Showmaker Takes Caitlyn to Midlane

Full Lethality Mid Caitlyn
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[@LoLDobby]

Happy New Year ! www.deeplol.gg/summoner/kr/dwgkia Showmaker's mid caitlyn stream highlights → kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnSTin2Imp1kZrc

[@Cya-Shi]

I like to imagine ShowMaker's WOW with those huge autos

[@dwp_orange8416]

it was fckin hilarious on his stream 🤣🤣

[@tuanbuianh1884]

he did lmao he’s just too entertaining

[@Ahrone1586]

what

[@dothangbui4918]

wow*@@Ahrone1586

[@derrickdezmond8214]

Your mother is WOW when I pull up.

[@fennikk2569]

How is this abomination working in high elo? 2:53 ...

[@Kayra5138]

7:48 play safe mid

[@michaelbread5906]

So basically Aram Caitlyn for the last 8 months.

[@SwainixFPV]

I've gotten one shotted from just ult with these builds playing as a squishy adc in aram too lmao

[@Dreamer-MS]

Before Youmuu is nerfed. Her R can deal up to 2000+damage on paper as well. Glad to see this build used in normal matchup.

[@fffaaa8371]

It literally says aram build

[@michaelbread5906]

@@fffaaa8371 it does now. Guy edited the title.

[@kyourara]

I just watched his video about this few days ago , it was hilarious seeing him laugh and have fun.

[@TheAcademik]

It's funny because xsfn Saber was doing this Lethality build on Caitlyn in high elo for so long this year, but he actually ended up quitting league because of how "un-fun" it made league. I think he said it was just not interactive enough. Soon as someone gets on your screen, they end up dead xD.

[@truetichma]

That actually makes sense. Kaitlyn mid is basically just like Jhin mid: lane adc bully, long range ult for helping sidelines. Also a bit safer thanks to E. Same weaknesses as well.

[@vgamedude12]

Marksmen need to be giga nerfed. People keep taking them into other roles but no one is allowed into their role and you pretty much need one on your team every game. Not fair.

[@Jony01011]

Nilah and Yasuo are completely playable in the botlane, even free win into some matchups. The problem isny really marksmen, but that botlane is a really snowbally for the 2v2 and squishiness and giving the champs that scale the most with gold exactly what they need is kinda bad

[@vgamedude12]

@Jony01011 nilah is practically short range vs melee and yasuo has abysmal pickrates and is generally a horrible pick. Same with nilah. And that's with windwall and everything else. To have have that and still pale in comparison says alot about ranged vs melee Also both were designed to be played in bot and are still not that good at it. Especially nilah who literally has duo lane mechanics built into her kit. Nilah emerald plus is only like 2 percent pickrate yasuo at 1.9. It's so obnoxious to play melee and short range vs adc that's why top lane has so many aids marksmen counter picks. I even remember faker losing a 1v1 to a way worse player while faker was on akali because the other guy played tristana. That should never happen. If marksmen want the easiest highest dps in the game they shouldn't also be good enough early to bully people early in solo lane. Its bs.

[@mudora5156]

wtf are you even talking about? we have yasuo, yone bot lane being completely accepted and encouraged by Riot. not to mention that mages almost replaced ADC's bot lane and Riot is still very happy seeing mages bot lane.

[@vgamedude12]

@@mudora5156 mages never replaced adcs bots. You literal iron bots who repeat this line haven't spent two seconds looking at stats. Even in peak mage bot they never even made up 10 percent of overall bot picks. That isn't "replacement" it's an off meta alternative. Don't type if you don't know what you're talking about.

[@bleh8407]

phreak season

[@PinkeySuavo]

i picked it vs yone, did pretty good at zoning etc, at 6 vi started ganking and they just killed me every time she had ult xD

[@Kimeowra]

Can you do a video on Druttut's Kaisa top? It has similar vibes where you one shot people from a far. It has better options if you engaged on though.

[@Kultyras]

pls dont, I dont want nerfs on kaisa, its my free elo pick lol. I mean...she sucks!

[@khangphan6764]

I would pick Ahri top. Better lane bully, okay in team fight. Kaisa need alot to scale.

[@lucian3676]

@@khangphan6764 you're already powerful enough once you upgrade your q with manamune, and you're literaly god with luden + book, I've been doing kaisa top since happychimenoise's video and saw %65 wr on diamond elo, drututt didn't invent it

[@khangphan6764]

@@lucian3676 But yeah you will get your Q upgrade at lv9 with Manamune. It's a freaking long time bro. Idk man. I just can't find her strength compare to other ranged top @@

[@ThePykeSon]

Overbuffing Caitlyn into oblivion was a good idea ~Phreak, the guy with no mana

[@Cybrtronlazr]

Caitlyn is literally one of the worst ADCs before challenger. Only challenger players or few specialized one tricks make her viable. The reason they don't buff her is because if they do, then pro players who know how to abuse the range would win bot lane every time, so a QoL buff like reducing shots for headshot is the only way they can make her better for 99% of players.

[@Jangz_]

It feels illegal to not have at least 1 point on W

[@leoleo1035]

yup. Literally made to zone opponents. Getting a trap trigger is just bonus.

[@gazoilelechantar5093]

This is a certified phreak szn classic

[@faselfasel2864]

Is it that time of year again? 😴

[@Baphominx]

4:16 crazy how singed used his teleport to help this scenario and then J4 ulted on top of that on a dead person, to guarantee that cait wouldn't die.

[@kikikillian1208]

The Singed was peak high ELO player. The J4 was having fun

[@user-sn2cx7fb5w]

just ksing bro

[@abbasnadiri3031]

DEMACIA

[@logan7732]

i play alot of cait mid youll auto lose a lot because jungle assumes you're trolling and you get sat on by enemy jungle relentlessly. Wouldnt recommend trying in anything lower than diamond.

[@aitran2703]

Im try this, actually you need a good spacing skill and becareful with gank from enemy jungler

[@ElfosDeMordor]

Yeah, i dont think lane bullies in general are good before high diamond

[@elHUmanRevolution]

Phreak szn

[@tedetilo.7433]

You should review drututt's kaisa top

[@eebbaa5560]

he should review drututt’s entire champion pool

[@scarl2t]

dota 2 technology

[@capivarasuprema5516]

darkk mane predics the meta once again

[@wrath5420]

Self defense

[@SuperOreoify]

great to see xFSN Saber's build showcased in the midlane

[@peyches00majickmanshin2]

Caitlyn mid looks pretty strong when she's 1. Fighting a leblanc for 60% of the video 2. Fighting a veigar with steel caps. Meaning he's in auto range of caitlyn 3. Fighting a level one Taliyah/ Ezreal who E's in and dies. 4. Or absolutely giga fed.

[@davicarvalhodesouza7260]

I've used this against champs like yone/zed and I goes pretty much the same. Just be careful and don't act like you have hp to spare. Make them use their key abilities and abuse their lack of range or just don't feed them after you get killed once or twice. Instead of trying to get kills like the caitlyn on this video, if your match up isn't good, focus on helping your team in other ways (ganks, objectives, vision, team fights) and just try to keep your lane ok(ish) 😊 Furthermore, most of the time, if your jungler helps, caitlyn mid can win against most champs that would otherwise destroy her by herself (yasou/irelia/the ones above/sylas/kassadin)

[@ThePaceMaker127]

Showmaker learning Self Defense!

[@wrath5420]

Dude i really like your reference, gonna this video again rn "Guys you know what is dangerous? Everything" and "Friendship test"

[@giang1350]

how could cait survive that long in the beginning

[@luquier599]

oh hell ya, mid adc lets go

[@chalkenjoyer]

thank you dobby now my midlaner autofill will run it down with this pick

[@jackeichenberger766]

Screw this video. I had some idiot try this in my game and got gapped by syndra so hard we lost.

[@NightridingDoom]

took a while for people to catch up to this. Midlane cait is extremly broken. Malphte is not much of a counter. You just have to rush eclipse instead of collector. As a result, there is no point in taking Hail of Blades. You instead go for grasp, demolish, conditioning and overgrowth, with legend alacrity and last stand or Cut down. If malphite is any good, he will max W, harrass with Q. This gives you plenty of opportunities to proc grasp pre6. You rush Eclipse against tank malphite or Wits End against AP Malphite. If there is more than one AP diver or if malphite is extremly troublesome, take maw of malmortious instead. Both ways, you second item is eclipse (Enemy dive and tank heavy) or divine sunderer (Enemy is immobile). After that you continue with Serylda, and whatever else you need for defence. Yasuo and fizz are pretty much a no bueno for lethality caitlyn. However, triforce caitlyn can deal with them. You do need Lethal Tempo though, and you go for Lethal Tempo, Triumph, Legend Bloodline, Last stand. With Second wind and overgrowth as secondaries. Start dorans shield, as you will be half hp a lot if the enemy is any good. Against Yasuo rush ninja tabi and triforce, against fizz you go wits end into triforce. The sheen effect will more than make up for the loss of damage of lethality. However, your ult will not oneshot enemy carries lategame, and you will be more about dps. Third item is almost always steraks, giving even more survivability against divesrs.

[@AmyaDB]

"cait mid is broken" .. -45% winrate

[@davicarvalhodesouza7260]

​@@AmyaDBdoesn't a low win rate only mean the average player can't use it well?

[@AmyaDB]

well for how low amount of games is it, majority are OTP playing it, you can check on lolalytics, so yes but not in this situation@@davicarvalhodesouza7260

[@mastaaceexclusive]

you are giving away too much. the public does not need to know about this

[@vtennic]

Wasn’t the build nerfed?

[@marcobaldini4589]

Apparently not enough

[@spreak2623]

LB started E what a horrible example of trading

[@ericbatas7099]

how this abomination working high elo simply showmaker

[@haku1082]

first patch ADCs are viable in mid: mid laners: hold my beer mages bot are dominating bot for years: bot laners: reee adc role so weak buff my champs riot

[@shawnknive]

MUST ABUSE BEFORE RIOT HOT FIXES!

[@newvikturus]

This is a cait's casual gameplay, nothing special

[@GunsandChains]

xFSN Saber crawl so Showmaker can walk.

[@KitsuraASMR]

Darkmade did it first.

[@irisyamaru]

How tf did they have vision on Leblanc at the end

[@Deanbeyers1984]

I play lethal cait mid and I’m called a troll with a 61% winrate. Showmaker does it and he gets a video. Fuck the world

[@krisnayosep7121]

can cait Lethal build melt tanks ??

[@kruange3761]

it`s been meta for 2-3 months. and only now you telling about " OP KOREA STRAT"

[@eebbaa5560]

i think adc should be viable in mid, just not this stupid oneshot bullshit that you can’t interact with. i wish lucian mid was good not caitlyn

[@KienEevee]

3:10 Actually I think this play was Flash E not E Flash. You can even see the Flash came into cooldown earlier in the bottom left corner. Still a good video like always.

[@converser]

I'm already seeing the same Caitlyn builds in my games, but they're in bot lane. It's obvious why it fails terribly.

[@WhiteHairSupremacy]

7:24 Nice Caitlyn name there 😭

[@rafaelsantileces6301]

Caitlyn kinda look like Touma, Kazusa from White Album 2 lmao

[@elijahcuna8119]

I remember Bjergsen playing Cait mid a few years ago while KR bootcamping

[@derp_sherpa]

Another day another Adc mid

[@2BXD]

RUH ROH

[@khangphan6764]

Players in Diamond will know their pain with my Caitlyn mid tonight hehehehehehe.

[@creatorhandle02]

이 형 해외채널 있었어?

[@Lucasfr10]

All the new builds comes from aram 😂😂

[@Khora]

"How is this abomination working in high elo?"

[@XenagarD]

because riot doesn't properly nerf adcs and has a favoritism for the classes in bot lane.

[@TurkeyMeat]

​@@XenagarDcait has been around 47% winrate for literal years my guy

[@XenagarD]

@@TurkeyMeat 49% in dia plus, that basically means in every two games she wins one. It isn't even a bad winrate if she's at 47%

[@XenagarD]

Besides we've been in adc meta for the last three years.

[@TurkeyMeat]

@@XenagarD a 3% winrate difference when there are 5 players on the team is absolutely huge, especially when ADC has the lowest game impact for the first 25 minutes which is when the majority of games end. 45% winrate is literal garbage, 47% is D tier. I'm not making claims about ADC in general, just cait, but just because showmaker is doing decently on the pick doesn't mean anything about the champion lol.

[@ConCheaterWurst]

headhunter cait is the best cait skin -change my mind

[@deividiaz8001]

pues keria la usaba asi pero de soporte xd

[@Rafahlakhs]

Dobby i love your videos a long time now,it is so fun to watch and learn new stuff.I like spending my time like this.

[@kaimatthews9]

whats the counterplay to this cancer

[@CorwinCh]

Can we all thank xfsn Saber for a second here

[@bryangofficiel]

Lol the video i have been waiting for ! it's been a year i am doign this build in master elo and people kept flamign it's troll meanwhile the ennemies get One shotted

[@faizameen8208]

hey dobby can u do draven guide

[@fordring3306]

don't try this at home

[@shlomosuke]

I'm very surprised by the whole "don't take w" thing. There's no scaling on the e so, besides lowering the CD, it doesnt bring much. Albeit it obviously is already a lot, I feel like the traps bring a bit more map control and can allow for some nice cc chains. I don't know it's just odd in my opinion.

[@TurkeyMeat]

It is a debatable point - for instance xfsn saber who popularized the lethality build went w max second always. The argument for e max is that you get so much cdr from the build that you have plenty of traps, and often don't use them all, but more nets is great for escapes and gives more reliable headshots.

[@monkeydonkey6932]

ye the traps are better

[@aitran2703]

​@@monkeydonkey6932nah trap suk. Im not a main cait so go for the W is a bad choice for me.

[@skyflakes145]

You only take E in lvl 2, unless you have a support that allows you to chain cc, after lvl 2 just keep lvling W no matters what. The point is that no one steps on trap in high elo unless they are already cc, but since caitlyn mid doesnt have a support she just cant land a W, also, E helps you to disengage

[@LarlosHunter]

@@aitran2703 well im a Cait main, maxing W increases your crit scaling from passive and increases damage to enemies who step in the trap

[@twxfive76]

i thought she was nerfed

[@Daragh356]

Certified ARAM Classic

[@snake7052]

could you do druttut akshan top?

[@faye8440]

i main cait and the lethality build is nerfed really hard on her so I suggest everyone use it very situational (better when the opponents are squishy) and it is difficult to comeback from losing/late gold income especially when the enemies are fed and tank(ish) the lethality dmg wont do much in fight, while you may build shieldbow to counter tanks, crit cait does far way better. Though since usually mid laners are squishy mages, leth cait will work well in early if you abuse them lol i would try to use cait in mid but def only for once.

[@Rotsen44]

i see a dobby video, i click, simple

[@freshairkaboom8171]

Idk, I think Cait mid is strong, but I think you should go crit instead, that may just be me tho. Your ults will still hurt of course, but your autos will delete people and you can be an extra good objective taker, which is one of the main reasons to be an adc mid.

[@LionKingofWrath]

Seems interesting, but I wouldn't build lethality though

[@vroxer21]

yea, this showmaker guy has no idea what he is doing

[@King1Z7]

​@@vroxer21yeah, for sure. Bro's gotta be trolling

[@eebbaa5560]

@@vroxer21why are you dickriding lol. he didn’t even say showmaker was wrong he just said he personally wouldn’t build lethality. glazing

[@angpham941]

Lethality Cait was "gutted" once recently, but she still works. Truly a Riot games moment

[@gajdjzkavf]

a xayoo jak zawsze trendsetterem

[@MegaChickenPunch]

pedziem

[@niallyv]

first

[@Yoshisaurusrexdino]

first

[@XenagarD]

Only riot will nerf a champion because people complained about their one shot ult spamming build, only for it to still be in the game cause it's an adc and riot hasn't properly nerfed them for the last 3 years. See ap kaisa w still one shotting, see zeri etc etc.

[@erynith550]

Atleast it's not a bruiser dealing the same disgusting damage and not dying

[@ambiguousspotlightofinsani6764]

If an adc manages to get this ahead, the enemy deserves to suffer for being as stupid as to not kill the said adc earlier

[@ludwig1672]

as some what of a draven player, i really dislike the fact draven Q can not get crit bonus, while cait passive can

[@seepeewee5432]

I feel like Draven would dominate especially since his early game abuses the q base dmg and then giving him a late game would be terrifying since one kill if he doesn't die is worth like 3 kills not to mention that sometimes its worth holding on to the stacks to give his ultimate an execute, but that's just my take.

[@Jony01011]

Quinn passive also cant crit, meanwhile riven can... Riot moment

[@ludwig1672]

@@seepeewee5432 in late game, or even mid game i feel draven is useless, the fact cait just one shot you with crit passive, and u need at least 3 axe to kill the cait