Shocking Tech That's Making A Comeback! | Dirt Shed Show 504

[@gmbn]

What’s your favourite old shocking tech that you would like to see make a comeback?

[@jasonreynolds1715]

Onza bar ends! Come on! I still don’t understand why they disappeared / the hand position is waaaaay better when climbing

[@reneesui9206]

frame lugs, simply for the looks. i bet with modern milling machines we could have some really pretty ones

[@johnsonjae]

32in Bicycles

[@durden.tyler537]

The Mountain Cycle San Andreas

[@drumbrakes]

The flexstem and suspension seatposts! Actually No As Roy Williamson wrote: Those days are past now and in the past they must remain.

[@johanvonbackstrom8522]

Thanks GMBN for keeping me entertained while I'm stuck in bed after my acl surgery. You make life off the bike so much better

[@gmbn]

Ouch! We wish you a good recovery Johan, Neil is also out of action with the same thing and a couple of people behind the scenes have also done it. It's a long recovery so try to keep your head in a good space!

[@petereverett2354]

@@johanvonbackstrom8522 wrist surgery here

[@InitialP_Photography]

Tried riding with my dog once, he made me hit the floor more times than usual, then eventually had enough and slipped the lead and ran off with me chasing him and screaming at him like a lunatic, I lost him but thankfully he made it home and was sat there like a stupid idiot waiting for me..... I'd only been in the house with him a week, so I was crapping my pants wondering if he knew where he was going! He's still with me and is 16 years old now.

[@martynashtonGMBN]

That is a brilliant story.

[@InitialP_Photography]

@@martynashtonGMBN At the time it wasn't fun or brilliant haha.

[@vanabondmoto]

@@InitialP_Photography I ride with my dog often enough, no leash, he follows me

[@d-mattik7088]

Tying your dog to your bike is madness. My 2 run free and love riding trails with me

[@InitialP_Photography]

@@d-mattik7088 he wasn't tied to it, he was on a leash and I was holding it. It was to try and get him used to being with me on a bike. Sadly, he's terrified of everything due to being a rescue pup and even walking him with me walking the bike with him he was terrified and ran off on our second test.

[@WetBananaMike]

A Girvin style fork was always great looking, I just wish it would have stayed around a little longer.. I loved it on my Proflex 954!

[@UndCon]

DCD - Daves Chain Device and Crud Catcher - the plug in the lower part of steering tube to prevent muck filling it.

[@drumbrakes]

There was a version of that steerer plug called the Crud-Bung, A red one came free with MBUK around Comic Relief day one year. I'm still running a crud catcher and crud bung. New bikes should be required to come with threaded holes in the down tubes to fit them, I think Pace actually did for a few years. Use Zefal Gizmo 108 for a clean looking way to mount a Crudcatcher.

[@UndCon]

Correct, crud bung.... Still got it, the red MBUK edition.

[@paulwiltshire3101]

I found out i have the same injury to my knee as Neil, wishing neil a speedy recovery dudes

[@Ferrari255GTO]

Can't forget about blake, poor guy hit the floor HARD that last time. It's a good thing he's as tough as he is 😂

[@gmbn]

Hope your knee gets better soon!

[@ertman]

I would bring back 10 speed drivetrains. I still want the wide ratio of today, but there just isn't a need for 12 gears!

[@ILoveshredding]

26:13 I submitted my fuel suspension bike before watching this video for next week 😭😭😭 Can it save it for the bike vault after the next one. I would to take a picture of my trek Excalibur 9 but I have a dislocated knee so no mtb for me for 4 weeks 😔

[@junka1975]

A dangerous bouncer with the stuntmug from Martyn leaves everyone in stunned states but un phased by the delivery Rich takes a great catch on the return. The bike vault bell not as easily fielded though as Rich probably felt a tomahawk had been thrown at him by Martyn. 😜👍

[@underbikedoverconfident1142]

"Do you remember this old Manitou FS?"... GMBN I don't care how big and legendary you all are, you don't just get to skim over the original Manitou FS, like that! Be still my beating heart! Does anyone remember the Manitou FS? Does anyone remember that picture where Kate Moss was posing on one? It's still a dream build for me!

[@Rooksfoot]

Yes and yes.... you discerning man of culture you 👍

[@gmbn]

[@GBlackeagle]

Paul's components has great PURPLE components!

[@JamesMkII]

“Just go a second faster and you’ll win every race” - you heard it here first folks, we’ve cracked it 😬😂

[@squishybiker]

One real benefit to putting suspension behind the seat tube is it frees up the triangle for bottles - I could see this really useful in an XC or downcountry frameset

[@prolfinator]

Alright, notes taken. Guess ill forgo my water next ride if my hip bag is full, gotta make sure you look good before you feel good. 👌

[@sadiejones7991]

H's and B's song was professionally done. Y'all could make a great duo singing.

[@faithwalk5926]

Ashtyn I want you to know that I have been watching you and your show about 7 years now and your show is the greatest mountain bike show ever is the history of mankind and it has brought me so much entertainment, joy and education in my skills and love for biking and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart and I pray to my God that ALL of your endeavors in life are highly successful and fruitful to all that are around you. May God bless you my Friend.

[@gmbn]

Thanks so much!

[@Random_6.9_42]

#oldshockingtech: the burley rock and roll tandem with a softride rear suspension beam. Good luck trying to control that beast!

[@Toastybear1]

Road has gone gravel, gravel has gone slack and got suspension, mountain bikes are getting drop bars and downhill has gone aero. I absolutely love this, roadies are having the same revolution that the rest of cycling had in the 90’s with a COMPLETELY straight face, and mountain bikers are going to the exact same place.

[@garymoore5044]

I remember the manitou bike the first time round, I think it was 93-94 that it arrived, I have serviced a few and built a couple of them too. Then I also remember Marin made one with a steel frame and manitou rear shocks

[@matt_acton-varian]

Things we like this week... I like seeing what Martyn is talking about before he says " dogging"... 😂😂😂😂

[@Tijgerhaai_MTB]

Take a look at the mountain bike museum in Arnhem, the Netherlands. New tech according to marketing? It's all there. Been there, done that.

[@BazippysVideos]

Not really for a come back, but man I loved my MRP chain device. It looked the mutts and worked, I wish i had kept it for my wall.

[@drumbrakes]

I love how in the first 5 minutes you've gone from slagging off a company that's trying telescopic rear suspension, to berating linkage front suspension. If one method is better than the other, why not use it at both ends? Or if linkage suspension is better for small bump compliance, why not use that at the front, and use telescopic at the back?

[@gmbn]

That would be amazing to test! It would create such a unique silhouette 👌

[@ciraloke]

Re under-tube bottle mount . .I appreciate having the extra mount, and just swap the lid over when I swap the bottles. I'd rather have the extra water as I do looong rides. I carry two 1L bottles and in summer drink three bottles worth - the second bottle has more (2x) concentrated electrolytes and I split it between the bottles and add water when I have the opportunity - takes some planning for the stop(s), but worth it. Also as I get older (and less heat tolerant), I'd much rather carry water on the bike than on my back (too hot in AU) - I have three hydration packs that I don't use any more - nothing goes on the back now. Repair gear in the saddle bag, phone, sunscreen and food-bars in the stem bag.

[@prolfinator]

Yeah, I don't get why they are hating on me lol. I just had my hip bag full of snacks and couldn't fit my water in there so I mounted it in the only place I could fit it on the bike. Do these guys want me to get dehydrated after biking 20+ miles lol.

[@chrismillard3044]

Omg it's a thing of beauty. Love the Mani

[@ashleyphotog]

Looking forward to seeing bar ends return!

[@RoastHardy]

Toby Henderson Enterprise fenders and brake covers, l totally remember those.

[@ADI121195]

I’d love to try that manitou bike tbh see how it feels on a trail but I can see the stantions getting peppered from the tire especially on any sort of gravel surface

[@SpaynjXD]

That Atherton is the prettiest bike I have ever seen next to the Scott lumen E-Ride

[@kunzworld2309]

That bike was the dream of my dreams when I was racing in the 90s...

[@andyamos8594]

Back to the future...front derrailleur, haha, do away with the 46- 52 tooth on the rear and put an extra 42/28 tooth on the front. proboably would be lighter too!

[@Jellytaco.]

That Atherton in the bike vault 🥵 🥵 🥵

[@Stazemtb]

Best show of the week 🤟

[@gmbn]

stoked you think that! 👊

[@ChampyOnPC]

I think they look sick, but wonder if they are actually any good. Doesnt side to side hits damage the forks? I would love to try one for sure

[@DGYSAM]

Martyn....I LOVED Hammerschmidt. Infact I believe I have all the worlds spare parts for Hammerschmidt. Even though I dont use it anymore.

[@martynashtonGMBN]

[@rosemarieschulz7032]

Hey GMBN do any of you presenters know what frame size Blake Sampson's dirt jump bike is?

[@brianculver433]

I have the Priority 600HXT. Love the Pinion Smart Shift 12 speed gearbox.

[@mickeytabby354]

I can't be the only one on a 12 speed cassette mostly just using the top 3 and bottom 3 sprockets. Can we shave cost or weight and ditch the middle 6 gears?

[@breakersteve]

Old tech comeback. Maybe the elevated chainstay like my 90’s Ozone (that I still have!).

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I was thinking you guys would merge with embn but I understood what was going on with Neil's career and life plans update. I wish him the best of luck with the surgery and adventures on embn, love Neil, but can't wait to consume mtb specific content 😅

[@notpablo8369]

All the bike need is manitou's Jack dropper to complete the kit🔛🔝

[@BeeCee100279]

The Tier bike has some stories to tell; they should have an integrated pissed adventure recording device

[@GrahamFootBicycleLover]

Lawwill Leader fork

[@Ndc710]

Cowhorn handlebars I would love to see as. Comeback item. They were great in the 70s. Love them, they were great at bonfire night put a banger down each cowhorn then ride around until they go bang, super fun.

[@MookPanda]

@@Ndc710 You can still get them - Ergon GA5 grips!

[@canuckchuck8836]

Bring back toe clips! There is nothing more satisfying than sparks coming off the toe clips when you can't get the pedal flipped fast enough.

[@stevenreyes3680]

That Atherton bike with the red spacers. One word: fugley. Why not skip the spacers and use a riser bar to bring bars up to your hands ? This would also take a lot of stress off your headset. Beyond all that, I like my steerer to come all the way through the stem with a 5mm spacer on top. Again, less flimsy…

[@hjellmarhjelle5716]

i'm just here for the bike vault

[@ebikescrapper3925]

The square tubing reminds me of the original PACE bikes.

[@FredBeltran-o3d]

Old tech I'd like to see come back is loop stays (Yeti, Cook Bros ) for hard tails. Best passive suspension ever.

[@winklertribe5268]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE that new Manitou bike!

[@gmbn]

Very cool right!?

[@josefcontreras2021]

The rotor cover can divert air flow to the brake, I guess that was the idea besides protection

[@TheJordan221992]

Remember Global bike festival. Will it ever be making a return?

[@gmbn]

We had great fun with them but at this time we don't have plans to continue! Never say never though

[@Adventures_with_Sog]

I'd like to see the Girvin Vector forks come back that were on the Pro flex bikes

[@bojansusanj3976]

Can you guys please make videos about dirtjumps bike?...whats the different between dirtjumper and pumptrack bike....maybe some bike check...i'll be thankful...greetings from Croatia🤟

[@gmbn]

Hey! Every bike is a pump track bike if you try hard enough A DJ bike or a BMX will work best at the pump track though

[@RubenJFernandes]

Garmin doesn't have sticky mount but there are some aftermarket brands that make them.

[@kennethcampbell7263]

The one thing I have against that Canicross is the statement of Oooooo Rabbit.

[@ziickktheog609]

So emojis are a for sure. They are to use. Incase there is a and you have to make sure everyone sees it! So I have to admit I love them Thanks to everyone on the channel #stayhydrated

[@gmbn]

[@reggie5989]

Manitou FS bike, cool, but are you going to ride it??? Please tell me you can ride it.

[@Ashershreds]

tbh a hammershmidt setup like a regular one by could be a cross country weapon

[@philflip1963]

I wish to advocate the re-adoption of 'V' brakes because they are effective enough and lighter than discs, AND if they placed the clamp mechanism for the cable inner on the Left Hand caliper arm instead of on the Right, as at present, (viewed from the front) this would save a few inches in cable and also reduce the curvature of both the cable and Noodle Tube. (Assuming that you operate the front brake with your right hand, as most peeple do). Note, I hear that in the USA the Law actually requires that the front brake lever goes on the left. But then what can you expect from pople that drive on the wrong side of the road!

[@peterhowse6237]

Devon Howlers challenge the Embn and Gmbn crew to a race ebike , mtb and bikejor around Newnham in Devon !!!

[@MrPalmerboii]

Manitou is certainly something to behold, I kinda love it though its a from me.

[@cwistyler3531]

I got a dh and i only use 3 to 4 gears and i don't do downhill i wanted to but i don't have the balls and skill so ive kept the bike and just ride around the woods and the streets. Wrong type of bike for what i use it for but i just love it and spent about £3000 on newer parts for it. It's an old orange patriot 2004/2005 model. But recently i seen a video of an orange dh mountain bike imploded and broke in 3 or 4 pieces so know i got concerns about my frame breaking on impact when i jump on it.

[@stuartsmart6840]

not sure of the rear shock on the mani

[@peterhowse6237]

Martin! Come to Newnham Bark to see proper Bikejor with your Dog ☺️👍

[@ChaseBrigham]

I think it would be funny if rim brakes came back

[@JasonTrew2018]

#Captioncompetition When you find your doppleganger is out riding the same trail you're riding on and you both have the same interests

[@simonechiesa1500]

#captioncontest "Please Blake, tell me again the story of how you broke your collarbone" Healing vibes

[@JB50713]

Martyn taking shots at The Don. 🤣

[@ivarwideman3805]

My pick would be 300mm forks

[@johnssmith4005]

And make them inverted ! 😅

[@ivarwideman3805]

@@johnssmith4005 yeah that would be nice

[@JeffMTBinVA]

Not a fan of the speed suits, they are just skin suits with a loop hole. Good show gang, and yes, the emojis are cool

[@gmbn]

Do you think the UCI will crack down on the loop hole next year? 🤔

[@JeffMTBinVA]

​@@gmbn Probably not. I doubt they want to write a regulation that says your clothing has to have x amount of movement.

[@stevenconnor4221]

Bar ends 😂 I used to love the oval cranks ?

[@NanoDex]

If that saddle was made in a single other country I was gonna be pissed

[@nizzurtmontalgizzert6462]

Rich is on point😂 that bike is kinda weird

[@martynashtonGMBN]

?

[@mistermoore5784]

PUH-LEASE do not jinx us by bringing back Cannondale's Headshok for a third go.... NOOOO!

[@dwiesch]

I do not understand peoples aversion to linkage front forks. The only reason the telescopic fork is the "state of the art" is because it was easy at the start and by now is highly developed. But it's kinematic is extremely limited. They move straight. That's it. Whatever the ideal front suspension kinematic is, it's not that. They haven't found it yet (in my opinion) but it will be some form of linkage. And as to the looks: I actually love the look of my Motion E18.

[@OwenBikeNerd]

Very interesting insights! We've got more about the bike on GMBN Tech channel - it would be great to know more about the motion forks you've got! Cheers Owen

[@jsolis7]

I used to run my German Shorthair Pointer sort of like that, but one time I ran her over with my bike. So I ended up getting a bar that was attached to the seat post with a rubber leash, sticking out the right side. Never had a problem running her that way.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

While it is a really fun and neat publicitary stunt, it's by no means good desing, due to the angle it will never be as good as the modern pivots or rear triangles, that's why pivoting forks were an experimental but relatively successfull thing that have returned but rear forks haven't. It's neat and i bet everyone from the era is digging on their pockets for one but it's strictly a gimmick IMO

[@allanbuchan6947]

The Gee Milner build .

[@RobNaughton54]

Jurgen Beneke … I haven’t heard that name on TV since I beat the former World Champ in the inaugural X-Games Downhill mountain bike race and collected a check from ESPN for 10 grand. (See Video below) Not a bad payday for a privateer in 1995. On a Foes Weasel with a 72 degree head angle and 3” of travel on that sweet Rockshox Judy DH. 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanOh4itZc-Xh7csi=zn3INLNMO13uI7dW

[@gmbn]

A legend of the game!

[@X41N3]

Give me a new front derailleur that can deal with narrow wide chainrings!

[@Dillonfinley]

#captioncontest "you got something in your mustache mate, no over to the left a little"

[@yjmechanic]

#captioncontest. You know they say what happens in the desert, stays in the desert

[@reggie5989]

#AskGMBNTech Hello, my TRP trail evo brakes keep making a noise hard to describe, but like they are dirty. I don't think they are contaminated as it looks like no oil on ether rotors or pads. I use disk cleaner and the nose comes back, more on the front then the rear. Could they still be contaminated? I think to try using sandpaper but not sure what grit sandpaper to buy (800-1,000 grit?). Picture of a system that is contaminated would be great.

[@jonnypennell2428]

Bring back 2 speed front gears. Not a derailleur, not a gearbox, these Big cassettes, average chainlines wear out and don't run as nice.

[@brianclease5137]

Any update on Blake's injury?

[@gmbn]

He's doing good! Resting up really. No need for any surgeries which is great

[@vivivi..]

Well i guess this is useful setup for XL riders.

[@ZeeDroid75]

#CAPTIONCONTEST Blake's reaction when he was asked if he wanted to try "The Chute"

[@tonkshred]

I posted a picture of a frame made with two car tailgate shocks replacing the seat stays , manitou just copying me.

[@growlith6969]

Yes. Yes that is cool.

[@caroliro]

Should bikes with reflectors on their spokes get a super nice from the global mountain bike network?

[@SAMUELSUTTON7]

#captioncontast the look you and your mates give each other after making it through a dodgy trail.

[@dumwee]

I want some 160 mm crank arms! Well live in the nr 1 tax country (norway) so dobble price on "everything" taxes+INSANE high shipping costs. /rant off

[@feedbackzaloop]

Heartwarming womp-womp from Germany! Although agree, weird, there are plenty of 165 options, some 155 and only few road cranks are 160.

[@lancewatson2839]

#captioncontest “I know we are in the desert but that drop was so moist”

[@SevernBeach]

I got on Bike Vault :-).

[@sled5196]

#captioncontest Find yourself a riding buddy that looks at you the the way Braydon looks at himself in Blake’s glasses.

[@JamieRidesBikes]

#captioncontest - Blake-back mountain

[@CHRISTOPHERSEAWARD]

AMP F3, also where is Onza

[@paulwiltshire3101]

#captioncompetion, when blake sees you case it

[@jofforiginal1]

Don't put plastic things on stoves that are "lit" 😂