Sounds like we should start factory farming lions in order to preserve the species.
@MikeHunt-xj5xf4 жыл бұрын
What next? Legalising abortion?
@SamXander234 жыл бұрын
@@MikeHunt-xj5xf um, abortion is legal in the UK, so it's a kinda weird comment.
@marniejen86883 жыл бұрын
MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT DOGS AND CATS "ARE LOVED" IS AS SPECIESIST AS EATING COWS AND PIGS. If I were to post pictures of pigs and cows living happily in sanctuaries saying that "most live well", I would like to think that I would be told that I am a speciesist who is misleading people. Likewise, people who make people believe that dogs and cats "live well" because some are well cared for (the minority) when yet more than 1. 1 billion agonize all over the world because of neglect (WHO data from their analysis on hygiene and human health, not that WHO cares about dogs and cats obviously), more than 400 million are killed in Asia to be eaten and millions tortured to death in laboratories, should obviously be called speciesists who are deceiving people and doing terrible harm to victims that instead of giving them a voice, they are destroying even more by making people believe that they "live well". According to the data I have been able to find - which I admit may not be entirely correct - every year in the world approximately 1000 million cows and 1000 million pigs are killed, which is a volume of victims similar to the one mentioned above, but veganism is not about defending "those who are most slaughtered" - if so we should be talking 99% of the time about fish and chickens that are by far the most slaughtered -, but to defend all other animal species from all forms of human exploitation, be it 60. billion victims, 1 billion or 1 victim. Making publications that transmit messages where people are aware that "dogs and cats live well", is as speciesist as making publications putting images of cows and pigs in sanctuaries saying that "they live well and are loved". Now, you have to ask those who keep making this kind of publications if: 1-. Do they do them because they are uninformed and don't know the facts? (from now on you already know them) 2-. Or because they really don't care about the other animal species or directly hate and despise dogs and cats? (this, by the way, is a speciesism equal to eating animals, veganism is NOT a diet). www.elespanol.com/alicante/elche/20210617/detenido-elche-propinar-brutal-paliza-cachorro-ciego/589691495_0.html The psychopath who had her in his care beat her up, fracturing her skull and leaving her blind, she arrived with one eye out at the vet clinic. Why are psychopaths like this allowed to breed/buy/adopt? Are you aware that this is the reason why there are over 1 billion abandoned and hundreds of millions of victims suffering these tortures and death beatings? If you set out to rescue tomorrow and rescue 50 victims, you will have helped 50 lives, but are you aware that if you do not raise awareness, if you do not push for a ban on the trade and control breeding, psychopaths like this will still be able to get their hands on victims and the day after you save 50, there will be another 100 new victims because UNTIL REPRODUCTION IS CONTROLLED IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HELP THEM? If there is no control of reproduction, IF THERE IS NO CENSUS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GUARANTEE RESPONSIBLE FAMILIES and therefore it is guaranteed the exploitation, torture and murder of these species, which are obviously not "loved and respected by society", they are just as despised as the other non-human animal species, starting with those who continue to make believe that they "live well", demonstrating that they have not spent, nor intend to spend 1 single second to inform themselves and defend them. ✅ PROHIBITION OF TRADE IN ANIMALS. ✅ COMPULSORY STERILIZATION. ✅ TOTAL CONTROL OF REPRODUCTION. ABANDONMENT IS A BUSINESS of the same "meat/dairy/egg" industry (feed manufacturers) + veterinary and laboratories + state that are taking millions and millions at the cost of a massacre. While the speciesists who call themselves anti-speciesists keep saying: "that dogs and cats are loved", "that you love some and eat others", this is happening all over the world. These slaughterhouses that they whitewash by calling "kennels" are everywhere killing day after day in every country of the world, while people believe (largely because of those "love some and eat others" who collaborate in making believe that dogs and cats are loved) that only in China they are hurting dogs and cats, when WHO data says that more than 1 billion dogs and cats are agonizing abandoned in the world. And while this is happening, while these images of their corpses are here, those "anti-speciesists" are insulting their memory saying about them that "they live well", "they are loved". Eating any animal species is speciesism. To make believe that dogs and cats live well, is the same speciesism. Not being informed, and subsequently not informing and raising awareness about the need to control reproduction in order to put an end to this criminal industry and guaranteeing that there will never again be abandonment, is still speciesism, since it is evident that some people who claim to be "vegan" apparently only talk about cows, pigs and chickens, which is as speciesist as talking only about dogs and cats. Veganism is against all forms of animal exploitation and obviously allowing anyone to buy and anyone to adopt, children being sold as merchandise and mothers being raped to give birth to "toys" and sell them, is exploitation, torture and animal murder. If you keep saying that dogs and cats are loved, if you go on with "you love some and eat others", let me call you what you are: SPECIECIST. The dog and cat business is one of the largest animal exploitation, torture and murder businesses in existence. With more than 1,000 million agonizing for abandonment, and more than 200. 000 million that move only counting EU and USA, it is a business where the exploiters called "veterinarians" (who still pretend to sell as animal lovers) and the industry of "meat, dairy, eggs" that are the "feed manufacturers" along with laboratories and pet stores, are making money at the expense of massively reproducing dogs and cats without any control, causing massive abandonment and that people by instinct and desperate adopt and rescue, going at that time to pay feed, vaccines, deworming, consultation, etc... In fact recently I also read about the boom in the business of "cremation of dogs and cats" also move millions of euros with this aspect and therefore the more they exist, the more they die, the more money they make. A CRIMINAL BUSINESS of which little or nothing is said in a veganism that seems to believe that saying "adopt don't buy" is solving something... and no, nothing could be further from the truth. www.europapress.es/sociedad/medio-ambiente-00647/noticia-70-perros-todo-mundo-viven-abandonados-500-millones-real-sociedad-canina-20200721155426.html. Many vegans have a disneyized, idealized vision about the life of groups such as "companion" and "wild", for example. The former, because they are close to us, are ultra-vulnerable. In reality, those that are alive are survivors of speciesist violence. To reproduce them is criminal.
@briansupermega56923 жыл бұрын
Complete straw man lmao!
@briansupermega56923 жыл бұрын
@@marniejen8688 didn’t read u thing, but you can’t deny that our relationship with dogs aren’t the same as they are with other species. It’s a useful relationship in that regard.
@artisticmilk8 жыл бұрын
"No, no! I don't have time to order the veggie sandwich at lunch. I mean, think of the lions!" ........
@fillipbaum37586 жыл бұрын
(^≗ω≗^)
@laurentfaurite91993 жыл бұрын
But why should he?
@veganmasterchef10698 жыл бұрын
I went vegan overnight. It was not hard at all.
@meghanawarrier58478 жыл бұрын
Same here. I just woke up the next day and I told my mom that I was gg vegan lol. This was aft a sch trip and she asked me "so u went for a sch trip today and then what happened?"
@mrbluetit62758 жыл бұрын
I went from a full blow dairy eater, die hard meat eater and a leather wearer, to a vegan in 10 days, I appreciate some people who go vegetarian/vegan can be a smidge of a challenge but I thought I'd need bundle of texts books and loads of vegans to help me, but I done it mostly on my own....
@chloeyoung78357 жыл бұрын
I was in that situation, I live in a rural village in England so finding specific vegan alternatives is really hard, but I still managed to go vegan overnight. I didn’t eat a lot for the first few days but research definitely helped and now I have been a proud vegan for three months! 🌱
@browneyedb6 жыл бұрын
Same
@TheBerkeleyBeauty6 жыл бұрын
So did I. Not difficult at all.
@veganground2938 жыл бұрын
When he said that the lions might go extinct in a few decades you should've told him that fish might as well and that he was being hypocritical!!
@ed.winters8 жыл бұрын
+VeganGround I know man I wish I'd have said that at the time too!
@sander7118 жыл бұрын
+Earthling Ed I think it's beter you didn't. Your intention is to make people realize why it's immoral to eat meat and make them aware of the way the industry works right? If this is the case you don't want to make people angry because that would have a negative influence on your intention. Your point would not come across. I feel like saying directly to someone he is a hypocrite will not work well, making them realize they are will. Anyway keep up the good stuff. Peace in and out.
@veganground2938 жыл бұрын
+Sander Vogel I think it would be better to ask them if it's hypocritical hahaha it's a good way to make them think for themselves and make them realise they are being hypocritical "fish might also be gone in a few decades and you eat fish, do you think that is hypocritical?" Or something similar:)
@sander7118 жыл бұрын
+VeganGround That's exactly what I meant.
@Guarzog8 жыл бұрын
That's not an argument. You would complain just as much if he only ate fish from fish farms, which have no effect on extinction rates. Vegans always argue like this, if you solve what they complain about then they go back to "pain and suffering tho". Why make that point in the first place?
@noone-jw7nd4 жыл бұрын
Its easy to be anti ivory or whaling or fur or game hunting because you don't actually have to change anything about the way you live but you get to feel good about your morality.
@SourceChan2 жыл бұрын
It's easy to be vegan compared to being anything from a fire fighter to a police officer to someone stopping a trolley killing millions of people by jumping in front of it etc. You don't actually have to change much of anything about the way you live, you can still buy fast food from burger king, supporting corporations that sell 99% non-vegan products etc, but you get to feel good about your morality, even though you definitely still buy products involving child labor, pay rent to someone who generally uses that rent on themselves, luxury goods, making more money, eating meat, etc, when you could live in a tent instead.
@ziharkeus78142 жыл бұрын
@@SourceChan "You can't be perfect and reduce the harm you cause to 0% so let's cause as much harm as possible."
@SourceChan2 жыл бұрын
@@ziharkeus7814 Did I say that? I'm vegan myself my dude, I just think op's comment is absolutely braindead and is him just massaging his and other narcissistic vegans egos / virtue signaling. Omg everyone has it so easy except for us dude, it's so hard being vegan, omg, we are the real victims, we have to let go of eating meat! Poor us! Someone save us! Praise us! worship us! We're much smarter than you! Much more moral than you! Much better than you! Much more virtuous than you! We are your gods! We're not religious though, we're all atheists, but worship us; if god existed we would be his favorite!
@ziharkeus78142 жыл бұрын
@@SourceChan You are reading way too hard into it. All he said was: Being vegan at least takes some steps of change. Changing your diet, and being cautious about the clothes, the cosmetics, the cleaning stuff etc. you buy. Being anti ivory for example doesn't need any change, it is pure talk. If you are an activist, it is another thing, but OP did never imply anything regarding activism.
@SourceChan2 жыл бұрын
@@ziharkeus7814 You're just missing the point and probably reading the statement too literally without understanding context/subtext or the deeper meaning of a statement (foundational reasoning, implications, etc). The person in the video and other non-vegan animal activists in general can't be summarized with "I'm against ivory and other things that I don't have to do anything about", in fact did you even watch the video? the guy is literally an animal conservationist, op is using literally the lowest bar possible just to dismiss basically all non-vegans because "they're not like him". This is basic ingroup/outgroup tribal behavior practiced by snobs in our ancestral past, maybe fitting for the pre-modern'ish age like the pre 19th century or so, but it's the 21st century now, get over yourselves. I used to be vegetarian, you (or op) could've been pretty much just as much of a pompous schmuck towards me when I was (and almost none of you were vegan all your life either, and if you were, you never had to inform yourself or make an effort, did you?), going "boohoo so you don't have to eat meat, you still drink milk and eat cheese you ANIMAL ABUSER, my life is so much harder than yours, I make such a greater effort than you do!!!!". The point is simply: Don't ever be a pompous self-congratulating schmuck bragging about yourself by putting others down who's done nothing to you by declaring yourself the superior person or morally virtuous or whatever person to others, that's not a sign of actual superiority or good character, it's a sign of insecurity and narcissism, get over yourself, learn to mingle, co-exist and be a positive force of nature, a good leader/example don't trash other people relentlessly and pointlessly (if at all), none of these people if they read op's comment would ever go "omg, you're so right, I don't have to do anything, I should be like you instead!" (or if they hypothetically ever did it would be out of almost pure narcissism which would just breed more narcissistic idiots going around bragging about their veganism, then when everyone at some point was vegan they would start bickering/bragging about something else while still failing to co-operate or co-exist with anyone, basically breaking the fabric of social cohesion and turning the world into lawless anarchy of the worst kind, re-creating the kind of systems of oppression we have for both humans and animals right not or worse), op's message is purely negative, elitist and narcissistic and op deserves a slap in the face for acting like such a spoiled brat likely having no meaningful or useful skills irl themselves; if they had made an effort to make something out of their lives they wouldn't be spending their time bragging about their veganism online by putting everyone else down, so stop bragging about nothing, do something useful and meaningful with your life, and get over yourself, you're not important, your veganism isn't important, in fact real sensible vegans don't want to own people like you/op, I honestly rather wish op was non-vegan, so he wouldn't turn other reasonable people off veganism - they might be +1 vegan in the world, but this type of person undoubtedly turn way more people off veganism than on, so they're a net negative in the world and for veganism and the animals.
@bananawarriorprincess56798 жыл бұрын
He'd trying so hard to sound like a good person by appearing as a conservationist, but all he has to do is go vegan and he can still save lions at the same time. Being vegan is only difficult if you think about yourself first before the victim
@ed.winters8 жыл бұрын
+Banana Warrior Princess Well said 💚
@teslasbitch39055 жыл бұрын
It sounds like your implying hes a bad person. I'm guessing hes doing alot more for animals than you
@hofhdskfhdks5 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with vegans. The vast majority think they're far more superior and righteous to meat eaters.
@dedeortiz10415 жыл бұрын
@@hofhdskfhdks - You could use that same argument with meat eaters. They can be arrogant and righteous too with the comments they post on vegan videos. At least the majority of vegans try to be humble and only advocate so hard because they care so much, not because they are trying to be on a higher level.
@dontwatchdominionfilmonyou24335 жыл бұрын
@@hofhdskfhdks If vegans think they are superior why would they ever try to convince you to go vegan ? They would lose that 'superiority' as soon as you stop exploiting animals.
@rachelAO8 жыл бұрын
He works for wildlife protection and then eats fish! Some of the most at risk animals in the world are fish. I don't get it. Another good one Ed!
@eliasjakewallace22392 жыл бұрын
@Maynards so blue Huh?
@juliewake45852 жыл бұрын
@Maynards so blue that’s what I thought, and then I realised what a terrible effect we have on or oceans.
@alexhardy45592 жыл бұрын
@@juliewake4585 everything gonna have a terrible effect on oceans forests grasslands one way or the another. Mining industry creates toxic enviornment, industrial wastes ruin soil and rivers. Agricultural lands cause deforestation. Cheap clothes and shoes(I'm sure you don't know about them 1st world country person) are products of indentured workers in China. Everything gonna be the product of exploitation so where do we draw the line. If it's unclear better we stop doing it no
@juliewake45852 жыл бұрын
@@alexhardy4559 agreed. So many ID us are ignorant aren’t we? Or choose not to know about it.
@alexhardy45592 жыл бұрын
@@juliewake4585 or choose to know about it and just don't care enough. Personally I'm not so principle driven to believe in individual sacrifices for betterment of another species. But that's just me
@TheAbbybabs8 жыл бұрын
I know this guy, he does amazing work for a lot of endangered animals, and organises huge animal charity events which I've attended. I think however, that he is still on his journey and is getting there slowly. I think he will go vegan soon as I know he gets a lot of stick for not being vegan. He will get there.
@TheMastermind7296 жыл бұрын
Really? Where'd you find him?
@zain40194 жыл бұрын
lisa martin Thank-you for understanding another’s journey:)
@janemarshall163 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't care what a 'good' guy he is... he expects others across the globe to curtail animal cruelty whilst he makes excuses that it's too hard for him to do so.
@TheAbbybabs3 жыл бұрын
@@janemarshall16 My comment was from 5 years ago, I had only been vegan a year and had just met him. I'm hoping after 5 years, that he should be vegan by now!!
@muriloamorim27313 жыл бұрын
@@TheAbbybabs i was just scrolling down the comment to find out if he's already turned into a vegan
@thatvegancouple8 жыл бұрын
How do you not lose your shit?! You do an amazing job ... have really enjoyed this series.
@ulaland8 жыл бұрын
I love the way Ed talked to this people with no judgement in his voice and so kindly. Very much like Luca and Natasha :) I really like this. It makes vegans seem rational, logical and grounded - like we are :)
@piiinkDeluxe8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sending me here - snapchat fam. ✌🏽️
@ed.winters8 жыл бұрын
+That Vegan Couple haha, patience and perseverance is key! Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate your support. It was so lovely of you to give me a shout out in your video and snap chat, much love 💚
@marniejen86883 жыл бұрын
MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT DOGS AND CATS "ARE LOVED" IS AS SPECIESIST AS EATING COWS AND PIGS. If I were to post pictures of pigs and cows living happily in sanctuaries saying that "most live well", I would like to think that I would be told that I am a speciesist who is misleading people. Likewise, people who make people believe that dogs and cats "live well" because some are well cared for (the minority) when yet more than 1. 1 billion agonize all over the world because of neglect (WHO data from their analysis on hygiene and human health, not that WHO cares about dogs and cats obviously), more than 400 million are killed in Asia to be eaten and millions tortured to death in laboratories, should obviously be called speciesists who are deceiving people and doing terrible harm to victims that instead of giving them a voice, they are destroying even more by making people believe that they "live well". According to the data I have been able to find - which I admit may not be entirely correct - every year in the world approximately 1000 million cows and 1000 million pigs are killed, which is a volume of victims similar to the one mentioned above, but veganism is not about defending "those who are most slaughtered" - if so we should be talking 99% of the time about fish and chickens that are by far the most slaughtered -, but to defend all other animal species from all forms of human exploitation, be it 60. billion victims, 1 billion or 1 victim. Making publications that transmit messages where people are aware that "dogs and cats live well", is as speciesist as making publications putting images of cows and pigs in sanctuaries saying that "they live well and are loved". Now, you have to ask those who keep making this kind of publications if: 1-. Do they do them because they are uninformed and don't know the facts? (from now on you already know them) 2-. Or because they really don't care about the other animal species or directly hate and despise dogs and cats? (this, by the way, is a speciesism equal to eating animals, veganism is NOT a diet). www.elespanol.com/alicante/elche/20210617/detenido-elche-propinar-brutal-paliza-cachorro-ciego/589691495_0.html The psychopath who had her in his care beat her up, fracturing her skull and leaving her blind, she arrived with one eye out at the vet clinic. Why are psychopaths like this allowed to breed/buy/adopt? Are you aware that this is the reason why there are over 1 billion abandoned and hundreds of millions of victims suffering these tortures and death beatings? If you set out to rescue tomorrow and rescue 50 victims, you will have helped 50 lives, but are you aware that if you do not raise awareness, if you do not push for a ban on the trade and control breeding, psychopaths like this will still be able to get their hands on victims and the day after you save 50, there will be another 100 new victims because UNTIL REPRODUCTION IS CONTROLLED IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HELP THEM? If there is no control of reproduction, IF THERE IS NO CENSUS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GUARANTEE RESPONSIBLE FAMILIES and therefore it is guaranteed the exploitation, torture and murder of these species, which are obviously not "loved and respected by society", they are just as despised as the other non-human animal species, starting with those who continue to make believe that they "live well", demonstrating that they have not spent, nor intend to spend 1 single second to inform themselves and defend them. ✅ PROHIBITION OF TRADE IN ANIMALS. ✅ COMPULSORY STERILIZATION. ✅ TOTAL CONTROL OF REPRODUCTION. ABANDONMENT IS A BUSINESS of the same "meat/dairy/egg" industry (feed manufacturers) + veterinary and laboratories + state that are taking millions and millions at the cost of a massacre. While the speciesists who call themselves anti-speciesists keep saying: "that dogs and cats are loved", "that you love some and eat others", this is happening all over the world. These slaughterhouses that they whitewash by calling "kennels" are everywhere killing day after day in every country of the world, while people believe (largely because of those "love some and eat others" who collaborate in making believe that dogs and cats are loved) that only in China they are hurting dogs and cats, when WHO data says that more than 1 billion dogs and cats are agonizing abandoned in the world. And while this is happening, while these images of their corpses are here, those "anti-speciesists" are insulting their memory saying about them that "they live well", "they are loved". Eating any animal species is speciesism. To make believe that dogs and cats live well, is the same speciesism. Not being informed, and subsequently not informing and raising awareness about the need to control reproduction in order to put an end to this criminal industry and guaranteeing that there will never again be abandonment, is still speciesism, since it is evident that some people who claim to be "vegan" apparently only talk about cows, pigs and chickens, which is as speciesist as talking only about dogs and cats. Veganism is against all forms of animal exploitation and obviously allowing anyone to buy and anyone to adopt, children being sold as merchandise and mothers being raped to give birth to "toys" and sell them, is exploitation, torture and animal murder. If you keep saying that dogs and cats are loved, if you go on with "you love some and eat others", let me call you what you are: SPECIECIST. The dog and cat business is one of the largest animal exploitation, torture and murder businesses in existence. With more than 1,000 million agonizing for abandonment, and more than 200. 000 million that move only counting EU and USA, it is a business where the exploiters called "veterinarians" (who still pretend to sell as animal lovers) and the industry of "meat, dairy, eggs" that are the "feed manufacturers" along with laboratories and pet stores, are making money at the expense of massively reproducing dogs and cats without any control, causing massive abandonment and that people by instinct and desperate adopt and rescue, going at that time to pay feed, vaccines, deworming, consultation, etc... In fact recently I also read about the boom in the business of "cremation of dogs and cats" also move millions of euros with this aspect and therefore the more they exist, the more they die, the more money they make. A CRIMINAL BUSINESS of which little or nothing is said in a veganism that seems to believe that saying "adopt don't buy" is solving something... and no, nothing could be further from the truth. www.europapress.es/sociedad/medio-ambiente-00647/noticia-70-perros-todo-mundo-viven-abandonados-500-millones-real-sociedad-canina-20200721155426.html. Many vegans have a disneyized, idealized vision about the life of groups such as "companion" and "wild", for example. The former, because they are close to us, are ultra-vulnerable. In reality, those that are alive are survivors of speciesist violence. To reproduce them is criminal.
@ezraangeljaramillobarrios66858 жыл бұрын
i never was a vegetarian lmao i just went to sleep like omg i hate vegans so much and i had this terrible nightmare about how horrible animals are treated and the next day i was vegan, 4 years going strong hell yea
@mulligatawnysoup92817 жыл бұрын
Cool
@JasonWilliams896 жыл бұрын
Idk how any sane person can hate vegans, but good for you in becoming reformed.
@zain40195 жыл бұрын
CbbTyrone Guilt and projection.
@loh3hall8605 жыл бұрын
For sure the fastest transition for veg of all! LOL
@Debate_Bot4 жыл бұрын
@Science is The answer haha lol
@NateWulfe8 жыл бұрын
Loving how he still eats fish but advocates for the welfare of marine animals! can't get much more hypocritical than that.
@hollya12798 жыл бұрын
And he is more sustainable than a vegan family #whattacock!
@indigodragon06138 жыл бұрын
Holly A XD that hashtag though
@patrickmorgan38407 жыл бұрын
Natasha Jones yeah I think he’s talking about whales, dolphins and other rarer more intelligent animals then fish
@angolangel6 жыл бұрын
MarshMallow Monster You mean like the ones that routinely get killed in the nets of fishing trawlers?
@tanashabethel47086 жыл бұрын
Fish is nice
@FountainBeee8 жыл бұрын
I know we may not agree with many of the things that he said, but he did seem to have thought about it a lot more than most people. Just a bit more thinking....and he may get there :)
@DaleAmigaman8 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview. I really do get fed up of people saying how hard it is to go vegan. I went vegan over night and I'd like to tell this guy that no, I've never broken it and I've found it incredibly easy.
@hollya12798 жыл бұрын
Same! What a twat. He justifies it to himself by thinking he is doing his part but there is no limit to compassion. Arghh!!
@dadungeonmaster8 жыл бұрын
While its second nature for a lot of us now, figuring out how to cut it out when your prior culinary experience was exclusively based around meat, dairy and eggs can be difficult. People do often overestimate how difficult it can be, and it can take a while for some peoples pallets to adjust. It's worth it in every respect, but it can seem like diving into the deep end.
@lucchomein7 жыл бұрын
Do you still eat conventional sugar ? Cause that’s not vegan
@anthonydude5 жыл бұрын
Well I guess if you found something easy, it must be easy for everyone. 🙄
@MeJustAimy4 жыл бұрын
albert fish Scuze you Ive been vegan 7 years and know people who have been so even longer it’s only a challenge if you limit yourself more than just eating fruit and vegetables. Like those idiots that went on water fasts, are only fruit, drank their own piss etc etc. these are the only people I see turning back on being vegan. If you are vegan you’re there for the animals, and you can’t turn back. Otherwise all you did was eat a “plant-based diet”
@jugbrewer3 жыл бұрын
this dude literally predicted covid and still doesn’t seem to have a problem with animal agriculture. wild
@Andrei-yv8fz8 жыл бұрын
Sorry, this guy doesn't really seem to care about the welfare of all animals at all, though he seems convinced he is. He's very specist. "But dogs tho!"
@Gee-xb7rt8 жыл бұрын
Its following the narrative, hes a product of the society he grew up in. I don't want to bash the work he does, but lets go there, how much of the world is deforested taking away native habitats and leaving species on the brink of extinction because of animal agriculture and animal feed agriculture?
@Andrei-yv8fz8 жыл бұрын
The thing that gets me is that he seems to have access to all this information, but continues to actively choose cognitive dissonance. I know that many people just don't realize what they are doing, but this bloke seems to know. It's the people who have the knowledge yet continue to make excuses that I don't quite understand.
@Gee-xb7rt8 жыл бұрын
Yeong-Min Bae thats who i work with, they talk one thing all day and jump in their suv and drive to their suburban home to eat steak, I think its the way my generation grew up, the generation above me is worse. Global warming was first theorized 120 yrs ago, thats a lot of ignorance and denial. What he said is false though, cities aren't expanding nearly as fast as animal agriculture and animal feed agriculture. the area around vegan mecca Chiang Mai is being burned to clear land for animal feed agriculture, its the predominate form of pollution in the area, and they blame everything else.instead. Its not the city growing, its the need for feed is growing.
@Andrei-yv8fz8 жыл бұрын
It seems to be a mindset; I am 35 years old, but I don't have issues with learning the truth and adjusting my behaviour. That doesn't mean it's easy all the time, but I sure do feel better doing the right thing. Is it a matter of short-sightedness? A sense of entitlement? Hoping someone else will solve the problems? Inability to tolerate not getting what you want or being uncomfortable at first? All of the above? It seems like some people will care up to the point where caring requires them to adjust their behaviour.
@Gee-xb7rt8 жыл бұрын
Yeong-Min Bae I think its a certain amount of "privilege" thinking, you are doing something, and something is better than nothing, so give yourself a gold star. Its why I get all cringy when people say "reducitarian", once less slice of bacon a week isn't doing a lot, really. but you can call yourself a reducitarian and feel good about yourself. All the 90s self help movements had no ethics. People like Tony Robbins and Oprah never mention ethics, you are just "good" as a default, a serial killer could listen to Tony Robbins tell them they are a good person, its just so messed up.
@hollya12798 жыл бұрын
Veganism IS easy. 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒
@DK-wl2om8 жыл бұрын
well for some people isnt and thats not bad
@SenrisPlace8 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. I'm sick of the excuses. If it's not easy for them then they have to make do. But I'm done hearing that as an excuse.
@SenrisPlace8 жыл бұрын
Veganism is as easy or hard as you want it to be. If you don't have a lot of money to spend on food, budget and just get the necessities like beans, rice and vegetables. And that's it. NOT being vegan IS bad because you're hurting others. So please stop trying to justify such unethical-ness (which isn't a word lol but whatever)
@sarahwolfgirl7 жыл бұрын
But my vegan diet doesn't even require cooking half the time. I just grab some fruit, veg, oats, nuts, seeds or whatever and just eat it. Lol. It isn't hard and I get to eat as much as I want
@leaperrins83737 жыл бұрын
Personally I find veganism very difficult. I often say to myself that I hate being vegan. However I do it because it's the right thing to do. So on the other hand, this makes me love being vegan. I love the fact that I am doing whats right and not whats easy. I am an emotional eater. I have lost interest in cooking and haven't been well which makes being vegan even more difficult. I was homeless when I started on my vegan journey. My partner died, I lost my business and my property. My sister stole everything I owned (a two bedroom house full of stuff including all my clothes) so I lost my sister too. I started to get ill through stress plus other issues (trust me I have not covered half of it here!). If I can be vegan then I think most people in developed countries can. I won't lie and say I did it overnight and that I didn't slip up along the way. However, I can never see myself going back to animal products. No animal deserves to suffer because I can't be bothered to cook or because I crave the taste of their body (and I do - I totally admit it!). I am now trying to transition to a more whole foods diet to address food cravings, weight and general health. So my point is that it isn't always easy being vegan and I will challenge anyone who says it is for everyone. However, that's no excuse not to strive to become vegan.
@abvfoak8 жыл бұрын
It'd be easy for this guy to go vegan, he just doesn't believe it yet. I can't talk down on him for that, I see his passion and activism for animals, and he understands that veganism is the ultimate goal... We need to help people like him understand how easy/inexpensive it can be! I remember before going vegan (after 3 years vegetarian) I was just afraid to let myself down, didn't know if it was possible, too good to be true, thought maybe I'd have to pretend that it was doable but would eventually fail/fail my animal pals. But my sister went vegan for a few months, and I saw how easy it was for her, how normal it became, how many options she had, how happy she was and I was like. Alright. I can do this. A year later I feel like nothing has changed, I've just got more patience, mental clarity, a sense of peace and acceptance, I can run farther... ;) But, you know, people need to have a basis upon which to believe in this and themselves...This guy could totally do it and needs support!
@Byokku20138 жыл бұрын
Does he really not understand his hypocrisy?
@MikeHunt-xj5xf4 жыл бұрын
It's like a vegan that is pro abortion, totally hypocritical.
@zain40194 жыл бұрын
rantsu Abortion is needed in some cases- sexual assault, is often one, as is when the mothers life is at risk. I think we as society need to careful how we address other abortion cases- much is the world is steeped in the remnants of a very real patriarchy, one that is often neglectful of women’s rights and issues. There would be abortion clinics around every block of men could get pregnant- I say that as a guy myself.
@xiaojunoliverzeng13814 жыл бұрын
Somehow, the more professional someone looks, the more stupid they are. He is just so into his studies that he lost the ability to generate rational thought.
@sacrificedogculture3 жыл бұрын
He's a racist aswell.
@DroosterH Жыл бұрын
@@MikeHunt-xj5xf No. That statement is wrong.
@luismrguimaraes4 жыл бұрын
It's a little weird watching this in 2020 and hearing this man talking about how Covid-19 came to be...
@katrieladolphus9204 жыл бұрын
This guy predicted coronavirus 😆
@UncleJ20588 жыл бұрын
Surprising the huge glaring fact that animal agriculture is the number one cause of wildlife and species extinction wasn't mentioned. He talked about having enough space for wildlife while not mentioning that most of the wildlands are being destroyed to produce feed or grazing land for livestock. While the work he does needs to get done, the only way species and wildlife extinction will stop is to strongly curtail animal agriculture.
@sarat.17448 жыл бұрын
Well, I actually did like this exchange and his arguments. I also appreciate his work and the good that derives from it. He sounds like a smart and compassionate man and it does seem that he will end up giving up fish as well in a very near future. I do agree with him when he says that it's a change that has to come from within and not because people want to force it on you. I became a vegetarian when I was 13 and will probably become vegan sooner or later but I do need to do it on my own so thank you for letting this gentleman speak up his mind and give his arguments too. I do not see him as a hypocrite as most people in the comments do, I see him as a human being doing a good work to protect wildlife and, at the same time, evolving at his own rythm. :-)
@ThePathOfEudaimonia4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@yakovweinreb19213 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this this! This man is clearly very knowledgeable. I loved the way he acknowledged other animal welfare issues as what they are and didn't use them to deflect/ minimize other ones.
@van77088 жыл бұрын
The first guy is not used to getting owned. He thinks he knows it all. The badgers! The lions!
@van77088 жыл бұрын
Is eating fish and debating that species that are going to be extinct should be helped. (and by 'first guy' I mean only guy ;))
@Linda-lp2rq8 жыл бұрын
yeah totally! he's talking about how lions could disappear in a few decades but it's the same with all marine life!?
@VeganPirateNinja8 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@sushi_mermaid71168 жыл бұрын
He is a speciesist and is trying not to sound like one. That is all the dancing around that you are seeing.
@robinandned31518 жыл бұрын
at least he's doing something. and limiting the animal products he's eating. yeah he's a bit of a tit but he means well
@funkymunky8 жыл бұрын
What a great run you had this week, Ed -- you should be proud! Lots to be gleaned here; all will be channeled towards more effective activism. Can't wait for Em's contribution!
@RehanaSara8 жыл бұрын
You're like the vegan street interview ninja.
@scrapdog28404 жыл бұрын
This is hands down the most intelligent & interesting person Ed has ever interviewed. I like him.
@vietnamd08203 жыл бұрын
7:06 good to see Ed bring up antibiotic resistance in a debate from five years ago ✅
@7GeorgeB18 жыл бұрын
his body language in this .... lol
@RehanaSara8 жыл бұрын
I know, he's literally stroking him arm with his thumb, seems to be comforting himself.
@meagen13428 жыл бұрын
Rehana Sara why would he need to be comforting himself?
@RehanaSara8 жыл бұрын
Meagen Kasey why do you think?
@meagen13428 жыл бұрын
Rehana Sara he's making hella good points. Sounds like a badass. And my question is, why is the other guy even questioning him? Why isn't he helping him protest for the dogs? It seems like he thinks cows and pigs are better than dogs. THAT is speciasist, therefore he's being a hypocrite against meat eaters
@RehanaSara8 жыл бұрын
Meagen Kasey do you eat animals?
@Ken_sky8 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, this guy is unable to answer one simple question.
@meagen13428 жыл бұрын
Hana Awachi he answered all of them just fine
@milkeyakalaf60063 жыл бұрын
Look at that! He forsaw Covid! If only people would have listened 4 years ago.
@GoVeganForTheAnimal2 жыл бұрын
I think that this guy would feel more fulfilled if he stopped consuming murdered aquatic life and became a vegan activist instead of a welfarist. He has vegan values and seems to be burdened by having to pick and chose which animals to defend rather than defending all of them.
@rickelmonoggin3 жыл бұрын
It's so hard to become a vegan - this lentil bolognese I'm having for dinner; it's just so difficult to eat.
@LoveSarahJean8 жыл бұрын
So sad that people truly believe you can only have one cause at a time like this.
@vaurien36943 жыл бұрын
Exactly. So many people tell me that I should start caring about humans and speak up for human rights instead of animal rights. Can't we do both?? Can I not eat a vegan diet, advocate for animals rights AND care for humans and speak up for human rights? And then you find out that they don't do anything for human rights themselves - they're just trying to find any kind of contradiction or "bad aspect" about me being vegan in order to not lose their face and to feel better about themselves. Ridiculous.
@catherinehoy55483 жыл бұрын
7.40 prophetic in the time of Covid, well pretty obvious really, a pandemic waiting to happen. Animal agriculture driven antibiotic resistance is a major concern.
@teresamoscatelli2393 жыл бұрын
It's funny how "We're human" is both used to elevate us over animals, AND to justify our mistakes
@Xplorer2286 жыл бұрын
He's excellent at dodging questions and obfuscating the problem at hand.
@theremystics4 жыл бұрын
7:42 -hindsight 2020 (literally) "global outbreak of a disease coming from a place like china" - GEE that could never happen... We should really have been and be paying better care and attention to this issue all across the board. The problem is that people see it as just "China's" problem, but zoonotic diseases can arise from anywhere and do. I think people just don't like looking in the mirror, this pertains to the Yulin issue as well.
@womaninthewave8 жыл бұрын
you have mega patience ed
@mintsiez8 жыл бұрын
if he is agains killing lions. he should be worried about chickens a lot of big cats are killed every year from farmers protecting there live stock
@BloodwyrmWildheart7 жыл бұрын
So we should let the Lions eat the chickens? Their only option is death in either circumstance. Hardly a good situation.
@mintsiez7 жыл бұрын
we should not farm chickens then the lions would have no reasons to bother the farmers
@BloodwyrmWildheart7 жыл бұрын
+mintsiez Well, good luck convincing them to stop. Frankly, they shouldn't even be there, but that's a whole other beast...
@yaccfonoti5 жыл бұрын
So frustrating. He's so close to caring, but fights it so hard.
@xxLeannePx15xx8 жыл бұрын
Great interview and some really interesting points raised. I find it hard to believe when people say they don't have time to worry about cows/pigs/chickens in the UK but they can organise and attend a protest about animals suffering in another country. Like you said, "you don't have to worry about them, you just have to not eat them" I'll tell my mum that next time she uses that excuse.
@timbunk19143 жыл бұрын
One of the very rare people that saw COVID coming 7:20
@brandilionn8 жыл бұрын
He's really good at not actually answering your questions. But he did seem to be intelligent, and aware of a lot of information.
@vinwillcock6123 жыл бұрын
This is an oldie, but a goodie. Great interaction and clinical examination of inconsistencies. But respectfully and intelligently allowing the person to develop and explain his views.
@hikinghermit3 жыл бұрын
Boy was that guy right with the zoonosis coming from uncontrolled meat industry in China...
@ayotayyo8 жыл бұрын
He really tried to tip toe around the real issue the entire time. Bringing up points that have nothing to do with the conversation and trying to run with it. Haha, woooow
@dominicevery98918 жыл бұрын
really love your interviews, very interesting as you let both you and the person you interview have their say aswell as use very well thought out and logical rebuttals to their arguments. keep up the good work.
@goodbadluck54864 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, four years on. Awkward.
@misterb64563 жыл бұрын
It should be illegal to kill and eat pets who have an owner, but generally it should be legalized. Its still food and dogs are not near extinction. No real reason not to eat them.
@shaneyLG3 жыл бұрын
Anyone watching this in 2022 wondering if veganism could have prevented covid.....
@jvanness907 жыл бұрын
His own thought process makes him incredibly uncomfortable as I'm sure even he knows he's extremely hypocritical.
@wisconsieee8 жыл бұрын
The way this man answers your logical questions reminds me of the answers year 10 students give on their mock IGCSE papers when they haven't studied at all.
@athenamartin34427 жыл бұрын
Maria Drew lol literally
@angolangel6 жыл бұрын
Yes! He just talks and talks and talks and talks about tangentially related issues when he cannot answer the question!
@petitpois22816 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha too true
@bonenettle8 жыл бұрын
Great interview per usual. I actually agree with most everything Dominic is saying, things are not always black and white when it comes to social injustice in any context. His logic fails when it comes to personal anecdotes about how veganism is hard, but his logic surrounding animal welfare is sound. Of course you're right as well, because like you said, all we have to do is stop consuming animals and this will effectively help the movement. We don't expect all vegans to be activists, and he could continue with his work without batting an eyelash towards vegan activism if he didn't want to prioritize it. I think if he looked into it more, put some research into it like he's put his research into animal conservation, on the other side he'd be vegan.
@eggmacthevegan28987 жыл бұрын
Great work Ed, you have excelled at what you do! Incredible inspiration to me and, I know for sure, so many others. Keep up the good work
@corneroftheearth26836 жыл бұрын
Ed, I think you should try you best to recruit this person. I wish you could nudge him just a little bit more to being vegan but you should agree that he has the heart, intelligent, experience & moral in-line with vegan movement. All his answers were solid with facts. Listen to the way he's answered your stapled question, he answered it with "neither" in a split second. If you could write the transcript of this interview, there's so much you could learn from him. I hope you don't lose him, he will be a big asset to this movement in International level
@samhowl11526 жыл бұрын
Everyone's morals are in line with vegan, just not their actions, so that's irreverent.
@jvanness907 жыл бұрын
That look you gave him when he said "I'm more sustainable" was priceless.
@novakadlparvar77066 жыл бұрын
He's forgetting the fact that he is literally paying his own money to consume the torture of all animals in agriculture.
@TheAbbybabs8 жыл бұрын
I know this guy, he does amazing work for a lot of endangered animals, and organises huge animal charity events which I've attended. I think however, that he is still on his journey and is getting there slowly. He will go vegan soon, as I know he gets a lot of stick for not being vegan yet as he is a huge animal advocate. He know's he's being hypocricial. I also believe that a lot of non vegans can still love and want to help animals, not just vegans, it's just that they are not awake as yet and haven't made that connection. Anyone helping any cause when it comes to saving animals and raising awareness is doing better than anyone who isn't. x
@ed.winters8 жыл бұрын
He does lots of great work for the animals, there is no doubt about that, but I wanted to raise awareness to him about being morally consistent. Without doubt non-vegans can love certain animals and want to help them but that doesn't excuse them from eating animal products. I very much admire all the work Dominic does which is why it is so important to me that people talk to him about veganism and keep doing so until he does make that connection. I think he will go vegan too, but unfortunately while he is on his journey millions of animals are on their journey to the slaughterhouse. I did make sure to tell him how much I appreciate what he is doing and after the interview we had a little chat and he said that I raised some important questions so hopefully I got him thinking :)
@TheAbbybabs8 жыл бұрын
@Earthling Ed, if anyone can turn him vegan, it's you!! Great interview and totally see that he needs to be consistent with his morals but I still believe he will get there, it's just a shame that someone of his status isn't vegan yet as more lives will be saved in the process. Great work as always, Ed.x
@RXROCK168 жыл бұрын
You Nate Diaz his Answers Like a Baws. I have no idea why you and Banana Warrior don't have millions of subscribers. It truly is absurd. Such phenomenal content and questions given with razor accuracy. Thank You Brother I'd love to try this Format of interviews in Sri Lanka. You are welcome to stay at my place in Sri Lanka whenever you come down. Love You Brother. #VeganForLife
@ESLTopics6 жыл бұрын
"You asked me a question," he proclaims, as a way of avoiding and not answering the follow-up question.
@BlackMambo57 жыл бұрын
I've been vegetarian since birth, as my parents were vegetarian themselves. I don't think I quite understand their argument saying "veganism isn't easy", well it is. Been living that lifestyle since birth, haven't complained once. Infact I feel like puking anytime I see meat or meat products. Its bullshit that people have to bring up that argument to excuse themselves to eat the flesh of an innocent animal.
@samhowl11526 жыл бұрын
Vegetarians consume animal by products, vegans Don't. Two separate things. Which are you?
@srikkdoc3 жыл бұрын
This man predicted coronavirus 5 years ago.
@fdpcompdm2 жыл бұрын
not really, cornova was man made in a lab
@srikkdoc2 жыл бұрын
@@fdpcompdm 🥴🥴sophist
@PhilipShields3 жыл бұрын
10:50 He argues that Asia shouldn't eat cats and dogs because they have value in the west. Cows are seen as sacred creatures in India which mean they could have the same argument. Pigs are considered forbidden in Islam and so eating and selling pigs could be offensive to many as well. Anything outside veganism is just a game of selecting which animals are protected and which are abused.
@carlosmourgues78843 жыл бұрын
No. You could go to the other side and not care what animal someone eats. I've been told pigs are as inteligent as dogs. If that is a fact, one has to decide if they should stop eating pigs, or accept eating dogs. I personaly don't like dogs and am vegan mostly for health. For a meat eating society, farming dogs for consumption should be legal. The fact people feel outraged at asians doing it is ridiculous and hipocritical.
@mr.mayonnaise54884 жыл бұрын
This is eerie watching during Covid.
@B1cam8 жыл бұрын
Ed I just got to say your interviews are excellent! In this case I thought the guy had some interesting stuff to say, there is a lot of work to be done and he is at one end of it whilst others are at another. All approaches are needed. 👍🏾
@ed.winters8 жыл бұрын
+B1cam Thank you for your feedback :)
@tasialast56243 жыл бұрын
This guy legit predicted Covid yet doesn’t see how his diet will lead to the problem.
@36ELRIC5 жыл бұрын
Smart guy who sounds like he really does good work. One of the best interviews on here. I'm sure he will get there in the end
@dangmefinnish3 жыл бұрын
2021, has he finally gone vegan? Would be interesting to get an update. He seems very deep thinker and would be great activist.
@AoOniTV8 жыл бұрын
Why are you all hating on this guy? He makes very valid and intelligent points and is active in helping animals. . . Vegans are never happy
@indigodragon06138 жыл бұрын
青鬼TV He's being hypocritical. He's also being extremely defensive. He's worried about lions and yet animal agriculture is forcing humans to use more and more land and the oceans are gonna be uninhabitable by 2048.
@BloodwyrmWildheart7 жыл бұрын
+Julia Crawford One person can only do so much. I'd wager he's done more than you.
@edwardhuang82777 жыл бұрын
Bloodwyrm Wildheart Doing a lot doesn't mean h s doing the right things
@brunobertua6 жыл бұрын
I'm a vegan and I'm also incredibly happy, and you are an idiot.
@OOOuise6 жыл бұрын
totally agree
@lissaloucks72067 жыл бұрын
He is obviously a very intelligent and well versed individual and probably isn't used to being on the controversial side of the debate and is having to question his own morals. He seems to try and justify himself often with your suggestive questioning. You really affected him especially since it seemed he was trying to move further away.
@christineg.17688 жыл бұрын
"Lions though" At least he admitted that he's a speciesist and I hope the interview got him thinking. He felt like running away so maybe he'll just become a vegan to feel more comfortable next time.
@FruityLiana8 жыл бұрын
This is such a great interview. It's crazy how he changed during the video. A bit hypocritical though but great job Ed as always you came back with great replies.
@marniejen86883 жыл бұрын
MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT DOGS AND CATS "ARE LOVED" IS AS SPECIESIST AS EATING COWS AND PIGS. If I were to post pictures of pigs and cows living happily in sanctuaries saying that "most live well", I would like to think that I would be told that I am a speciesist who is misleading people. Likewise, people who make people believe that dogs and cats "live well" because some are well cared for (the minority) when yet more than 1. 1 billion agonize all over the world because of neglect (WHO data from their analysis on hygiene and human health, not that WHO cares about dogs and cats obviously), more than 400 million are killed in Asia to be eaten and millions tortured to death in laboratories, should obviously be called speciesists who are deceiving people and doing terrible harm to victims that instead of giving them a voice, they are destroying even more by making people believe that they "live well". According to the data I have been able to find - which I admit may not be entirely correct - every year in the world approximately 1000 million cows and 1000 million pigs are killed, which is a volume of victims similar to the one mentioned above, but veganism is not about defending "those who are most slaughtered" - if so we should be talking 99% of the time about fish and chickens that are by far the most slaughtered -, but to defend all other animal species from all forms of human exploitation, be it 60. billion victims, 1 billion or 1 victim. Making publications that transmit messages where people are aware that "dogs and cats live well", is as speciesist as making publications putting images of cows and pigs in sanctuaries saying that "they live well and are loved". Now, you have to ask those who keep making this kind of publications if: 1-. Do they do them because they are uninformed and don't know the facts? (from now on you already know them) 2-. Or because they really don't care about the other animal species or directly hate and despise dogs and cats? (this, by the way, is a speciesism equal to eating animals, veganism is NOT a diet). www.elespanol.com/alicante/elche/20210617/detenido-elche-propinar-brutal-paliza-cachorro-ciego/589691495_0.html The psychopath who had her in his care beat her up, fracturing her skull and leaving her blind, she arrived with one eye out at the vet clinic. Why are psychopaths like this allowed to breed/buy/adopt? Are you aware that this is the reason why there are over 1 billion abandoned and hundreds of millions of victims suffering these tortures and death beatings? If you set out to rescue tomorrow and rescue 50 victims, you will have helped 50 lives, but are you aware that if you do not raise awareness, if you do not push for a ban on the trade and control breeding, psychopaths like this will still be able to get their hands on victims and the day after you save 50, there will be another 100 new victims because UNTIL REPRODUCTION IS CONTROLLED IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HELP THEM? If there is no control of reproduction, IF THERE IS NO CENSUS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GUARANTEE RESPONSIBLE FAMILIES and therefore it is guaranteed the exploitation, torture and murder of these species, which are obviously not "loved and respected by society", they are just as despised as the other non-human animal species, starting with those who continue to make believe that they "live well", demonstrating that they have not spent, nor intend to spend 1 single second to inform themselves and defend them. ✅ PROHIBITION OF TRADE IN ANIMALS. ✅ COMPULSORY STERILIZATION. ✅ TOTAL CONTROL OF REPRODUCTION. ABANDONMENT IS A BUSINESS of the same "meat/dairy/egg" industry (feed manufacturers) + veterinary and laboratories + state that are taking millions and millions at the cost of a massacre. While the speciesists who call themselves anti-speciesists keep saying: "that dogs and cats are loved", "that you love some and eat others", this is happening all over the world. These slaughterhouses that they whitewash by calling "kennels" are everywhere killing day after day in every country of the world, while people believe (largely because of those "love some and eat others" who collaborate in making believe that dogs and cats are loved) that only in China they are hurting dogs and cats, when WHO data says that more than 1 billion dogs and cats are agonizing abandoned in the world. And while this is happening, while these images of their corpses are here, those "anti-speciesists" are insulting their memory saying about them that "they live well", "they are loved". Eating any animal species is speciesism. To make believe that dogs and cats live well, is the same speciesism. Not being informed, and subsequently not informing and raising awareness about the need to control reproduction in order to put an end to this criminal industry and guaranteeing that there will never again be abandonment, is still speciesism, since it is evident that some people who claim to be "vegan" apparently only talk about cows, pigs and chickens, which is as speciesist as talking only about dogs and cats. Veganism is against all forms of animal exploitation and obviously allowing anyone to buy and anyone to adopt, children being sold as merchandise and mothers being raped to give birth to "toys" and sell them, is exploitation, torture and animal murder. If you keep saying that dogs and cats are loved, if you go on with "you love some and eat others", let me call you what you are: SPECIECIST. The dog and cat business is one of the largest animal exploitation, torture and murder businesses in existence. With more than 1,000 million agonizing for abandonment, and more than 200. 000 million that move only counting EU and USA, it is a business where the exploiters called "veterinarians" (who still pretend to sell as animal lovers) and the industry of "meat, dairy, eggs" that are the "feed manufacturers" along with laboratories and pet stores, are making money at the expense of massively reproducing dogs and cats without any control, causing massive abandonment and that people by instinct and desperate adopt and rescue, going at that time to pay feed, vaccines, deworming, consultation, etc... In fact recently I also read about the boom in the business of "cremation of dogs and cats" also move millions of euros with this aspect and therefore the more they exist, the more they die, the more money they make. A CRIMINAL BUSINESS of which little or nothing is said in a veganism that seems to believe that saying "adopt don't buy" is solving something... and no, nothing could be further from the truth. www.europapress.es/sociedad/medio-ambiente-00647/noticia-70-perros-todo-mundo-viven-abandonados-500-millones-real-sociedad-canina-20200721155426.html. Many vegans have a disneyized, idealized vision about the life of groups such as "companion" and "wild", for example. The former, because they are close to us, are ultra-vulnerable. In reality, those that are alive are survivors of speciesist violence. To reproduce them is criminal.
@i_zh8524 жыл бұрын
Wait so cat cant be vegan? What if a vegan have cat as pet I appreciate this man's works at endangered animals. And at least he appreciate and want to learn to be vegan. I just hope vegan community can be more welcoming and less judging.. And understand that everyone's journey is not the same
@BeeCHee873 жыл бұрын
The question that to me is the hardest one for people to argue their way out of is "Would you rather kill a human, an animal, or neither?" Once they say neither, it's game over!
@MaryAlicePetchPollard8 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone have to mix issues .... Dominic does amazing work, both here in the UK and around the world for so many animal issues. We need everyone, from every background to speak out for that which they are experts in !
@MaryAlicePetchPollard8 жыл бұрын
I give thanks for every voice against this horror and so should everyone else - the education, the change comes, probably not quick enough but it does.
@ed.winters8 жыл бұрын
The idea that it's okay to oppress farm animals because you help lions is similar to saying that it's okay to be racist on a day to day basis because you're vocal about women's rights.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet8 жыл бұрын
+Earthling Ed but, Ed, it IS okay to be racist on a day to day basis as long as you're for women's rights!! lol. this guy is something else. but great interviews. and you are such a beautiful man!
@ulaland8 жыл бұрын
I believe veganism is the least you can do. But I agree with many points of his. As a vegan I pay extra money to wildlife protection as I consider it more urgent. Everyone should speak on animals right issues - vegans or not, even if it's hypocritical.
@karenpeace86798 жыл бұрын
I'm so impressed with your ability to connect and help others to reconsider for themself
@an9l1c1sm63 жыл бұрын
07:35 Interesting topic, covid-19 and all.
@leehmantylerdrew3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t know how right he was.
@TheMelonvilleFlyingCircus8 жыл бұрын
If this guy was a full vegan we'd all be cheering, but he eats fish so he's getting lots of flack. Where does the praise start and the criticism kick in?
@van77088 жыл бұрын
It's not black and white. You can praise people for one thing they do and be critical about other things they do.
@MukulVyas54 жыл бұрын
15:21 He says that Vegetarianism/Veganism reduces the chances of being violent and uses the conflicts between India and Pakistan (partitioned because of British colonialism, but that's not my point) as an example as if that turning vegan will automatically magically make one completely non violent or solve all the issues or atleast not make people react violently to the issues and if it doesn't it has failed and is not one should adopt ignoring all other benefits/morals that a vegan lifestyle has. I was really impressed by him the whole time for what he does and how accurately he even predicted the Coronavirus outbreak but that comparison really showed that he's in denial, mainly (I guess) because of embarassment of being portrayed as a hypocrite.
@ROBOTBOYINITIATIVE4 жыл бұрын
This guy should have just handed over his CV with how much time he spends trying to validate why he has the be-all-end-all answer to everything. "You could debate..." no.. YOU can debate this, right now. Man ducking and diving like no tomorrow. Great questions asked Ed, interesting to see his responses.
@scarlettmottishaw68748 жыл бұрын
I noticed that, he was really trying to get away. I can't believe you have such a small amount of subs you have a brilliant way of talking with people.
@jamietrailrunner63118 жыл бұрын
Dude that was awesome man . Very interesting part1,2 and 3 great job :)
@elgrek02494 жыл бұрын
This guy called the Corona virus
@vintagelaidbackhippie4656 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting guy to interview. Great video Peace
@jallen9118 жыл бұрын
If animals matter morally the first thing you do is embrace the vegan ethic. Anything less than living vegan is intentional exploitation of animals and that's a hypocritical position.
@ThePathOfEudaimonia4 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess he was right about a SARS outbreak.
@JimMadden5 жыл бұрын
Once I decided to go vegan, it was so easy and literally from one minute to the next. People saying they want to but aren't, are clearly just trying to lighten the discussion and align with Ed.
@mp800858 жыл бұрын
He thinks it's an absurd excuse to eat dogs and rhinos for mystical powers, but eating fish just because it's always been that way doesn't sound weak to his ears...
@dumbliberal72858 жыл бұрын
chicken lives matter !!!
@susanfabrican22446 жыл бұрын
Event organizer is well-versed in his field. Good point about not having children helps the planet! Seems that he might go vegan. Great interview Ed!🌱🐾🐕🐾🐶🐾🌱
@VeganPirateNinja8 жыл бұрын
very interesting! he did move further and further - clearly feeling defensive and he got quite heated, even though you asked very clear questions in a peaceful way. Even though it's important to maintain some endangered animal species, I would say it should be a priority to end animal agriculture instead because it's destroying the planet and our collective health as humans in addition to all of the suffering involved (whereas the endangered species don't suffer in that way or scope). And even if individuals would choose to focus on this wildlife, (like you said) they could still be Vegan and spread their message.
@theparasitesofyoursky98787 жыл бұрын
BUT MUH DUUGS *eating a steak*
@Askalott4 жыл бұрын
So this guy can travel all around the world advocating for lions but it's too much effort to swap meat for beans on his plate?
@bonenettle8 жыл бұрын
For those interested, Dominic (the man being interviewed) made an... interesting speech at the festival that same day. See it here at 1:28: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6jYgItohsaVf68
@HooliganSadikson8 жыл бұрын
From 17:18 a popular misconceptions , diet is just one aspect of it.... (exploitation) traveling... (no exploitation) the interaction we do in cities and towns... (no exploitation) the way we use energy... (no exploitation) When you go vegan you STOP taking part on animal "EXPLOITATION" If you are not vegan you are taking part on animal exploitation.
@SacreDHippiELovE6 жыл бұрын
“I don’t have time to worry about the chickens”.... smh