Should Christian Petracca have returned to the field? | AFL 360 | Fox Footy

Gerard and Robbo discuss Christian Petracca's brutal injury and debate whether he should have returned to the field.
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[@Insignificatos]

It's just a game folks. Life is the Real Game. Look after your Health.

[@kalebarancelovic]

Well said 👍

[@elevated2k]

Forget about footy - your health and wellbeing comes first.

[@lukerobinson87]

Really well some people footy comes before there health and who are (we)you to judge???

[@thyroma9144]

I agree for regular season games but if it was a grand final or something I'd push through the best I could

[@cheifasmith]

​@@lukerobinson87 health is way more important than footy .. how he was allowed to keep playing is mind boggling

[@Maxindifference]

@@cheifasmithwhy?

[@cheifasmith]

@@Maxindifference blind freddy could see it was something more serious .. stupid to go back on

[@charliebrownjohn1464]

Ridiculous call to play with those injuries

[@taxads7791]

Dunstall was comfortable with it, backs the medical staff he says.. doubt those close to Christian would agree

[@imalwaysright]

@@taxads7791Christian wanted to go back on, like every other injured player does. They likely tried to talk him out of it.

[@taxads7791]

@imalwaysright understand that, but the medicos must be in a position to rule him out. Either way, we cannot have this happening often, medicos are paid to do a job, the players are paid to do theirs, but just like we have with concussion, some decisions have to be taken out of players hands..

[@joshuawilliams994]

2:07 - "I'm responsible for putting myself out there by the way for people talking about medicos" - Petracca I'm sorry, but why is the player making the medical clearance decisions? In a workplace environment, an independent doctor has to provide you clearance to return to work. From a footy perspective, a concussion assessment is not the player's decision? Why should this be any different? Look at what happened to Fyfe. After he played on with his broken leg it took ages to recover and he's still nowhere near his peak (and will never return to that).

[@PulauSwan]

You've nailed it. Great contribution

[@sandrafowler6717]

They should install X-ray units at sporting grounds just like they've done at sporting grounds in the USA, that way the club doctors can see if there's any broken bones, just like broken ribs.

[@markdavey8809]

Seriously, Melbourne's Club Doctors couldn't work out he was seriously injured. C'mon people! Shake head several times and say Really!

[@knight2425]

Don’t forget the AFL is comfortable with it all also

[@New14LO]

Regardless of the score, regardless of the injury. If you have a player that is in clear discomfort and cannot contribute to the game in a meaningful way. Sending them out while having a medical sub for exactly this makes absolutely no sense at all and is irresponsible

[@thethriftbandit]

Dunstall, what a STUPID Call. Time to retire your Doctors Melbourne. Ridiculous

[@kimwilliams6104]

Really disgusting, I really enjoy our game, but Melbourne you stink and it seems to me you and your Team stand for Zero Christian, mate, do you think you are being well looked after......its only a game its not life and death, you have a life ahead look after yourself young fella Kim Swans Supporter But first a Christian

[@SleetMC_]

Wdym should’ve he returned to the field- bro almost died

[@Upthestars]

No? Thats worst case scenario

[@sandrafowler6717]

Get well Christian, don't worry about the footy just concentrate on getting better.

[@abhish2780]

AFL need to pony up and install xray units on the ground like NFL. This is about player health, stop being cheap and help the medicos out to make better decisions.

[@CHUCKALUCKALUCKA]

The medicos are either powerless or incompetent. - Punctured lung = easily detectable with a stethoscope - Broken rib = easily detectable with a physical exam (i.e. doctor pushes each individual rib to confirm swelling / acute pain) The current system fosters criminal negligence. If Petracca suffered a career-ending injury (or worse), the club and AFL are liable. Change.

[@imalwaysright]

are you a doctor? You don't think clubs are acutely aware of legal liability?

[@shannonbaron7302]

Don't worry you can live with half a lung and half a spleen. Just not for very long. You shortened this kids life for a stupid game.

[@mavphill]

...the bloke could have been killed. Luckily opposition players went easy on hin in 2nd Quarter.

[@billyhoyle2780]

Petracca made the call himself, king wouldn’t know, never won a hard ball in his life

[@Jaydoggie1]

And you are just some nuff from the internet Billy, Petracca shouldn’t be making the call that’s the issue.

[@billyhoyle2780]

@@Jaydoggie1quite ironic

[@kalebarancelovic]

What if what happened to Tom Lonegren happened to him yesterday? He'd be dead.

[@fletchercleeve5940]

He's a legend for going back out, tough as nails. I was sitting 5 metres from the interchange on monday and the bloke looked green as can be but he knew his team needed him. He got back out there to help them out and then Gawn is the only player that stands up. Speedy recovery Petracca. Also go pies sorry

[@jazactane]

Tough as nails Trac - clearly the incorrect decision in hindsight however I do not agree with Robbo that all players would do this, not everyone is as tough as that

[@Turley7471]

1989 Grand Final. Dipper played with broken ribs (thanks Gazza!) and a punctured lung. Happened before half time and he played out the match. Nearly died. AFL hasn't learnt a thing...

[@jakotae]

Typical that the Afl "signed it off".. makes a mockery of the 100k fine given to port. Typical Vic club bias.

[@mhbackman]

It’s not brave or courageous to play on when this injured, it’s stupid and completely unprofessional.

[@noelroberts8199]

I would not be surprised if the Melbourne supporters are going to say that Darcy Moore deliberately kneed Petracca in the ribs and should be suspended. We at the Pies lost a really good player to concussion in Nathan Murphy so don't keep whinging about Brayden Maynard, boo all you like it only makes him play better. These things happen in Footy, it is a contact sport......

[@A_R411]

'We at the pies' you work for the Collingwood football club do ya champ?

[@noelroberts8199]

No just a footy lover mate....

[@Comatosedpeanut]

I’ve already seen demons fans calling Moore a dog and said it was a dog act 😂

[@noelroberts8199]

@@Comatosedpeanut Seems your not allowed to touch a Melbourne player they might fall over and break......

[@robertgrant4532]

Any possibility that Darcy Moore knew what he was doing.

[@rhall2307]

no. next question...

[@MarkSmith-ym5td]

Seriously major respect for Collingwood players who could have destroyed him after he came back on and chose not to.

[@imalwaysright]

Most players aren’t grubs and are friends with one another.

[@Truthbomb101.]

​@paulkyriakopoulos3444 Wake up you don't understand footy. It is not natural to put your knee like that when coming from behind especially when you are a foot taller than your opponent. A dogs act from your captain. Either a dogs act or he is an uncoordinated giraffe. Choose one.

[@paulkyriakopoulos3444]

@@Truthbomb101. not my captain dpstk. Sounds like you have delayed concussion with that reply Mr know all. 😁😎😁😆😁

[@Truthbomb101.]

@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 Your captain Darcy Moore. What a captain hahahahahah

[@paulkyriakopoulos3444]

@@Truthbomb101. he ain't my captain dude lololololol you got it wrong 😆😆😆👍

[@patheticpear2897]

Pretracca trying to protect the medicos has actually just made them seem much worse, he has admitted that the medicos are compromised, do not take the players health as paramount importance and have chosen to work in an environment where health decisions can be put second over trying to win a game. Shame on the medicos for contributing to such a damaging and unethical environment.

[@bigbirdlp]

The whole fox footy team have spent the last 2 weeks carrying on about how soft Melbourne have been. Fast forward to this week and they are now criticising them for letting Petracca play while injured. Can't win

[@kossend1]

Because this one wasn't about hard or soft. This wasn't about Petracca at all really. Of course he wanted to go back out there but it shouldn't have been his call at that point. The medical staff inexplicably ignored what was plain to everyone watching and allowed him to go back out there.

[@carlositaliankitchen]

Protect the head.. But all other organs are fair game.Body shots are increasing why not it’s not a reportable incident and teams know it

[@FreddyJong-co6cb]

Lenny kravitz/Billy idol afl pre game entertainment grand final twilight/night 😂😂❤😂😂❤❤❤❤❤

[@lukerobinson87]

Im not sure who David King thinks he is🤔🤔men are capable of making there own disicion if they decide that footy is more important then there health in that moment i admire that its courageous its being a man no one has the right to tell a man what to do my respect for Petracca has only grown.

[@joejoe7580]

So you should scrap the scat test and let them back out with concussion if they choose to continue to play

[@lukerobinson87]

@AlbieAughtie 😂😂😂Well I guess opinions vary Albie I guess they should provide him with a therapists now to get past this trauma??? Everyone saying its only football they might be true but weak men are ruining the fabric of society so hats off to you Mr Patracca there is still hope.

[@lukerobinson87]

@AlbieAughtie 🙂😀😃😄😁thankyou Albie its true not all heros wear capes.....you made my day.

[@seedy80]

Welcome to 2024, where toughness and resilience are ridiculed by the soft underbelly of society. History doesn't remember the meek and sensible. It remembers the stupidity tough, brave, and reckless.

[@imalwaysright]

Welcome to 2024, where outrage merchants (with their tired slogans) conflate stupidity with toughness and resilience and intelligence is ridiculed by the soft underbelly sitting in their basements

[@seedy80]

@@imalwaysright you missed a comma.

[@adrak91]

outlaw the use of painkillers, pain exists for a reason to stop you doing more damage, without painkillers he wouldn't have been able to even attempt going back out

[@James-zj3ud]

The days of playing on with serious injuries as they might in the 90s, 80s and before are well and truly over - not worth the future health issues you'll have down the track just to finish a ball game knowing it could end up being 10 times worse with another bump

[@josiahriddington]

Dr. Robbo on 360

[@brupic8968]

tough guy. footy players rank with hockey with toughness when injured....not as tough as soccer players mind you. they've been known to carry on when somebody glares as them. not often, but it has happened.

[@FreddyJong-co6cb]

Time to talk twilight/night grand final 😂😂❤😂😂❤❤😂😂❤❤❤

[@jamesmcdonald8534]

The first thought that came to my mind watching the game on TV was the danger of a punctured lung and I'm no doctor, but the risk must have been obvious. Petracca was white with serious pain.

[@seanbrohman4138]

Darcy Moore's knees are causing havoc...even tonight

[@chrisbarraza7700]

We're in such a bad state in AFL if this is the key show in the sport. Just bad.

[@noahmurray-qv3ci]

it looks painfull the knee it's self was not needed

[@kazzah364]

He should have been taken to hospital

[@Spring732]

I wouldnt put my trust in those doctors...

[@BennosCamaro]

Australia just obsessed with over analysing the game

[@robertwynkoop7112]

Doctors absolutely at fault…. This isn’t an ankle or hand injury…..30 second video review shows them the location and violence of the impact. Immediate suspicion of rib, spleen and lung injury should have held, and until that is ruled out it is the doctors responsibility to protect the patient. Another hit could have caused him to internally bleed out or develop tension pneumothorax resulting in his death right there on the grounds. It is morally unjustifiable to put him at such risk. Shame on them!

[@richardandmaxinemc9126]

Putting him back on the field could have resulted in a catastrophic outcome. Let’s just be honest. Allowing him to return to the field when his face showed the real picture was a potentially life changing decison. Thank goodness he didn’t get hit again in that area. Of course players want to play at all costs. But the cost that may have come with further damage far outweighed the decision to let him go back on the field. Everyone could see on his face and his body language just how injured he was. Thank goodness he got to hospital eventually. A major lesson must be learned here regarding protocols for major injuries. I was so worried when he returns to the field and flabbergasted. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. It will be hard for a while but your health is everything. No game of footy is worth risking it.

[@GawainJohnstone]

The real contention here surrounds the worst case scenario given the severity of his injury. Since the doctors let him back on the field and didn't put their foot down, like a concussion - what if he cops a bump the wrong way and dies? Who's liable here? What would happen if the doctors had let someone back on the field after an assessed concussion? There needs to be better accountability here

[@ryanbenoit7996]

Just add more subs and lower the rotations cap. Stops the incentive for forcing players to go back out

[@rabbitmb55]

Aren't we talking about the wrong thing? How many serious injuries are caused by a raised knee in marking situations. How many head injuries? Rub it out!! The knee is a deadly weapon and nobody is questioning its use.

[@joejoe7580]

The only reason this gets ticked off is because there are no court cases happening based on type of negligence. I thought the AFL had evolved from the days where the biff was celebrated and players need to prove their toughness by recklessly exposing themselves to physical harm. Petracca held the second longest consecutive games streak for current players - for him to go down and writhe in pain , unable to get to his feet for minutes should have been enough for any competent medico to know his injury was more than just a bruise or cracked rib.

[@rod7139]

The Medicos should be dismissed immediately who allowed Petracca to over rule their authority.

[@brettmitchell1777]

Beyond negligence to allow a seriously injured player back on the ground.

[@99muddy99]

Robbo says the Medicos aren’t to be blamed, and then proceeds to say that the worst-case scenario is that Petracca could have died. He then suggests that Petracca was owed a duty of care which he didn’t receive and wants Whately to back him up.

[@patrickmaclean1524]

Unbelievable that he went back out. Absolutely shocking.

[@jackx410]

The doctor is there to literally deal with this sort of thing. Bad night for the medical team at Melbourne to allow Trac back on. Hope he recovers soon.

[@seanbuchanan5402]

I’m really new to AFL but that coach seems off / suss every time I see him .

[@Bigrig90]

As much as I dislike the Dee's, it is sad to see players get heavily injured like this.

[@JasonKnee-l7h]

Did Australia proud, keep fighting

[@jjd6137]

Trac is a top bloke. Hope he gets better soon.

[@shmick6079]

Courageous.

[@darylcumming7119]

Perhaps the player wanted to return to the field injuried?

[@knight2425]

Most players that are concussed feel the same also but the doctor has final say and if they do go back then the fines are huge so why should this be treated differently?

[@ross7423]

Just lucky I don't think any Pies players knew about him in that much pain, otherwise Maynard or someone would've tested his side and ran straight through him which could've put him in real trouble on the ground.

[@PulauSwan]

Yes, good point, Look what Maynard got away with , re: the Brayshaw incident , resulting in his playing career termination. Grinter would've smashed him, oh sorry, he played for Melbourne.

[@imalwaysright]

They knew, but they’re not grubs

[@daveredfern8258]

Crap! Moore clearly lined him up. Look at the replay, his knee aimed straight into the side of pettrecas,not from the back. How come no one is even looking into this. Now, he won't be back til next year at least. And Melbourne needs an investigation for lack of duty of Care to an injured player. This game is rubbish now anyway. To many idiots have changed the rules. It's toast.

[@leeuhmm9455]

You’re an oxymoron

[@jaisabai4155]

Dog act by Moore, who knew exactly what he was doing

[@shmick6079]

Fool.

[@eggmittens7055]

Dog act ? Man's best friend, loyal, no judgement, loving, and cute as a button ? I guess so 🤷‍♂️

[@ChristianComito-e7d]

Wow, Steve has made a friend. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Comatosedpeanut]

Melbourne supporters are easily the softest in the league, hands down.

[@TAW856]

🤡🤡🤡

[@johnkym-uo1gt]

Darcy Moore driving his knee into Petracca was a dog act. There was no reason for him to raise a knee in that context. Raising a knee is a protective measure used when you are in a vulnerable position, it should not be used in a sneaky fashion in order to hurt a key player. Darcy, you are better than that, you need to make amends.