Should DJI Worry? Fatshark Walksnail Avatar Dominator HD Digital FPV system

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@DRONESSUCK
@DRONESSUCK 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that frame at 9:49 looks like it fits all modern hd and analog vtxs really easily and looks incredibly durable, im excited to find out more about it.
@RLeeVisuals
@RLeeVisuals 2 жыл бұрын
Heard it’s called The Royale
@shellbournian
@shellbournian 2 жыл бұрын
wide compatibility? how dare you convenience us. we're supposed to pigeon holed into mediocre options as punishment for not flying flavor of the week parts.
@gunnyp8272
@gunnyp8272 2 жыл бұрын
Go smoke weed and never use the word "durable" again.
@craigsaunders3532
@craigsaunders3532 2 жыл бұрын
Looks a sweet frame can't wait to get my hands on one.
@basementfpv4836
@basementfpv4836 2 жыл бұрын
damn bot u took the words right out of my mouth!
@FattyFPV
@FattyFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on being the ONLY person on YT that can actually focus on items placed in front of the camera. Huge win.
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Sony
@bp328i
@bp328i 2 жыл бұрын
For the price they’re asking they’ve got a long long way to go before DJI should be worried. But it’s always good to have competition.
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno 2 жыл бұрын
Competition is great, but we also need cross compatibility in the "HD" realm.
@JohnFHendry
@JohnFHendry 2 жыл бұрын
Agree... but cross compatibility requires agreement in a competitive market where even getting a standard established for a basic simple battery connector now "mostly" the XT30,60,90 series has left us without a high amp 1S 90C connecter (XT15, 10 would be nice) with GNB Batteries replacing both versions of the GNB27 and going back to the gosh awful PH2 connector that was not designed to be a battery connector.
@DroneSkinz
@DroneSkinz 2 жыл бұрын
That "clear smear" effect is what's holding me back. Bardwell recently updated firmware and the difference was clearly night and day. I desperately want to switch over to digital so time will tell. Thanks Tommy for the hard work. You're still my hero!
@djSpinege
@djSpinege 2 жыл бұрын
you can tell even people who are sponsored by Fatshark are not feeling the smear effect. hopefully we see some big firmware updates much like DJI that solve it.
@FPVPRINTS
@FPVPRINTS 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy's Reviews are the best. That is all
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
thanks dude!
@mikespeedyfpv321
@mikespeedyfpv321 2 жыл бұрын
Best Review so Far on this system One Love I will be Sticking with DJI. It Gets the Job Done
@mikespeedyfpv321
@mikespeedyfpv321 2 жыл бұрын
One Love
@loiczeq5551
@loiczeq5551 2 жыл бұрын
Hi is there any possible way to fly it with micros? I mean whoops and stuff.
@marinehm
@marinehm 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Review. Eventually, HD will be in everyone's hands. I'm sticking with FS. Let's wait for them to do updates. They will get there!
@cheako91155
@cheako91155 2 жыл бұрын
16:50 This does not sound clear to me, I'm new to the hobby. In analog, I assume the OSD is added to the video feed that comes from the drone. Meaning, you couldn't have a second receiver record clean video, as the color/pixel data behind the text is lost. For that reason it's beneficial to have telemetry be received(closed caption/subcarrier?) and interpreted by the goggles, so for example clean video can be sent out an HDMI port as well as the ability to have a *second receiver getting clean feeds. * I envision a DVR that grabs and records everything it understands.
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 2 жыл бұрын
Still rocking my v1's, holding out for the v3's! 😄
@Freebird_67
@Freebird_67 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I'm definitely no DJI fanboy but man there system just works well period. I have 2 sets of goggles/V1 &V2 and love them! Would like canvas mode on my DJI for my fixedwing flying but I have work arounds for those missing osd characters.
@cisnerosmike
@cisnerosmike 2 жыл бұрын
Holding out for v3 as well however, being on that DJI ecosystem upgrade every 2-3yrs kinda suxs!! What to do...Fatshark, DJI or HD Zero??
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 2 жыл бұрын
I actually don't mind any payment hurdles I simply want the best. Sure upgrade every few years that's ok if the jump in quality is worth it. In another few years maybe we will see a 4K live stream and the money will probably fly out of my pocket on it's own. 😂
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 2 жыл бұрын
Canvas mode is here now for v1 and v2. It's a bit hacky right now but it will be part of the recently released patcher as a checkbox enablable feature eventually.
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 2 жыл бұрын
It's here now at the click of a button see my channel. Live audio, osd, 60mbps mode and more!
@shadowofchaos8932
@shadowofchaos8932 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooo. That BotGrinder frame looks siiiiicccckkk! Did someone get invisaline? It sounds like you have a lisp with the tray in. HDZero hopefully will be better. DJI goggles also can be worn with glasses on. The dominator doesn't look like it can.
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
LOL yes... the Invisalign has been plaguing my ability to talk
@LilwickedFpv
@LilwickedFpv 2 жыл бұрын
Great review fantastic. but I’m going to stick to the DJI system for now 🤔as for you I think you made a great choice as well 🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️😎👌🏽 keep up the great work
@leonardoondoy5619
@leonardoondoy5619 Жыл бұрын
Can we used the dji googles v2 with walksnail avatar?
@originafreerangechicken
@originafreerangechicken 2 жыл бұрын
Walksnail, cool cool, but let’s talk more about THAT BG FRAME!! When??
@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf
@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome info Tommy 👍👍 But to sum up I would say if you want a reliable system that works great buy DJI. Or buy something that's not quite finished yet and has a pretty bad image quality, then by Fatsharks HD / the rest...
@jefffpv2759
@jefffpv2759 2 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to dji when they first released the fpv system? Most reviews initially said it wasn't really ready yet.
@amen_ra6926
@amen_ra6926 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not clear on the latency thing. Are people referring to a delay between the stick input and the quad's movement? Maybe because I'm old but I see so such lag. It's pretty much instant.
@radchoyfpv9758
@radchoyfpv9758 2 жыл бұрын
how is it when flying with others tho? like do you need 20ft of seperation between each other to fly together?
@edgefpv4410
@edgefpv4410 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy for reviewing this. Still using analog because I am still not sure about DJI. Can't wait to see if it is worth it after firmware.
@adeptfpv6765
@adeptfpv6765 2 жыл бұрын
When does botgrinders frame drop?
@k4x4map46
@k4x4map46 2 жыл бұрын
With Fatshark, do you need to create an account, update the XXware prior to using the goggles?
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
nope just download it and move it to the SD card
@k4x4map46
@k4x4map46 2 жыл бұрын
@@ummagawdFPV OOOh copy that!! likey likey!! Thanks!
@TheDiegoAranda
@TheDiegoAranda 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, Tommy. I was waiting for it, as I believe you are probably the most fair and unbiased professional pilot reviewer in the FPV community, as to my knowledge you aren't being paid by Rotor Riot or Red Cat Holdings. Two questions please: 1) If you had to buy either DJI or the Avatar system at *this point in time*, which would it be (also taking into account that DJI is actually less expensive)? and 2) You're a professional pilot - at *this point in time*, would you trust the Avatar system on a cinelifter or any FPV quad being used for mission-critical professional filming?
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Diego! If I wasn't already heavily invested in DJI and I was able to review/test both systems AS OF TODAY. I would go DJI. As for your second question, I haven't been able to test the system on set in the professional world so I don't know how it behaves along side the myriad of things that are transmitting (like a teradek or microlite). If the Avatar system proves to be more resilient under the noisy RF environments on set, then I would choose it over DJI.
@ShermanKenB
@ShermanKenB 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still flying analog and looking at all of the options. One of the things for me that's a ding for DJI is that it's not clear to me how long you will be able to obtain vtx's for a set of goggles that they discontinue. Today the air unit is out of stock on the DJI web site and we know their V2 goggles are being replaced by presumably something else. HD Zero looks like an option but their current VTX line up is limiting for is power across the various board sized. Will be interesting to see where the Walksnail firmware goes in the near future.
@jeffclassics
@jeffclassics 2 жыл бұрын
Good point about support and production. I'm more looking at the price point, avatar or dji, they are both expensive.
@ShermanKenB
@ShermanKenB 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffclassics Yes they are. It would cost me over $1k just to upgrade my two quads :(. Am guessing that price isn't going to come down anytime soon.
@jeffclassics
@jeffclassics 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShermanKenB even used Dji gog V2 costs 80-90% of bnew. In my case I have a 1k worth of setup. That's 2.0 2s, 2.5 4s and 4.0 4s radio and 04L. Upgrading vtx HD alone costs the same as all my existing equipment combined. I'm rooting for HD zero but I'm willing to wait another year.
@arniebmx
@arniebmx 2 жыл бұрын
and how do you know fat shark wont abandon this just like the did with skarkbyte? LOL. This is a potential question for all brands. Id rather go with a big established brand. Its crazy how fatshark can look shady even when compared to some chinese megacorp like dji.
@buddahblack5581
@buddahblack5581 2 жыл бұрын
ummagawd drop the link for that apple watch band I'm digging it, The walksnail system is very nice but I rock DJI .
@gregstewart4692
@gregstewart4692 2 жыл бұрын
Great production Tommy!👍👍
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! Very honest and logical opinions and speculation on potential future improvements. Thanks! 😎🤘
@MRdeLaat
@MRdeLaat 2 жыл бұрын
05:00 the air unit?
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, Tommy! Thanks! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@vchai84
@vchai84 2 жыл бұрын
i think the hd zero is clear then avatar?
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
No, actually the HDZero is the LEAST CLEAR - all sorts of snow, fuzz, distortion and those crazy full screen vertical rainbow bars! Lowest quality image, by far, and very poor penetration of objects. Currently, a distant 3rd place. That being said, Carl is a great FPV community guy, and my hope and prayers are that he gets his system to be the best digital FPV system on the market. I have my doubts it can be done, but I can always hope! 👍
@661FPV
@661FPV 2 жыл бұрын
I also think that HDZERO looks better than this system. I've seen side by side screenshots of both and HDZERO looks way better.
@powersv2
@powersv2 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to be able to turn on horizon , 3x3 grid, or shifting horizon lines using gyro. Pretty cool.
@mikebergman1817
@mikebergman1817 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else more excited to see Bots frame? Lol
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I am lol
@drogonfpv
@drogonfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Bergman I was thinking the same thing.
@attackfpv
@attackfpv 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@afcl1984
@afcl1984 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and your work man, keep it up. Just an observation, your camera keeps focusing in your hands instead of your face.
@kerbouchaud1
@kerbouchaud1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tommy for your clean unemotional review
@manuelsolano7525
@manuelsolano7525 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tommy best review jet.
@y_i_fly5418
@y_i_fly5418 2 жыл бұрын
Just not going to get into that system just yet. Have other things in the works. Plus remember what Vik FPV suggested, “you don’t have to always go with the latest and greatest, sure it’s nice but stick with the gear that you’ve already got.”
@gonebdg
@gonebdg 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they didn't provide video input for analog VRX or for PC simulator ? Is it "hard" or the chip tech doesn't compatible at all to provide the feature ? What I expected from walksnail/fatshark HD googles is a VRX module bay, 3rd party product is okay as long as they provide the possibility (video-in). Analog won't be dead in 1 decade because it is more universal, relatively cheap, a lot of options, and a lot of people already using it and might still want to keep using it for some reason, example for tinyWhoop or lite weight micro. Unless the manufacturer and the business want it to die soon ...
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Yea... it seems like a good feature to have especially for those transitioning from analog and have a lot of drones. It certainly helped me transition to DJI as I wanted to fly multiple drones when I go out, but only wanted to carry one set of goggles.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ummagawdFPV yeah, I love being able to use the URUAV analog adapter V3 with the very solid metal case and fly really good looking analog! The best image quality I've ever had with analog is with the DJI V2 goggles! IMO, that's a huge downfall of the Fatsnail system is no analog! One easy way to afford these digital systems is to sell you used analog goggles! My friend sold his HDO's for around $400 and was able to easily sell an analog quad that was his least favorite and he had all the money for the DJI V2 goggles. With having to keep your analog goggles along with buying digital, it makes it much more "cash outta pocket" with buying the WalkShark! (?) lol or, as Botgrinder calls them, the FatShart! 🤪
@douglasyoung3992
@douglasyoung3992 2 жыл бұрын
My beef with my Dji is the huge, heavy, sitting in the back of the movie theater feel. Dominator hd goggles feel awesome.
@StickJockeyFPV
@StickJockeyFPV Жыл бұрын
Which DJI goggles have the sitting in the back of the movie theater feel? How much of an improvement are the Dominator goggles in that regard?
@sulinkuo1476
@sulinkuo1476 2 жыл бұрын
Yo bro..... Where is the Walksnail Avatar comparison and review???!!!! Specifically a direction comparison between Fatshark & walk snail??? Cause that's what most people are confused which one to "BUY""? So what's your opinion?? Great Video cheer up
@its-my-life
@its-my-life 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the fact that DJI Goggles use both (!) 2.4Ghz and 5.8Ghz will make a difference when it comes to penetration/range of the Avatar system? As far as I know, the Dominator HD only uses 5.8Ghz.
@Quad_Father
@Quad_Father 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your take on this system. Any idea when the 50mbps option will be implemented…. Seems like that would fix a lot of the issues. That was the turning point for DJI early on.
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
not sure when... hopefully soon
@DeanChapmanFPV
@DeanChapmanFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy I’m still rocking attitude v4
@kyrofpv
@kyrofpv 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think this would be a good option for a beginner? I am on the fence about this system or DJI.
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong either way (unless Avatar's system doesn't improve.... but that's highly doubtful)
@kyrofpv
@kyrofpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@ummagawdFPV Thank you for replying back. I look forward to your opinion on new firmware updates.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
With Fatsnail you have to "pray & hope" they DO get better. With DJI, you already know it is better and you are confident you have the very best in FPV. But, that being said, it is premature to BUY RIGHT NOW! 🛑 There's a leak from DJI that tells us a V3 goggle is on the way. So, a wise buyer will wait to see what the V3 DJI FPV system will offer us. We must have patience in this FPV hobby! 🤔👍
@kyrofpv
@kyrofpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 I’m gonna wait and see what DJI comes out with too. Thank you for your input. Very helpful!
@jeffclassics
@jeffclassics 2 жыл бұрын
Hold it.
@deadlazlo
@deadlazlo 2 жыл бұрын
Honest as ever Tommy. Thanks!
@mahfpv7549
@mahfpv7549 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of how the goggles are smaller? Yes. In terms of most other things? Nah.. still need some catching up!
@sqb3832
@sqb3832 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings very good review I use dji and for me the only drawback is that you can not share the video to other glasses through hdmi that would be great I do not know if you can with these.
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
the HDMI out on the Avatar is to go into a monitor, not another set of glass (unless it has an HDMI input)
@morwellfpv3334
@morwellfpv3334 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Tommy...great info!!
@CrawlersCampRc
@CrawlersCampRc 2 жыл бұрын
Did see anyone show what the 1080 on board like yet and it's awesome!! I'm sure to already know the just recently came out with a firmware update to help improve images quality in goggles 👌💯 great review tommy and this is gonna be good!!
@3000gtwelder
@3000gtwelder 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda bummed, I hope they fix that compression problem soon. I pre ordered, and just got mine, after flying a friends DJI system, and loved the clarity. That blocky Mine craft shit has to go!
@djSpinege
@djSpinege 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for being an early adopter. i pre ordered a set of Dom HD3's that never worked good even after sending them back for fixing. i've used that $600 goggle a total of 3 times and use my old goggles instead. FPV is risky to the wallet!
@trebor1477
@trebor1477 2 жыл бұрын
​@@djSpinege Goooooood luck with them. I almost made the same mistake. But i change my mind and buy DJI V2 now i don't regret
@apair4002
@apair4002 2 жыл бұрын
1:40 that make me still fly analog. I am just regular fpv hobbyist. Walksnail is good, from goggle design to product support/product improvement/whatever except the video quality.
@scottmclaughlin1410
@scottmclaughlin1410 2 жыл бұрын
I found out that the DJI headset doesn't fit my face well but currently I am just using the DJI FPV drone and have not done much with my other drones
@skubyvision
@skubyvision 2 жыл бұрын
According to some recent news, it sounds like Fatshark is using DJI's chipset. DJI's next strategic move will be sending out there version 3 with their new chipset, leaving Fatshark with the old ones. Lol
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
lol right?!
@skubyvision
@skubyvision 2 жыл бұрын
@@ummagawdFPV Mad's Tech reported they rebranded the Artosyn chipset as a Virtex FGA, which would not even be compatible with the HD system. If they did do that and pull out the V3, win for DJI again. Great videos as always!!
@DrFrantic77
@DrFrantic77 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review mate, thanks for sharing
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@FlyZoneFpv
@FlyZoneFpv 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Tommy. Great review brother 👊🏻
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@nikodelrey
@nikodelrey 2 жыл бұрын
I believe future updates will practically get these goggles to the DJI level as far as quality is concerned. Thinking the latency will be closer to DJI than HDZero, which I don’t mind. Too bad about the lack of hdmi in. I’m leaning heavily on just buying them and watch the system grow. I’m now mostly curious about penetration. I think HDZero kinda blows when it comes to penetration. Btw, I fly HDZero and will continue to for racing. Great review!
@RCRitterFPV
@RCRitterFPV 2 жыл бұрын
does the DVR have Gyro Data ?
@marc_frank
@marc_frank 2 жыл бұрын
probably not, certainly not in goggle dvr, but on-board could be doable if you have blackbox you could use that
@MadDragon75
@MadDragon75 2 жыл бұрын
Reminder: The fan switch is a long press power button on Attitude V6. Just move a jumper on the power input side behind the second port access panel.
@craigsaunders3532
@craigsaunders3532 2 жыл бұрын
As usual a great review from the man him self. Thanks
@tribefpv
@tribefpv 2 жыл бұрын
It's all a win win for me . More companies doing digital more products, the better it will all get. If you told me 7 years ago wen I got my new commander analog goggles, thinking I was killing it , that all this was going to happen ... would not of believed it. Lol I've try to fly my old analog stuff , but I just don't anymore. Wen u binded goggles to vtx , it all sounded way to similar. Like are all these vtx's coming out of the same factory 🏭 Hmmm ???
@erlandfpv
@erlandfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait and see,..., im using dji about a years now. And its worth it to wait and see about this googles, the setup can connect to the hdmi analog monitor adjust focus its amazing.
@WildpixFPV
@WildpixFPV 2 жыл бұрын
You like to fly close to stuff, as you said Tommy? You really should check out HDZero now! None of that blockyness, nearly no latency. No matter how far u go. The only thing is you need to be careful not to interrupt l.o.s. too much. Still: Signal comes back immediately once it comes back out of interruptions. Maybe even wait till HDZero goggles are out. The Fatshark HDMI doesn't like a steady module connection, mine and many others died. Out for repair, grounded on the HDZero builts..
@arniebmx
@arniebmx 2 жыл бұрын
isnt it a consensus already that compression is better than breakup? Id rather barely be able to see than to not be able to see at all. Digital video with analog breakup just seems like a dumb idea that wont ever make it past racing tracks.
@deroskar
@deroskar 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most honest and good reviews ive seen so far. I just started with analog a few months ago and its perfectly fine to start with. After ive seen 21.22.5 firmware uptate im having a good feeling about this. If im going digital, im going fatshark/walk. Only downside im having is the no hdmi input. Otherwise theydid evrything right.
@kamnxt
@kamnxt 2 жыл бұрын
No HDMI or analog input. Even DJI is more open at this point...
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamnxt I had that thought when I went digital last year. “Oh my I’ll heed to get these goggles paired up with an analog receiver!” After I flew the Dji rig I was like… analog what? A few weeks into digital and analog literally was a disgusting experience making me wonder how I stuck with the hobby 4 years before going digital.
@MasterBlud
@MasterBlud 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a Walksnail/Dominator module.
@ericapelz260
@ericapelz260 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Fatshark missed on the name, they already sed Dominator and these goggles have a very HammerHead shark feel. The firmware update really helped Bardwell; I'm cautiously optimistic. I am really interested in HD but not a fan of the DJI ecosystem.
@trebor1477
@trebor1477 2 жыл бұрын
DJI goggles are being rooted and you can instal WTFOS fatshark can swim away for now
@arniebmx
@arniebmx 2 жыл бұрын
what dont u like about the dji ecosystem? Its leagues and bounds above everything else.
@trebor1477
@trebor1477 2 жыл бұрын
I was against DJI also but i did buy brand new for 450€ and air unit for 168€ and they do work perfect. But Fatshark will need more firmware tuning before they will perform the same. And DJI can be rooted to add missing fpv options as full OSD, audio .... For this is neded firmware version 01.00.0606
@CalleyyyC
@CalleyyyC 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Tommy, did you experience much stuttering/skipped frames? Looks like maybe it could be an alternative to the current DJI system some day, the features and goggles have some appeal except for having zero input options :/
@___echo___
@___echo___ 2 жыл бұрын
here hes got the old firmware, new firmware has stuttering but higher latency and better image
@CalleyyyC
@CalleyyyC 2 жыл бұрын
@@___echo___ the firmware at rampage had stuttering too tho, unless it went away between then and came back with the latest firmware
@RCRitterFPV
@RCRitterFPV 2 жыл бұрын
these goggles seems much nicer than the DJI... but I have too many Vistas and Air Units. I don't doubt a few Firmwares down the road it will at least equal dji (not yet) love the Canvas mode. I have too many Vistas and Air Units... Dji V3? HDzero Goggles will have analog too...
@Dashone93
@Dashone93 2 жыл бұрын
A live Long range competition needs to happen
@garretpickens5745
@garretpickens5745 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I totally agree with ya, and for it to be done by real longrange pilots and not freestyle pilots haha.
@RobertLeclercq
@RobertLeclercq 2 жыл бұрын
0:22 No OSD *fixed*
@justinwalker8364
@justinwalker8364 2 жыл бұрын
… and damn that botgrinder frame is beautiful.
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
lol yes it is
@user-vr1qv6qe7f
@user-vr1qv6qe7f 2 жыл бұрын
Well if you haven't tried hd-zero you should at least get a 1w for fitment tests on the botgrinder frame. He said it wants it to fit and I'd imagine he wants it bando proof being him. Frame will end up close to 45mm wide to cover everything. Lol. The avatar looks like it's close to the edge and you can't have overhang with hd-zero cause the plug is on the side and easily broken.
@ronnyrengkung7894
@ronnyrengkung7894 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tommy,......!!! Good Luck Ummagawd
@jas-FPV
@jas-FPV 2 жыл бұрын
You should really try HDZero if you prefer low latency
@divingfalconfpv4602
@divingfalconfpv4602 2 жыл бұрын
I like that they r a fpv company. It has canvas mode. They will add things we ask for. Where while dji is great they don't really care about us. They could end up pulling their stuff. I do have DJI. I want HDzero for micros. I am eyeing this avatar waiting for it to be final product
@gandaulf_fpv6925
@gandaulf_fpv6925 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy.
@gloomiehoodie
@gloomiehoodie 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Fatshark, it's been a pleasure but, I just found someone way more attractive and up-to-date. It's been lovely spending time with you, but you became old-tech and boring to be around. After all these years you didn't care much about improving to keep me around, now the competition showed up you decide to wear lipstick?! I know it might hurt, but, you just can't beat the beauty of the feature-loaded DJI's goggles 2. Welcome DJI to my FPV world, but be aware that I'm also flirting with HDZero, she really is an eye-catcher too! 😁
@andrewlittleton2209
@andrewlittleton2209 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t have to worry because their customer base is larger. But this is going to be good for FPV.
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@clovrfpv
@clovrfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the motors on the quad? That's what I want 🤔👌
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe… they’re out now on www.ummagawd.com
@illyrian8991
@illyrian8991 2 жыл бұрын
Well I am sure that DJI can upgrade their existing system with a firmware update or I wait until it's hacked. Fatshark has lost me as a customer forever. I will never buy one of their products. I stay with my trusted DJI Goggles. They even deleted my comment that was very well put together. It was a constructive critizisem with alot of arguments. That's the type of company fatshark is. They will never scam me!
@KnetiKFPV
@KnetiKFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Do you like how the goggles fit on your face?
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I have a little bit of light leak around the nose area (which is fixable), other than that I did like the way they fit.
@trajanfpv
@trajanfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy, after watching this whole video twice, I still can't see how you think it looks better than DJI. Maybe you have to see it in the googles, but DVR to DVR DJI is much better. Maybe after many updates. I hope it can catch up and maybe be better one day.
@661FPV
@661FPV 2 жыл бұрын
Super suprised you just showed that frame like it's nothing lol
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
it's a really clean frame ;)
@GeKoFPV
@GeKoFPV 2 жыл бұрын
great video! exciting times for digital fpv :) Personally I am also way too invested in DJI and vista systems. It would be worth mentioning that recently a 'canvas' mode for the DJI v1 and v2 goggles is being worked on by the same people that made the dji -> hdmi out possible, and this is currently in beta - looking very promising also
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
that's great news!
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 2 жыл бұрын
The gui version will be ready once Bri3d finishes rewriting the msp_displayport emulator layer. Another month or more yet.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
@@changeagent228 Great to hear and exciting! thanks! :)
@ummagawdFPV
@ummagawdFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@changeagent228 would love to test this when ready
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 2 жыл бұрын
@@ummagawdFPV It's ready now!!! 😄👍🏻 Strap yourself in! Live Audio + Canvas OSD + 60Mbps mode + More!!
@SeeFPv-qm6ie
@SeeFPv-qm6ie 2 жыл бұрын
no I don't think dji should worry because they are the first company that came out with digital and I think that they can surpass fatshark far better
@chrismillersrcfamily
@chrismillersrcfamily 2 жыл бұрын
Look what happened to OG Fatshark. They was the first analog goggle. They had no competition for years. Then orca, skyzone come out. Competition is good thing. Makes companies work harder to out do each other.
@TheDiegoAranda
@TheDiegoAranda 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismillersrcfamily Assuming Fat Shark doesn't quit on this system just like they did with SharkByte.
@aakashjana6225
@aakashjana6225 2 жыл бұрын
If walksnail fatshark avatar HD keeps backwards compatibility and community in mind they will be the best company. DJI is already seeming to be on its way to upset it's current customers by making v3 stuff incompatible to v2.
@tribefpv
@tribefpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismillersrcfamily So true. Makes me think would , fatshark even have digital if DJI didn't come along 🤔
@arniebmx
@arniebmx 2 жыл бұрын
@@aakashjana6225 yeah, im sure fatshark is super worried about the commuinty. Thats exactyl why this brand new system that is worse in every way to a 2 year old system is even more expensive. Im sure those 600 dollar goggles are very pro consumer. LOL
@MrBEEFCAKE26
@MrBEEFCAKE26 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got both Dji still just wins. It’s just form factor really
@Elon425
@Elon425 2 жыл бұрын
If the fatshark system was 2/3 to half the price of DJI, it would be a no brainer. But cost for cost and the current state of things, It's going to be really difficult to dethrone DJI.
@NOT_ANOTHER_FPV
@NOT_ANOTHER_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
They could have started by making the price lower than the DJI...but no for some reason 600 bucks seems fair to them.
@HawkeyeDFPV
@HawkeyeDFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hdzero is the competition.....
@CarlPaulsen
@CarlPaulsen 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind an A/B test with DJI, how about an A/B/C with DJI and HDZero? You wanna talk latency?
@ruftime
@ruftime 2 жыл бұрын
Follow the money……it’s in FPV military applications……our low volume/low profit RC hobby market has been measured……and found wanting😎
@MindRiderFPV
@MindRiderFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Not selling my V2 anytime soon :-)
@Editer38738
@Editer38738 2 жыл бұрын
The v3 googles will be the best Again !! Hurry up release the fpv 2nd generation W. V3 googles
@Salamattder
@Salamattder 2 жыл бұрын
4:52 Hey walk snail… ever heard of USB C? Why with that connector? Why? Maybe so next version you can upgrade it to USB C. Has to cost 10 cents
@feelfreefpv
@feelfreefpv 2 жыл бұрын
Motors in view use to mean broken frame :D
@hallio111
@hallio111 2 жыл бұрын
but you did the review without the new firmware? bardwell made a 2nd vid with updated FW, better smieryness with like a drew -handled unofficial FW, and I think more latency...about 34ms... weird man this is the 2nd review and FS really missed on this... those first reviews are so important.. FS marketing smarts..lol
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
I think it had the new firmware.
@TheDiegoAranda
@TheDiegoAranda 2 жыл бұрын
It has to be the new firmware, as the image quality difference between JB's first couple video and Mr Steele's "review" and *this* review is honestly significantly improved - it appears they tweaked the compression algorithm. That being said, the latency is *terrible*, and JB's most recent video demonstrated significant stuttering at only moderate ranges. They also appear to have forgotten to build in an overtemp shutoff, so if your quad falls out of the sky some distance away (unless your battery ejects) by the time you get to it the VTX will probably be burnt out.
@ozdemirsalik
@ozdemirsalik 2 жыл бұрын
The digital systems took so so long to arrive to the market. I mean we’ve been using 5.8 GHz all along for the analog video for f. sake.
@philsonnenberg6092
@philsonnenberg6092 2 жыл бұрын
Why would DJI be worried about this half assed, broken, not ready product? Maybe in a year when this is sorted out and works correctly. Even then DJI will be on V3 or higher while Fatsnail is still trying to get this V1 working. Better question should be.. Should Walkshark be worried about HDZero? Fatshark already screwed Karl so he has a reason to try to kill this joke.
@billyocean9236
@billyocean9236 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I don’t think that dji v3 will be for fpv freestyle. All leaks and leads point to the cinematic world with all in one action camera vtx’s that is gonna be blowing your wallet out to put them on a fleet of quads. I bet the vtx’s will be closer to $300 a pop and goggles prolly won’t change a lot. I have both v2 and new fatshark. According to what has been said and leaked, v3 isn’t for me. Guess we will see
@RCRitterFPV
@RCRitterFPV 2 жыл бұрын
yeah... I'm really tired of the bulky DJI headset especially with the BDI
@Steve-O_FPV
@Steve-O_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
30x30 please. Love the smaller profile. One of the many reasons I would never buy DJI goggles... the HUGE size. Time to empty out my wallet.
@ruzgaradisanli488
@ruzgaradisanli488 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video
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