Should The Tank be Up or Down?

When adding refrigerant to an HVAC system, does the refrigerant tank need to be upside down to add as a liquid or is it okay to leave it upright to add it as a vapor? In this video I explain the difference between adding refrigerant in liquid and vapor form, I talk about blended and single component refrigerants, and I also explain how to properly add refrigerant as a liquid. I mentioned a vaporizer in the video, here is the one I was referring to on Amazon:
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[@WordofAdviceTV]

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[@pinballrick6031]

Another great informative video. You have a special knack for stating the obvious without sounding condescending, for going into detail without causing the viewer to become glassy eyed and for getting to the point without rambling. Love the channel!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you! I appreciate the positive evaluation of the video and hope to make future videos in a similar fashion!

[@darkenergy5686]

What an informative video. Now if I could only find an honest and conscientious air conditioning tech.

[@Boboftime69696]

The safest option is avoiding the big companies👍

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Glad you found it useful! They're out there so don't give up. 😉

[@Ratlins9]

You just listened and watched an honest, conscientious air conditioning tech.

[@princezay3608]

Just become one bro !!

[@princezay3608]

I’m digging the hat bro I went to UEI a few years ago and have been doing commercial hvac since!! Wonderful trade and you definitely helped me in the past get through a few brain farts 🤣🤣 like ohming out a compressor

[@francom6230]

Excellent video & concise explanation.. I like this guy and his accent is easy to listen to.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you! Glad you found the video useful and easy to follow along with.

[@bowlampar]

It's noted, thank for your clear, easy to understand explanation Thump up!

[@bigd3104]

I've always kept a Kwik Charge on my gauges for around 40 years now. Never wanted to risk damaging a compressor. Good explanation on blended refrigerants. Thanks!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

You're welcome! Thanks for confirming that the Kwik Charge works good! On a side note.. You've used that adapter longer than I have been alive. 😅 It's an honor to have you frequent my channel sir! God bless you and may you have an amazing new week!

[@andresbarragan8595]

FROM CHICAGO IM YOUR #1 FOLOWING YOUR VIDEOS. EXELENT EXPLINATION THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@WordofAdviceTV]

My #1 Following from Chicago!! I appreciate you sir! You're welcome and I bless you to have a spectacular new week!!

[@saudiwave]

Perfect demonstration.. it’s the first time i new that information. Thanks.

[@paulrozinski1488]

Great demonstration and simple, clear explanation . That beautiful background is also a great attention keeper. Great job as always, Jay. 👍👍👍

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you very much good sir! 🙂

[@ali.7708]

I offer you respect and gratitude for the information you provide on this useful channel, and I thank you very, very much with deep appreciation for you and your information.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@jungapo2]

thanks for prompt reply. i also googled about this already. you are absolutely correct about your information. i am not hvac technician, but i have some background how ac and refrigeration systems work. thanks again.

[@sheilam4964]

Thx for filming this and sharing it with us.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by for the new video!

[@llampallas66]

Hey Jay, as your commented in the 7:54 mark with the unit off, I don’t believe you can open the suction side as you’re saying and leave it open if you’re putting liquid refrigerant because when the compressor comes on, you will also slug the compressor, you can open the high side or liquid side and yes, you can add all the liquid you want through there. But other than that, I love your videos. They’re all very educational. Thanks

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes, thank you for the correction! It is better to do it as you explained. Glad to hear you love the videos!

[@LeuCustomKnives]

Niiiice. Explains why an hvac tech I used to use added r22 both up and down.

[@ttb6384]

Thank you Jay if it s possible can you make an install video step by step thank you again for your efforts

[@arturolara1417]

Great channel great video for new people to the trade

[@pellechi1]

Very informative … thanks …

[@WordofAdviceTV]

You're welcome! Glad you found the video useful!

[@kenk3102]

...thank you Jay for a very informative video.....very well explained and answered the question I've always had "why do I add freon R22 with tank upright and R410A upside down?"....and now I know.... 🙂

[@WordofAdviceTV]

You're welcome! Glad I could clear that up for you. 🙂

[@johnvictor2451]

Very well done!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you sir! 🙂

[@eddiee2371]

The big problem now (just mho) is to find an hvac tech who knows this while he's screwing with your system. I'm sure you'll agree that standards have lowered a little bit across the board. Excellent video. Thanks for the education. Catch a cold? 🙄 oh boy. 😂

[@tommyro5723]

Great explanation!!!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you! 🙂

[@DavidHernandez-gt9bo]

Nice explanation ! 🏝️

[@harrydickson4575]

Awesome explanation 👍👍👍

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you sir! Glad you liked it! 🙂👍🙏

[@JOEDECESARE-xe9sz]

That was a great video Keep up the good work

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you, will do!

[@Eddy63]

Great info explained very well ... I'm so slow , I couldn't catch a cold Aloha my friend ... Thx

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you sir! 🙂 Haha one of those times where being slow is actually beneficial right? 😄 Aloha Eddy, good to see you! Hope you have an amazingly great new week!

[@netalekh6443]

Thank you so much!👍

[@WordofAdviceTV]

You are welcome! 🙂🙂

[@supernova8962]

TY so much...this is very good info

[@Mark-h2e5c]

EXCELLENT VIDEO! THANKS! Catch a cold... LMAO!

[@hubercats]

Awesome video!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you! 🙂

[@SmooveBee1]

R410A should be charged as a liquid only - its written on the bottle.

[@spelunkerd]

If you're adding liquid refrigerant, would it be appropriate to add it to the high side so that there is. a longer path back to the compressor, allowing it to boil off before reaching the compressor?

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes you are right! It is better to do it that way. I stand corrected 🙂

[@jimmyaber5920]

NO. Using vapor pressure of the storage tank to add to a partially charged running system requires low side charging. The high side will have more pressure than tank, and the pressure in tank may reach the safety release tab pop off range and is DANGEROUS. Adding to low side with tank inverted to get liquid for the mix refrigerants is the norm, and slow addition to allow vaporization is the method to avoid compressor damage.

[@netalekh6443]

God bless you!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you! God bless you and yours as well!

[@westonwatts6606]

Nice!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thanks! 👍

[@WallaceRoseVincent]

Do blended refrigerants eventually separate over time? Is this how the EPA is making the world better?!?!?!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

As long as there is no leaks in the system, they shouldn't be separating. I understand the sentiment about the EPA though. I wish they never banned R22, it was the best.

[@Ryan5Cool]

Hey Jay! I love your channel and it’s very informative as a 19 yr old hvac apprentice. I’ve watched a lot of your vids and taken notes on them. However, I haven’t seen much on the metering device and would love to hear your take specifically on those. So, Could you make a video about the metering device and all the details about it? Thanks sm and God bless.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Hey man! (great career choice btw!) There are already many videos on KZbin explaining how the metering devices work so I didn't feel the need to make a video on it. Or were you asking for a more simplified, basic explanation?

[@Ryan5Cool]

@WordofAdviceTV just a more simplified version because I like the way you teach. Other people are great too, but you make it a lot easier!

[@Barryd57]

I would never add a blended refrigerant. If u invert the jug, you risk flooding the expansion valve. I always use weight, amps, and my gauges so I recapture first, evacuate second, and then charge. Buy a small scale so u can weigh the tank as it empties into the system. Make sure you have lots of air blowing over the condensor. Also, keep the windows open (when working on a car and leave recycle OFF).

[@TofuInc]

410a is near-azeotropic and studies have shown there is very little, less than 1% fractionation. Most heat pumps and also a lot of refrigeration equipment will have an accumulator before the compressor suction line. With these types of systems there is really no issue with flooding the compressor as you shouldn't be adding enough liquid refrigerant to overwhelm the accumulator. I know that it probably beyond the scope of this particular video.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you for a more detailed explanation on 410a!! Much appreciated! 👍

[@r410a6]

So you should charge with the cylinder upwards? And if so then why refer to the cylinders arrow at the side?

[@klabkebash]

Did you drop in a "Drop In" refrigerant into an R-22 system? Or did you convert the system by reclaiming any existing refrigerant and replace the filter driers, pressure test, pull a vacuum and charge up with the replacement "Drop In" freon?

[@kkovler1]

What about adding oil to the system that lubricates the compressor. How and when?Maybe another video to answer this one!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you! That's a good video idea but I'll have to leave this one for someone else since I've actually never added oil to a compressor before.. I don't think it is necessary to do that. I've seen 40+ year old units that worked great without any oil added through their lifetimes.

[@Brian_L_5168]

Hi Jay, when you service customers AC system, do you prefer using blended or single-component refrigerant? The Hawaiian view behind you is so soothing to see on a Sunday morning. Always learning a lot from your vids ! 💯

[@WordofAdviceTV]

R22 (single component) is my favorite as it is the easiest to work with. I wish this was the only refrigerant used, that would be amazing. 😄 Glad you liked the video and the Hawaiian view! This really is a beautiful state, we're blessed to be here. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!!

[@jhunacosta6621]

Thank u very much...

[@marshallwright3875]

Great video Bro

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thanks bro! 👊

[@Olds_Pwr]

From what I recall, adding as a liquid, it would always charge faster.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes, there is that too. It does go in faster as a liquid. Thank you for pointing that out.

[@dennismcnamara6377]

The oil in the refrigerant doesn’t enter the system when you add as a vapor, right?

[@WordofAdviceTV]

That's a good question. As far as I am aware, there is no oil in the new refrigerant so this would not be a concern.

[@rightlydivided]

I appreciate you. Fairly new sub but you are very good

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Welcome to the channel! Glad you liked the video!

[@elgordo8784]

Good stuff 👏

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you! 👍

[@Tko_Seven]

Should I shake the tank for vapor form refill, like so in car ac refilling?

[@alfredorubio2233]

thank you for the video, what kind of vaporizer do you recommend?as far as what brand of vaporizer do you recommend?thank you very much i just read in your comments, on Amazon also thank you for the tool list recommendations.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

I actually don't use a vaporizer at all so I can't really recommend one from my own experience. This one seems to be the overall favorite though: amzn.to/3Wze3Qv

[@beammeupscottsp7952]

Hey man! Question about hvac, we just a new one installed, the new ac will kick on if it goes past the 1 degree threshold(set for 76 and it’ll kick on at 77). Our old carrier lasted 20 years but had a 2 degree threshold (set for 76 but kicked on at 78). I’m just worried at 1 degree is worse for our compressor because it’ll kick on and off more often. What do you recommend? The 2 degree split meant longer run times which might easier on the compressor in theory?

[@jungapo2]

how do you know if blended refrigerant will change ratio as gas versus in liquid state? was there measurement done to confirm this? anyway, good info!

[@WordofAdviceTV]

I have not done any testing of my own but the manufacturers of these refrigerants have. Some bottles will actually have instructions on them that specifically say to "add this refrigerant as a LIQUID ONLY".

[@bobyeager6104]

Great and informative video! Of all the drop-in replacements for R22. is Bluon TDX the best or a different one? Thanks

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Glad you found the video useful! I can't really give you a good answer for that since I've only ever used the TDX. 😇 It works good in R22 systems so I don't really want to experiment with a different one. But of course if possible, using the actual R22 is best if you can get some.

[@bobyeager6104]

@WordofAdviceTV thank you. It's always a pleasure

[@erixgar4117]

Hey good to see you videos again! . Do you think that it’s necessary to replace the txv when replace r22 for tdx20?

[@WordofAdviceTV]

In most cases it's not necessary. As far as I know. I haven't worked enough with TDX-20 to be confident about this.

[@hubercats]

Am I correct to assume that refrigerants never come in containers that have a tube that runs from the valve to the bottom of the tank?

[@francom6230]

Yes, to my knowledge none have a dip tube. Btw,, He very well explained what took me years to gleen from hiring many ac techs being a building manager.

[@hubercats]

@@francom6230: Thank you!

[@wholeNwon]

@@francom6230 Actually some do. Simply Google for a list, if you're interested.

[@sensismell42]

Recovery tanks will have a dip tube but illegal to charge with them unless it's the same equipment being recharged after a repair.

[@hubercats]

@@sensismell42 : Thank you!

[@65cbtengr]

Up is vapor, down is liquid

[@alexandershilling]

Our 410 a will be replaced with our 54B and R 32 refrigerant

[@anilpunj580]

In like 2035, 410a isn't being phased out, production/importation will only throttle down in the coming years

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes, it will be a slow fade. 😉

[@borshardsd]

I respect you and your channel. The content is made to generate views and comments. But really, the epa has a test for a reason... if you don't know you shouldn't be doing it for multiple reasons

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Thank you, I appreciate your feedback. That is a fair assessment. I do want my videos to generate views and comments. But this video in particular I only made because I got asked this question many times in my other videos. But I do agree that when it comes to refrigerant, it is better to call someone out.

[@borshardsd]

@WordofAdviceTV you're a gentleman and a scholar. It's your show and my opinion doesn't change that I'm a fan. Ty for the reply and keep doing you regardless of our opinions sir!

[@phoneblaster]

...that is a great video man. I was looking for something like this as I am new to all this lak. Just a question if I can ask please. Say the airconditioner is off , not running. If I am charging the system say with the tank uprigt is that then the High Side ? or is it the other way round,? . Also how do you use guages then if the gas id 'blended'' like the tdx2 ? Many Thanks.

[@waynelam550]

Tank up for vapor , tank down for liquid

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes. 👍

[@John-zz5gt]

Cool beans

[@acemenace7411]

there is no drop in replacements for refrigerants

[@bigd3104]

@@acemenace7411 R-424a can be used as a drop in replacement for R-22

[@LeonSKennedy7777]

What would go wrong if you use a so-called “drop in replacement”, like the tdX20 he shows in this video?

[@bigd3104]

@@acemenace7411 R424a

[@WordofAdviceTV]

This is a debated topic so I don't want to claim anything.. Refrigerants should not be mixed but I have added TDX-20 to a R22 system before and it worked great. (I did not mix it with R22) You just need to make sure that the refrigerant oils are compatible.

[@acemenace7411]

@@WordofAdviceTVgotcha 👍

[@mikeadler434]

👍👍

[@poncedeleonrefrigeration9197]

You forgot R12 as single component refrigerant

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes, thank you! R12 is also a pure refrigerant.

[@juliopla1611]

👏👏👏

[@tryntingoering9896]

can’t buy this if ur a homeowner, against epa regulations

[@Yadickhead]

And when your only halfway up your neither up or down😂😂😂😂

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Lol yeah, something like that. 😅

[@scpatl4now]

Technicians are all about redundancy ... thus, the soda can bottle 😛

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Practice and repetition are great teachers! 😉

[@steve6631]

I guess... if you have a poor memory... you'll always be OK. If you turn the bottle upside down.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes, exactly! That's why some technicians are only taught to add refrigerant as a liquid. That way they will never mix things up. 😄

[@bills6946]

This is precisely why you must possess a license to buy and handle refrigerants. You must have proper training to pass a licensing exam.

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Yes, when it comes to refrigerants it's best to leave it to the technicians if possible.

[@diesel-legend]

You don't need a license to buy refrigerant

[@alanlacosse8850]

Just leave on its side to get the best of both worlds ....jk

[@WordofAdviceTV]

Lol, now that you mention it... I totally forgot to talk about the the third, side option. 😄