle all around. IMHO.
@Brett1692
@Brett1692 6 жыл бұрын
@@coregeek aweaome. Been using an old pressure fed that my boss let me have from work and was looking at buying a new one. Noticed you guys use geavity so figured id ask
@cohenw2614
@cohenw2614 6 жыл бұрын
His Apple Watch belt is so cool
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I made it myself.
@pixl3l
@pixl3l 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see some steel like that and then ad some graphite powder to that.
@marialiyubman
@marialiyubman 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how the graphite powder doesn’t come off.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy huh? It can wear down over time but once it's thoroughly rubbed into the surface it's pretty much just there
@coregeek
@coregeek 3 жыл бұрын
If you ever purchase any you will. This stuff is worse than glitter! It’s spreads all over and sticks to anything!
@MrBarcode
@MrBarcode 6 жыл бұрын
Tip from the miniature wargaming group. Use that pledge and acrylic paints or inks to make a wash.
@ericlaw1225
@ericlaw1225 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video, I have a question: can this "shinny" effect be achieve with a EVA foam sword ? Maybe sealed with plasti dip or other method?
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, I haven't tried! But it would totally be worth testing! I think if you get a nice smooth surface it should probably work just fine.
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
Agreeing with Bill here. Keeping it smooth would be the key.
@josh.8104
@josh.8104 6 жыл бұрын
Bill brought an actual frickin Viking Warlord into the shop to paint swords.
@coregeek
@coregeek 6 жыл бұрын
;)
@thatguymarco
@thatguymarco 6 жыл бұрын
yep *im gonna subscribe now*
@aaronraw
@aaronraw 5 жыл бұрын
AllClad2 Gloss Lacquer for sealing Molotow. Its 0 difference from the straight Molotow. Its awesome. Sand it to 2000, Spray it on...THEN LET IT DRY. IT TAKES FOREVER. THEN use the lacquer. Its pretty bulletproof after that.
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, giving the Molotow several days to fully dry seems to be critical.
@logan91235
@logan91235 5 ай бұрын
Once it is done, does the graphite come off when handled?
@NateNook
@NateNook 5 жыл бұрын
Would you suggest in this order: filler primer, createx black, createx gloss, alclad2, then finish with alclad aqua top coat?
@punishedprops
@punishedprops 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that should work. A lot of the finish depends on your application technique too, so it'll take some practice for sure.
@arikbord2256
@arikbord2256 6 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if the graphite over the chrome paint would work, then clear over that?
@Warhawk76
@Warhawk76 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that steel paint with graphite on top to add some shine
@kleber1983
@kleber1983 Жыл бұрын
what happens if you wash it with water? Does the graphite comes out anyhow? thx!
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