A true generational leap! - Tesla Model 3 2024

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We've covered a LOT of EVs here on ShortCircuit, yet somehow have never covered a Tesla... but that changes today! The newly released Tesla Model 3 2024 -- dubbed the Highland -- has finally arrived, and we've got our hands on one. With a fresh new exterior design and thoughtful interior touches, will Alex finally jump on the Tesla bandwagon?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 I'm not a hater
0:23 The excellent frunk and exterior design
3:25 Interior design and software impressions
7:26 Sponsor - Rocket Money
7:48 The gear selector and lack of stalks
11:45 Driving impressions
16:19 Speaker impressions
17:04 Pricing and overall thoughts
17:57 Outro

[@ShortCircuit]

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[@SumriseHD]

Thank you so much for being so honest about the stalks. I was test driving this thing a few weeks ago and that was literally the only major reason I did not like this car (oh and also bluetooth didn't work with my S21 so that was weird)

[@alexg9727]

Nice promoting a scam

[@Setsunone]

do you have the matrix headlights update? I have the second cersion, in Europe, the lights have become the best I've ever had till now! fully adaptive ABD stopped blinding every bird on the road

[@X862go]

Very slick car 🚗

[@cpttreebeard9112]

Rocket Money sells your data

[@traviscobbs]

I think it's funny that Maria blurred her license plate out in the thumbnail, but the video editors left it in the video.

[@amroallam9302]

I don't think you can get any harmful information from licence plates in canda

[@Joshpods]

that's what linus said when he was upgrading dan's car. So I think it's okay. ​@@amroallam9302

[@EikottXD]

​@@amroallam9302obviously she wanted it blurred though.

[@charlesdoesmore5488]

​@@EikottXDbut the video editors say no.

[@sn0wgleb]

luckily you can't learn anything at all from the license plate number in BC

[@adfjasjhf]

Can we please get Maria opinion about the Tesla experience maybe after a year or so? I'd love to see that from the actual user perspective.

[@justan1ck]

or from anyone who isnt just hating on elon

[@Chipsaru]

@@justan1ck stupid steering wheel decisions does not equal to hating elon, both yoke and buttons for turn signals are stupid and should not pass car safety regulations

[@YankeeMav]

Maria? What are you talking about? Anyway, the main issue is, as ever, *not having an actual sunroof.*

[@SmilesNA]

There is tons of videos..

[@cogspace]

@@YankeeMav Maria is the owner of the car.

[@ColdFinland]

Pretty sure the designers of the new turn signals were poach-hired from BMW.

[@user-wj7sm9bm6p]

More like Ferrari, Ferrari has been doing this for a VERY long time.

[@apekatt2007]

The haptic buttons are really nice! I daily drive this car, and I genuinely hope I never have to go back to stalks again. It took some hours to get used to, but after that it's pretty sweet!

[@kevinq3186]

This among other things were a huge deciding factor for me when cross shopping EV's I ended up getting a Polestar 2 since I still get proper turn signals and wipers along with a gauge cluster and it just plain looks better.

[@HAFBeast91]

"TESLA: WE LOSE TERRIBLE DESIGNS! COME DESIGN SOMETHING AWFUL FOR US, PLEASE, PLEASE!?

[@pipooh1]

@@HAFBeast91 Just because you find it a terrible design, does not mean general public does. They still sell more cars then they can produce with 3 gigafactories.

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

About the wipers - one can start to understand why they are so stupid, because for some brilliant reason they don't have a proper sensor, like all the other cars do.

[@pipooh1]

The only sensors they dont have is lidar etc, which does nothing for rain etc... Helps to inform a little bit before making comments.

[@MrProteinK]

​@@pipooh1Lol. Tesla's rely on the camera for the wipers too rather than using a traditional rain sensor. Helps to inform a little bit before making comments

[@SegginsProductions]

And the frustrating part is that sensor can’t cost them more than five bucks I’m sure.

[@BurritoKingdom]

​​@@pipooh1Tesla removed a bunch of sensors and are relying on AI and software. They removed every sensor that are not cameras and are moving to "Tesla Vision" since 2023. It made self parking and self driving worse. It's why when it gets less than 15km it's not really sure how far away the car is and stops suddenly when before it relied on radar to figure out distance.

[@theElemDragon]

@@BurritoKingdom I'm not sure about you, but the times I used FSD when they had that free month a little while back, or even basic Autopilot, I never experienced any such issues with it getting down to a low speed and then just slamming on the brakes. It's also better for it to stop further back than most people typically would in their car driving themselves, because should something happen behind it, there would be no room to try to evade.

[@ClellBiggs]

Products requiring apps to work needs to stop.

[@gamba3685]

I daily drive a tesla. It does not require the app, the app just makes things simpler. All features listed can be done from inside the car.

[@sigma682]

@@ClellBiggs It’s not required, they come with key cards that fit in your wallet, basically a more convenient car key.

[@tralexium]

I'd rather have it connect to my phone so that I can automatically unlock it as I approach the car & save some room in my back pocket.

[@mr.morales0707]

Yapping without knowing Needs to stop

[@MexicanSniper11]

@@gamba3685they don’t even know what they’re talking about. Probably don’t even own or never driven a Tesla.

[@saturn7835]

So this is what rappers mean when they say car with with no keys

[@csides5635]

“No keys, please update to start.” Lol

[@attckDog]

Why do you need keys? I don't lock or unlock the car it does it automatically as I walk away/walk up. The app has everything accessible. Turning on the Air Con takes one tap after unlocking my phone.

[@migueljoserivera9030]

@@attckDog What if you need to access it after the batery died?

[@Rokegle135]

@@attckDog Break your phone, lose your phone, your phone is stolen??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Phone could also just be dead

[@SmitePlayz_]

@@Rokegle135 keys can be stolen as well, and keys' batteries can also run out.

[@onrec_]

Btw you can pin the seat heating controls to the bottom bar by dragging from the apps menu when it's in customisation mode.

[@careem3463]

Whatever, touchscreen in the car is stupid you can't hit correct button half of the time because there thing is moving

[@MatthewDias]

@@careem3463 imo buttons are just as hard to hit while the car is moving. You can also use voice commands if the touchscreen is too difficult

[@Squeeonline]

​@@MatthewDiasvoice commands are worse.

[@careem3463]

@@MatthewDias each button have a feel to it, you can press them without looking when you get familiar with the car, touchscreen is plain glass you need to pay attention not only to the road but to the screen

[@MatthewDias]

@@Squeeonline I like them ! :)

[@srobart]

This was the most Canadian review ever. I heard "I'm sorrey" like 20 times. Nice job!

[@donaldendsley6199]

I'm 2:12 into the video and I came here to say the same thing. I love it!

[@dasiro]

it's an annoying piece of shit and somehow he didn't wanna drive it of a cliff since it's maria's (both in terms of review and physically). It's lacking normal features and the frunk/bottom trunk compartment are also normal on other vehicles + how annoying could it be for a front passenger to have the rear one adjust your seat? Btw how can a the game fix legroom on longer drives??

[@jessterman21]

haha definitely - I'M SOREY ABOAT THIS KERR

[@thanosob3329]

No matter how good a car is, I don't accept manufacturers imposing unbelievably stupid decisions on car controls in the name of progress. Just admit it's cost cutting in most cases or just poor decisions. And the worst part? Despite ALL of the negative feedback from consumers and journalists, more automakers follow. Is this some kind of joke?

[@pipooh1]

Yet most people complain about them, never driven the cars... People need to get out of the "i do not like change" mindset. Technology will go forwards if you want it or not. People also hated touchscreens on phones when they first released, now everyone owns one and can not live without it.

[@Shadowninja1200]

@@pipooh1 "People also hated touchscreens on phones when they first released, now everyone owns one and can not live without it." Yes because those touchscreen were legit awful to use at the time. Do you remember what touchscreens used to be like before the iphone came out? There's a reason why apple blew everyone's mind at the time because no one wanted touchscreens because the majority of them were awful. "Yet most people complain about them, never driven the cars... People need to get out of the "i do not like change" mindset. Technology will go forwards if you want it or not." I know how I like my cars. I'm very critical of things if it irks me. User experience is in my top 3 beside safety and reliability. Saying technology is going forward does not excuse bad design (it's also a common defense by weird elon fans to excuse anything he does). I don't mind change if it actually helps me but I do mind it if it hinders me. Putting the gear change on the screen or ceiling doesn't fucking help me. Having a terrible auto wiper system doesn't fucking help. I'm sorry but it's not a good look for "progress" if my 12k car looks like a better option than a tesla from a user experience perspective.

[@A2KLAU]

VW are one that listened. They have returned their steering wheels in Europe back to physical buttons instead of the touch sensitive type due to feedback, so customer centric feedback can affect product development in an organisation that has a culture of listening to their customers rather than their CEO 😅

[@OPM_Viking]

Apple?

[@pipooh1]

@Shadowninja1200 the gear shifter is rarely needed because it does it automatically, it knows where you are going and your surroundings and auto set it for you once you want to move. For the auto wipers, yes, they are not the best, but you also can easily control them on the steering wheel with the scroll wheel and no need to go into the screen menu. Seem most reviewers just get in the car and drive. While most stuff they complain about is fixed by the time they release the video or they do not care to read the manual to understand the functions. This is why I rarely care about review videos and more about owner experience.

[@ryandowd40]

The auto wipers is as crap on the old model 3 as well! Never use it as it’s totally unusable

[@Pyriold]

It has gotten better with last update, but still not good. Still, it gave me hopes.

[@ASTZDomidragon]

our one works very well. not much worse then our old Model S from 2015

[@CombatSport777]

I get that Tesla is devoting most of its efforts towards FSD right now but come on Tesla, it would be better to just not offer auto wipers than fir people to expect this system to be improved at some point and be disappointed.

[@ASTZDomidragon]

@@CombatSport777 it is almost perfect now since the last update. Barely have to press manually now

[@JPEight]

They're better than they used to be, mostly because you couldn't use cruise control with them turned off, but now you can. It does however turn them back on every time you cancel and re-engage cruise control, which annoys me no end. I understand that you need the cameras to be clear of water so that the adaptive cruise control can work... but I hat that too, always slowing down for no reason. Just give me an option dumb cruise control, I don't need any nanny hand holding, if I crash into the back of someone then so be it, but I've managed the last decade of driving other cars just fine so think I'll manage just fine... In the last update they allowed scrolling the thumb wheel to change wipe mode, which is great, but they also made it worse by having each press of the wiper stalk change mode, so to go from intermittant wipe to off without removing my hand from the wheel, I have to press the stalk which makes the wipers faster before I can scroll to turn them off. So dumb. So backwards.

[@Glenners]

Please do a special episode on the LED headlight epidemic. SO BRIGHT. Roads aren'ts level, aiming them doesn't matter, they need to be less bright and less white.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

It's been an issue for a long time, not necessarily related to LED. Some years back, before any car had LED headlights I noticed that more and more of the cars I met at night were blinding even on low beam. One night I met a car that flooded the road with intense light so bright I couldn't see anything. Pissed off I flashed the headlights to signal him to switch to low beam. Well he flashed me back. It turned out that he had been using his cars version of low beam. I had to break and park at the curb waiting for my eyes to recover. This was just halogen lights but bad enough to be dangerous and the low beam was certainly not shielded to keep from blinding meeting traffic. Now properly designed headlights will not blind the meeting traffic when you use low beam. High beam is another matter. It will be disastrous for anyone you meet in the night, so make sure to always go to low beam when meeting a car. And do adjust your cars headlights wo low beam doesn't blind people. Sure it you can't see as far along the road that way, but at least you don't have to risk crashing head on with a driver that can't see.

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

THe problems is with color temperature. Lights from 2700k (old halogen) up to 4000-4500k (some LED, even third-party) are OK. Whenever you go above 5000k, even 6500k, the light becomes unbearable.

[@shiba7651]

Please do! Blinding lights should be illegal, and most EV owners don't travel dark roads anyways

[@ZaHandle]

Nah it's the fact they're so direct As in, when you're out of view it's not visible, but when you are it's blinding

[@DavidLeeKersey]

Oh I 100% think that the lack of the turn signal stalk was an Elon decision. Anything to cut parts count and increase profit margin.

[@ashmakes21]

or a bmw decision

[@MyAirMyles]

Was clearly a bmw drivers decision.

[@wow-sham1300]

I mean he does have a quote “The best part is no part. The best process is no process. It weighs nothing. Costs nothing. Can’t go wrong.” And I does make sense in the mind of Elon, in the future cars will be fully driven or assisted with FSD or equivalents, so why would you need to make more inputs to complicate things. Though we’re are not at the level right now maybe in 2026/27

[@jeremywp123]

It definitely does not help profit margins. If you think a 1¢ piece of plastic is what they're worried about, you're wrong. Its most likely they just thought it looks futuristic to not have anything sticking out.

[@arkhikun]

@@wow-sham1300With the way current FSD is equipped it won't be safe in 2050

[@BlooshTV]

what about long circuit

[@achaz_]

And why not short racetrack

[@skys12fu]

Lá ele

[@dzikoo]

No indicator stalk makes it useless in UK. We need to indicate leaving the roundabout and it is pretty dangerous having to look for indicator button every time .

[@johnellis9281]

I've been driving a model x for a bit over 2 years with the same turn signals. It's definitely worse than a stalk but you get used to it within a week. The horn button however is super dumb and way too sensitive, I've honked so many times when reversing out of parking spots.

[@scrozzy]

Stalks are better, I agree. But the hyperbole around "dangerous" is just silly. I drive a manual with 6 gears, and I regular manage the cordination of hand and foot without looking, and no one has died because of it, and nor is called dangerous.

[@dzikoo]

@@scrozzy but your stick stays where you left it and does not move to the other side of you seat being upside down? Right?

[@scrozzy]

@@dzikoo the stick changes position because of the stick's throw, and I need to know where it was previously relative to where I want it to go. The buttons change location too, but the one pointing to the outside of the wheel is left, and the one pointing towards the middle is right. I also mastered this with the skipping tracks buttons.

[@ZaHandle]

@@scrozzyPhysical shifter is easier to locate than 2 plastic buttons

[@MijoMontego]

You can open the trunk by standing next to it while your phone is in your pocket. It's a setting you need to toggle on. You can also move the seat heating/cooling shortcuts down on the dock. (Source: I have a 24 M3LR and it works on mine)

[@harwil32]

Opening the trunk whenever you walk by it sounds like the worst thing ever to me.

[@Nathan-nj5wd]

Correct me if I'm wrong but he said that he didn't have that update on the car

[@MijoMontego]

@@harwil32 it gives you a three-chirp warning before it does. I’ve walked by my trunk a ton of times and never had it open unintentionally. Note: you have to be somewhat close also. It won’t trigger say you’re 5 feet away. It’s more designed for moments you have your hands full.

[@kzed]

@@harwil32 it uses UWB so its ultra precise and you have to stand for a while for it to open

[@echoztrip]

It only works with iOS currently, not Android :(

[@dafrandle]

turn signal thing is such a deal breaker for me I wouldn't take the car if you paid me to take it.

[@goncaloduarte4683]

Teslas seem so good for the price, but they will have ridiculous overeneinered Bulshit that requires, no turn signals, touch screen for everything INCLUDING CHANGING GEARS, opening the frunk with an app and no car key. The worst part is that these are things that require more work to do from an engeneer perspective, it's not the lack of personal capabilities that make them worse, it's just stupid leadership decisions and that's so frustrating.

[@oliverp7375]

@@goncaloduarte4683 1: There are no gears in a Tesla 2: You can open the frunk from inside the car without the app 3: No car key is an amazing thing as its one less thing to forget and you can buy a car key if you want The no stalks thing is quite easy to get used to and imo its pretty intuitive once you get the hang of it

[@GoodGamer3000]

Nah, free car? They're paying me? I'd take the car lol... But I ain't paying for that. Stupid design.

[@blewis42002]

Honestly I test drove it for a little while and had no issue with it. It just takes getting used to for some people.

[@Michael-zf1ko]

@@goncaloduarte4683 "The worst part is that these are things that require more work to do from an engeneer perspective, it's not the lack of personal capabilities that make them worse, it's just stupid leadership decisions and that's so frustrating." Eh, that part is not necessarily true from what I've heard. They do this BECAUSE it is cheaper. It's more expensive to engineer, manufacture, and wire all the buttons, switches and levers to construct a vehicle interior that makes sense. It's actually cheaper just to slap a tablet in it and do everything in software instead.

[@TheEnigmaBlade]

You can customize the bottom bar of the main screen by pressing and holding on an icon. You can then drag-and-drop the heated seat button back into the bar.

[@2022spacekw]

the engineer: what signal? who the f using turn signals??

[@attckDog]

I mean tbf if your in auto pilot it does them for you so there is that

[@firexgodx980]

The turn signal buttons are easy if you're a gamer.

[@2022spacekw]

@@firexgodx980 i'm a gamer, i need a panic roll button🤣

[@JadedGeode]

Probably former BMW engineer

[@2022spacekw]

@@JadedGeode this one got me

[@mini_soap]

For the auto trunk opening, I believe you need an iPhone with UWB. Also, remember that Tesla normally does not supply a charger cable (you can buy it at order time).

[@darealbriznady]

The headlights have the capability to aim around oncoming cars, but for some reason it's illegal in the US. Don't know about canada's laws.

[@starvin-marvin-the-martian]

It's no longer illegal in the US.

[@blewis42002]

@@starvin-marvin-the-martiancorrect, and Tesla recently rolled out adaptive headlights in the US, but im not sure about Canada’s laws

[@theElemDragon]

@@blewis42002 technically I believe their legality is still a gray area in the US. The NHTSA has updated vehicle code wording to make them legal, but I don't believe that has taken effect yet, and IIRC, I read an article about how they must respond to an oncoming car within a certain amount of time, which Tesla's are just off the mark on. But no, no car in the US currently has adaptive headlights (aiming around corners isn't "adaptive headlights"... it's just cornering headlights).

[@kornkernel2232]

That's what I thought, surely Tesla has been doing auto aiming headlights for years already. This is something they would've done already. So, I guess must be some kind of stupid law somehow.

[@theElemDragon]

@@kornkernel2232 Yeah, I forget how it used to be worded in the vehicle code, but here in the US, I believe it basically said that headlights could not automatically adjust themselves and needed to be aimed at a fixed point. It's been quite some time since i looked at it, but headlight laws in the US basically haven't changed since like the 50's or 60's or something like that. Maybe in Europe they've had adaptive headlights working on Tesla's for years.... but I dunno.

[@ImSaebr]

Fun fact! You can pin some climate controls to the bottom hot bar by holding it down and moving it to the hot bar like an app on a phone.

[@graefx]

This is a great example of reinventing the wheel or change for the sake of change. I get advancements for user convenience and theres a slight acclimation period, but these are just chasing some scifi fiction notion of technology rather than improving the user experience. I know id forget the key-card and guess im sol if my phone goes dead. The turn signals is a great example of "this sounds great out loud but should have been immediately rejected if it was ever actually tested."

[@jubuttib]

The sad thing about the turn signals is that they're not the first ones to do this... Thankfully in the past it was limited to Ferraris etc.

[@MikeKrasnenkov]

they are not chasing anything but the cheapest costs

[@lester9230]

If you forget keys often then the app should be perfect for you, and there is an official key fob in the online shop

[@jubuttib]

@@lester9230 Just out of curiosity, is there a mechanical backup system to open the door? I mean there's already an example of a dude not being able to open the frunk on their CyberTruck, because there's no mechanical backup anywhere, and the power system was fukt beyond repair. They had to cut out a part of the bumper to get it open. Would hate for that to happen with the doors.

[@aerostorm_]

@@jubuttib The front driver and passenger doors have a mechanical release as a pull lever in the nook of the arm rest. For people not used to it you can sometimes mistake it for the door handle. Its not recommended to be used normally because it will not power the window to unseat itself from the door frame before opening though, which could (at the extreme) possibly cause window damage as the door opens.

[@sabretoothau]

2019 Model 3 owner here. I appreciate the impartiality. The review brought up my two biggest criticisms - the completely fucking braindead automatic wipers (which is an issue on mine too), and the similarly braindead lack of indicator stalks. The latter's a dealbreaker.

[@firexgodx980]

If you're a gamer, the turn signal buttons are super easy and intuitive. Just go for a test drive.

[@PhysicsGamer]

@@firexgodx980 The person you commented that to literally mentioned owning one

[@firexgodx980]

@@PhysicsGamer 2019 models have stalks. Only newer Teslas don't have stalks

[@ASTZDomidragon]

I love the turn buttons more then the stucks after 1000km.

[@planeman301]

1:50 There is also a key fob that you can buy, though it is pretty expensive

[@MrProteinK]

I lost an Audi key fob once. They wanted $500. The Tesla one doesn't seem so bad.

[@azimmer328gaming8]

Way cheaper than the fob for my last car

[@Varangian_af_Scaniae]

"MODEL 3/Y KEY FOB $175" from Tesla's site It's not expensive. I lost a key to a Renault Clio like 20 years ago and I had to pay $70. With how much the value of a dollar has plummeted over the last 20 years 175 is almost a steal, almost😆

[@attckDog]

Why would they do that and avoid a few minutes of blind hate for tesla

[@azimmer328gaming8]

@@attckDog I don’t think it’s blind hate what so ever I own this car and it coming with a fob would have been a better decision

[@JVGaming]

Regarding the heated seats you can put the icon on the bottom bar an keep it there permanently.

[@cinestyleinc6159]

The way Canadians say Sorry sound like my kid every time he breaks one of his electronics and I have to fix it.

[@tsbrownie]

I had a chance a few month ago to check out BYD's Seal, Atto3, and Dolphin. The Seal is like a Mercedes, but EV. Very nice. Lots of room. The high end accelerates like a rocket. The Atto3 is like a smaller SUV. Higher clearance, bigger inside. Good performance. The Dolphin is similar to the Atto3, but smaller. Also very good acceleration. The large trunk has 3 levels (and I swear the bottom one is below ground level! ;) The high end Seal had a range of 690 km, the Atto3 was 490(?), and the high end Dolphin was 490. The prices were "affordable" as in 1/3rd a tesla. If they start importing to the US (and they are setting up a plant in Mexico to get around import restrictions), tesla is toast. Oh, and Warren Buffett is a big share holder, so the quality / future one can pretty much count on their business abilities.

[@mlsasd6494]

pretty sure buffet sold again already, but might be wrong. Also, comparing china prices to US prices makes no sense, in germany they cost more than double what they cost in china.

[@Sullivan433]

6:58 it's totally posible by dragging those icons from the menu to the bottom bar. Then they will be there all the time C: kzbin.infoNzFb_tVdTps

[@te86a]

Still doesnt change the fact that its a really bad design choice

[@Sullivan433]

I like it. Almost a year with a Model 3 and haven't feel I need fixed ac controls. So I guess it depends haha

[@danvarughese]

@@te86a they have updated the climate panel. this video doesnt show that update

[@SirDragonClaw]

​@te86a It's actually amazing, best of the 30 cars I have driven.

[@te86a]

@@SirDragonClaw own one. They’re good cars but they have a ton of stupid design choices.

[@azil7652]

The wipers are bad, you are right. But to manually control the speed you DO NOT have to touch the screen. Once you press the button the steering wheel, you can use the scroll button the change the speed between off, auto, 1, 2, 3, 4.

[@JPEight]

Yes, but it still sucks. Auto should be after 4, and pressing the stalk once should not change the speed. It used to just do a single wipe regardless of whether the wipers were on or off which was great for when you were in light rain and had intermittant, but get sprayed by a truck or puddle. Now if I want to go from slow to off, it goes faster when you press the stalk, hesitates for a moment during which the thumb wheel does nothing, and then finally lets you turn them off.

[@shinaikouka]

Alex, the auto-trunk feature has to be turned on in the car’s settings before it will work. Also, you will want to make sure your phone has been setup as an enhanced key with the car (i.e., uses UWB). Both are required for the auto-trunk to work.

[@obraik]

A few things, you can add the seat heater icons to the bottom row, along with the defrost options for easy access. The auto-open boot requires an iPhone with UWB (presumably an Android equivalent soon) The headlights are hampered in North America by legislation. Here in Oceania and in Europe, the headlights have adaptive/matrix headlight capabilities where it turns off portions of the headlight to mask the oncoming car

[@ProXcaliber]

I'm so jealous of the adaptive/matrix headlights updates you guys got over there, I am still anxiously awaiting that update to come to NA.

[@stijnd5268]

I was early enough to see the bots

[@yanivb500]

Actually about the seat heating you can put custom buttons on the bottom row and there is an option to add left or right seat heating as a shortcut, and about the turn signals there is also an option to automatically disable your turn signal if you are switching lanes or turning (it can decide what you are doing based on your surroundings), and you can also disable that in the settings

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

I'm still missing the gear selector stalk behind the steering wheel, let alone a standard turn signal. Maybe the solution would be to glue a transparent dot to one of the buttons, or gouge one of them so there's a texture difference. Of course shouldn't be necessary, but still.

[@AyyyGabagool]

How the hell did they get away with the rear light housings going up with the trunk? US regulation for DECADES has demanded that your rear lights must stay fixed when the trunk opens as a legitimate safety precaution.

[@ProXcaliber]

Because if you notice, it has lights that are lower down on the bumper. When the trunk opens, the lights on the bumper come on and act as your tail lights, hazard lights, as well as your reversing lights. There are other videos that go over this and show it actually functioning a lot better.

[@imaadh]

Tesla literally uses Google Maps data lol

[@krizus16]

google must be filtering some of the data. searching with the tesla console often does not return the same result as the google app. Might be for other reasons though, but I find google maps returns more POI, the app is more intuitive and has useful navigation feature. I have no idea why tesla cannot propose more than one path to a destination.

[@imaadh]

@@krizus16 mine proposes multiple routes? Might have been the recent-ish update that added trip progress. They also added business hours to warn you if a POI will be closed by your arrival, etc. It's definitely much closer to parity than ever before.

[@devon6039]

That's interesting. However, there's often quirks with software development. I won't get, "too into the weeds," but there are nearly always multiple versions of how to access the API with a library you download. These packages can modify the behavior of the application and even nullify entire features.

[@corey7219]

​@@imaadhAfter it auto selects 1 route after 5 seconds, you can't choose another route. Annoying

[@imaadh]

@@corey7219 that's not true. If you expand the direction list at any point, it shows the alternate routes you can click on. I literally just tried it.

[@JamieHarveyJr]

I gotta say, not having keys in my pocket for the last 4 years has been amazing. With my phone in my pocket, just walk up to the car and get in and drive. Walk away, it locks. Eff having keys.

[@jameshenderson1598]

wow ok MAN, you signed up for neuralink yet MAN? oh oh oh wait, i bet you dont have a wallet YOU GOTS AN IPHONE....MANNNNNN. lmfaooooooo Tryna be a hipster after theys already dead. Your not ok....

[@reykoranteng9089]

Keyless entry is on like 95% of new cars... Everyone prefers something else, but keep your mind open :D

[@TechboyUK]

​​@@reykoranteng9089but you have to have keys with you (and replace the battery in them) - not with a Tesla.

[@fabiandrinksmilk6205]

If you don't like this, you can still buy a key fob from Tesla that works wirelessly and has buttons for the trunk, frunk and locking.

[@Pyriold]

@@TechboyUK The key card works fine in case your phone died, it's really a non issue.

[@jpnw3272]

Auto wiper adjustment can been done on the right dial/ball on the steering wheel. Set it up first. New update is pretty cool. Up and down once you hit the button or stalks in older version. It’s much easier than hitting it on the screen.

[@AnExPor]

Thank you for mentioning the headlights! I find even the daytime running lights to be blinding during the day. Especially on the Y

[@erdrickk]

use the left scroll wheel to select the wipers, you dont have to use the touch screen.

[@_clemens_]

But also that is quite annoying I have to say as a highland driver. As it also auto increases when pressing the wiper button, you need to go down twice to reduce and often confirm the current setting by looking on the screen. I miss my stalk for wipers more than for the indicators. For the indicators I added an extra turn right button at the bottom of my steering wheel for roundabouts (living in Europe). With that, I'm quite ok with it. next to that...phantom braking with autopilot on normal roads when trucks are crossing in the other direction.

[@erdrickk]

@@_clemens_ is Phantom breaking STILL a thing??? I have a 2021 M3 Performance and the last year or so, I haven't had one incident, I figured it was solved via software updates. When I first bought the car new, it was insane, I couldn't risk using AP due to brake checking a truck on the highway doing 120.

[@_clemens_]

@@erdrickk on a highway don't know I don't do a lot of highways. But on normal roads when big trucks pass, it sometimes brakes afterwards...very annoying. Afaik not every M3 Highland has this, but mine does.

[@nathanddrews]

How did drive that car though the Stargate to Chulak?

[@Firecul]

😂

[@patrickoconnor5494]

2:15 - you need a phone with Ultra Wide Band UWB Radio to get the trunk to open when you stand there.

[@joaofernandes7812]

Good video, just to note that opposed to what was said, you can drag and drop the seat controls or extra AC controls to the bar to be always accessible, and the wipers do not need to be controlled from the screen, after touching the wiper button, the scroll wheel will change their speed controls

[@MatthewDias]

@6:51 FYI menu bar is relatively customizable and you can add heated seat buttons to it.

[@patrikmedia]

was about to say that, surprised Alex (or the owner) didn't realize that out before doing the review.

[@lester9230]

@@patrikmedia Also somehow missed most of the app functionality

[@nguyenhanh9479]

@@patrikmedia He is a hater, or trying to get viewed, the whole Linus group somehow doesn't like innovations anymore. That's why maybe I don't watch the main channel anymore.

[@patrikmedia]

@@nguyenhanh9479 if you watched the video you would realize that Alex actually gave high praises to this new Model 3. doesn't seem to be a hater in the slightest. calling out missing stock and drive selection to be a PITA is a valid point and as an owner myself I can relate.

[@nguyenhanh9479]

@@patrikmedia I noticed he uses the phrase "works shockingly well" like he thought Tesla software is behind f*cking Toyota or something lmao.

[@Dumdadum76]

6:54 Tesla got you there, the button bar is customizable. So np adding a button for heated seats 😅

[@oliverp7375]

Just to add. In the new update it will automatically switch drive modes when you hit the brake and turn the steering wheel

[@Bueno226]

You can put the heated seats in your "hot bar". When you open the apps (three dots) you'll see the climate stuff on top of the screen and apps on the bottom. Just drag and hold the heated seats to the bottom of the screen and you can place it right next to the climate.

[@jaredho7676]

Honestly this car seems amazing if not for the turn signal stuff. It makes me think that maybe they took the steer wheel buttons from the cyber truck but forgetting that car is steering by wire, so you don’t have that awkward moments of trying to signal while doing hand over hand.

[@BoDoesStuff]

The turn signal buttons take a few days to get used to and then it’s not noticeable at all. On the CT, having steer by wire makes it way more convenient too as the wheel is never rotated more than 170deg.

[@Darthozzan13]

@@BoDoesStuff Guessing you live somewhere without a lot of roundabouts?

[@theElemDragon]

@@Darthozzan13 .... think about it for a second. If you can't quite grasp the thought of which button is for a left turn and which button is for a right turn just because the wheel isn't anywhere close to dead center, I think the problem lies with you, not the car. And I don't live where there are a lot of roundabouts (only 2 I occasionally use), but even in my Model Y, I don't feel like i'm ever actively driving somewhere, even on the roundabout, and have to turn my wheel anywhere close to 180 degrees, unless making an actual left or right turn.

[@blasiankxng]

​@@Darthozzan13what roundabout would make using these turn signals difficult 😂 I agree with the parking lot scenario described in the video but in a roundabout, it should be significantly easier to handle

[@jaredho7676]

@@BoDoesStuffYea, I don’t think i would inherently mind pressing buttons for the turn signal, it’s just the specific edge case scenario at 8:29 that makes me feel like they didn’t fully think out the full removal of stocks for this car, which probably wouldn’t be a problem if it did have SbW

[@BrianBull]

6:13 I am 99% sure it uses Google maps as its base map layer.

[@kebabgud]

No it 100% is Google maps with a Tesla addon. what a weird thing to say

[@Blotsi]

it uses google earth images in the background but the navigation algorithms are not google

[@NormanGaming196]

@@kebabgud Yeah agreed, was looking for this comment

[@themiltonguy4530]

@8:45 hopefully you've just signalled before being in the intersection with your wheel cranked. Drive safe everyone!

[@blueridgeocean]

This is so much better than that bathwater keyboard kit thing. Goodjob

[@thelegend-e7919]

The indicator is a deal breaker for me, I live in Ireland where I navigate multiple roundabouts every day. Here we indicate to enter and exit a roundabout which is just laughable in this model 3. Shame because in spite of so many issues I have with that company, their cars and especially their leadership, it’s still fantastic value for money and I was going to begrudgingly get one next year. The search continues.

[@MegaRad666]

Signaling for a roundabout is wild. But I've also seen roundabouts with traffic lights in UK/AUS. NA roundabouts are rarely put in places with pedestrian traffic, and I figure that'd be the only reason for a light. I speculate that Tesla's reasoning for this is that FSD will automate indicating, so why bother with the stalk?

[@miklschmidt]

Denmark, just as many (if not more) roundabouts. Took me a day or two to get used to, i have no problems with it now. I even switch back and forth regularly between this and a Model Y with stalks and i don't even think about it anymore. It's just one of those things.

[@BoDoesStuff]

@@miklschmidtyeah, people seem to be getting emotional about the buttons. It’s not noticeable after you get used to it within the first day or two.

[@Noah-vi8zb]

I daily drove with the buttons for turn signals here in Sweden and I do drive in roundabouts. Some roundabouts are a bit finicky to press the turn signal but overall it works fine. I believe S3XY buttons are developing or has now released aftermarket stalks and I have also seen solutions where you put S3XY button buttons on the steering column that control the turn signals.

[@DJackx]

Seatheater shortcut is possible, auto wipers and matrix headlights are much better in the lastest update. After 3 weeks I don’t mind the lack of blinker stocks anymore

[@0berholzer]

Small thing to correct, you can put heated seats on the toolbar, but it would be better if it‘s the default. (Atleast on my pre refresh model 3)

[@OddJobEntertainment]

I'm glad they showed at least one probably two bodies fit in the trunk. That's a very important metric.

[@cosmicghost352]

btw you can get some climate controls to stay at the bottom of the screen like the seat heaters, its in the app tray, you just have to hold and drag it i believe you can turn off the turn signal auto-stopping in the settings somewhere (still doesnt excuse the buttons)

[@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff]

I see this come up a lot but honestly I don't think it's a good defence, 90% of the customers who buy it will probably get used to the out-of-the-box experience rather than figuring out how to customise their car to suit their needs. I feel the climate controls should be pinned at the bottom by default, so those who DO tinker with their car can just remove it if they so wish.

[@cosmicghost352]

@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff yeah that's fair. When I got mine I immediately tickered with all the settings but I do that with any new phone as well so I think it's just me

[@ouroesa]

Let me make sure to spell it out for manufacturers. Stalks and buttons are like quick-launch links. Let me interface with the things I use most often with physical controls, that way, I can do it without looking. Lights, indicators, wipers, gear selector - buttons. Radio controls, and climate controls - do a long touch screen (prefer buttons) below the panel which can switch between and control those with hybrid up/down button controls.

[@Steinegal]

Got used to the indicator buttons after like 20 roundabouts (the absolute worst scenario for them), but really wish they added tactile dots like he suggested in the video. As for gear selector the swiping works way better than the buttons I had in a rental Hyundai recently😅

[@nanaoftheyaw]

1. The trunk auto open only works on iphones right now 2. You can add up to 6 climate controls you like to the bottom to be visible at all times 3. You can use the wiper button then scroll on the right scroll wheel to change the wipe mode 4. The 0-60 speeds are slower than the older rwd model 3s

[@Pr00ch]

Do you reckon Tesla's engineers (outside of whoever is in charge of the engine and battery) are not very good, or are they just trying too hard to reinvent the wheel?

[@user56]

you know, the indicator buttons aren't that bad when you consider that tesla drivers usually don't indicate...

[@Duckferd]

I'm surprised that if Tesla (Elon) has such a weird need to run everything off apps and a screen UI, that they don't just have an API... it's not like they seem overly concerned about security. How about an open API so people can add their connected devices like I dunno... a aftermarket gearshift lever so they don't have to go through the dumb menus to go forward and backwards? Or a turn signal stalk...

[@MrProteinK]

Everyone is running stuff on screens because it is cheaper than manufacturing buttons and stalks and other mechanical bits. I could be wrong, but I believe they do have APIs for some things. I know there's stuff on GitHub

[@BoDoesStuff]

There are aftermarket buttons that work through the OBD.

[@aerostorm_]

There is an API and there are third party products that hook into the wiring harness to interface with the CAN bus. SEXY Buttons is a general example that a good number of people use. Also pretty sure there are people working on a stalk retrofit using some similar things that you can install yourself. Most of Tesla's interiors use clips to mount things so its pretty easy to tear down and replace.

[@theElemDragon]

@@aerostorm_ Yeah, they already have a set of aftermarket stalks you can buy to put into a 2024 Model 3. But I loathe how it looks.

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

I take it you have not heard of S3XY Buttons by Enhance. Check em out, you can set couple of them for turn signals. And much more stuff too.

[@Jaw0lf]

I have one of the Highland Model 3 RWD in the UK. I absolutely love it and have found the buttons far easier to use and it stops the indicator stalk disco mode that I often contended with. Trying an older Model 3 with a stalk was far more difficult. I do agree with the auto wipers issue though. Not bad but not great. I have found it super smooth, quiet and efficient. The phone connection makes it so easy as no need to do anything other than have your phone with you. Walk up to door, open it, get in, close door and put foot on brake to start car. Automatically sets reverse and you go. The boot opening update works well again with phone in pocket it works well 3 beeps and it is opening. Also the latest updates to the headlights they are now blocking zones out and it works very well. I want you to test out the new self driving as it looks very impressive now on the latest software.

[@timstreeter9795]

In the latest update the wipers are a lot better and when you press the wipe button it increases the auto wipe sensitivity. It is winter here (NZ) and I have just discovered there is an auto window defogger and auto seat/steering warming with my scheduled departure time. Also I think in NZ we had a different damper/suspension setup than US/Canada (now 2) model 3’s never had such a harsh ride.

[@marius883]

16:30 RWD does not have a sub, just 7 speakers up front (3 in the dash, and 8" woofers and a tweeter in the doors) and just 2 speakers in the rear doors. It does sound pretty damn good though for a base system!

[@Chb1812]

In UK RWD has single sub, and long range has two subs

[@NoKi1119]

As much as people might dislike Tesla, we have to give it to them for providing a reason to most consumer car manufacturers to step up their cruise control game - only after 2014 did we notice an improvement with the features Tesla unveiled. Also a good facelift & overall features. Unfortunately that came with the cost of the "BIG SCREEN, NO BUTTONS" revolution, so eh...

[@jubuttib]

Eh I dunno, Mercedes was pushing for more advanced adaptive cruise control stuff for a decade before Tesla came out with theirs... I guess they made it even more of a thing, but the industry was going to move that way even without them.

[@anonym3017]

@@jubuttib nah mate. the industry was going to move that way on the top end cars. trhe cheaper ones weren't going to get it for a long time cause it's a great feature to get someone to buy a more expensive car. same way the industry still keeps options locked to a minimum engine trim or model

[@jubuttib]

@@anonym3017 I don't quite agree, almost anything with safety implications like that (lane assist, matching speeds with people ahead, stopping if detecting someone in front, etc.) tend to be the one thing that really trickles down to cheaper cars effectively, especially as EuroNCAP starts giving points for such features. Tesla Model S was not a cheap car either, it was and still is luxury priced, significantly more expensive (here at least) than E-series Mercs and 5-series BMWs, and the price competitive Model 3 only came out in 2017. Checking used cars available in my country now, I can find for example a Toyota Auris from 2007 that had adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, collision warnings and blind spot warnings. I can find Citroëns with full speed range adaptive cruise control (including stop & go) and lane assist from years before the Model 3 came out. I think the industry was moving that way anyway even in cheaper cars, and looking back now I'm not entirely sure if Tesla really even made much of a dent in the plans...

[@FACTOTUM_55]

As a bolt driver that doesn't want an SUV , I'm glad there's still although limited selection of reasonably priced EV sedans.

[@GooopGoooop]

Hey Alex, just wanted to say you did a really awesome job on this review - your confidence has come a long a way!

[@CDYTW]

14:12 ugh so true. Even as a pedestrian, you get blinded on the side of the road

[@pipooh1]

It's fixed months ago with new update. Seem they made this video a long while ago.

[@CDYTW]

@@pipooh1 it’s awesome that they recognized the problem, but based on personal experience, lots of drivers aren’t updating their cars.

[@pipooh1]

@CDYTW people don't need to update the car. It does it over the air when it is parked at home. This is where tesla is once again ahead too with ease of use.

[@PhysicsGamer]

@@pipooh1 So... in other words it's not actually fixed? Because that's the alternative.

[@reximperatur1146]

@@pipooh1 It doesn't work like that. You can choose to update or not to update your car.

[@karleverett3507]

I would love it if you added in a EQ tuning section into the reviews. Use all your fancy equipment to test and set the stereo EQ to see how good it could be.

[@leyterispap6775]

Trying to hit the exact spot on a screen while on bumpy road is the most significant factor making me never considering cars without buttons for basic functions .

[@TravisKmeow]

I would love to see Alex put the driver's seat in the driving position for himself, then move to the back seat and see if he can fit behind himself. It's a handy test to see if four adults can ride in the car comfortably and it's way more handy than reading the manufacturers info about leg room or rear seat space

[@beebs4881]

Alex: How did they get so much room in the trunk?? Tesla: You know if we leave out the spare tire we can call it a secret storage compartment and charge extra for it.

[@SpenserFL]

IDK seems like a better solution to me. If the spare is that important to you, you can just put one in the trunk. If not, and you're staying in/around a city then you have extra space.

[@Consumer11]

Not just Tesla that doesn’t include a spare wheel, many major car makers also

[@julianorossi2450]

Can you point any major Model 3/Y competitor that has a spare tire? Seriously.

[@anonym3017]

and now lets look at any other limousine/crossover on the market. And would you look at that. nopne of them have spares either.

[@austincodes]

Pretty sure the button stupidity was Elons idea 💡

[@krizus16]

I believe there is no subwoofer in the rear wheel drive. However the bass is still pretty good.

[@Gutztv07]

Gets pulled over by Officer.. why don’t you use your blinker. See sir my steering wheel is stuck all the way to the left, I don’t which button is the turn signal

[@nikolaijust3002]

welp, that turn signal thing is one way to ruin a car

[@teddymasters1347]

Yeah. I would consider a tesla, but those turn signals are a deal breaker for me I think.

[@cooper1794]

@@teddymasters1347 That, and the moronic shifting mechanism has actually gotten people killed.

[@Noah-vi8zb]

Takes a little to get used to but now I prefer them over normal stalks. There are aftermarket stalks it development by S3XY buttons.

[@Pyriold]

@@teddymasters1347 They are usually worse than stalks, take some time to get used to but for me at least the importance of this "flaw" is not that big.

[@ReedsRedactions]

8:50 - Tell us how you really feel, Alex.

[@ImpureResurrection]

Nice to know I can stuff a body inside and have room for the shovel, boots, tarp and a case of beers.

[@hk07666]

As much as I would hate not having keys, the lack of them would greatly improve security. Those remote keys all seem to get hacked fairly quickly.

[@sigma682]

As of today, Model 3’s starting price is $38,990 USD, However RWD (base model) trim does NOT qualify for the $7,500 federal tax credit. Long Range AWD will qualify for the tax credit, making it $39,990 for 69 miles of additional EPA-rated range, 1.6 second faster 0-60 mph acceleration, and 17 speakers with dual subwoofers.

[@lester9230]

It's different here in Canada, LR can also get federal rebates but only RWD is cheap enough for the BC provincial rebate

[@sigma682]

@@lester9230 I know

[@jameshenderson1598]

eww

[@TheSolarisirc]

I have one and yeah the car is great but... the two things I don't like is the turn signal buttons and that the poor car does everything with the cameras (blindspot monitoring, rain detection, and everything else) and is prone to get confused, altough have noticed that it gets better with each update... but still would like normal turn signal controls, normal rain detection and normal blindspot sensors would be great

[@VincentGroenewold]

Literally no screen will ever replace true buttons. Like, I get the screen and I really love how responsive it is (in 2024 this seems a thing still with other brands), having actual clicky buttons for things you have to use ALL the time and not be too distracted, makes way more sense. Climate control, blinkers, going forward and backwards, those I should be able to memorize the location for and not having to navigate to on a screen. Also, FSD I would only use if actually not in beta and approved, leaving that off and having the auto cruise sometimes push the brakes hard.... uhhhhh like that shouldn't be a thing at all even. And while I would like to have a Tesla, I actually won't considering the cost of replacement parts and service. That's pretty big on such an experience as well.

[@MCasterAnd]

I wonder if they have started doing any sort of regular maintenance at all? My friends Tesla started literally falling apart because Tesla does not offer regular maintenance programs because it's «maintenance free»

[@Sonderax]

I think the reason Tesla is able to keep/increase storage space is because they build everything in house. They can design everything to work together seamlessly. Also on the white interior. Super super durable and clean easily

[@justan1ck]

and that`s why the electronics work so good

[@Sonderax]

@justan1ck a tesla just works. Not owned a Tesla, heck I don't even drive but we had an MG4 last year and despite being stupid efficiency and nice to drive, we had so many issues with the screen and windshields breaking.

[@DantesGrill]

@@Sonderax You shouldn't follow "It just works" with "never had one". I had a Volvo. It just works. Hit a deer with it, drove it home and changed a head light. It just works. Tesla does some good things, but it has quirks that has to go. Like the turn signal buttons.

[@Sonderax]

I've never owned one but i've had experience being a passenger and know a lot of people who own one. If i was to get a Tesla at my age, insurance would be around 7-8k/y and wont be down to a reasonable rate for like 5 years. Some stuff is bad i.e turn signals, but they do a lot good. They're basically the apple of the EV world. You buy a tesla cos it just works.

[@DantesGrill]

@@Sonderax What I assumed, but you should probably point your second hand experience out or people will just think you're a Tesla fanatic. Also, most of my Apple interactions has been awful and nothing works so I don't know, I think our experiences differentiates haha

[@sharzo7728]

alex really liked to move his head in this one

[@abhijiths2918]

Okay, I can now only hear that "sorry" in his Canadian accent 😂 absolutely love it.

[@Janiaje]

- There is an option for a "normal", physical key (for opening/closing the car trunk, frunk, doors, windows) - You can simply rearrange the buttons at the bottom of the screen and put the seat heating there - I agree, the auto wipers are nowhere near perfect - Yes, the original options for static headlights are blinding for the others, but if you actually turn on the adaptive headlights then IMO they are better than other manufacturers' - The suspension is a new adaptive one, that is why it is soft for the potholes and stiff for cornering :)

[@TrioLOLGamers]

The parking gesture and the turn signal must be a nightmare in any European City. Well, think of it this way: it's very close to the BMW experience. Same with this white type of led headlights...

[@SanderEvers]

But.. BMWs don't have turn signals.

[@jameshenderson1598]

Errrrr wrong. Please test drive one, hell test the new supra, or lots of toyotas. You got no idea how much stuff they make do you?

[@Noah-vi8zb]

Live in Sweden and have driven in other parts of Europe, turn signal button and parking gesture is completely fine and no issues here.

[@Pyriold]

@@Noah-vi8zb Would not say it's totally fine, roundabouts are an issue. But it's not such a huge deal as people make it out to be.

[@riodweber]

Downsides: Turn signals/wipers. Upsides: Everything else. Got it.

[@ASTZDomidragon]

Honestly, I love the turn buttons more after 1000km.

[@tauzN]

- The app is not mandetory. Besides the key card, you can buy a fob, and use the screen; like any other car - The automatic trunk works, and the car is not to blame for you not updating - It has 283 hp, not 210 (as shown on screen) or 207 (as said) - You can pin more climate controls to the app bar, like the seat heaters you mentioned - The blinding headlights are not a problem on the new model. You are getting blinded by Model Y and the old 3. - There is not sub in the rear. It has 2 speakers in the back doors, 4 in the front doors and 3 in the front dash

[@domenico_giovannini_65]

Everytime I see that car plate, I start to singin: "I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK, I sleep all night, I work all day..."

[@bad_manbot]

screen-only UX continues to both be a usability catastrophe and a SAFETY HAZARD. I can't wait until they move past this.

[@TechboyUK]

As an owner, I much prefer not having keys. My phone is they key. You can use your watch as a key and to perform some functions. My phones never get hot from the wireless charging. He didn't talk about the security cameras (auto sentry), the adaptive cruise control that comes free with all Tesla's, dog mode, camping mode, how you book a service (which is awesome), etc.

[@wtfisgoingon535]

"My phones never get hot from the wireless charging." lul

[@TechboyUK]

​@@wtfisgoingon535They don't in my Tesla... In the video he said they do

[@tommybot89]

@12:20 you should add a standard "test" every car you drive on this road and at this speed on this section this is the sound level our mic picked up with no one talking. really easy chart for comparing each cars quietness?

[@maxherman11]

Alex said the navigation isn't quite as good as Google Maps when in fact the navigation is quite literally provided by Google Maps. So he is saying google Maps is not as good as Google Maps. Only modifications Tesla makes to it are supercharging locations, apart from that it uses Google Maps data.

[@yoelkaplan]

as a tesla owner, how is not having a key a downside? i love the fact i can just leave home with my phone and nothing else

[@rare6499]

I don’t like it, what happens if your phone is stolen or battery runs out? What’s wrong with a key? They just work with zero downsides, having to use an app adds more negatives than positives IMO.

[@NoLiFeDesigns]

@@rare6499 what if you drop your keys somewhere or lose them for any other car? You can work with the same logic against that as well. With this system you can at least keep a key card in your wallet, chances that your battery runs out, you lose your phone, get it stolen and have your wallet and key card stolen as well are very very slim.

[@rare6499]

@@NoLiFeDesignsI think my biggest problem with relying on an app is that it seems like built in obsolescence. I know most people buy these cars on finance and then swap them out after 3 years, but app reliance makes me wonder how usable if all they will be in 15-20 years time. I still drive a car that old and the key will still be working regardless of software updates…

[@NoLiFeDesigns]

@@rare6499 The same app works for their 10 years old cars as well, so I'm not sure it's a concern with Tesla over chinese brands that kick out 10 models a year.

[@nguyenhanh9479]

@@rare6499 what happens if you lose your key? Like somehow it will comeback or something Mr.magician. ?

[@RudeMcRude]

Okay, So I'm not a car person at all, but I honestly cant think of any real reason that the 0-60 matters in any scenario outside of drag racing

[@pipooh1]

Cars are for a lot of people like a Iphone, status symbol. They need to have the newest Iphone, same goes for car people, they want to have the quickest car.

[@blewis42002]

Honesty it’s super nice to have a nimble car to get out of bad situations. If I wanna merge into a much faster moving lane of traffic, an EV just does it, while an ICE car takes a while to downshift and get going.

[@3ladeRunner]

It’s fun and useful for when you need to get in a different lane after a red light lol

[@BrianMcKee]

@@blewis42002 You can also just pick safer times to merge. Generally the only situation I find raw power to be really helpful (in terms of safety) is when I'm trying to get around slow people on 2 lane highways, and even then you don't need a super fast car to do it safely.

[@XchaosmarineX92]

The exit for my neighborhood is onto an often busy two lane road at 55mph. Quick acceleration is paramount if I don't want to wait 10 minutes for a longer opening.

[@TennisGvy]

The sad thing is the auto-wipers are 10x better than several months ago lol

[@121Zeen]

I was thinking of getting a Tesla for my next car, simply because they just seem to have the best package overall for the price point. I liked how essentially the only think you're missing out from moving up a trim is more power and/or range unlike some other manufacturers that's like, "you want heated seats? that's an extra 2k you have to spend to move up to the next package to get a bunch of other things you don't want as well with them heated seats." I was willing to ignore the grips I had about the car, both because while I didn't like something I knew I could live with and because other cars had more problems I could see (without actually owning the vehicle of course), but I'm at the point where I'm waiting for either other manufacturers to fix their shit or for Tesla to realize how stupid some of their design philosophy is. At this point I made a soft decision to just wait till 2030 before looking to buy a new car, but we'll see how things look in the interim.