Should attendance be made compulsory? (Don't miss discussion at

[@oofusmcdoofus]

This is probably my first time ive heard a professor speak so logically and coherently about attendance.

[@Prof_JC]

Thank you.

[@aliasgar9645]

It’s so true that quality of teaching is directly proportional to attendance. As a student of NIT I can say that if professor teaches well students automatically come to the class otherwise not.

[@MirzaAli-r5c]

I did not study in IIT But I learned in long Learn you should Have ability to Become expert By reading textbook

[@Mion_7]

Nice poem

[@yourevolution7850]

Well if you can understand the textbooks without any help Then you can even make your own aeroplane or do surgeries by yourself with out the degree

[@Mion_7]

@@yourevolution7850 bro u doing FAT FAT BIG FAT SARCASM HERE

[@139-b7j]

I have ADHD and classes are nothing short of a waste of time for me no matter how good the professors are, and I am the topper in a tier-1 research institute. I always learn much better and much quicker from books. Attendance requirement is quite simply ableist.

[@fx_1513]

Did you talk about this with your professors who use attendance?

[@139-b7j]

@@fx_1513 LOL

[@sundernarayan2643]

My comment is going to be slightly longer than the one I posted on the survey. First, kudos for addressing the elephant in the room as it is getting increasingly evident that this issue is gaining momentum especially with so many self-learning platforms. You hit the nail on the head when you talked about education not being a commodity. You are right when you say, just because someone has paid the college fees, doesn’t entitle them to a degree. I think people need to get it clear that the fees people are paying is not for the final degree but a service charge to the institution to facilitate the learning and education which finally culminates in the degree/certification. Now, in that if the institutions make it compulsory to attend classes as one of the criteria, then it is fair. To corelate, we all pay the road tax, but we still have traffic signal on the road, and we must follow the traffic signal. Do we say that we have paid the road tax, so it is up to us how we drive? People forget that classroom is not just for the lecturer to come and deliver and for the student to simply absorb. It is also a place for discussion, exchange of thoughts and ideas which will also benefit a larger section. Further, the classroom and college are a part of the larger scheme of society where in you learn how to live within the society and follow rules in addition to the learning of the subject. For anyone to study, the environment is so important and the being in college and attending classes gives the right feel. Also, all your knowledge cannot be gathered from the textbooks. You need have firsthand experience as an apprentice which is a crucial element in applied science (which incidentally engineering is!!). I can safely say that I do forget what I have read from the textbooks, but I still remember the small things which my professors have taught me even to this day. Finally, for those who don’t want to attend classes, I would suggest that instead of joining college, why don’t you try and take the AMIE exams all by studying on your own. Now, there will be few students who can read on their own and crack the exams, but exams are just one part of learning. For majority of the students, classroom is essential and so is structure and discipline. For a person who done his AMIE, after that done two masters in classroom-based environment and now doing his PhD, take it from me when I say nothing can replace classroom learning, it has elements of truth.

[@Prof_JC]

A very late reply! Very good analogy with road tax and traffic rules. You are absolutely right about the importance of interactions and the kind of learning that can only take place inside a classroom!

[@dineshmathsclasses2514]

I think some students performing well may be given some relaxation in attendance depending upon their marks scored.

[@gbcmouli1503]

Sir, I think the question is very complicated to answer in a general way. That is clear from the way you are trying to answer from the teachers' side and students' side. But it is a genuine effort from your side👏

[@Valor-glory]

I think we should not divert from the final aim of any education system and also all that institutions of tht system which is the education itself … means knowledge ,if i can get a better understanding , a better knowledge from other resources then my classroom.. which is very much possible in todays era….then i don’t think attendance has any relevance.

[@SunnyRosy-uk1ch]

Well said, I wanted to type exactly what you stated here

[@DhairyaMehta1234]

Yes you are right but most of the students who do not attend classes don't learn from anywhere and that is the main problem...They bunk classes for fun and hence people like you and me are exceptions....

[@Valor-glory]

@@DhairyaMehta1234 may be ur right but 1. The students who get select for IITs or NITs after working hard for JEE or GATE . I don’t think they go to IIT or NIT for passing time . 2. If classroom attendance is soo important then a large percentage of JEE or GATE aspirants should not be allowed admission in colleges only even after they qualify , because they have acquired the required knowledge to qualify for these most toughest exams by online mode without physical attending any classes. So when these colleges are happily accept such students for admission then their compulsion for attendance post admission for same students cant be justified by any rationale.

[@TanuBiswas-l2v]

Very happy to see a professor speaking about these topic which are least talked about. All the points are very well explained sir...One thing that I would like to add on this is that...there are times when a student faces some medical issues and miss some significant amount of classes...many a times professors still pose that mandatory attedence thing on them...even after providing them with proper medical certificates...which creates a great amount of stress for that student..this is also a matter of concern

[@flyingcakes85]

Liked this balanced take. Agree with your opinion on the first 2 points, that students having paid doesn't mean they're free to bunk classes. Schools / universities, among other things, also serve as a place to polish young people. Its only after that initial polishing we say that they're adults and eligible to make their decisions. So, reasonable disciplinary actions are also fine. And yes, many students don't want to attend classes irrespective of how good the professor is. That is certainly true.

[@Prof_JC]

But at the same time, as I mentioned later in the video, it is necessary that certain standards in teaching must also be maintained from the teachers' side.

[@flyingcakes85]

@@Prof_JC Yes sir, thats absolutely important too!

[@alqamashaikh1879]

I think NEP will create significant impact, and some theoretical courses in are not properly taught & learnt according to modern applications. For example, if I know that with Mechanical system design course, I would be able to design a project from scratch and also use modern techniques like generative design in FEM course (and why even take exam for FEM theory, why not make them write a generative design code? ) even if we are able to develop a single part using constraints it will be beneficial for everyone and fruitful. Instead of traditional classroom learning where we have to sit hours, engineers need to actually make full use of university campus and so does teachers need to make efforts in the direction that, their learning is transferred by not just listening to teachers instead by actually trying something out -> Failing and then teacher correcting or guiding them throughout the semester. Another propositions is, semesters could be designed as projects where in we need to complete the course in order to excel in the project. Because in the end, we have to solve field problems Again, nice words by you!

[@angshudeep.official]

Sir I guess compulsory 75 percent attendance it is very high ... it should be around 65 what do you think ..

[@stargazer137]

Bruh my institute has 80% attendance😭

[@curiousuniverse7415]

30-40%

[@playandwatch3129]

@@angshudeep.official 40% enough 😒

[@playandwatch3129]

@@angshudeep.official 40% enough 😒

[@amiteshrohi1070]

@@playandwatch3129 Yeah, 40% is enough. Most of them are ready to accept the 40% attendance criteria instead of 75% or 80%.

[@Piyushthote0867]

As nitian , for us classes are just waste of time as no interaction bttween students and professors,to harsh behaviour of professors, attendance lacking lead to not entering in end sem is wrost decision by our college 😢😢😢

[@bhaisunlejara7]

Konsi nit ki baat kr raha ho bro

[@ashwith]

I think what's important is that teachers must be encouraged/directed to evaluate exceptions and allow them without much friction. All of the rules we have do indeed make sense. There would have been some wisdom behind it. But this usually caters to the majority. Exceptions always exist and teachers must evaluate these without friction. Just as an example (and maybe its a bad example since I don't know enough details from both sides to judge the situation fairly) consider the recent case of a poor student who didnt get admission to IIT because he missed the date for the payment. The institute ahould have quickly evaluated this case as an exception and given the admission. We shouldn't have had to get the courts to intervene. I know of several students who have gone abroad and stayed there because there's way too much friction/red tape, etc here. Again, maybe it wasn't the IIT's fault, maybe they would have made an exception if circumstances were different (maybe they are short of staff).

[@srikanthtupurani6316]

World has changed so much . Now courses are available in you tube. Even if a student misses some classes he can watch videos and clear some doubts. But we have to be clear . No chat gpt , no you tube video can match direct interaction with teachers.

[@playandwatch3129]

I think 40% attendence should be enough in private colleges to write the exam.

[@Academicrelated]

I really need this type of videos where 1to1 communication with logical and calm speaking teacher and professor without any edits ❤❤❤❤

[@AmitKumar-er3dx]

Thank you sir, for highlighting the reality of education system. Sir ,you are the only professor that actually able to understand the pain of students. ❤❤❤

[@PIRA-bx9bu]

Sir Please make a video on how to analyse where we are lacking in our studies and how to minimise the mistakes that we done while studying

[@BhaktiKanthaliya]

Sir I have question Is it possible to crack IIT with rank under 50 without coching and only with study material,reference books, YT lectures and deep self studying If it is, please make video on it and also a video on maths calculation ( straight numerical one like 15.58×78.53÷987 )I am weak in solving such a problem Love you and your videos 💗 💗

[@Prayas_NITDGP]

I never even imagine to miss my electrical classes, but if I talk about mechanical,.. it's pathetic to survive 55 minutes, most of us actually feel sleepy. I can see the efforts of my professor, I've tried so many times to understand but failed. Now I just take the notes from the black board and try to search that topic on KZbin to understand. My one request to you professor, please recommend one good book for engineering mechanics for first year student.🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Prof_JC]

For Engineering Mechanics, you can go for the book by Beer, Johnston et al or the book by R. C. Hibbeler. Both books are excellent; I personally follow them.

[@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp]

@@Prayas_NITDGP except Beer & Johnston, please also follow Meriam & Kraige.

[@Prof_JC]

Yes, Meriam and Kraige is excellent for both Statics and Dynamics.

[@Prayas_NITDGP]

@@Prof_JC Thank you so much sir🙏🏼.

[@kylie7279]

I am not a good student got into a tier 2 Engineering college my only and only reason to never attend a class is that I am paying for college and your quality of teaching is not satisfactory. I am even bound to sit through the lecture without getting any output. Out of all the assets in my life I am highly qualified to say that my time is precious and we do not get time for turning in our assignments nor do we get the education that ensures my time is not wasted and I am learning something hence I think every individual student have a right to evaluate their teachers or at least giving opinion and then this imposition of attendance should be tied to their throats. I'll say it will tell you how students force themselves in class.

[@aparichit9728]

16:02 so true

[@HellRaiZOR13]

It is quite strange that after putting so much effort they enter into IITs it was their dream to study there when they were preparing for JEE and then they are not attending classes. I have not got the opportunity to study in IIT but man I would be excited to attend the classes there. I understand some professors teaching methods are quite boring or some courses are Boring or the syllabus feels outdated but man wasting resources and opportunity to interact with such experienced scientists and researchers is such a waste.

[@vedantkumarsrivastava5382]

My college has 0 percent attendance policy

[@themillionairetrader8232]

Which college bro??

[@susrat]

@@themillionairetrader8232 bits probably

[@Piyushthote0867]

Bits?

[@SwapnaSingh-xg5bq]

Is the student by any chance abishek ketan?

[@Prof_JC]

No. I had somebody else in my mind.

[@Premansh_tak]

sir you are my inspiration please guide for IIT JAM plesasseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@vinayak9828]

​@@ion8264he is asking about IIT JAM not IIT JEE

[@Premansh_tak]

@@ion8264 thanks you brother but i alwredy cleared mains with 89%ile its low thats why im asking for IIT JAM* cause im doing BSC plane

[@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp]

​​@@Premansh_tak I am sorry and do not mean to offend you but 89 percentile doesn't mean you're JEE Main qualified, unless we are talking about before 2023.

[@Premansh_tak]

@@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp thats why i said its too low

[@memes_media0622]

Hello professor I am in grade 12 and i am not going to school for past few days and i have decided to not go to school and study on my own with online material for two weeks and i will be attending after that i had given the time to the school earlier and i could not perform well due to the pace at which they are teaching its like a oneshot revision. After giving this much time to school i have came to the conclusion also there will be the time for covering up practical knowledge when i will be joining back the school. Am i on track or not?? Even last year they left many topics and did it on a faster pace and doing same this year......

[@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp]

Attendance is really important, but everyday at 8 am it feels like sleep is more important :)

[@Manishyadav1475-g8l]

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[@aparichit9728]

What about if someone is learning other things skills or side work with clg it's difficult to manage with clg atleast put attendance criteria to 60%, 75% is not in favor

[@sahasguideclasses1926]

Please make a video on how to become professor in iits

[@_SupremeGamer]

Great guidance Sir.

[@aspirant4427]

Just how to develop understanding through book reading i m preparing for csir net n gate in chemistry like i read reference books but dont understand

[@SubhamS16194]

What Is Attendance Policy In IIT Kharagpur Mtech Programms

[@yourevolution7850]

If you are bunking classes then you must be present at a place better than that. - a famous person

[@vinayak9828]

doesn't make sense even if you are up skilling yourself, there are profs who will deregister you from the course for short attendance

[@SanuThakur-pb8sj]

Sir and any college studsnt plzz reply i am giving jee 25 aspirant I want to ask if not iit then what ??

[@soobasis]

IIT gives u the "First Push" in your career, if u can not get into iit, where ever u go, please study very well, always ask "Why" in every topic, if u r unable to get the answer from books or from your teachers, use Ai, youtube. eventually u will succeed. Personally, i think not having Ai, was a big disadvantage while i was doing Engg. Disclaimer :- im not from iit.

[@SanuThakur-pb8sj]

​@@soobasissir i don,t think i would clear this f### jee exam Or i don,t want to drop year So if i got any private college what can i do from 1 st year so that i can assure good placement

[@soobasis]

@@SanuThakur-pb8sj depends on which decipline you are choosing. if IT/CSE, then u have a LOT of advisors available in youtube, check them (Apna college, Code with harry, MySirG, Harkirat singh...etc, I'm really guessing u r targeting IT/CSE), they cover every aspect of engineering journey from 1st to last year. If u can't get in IITs you may target, NITs, other State govt. collages. those are also good. But remember one thing carefully brother, no matter what you do, always give your full potential and make it clear to yourself "Why" you are doing it. It is far more important to understand basic things, then Memorizing 10years of PYQs and getting 9.5 grade. All of us made this mistake, we have memories all the PYQs, and didn't even try to understand a single thing, and now nearly 50% of Engineers in all over India are not even Employable.

[@soobasis]

@@SanuThakur-pb8sj JC sir himself have a Whole Playlist for JEE counciling for new students, go check it first.

[@SanuThakur-pb8sj]

@@soobasis thanks sir now felling good somehow . :)

[@omrane004]

My Department has 80 percent attendance in department of pharmaceutical sciences nagpur University

[@srinivaschillara4023]

You say the students are paying for their education. Actually this is usually not true, their parents pay for the course. If students feel so strongly about not attending classes, why can't they just take open university courses and do something else with their lives? Is it so painful to attended classes? Ofcourse if the faculty member is awful, then it is unappetizing to attend those classes. I understand that. Skipping classes should only be an exception and not a default approach. But, why is this even a topic of interest? Students just 'feeling' that they need not attend classes and can do better by themselves isn't based on evidence or any careful analysis of the benefits of a good teacher. Too many people think they are borderline geniuses, the vast majority of these will achieve nothing in the next 30 years. This is the kind of attitude which underpins many other debilitating habits and delusions which lead to poor outcomes for people, projects and ultimately organisations. Students should mull over the question: Why should they be giving more weightage to the advice from 'seniors' who have all of a couple of years of greater life experience than they give to faculty?

[@itsmeshyam1436]

Bang on. Forget about whether the student pays for their education or their parents do, it is a pointless waste of money from the student's side to dish out money to the institute, not attend most of their classes "just because they don't feel like it", flunk that course, rinse and repeat.

[@vimaln6613]

I have to disagree with a few things. 90% of people join college for placements and jobs. When I'm being taught a course that is genuinely uninteresting and I can pass by studying a day before the exam, why should I be bothered to attend the class? I can probably spend that time doing something more useful for my long term future than spend 3 hours a week in the classroom bored out of my mind and playing around in my phone. Open University courses alone don't mean anything when every recruiter in India looks for a proper degree. Indian colleges don't let us pick out own courses except for an elective or two, so we're stuck studying whatever the college decides for us, whether we like it or not. It is unfair to expect us to attend a course we didn't even want (Looking at you, Software Engineering!). Also, the attendance not being mandatory offers a greater classroom learning experience to students who are actually interested. Folks who'll disrupt the class won't attend it so the professor only teaches interested students and the overall classroom atmosphere is better.

[@programmersdiary6859]

World : PI is ratio of circumference to diameter Lundians : PI is 3.1415 and exist in vedas and upanishads Attendance is important. Lol😂 Once a slave always a slave

[@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp]

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[@programmersdiary6859]

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[@bhaisunlejara7]

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