Should Batman Kill & The Oscars 2024 - The Weekly Planet Podcast

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@AdamSoucyDrums
@AdamSoucyDrums 9 ай бұрын
It's so funny how context dependent this issue is and how much the execution matters to me. While I'd prefer if Keaton's Batman wasn't a killer, it doesn't stop me from loving those movies or that interpretation of the character because all of the elements in those films come together to make something fun, interesting, and enjoyable. I think the tone goes a *long* way there as well because those movies take place in this super heightened "fairy tale" kind of reality in a way that's almost weightless. Then there's Nolan, who is *actually* doing what Snyder is pretending he's doing, and pushing Batman to the point where he has to bend and even break his rule which really suits the grounded reality of those films. Bruce learns a lesson in letting Ra's die that serves his arc in that movie. He makes a panicked sacrifice to save a child and kills Harvey, which is MUCH more akin to that scene in TDKR that Snyder is referencing IMO. (I have no justification for Talia or burning down the League of Shadows. Reckless Bruce, do better) Snyder's Batman is just the Punisher in a cape, and the violence in those movies goes completely un-interrogated or explored in any meaningful or interesting way beyond "I just think it's silly that the man in the cape doesn't do big murders all the time" and I think that's ultimately the sticking point for me. Idk, that's a lot of words, sorry everyone!
@sathrielsatanson
@sathrielsatanson 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, whether a superhero kills or not is incosequential to the quality of the piece of art he is in. Snyder's movies would be as bad if Batman was not a psychopatic murderer and SUperman did not kill Zod.
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND 9 ай бұрын
I enjoy Snyder’s DC movies, but I also agree with every word you said.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing with regards to: Snyder just wants to make a The Punisher movie. Which is fine... just make a The Punisher movie, idiot. He doesn't like Superman or Batman, he doesn't understand comic books... so stop making movies about them. Idiot.
@WalkingDistance8
@WalkingDistance8 9 ай бұрын
There have been comic book examples where the heroes were put in a no-win scenario and couldn't hack the system. Prime example being Hickman's Avengers leading into Secret Wars, and it was phenomenal. The problem with Zack Snyder (and I say this as a former Snyder fan) is that he's not smart enough to do that kind of storytelling justice. He tried to put Superman in that scenario in Man of Steel, an idea I like in theory, but it was so poorly executed. Snyder wanted us to think that Superman had no other choice but to kill Zod but there were so many other options. A. The family had plenty of room to run but they inexplicably decided to just huddle in that corner. B. Superman could've flown Zod into the air C. Superman could've covered Zod's eyes with his hand. (This would've hurt like hell, but it would've been exactly the kind of thing Superman would do) Zack Snyder reminds me of a teenage boy. He has all these ideas that are completely unrefined and often stem from a lack of understanding of the characters he's working with. And the real tragedy is that he could be a true visionary if he would just get out of his own way.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
Enabled people usually don’t evolve beyond their flaws since they don’t need to. Rebel Moon was horrible but look how much money he got to do whatever he wants and how many men will call it gourmet despite it being the most generic space opera ever made imo
@sathrielsatanson
@sathrielsatanson 9 ай бұрын
I'd agree with you but everything you wrote is pointless. That Superman killed Zod is not Man of Steel's problem. It is a mediocre movie with pretentious symbolism and weak script. If Superman did not kill Zod it would still be all those things.
@WalkingDistance8
@WalkingDistance8 9 ай бұрын
I didn't say that him killing Zod was Man of Steel's problem. Snyder said he wants to put heroes in a situation where they don't have a choice but to kill. I was pointing out that he tried it with Superman and failed @@sathrielsatanson
@sathrielsatanson
@sathrielsatanson 9 ай бұрын
@@WalkingDistance8 I never said you did say that.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT 9 ай бұрын
ALSO: at no point in that fucking dumb wreck of a movie was Clark taught not to kill, which *really* undercuts the shock value Snyder the teenage edgelord was going for. What a hack. "Isn't it crazy that he killed?!?" Well, Snyder... no. Because he was taught to let innocent children die to protect his secret, since he wasn't taught the sanctity of human life, he probably has no rule against killing. At every point Snyder's like "he's so edgy, man, this isn't YOUR Superman, it's MY Superman, an EDGY Superman"... and then at the end he's like "OH MY GOD HE KILLED!!! AREN'T YOU SHOCKED!!!" What a hack.
@peanutbutter7721
@peanutbutter7721 9 ай бұрын
RIP Akira Toriyama. Man made my childhood and many of my existing friendships.
@6tiple6ix6afia
@6tiple6ix6afia 9 ай бұрын
I live on Japan and it's extremely rough here rn 😔
@tomralfe5428
@tomralfe5428 9 ай бұрын
I never actually finished reading Dragonball Z, but it is so important in the canon of manga that it has directly and influenced 99% of the comics I began reading in about 2005. This means that without it, I wouldn’t have any of the stories, characters and moments that so moved me and inspired me, and which probably kept me alive. Thank you Toriyama, and thank you boys for suitably honouring his legacy. Xx PS Scott Baio sucks.
@Reverse_Hood
@Reverse_Hood 9 ай бұрын
rot
@davidgillespie-official
@davidgillespie-official 9 ай бұрын
Great to have these two creeps make jokes about it
@vishalthefirst4140
@vishalthefirst4140 9 ай бұрын
The JRE dunks were so spot on
@Tortilla.Reform
@Tortilla.Reform 9 ай бұрын
Hahah exactly. Just saw a clip of Rogan “dunking” on Biden because he thought biden said airports were stormed during the revolutionary war; producer Jamie showed him that Biden was actually quoting Trump saying that, and rogan just moved on to another topic, as if it’s suddenly not a wild thing to say 😂
@vishalthefirst4140
@vishalthefirst4140 9 ай бұрын
@@Tortilla.Reform that clip was incredible Really displayed the hypocrisy of roe jogan
@anshulgoyal597
@anshulgoyal597 9 ай бұрын
I read the title as "Should Batman Kill the Oscars 2024" and I thought why not?
@KristovMars
@KristovMars 9 ай бұрын
Me too, and my initial response was "that's probably a bit excessive" but on further reflection he'd be doing more good by doing that than by brutalizing the downtrodden of Gotham's mean streets.
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 9 ай бұрын
Time for another Superhero Showdown episode
@corywilson2007
@corywilson2007 9 ай бұрын
Same
@alfje5492
@alfje5492 9 ай бұрын
But why is he killing 2024 Oscars, does he hate that many people called Oscar?
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
Anything to silence the overhype of slow motion macro shots of fire getting praised as a nuclear bomb, pllllsssssssssss
@DanielEvanClarke
@DanielEvanClarke 9 ай бұрын
I like the no kill rule but I hate stories where they keep having to say they have a no kill rule
@christianyoung9808
@christianyoung9808 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m an advocate for the No kill rule but I’m gonna be honest I’d rather have stories where Batman does kill then ones where he tells EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER that he doesn’t kill and patronizes others for not living up to that standard. One of my favorite moments in the recent movie is Batman telling Gordon not to use guns and Gordon basically telling him to F off “That’s your thing man”
@rodanandme
@rodanandme 9 ай бұрын
it’s a good rule for a character like Batman who’s a very tortured character, not so good as a plot point for other characters. If Superman had to keep saying he doesn’t kill people, we’d just believe that he thinks about killing people nonstop and has to stop himself.
@kiarashtaheri7478
@kiarashtaheri7478 9 ай бұрын
and this rule is integral for most of batman's best stories like without this rule we would not have the dark knight or under the red hood batman literally gives up his role to terry in batman beyond because he couldn't win without a gun
@Kango234
@Kango234 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I think the biggest issue with Batman and comics in general is there are 80 years worth of stories and bad writers feel the need to shock people and push things to the edge so they have the Joker do absolutely heinous shit or even one story where the joker gets the death penalty and Batman has to save him at the end. It just makes him seem like an idiot when in reality, he just doesn't think he deserves to be judge, juror and executioner.
@cryptking6283
@cryptking6283 9 ай бұрын
Problem for Zack is that panel he's talking about in Dark Knight Returns isn't what he thinks it was. He didn't kill the mutant with the kid, and didn't shoot him in the head, it was in the shoulder. It's all in Snyder's head. He never kills in the comic and the only death is Joker who kills himself. The tank even used rubber bullets
@Renoistic
@Renoistic 9 ай бұрын
Rubber bullets... honest!
@cryptking6283
@cryptking6283 9 ай бұрын
@@RenoisticYep. 3.bp.blogspot.com/-niTHGpTydP0/U5kk_q9zYOI/AAAAAAAAE9U/Ocin5O72XAQ/s640/batman-rubber-bullets.jpg
@YoutubrYoutubr-ip1md
@YoutubrYoutubr-ip1md 9 ай бұрын
The actor that played Goku in Evolution came out and apologized to Toriyama for letting him down in a post the other day. Also there’s a new budokai coming out this year called Sparking Zero
@Maxisamo1
@Maxisamo1 9 ай бұрын
He also apologized much earlier years back as well as the director (who admitted he was chasing a paycheck)
@MegaRay220
@MegaRay220 9 ай бұрын
James probably meant Budokai not Budokai Tenkaichi. Which means his best bet now is FighterZ
@nathanlemire8944
@nathanlemire8944 9 ай бұрын
In The Dark Knight Returns, Batman is old and kind of emotionally broken, and fed up. BvS is devoid of character development. But also, goggles are cool.
@Buttato99
@Buttato99 9 ай бұрын
That's bc every character in BvS is too stupid to have character development. Esp Batman.
@BunkBeazy
@BunkBeazy 9 ай бұрын
No, no, there was absolutely character development, and batman killing was a major part of it. People just always critique based on what they wanted and didn't get, rather than the movie itself and the story being told.
@videogamenostalgia
@videogamenostalgia 9 ай бұрын
The sequel to the Mario Bros movie will see Mario and Luigi enter a portal and emerge in the Morbius/Venom/Madame Webb universe
@jordanwang1035
@jordanwang1035 9 ай бұрын
More SPUMM!!
@epicbruhmoment6985
@epicbruhmoment6985 9 ай бұрын
I really am convinced that Snyder only read the Dark Knight Returns so he could have an example of Batman using a gun to justify it, because you'd have to be crazy for that to be your takeaway from that story. It's one thing to not agree with the rule but Snyder just seemed keen to have him wielding a gun as often as he could. It really all just comes across like he wanted to prove a point and "fix" batman more than tell a story about a character that so many love.
@6tiple6ix6afia
@6tiple6ix6afia 9 ай бұрын
People who say "you don't understand movies because Snyder is a director not a writer" as some sort of defense, are the ones who fail to realize that Snyder wrote the story for the ORIGINAL Justice League, and he was a main writer for Sucker Punch, the 300 sequel, and he completely wrote Rebel Moon 🤣
@chrissullivan6572
@chrissullivan6572 9 ай бұрын
Super will continue. They just started a new arc and his apprentice, Toyotaro has been writing the manga for a while now. RIP to an absolute icon tho. 🐉🐉
@CrowTRobot
@CrowTRobot 9 ай бұрын
I know Akira Toriyama wrote an upcoming mini-series about all the characters getting converted into kids called Daima (and the animation looks beautiful) but I really hope the Moro and Granolah arcs get animated someday.
@davidblank420
@davidblank420 9 ай бұрын
Just remember when you get a shot for shot remake of anything you end up with Psycho staring Anne Hache and Vince Vaughn. 😂
@Tortilla.Reform
@Tortilla.Reform 9 ай бұрын
@16:50 the idea that Wario and Waluigi are actually scorned former super fans of mario and luigi is hilarious. Never meet your heroes
@jakipop3397
@jakipop3397 9 ай бұрын
That Zack Snyder quote is one of the worst things I've heard in the past week. Man.
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 9 ай бұрын
"Yeah... I'm Man." - Zack Snyder
@ulises4241
@ulises4241 9 ай бұрын
As a latino, Dragon Ball has basically become part of our culture her, its huge, the only i could put it in perspective is Dragon Ball is what Star wars is to the USA but times 100. feels like the whole latino community is in mourning. Hundreds of homages were made and are being made for him. Dragon Ball helped me made friends, bring my family closer together, inspire me to work out, never give up. As some one put it. Today it is not the man you created who cries, but the child you helped grow.
@spartanB0292
@spartanB0292 9 ай бұрын
Is there any particular reason for DB being so relevant to South American countries?
@raf.raf.
@raf.raf. 9 ай бұрын
​@@spartanB0292 I don't know if there's a specific reason. It could be just good timing and a good product. I was born in 1991, and in my childhood we just didn't have many quality options as far as animation goes, specially on open (non cable/satellite) tv. Before anime (and during it's first broadcast years) children programming would be basically game shows (like those nickelodeon ones, but way simpler), Chavo del Ocho (which is also huge here) and those old looney tunes style cartoons. So anime was really impressive and way more complex, animation-wise but also plot-wise. And I think Dragon Ball (specially Dragon Ball Z) was part of this first wave. It was just awesome, and really violent, which made it WAY cooler in my mind at the time. There were other big anime at the time who still have huge fanbases nowadays, like Saint Seya and Yu Yu Hakusho (this one due to the incredible dub, full of regionalisms and local expressions), but I'd say that Dragon Ball is by far the one that had the most impact. For context, I'm Brazilian.
@ulises4241
@ulises4241 9 ай бұрын
@@spartanB0292 ​ back then (and even today) most Latin American Tv station didn't have the budget for animated shows, so most of them would import them from other countries. While Latin America did get USA shows like thundercats, gi joe, He-man they were episodic shows, with little to no character development or continuum story. That's where anime was different, it had story arcs, character development, and im just gonna say it, Latinos love novelas, and most animes are just animated novelas haha. in many ways, japanese culture is more similar to latin america culture than Japanese is to usa culture. Also, Dragon Ball had an amazing dub, in the USA, the names of attacks were change, the OG japanese music was change, new dialoged was added and some characters personalities where modified. All that in order to make it more ''American'. here in latin America all the og music was keep, the attacks were not rename, so much more was closer to the original. I could go on and on on the many reasons Dragon Ball being so popular in Latin ameica but ill leave it at that hah
@runner9528
@runner9528 9 ай бұрын
Zack Snyder's DC movies are just bad movies. Fixing Batman wouldn't help.
@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8
@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8 9 ай бұрын
Gotem
@lapetitecuillereetlepaindo3005
@lapetitecuillereetlepaindo3005 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. Comic book accuracy is just fun to argue about but it doesn't make or break a movie.
@woody_you_want
@woody_you_want 9 ай бұрын
It's funny because his batman never has a moment where he really NEEDS to kill to either survive or avoid disaster. He just kind of does it
@GeoffWilde
@GeoffWilde 9 ай бұрын
Nice critique!
@tappajavittu
@tappajavittu 9 ай бұрын
All of his movies are just bad movies.
@kiarashtaheri7478
@kiarashtaheri7478 9 ай бұрын
but remember this rule is integral for most of batman's best stories like without this rule we wouldn't have the dark knight or under the red hood batman literally gives up his role to terry in batman beyond because he couldn't win without a gun
@paintbrushboltgun
@paintbrushboltgun 9 ай бұрын
I reckon just review Road House when you also cover Snakes Eyes - which as we all know is coming.
@christophercomtois7175
@christophercomtois7175 9 ай бұрын
Coming they already did it didn’t they.
@JarvisBaileyVA
@JarvisBaileyVA 9 ай бұрын
13:50 in regards to cameos, I would kill for Rebecca Romijin to put on that Mystique makeup just one more time ❤️🥵
@bbrbbr-on2gd
@bbrbbr-on2gd 9 ай бұрын
Executives always leaning into the worst decisions and failing upwards. Nothing's wrong with the current economic system...
@epicbruhmoment6985
@epicbruhmoment6985 9 ай бұрын
"Whoops I meant the Punisher that's who I was talking about this whole time." - Zack Snyder Probably
@GuanoLad
@GuanoLad 9 ай бұрын
Ricky Stanicky was filmed here in Melbourne, I'm not sure if you mentioned that. Indeed, some of it was filmed next door to where I live.
@Irkaylub
@Irkaylub 9 ай бұрын
Just going to say that Dr. Slump was actually huge for many years and he actually would have been a famous mangaka based off that work alone had that been his only break out hit. Dragon Ball absolutely dwarfed it in terms of success but Toriyama was already well and established in his profession before that.
@crMonty
@crMonty 9 ай бұрын
About the kobiashi Maru... There is an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation where Troi takes the bridge officer's exam (Season 7 Thine Own Self). *SPOILERS* She works her butt off trying to pass the exam but only actually passes when in the end, she orders Geordie to his death. It's beautiful and it's absolutely true Star Trek has shown this one, at least, example of the Kobiashi Maru played out.
@forty_two42
@forty_two42 9 ай бұрын
I really dig people using Goku as inspiration. I've only read the first big chunk of DragonBall I think it was like #64 and he was chilling with a Frankenstein in a tower when I fell off. So I'm only familiar with kid Goku. But I do this with Superman. Superman will do anything and everything to keep going. He lived 500 years and killed 2 separate clones of Hitler with a giant gun. Because Kal-el will keep going until he thinks everything is okay
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 9 ай бұрын
I honestly can't tell if Superman being hundreds of years old and having killed two Hitler's is actual canon or just something you made up.
@forty_two42
@forty_two42 9 ай бұрын
@HOTD108_ it's a one issue story from 1995 called "Superman: At Earth's End" its considered pretty cheesy but I always enjoyed it
@hegmonster
@hegmonster 9 ай бұрын
Damn, that Executive Decision soundtrack really kicks things up a notch! I think you found your new "Defenders of the Earth."
@reddragon0624
@reddragon0624 9 ай бұрын
I’ll say this: the idea of telling a story about a Batman who decided to stop holding back and throws his moral code away falls apart immediately if THE JOKER is still alive and running around causing havoc. Especially a Joker that murdered Robin.
@heikkiheikko3514
@heikkiheikko3514 9 ай бұрын
yeah, all of suicide squad would be dead too
@GamingintheAM0801
@GamingintheAM0801 9 ай бұрын
I won a Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 tournament in high school and that's still my greatest achievement to this day.
@EmperorJ123
@EmperorJ123 9 ай бұрын
My condolences to the guys and fans of the Dragonball creator.
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 9 ай бұрын
As a huge fan of Dragonball Evolution, I am devastated.
@EmperorJ123
@EmperorJ123 9 ай бұрын
@HOTD108_ so sorry bud. I have only played one of the games and I thought it is top.
@Lios959
@Lios959 9 ай бұрын
Every time Zac Snyder opens his mouth I become more convinced he doesn't understand anyone else's view of super heroes.
@BunkBeazy
@BunkBeazy 9 ай бұрын
Why does a story teller need to understand someone elses view of anything? He makes movies with his views. If you want a movie made with your own views, you're going to have to make it yourself.
@Lios959
@Lios959 9 ай бұрын
Full disclaimer I didn't listen to the Joe Rogan interview. But taking them at their word. He says he wants to see what happens if batman kills because him not killing is cannon. It sounds like to me he's trying to deconstruct batman and try something possible subversive and new. I think to properly deconstruct something you have to understand what it is you are deconstructing. For example his watchmen adaptation I think completely missed the point that super heroes in real life would probably be sad kinda pathetic people with hangups and mental illnesses that shouldn't be idealized. But like every action shot from the murder scene to the sex in the owl plane scene is trying to make them look cool. I'd argue he either doesn't care, or missed the point. Either way it leads to what I believe to be a sub par product. I feel like this is a chronic problem for him. What he's saying could be interesting. But I don't think he... Thinks it through... Or understands it enough to execute his vision competently? That's just my opinion. A person who keeps on giving him chances and watching his movies even though I hate most of them. Ymmv
@Lios959
@Lios959 9 ай бұрын
​@@BunkBeazyand they kinda mention this. Ok so batman kills. What did you avtually do with that in your stories? I'd argue not much. So to me it feels like he's trying to be subversive, doesn't quite know what he's trying to subvert, and then fails in execution. He should 100 percent make movies with his views. And I definitely couldn't do better. But his movies keep getting reviewed poorly and I think they all stem from the same problem. He doesn't look far enough outside his world view and doesn't ever get past the "this would be cool" phase to actually do anything interesting with the material.
@petedonegan9651
@petedonegan9651 9 ай бұрын
I think Batman killing people is world breaking for a number of reasons. The one I don't hear brought up enough is that all his gadgets only exist because he's avoiding killing. Batarangs? Why even make those? You can just use guns. If you're ok killing people, all you're gadgets would be devoted to killing people. That's why the Punisher is Punisher and not Batman.
@roadtoau
@roadtoau 9 ай бұрын
Yup pretty much. Batfleck was clearly okay with using guns, either just actual guns or guns on his vehicles. So him going around fighting with punches and kicks just makes him look fucking stupid. Without the no kill rule, Batman just does not exist.
@sath093
@sath093 9 ай бұрын
I didn't expect the mention of the Cristal beer commercials in Chile, I still remember those commercials when I saw the prequels like 20 years ago, it was very funny and ingenious
@eduardoarias_photo
@eduardoarias_photo 9 ай бұрын
1:22:15 needs to become a new sound bite for Caravan and this lol
@heikkiheikko3514
@heikkiheikko3514 9 ай бұрын
Zach Snyder needs a co director to handle plot and characters, so he can focus on cinematography and action.
@CoraValentine1999
@CoraValentine1999 9 ай бұрын
Heads Up James, if you like Budokai then you should try Infinite World. It’s Budokai 4 with a different name.
@alwyzbandit7291
@alwyzbandit7291 9 ай бұрын
I had no idea what 'JRE' podcast meant until it was spelled out XD
@kingfield99
@kingfield99 9 ай бұрын
Why doesn't the Breaking Bad house owner just fix a realistic looking fibre glass pizza to the roof and then charge fans $10 to get their photo taken with it? She's missing trick I reckon.
@SeanS102
@SeanS102 9 ай бұрын
Thoroughly agreed, that's what I'd be doing!
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, why doesn't that person turn their actual house where they actually live into a sideshow attraction? It's so strange for someone to want privacy.
@vincentmontgomery839
@vincentmontgomery839 9 ай бұрын
When the weekly planet is on it's definitely on
@archangel1of7
@archangel1of7 9 ай бұрын
You guys need to finish writing that version of the Hollywood song. I need that in its own sound bite lol
@christianmanka3884
@christianmanka3884 9 ай бұрын
Snyder has never understood Batman. Ever.
@pennywaldrip3774
@pennywaldrip3774 9 ай бұрын
Road House goes the way of Snake Eyes. Looking forward to the Road House/ Snake Eyes double-feature.
@archangel1of7
@archangel1of7 9 ай бұрын
I just want to interject with a correction. It's actually Walter Ghoulgins.
@shinobi-no-bueno
@shinobi-no-bueno 9 ай бұрын
Goggins seems to be playing an actor who was a famous TV cowboy turned vaultek spokesman who is now living his TV persona as a ghoul...in case that wasn't obvious to anyone else
@sallygene
@sallygene 9 ай бұрын
Good morning boys!
@happiaxxident
@happiaxxident 9 ай бұрын
Left a Like for Madam Web news.
@thebevanator3813
@thebevanator3813 9 ай бұрын
Hey Netflix! I'd just like to say that my rebel moon view should count as half because i watched it by myself and I never finished it 😅
@smacksalad
@smacksalad 9 ай бұрын
"I dont understand why people hate me" Delusional hubris about the success of Rebel Moon isnt gonna help with that :)
@CavemanBatman
@CavemanBatman 9 ай бұрын
It’s genuinely shocking that you can directly link James with the downfall of the DC cinematic universe. It’s not his fault, but he is partially responsible for Batman v Superman and that’s absolutely fucking WILD
@4t5ive72
@4t5ive72 9 ай бұрын
Zach Snyder should look for good scripts for movies that may want to go big and epic but not have the studio backing to get a high budget and then just focus on bringing that vision to life with his directorial flair. Hell, do it in the rebel moon universe and just use a good script and elevate. Everytime I hear about a snyder movie I am excited to see what he would do visually but the story and the core of it is just so flat it ends up disappointing everytime
@Lubble-
@Lubble- 9 ай бұрын
Snyder has an ego the size of the moon....he thinks he knows better and thinks he'll make things that span for decades, he failed with DC, he made a very underwhelming zombie film which had a far superior prequel that he had no hand in, he made a mediocre star wars rip off and now he's trying to stay relevant now that people see how boring he is as a director....he isn't some genuis creator, he takes things that already released exist, does them worse and makes it all slow motion
@imarobobot8795
@imarobobot8795 9 ай бұрын
23:50 I love how utterly clueless these ghouls are about the video games even they release. JB over here commenting on the state of the games industry, having all bad takes, and not even being able to get the name right of their highest selling game. Yes, I'm sure we all rejected your MTX-ridden Suicide Squad because there wasn't ENOUGH MTX in it.
@NateArchibaldWithTheFro
@NateArchibaldWithTheFro 9 ай бұрын
I don’t like Zach Snyder because he seems to completely misunderstand everything about the stuff HE makes. Seems like a nice fellow otherwise though
@CrowTRobot
@CrowTRobot 9 ай бұрын
Maso likes Chrono Trigger and Alan Wake. A man of fine tastes.
@AnesthesiaCat
@AnesthesiaCat 9 ай бұрын
"what would happen if I clearly ignored a popular character's key characteristics" and "why are people mad at me" ... seems like you could do a little self-reflection and come to a conclusion of some sort... I agree snyder's a pleasant fellow irl but my goodness it seems like he doesn't understand a lot of what he's doing when he makes movies, other than the cinematography
@dmkq9554
@dmkq9554 9 ай бұрын
I do appreciate how open minded James is, i know Zach doesnt always hit the nail on the head, and hes got his own ways of doing things, even if its not to my liking but id rather have someone who takes something well established and twists it, he wants to make cool stuff, he wants to make cool looking stuff, even if its over the top edgy or whatever, but atleast in my opinion, its something different. And overall, i just like Zach Snyder as a person, he really does seem like a nice guy who loves what he does, his way, and i like that. Theres gonna be a million more Batmen and Supermen this is just one of them. But again, youre allowed to not like his versions, he does contradict himself in what he talks about and what he does so criticism is on that is valid.
@WayneManor666
@WayneManor666 9 ай бұрын
I like your statement
@BaithNa
@BaithNa 9 ай бұрын
Over the past decade, Zack Snyder has repeatedly proven to have zero understanding or respect for the characters of DC and its becoming more evident that he only knows one DC book, The Dark Knight Returns. Giving him creative control over the DCEU was the biggest mistake any studio has ever made.
@L0NELYBRICK
@L0NELYBRICK 9 ай бұрын
Mid 2000s squadron supreme Nighthawk book(the stand in for bat) kills his version of the joker during the very first story he appears in. My point, how do you do a batman that kills? By making him not batman....
@DogBrainDingus
@DogBrainDingus 9 ай бұрын
I feel like you guys misunderstood Zach Snyder when he said more people saw Rebel Moon than saw Barbie. I interpreted as he was more talking about the platform of Netflix being more easily accessible at home and already paid for, compared to people going out to the theater to see a movie.
@Manuel_Chinaski
@Manuel_Chinaski 9 ай бұрын
I still don’t believe that to be true .
@seth8877
@seth8877 9 ай бұрын
My cat Selphie (final fantasy 8) who knows her name was deeply concerned when you guys repeatedly said her name.
@whatwhatwhat2939
@whatwhatwhat2939 9 ай бұрын
my fave part of the Rob Pat The Batman was when he told Catwoman/Gordon no killing/no guns. Does he think no one died in that massive car pile up he caused chasing the Penguin?
@flywheelshyster
@flywheelshyster 9 ай бұрын
I already had my coffee...so i'll have it again! the weekly planet is the best coffee creamer after all wink wink nudge nudge say no more
@Elfenlied8675309
@Elfenlied8675309 9 ай бұрын
Zack Snyder doesn't even remember the Dark Knight Returns correctly! Batman doesn't shoot the mutant threatening the kid in the head! He shoots them in the shoulder. The police commissioner lists his charges later in the panels and murder isn't one of them, until he breaks Joker's neck.
@The_RedVIII
@The_RedVIII 9 ай бұрын
The Zelda movie is apparently live action, so it is unlikely that they are planning a Smash Bros movie with those iterations. Although I guess Sonic is also a CGI character running around with live action actors, so who knows. This is going to be terrible either way.
@SirAsdf
@SirAsdf 9 ай бұрын
4:30 Further update on Toriyama's death. He apparently had planned surgery for a brain tumor removal, so it's possible that the hemotoma was a result of complications from that.
@Kango234
@Kango234 9 ай бұрын
Man it's crazy Mason played Chrono Trigger and didn't realize it was Toriyama despite the characters looking exactly the same as Dragon Ball ones. It goes to show how important these tributes are just to make sure people realize all the contributions an artist has created during their life.
@paulinlongbeach
@paulinlongbeach 9 ай бұрын
I've heard so many other KZbinrs referencing the "Batman Kills" video, there is no reason to delete that video at this point. Campea, Harloff, RMB, Paul at Heavy Spoilers. Sorry James, it's Canon at this point.👏👏👏 In fact, I'm going to pause the podcast and watch it again.
@ryanfliegelman3166
@ryanfliegelman3166 9 ай бұрын
I really want to hear u guys review the zone of interest one of my favorite movies in years
@yungoldman2823
@yungoldman2823 9 ай бұрын
what happened to the “new” theme song? you guys were so excited about it and now its just this weird clipped version of the old one
@RewindReleases
@RewindReleases 9 ай бұрын
The John Campea Show actually gave you a shot out about your kill count video 😊
@CasualClassroom
@CasualClassroom 9 ай бұрын
Oda (the author of One Piece) said something really touching about Toriyamas passing. “May heaven be the joyous world you envisioned in your manga”
@Lukkilikka
@Lukkilikka 9 ай бұрын
If you enjoyed the universe in the Valerian movie, it's based in a series of comics, which have lot of cool worldbuilding
@Haysey_Draws
@Haysey_Draws 9 ай бұрын
So much shade to Daniel
@kingfield99
@kingfield99 9 ай бұрын
Bloody got him!
@rouenrobinson
@rouenrobinson 9 ай бұрын
Will Roadhouse become the new Snakeyes lol
@davidblank420
@davidblank420 9 ай бұрын
The only good Zach Snyder film was oddly enough written by James Gunn and it was like twenty years ago.
@BackJack450
@BackJack450 9 ай бұрын
I forgot about that, that's hilarious in hindsight
@davidblank420
@davidblank420 9 ай бұрын
​@@BackJack450Right and even it has some questionable moments 😂
@Supernormalbob
@Supernormalbob 9 ай бұрын
It’s a miracle he keeps making such massive budget movies. At some point someone’s gonna stop giving him insane money right? Right????
@davidblank420
@davidblank420 9 ай бұрын
@@Supernormalbob I certainly hope so, I wouldn't care if he made good things lol 😂
@austinsavage5962
@austinsavage5962 9 ай бұрын
When mason said i didnt give up because of goku i teared up a little because man did i feel that
@CGISpiderLegs
@CGISpiderLegs 4 ай бұрын
40:31 This is a great point, and I can't believe I never thought of that. That should really end the conversation right there. Why did Snyder put his "god" in the position where he would not kill the man who murdered his ward?
@MonolithStudiosMelbourne
@MonolithStudiosMelbourne 9 ай бұрын
Cell saga is genuinely some of the best TV I ever watched as a youngster and even now!
@charsiuwu8084
@charsiuwu8084 9 ай бұрын
Toriyama-sensi was also the original concept art designed for Dragon Quest!
@Holdthetomatoesplz
@Holdthetomatoesplz 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this since 2013: Zack Snyder’s ego is so inflated it’s nauseating. He makes movies about CGI men in tights punching each other, it’s not the retelling of the Bible and acting like he’s a “misunderstood” auteur because he tries and fails to make entertaining movies is so misguided. He needs to make movies that don’t need a 7 hour directors cut or plans for four sequels in order for us to enjoy them
@RusPitman
@RusPitman 9 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe that Zack Snyder understands anything. I think he’s learnt how to do and make things, but has no idea why any of it does or doesn’t work. His explanations are almost always completely surface level.
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 9 ай бұрын
How dare you call In-n-Out a dirty burger! They use real ingredients and cook in an open kitchen so you can see what is going on. Sure, it's still packed with fat, but it's natural fat and they wrap it so you can use the paper to keep your fingers from getting messy. Honestly. In-n-Out is one of the last fast food places that actually gives you real food in exchange for your money instead of trying to feed you whatever cheap animal products meet the FDA description of meat.
@CYeoung
@CYeoung 9 ай бұрын
stop you’re embarrassing yourself
@Manuel_Chinaski
@Manuel_Chinaski 9 ай бұрын
@@CYeounglet him cook .
@jessejorgensen3931
@jessejorgensen3931 9 ай бұрын
I came into dbz when goku was on namek he was in the bacta tank. I was hooked. Dragon ball was awesome. Then new ones. I'm not sure what ppl think of it anymore . It was popular in the late 90s but then suddenly dbz was baby anime. The anime that losers watch. Loved dragon ball, too. Thank you for the laughs, guys . Im so glad i came into this show 7 years late. It's amazing background noise for my a.d.d. doesn't matter if it was yesterday or 7 years ago.
@PhoenixIndustries
@PhoenixIndustries 9 ай бұрын
I watched two documentaries recommended by James and mason. Robodoc on the making of the first Robocop. Also Here Comes A New Challenger on the making of Street Fighter II. Both great watch
@handlesarestupid154
@handlesarestupid154 9 ай бұрын
RIP weekly planet opening
@THAMAINMAN2025
@THAMAINMAN2025 9 ай бұрын
Zack Snyder is unhinged.
@ljholmes2177
@ljholmes2177 9 ай бұрын
Ooooo it’s gonna be a good Monday
@TheEnecca
@TheEnecca 9 ай бұрын
Love how faceless excutives are making these terrible movies like madam web and then are angry at actors for trying to save face. Totally normal people.
@gunnerbriscoe3315
@gunnerbriscoe3315 9 ай бұрын
Caravan of Garbage idea: 1980’s animated Ewoks and/or Caravan of Courage
@jessica_in_japan
@jessica_in_japan 9 ай бұрын
They just announced a new Dragon Ball anime series to start this autumn, I believe. It was featured on the news scroll on the trains in Tokyo today.
@woody_you_want
@woody_you_want 9 ай бұрын
Toriyama shaped so much of my childhood with dragon ball I really hope they don't botch the future archs that he already wrote when they inevitably adapt them
@joeaguilera6448
@joeaguilera6448 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact during the production of super Mario’s brothers movie there was a persistent glitch animators were working with which pushed their crunch time even further & was causing a tint through out the animation leading to its nickname on set of blue harvest
@heikkiheikko3514
@heikkiheikko3514 9 ай бұрын
🤬
@barrybarry7159
@barrybarry7159 9 ай бұрын
Damit you got me
@niallgaffney2475
@niallgaffney2475 9 ай бұрын
So Red Notice would have made $4.6BN in cinemas…. Sounds too low
@NitroTheFlash
@NitroTheFlash 9 ай бұрын
Crazy how yall watched madame web but maso wont watch last airbender. hes missing out on the best show
@alastairmckenziepro
@alastairmckenziepro 9 ай бұрын
You guys should read Mike Greaney's "Mandatory Fun". Melbourne local 🤙
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 9 ай бұрын
The thing about Oppenheimer is... would it have done as well without Barbie? It may have done well and made its money back, but would it have brought in as much.
@brodycdxx2554
@brodycdxx2554 9 ай бұрын
The true lore behind waluigi and wario is wario hated Mario and Luigi and wanted to be the bad version of mario and Luigi so he hires a struggling character actor named Jimmy Papadopalis and made him legally change his name to waluigi and pretend to be his evil brother…I saw that in an old Nintendo book that they used to sell so you could get the lore for the characters
@Joyboy9891
@Joyboy9891 9 ай бұрын
I love dragon ball it’s one of my favorite IP’s to date. I also started with the cell saga while it was airing on tv and it won me over so fast. It was the gateway drug that got me into anime.
@J.O.R.D
@J.O.R.D 9 ай бұрын
18:50 I was abouttt to say I guarantee they do that at some point😂
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