Should Demna Leave Balenciaga?

[@andrewpodolio59]

Despite how hit and miss his couture is, I thought it would inspire him to pivot into a more 'classical' aesthetic (as opposed to mainly focusing on 'streetwear') and his experimentation would bleed over into ready to wear (the couture t-shirt, the "frozen" wrinkled coats and shirts, etc.), but its just stretching him thinner. The couture is mediocre, the rtw is mediocre - he's stagnating like you said the aesthetic is get tiring and so are the gimmicks.

[@caleblatreille8224]

Can't believe you went the whole video for this particular collection without using the words "larger than life." I'm not generally a huge fan of what Denma's done at Balenciaga but contextualizing this work within Hollywood celebrity culture is one of the only places where it makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, he didn't get there until the format itself felt stale.

[@motoXcross.]

Yes

[@---Snaporaz---]

I like how critical of fashion you are and still part of the industry, I'm a "tourist" in fashion and for the same point you make in this and other videos, I don't see myself work in fashion. I think as in Art in general, is so hard to find genuine works well made and original, while the market rewards the opposite

[@KidCracken]

It's actually not that hard to find well made original art. Most people just don't care to. They just want the validated and curated selection.

[@kyrectx2]

does he not have ideas or does he just have a job that pays him millions to do the bare minimum and the confidence in his skills that if he gets fired he can put in real effort elsewhere and be fine denma seems to be doing the same ironic fashion he did at vestments at this point, it’s like he’s testing how much he can get away with with the consumers no logo hoodies and giant sneakers next collection the hoodies will have actually no logo just a blank hoodie, and the sneakers will be even bigger as long as it’s selling Kering doesn’t care i’m sure but eventually it won’t

[@KidCracken]

If it's a test, he should have realized he won years ago and the fans will eat up whatever he shits out. Dude survived a god damn nonce'overcy..

[@motoXcross.]

@@KidCrackenYOU WOULDNT KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BUYING. NOBODY KNOWS BUT THE OWNERS, FOR ALL WE KNOW THEY COULD BE SELLING VERY LITTLE RiGHT NOW… 😂 U CANNOT CRITICIZE BECAUSE U DONT KNOW THE ANSWER.

[@KidCracken]

@@motoXcross. I was talking about Demna, not Balenciaga. Most people who liked Demna before still like him now. I'm sure Balenciaga sales went down (they didn't even want to release the numbers at the end of last financial year lol), but it's mostly people who liked Balenciaga for the hype that jumped ship. Most of those hypies probably don't even know who Demna are.

[@jessieadore]

Seems like the subconscious expression of rich people wishing they were normal.

[@jessieadore]

And the soles represent the false stability of wealth lol

[@11kindpunk11]

That is it precisely

[@KidCracken]

In what place are these looks "normal"? Lol.

[@Allen-jd1nh]

@@KidCrackenLA, but I really don’t think it’s a look, it only makes sense in that LA weather, and you simple cant wear most things since it’s still 25 degrees right now

[@biigsquid]

@@Allen-jd1nh nope. this is the quintessential LA look. workout wear mixed in with designer accessories/shoes. big hoodie and leggings and big framed sunglasses,

[@padraiccosta4644]

Balenciaga need a new creative director it’s same bdsm and Hellraiser stuff every collection now he’s just adding fear of god sweatsuits and oversized uggs

[@ummmm7693]

You’re slow as fuck

[@miola2083]

Yes. Basically boring.

[@padraiccosta4644]

@@miola2083 big facts

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

its all satanic and pedophile clothes for rich sickos

[@arisumego]

@@miola2083 so much this. i never thought I would be saying this about Balenciaga under Demna but that is 100% what it is right now, just plain fucking boring. even Vetements under Guram is more interesting right now

[@_iboji]

Will never be the Balenciaga customer but I also enjoy his commitment to a bit. The borderless global digital "collective" doesn't actually care what the intention is. He can say its about the "craft" because arguably in late stage capitalism/consumerism it literally does not matter. He knows his core audience. Its really cynical (not sure how you earnestly get inspired by LA without coupling the hollow celebrity absurdity where people are notorious for no reason, the thing that really sharply defines the place) and I'm not sure I need him to be much else its enough of a damning acknowlegement. Everything will sell; the Erewhon collab , the stupid sneakers, and the plastic bag fabric dresses. If he actually offered a meaningful critique and challenge of the cultures we have stateside or made original clothes that didnt reflect the maddening reality of being a skilled and talented designer whose work gets lost in the seasonal churn idk where would he be?

[@KidCracken]

When was the last period of "late state capitalism"? What can you compare with that tells you we are in late state now? Periods are defined in the future, so technically we can't be in a period that has never happened before, because we don't know what the indicators are before it's been analyzed after it happened. Also don't most people that don't care about quality just buy shein hauls etc? Most people I see/hear talk about expensive clothes also talk about quality.

[@MayaKabat]

I wasn’t horrified by the scandal, myself, as it seemed more like a big stupid sloppy mistake to me. I still thought Demna should have stepped down and allowed the brand to reset. The gimmicks are really old and tired in my view.

[@jimjimgl3]

Steven Meisel did the Hollywood celebrity sloppy style in Italian Vogue 2005 Hollywood Style issue..

[@haute03]

That editorial is legendary. I remember seeing the full spread on TFS back in the day and loving every bit of it. So fun.

[@jimjimgl3]

@@haute03 Just another genius notch in Meisel's belt! He managed to make the images both fun and sexy...something lacking, unfortunately, from this Balenciaga runway show...

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

The Styles are way older L O L

[@seanyeo5514]

In the Kering group I felt that Demna and Alessandro constantly demonstrated a fascinating polarity with very similar concepts, like fashion students given the same brief but approaching it with entirely different dispositions. Both are obsessed with subcultural references and quite literal interpretations thereof, both favour unconventional-looking models, and this show is a parallel to Michele’s paean to Hollywood a couple of years ago. But Michele’s work is often earnest and just that - a paean. Demna’s always feels like a ransom note. Michele’s goths are romantic, Demna’s are anarchic. Michele looks to the past with rose tinted glasses, Demna to the future with dread. I think it’s easy to just say Michele has the easier job making literal pretty things while Demna has to subvert the prettiness - quite often when he attempts glamour it somehow always ends up very clunky - it’s a real art making fussy embroideries look effortless and light). So it just gets played off as ironic. This collection is yet another of those displays of irony. There’s a brilliant sardonic documentary about LA as a character in movies called Los Angeles Plays Itself, and in it the narrator feels that directors often pervert the original intentions of LA’s architectural iconography for the sake of sensationalising their films, and as such LA is martyred for our amusement. Demna does the same with Balenciaga’s legacy.

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

lol Future ? How are our old Styles Future ? How cute

[@jimjimgl3]

Full on daylight is not very kind to the runway. This felt like one of the least compelling and sexy shows I've seen in a long time.

[@Didi-m9b]

the long catwalk with wonky walking is not helping either...

[@jimjimgl3]

@@Didi-m9b Thought the same thing. The models prob wished they were getting paid per meter....

[@KidCracken]

Lol I was actually happy I could finally see the clothes instead of the usual black clothes in a dark room. It's not an art performance, it's a trade show, so let the customers see the goods lol. But then it was the usual 480p looking stream and I gave up. Why the hell can't a billion dollar company get a decent internet connection for their stream?!?! 😂

[@JovianRecords]

Though I appreciate & respect anyone’s opinion & their right to express it this is a tough listen cuz I think it’s much easier to speak about things while sitting at home with no risk involved nor no actual experience within a house of this magnitude. Demna is one of thee few designers who is actually a designer first. Critique & criticism has its place, but it’s not an art. It’s not creation. It’s sitting safe inside with zero risk while the true artists put it all on the line. I once heard “those who cannot create, critique” & I believe that’s as far as your opinion is valued. Valued by other spectators who do nothing, but spectate & find something to criticize to deflect from what they lack

[@KidCracken]

Balenciaga prices are going wild, the skiwear acrylic 3B beanie are €80 more expensive than the old 3B beanie and they look 100% identical. 🤦

[@DanLionDan]

My theory is since the scandal they raised prices so they can balance out the loss of sales knowing they can still bank on their core fan base

[@KidCracken]

@@DanLionDan it started before that. 2 years ago a beanie was about €240, then they raised it to €290 (old 3B price), then the Adidas collab was €370 and now the skiwear 3B is €415. (Prices are from memory so maybe not 100% correct)

[@DanLionDan]

@@KidCracken yes there has always been a gradual uptick, same with all brands, but a few seasons ago you could get a cashmere coat for like 4k aud, now it would cost 6k. Balenciaga especially has had very noticeable and more frequent price spikes than others that’s for sure, but as of recent it’s to the point where they’re almost trying to throw out any price and hope it sticks, praying their cult clients will buy whatever they give them. The recent-ish biker boots are a good example, they initially priced them at 5 digits, something like 12k, then after poor reception they came to their senses and dropped to 7.8 as they are now

[@KidCracken]

@@DanLionDan yeah but from my memory it really started skyrocketing a year before the controversy

[@violondon8776]

I am on the retail buying team for Balenciaga and I can tell you the US market is completely rejecting Balenciaga after the scandal. I think thats why they chose LA to win back the US clientele. I think for Balenicaga to recover, Demna needs to go.

[@Baalenciaga666]

😂 im sure you’re on the retail team spouting off online. Gtfo

[@violondon8776]

@@Baalenciaga666 lol you're so cute

[@burgersuperking]

I don't get why he was not removed after the scandal? What is the reasoning for that?

[@fixed6354]

Demna has a cult fanbase

[@JellyFlavoredGerman]

because it didn't really have anything to do with him. Balenciaga is a big company. He's the creative director of the product, he's not in charge of marketing and photoshoots.

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

baalenciaga is a satanic pedo group

[@SoaringSpear]

Also the giant uggs look so impossible to walk in LOL

[@vladislavachalei5120]

I feel like there are two Balenciagas - this and what Renata Litvinova wears, the vintage-inspired couture. And the two don’t compute in my head anymore.

[@SoaringSpear]

Although the erewhon stuff gives MERCH, that’s honestly what Balenciaga feels to me in general. It just feel like merch of some vibe, not actually good clothing

[@sherrillsturm7240]

The shoes are a joke. These are professional walkers, and they can barely keep upright.

[@SoaringSpear]

And to me, even before the controversy, his designs were going way downhill

[@jamest9666]

love video man but I think it's crucial to remember that Demna is now working for a company and no longer has complete creative and marketing control over his own brand. Taking a quote from old shows and using it against new ones might be a bit arrogant. Runways need to have a concept and meaning that influences clothing designs. In this case, the LA collection is obviously about hype, with clear nods to celebrities in the outfits, like Isn't that dude rocking the washed purple hoodie, long tee, and big black boots totally Kanye? And come on, that couple with the girl in the dress and the dude in the full sweatsuit - no doubt it's the Biebers. The collection is practically screaming celebrity and hype vibes, not craftmanship ethos. Critiquing this collection without considering that aspect is like watching a Transformers movie and complaining about it when you already knew what to expect. The collection is rooted in LA culture, so expecting couture dresses from old Balenciaga is unrealistic. It's more about capturing the vibe of the city, hence the focus on celebrity looks. While this collection might be seen as a dip in design status, it presents a lucrative opportunity for the brand with simpler designs. Demna's position at Balenciaga is not as flexible as when he had his own brand, and the pressure to deliver multiple collections per year is evident, despite his discussions about sustainability, the company makes him produce so much that it's obvious that some of it will be simple and repetitive.I get how runways have this whole formula, and Demna mentions that the only time he feels completely free is in haute couture. It seems like the streetwear, big jackets, and ending with couture-quality dresses is Balenciaga's money-making strategy, and I get why that might not be everyone's cup of tea. But let's not put the blame on Demna for that. The fact that you liked the last dress show this concept perfectly, they give the customer a teaser for couture, where since he has the most creative control he is able to create interesting designs really based on craftmanship, designs where we can actually see more clearly Demnas creative vision and design progress. I'm sorry if my english isn't perfect, but i'm italian. And just to clarify, I'm not exactly a die-hard Demna fan; I just dig his streetwear because they're easy to pull off at home and perfect for everyday wear. Being a fashion design student, it's right up my alley, i can create my basics with balenciaga fits and even better quality textiles. One last thing before I leave: in Fall 2023, everyone was throwing shade at Demna, saying he's kissing ass after the whole scandal and missing the old Vetements vibe. Now that the Vetements vibe is back with the last two shows, I'm seeing comments like, "I was hoping the brand would stick with the Winter 23 collection aesthetic." Seriously, y'all will never be satisfied, I swear.

[@easyyeye]

I find da LA health space a funny facet. Dey get surgeries den promote health as if da surgeries doesn’t give em a notch above da rest. Makes sense Demna enjoys da culture. As his words convey one message, yet his actions say something else😂. Demna would be a great politician lls

[@AgathaHerpes]

Da dummy has spoken

[@easyyeye]

@@AgathaHerpes lol elaborate on Whts dumb

[@prettynpetty8342]

If there was ever a modern retelling of the movie Frankenstein, the monster would defintitely be dressed in Balenciaga. Demna has what I like to call "Frankenstein aesthetic". Demna's vision makes me uncomfortable, sometimes laughable, and I would never wear it, but it's totally unique. You can tell when someone's wearing these clothes that it's Demna's Balenciaga, and that's what's probably drawing in the Hollywood crowd.

[@burgersuperking]

Many people interpret Demna's work as some sort of social commentary, I think its just marketing bs, he comes off to me as some sort of Eastern European fashion designer version of Clive Barker, and his designs are just a snapshot of his personal Midian or Leviathan domain

[@jimjimgl3]

Honestly, I think it is just laziness or boredom. His designs are, well for me, not engaging. Like he is asking you or daring you to criticize his work...@@burgersuperking

[@TaouiOnline]

Comes of as the social elites trying to push homeless styles to normal people and they pay insanely prices to look like homeless people. I think its just scam and rich people laughing their asses of

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

lol Modern Unique VVow

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

It's fascinating how our Cultures old Styles are seen as unique Decades later VVhat an utterly fvcking weird erasing era lol

[@plentyofmalk9130]

Yes. He should. And take his 'inspiration comes from everywhere' (somehow only people from the banlieues, his lesser known industry peers, and rich 20 year prank TikTokers though) schtick with him.

[@user-cd1je7vu1h]

Those sneakers are hideous and I love their sneakers usually

[@GcQfashion]

Demna Gvasalia = fashion’s Tim Cook

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

more like Jony Ive

[@mattusandreasen4813]

thought kim k cancelled balenciaga lol. talking about not supporting 'paedophilea' for her kids yet still supporting it

[@FashionRoadman]

I mean Kim Kardashian will say anything that makes her look good from a PR standpoint but then you see her right back embedded into the brand acting like nothing happened. That’s why I take everything she says with a grain of salt

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

those satanic hollywood pedos are a bunch of sellouts, you can never trust a celebrity like you can never trust your government, politicians, etc. they're all one big secret club

[@ALB3R701]

Trite, tired and stale this man hasn’t done anything remotely interesting in years. The gimmicks have worn thin and he can’t seem to move past them. How many more oversized things can we see, where is the new, and none of this seems to have a life past six months these are not pieces one wears for long periods. These garments are not building blocks of a wardrobe, he says it isn’t a joke but his work does not follow the same tune. Kerring should have ditched him after the scandal, quite frankly one does not come back from something like that. The sale numbers can’t be good either because in ALL of the department stores I’ve visited for my holiday shopping Balenciaga has been what’s lining the sales rack (right next to the Victoria Beckham). He talks big but in the end he doesn’t make anything worth it, the modern interpretations of mid century couture garments he showed for his first couture collection have disappeared, the fabrics are just some variant of shiny or satin polyester. Who’s paying thousands of dollars for polyester? As for his take on LA…. well it’s about 5 years too late the general public fell out of love with celebrity culture during the height of the pandemic lockdowns (idk why Erewhon got dragged into this their hot bar is actually pretty good) there’s nothing new to add. We all know the girlies call the HollywoodFix guy for their pap walk. What’s new to say here “LA is real fake, it’s real about being fake”. That take was fresh when I was in middle school. It’s all just one tragic comedy where no one is laughing. As for the celebs pushing this I sure hope the cheque was worth it.

[@goldappleberry]

Put the Cristóbal back into Balenciaga

[@samsopretty]

The show felt lazy, uninspired and cheap. He threw this together after one day of people watching in Hollywood. He didn't work for this paycheck at all. Balenciaga is a joke.

[@Hashisan_Murakami]

i should say He needs to Quit not Leave

[@franciscolealgonzalez1333]

He should definitely go.

[@yoonytakeuchi]

I love Erewhon, but I wouldn't be caught dead wearing one of those merch bags. lol

[@Matthew-404]

I was really hoping that the brand would lean more into the aesthetic seen in the Winter 23 collection, but it seems that's never going to happen. Both Summer 24 and Fall 24 are very similar to each other, from the boxy blazers to the hybrid pants. Overall these designs seem quite tired, but I suppose if you like them then you're in luck.

[@anneneamontis4345]

Actually I can resonate with a lot of these sport/pilates health conscious looks. I would wear those sneakers to uplift what I wear going to Pilates. In fact I love to look interesting going to the gym it's actually motivational. I live in Australia where we love the outdoors and love sports. Also I loved those body conscious slinky dresses that I would definitely wear, they are not boring and have a nice vibe about them. Overall, thees looks may not be for everyone but when I am travelling next to LA I would definitely like to wear some of these clothes.

[@hhhenge]

Demna is out of juice. I think if he left Balenciaga and started some new thing we could get excited again. I wouldn't want to see him 'go back' to vete (even if he could)

[@Tommaso_Squarzoni]

I do hope so

[@GarboMystique]

He Kills Cristobal Balenciaga with every show

[@LuisRivas-z4u]

great commentary

[@hollygrace6814]

yes, he should.

[@chickface8157]

I agree he gave us nothing. I mean a apron dress seriously

[@BendiFaguette]

He should’ve gone with Lassens 😏

[@RR-ob8ze]

Erewhon is bougier

[@TalkingTina]

@BendiFaguette Yup 100% this Demna Kanye clownery woulda paired more believably with Lassens health food Christo Fascism haha 💯🔥🔥

[@cordulam]

Pilates classes aren't expensive. But the original Pilates is quite different, not gymnastic, but physiotherapy. It is done with one client at a time and requires a special treatment couch with a wooden structure on top (and all kinds of equipment for different exercises).

[@miloligons25]

Hideous and bizarre would be more fitting.

[@nicolem889]

i liked the show. it wasnt wearable but it told a story, and many designers do not. i knew people who dressed sleazy scheezy like this. i used to wonder why. in 2012 they lived for free with me at my apartment in bushwick, and would leave in the middle of the night to go out without me. they were too nice to be users, but would not invite me out. i think i was too clean cut. i didnt do drugs (then). this is how they used to dress. they wore weird, soft, plushy clothes in off white tones. nothing fit their bodies.

[@burgersuperking]

TBH who cares, I'm more interested how Kering is going to supercharge YSL, brand is undergoing a slow rebranding for a last 2 years, and now they opened a new big store in Paris, with a design concept different from Slimane's - new one looks more like German Bauhaus stuff, akin to a place for SS24 mens collection, and it goes together with the overall reference to The Hunger.

[@chigal0926]

I have never been a fan of Demna. I generally don’t believe has been a positive for Balenciaga. This collection is stale to me. I am tired of high end sportswear.

[@yokchew90]

Fashion itself is ironic, we want something new and different but we try to keep it simple? Why can't we be in a colorful world? Like how we are so excited about all the different vibrant colours when we are kids?

[@KidCracken]

Cos 95% of people don't want to stand out, so they just wear neutral colors

[@tristanalvarado8014]

Was vibing until u said the thing about it’s obvious it’s not about the craft lol,

[@shroompoleon]

I feel like demna should leave balenciaga and start his own brand again, id love to support demna and his work but I ain’t giving no money to balenciaga

[@MADOUT_VPS]

Wasn’t Demna behind the pedo advertisement?

[@HunterDimaio]

Balenciaga usto be a high fashion designer label, balenciaga produced some incredible stuff, they need to look back at old collections and compare to nowadays. Im sure Tshirts sell better but who wants to be a tshirt company instead of a couture designer brand like wow. 😅

[@BaroqueChapel]

unrelated but can you link your fragrance channel? i watched a video from there once and i would like to see others but i forgot the name of the channel!

[@foxycinnamon7307]

Yeah...he's done. Next!

[@DianaMoroLopez]

While I appreciate your distinct and elaborate point of view, I'd like to point out that Demnas work is mainly conceptual, so, in my opinion, it is not so much about the craft (despite him saying so, I agree with you that it is a contradiction), but about an aesthetic and theoretical idea. With the hoodies and athleisurewear, he is drawing a picture of what he wants to say. The pieces themselves serve as tools of communication, not so much as signs of his craft and prowess. He is just not, say, someone like Matthieu Blazy at Bottega, nor should he try to, in my opinion. Demna, in my eyes, is a disruptor, someone who challenges us, and in his way, pushes things forward. I respect that, despite the scandal, which I don't fully comprehend until today.

[@isaiahkulakevich9058]

I cannot imagine what a nightmare it will be for the next designer who takes the reigns at the house😅

[@raw8814]

No one could do worse than post gesq wang😂

[@notpreciousdee]

Same because as of now I don't think anyone is taking Balenciaga serious lmao

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

It's like Trump entering the white house and fixing all of obama's mistakes

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

Imitation of old styles VVOVV Amaziiiiiiiiiin

[@salamance2]

Definitely, he had a good run, but Id rather see a new take on Balenciaga, than cranking up the shock value edginess every year by putting an extra X to the XXXL clothing. He could do well in Givenchy or other brands, I think we could see a new revitalisation as well.

[@cheetonips6399]

Demna has fully completed his path as a designer, like his own brand of design, now the mainline is wacky shoes and hoodies with the odd cool piece while he focuses on the yearly couture outing

[@Nicegrrl1]

Honestly, I wouldn't wear any of this even if it was given to me for free.

[@ruinedtv3186]

I mean some of it..

[@Nicegrrl1]

@ruinedtv3186 I mean none of it...

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

these are satanic pedo clothes for the crazies

[@themodel05]

Demna needs to leave Balenciaga and go back to Vetements or start his own label because he has a cult following from before BALENCIAGA isn’t doing anything new or indifferent and it’s run it’s course And let’s be clear for everyone who doesn’t know; the first collection under Demna for BALENCIAGA Was Not designed by him!!!!!! It was designed by Martine Rose & Demna got the credit!!!!! I don’t quite understand why the executives at Kering won’t get rid of him especially in the midst of their scandal Screw the critiques there’s nothing here that new, the fur boots are a rip off of the UGG boots And we’ve seen track suits from everyone so that’s not groundbreaking 🙄 so stop with that narrative We don’t care and BALENCIAGA is ruined!! It’s not a streetwear house It’s Haute Couture

[@sararichardson737]

Loving the wacky walks! Hilarious. Demna is having a laugh. Good on him.

[@moseslloyd6944]

And dolce & Gabbana did the coffee cup too😊

[@IAMYDL]

Maybe the gag is Demna wants to be canonised as the designer responsible for the dilution & transformation of Balenciaga’s purist fashion legacy. The ultimate F U whilst securing a fat cheque

[@RR-ob8ze]

Jace from LA here, I can tell all the real fashionable people are over the all black/y2k baggy denim look over here. It’s become a costume at this point. I think what’s lowkey hip here are slimmer silhouettes and skinny/fashion forward looks but more on the elegant side and less on the streetwear side. Also tie-dye. I’m definitely pushing for more Hedi Slimane type vibes in my circle, baggy clothes are out/played out. Skinny’s gonna be in and I’m staying ahead of the curve by rocking it before it’s mainstream, I would encourage everyone to invest in a slim fitting suit/blazer and elegant versions of “hippie/indi-clothing” think 80’s if they mixed with late 60’s/70’s.

[@KidCracken]

Well if it wasn't for this show, people wouldn't really be looking at LA fashion for new trends anyway.

[@RR-ob8ze]

@@KidCrackennah, hedi slimane , when designing for specifically, Dior, lived off of the looks from the indi-rock scene that started in LA through small Indi record companies like the now defunct Burger Records. Enfants Riche Deprime, another hip popular label right now is based and get their vibes from 60’s-contemporary LA fashion. LA been fashionable. We’re just lowkey about it because the weather doesn’t allow for much layering/experimentation during the day.

[@KidCracken]

@@RR-ob8ze so Hedi used that inspiration 20 years ago and ERD are inspired by stuff from 60 years ago. My point was nobody are looking at LA fashion as it is now, for trends.

[@RR-ob8ze]

@@KidCrackenoh okay. I see your point now. Well in your opinion where are people getting their fashion trends/looks from today?

[@motoXcross.]

@@RR-ob8zeu couldn’t answer that question even if u took 1 year.

[@saran42yu]

Demna and galliano just need to swap houses rn

[@arisumego]

fuck no

[@nigelseaton8367]

Can we please say prayers to the really good sales associates , because I know they still exist, who have to try to convince the clients that they need this. Which judging by the silhouettes may already be in their wardrobes.

[@ulischroder7618]

every balenciaga season has its statement and top seller items not many other brands can do that

[@YouTuber-vy7hq]

Miuccia is one of the few designers that can radically change the design and perspective of her collections every season while always somehow still having a Prada-ness

[@tzegoh333]

The best way to get past a scandal is ... ... another scandal !!!!!!!!

[@DP-gr7ko]

Honestly I thought demna was going to leave Balenciaga after spring 24 because that collection felt like a last harah to me, really liked this collection though 🤷‍♂️

[@shaneho4262]

To me this is the worst show ive seen from Demna. The clothes are boring, and they went back to associating the brand heavily with celebrities. meanwhile the price of the sneakers has gone up to 1500usd per pair

[@migu2906]

I belive demna is purposely trolling the whole rich ppl scene in the us haha

[@yokchew90]

For me i dont really look at how he dressed the models. I try to find clothes that feel or drape on my body slightly different. i dont expect an entirely different silhouette because is difficult. I just look at the items seperately where i can style them in my own way according to where i live and how everyone else around me dress. To me being slightly different from the peers is prefered rather than you look like you are trying very hard to be different

[@Boredblacksheep]

1000$ for a pair of sneakers? I hope that they do Pilates instead of me and I get fit for that money

[@arisumego]

Balenciaga under Demna used to be super exciting but like for the past four years it has been so fucking boring it's unbelievable I swear to God I walk into the stores from time to time and it's like I'm walking into a Balenciaga store from 4-5 years ago. I don't know what's going on with him but it feels like he probably should've left four years ago because he is either out of ideas and on autopilot or not putting any effort in at all and coasting by on his million dollar salary

[@JossyFoop]

LA 🤝 Demna’s Balenciaga Quagmire Be it the scandal, Dmena’s career since Vestments first season; the keyword is quagmire, it’s corpse, it’s re-animation. In its inception Demna’s work bore trend after trend. It was ugly chic turned cerulean blue. Ultimately his work has only ever been measured by his ability to bare new trends. The issue is, is that he is a one trick pony who has perfected that trick.

[@kutiek9699]

Do you think there will be a switch from so much athleisure? I feel like it's getting played out. I'm not a fan of sneakers on the runway. If I'm paying these prices, I want to actually get dressed, not dress like Im going to the mailbox.

[@Ch4r20]

No. I love you demna

[@DanzaTheDon]

Ihr dürft jera nicht vergessen, ist auf jeden Fall mindestens ein A

[@PhillipDrumz]

Man those shoes are big af

[@anikajoy5739]

So your just not going to mention those giant shoes? How rich people WALK ALL OVER everyone 🙄 Maybe he is trying to show us the rich/anything to be famous/ LA type people are the ones we should be connecting to their child corn scandal .

[@alvinanis3006]

I think you're onto something. During 2016-2020 maybe his collections would have landed, but we're still seeing the same tiresome ironic fashion that he's been making since Vetements, and there's hardly any new innovations in his collections.

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

VVere there ever ? lmao

[@design4leathercom739]

shoes could not be uglier

[@djillusii7333]

I think his perspective is also from living in LA

[@PromoCodeLady]

We do need shoes thick enough to prevent all of the dog and human feces and snot spit all over the dirty sidewalks. I can never wear sandals or any clothing that drags on the ground ever without wearing socks at the same time or tying up the bottom of all ground length apparel in LA. It is horrible being that I have grown up wearing long pants, dresses, white and opened toed shoes without getting violated by human and or animal fluid waste my entire life coming from different states.

[@mveerag3823]

the last look is Gareth Pugh.

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

gareth pugh imitated old styles

[@morpheuslaughing]

Demna playing the "oh no I'm totally serious" while making a joke card (irony + cynicism). I see his designs as campy and cartoonishly ridiculous in like an absurdist way. Only downside of this approach is once it becomes expected you cant break away from it and have to accept dying on that hill. Real talk, if you drop 1.5K on sneakers you don't have real problems

[@leewatkins6577]

Bring it out TopCat

[@Venenos-Dacqué]

Craft? No. On the other hand, today we’re primarily consumers of signs, and references attract more than what’s being referred to, unfortunately. Do fashion followers really care or appreciate, for instance, the paintings of Pontorno (Loewe SS22)? Fashion is a lie, an ‘exercise in futility’, and it can also be appreciated as such. A futile collection referencing the futility of celebrity culture? How decadent! As fascinating as LA is. Demna can stay.

[@OkOk-ix3vp]

LA is interesting but in a gross way

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

He meant WITCHCRAFT, balenciaga caters to the rich satanic pedos

[@omarmyia]

"Should Demna leave Balenciaga?" - some dude wearing Arcteryx

[@jimjimgl3]

LA "culture"...🤪

[@FashionRoadman]

I do find it crazy that LA culture usually gets reduced to “what celebrities do” by designers when LA is actually a very vast place with people from all walks of life and a massive homelessness issue.

[@jimjimgl3]

@@FashionRoadman But the overarching characteristic of LA is celebrity. I used to work in publishing (years ago) and when I would go out for photo shoots people placed (sometimes subconsciously and sometimes not) capital on how many people away from a celebrity a person was. "Oh. She is the sister of the woman who delivers lunch to Tom Cruise..." "His boyfriend is the roommate of the guy who cuts Renée Zellweger's hair..." "She is the bookkeeper of the architect who designed Brad Pitt's last house..." It is totally insane and for me completely uninteresting. I'm sure Dema has fallen for this and it is reflected in his work(for me banal like the celebrity world) and his love for LA. But I agree. LA is so much more than what celebrities do or wear. The Kardashian complex is such a minuscule part of how LA goes about its daily life--including the life and work of very creative artists and business thinkers--but for 95% of the planet that is what is seen and believed.

[@jimjimgl3]

@@FashionRoadman And the weather is superb.....!

[@AsmrBySancTum]

Point blank period. Demna should not and will not leave.

[@shaneho4262]

The “exclusive” release is totally rubbish . The “no logo” series is going straight to greymarket accounts. Theyhad done many great no logo items over the years, such as muddy hoodie worn by Bella in the mud show. But this is not it

[@user-cd1je7vu1h]

He should, time for new not regenerated stuff

[@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb]

He never did new stuff You mo rons L O L

[@TripleVortex]

Balenciaga should be about FORM and silhouette. He needs to start playing with the archives. These clothes are just so so plain and basic.

[@fleshfactoryy]

Demna's work has fell off since the scandal bc the company that owns Balenciaga put a lot more restrictions on the subject matter he can work with/ what kind of stuff he can do in general. I'm guessing it will lead to him going to work elsewhere where he has more creative freedom

[@MindBodyofHuman]

This is why SHEIN is singlehandly killing the market

[@sentiasatransformasi]

at this point I think its no surprise if demna got caught doing satanic pedo rituals n sold his soul bcs there is no way that a designer could get away w continuously designing items that already directly destroys balenciaga’s chic n classy reputation n never got fired

[@coyia234]

Tbh these are get outta debt designs. Like somewhere maybe they need the funds since yesterday and they told his ass create straight merchandise. Also they just need to hire someone new it’s done for him

[@PettyPebbles38]

Didn’t they just have a scandal?