Should Christians use the preferred pronouns of transgender individuals?

[@wardmccomiskey2401]

Well- not going to affirm any delusion. Speak the truth in love!!

[@KindlyKalen]

There is no delusion in gender dysphoria.

[@Diana-n-Jesus]

@@KindlyKalenGod created them male and female in the beginning :) Any mental deviation from what you have been created to be biologically is simply delusion in its finest form!

[@fosterfamilyfaith]

Yes… it’s a delusional state these people are in. Delusion. It’s a fitting word.

[@fosterfamilyfaith]

Delusional is exactly what these people are.

[@r-platt]

Please speak to the person, not their genitals.

[@HaroldGodwinson24]

This pastor should have referenced Genesis 1:27 and Matthew 19:4-5. Affirming the a delusion that someone has is encouraging and embracing their false sense of reality and lies. It also reinforces that God made a mistake when He didn’t. This Pastor is wrong. The only loving position to compassionately share the gospel and help them see the error of their ways and tell them they are wrong. We should hypothetically step on toes and point out their errors.

[@Nerdyy_kid]

But those two verses don’t say nun bout that

[@HaroldGodwinson24]

@@Nerdyy_kidThey reference how God created us male and female and how God created marriage to be between one man and one woman. You can either accept it or reject The Word of God.

[@r-platt]

@@HaroldGodwinson24 Did you forget that God cursed Adam and Eve? This world is filled with all manner of disease and deformity. Truth comes from Jesus and His Kingdom is not here. So why push the idea that this world is truth and our identity and faith are false? Beware the yeast of the Pharisees. They put rules above love.

[@twinville99]

For God's sake, seek Truth from the Word. Don't follow any man into hell. It's too important. Do Right and risk the consequences.

[@66KMT]

What in the world?!?!? 2 Timothy 4:2, "Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage-with great patience and careful instruction".

[@sassafras8677]

Can’t introduce Truth to someone while lying at the same time. Why does everyone think they need to improve on God, like He didn’t see this coming, we have it right in His word do not lie. Truth is love

[@KindlyKalen]

If you loved people, you’d respect their TRUE GENDER.

[@sassafras8677]

@@KindlyKalen "Love rejoices in Truth" God designates "true" gender

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalenYou can love someone and not see eye to eye on everything. You don’t have to change your views or agree with them to simply love them. The kind of language you use is very manipulative and coercive, which is the problem I have with people who think like you do.

[@KindlyKalen]

@@hithisismyusername I know, but I just want to have my pronouns respected and have my rights respected without being called a pedo and being harassed every day

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalen You have the same rights that I do. As far as having you “pronouns respected”, unfortunately you nor I have the right to dictate the speech of another. I’d love it if people referred to me as “your majesty”, but I can’t force them to do that, even if it would be harmless. Same goes for your pronouns. It’s easy to just accept that not everyone will see things your way and be willing to appease you. The world doesn’t revolve around any of us. You’ll be much happier when you stop trying to control what others think and say and just live your life.

[@shiningwaters9469]

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.-1 Corinthians 13:7 It is not loving to lie about God's beautiful creation of male and female which he called "very good". That is a HUGE disrespect to God. Saying that Christians who don't lie and "affirm" someone's lie about themselves is us trying to change their sinful behavior is such a strawman. That's not the purpose of refusing to use a persons "preferred pronouns". It's simply a refusal to lie. Secondly, we are called to "call out things that are wrong inside of people" in the sense that we suppose to use the Law to show people how exceedingly sinful their sins are so that they know why they are in need of a Savior.

[@KindlyKalen]

And the Bible verse you mentioned has ZERO correlation to transgenderism.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalenit can be applied here whether it specifically refers to it or not. Affirming someone is lying to them.

[@KindlyKalen]

@@hithisismyusername it isn’t, it’s making someone happy over their desired way to be referred to as.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalen it’s not my job or anyone else’s to make anyone happy, especially if what makes them happy requires me to lie, pretend, or go against my own beliefs and convictions.

[@KindlyKalen]

@@hithisismyusername I don’t lie or pretend

[@Threelittlebirdz-xk7xn]

It is not graceful to comply with someone who is lying to themselves about who and what they are

[@r-platt]

It's not wise to assume you know how others experience life.

[@Threelittlebirdz-xk7xn]

@@r-platt I have assumed nothing of kind, so stop projecting.

[@r-platt]

@@Threelittlebirdz-xk7xn Sorry. I thought you were incorrectly describing trans people.

[@jen4um]

Them is just another name for legion, for we are many.

[@WeWokeTheGiants]

No. God said obey his commandments, not the commandments of human beings.

[@KindlyKalen]

And god never said to not use someone’s preferred pronouns.

[@vshah1010]

You would think that if homosexuality or LGBT was an "abomination", it would be in the 10 commandments. Or, maybe make an 11th commandment. Also, God made Eve starting from Adam's rib (which has male DNA). So, by definition, God made Eve a transgender woman. This is very odd. If God created a transgender woman, one can conclude that he has to be okay with transgender people.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@vshah1010No, because it’s a sin just like any other sin. It’s no better or worse, but it is a sin.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalen While the Bible doesn't explicitly mention preferred pronouns, I believe that its teachings on gender and sexuality are clear and relevant to our understanding of human identity. By using sex-specific pronouns, I'm honoring God's creation and affirming the biblical teaching on gender. I understand that some people may not identify with their biological sex, but using sex-specific pronouns helps to maintain clarity and respect for the physical bodies that God created.

[@viclai007]

I am sorry to say this teaching has error. We should not give in to Sin. By agreeing to them in calling what pronoun they want we are agreeing with their sinful action. Instead we should point out and rebuke with wisdom and love. Imagine your young children beside you sees this and tell you they want to be called what they defines. Are you showing righteous example? No! Jesus said the first commandment is Love God and secondly Love your neighbour. He did not switch it around. So as the ten commandments. I means we focus on things that honours God first. No doing things that please men but gave disgrace to God in his creation. Gospel is meant to offend sinners, so they can repent to God. if your gospel made sinners feel good that is not the gospel of the bible.

[@gball310]

Amen!

[@66KMT]

Major error! 2 Timothy 4:2, which says, "Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage-with great patience and careful instruction".

[@stevehughes1510]

No, I don't need to affirm someone's internal struggle/turmoil(whatever that be) or have that person try to put me in the position of accepting their point of view, that's not helpful to the person at all and not the way I personally interact with others. I decide for myself how I talk, what I say and think.

[@KindlyKalen]

You should refer to trans people as their preferred pronouns, as your Bible/qu’ran/whatever says so.

[@stevehughes1510]

@@KindlyKalen There are passages in The Bible that say 'do not answer a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him yourself'. Trans is a social construct it's not real in terms of biology, science or human form. A thought without fact, an ideological fantasy.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalenNowhere in the Bible does it say to refer to people by their preferred pronouns and in quite certain the Quran doesn’t say such a thing either.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalen I will use pronouns according to a person’s biological sex. In most cases, they will not be present to hear it as I am speaking OF them not TO them. If speaking directly to them or of them in their presence, I have the option of just using their name or gender neutral pronouns like they and them. It’s not necessary nor mandatory to use preferred pronouns. I can still be civil and kind to a trans person without compromising my own beliefs and values.

[@KindlyKalen]

@@hithisismyusername “I am He”

[@Danae78]

I would prefer to extend grace personally, since it's been said to seek peace if at all possible. I just started a new job and my supervisor is a they. The first time I called her a she.. she belted out THEY at me. She apologized later but it's giving me anxiety in this new job😢. I'm constantly messing up my words and she thinks it's so easy, as she laughed at me. She even called me microaggression as a "joke"... which doesn't seem like a joke as I reflect later on it. So I'm thinking about moving on.

[@MegaTjane]

Extending grace may mean giving your supervisor grace when what she says or does impacts you negatively

[@lokpikr999]

This isn't even a religious issue. Unlike names or titles (which we actually address people with), pronouns are used as a descriptors in the third person, and therefore any requests as to which ones we should use in reference to someone are nothing but a narcissistic attempt to force society to adopt their self-perception.

[@stevematson4808]

This guy talks like he should be kept away from boy scouts.

[@atlma2]

That's a rude thing to say

[@fosterfamilyfaith]

Exactly right…. Don’t leave this dude alone with your kids!

[@randyharris5195]

We should love people but never, ever make excuses for Scripture. No, the Bible does not reference pronouns but it has plenty to say about associating ourselves as Christians with the way the world.

[@r-platt]

Yes! Trans people are rejecting the way of the world in favor of the mind, heart and soul. Trans people are evidence that God exists, that there's more to life than just having a body.

[@gball310]

Repent ye for the kingdom of God is at hand

[@1tribble]

I’m not going to lie to someone because it’s easier and makes them feel comfortable. The 10 commandments exist for a reason; they are not optional depending on someone’s feelings. Can I steal from a store if it makes me happy and comfortable? Is the church leading people to Christ or is secularism leading the church to hell?

[@TheStuffandthings]

Well this sucks. I was going to attack this video for not being very christian, like I did about 10 others, but I can't.

[@James.1_2-3]

Lol what

[@amandabarber5241]

This is the amazing pastor who years ago stood in front of his congregation and asked people to text in questions. An one, was, "what about gays an lesbians" (ok it's been awhile, I don't remember the exact words but that sums it up) an without any hesitation, he said "LOVE THEM!".

[@WeWokeTheGiants]

@@amandabarber5241 Loving them doesn't require disobeying God. God said obey his commandments, not their commandments.

[@johnnygreenway3579]

This is the problem in many churches. His answers were do what makes the other person feel good or happy. Not confronting sin is one reason so many are in hell now. Yes love All people, but don't condone sin.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@amandabarber5241it seems like he’s focusing to much on being progressive and “inclusivity” instead of teaching the hard truths that need to be taught.

[@KevinHammond1]

No respect for a soft pastor preaching to itching ears. If you can't use scripture to answer the question, then you're just feeding the church your opinions.

[@Threelittlebirdz-xk7xn]

Love should not lie.....the Bible tells us only 2 genders and marriage is between a man and woman. Bible says and gives examples of God's punishment for sinful lifestyles, sodom and Gomorrah, and interpretation of good and evil , right or wrong, love and hate are not defined by opinions. Preferred pronouns use does not help if it confirms someone's sinful lifestyle is wrong, using preferred pronouns is lying which makes me sin if I use them and if I truly have love for someone I should tell them when they are being bad, evil or wrong. That is my belief based on the Bible. Please show me where I am wrong if I am. God Bless.

[@MartyMcFly1085]

As a practicing child psychiatrist in the Midwest, I provide treatment for kids experiencing gender dysphoria. I can’t say strongly enough how dangerous and toxic the views shared on ”winsome” christian media such as this are to the most vulnerable of our youth. Regardless of how loving you may believe you present yourself, when you casually don’t recognize their preferred pronouns, you plant a seed of shame, shame for being thought of as an aberration in an otherwise cisgender world. Kids do not choose this for themselves. They were not “groomed” to be this way. They are rejected by their friends, they are bullied, and when they often feel like they can’t take it anymore, they are even rejected by their families. And to be clear, not affirming their core identity is a rejection, even if you follow this with “I love you.” Never tell a child that god doesn’t approve of their identity, that it is a sin. The harm is incalculable. Rather than condemning them to hell, please understand the hell they are already living in. If your core beliefs just can’t handle this, maybe you can be comforted by the fact that somebody else has almost certainly told them the “good news” of God’s conditional love already. This is not a “woke” or “Marxist” experience for these youth and their families, despite the echo chamber of this media assertion. Most people don’t know or understand that children that eventually receive hormone therapies have identified as a different gender starting from as young as age 3, sometimes even younger, and they maintain this view of themselves consistently for many years prior to deciding with parents to begin treatment as teens. They voice to me how much they hate their bodies and may show this by cutting themselves. They voice how sad they feel, how unfair it is that they can’t stop feeling this way. Many of them are religious, and despite infinite prayer, they feel the same. One child asked me why “everyone hates me, even God.” Studies have shown consistently that gonadal formation and gender identification in the brain are two completely different processes, influenced by many factors we don’t yet understand but includes the complex exposure of hormones in utero as well as genetics. The high risk of suicide of transgender and gender dysphoria in youth is not separated from the views shared on this channel. I understand that fundamentalist belief is unwavering in regard to “biblical truth.” Despite the religious view that gender is binary and objective, consider that truly objective study designs, as well as personal experience, shout that gender is anything but fixed and binary. Rather than judge and condemn, rather than state how God’s love can change them from their current abominable state, just hug them and affirm them without condition. If this is too blasphemous, then please just leave them alone and pray for them without expressing your views in person or in the media. At least then they have a better chance to grow up free of shame and depression.

[@susanbrown4297]

I am 75 and have come this far using regular English! This is a hocks. I follow my own road. If some one can’t understand my English, to bad unless they have hearing problems or some kind of mental issues. Maybe doesn’t speak English. I’m not taking the “pronouns route!!

[@KindlyKalen]

Okay pronouns aren’t just gendered, you also used pronouns atleast 5 times in this comment.

[@KindlyKalen]

Also, No harm is done when you call someone their preferred pronouns.

[@vshah1010]

Hello. I am in the science camp, not a religious one. Applying science, I would say that one is born with a particular gender. If you alter that, it does not change your gender. This is not disrespecting the person. It is just scientifically factual. So, a transgender woman is still a male since he was born male. The same thing applies to a transgender man.

[@KindlyKalen]

@@vshah1010 technically that is sex.

[@hithisismyusername]

@@KindlyKalenand no harm is done when you don’t.

[@Menyhard]

No never

[@KindlyKalen]

Your refusing to respect people.

[@tiffanysteen1845]

I’m in second camp

[@captainavem9441]

thanks Pastor Mark! been wanting to know this for quite a while, have a few lgbt friends in my life and a have known a few trans people before, and just didn't know how to take this issue on

[@fosterfamilyfaith]

Blind leading the blind…

[@fosterfamilyfaith]

Right… encouraging delusion is ‘service and grace’ says the effeminate “pastor”. This guy is exactly the type who’ll be spewed out for his lukewarm attitude toward sin vs the truth.

[@r-platt]

You clearly don't know what it means to be transgender. You speaking as if you do understand is dishonest at best. Do you want to speak with _truth_ or simplicity?

[@elizabethgrace2453]

Jesus' Love does not affirm sin though.

[@r-platt]

What sin?

[@Dave-if5qj]

If you play the pronouns game In the church it opens the door To all kinds of issues

[@recoveryreefing413]

Politicking