Should We Be Worried About Xbox? ~ Spot On

[@KyleKida]

The only bad thing about this is Sony and Nintendo having even less of a reason to try to compete because they know you'll end up buying it anyways

[@abemickeygaming7742]

Does money no longer exist? They still want to make money with or without xbox

[@MyAnalyser]

The best Playstations where the ones that had the smallest competition, the PS1 and PS2. The worst Playstation was the one that got the most competition from Xbox360 and Nintendo Wii, the PS3.

[@kevinamadi]

​@MyAnalyser Honestly, the lack of competition in the PS1 & PS2 eras is the REASON we got the PS3...

[@MyAnalyser]

@kevinamadi no a miscalculation on the hardware is why we got the ps3 era. They made a machine that was incredibly difficult to program for while Microsoft made a much simpler machine. Despite this the two best game series ever spawned in the PS3, Demon Souls and The Last of Us.

[@Ksizzle11c]

This is my concern. I don't really care about Xbox, but I worry about PlayStation having a monopoly on its particular market. Xbox outperforms PlayStation with backwards compatibility and I think it's a little more consumer friendly in that they do offer refunds for digital games (which I think every game company needs to adopt).

[@Mvb91]

Who would buy an xbox with which u can play 50% of the games, when with a playstation ull be able to play all 100% of them? This is excluding nintento ofc.

[@mikeuk666]

Citation on all games... literally 3 in a rumour

[@librarygary1618]

​@@mikeuk666the widely circulated rumor that has also been reported on by sites like business insider, Forbes, etc is that Xbox is planning to release future first party games on other hardware (PlayStation) instead of just PC/Xbox. The two I've seen most talked about is Starfield and the Indiana Jones game, idk what the 3rd game is.

[@MrSec84]

​@@mikeuk666 there has also been chatter about Halo and Gears, tbh if Sea of Thieves still has an active user base and that's in the running, then every is possibly going to come over the PlayStation and potentially Nintendo systems. Of course no one knows for sure until Microsoft talks, but the rumours do insinuate that everything will eventually come, but even if it's the plan, it's going to take resources to port those games to PlayStation and Nintendo, plus there could be a measure of timed exclusivity around stuff like ES6, the next Gears, Halo, etc, because they will have been in development for XBox and PC first.

[@Pancake49]

I bought one and it’s nice

[@TeamCryptidRobotics]

They must have decided that they make more money if buy their games on PS than if you buy an xbox to play their exclusives.

[@robbysalz8710]

Uhh....you guys are missing the point. As customers, we feel scammed with a bait and switch. "Buy this console if you want these games" was the value proposition.

[@roymarron7622]

Yeah but people is not buying the Xbox, it doesn't matter to Microsoft if you feel baited, they care about the money they are losing with the ton of consoles they haven't sell. lol

[@Taco-man_]

Why did you support them ? Maybe you learn your lesson.

[@BlueLightningSky]

All these games were gonna be on PC day 1. You knew the terms.

[@David-nd4to]

But Xbox don’t sell anything. It’s all game pass

[@gerowen]

You're still getting them though. Nobody is saying Xbox won't have those games.

[@belgianbull4722]

Exclusives is what sells consoles. Same way that Netflix gains customers when they create quality programing like Stranger things and Squid games. Same goes with HBO with Game of Thrones. Disney with Marvel. Exclusives is the way people identify with products. Game Pass alone will not have people buy the next console since PlayStation has PS Plus.

[@Nick-pc9tf]

Don’t care. Play anything anywhere is good for consumer and makes business sense. Tell a Studio invest quarter million in a game that you can only sell on one platform. Nah, sell everywhere and make money everywhere.

[@TheLoneDrow916]

​@@Nick-pc9tfthis is pure naivete

[@YouVSMeTV]

​@@TheLoneDrow916No, it's an unfortunate reality. If it isn't, then why did Sony put their 1st party games on PC?

[@TheLoneDrow916]

@@YouVSMeTV low risk high reward. PC isn't a direct competitor to PS5, PC doesn't have true AAA exclusives that most PlayStation games care about. If Xbox puts it's exclusives on PS5, it will lose all relevance as a gaming platform and it will quickly plummet in adoption and retaining it's playerbase. And possibly even tank to failure in the next 5 to 10 years

[@dante4111]

Xbox needs quality over quantity

[@harry1178]

And they have none.

[@ghosts2169]

Exactly they have a ton of games but most of them are goy slop

[@holitinne]

It’s too little, too late.

[@OrangeJuicePapi]

@@holitinneway too late. If next generation started today. there is literally no reason to ever get an xbox.

[@wttruax5816]

feels like the argument should then be no more exclusivity period. why hold microsoft to this standard and not Sony or Nintendo? exclusivity is important to a lot of ppl because it informs purchasing decisions. i dont mind them going multiplat because i can afford to own all the platofrms (including a decent PC), but like you said a lot of ppl cant afford to. im sure many xbox fans are feeling like they got duped and thats why it matters

[@Chris-lq8zk]

i think this is where it’s heading next years. xbox and sony will have the same games

[@ronthorn3]

lol that’s not how businesses works, a massive company isn’t going to just play fair because that’s what the consumer wants, they do what benefits their profit margins.

[@jacksonjabba]

@@ronthorn3if that’s how businesses work maybe that’s the problem? Corporations are legally obligated to put profits over the consumer and can be sued by shareholders for not doing so, so maybe if we want better games we need broader economic reform?

[@GreyLion86]

@@jacksonjabbaFunny how all these people instantly became armchair economists isn’t it?

[@1anre]

You nailed it. The uncharted comme t at the end seemed like an afterthought. He should've started of either saying Sony needs to held to an identical standard

[@TokenDestroyer]

I hope they talk about this on the podcast, because this is not a great take in my opinion. This is coming from people who have multiple consoles and PCs. They probably didn’t have to make a choice on what platform to stick with.

[@tropicata]

What? Less exclusives directly benefit those that can only stick to one platform. They even bring it up in the video. If all you own is a PS5, then having Starfield come to Playstation is objectively a good thing and has no negative impact on Xbox players. By your logic Tam and Lucy should be championing for exclusives since they own everything, but they aren't. They're using common sense

[@TokenDestroyer]

@@tropicata Like everyone else is saying in the comments, you’re missing the point. this does impact the current player base by essentially saying they should have purchased a ps5 or a switch because the games that were assumed to be exclusive to xbox are now on other consoles while the other platforms hold a ton of exclusives that will not be coming to xbox any time soon. Yes in a perfect world, this makes sense if all platforms did not have any sort of exclusivity, but that’s not reality.

[@Eeveefall]

​@@tropicataConsider the pov of people who can only afford one console, if they chose Xbox then they kinda unintentionally shot themselves in the foot because they locked themselves out of PS exclusives when they could have benefited more by choosing PS over Xbox. Maybe this is why console wars are dumb but the truth is not everyone can afford both consoles and not get themselves locked from other great experiences

[@Johnny77mutt]

Totally agree. I'm on PC and don't own either console but I'm feeling for the people right now that can only afford one or the other and chose Xbox. Now they could have played spider-man and gow plus everything they can play now just later down the road. I could afford both consoles now but I always put myself in my younger shoes when I had to choose.

[@leandrowngo]

@@Eeveefallthat’s how one feels, but the reality is nothing will change. If you lose access to your games or the Xbox console gets planned obsoleted then I see the point. That’s when you actually lost something on money you spent. But you don’t lose anything. You lost just that feeling of tribal gatekeeping.

[@Alteredfrenzy]

If Microsoft drops out of the console market entirely, then I don't think Sony let's Gamepass onto Playstation. That means that Xbox hardware has to continue and that means exclusives have to continue, or at the very least, timed exclusives.

[@harry1178]

What are you talking about? Sony already has an equivalent of Gamepass, why would they let Gamepass in? What are you babbling about, dude?

[@hyrel668]

Even if Sony did allow Gamepass on Playstation, don't forget that Sony gets a 30% cut of all games and transactions on their platform, and I highly doubt Xbox would fine with losing 30% of Gamepass revenue since we don't even know if it's profitable now when they take 100%.

[@harry1178]

@@hyrel668 Stop with that. Why's everybody talking about Gamepass when comparing Xbox to PS5? It doesn't make any sense, PS5 have their equivalent of Gamepass. That's called PlayStation Plus Extra or Premium.

[@KingAgniKai]

​@@harry1178PS Plus Premium doesn't have day 1 AAA games launch on it. They aren't the same since Gamepass loses money and is unsustainable

[@peacefuljim7758]

Interesting times! I'm glad for the change. As someone who started on Nintendo, moved to Playstation, moved to Xbox and then finally to PC, I've never been attached to one console. I used to buy whatever console I thought gave me the best access to the content I wanted to consume. It was always a thought in the back of my mind; "Why don't they just have all games on every platform?". After moving to PC, I never really had to worry about that anymore, but I digress. I think not having exclusivity is a good move.

[@belgianbull4722]

With PC you hardly have access to all games. Don't have access to Nintendo games, and many PlayStation games. True that eventually many PS games become available on PC for some games it takes years. Just looking at last years game of the year awards as PC gamer you wouldn't have been able to play half of the games nominated for game of the year ( Zelda, Mario Wonder, and Spiderman 2). Furthermore for the price of decent gaming PC you can buy a PS5, XBox series S and Nintendo switch). For an average PC, including a big screen monitor you can probably throw in a PSVR 2 and Oculus quest 2.

[@iftea7]

100% agree, let us play ALL our games on whatever. Good job Xbox.

[@hugobarakas1187]

Xbox owners now have $1,000s of dollars in game purchases tied to a dying platform.

[@Turner_D_Century]

It’s not fanboyism, it’s one less competitor to keep Sony in check.

[@KingAgniKai]

Xbox wasn't competing anyway. Not for the last 2 generations.

[@leedsalex]

@@KingAgniKai The version Playstation+ improved so much in recently years is down to gamepass. The reason why Playstation makes so many high quality first party games is to make sure you buy their system, without xbox they have no need to improve anything.

[@Dave0zz]

Total failure to see the point. The issue for Xbox owners is that, when they chose a console, they considered which games they could play on each platform. But if you can go to a competitor and play all their exclusives PLUS all xbox games, then THAT is clearly the better platform. It also nearly eliminates any reason for others to purchase your platform over the competitor. Your takes were insensitive to those with limited incomes. Just to clarify, before the comments start, I do not own a console. I'm a PC gamer.

[@Monoliftsoft.ninja..]

You guys don’t think big picture competition keeps everyone in check and also makes innovation. It’s good to pick the plastic they love because nobody has the time to play on all systems. The console war is needed

[@cerromeceo]

I agree

[@Alex_Logan22]

Problem is Xbox hasn’t been competitive.

[@Reezy884]

I honestly think they just realized they could no longer compete in the gaming market of console sales and exclusives like Nintendo and PlayStation

[@st33ldi9ital]

Microsoft could literally buy Sony and Nintendo...

[@Reezy884]

@@st33ldi9ital and Disney or Apple can buy Microsoft. What’s your point….

[@JoBo52]

Phil said it himself - they lost the console war in 2013 when PS4 trounced Xbox One. These consoles became all about digital purchasing, which has carried over to this gen. Fewer people are going to want to switch platforms when giving up on all of their digital purchases.

[@JoBo52]

​@@st33ldi9italnot with the FTC around

[@JoBo52]

​@@Reezy884lol Microsoft is worth more than both those companies.

[@andrewrussell6299]

These two presenters are clearly not living the real world. The point is that if you have spent £400 on a console because Phil Spencer made the promise that you were going to get exclusives when how could you not feel like you have been lied to. Those people including myself would have been better off buying a Playstation. At the end of the day the curse of exclusives will only end when both sides decide to give up them up.

[@CondorCalabasas]

Id rather watch people like you talk about the subject rather than sheltered game journalists.

[@ogopogodragon]

I wont be buying another or the next xbox if this happens, just the PS5. Saves me $500 thank you. Oh except PS will now charge $800 for PS6 as no competition. Arg.

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

I don't know, man. How many people do you think actually buy Xbox for exclusives? Honestly, it's Halo, Gears or Forza, that's not a lot to choose from. Sea of Theives is great, but it's not selling a console. On the other hand...Ghost of Tsushima made me borrow a Playstation, just to play it, AND I bought a brand new copy ($100) just to experience it. Now, where it does get dodgy is the Activision/Bethesda acquisition. Why bother buying all that if you don't want to make better exclusives with those devs????

[@PaulM68322]

After years of failure if you put your faith in Xbox again really you only have yourself to blame

[@gerowen]

You are still getting those games though. You are losing nothing. The only thing that might change is your ability to brag about what games you have that other people can't play if they don't have the same proprietary plastic box as you do.

[@hododod246]

If Mario were not exclusive, we would never get Sonic, Sypro and Crash. If PS2 were not this successful we would never get wii and eventually switch. Without wii most of the vr hardware companies would struggle to adapt motion controls. Competition is super important and 1st party exclusives are the corner stone of it. If xbox doesn't exist it will hurt PS community most. Without xbox, Sony would charge at least 700$ for PS5.

[@FieldMarshall17]

They already do in Canada 😂

[@abemickeygaming7742]

That won't happen because they still want to make money ...Xbox hasn't put out a great exclusive since 360...and that hasn't stopped sony from dropping bangers ...because they want our MONEY and in order to get our money that have to beong the games ...competition or lack of competition doesn't change the fact that they want our money and have to drop bangers in order to get it ...yall give Xbox too much credit thinking they are needed in order for Nintendo and Playstation to keep bringing great games...money is enough motivation for companies

[@DustinLittlefield]

@@FieldMarshall17 country demographics, import tariffs, sales tax, are probably why

[@invisiblemann8457]

There is a line and I don’t like that this video seems to say it shouldn’t matter if Xbox gets rid of exclusives. If stranger things goes to Amazon then why have Netflix. More importantly Xbox is known to have a big social community. Most game content creators talk about Xbox because of this. Community is drawing a line on the big exclusives if you pay attention people care about the ips from 360 on back. Point is if you disregard the community all together you will lose subscribers mostly because that since of community will be gone. When Wolverine hits and PlayStation starts dropping bangers Xbox console players may start looking a lot harder at ps5 and more importantly what comes next

[@librarygary1618]

If Xbox users haven't already been thinking of switching in the last 10 years that Xbox decided to stop making good games, they're probably a lost cause at this point.

[@invisiblemann8457]

@@librarygary1618 Xbox has no games has been dead for some time now

[@bobbybananas703]

There is a very reasonable concern that by bringing everything third party Microsoft will de-emphasize their console hardware and eventually phase it out completely. I think only the loudest, craziest people are mad about more people playing games, but being concerned that the platform you have invested money in might become dead-end and obsolete is a reasonable worry, imho.

[@josiahkhani3667]

I think the main worry is just that it doesn’t give people much reason to buy the hardware aside from gamepass. If hardware sales drop (I don’t see how they wouldn’t), it doesn’t make much business sense for Microsoft to keep competing in that space for decades to come, and the lack of competition will only hurt consumers (as we’ve already kinda seen it has in a lack of innovation from Sony).

[@abemickeygaming7742]

As if the lack of games hasn't been doing that ..its a reason why xbox console have been selling extremely poorly for like 10 years

[@Alex_Logan22]

They’re seeing with Steamdecks they don’t need exclusives or competitive prices to make money off hardware.

[@jsm19701]

So Sony have free reign to charge whatever they want for games now if Microsoft leaves the hardware business, which they will.

[@TorgeAlex]

If they release all their top games on ps and Nintendo, the Xbox console is as good as dead. Why would somebody pay for a console that has only multi platform games (most of which you can play in a f browser via streaming), instead of buying another one, that has the same games+exclusivities. This video failed to answer this big question. Ofc Xbox as a brand is not going to die, since they will sell games to all, but the console will lose any incentive it had

[@SKNGame]

You guys keeps missing the point that those of us who loves all games could have bought a ps5 and get to enjoy more games bar Nintendo. $500us plus shipping and taxes ain't cheap !!

[@TheCamcamTV]

What does that have to do with this video?

[@MarluxiaX2]

Why are you waffling and yapping so much dude?

[@Nechrome9]

He's saying why buy an Xbox if you can get all their games on ps5 AND playstation exclusives

[@balloonedraccoon2503]

What?!

[@Fat_Thor_1138]

life’s about choices, you made yours and come next week we’ll see if it was a good investment. Also if you really wanted to you could budget $500 if you can’t you got worse problems than picking an Xbox or ps5

[@davidm2168]

Would you be reacting or thinking the same if tables were turned and it was Sony? No wouldn't. But this is why the communities are the way they are.. Why doesn't Sony put spiderman, Horizon, Gow, and Last of us over on xbox? I rest my case... Because according to you, what difference does it make or why should you care where you play it or on what eco system... You'll figure it out..

[@chrcoluk]

The guy is right, exclusives are anti consumer, there is no downside to games being multi platform.

[@infernas]

People who are "loyal" to brands are weird. I buy products and hardware based on what they can offer me at the moment, but if that stops or shifts at any time then I buy something else - I don't get mad about it. I've changed phone brands over the years, but I didn't boycott the manufacturers or scream about it at the top of my lungs just because their company shifts directions due to business demands - I changed brands/platforms and moved on. I own an Xbox - will it limit or affect my enjoyment of the thousands of dollars worth of digital goods I've purchased on my console over the past decade just because they might go multiplatform? No? Then why the drama and rage. This generation is weird.

[@landonewts]

Microsoft and Sony make games to make money. I think most people understand that. Most gamers are on a budget, and have to pick one console because that’s all they can afford. We make our decisions based at least partially on content. Sure, there is also brand loyalty - but when brands don’t reward that loyalty, people can feel betrayed. At the end of the day, I don’t think people are necessarily being mindless about console loyalty. For a lot of us it’s an economic thing.

[@dylanwinston3]

Finally a rational adult take. More people being able to play games is good for the people who play games and who make them.

[@PirateOfTheWastes]

People saying as an “Xbox fan” and being upset are insane. Look at what you’re saying, “as a FAN” of a brand that’s out there exclusively to make money. Why are you fanboying for either console? How does this tangibly affect you negatively. Will your Xbox stop working? No. Have they said they’re no longer going to support their consoles? Not yet. Everyone is so quick to judge and be emotional. These are businesses, out there to make money and make cutthroat decisions to ensure the bottom line. Get over it and stop behaving like children tying your allegiance to some made up brand or box

[@D.J.Paige71]

Dude, your take is clearly from someone who can afford multiple platforms. Your take is actively anti consumer. Im saying this as a playstation player.

[@TheCamcamTV]

Games need to be available to all players. It only makes sense since they can take advantage of a player base that doubles that of Xbox.

[@worf7271]

If Xbox brings all of their games to Playstation, nobody will ever buy an Xbox again. Making their games available everywhere will destroy any remaining reason for Xbox to even exist.

[@TheCamcamTV]

@@worf7271 Xbox had a good run. They still have game pass and they can release games first on Xbox. I love people being pro corporate. Be pro consumer

[@mikeuk666]

​@@worf7271Sony refuse to support early access games like Valheim and Palworld

[@jonahbogacki3017]

As an Xbox player, ultimately I agree that making exclusive Xbox games available on multiple platforms is a good thing and it makes sense.

[@JV-ll1cu]

I am an Xbox player. But why I would be that in future too if big Microsoft Studios games are coming to Playstation?

[@michaelstanbrook]

Phil said great games don't sell consoles. Wrong!

[@theunknown1426]

I'm just worried that in a few years (when M$ stop supporting xbox) my series x will be an expensive paper weight and also without competition from xbox sony will get arrogant, start ripping customers off and game quality may also suffer

[@colbyjt85]

You guys stated that being able to afford every platform for gaming is a privilege which is a bizarre way of looking at things. If a person was gifted everything I could see the argument but the vast majority of people work so they can afford certain luxuries like gaming. Maybe you two should ask for a raise from gamespot so you guys don’t feel left out

[@_Cetarial]

You shouldn’t worry, because this is just a dang rumor. Wait for Phil to say something.

[@blueshwoo]

Having Xbox games on PS doesn’t hurt the value of the Xbox? Uh it literally directly affects the brand by making it irrelevant…. If you can buy a Big Mac at Taco Bell, THAT HURTS MCDONALDS!!

[@abemickeygaming7742]

No one wants an xbox though and that's because of the lack of quality games and thats what hurting the xbox

[@brooklynmurrau7926]

Not if Mac Donald's is getting the money

[@Rockdude300782]

So having been a PlayStation owner like forever, my son at Xmas begged me to switch to Xbox so he could play there exclusives so we reluctantly sold the ps5, this would be very annoying and will be switching right back if rumours become true.

[@jurassiclobotomy4196]

I don’t think I’ve yet seen any game journo actually get why someone might find this upsetting beyond blind tribalism. Buying a console is an investment, very often based on what games it will give you access to. If you were persuaded to buy a console based on its advertised exclusives, it may well be the case that you would never have bought that console if you knew to begin with the games would be available elsewhere. And it may well be for the best for Microsoft to do this, but the complete lack of understanding of basic consumer perspective from games media on this one has been odd.

[@itsdeonlol]

We will just have to wait for Phil.

[@willnatmartin]

Wow! I guess those Microsoft checks must have cleared.

[@TheJasonaut]

Buy/absorb a huge studio group for billions of dollars, leading to mass job cutting and all the negative things that pretty much ALWAYS come with giant mergers and acquisitions, THAT'S tooootally cool. Releasing games previously exclusive to other platforms, that THAT is terrible. I really wonder about the general public's ability to think reasonably or do anything but rationalize within a small selfish window.

[@paulkinder8440]

If that ends up being their strategy, i don't see 3rd party or indie devs flocking to make their games on an Xbox, why would you?, when PS would have the console monoply. I see 3rd party and indie devs not prepared to risk a loss developing for Xbox.That in turn would pretty much commit Xbox to being a publisher of software and consoles wouldn't be in forefront of their strategy. Sony could pretty much dictate their prices, how is that good for the gamer?.

[@______4575]

Really dislike the tone of this take. I spent 500 bucks on an Xbox which locks me out of playing PS5 exclusives. I was doing so thinking I was making a trade-off. Game pass + a few decent exclusives. Now, it's Gamepads + no exclusives. Had I known that, then I would've bought a PS5. This makes me regret buying an Xbox and makes Xbox seem untrustworthy. Therefore, that's a bad business move.

[@liokizer]

🫵😂

[@stuartmorley6894]

Why? You still get Gamepass. You still get to play the same games. You aren't losing anything you have now. Why does it matter if someone else gets to play it? PC and mobile players already get access. You've lost nothing. Someone else you don't know got to play a game.

[@librarygary1618]

My brother in Christ, literally anybody could have told you that you would regret buying an Xbox Series X. People were literally only buying them because PS5's were sold out.

[@thepews1511]

We are moving past the console and on to platforms yes but that's still years out you're not going to see anything PlayStation on Xbox you're not going to see anything Nintendo on PlayStation Xbox is giving up its identity for sales in the here and now. The passiveness from games media about this is so weird to me. Are y'all really that out of touch?

[@dwfidler]

Don't forget there's been a lot more recent enforcement in Europe of antitrust policy. If the console makers are going to continue to buy up game studios, then they can't force the game studios to switch to or only release on the parent company's console platform. It's entirely possible more rules like the EU's recent opening up of the Apple app store ecosystem could be applied to the PSN and Xbox marketplaces.

[@Duobrothersfriends]

Xbox is doing the right thing, games for everyone!! Nintendo and Paystation should do the same

[@deshaunfortune912]

Monopolies are bad

[@mikeyplayzwrld]

You spelled PlayStation wrong.

[@Damacius13]

Sorry dude, never gonna happen. Playstation and Nintendo are extremely successful, Xbox basically admitted that can't compete with the enemy, so they join them.

[@liokizer]

🫵😂

[@Aquacav]

@@Damacius13bro it’s so funny to see how fast Xbox switched up and cowered over to the rest of the market. I’m an Xbox player.

[@BurandonHeat]

Microsoft should have kept Gamepass on consoles. That play anywhere gimmick just made people migrate to PC. Why buy an Xbox when you can upgrade a PC and still play the same games?

[@SteadyAscension]

It’s elitist to think that everyone can just buy every console every generation, so when you purchase something it should feel justified. Why do you purchase an iPhone over the Samsung and vice versa? It’s because you like those exclusive features to the software. If you could have just bought one phone got everything, you would be mad about spending all that money on the more limited platform. Honestly please bring better and more thoughtful insights, instead of labeling the community as “toxic” fanboys

[@ornamentalpotato]

7:06 the titles you discuss as potentially benefitting from a wider player base are known quantities. Gears, for example, was first released over 15 years ago. It had all of that time across so many different high and low cost options of consoles, as well as through a myriad array of other low cost entry points like Samsung TVs, game pass mobile, etc. And yet it hasn't happened. MS pitched the consoles and the platform they offered as the best way to play to its player base. The bethesda/Activision acquisitions were played as a signal that the investment xbox players made were being matched by MS. (Wasn't Starfield reportedly a PS exclusive that MS wanted to headoff?) I think xbox players upset about this because they saw MS expanding what it meant to be in their ecosystem in a way that didn't diminish xbox loyalists investment. By putting their biggest and newest in-house games on all platforms, what is the point of having an Xbox? MS is making it seem like those loyalists made a mistake, even after they spent nearly 100 billion dollars to make themselves stand apart.

[@deshaunfortune912]

Some games being multiplatform is good, all of them, not so much. I don’t see enough journalists talking about how PlayStation would become a monopoly if they had access to ALL of the Xbox library.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

one that will have been handed to them by their erstwhile competitor? whose fault would that be? would PlayStation get sued by the FTC in that case

[@deshaunfortune912]

@@WeeWeeJumbo can you really blame Xbox's shortcomings on PS being successful?

[@MrMzee12]

you guys have it wrong this is not abt loyalty as a business move this would only make sense if they stop making consoles, exclusives sell consoles Sony knows this. Xbox is just admitting defeat honestly me as a gamer I'm happy but Xbox as a company is failing. Even the game pass system is a win for gamers but Xbox as company is running at a loss keeping that thing running i mean $5 for a ton of AAA games thats crazy. Xbox should have focused on building a good exclusive catalogue like Sony they failed themselves, we dont care though just give me Gears Of War on PS.

[@romulodrumond3526]

Honestly, becoming an open platform, is a good thing for games, for sure. Even if the Xbox console die, Microsoft focusing only on software, technically, could mean more and better games

[@michaelmorton6566]

Funny how nobody asks is Xbox going to get the playstation exclusives in return for this deal ?

[@MrSec84]

It's all because XBox doesn't have the audience that PlayStation does, same goes for Nintendo, both PS and Nintendo have massive install bases compared to Xbox. Though I think Xbox will still make hardware, but more contained PC devices, including a VR device and Switch like Handheld.

[@michaelmorton6566]

@@MrSec84 Even if Xbox has half the amount of players that Playstation has thats still alot more potential game sales for the exclusives that they have wich is better for the game developer

[@Ebolachicken]

is bad for xbox eco system remember they sell subscriptions too not just games

[@ToniSkit]

Wouldn’t this be the contrary? I mean if they can sell their subscription on ps network they gain clients

[@chrisfoley3620]

Xbox fanboys can't pay enough to support your console choice lol 😅

[@TheAlchemistZero1]

Why do people have favorite sports teams? Tribalism, it's what humans do best.

[@1anre]

GameSpot talking way off point to get engagement to their page? Tgen gaslighting xbox fans as if they're babies for wishing their own platform dominates, too? I can't see a 15mins from gamespot warning Sony from sandoxing and keeping their games so tied to PlayStation GameSpot needs to allow it with this one. Hope Phil also doesn't erode all his goodwill he's built over the years and dump that mess on Sarah Bond after hes made to retire really

[@retroperfecto]

Youre missing the point..PS kind of started the whole exclusive thing. So yeah, I am loyal to my "plastic"

[@kosciarz]

Just realese Halo for ps and I will be happy! Man I will buy third time Halo: The Master Chief Collection no joke!

[@Aquacav]

If Sonys exclusives don’t come into Xbox it’s over

[@librarygary1618]

😂😂😂 WHY WOULD THEY EVER??? 😂😂😂

[@RDRGUY15]

Xbox needs Sony not the other way around. Remember that.

[@KellyKMc]

Very tone deaf take for those that invested hundreds of dollars for a console and 200 dollars a year for Game Pass.

[@KellyKMc]

@@robf we don’t know what is going to change yet. The day and date on Game Pass is could change and may already have changed for CoD. I am concerned about changes to service that make Game Pass less attractive.

[@Eeveefall]

​@@robf idk, I think a lot of people who can only afford one console that chose Xbox feel a bit cheated out when they could have benefited more by purchasing a Sony console.

[@bigfootwalker5399]

PlayStation is the Past, PlayStation is the Present, PlayStation is the Future!

[@leandrowngo]

It’s not like you’re losing access to your games like how shows are taken away from content libraries when licences expire.

[@landoncapaz5725]

I Agree KellyKMc It's pretty bad, it's definitely using customers money and false hopes for the future of the console, to set up the infrastructure for a new revenue stream, using the backs of loyal supporters.

[@9unslin9er]

I bought my Xbox because I love the hardware and controller. I like how they invested in making the most perfect controller of all time. I could buy a PS5 at any time, but I hate the design, I hate the controller, I hate the UI.

[@Paul-fi7og]

Man xbox is 💩 always has been. Their exclusives stunk. Im not surprised. PS 4 life

[@rafaelribeiro99]

10:58 "except for pc =)" HAHAHAH that caught me off guard, good one lucy

[@mickaelazi5759]

If nothing else, cheering for a particular console is entertaining. And appreciating what differentiates it from the competition in one way or another is nothing to be ashamed of, Tamoor. It’s just good old fashioned fun. But that’s just my opinion.

[@whitescape]

The point is not players being envious that other players on different platform will be able to play the exclusives. But rather if other platforms have their exclusives AND Xbox exclusives available then there's no point in buying an Xbox anyways

[@BarnardoPlays]

Microsoft owns the devs now. Before when they had exclusives, devs took a loss on market share for Microsoft to gain by pushing console sales. Now MS own the studios outputting the platform exclusives, it means MS directly is also losing out on the market share by locking them them out of selling on PS. It's just business, and indicates MS are pretty confident about their overall market position that they don't feel dependent on platform exclusives to force people onto their console.

[@b0n3crasher8]

No. No. Keep it on Xbox

[@jer103]

Many games are starting to have "cross platform play". One main reason to release a game on all the platforms.

[@RuTube981]

I hate the rhetoric that people hate that other people are playing the same game. They're not upset that people are playing the same game. They're upset that they could have gotten the OTHER console and played EVERYTHING instead of just a few games that would have come to that platform anyway. Because the other thing that rarely anyone is talking about is this: Wouldn't playstation or Nintendo benefit from putting their games out anywhere? But they don't because they know in the long run that's how you sell consoles and build an identity and take mindshare of the market. I'm sure they made more money on MLB the show now that it's on Xbox. (Well they didn't since it's on Gamepass and they didn't see a dime of that money). But they'd rather just keep it on Playstation because it's just one more quality game that adds up reasons to buy and invest in the Playstation ecosystem.

[@superjlk_9538]

This is good. I already own a PC. I have no need to buy an Xbox

[@mikeuk666]

Sony refuse to offer or support early access games like Valheim and Palworld on gamepass

[@lukmanlukman6847]

When you put your exclusive day 1 on gamepass, Then you need to make money by selling the game at full price. PC gamer will always use gamepass rather than buy from steam store. Anyway, selling game at full price will maintain the game quality, rather than free by subscription

[@happycloudgamer1088]

According to Nate the Hate, source behind Hi-Fi Rush coming to other platforms, says that Starfield coming to other platforms is pure fiction "I'm now of the Belief that Starfield is not happening & the info spread around was pure fiction, I'll own this miss"

[@onlinecitizen3266]

My honest opinion is that I am in support of any developer publishing their games on multiple platforms. I know that isn't the standard approach for Nintendo or Sony, but I don't see it as a failure on Microsoft's part to do this. The drawback is that whoever is making the game will face added challenges with making their game work on multiple systems. But, where it's accomplished it is something to be applauded! (long as the ports aren't terrible). I'd feel the same if Sony made more of their exclusives available to X-Box. It's silly to want to 'hoard' jealously whatever exclusives are on your chosen console. We're all consumers and lovers of video games. Puts us all in the same boat. 'Console Wars' are antiquated thinking.

[@SavageSaint9]

In a perfect world this would be great. But this world doesn’t exist. Xbox will now have LESS triple A experiences than every other platform. Rendering them irrelevant to any true gaming enthusiasts. Why would anyone want another Xbox when all their games will be on PlayStation and PlayStation will also have Spider-Man, Wolverine etc exclusive to their platform? If Gamepass were simply enough to sell consoles it would already be flying of shelves. They’ll disincentivize their hardware quickly here.

[@symol30872]

I think you guys have missed the point around exclusives. The issue is why would someone invest in an Xbox when you can play those games on rival platforms with their own exclusives and get to play everything? If more people abandon the Xbox platform due to this reason, why would Microsoft continue to invest in it? If Microsoft one day abandons the console from lack of support, what happens to all our digital libraries? Why are these questions never thrown at Sony or Nintendo for their exclusives putting them on PC/Xbox?

[@manuelmedina8427]

People are naturally tribal, that’s why people choose sides. It happens with sports, operating systems, cell phones, internet providers. You name it.

[@JamalPennant]

There as been set times exclusives for many years now. Both playstation and Xbox been doing this for many years with first party and third. Playstation has been putting 1st party ( last of us ect) on pc also. So not sure what the complaining is about 😂

[@ImChaotic1]

Exactly finally someone gets it.

[@Adarkane325xi]

The ““console war”” is made up by the Kool-Aid drinkers from both camps. I’m an adult, everyone i know has (at least) both consoles, some have Switches too.

[@J.a.v.i]

The last Spiderman and God of War didn't hit the numbers Sony was hoping for. So I wouldn't be surprised if within a decade we will start seeing Sony 1st party titles selling on other platforms like Xbox (on a 6 months to 1-year delay of course). These games are getting more and more expensive to make so return on investment will need to be much higher so selling on all platforms will be a must to keep investors happy. Sony has investors they have to keep happy as well.

[@Nick_Kearney]

If Microsoft left the console business entirely, as long as they figure out a way to respect my digital game purchases, I would have no real complaints.

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

Xbox is not gonna stop making consoles, people are just spreading misinformation And please stop being attached to microsoft or any corporation and feeling like they just broke your heart....TOUCH GRASS....for god sakes, idc about the console war stuff, that's the truth and you either can't read or hate the hard truth

[@deshaunfortune912]

They would be forced to if all of their games were available on PlayStation and Nintendo.

[@mikeuk666]

​@@deshaunfortune912where does it say all games kid? Literally 3 games rumoured... wow

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

​@@deshaunfortune912 how would it discontinue console production let alone new ones, exclusive was just exclusive, games were, not the console

[@baryalnoor6346]

Xbox on becoming a software/gaming service instead of the gaming hardware. Which will be unique, and it might turn out good for xbox.

[@goncaloferreira3804]

Always trying to make Xbox problems PlayStation problems.

[@Hash6624]

It kinda is though, if xbox pulls out, Sony will have almost complete control of high end console market which might make prices on PS go up because its not like anyone else is going to give you better offer, because there is no one else

[@uptownmurda]

Thank God Xbox ain’t listening to these two.

[@Mango-nc6qe]

The media outlets pushing a single platform will need to answer when all the Xbox devs are let go as they’re no longer needed is one way to go.

[@massinirev2283]

Great to come across some common sense during these chaotic times. Todd Howard for one would want to squeeze as much revenue from The Elder Scrolls VI as humanely possible. This decision will serve both the players and the developers.

[@hemantkumarbarapatre]

i love both xbox and playstation , but this MS move as a gamer really breaks my heart

[@wzt9376]

Why tho ?

[@TehStylishone]

A Halo multiplatform would be awesome.

[@GastenX]

Well.. you want your favorite developers to thrive so they can make more games. So as long as they have money to continue, people should be fine.

[@KennyPowersGaming]

Games should be for everyone.❤ i can’t fathom them Not wanting more money….. Gamers uniteeeeee

[@decoyfox]

Xbox (& PS) really needs to drop the multiplayer subscription fee, modern consoles are essentially bootleg PC's with tons of restrictions, extra fees & expensive games, this was ok when we had decent exclusives and no cross platform / cross play. Now we do I think console die-hards are starting to feel taken advantage of.. Why buy an Xbox when a PC is better in every conceivable way?

[@maximnewman2483]

I think if it turns out that the games are also coming to PlayStation, there is still worth in having an Xbox. Now I own steam deck, ps5 and switch. If you have an Xbox, you’re still getting the games day 1 on gamepass. Which the others will not. We will have to pay full price for those games. So unless that aspect changes, then it’s still worth having an Xbox.

[@rashaudwatkins8175]

I just think it’s a sign 🪧 how much Xbox One and Xbox Series X,S was major screwups!

[@iordaniskaravasilis]

Love the discussion Guys I can't speak for all Xbox owners but I think our issue is not so much that again or multi platform we're worried that Microsoft wants to do away with the console itself

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Xbox they say is finished. And yet, they found a way to compromise the playstation.

[@mfnick7536]

Missing the point for me. Nothing to do with being a console warrior, fanboy, etc. I’ve got 90% of my games on Xbox, what I’m worried about in future when no one is buying an Xbox - because why would you if all the games are on PS too? Then what happens to all my purchases when MS decide or no longer make Xboxes since they no longer sell at all. I’m looking to switch to PS for this reason alone. My only issue is I can get games far cheaper on Xbox and I have the same issue as Tam whereby the Dualsense kills my hands.

[@Procksy]

I think it really makes sense for Microsoft / Xbox to pivot into the handheld market and more directly compete with the Switch 2 and Steam Deck. They'd (hopefully) be more tightly integrated with a Windows 11 OS. Game Pass would be a very easy bundle/upsell. People would be less mad about losing physical media as it'd be difficult to get a disc drive on a handheld. Could even be able to sell an EGPU dock for it to keep pace with more demanding titles. Series S already has devs target a lower spec. So it'd be a similar split of mobile/docked versions. The experience that their hardware division has could definitely carry over, Surface and Xbox controllers have great build quality. Imagine a Controller Lab style customization for a Steam Deck like device. Customize colors, sticks, face buttons etc when you order. Might be wishful thinking on my part but if it launched at like 499 for the handheld and maybe another 299 for the EGPU dock that can ideally be upgraded later, I think I'd pull the trigger on it. As of right now there's zero reason to buy a Series X/S if you have a decent PC or a PS5, and the writing on the wall says there's going to be even LESS reason to do so.

[@hamzaarari7774]

why it's normal and good that Xbox share exclusivity and not even a question that playstation should share their exclusivity

[@NecroMoz]

People who know the wider Microsoft corporation understand that they’re not very interested in exclusive hardware or software.

[@IcarusDawn]

Ngl, I’m seeing a big tinge of PlayStation bias here. Good for Xbox Game Studios Devs if they are able to put all their games on all platforms, where is the call for PlayStation Studios to do the same? What’s going to happen when all Xbox games can be played on all platforms but PlayStation Studios games can only be played on PlayStation?