Website: www.FishersSho... Instagram: / fishersshop Store: www.Amazon.com... Plans: www.FishersSho... T-Shirts: www.FishersSho... I made a custom wooden dust shroud for my miter saw and put it to the test.
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@davidmcdaniel99217 жыл бұрын
I'm making one tomorrow. I might make to top out of foam see if it gives it better flexibility. Thanks for the idea and inspiration. Great job
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! This one took quite a bit of trial and error but I can't really argue with the finished product. It works really well. The only issue is that if I'm cutting miters or bevels that I have to slid it out... and it's not the easiest thing to take out.
@bobbydelauraАй бұрын
How do or did you make this I have a Milwaukee miter saw
@bobbydelauraАй бұрын
The part that fits behind your blade
@BronkBuilt6 жыл бұрын
That's why I pull my mitersaw outside and point it at my neighbors yard. Then no worries about dust collection. :)
@larrytraber6 жыл бұрын
BronkBuilt that's genius... Such a savage
@TheAsrguy1236 жыл бұрын
LOL , I like your thinking.
@Carl-LaFong16185 жыл бұрын
great.... cut lots of treated, arsenic infused, flying poison right into their pool. That'll learn em.
@stevexxx60785 жыл бұрын
BronkBuilt... this is your neighbor... thanks for the garden mulch but if you would be so kind, would you cut more cedar please ?
@manit774 жыл бұрын
My neighbor does it to me so I make it a point to do it to him.
@panamafred15 жыл бұрын
When I bought my new miter saw, it came with a small plastic bag of sawdust. The instructions said to put the sawdust in the collection bag so that you will think the thing is working. The Sawdust Collection Illusion Bag is working great and I never have to empty it! Thanks for a great video!
@jeffbavely24165 жыл бұрын
LOL Thanks for the laugh Fred!
@perpetualgardens4 жыл бұрын
Where can I order one of those bags? I will only need 1 right?
@dogface60405 жыл бұрын
In general there are two motivations for dust control: 1) clean up the mess; 2) save your lungs from small (1--3 micron) particles. You got #1 pretty well covered. To reduce small particle contamination, you either wear a breathing apparatus, or engage some exhaust action. A miter saw is a real challenge because there's a very vigorous liberation of small particles. Containment barriers on 5 sides of the cube, plus exhaust inside the containment area definitely help a lot. If you have a large enough space, set a horizontal fan to blow past your shoulder, carrying the fines away from your face; they settle after travelling a few feet. Capture and exhaust is the best strategy.
@danmottesheard52945 жыл бұрын
dude, you better patten that and start working on other brands of miter saws quickly because others will as soon as they see this video. the major brands will be calling you soon. I would pay extra for that. how do you think Craig jig and others got started. that's ingenious. kodos to you.
@calebwillhelm26355 жыл бұрын
100% i always try and fix or make everything myself. I wish i could just buy this lmao
@Dennis-kj9qx4 жыл бұрын
@@calebwillhelm2635 Where are the plans in your Store ? Why are they not for sale ? Exact saw I have.
@calebwillhelm26354 жыл бұрын
@@Dennis-kj9qx not sure what you mean? I was just saying I always try and build everything my self or fix the issue myself. But I would for sure buy this product. Well to.be honest I've just given up on the dust. I just use a backpack blower and blow it out the garage now.
@stopdrinkingleftskoolaid65103 жыл бұрын
Do you have the plans for this?
@larrycarter96505 жыл бұрын
I really like your approach. Wondering if you could make the top where the slot for the blade goes replaceable so you could drop in a new top with a 45 degree slot for miters? A few replaceable tops for the common miter positions might do the trick
@doughaber33302 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to invent a way to use expanding foam to make a shroud
@Dennis-kj9qx4 жыл бұрын
I have the same saw . It would be great to have the plans for the pieces to cut and just put together. I'm INTERESTED ! Anyone have them ?
@TheAlogoc5 жыл бұрын
I copied your design a bit, but i also use the standard dust port that you closed...so i use 2 dust collectors at the same time....Bassicaly it collects 95% now.
@CogentConsult3 жыл бұрын
First, my friend, NO miter saw will ever allow you to draw anywhere near enough dust from the machine as long as they keep only providing 2” or smaller dust ports. 4-inch port is an absolute MUST for a power miter saw, period, end of story. So, connect up a 4-Inch hose, and one heck of a powerful dust collector. Then at least you’ll have enough suction to pull enough dust through that stupid 2-inch built-in port.
@funfreq92823 жыл бұрын
Yup! 2" hose 90 CFM 4" 350 which is the bear minimum requirement for dust collection on a table saw. The other issue is the fact that blade attack angle is always changing on the work depending on the cut as does the sawdust stream.
@akivazohar25025 жыл бұрын
Not only good it’s so much less cumbersome than other solutions
@sapphodesigns23776 жыл бұрын
This is the best and simplest I've seen so far. Plus all those other bulky box things hanging off the back are chunky and unsightly. I will be making something similar for my Makita chop saw.. thanks for sharing..
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@robertrobinson35975 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in how yours works. I tried it on my Makita with only fair results. Quite frankly not worth the trouble. Hope you are a bit more clever than I.
@1AXMRDR4 жыл бұрын
No outtakes! I feel cheated! This is a perfect opportunity for minor burn pains. Trust me, I have done it. At first I thought you were going to slide the beveled piece through the larger piece and wedge it in. Never thought about making a flat flange on it. Nice. Another great instructional Drew.
@FishersShop4 жыл бұрын
Haha yup... this video is OLD. Pre-dates the outtakes
@JeffBourke6 жыл бұрын
7:56 the duct tape is no good. The saw won't be able to shed the dust that gets in there and it will be build up. You are better off Y'ing off your vacuum hose to simultaneously suck from your shroud AND the original extraction port.
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Well it's been over a year or so and don't have any dust build up on the tape. But Y'ing off the hose is a good idea but sacrifices a bit of suction power down where it really counts.
@Dennis-pe6zx5 жыл бұрын
@@FishersShop I think u would b fine without the tape because like u said if the power of the blade pushed any dust up there it would fall back down and get sucked into ur dust collector anyways.
@brantlers2 жыл бұрын
This video still holds up. Except for the part where you blow the dust out of the bucket, hoo boy have we gotten sensitive to dust since 2017!
@RADCOMJ15 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea and very effective can you post more about how you made it?
@brucewallen5935 жыл бұрын
would it improve the vacuum draw if the hole to your vacuum where lower, more in line with the kickout from the saw blade?
@jphoffman17 жыл бұрын
Very impressive! Too bad you didn't film the fabrication of the chute as that process must have been quite challenging.
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I made it before I started the YT channel. I'm sure I'll make others like it for other tools as I get them. Thanks for watching. :)
@Dennis-pe6zx5 жыл бұрын
@@FishersShop Why wouldn't u make another 1 for video purposes? Could always give it away to the 100th commenter or whatever..
@bucketofsteam92603 жыл бұрын
How has no engineer at any of these large companies came up with a basic shroud like this? Plastic mold that clips onto the base, boom, done.
@mikery23165 жыл бұрын
What a convincing demonstration. Excellent work. Thank you..
@jennylynsparrow81172 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing!!!
@robertgaritano77183 жыл бұрын
Significant improvement, I am always exploring new ideas of achieving better dust collection on all my tools.
@ralphsnellen87037 жыл бұрын
Nice work! If you would add a piece of 1/4" to the back fence it would keep the small pieces from going in the collector. This will usually give you a safer and better cut, it does for me. Keep up the good work!
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! Yeah I thought about that, but my fear was that when I'm cutting at my blade isn't far enough back within the shroud that it would just blow dust everywhere defeating the purpose of the whole thing. The bigger the opening, the better it seems to collect. But you're right, a zero clearance back fence is almost a necessity for some cuts. Thanks for watching!!
@michael.schuler2 жыл бұрын
Good job. Good presentation. That said, this solution, like majority of others on YT, should be titled, in effect, improved dust collection for 90 degree crosscuts. As pro finish carpenter, any "solution" that relegates the saw incapable of making the full range of compound cuts leaves the real problem basically unsolved. The solution of this video is valuable for most shop work, but only if the problem is so redefined. Still, thanks for posting.
@bryantidwell43247 жыл бұрын
Okay I have the same miter saw. I. We'd the dimensions to the shroud so I can make one. Great video. I'm a subscriber now.
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I just used cardboard and traced the shape of the fence, cut my pieces, and started gluing stuff together. Then I'd made a test cut, see where dust was squirtin' out and glue in little filler pieces until she was sealed. It's far from perfect and I'm sure you could come up with something better after seeing mine. The biggest thing I regret is making it so that it only works on 90-degree cuts. It would be nice if I had a solution that could handle the blade being at different angles. Sometimes the best solutions are the easiest. I've seen people just make a big tent that funnels down into a dust box. Be sure to let me know what you come up with.
@belindamanning98517 жыл бұрын
So far this seems to be the easiest shroud to build. Good job 👏🏻. Others I have seen are quite complicated and bulky that mounts to a wall. I’m gonna use you system for sure. Thanks
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Belinda. I've been using it for almost a year now and still really like how it performs. One thing that I've noticed though is that if you want to chop and push the blade through the cut, then you should first cut a small groove for the blade to send the sawdust through. Otherwise, the dust still goes everywhere. But if you're dropping the blade and then pulling through the cut, then you're fine just like that. You'll see what I mean once you make yours.
@eatman6511 Жыл бұрын
That works extremely well my friend.
@mcattack20093 жыл бұрын
Very smart! I like it. Most of my cuts are also 90 degrees.
@sinsin19723 жыл бұрын
First mistake, you bought a Craftsman. Poor dust collection design.
@woodworksbygrampies12842 жыл бұрын
Hola! 🖐 That was a very interesting experiment and it seems that you found a good solution that works for you. It's awesome that using MDF you were able to form a shape that works for your application. There are lots of videos about "solving" the dust collection at the miter say, I really enjoyed this one. Take care and have a good one, Adios! 👊
@FishersShop2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@stripermanly3 жыл бұрын
That works fairly well. I may make something similar for mine.
@Raul28153 Жыл бұрын
just so ya know, soft woods don't have much silica in 'em but hard woods do. Ya gotta filter down to a micron. Silica in the lungs causes cumulative damage that doesn't heal.
@Yahoomediaclub6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Brilliant solution, ⚙️🛠⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@priscwy794frag3 жыл бұрын
The shroud can be used as new model for the Dart Vader head in remake of Star wars.
@jamesjurss8465 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Your shop and videos have both come a long way since this video!! Keep up the great work!!
@Tinman5805 жыл бұрын
Problem with your saw is the position of the laser. Because of where it is positioned you can not have any kind of dust collection boot in behind the blade. That being said, your solution works very well. If you wanted to use a larger diameter hose from your Dust Deputy could you not come in from left side instead of behind the blade? Just a thought. Love your videos and your sense of humour.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that might work. Others have suggested adding in a Y-adapter and making another run to the standard dust port on top too.
@FriendM20105 жыл бұрын
Going through same realization with stock dust flap on new miter, nice before after ....
@RobKwalheim4 жыл бұрын
Pure witchcraft! Love your idea. One of the best solutions I've seen.
@RoseWoodWork5 жыл бұрын
You are the only one that I've seen that have a great solution for the problem, I just bought a new slider mightier saw that dust goes everywhere like yours, so this is perfect. Thanks you so much for sharing your idea!!! :D
@felixreali71013 жыл бұрын
brilliant. definitely trying this. such small little adjustments that can make such a big difference in airborne saw-dust; less cleaning and better air-quality in your lungs! thanks for sharing this
@FishersShop3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@billdiehl1567 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a miter saw that had decent dust collection. And the dust bags that come with the saws are a joke!! I believe that the dust collection bags that come with miter saws are pre-filled with about 3 tablespoons of sawdust. Because that is all that is EVER collected!! I'll have to try your set up. Seems like it works very well and it beats blowing it in my neighbors open window.
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Haha! Couldn't agree more! The only downfall of my solution is having to take it out for miter cuts. But for 90-degree cross-cuts, it works wonderfully! For wide pieces, I found I have to make a shallow pass first to create a channel for the sawdust to go. Then I start with the blade extended out and push in, taking deeper passes. The cuts take a little longer, but virtually no dust at all.
@sandman26517 жыл бұрын
great how to i will have to give it a go iv seen several ways of doing it but yours looks good,like you said its a hard one to stop all dust doing its own thing
@timflanigan85865 жыл бұрын
That, sit, is what one would refer to as a “Dramatic increase”!.....well done!
@d1027j7 жыл бұрын
Love the idea, but I have to ask. What kind of wood work do you do to keep such a clean and organized shop? I only wish mine looked that good! LOL.
@diyprojectchannel6 жыл бұрын
Nice solution. Thank you for the test 👍👍👍
@kevinkee44144 жыл бұрын
nice video, I'm curious how well it collects dust with cutting a wider board. That saw can handle some bigger boards. how well does it collect when you have a larger piece with the blade fully extended?
@FishersShop4 жыл бұрын
Does just fine. The trick is to cut a shallow kerf to allow the dust to travel in as you pull the blade out. Then drop it down and push forward in increments.
@AereForst5 жыл бұрын
Patent that baby and make some $$$.
@matthewmclaren93535 жыл бұрын
Nice! I have that same saw. It's a good saw but dust collection sucks...pun intended.
@Carl-LaFong16185 жыл бұрын
my vacuum sucks so bad ...... it blows.
@cwinegarden64264 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ideas!
@myfabulouschaos80023 жыл бұрын
Please teach how to make one! Step by step please!
@LazyCrazyGuy4 жыл бұрын
Rookie woodworker here, just bought a bunch of new tools including a miter saw and the first thing I noticed was how bad the vacuum/miter dust chute system was at it's job. Now that you gave me the best version I've seen. I have a suggestion which is what I will do for mine. The issue you said you were having is doing miter cuts so you have to remove if you want to do those cuts, right? May I suggest cutting the left/back side as low as miter bevels then adding a left back corner wall with sliders and adjustment knobs that you can tighten or loosen to proper height for your specific cut. Thanks again for this genius idea.
@terapiu7 жыл бұрын
I THINK you might get better results if you put a splitter on the hose and add one to the saw's dust collection...
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! I never thought of that. Thanks, terapiu!
@terapiu7 жыл бұрын
Yw!
@mikemayfield51725 жыл бұрын
Terapiu, please elaborate. I don’t follow. ☹️
@cognitor9007 жыл бұрын
What a great piece of kit!!! Well thought through....Hurry up and patent it!! A zero clearance insert works really well and especially with an under saw suction hood (planer hood upside down)....in getting the larger dust particles collected however all saws produce this incredibly microscopic 1 micron or less dust haze that is spewed out of the back of the blade towards the user....that's the super difficult one to collect..... Without wanting to start some argument or involve weird conspiracy theories....for 25 yrs the manufacturers (and by an large they're often as ineffectual and confounding as each other - not counting the cloned copies of course 🤔😀) how is it that a fellow (and NO DISRESPECT INTENDED WHATSOEVER) can produce TWO significant dust reduction strategies in the space of one KZbin channel and more than 20 different manufacturers over 25 years cannot? Beggars belief that they're trying as hard as they can....wonder how long til they start allowing litigation in the US from end users regarding dust damage to lungs from poorly designed dust collection on mitre saws? There has to be a better way for users who spend multi million dollars pa to get better products than wait until someone produces a KZbin video..... Some caveats...I'm no safety nazi, nor troll, yet I do smoke, (I understand smoke and dust) am not from USA and I have 3 mitre saws of which one is a Festool Kapex....(arguably the best saw on the planet....trust me, the other 2 ain't!!!).
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I was just getting tired of all the dust being thrown everywhere and tried to Macgyver something up to at least do a slightly better job. Turns out what I made has been pretty darn good. Don't get me wrong, it can certainly be improved. One viewer suggested instead of plugging up the top port, introduce a Y fitting in the shop vac hose and suck from both spots. That was a good idea that I haven't done just yet. The real downside to my solution though is that it doesn't work for miter or bevel cuts. Instead I have to take it out and then I have zero dust collection. One day I'll hopefully save up enough pennies for the Festool. :) Thanks for watching, cognitor900
@cognitor9007 жыл бұрын
Fisher's Shop The Kapex still doesn't eliminate the dust problems though it has gotten very good with a suitably powerful vacuum....I still can't get past the value of that at $1100 AUD.... why don't they make a really really REALLY good vac at $70, lose some money but get a truck load of buyers who will then gladly spend the typical Festool big dollars for a really premium tool plus dust solution? Don't get me wrong, every little tiny Festool thing is marvellously, excitingly engineered so that using anything weird limey coloured green becomes a real joy however getting the tool/dust argument consigned to the previous century I would have thought been a done deal...SIGH! However the German and Austrian manufacturers do pay attention.... a beautiful tablesaw owned by Marius (no doubt you already have..on KZbin) Hornberger was "fixed" by this very clever fella who was then given a trip to their manufacturing plant to see his hack being made into the redesign of that saw.... wonderful example of the power of the new age of media and a mature approach to manufacturing.... they read the forums, watch KZbin AND respond without any of the ego & bs that non-euro manufacturers carry on with... However, thanks for the quick reply and all hale your terrific contributions to a deadly topic...
@bobkeniston45533 жыл бұрын
Do you have plans for the shroud?
@chuckearp35644 жыл бұрын
Holy crap Fisher ! I'll build one tomorrow! THANKS
@rinogodbout48555 жыл бұрын
Good video and great idea! This is a real problem with miter saws for all.
@DukeLaCrosse205 жыл бұрын
you inspired me. i mounted a small square plastic trash can (12" square x 10" deep) behind my chop saw table. Used a hole-saw to make an opening in the bottom to put the shopvac hose through. Being further back than yours, its not as efficient, but it doesn't interfere with the operation of the saw in any way and probably get about 75% of the dust. It took me 45 minutes to rig up (would be 10 minutes if I did it a second time, its that simple).
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@DukeLaCrosse205 жыл бұрын
after i posted this last night, I found another video where someone had done basically what I did except they used a much larger container (like 24" x 36"). I happened to have one of those and I swapped out my small container for the larger one, didn't cut a hole, just placed the shopvac hose in there, voila, about 90% efficient.
@jeffbavely24165 жыл бұрын
WOW! You think like I do, only better. Will build one as soon as I finish cleaning up my dusty shop. Thanks!
@akinarif77986 жыл бұрын
Wow great idea
@garoglen7 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anything better !
@gb48166 жыл бұрын
Vast improvement , good job.
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Thanks GB!
@k.b.woodworker32506 жыл бұрын
Great solution. My saw is a non-slider, but I'm going to something when I'm done with my current projects. I like the small size. I'm sure those giant tents are great, but in my small basement shop they are way too big. Also, I plan to try using the dust bag over the existing dust port. There was something called the Keen Dust Chuter. The patent was bought by Milescraft and then never made. You could do miter cuts with it.
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my thinking too about how big those tents are. Only bummer with my solution is mitered cuts. Thanks for watching! :)
@ThisTall5 жыл бұрын
I got milescraft to send me a demo Dust Chuter to try but it didn’t work with my Dewalt 780. It needs to be used with a saw that collects its dust upward from inside the blade housing. They said they are hesitant to release it because they can’t find a design that will work with e dry type of saw. But it can be made easily enough with some stretchy fabric and some Velcro and bungee cords
@robertrobinson35975 жыл бұрын
You would have another serious improvement if you make a Zero clearance Throat plate on the table of your saw!
@ricardoarredondo60925 жыл бұрын
Señor, You are a genius!!!! 😉
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
I dunno about that, but thanks. hah
@ricardoarredondo60925 жыл бұрын
Lol. Just like everyone is commenting you should patent your idea my friend!!!!
@chiefwhiteeagle62055 ай бұрын
why dont you use the dust duck hat on the saw at the same time
@FishersShop5 ай бұрын
What do you have against your space bar??
@JakeThompson6 жыл бұрын
Great video man.. pretty smart
@skipbickford39705 жыл бұрын
Would it help to have this section at the bottom of your box so that the draw is going up is inside the hose instead of inside the box
@americanwoodworkingtrickss65437 жыл бұрын
good job.
@larrytraber6 жыл бұрын
One thing you should do is put a screen over the vacuum hole in the shroud so that it doesn't suck up the cedar stuff
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@ward4596 жыл бұрын
Who cares if it sucks up the small cedar parts...it's a shop vac and a cyclone, that's what they do!
@MontclairsLair7 жыл бұрын
Superb! I must make one of these. Thanks for sharing!
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
My miter saw now has a dedicated cyclone separator and shop vac on it using this shroud. It really works wonderfully. But I had to learn to cut differently to get the best results. It seems that, for long cuts, I need to cut a small groove down the cut line before pulling the blade all the way back, dropping, and pushing it forward. This lets the dust travel down the groove right into the shroud. Otherwise, the dust goes everywhere because it's too far away from the shroud's suction. Thanks, Monty!
@randolpharends57554 жыл бұрын
Great idea, I am going to make one as well. However, I will make sure to pull the plug.
@gregorylondos5346 жыл бұрын
That seems to have done the Trick for Your Saw... But it appears to me that even with Black paint on your shroud the material is “OSB” and not “particle board”... LoL Good Work My Woodworking Friend... Greg
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was made from OSB. Did I say particle board in the video? Oops if I did. It was OSB junk.
@djvitornunes7 жыл бұрын
Five stars
@Realtor.Francia6 жыл бұрын
Do you have drawings of the dust hood? Hopefully with dimensions
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
I don't, Jason. Sorry! I made this little dust shroud before I really started filming things for KZbin. I made it on the fly so I just pieced things together until it seemed to work. Honestly, you probably wouldn't want to make it according to dimensions anyway since there may be small variations from saw to saw. Your best bet would be to use cardboard to get the right shape and then trace it onto wood pieces. Best of luck!
@Realtor.Francia6 жыл бұрын
Fisher's Shop thanks for the reply... I actually have the exact same saw as yours
@taranagnew4365 жыл бұрын
put a piece of mesh or something over the dust collector to not suck in pieces of wood
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea. Thanks, Taran
@taranagnew4365 жыл бұрын
@@FishersShop anytime
@johnwareham88757 жыл бұрын
Excellent job on the dust shroud Will be looking into building one 👍
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John!
@subhenduc6 жыл бұрын
Any rough dimensions or sketchup??? for the Dust shroud? I have the same saw
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, this pre-dates my SketchUp days. I literally pulled stuff out of the scrap box, held it up to the fence, and traced it. Lots of trial and error until I got it to fit.
@whoDatBeDare6 жыл бұрын
It's easier to take dimensions from an existing product to make a sketchup file. I'd be interested in it as well.
@sotojaime56494 жыл бұрын
Fisher's Shop I am interested in the complete dust collector system that you have including the Dust Shroud, I have a Small Black & Decker
@evanc94285 жыл бұрын
Nice work. A problem with dust collection with this much static pressure on a mitre saw i that it suck up mall off cuts which can then cause blade and arbour bending kick backs when the piece jams between the fence and the blade. Have you experienced this?
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Nope, not yet thankfully
@GradyElla5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most difficult problems in the shop to solve. Our compound miter saw runs almost as much as the cabinet saw. This is a nice little attachment for straight cuts. Where we differ is that most of our cuts on that machine are in fact, not 90 degree chops, although, there are quite a few of those as well. We have a little homemade chute that just extends the factory chute on the back of the shroud that allows for at least some more dust to direct up into the vac hose, but we also have a box of masks next to the machine and a vac hose with a nozzle ready to clean up afterwards! Anyway, you've done an impressive job both with design as well as with manufacture on this. Nice work.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, if I wasn't doing 90+% straight cuts, then this solution wouldn't be ideal for me. But so far, it's worked out quite nice. I just picked up a new miter saw so I'll try to engineer an even better solution for that one.
@RobertSmith-zn5zc5 жыл бұрын
Great design!
@willwyatt70237 жыл бұрын
VERY impressive. Bookmarking this video with the plan to make one of these myself. Thanks.
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Works real well! Have fun building it!
@TravisWatson5 жыл бұрын
Heya Fisher, old video, but did you ever try the Y adapter suggestion? That idea seems really interesting to me because you can remove the shroud and still get the partial original dust collection during your miters/bevels.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Nah... my solution worked real well and I didn't need to improve it any more. But I don't even have that saw any longer. Gotta come up with something as good for my new one though.
@manit774 жыл бұрын
You need a credit card to cut a line.
@frankherring62535 жыл бұрын
Every little bit helps. I have thinking that a person could use the exhaust of the vac to guide the dust into a suction shroud like yours. Maybe just hook it up to where the suction is supposed to hook to the saw.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea
@jimjohnson57875 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea. I need to make one of these for mine. I bet mocking up one of these with cardboard would help to get the odd shapes dialed in to make one of these.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Precisely what I did. You'll notice that it works better if you change how you cut too. For instance, instead of starting at the front and pushing through the piece you want to start at the back and cut a channel for the dust to go and pull towards you. Using this technique I can get even better dust collection.
@xtraMTpockets7 жыл бұрын
Love it, subscribed #340
@FishersShop7 жыл бұрын
Thank's for subbing, Max! Glad to have you here. :)
@michaelkidwell4965 жыл бұрын
Not being able to cut a miter on a miter saw is a pretty big design flaw.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it a flaw, just a limitation. With as well as it works, I'm happy to have to take it off for the few miters that I cut.
@tommysts19206 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Thanks for sharing
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks Tom!
@jeromyashcraft45715 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Thank you
@dennisfahlstrom74226 жыл бұрын
I think you spent more time improving the dust collection on your miter saw here than the team of “design engineers” who made the saw. I’ve had Hitachi, DeWalt, Porter Cable and all were like yours. A friend has a Ryobi and it’s even worse. It catches NOTHING. The only brand that seems to invest any time in real dust collection on their tools is Festool, but they are crazy overpriced even for professionals. My Grizzly cabinet saw is real bad too. There is a shroud around the blade that catches about .002% of the dust created. The rest seems directed up at my face. I have a big 5 hp cyclone dust collector hooked up to all of them and the only tools that seem to have decent dust collection are my 8” jointer and my big planer. Both create massive amounts of dust.
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it makes me wonder what the designers think their saws are being used for? If the majority of their demographic are contractors that are using their saws outdoors, then I guess it's not a big deal but I think the lion's share of the users are small shop woodworkers that really need good dust collection. Not sure why all of them dropped the ball on this.
@bobm64235 жыл бұрын
Unrelated question, I always se people using air hoses like you showed in this video, or for brad nailers . Are they hooked up to air compressors that just get shut off for the video? I’m totally new to woodworking so please excuse me if it’s a dumb question.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Air compressors only turn on when the tank falls beneath a certain threshold. That means once it's full, you can use it for a while before it turns on and makes all that noise.
@bobm64235 жыл бұрын
Fisher's Shop Thanks. what size compressor would you suggest for a small shop .... maybe for a brad nailer and compressed air hose like you showed? Appreciate your video and am subbed.
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
@@bobm6423 Just a little pancake compressor would be more than enough.
@bobm64235 жыл бұрын
Fisher's Shop ok, thanks . I have a looong way to go in setting up my shop.
@mikemayfield51725 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob Manizza, I have wondered the same thing.
@jobandknock4276 жыл бұрын
What about mitre and bevel cuts? I do a LOT of those
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a different ball game. Currently I don't have anything for miter and bevel cuts since I don't do them all that often. When I do, I have to remove the shroud and spray sawdust everywhere. :( It's a nuisance but for now that's what I gotta do.
@markw35985 жыл бұрын
S O L !!
@Pro1er4 жыл бұрын
What a nice saw! I'm so used to seeing all of the usual suspects, Dewalt, Bosch, Makita, Festool, etc. That is the first time I remember seeing a 12" Craftsman SCMS. Nice!
@jbb54705 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I have not thought about this one but man what a great solution.!!!! I will have to try and make one for my miter saw! Great tip, thanks for posting!
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jb!
@barstad-95916 жыл бұрын
It’s really unfortunate that you didn’t show us how you built your shroud. It’s true that shrouds will vary depending upon the model of saw; however, some guidance would be helpful. And it’s difficult to see how your shroud is made and assembled, because it’s already painted a flat black. Thanks for your efforts and for giving me some fuel for thought.
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Understood. I only put this video together because someone requested a closer look at it. I had already had this built for quite sometime prior to filming it. But I used cardboard first to find the right shapes and then traced them onto plywood.
@stevenash29335 жыл бұрын
I like it but just a thought. Why not rig up a y for the hose and then also use the small opening on the saw as well or leave the bag on as opposed to making the plug
@FishersShop5 жыл бұрын
A Y-adapter will essentially split the suction power in half and I've discovered there's VERY little saw dust that goes up and out that top port. So I just figured one full-power suction location at the bottom would be best. But run some experiments... I could be wrong.
@j-kane59225 жыл бұрын
That exposed insulation drives me nuts... great idea with the shroud
@cjphillips66486 жыл бұрын
can you make those for all miter saw brands? I would like to make one for my saw!
@FishersShop6 жыл бұрын
Of course. You just gotta piece it together so that it fits your saw... that's all I did.