Sia Music Movie - Sia Speaks Out About Autism Movie Backlash

With Sia Music Movie coming out soon, I found out that Sia spoke out about the bad repetition the Sia "Music" Movie Trailer got from the autism community. But with Sia now talking about the autism movie's controversy, I decided to see what she said in the article following my previous video on this new autism movie.
Sia's Movie "Music" is set to release in February 2021 and I want to review "Music" when I can. Would you want to see me do a review on Sia's Movie? Also, what is your opinion on Sia speaking out about the backlash from the autism community?
As Sia's Movie represents the autism community, there was a lot of backlash and I made a video giving my thoughts on the situation at the time. But I wanted to clarify some of my points made in the first Sia Music Movie Backlash video, Sia's involvement with autism speaks, talk about the petition to get "Music" canceled, and more.
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[@IndieAndy]

Hi indie people! With this video, I tried to clarify points made in this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3OwhZetj7ybkKs But guys please be respectful when leaving your comments as last time I talked about the Sia thing, it got messy really quickly. So be mindful that people may not share the same opinion as you and please ensure we are commenting with proof of it's something Sia said as well. Like I say, I don't want to spread misleading or misinformed info. Appreciate you guys ♥️ Andy

[@dracawyn]

I can't believe that after all this time and after all this backlash... she's still like this. How can you be that out of touch? And people accuse *US* of not having empathy.

[@kendrarasberry3078]

Seriously.

[@gauntlettolife833]

I think Sia needs glasses so she can Sia better & take those NT earplugs out so she can HEAR Autistic people & OUR expertise on OUR 24/7 experience.

[@thunderdashsweirdmemecrap9078]

I'm disappointed in sia, she had an amazing song in the My Little Pony movie, but she's ruining her reputation with this movie that doesn't do well with portraying autistic people like myself, it makes me sad

[@beckyh5975]

The adult male on the A word has autism in real life and plays the part of a man with autism which is awesome!!! Everything youve said, especially about cancel culture is spot on!!

[@IndieAndy]

You know what I forgot to mention Travis who plays Mark in The A Word. His performance is so good!!

[@katiepylman]

I appreciate your taking the time to address your own emotional state and clarify your points and the information you had available at the time. I still think that this is a case of Sia not knowing what she doesn't know and assuming she's an expert because she's only consuming media (not research) that validates her own biases. She can have every good intention in the world, but good intentions don't negate bad decisions. Accepting that you made a mistake and working to do better is what is important, and she still seems not to have acknowledged the amount of hurt she has caused except to brush it off because she was tired and that makes it excusable.

[@IndieAndy]

Thanks Katie! See I do think that the intention was good as I said in the video. But there's a massive difference how those intentions are portrayed or shown. Like the movie could be good in intent but could shown bad stereotypes etc. So yeah I really agree with this and would like to say thank you for commenting a fair comment 👍

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

My thoughts definitely haven't changed, it sounds like Sia wasn't nearly as well informed as she believes, and quite frankly, she shouldn't be saying anything if she's just going to put her foot in it. Sia needs to get it into her head, non-verbal does not mean they cannot read, write, or even type, it is exclusively about speaking.

[@IndieAndy]

👏👏👏

[@kittyrosefaerie7464]

Like you, I want more characters in media who are autistic.. More positive representation. People on the spectrum deserve to be normalized. Just the other day my grandmother was saying that (TRIGGER WARNING) she would never keep a child that was Autistic. That autistic people are "vegetables", and that it needs to be cured because when she was a kid it didn't exist.. it absolutely broke my heart. So many people (especially over 40 years old) have this mindset.. And many "autism mommies" and organizations like autism speaks just further stigmatize something normal. Autism is normal. I am skeptical about the movie for a few reasons, most of which are related to Sia's behavior throughout this whole thing. She just comes across as lacking knowledge on the subject, which worries me.

[@sylvan6415]

I am so sorry your grandmother said such horrible and cruel things to you regarding autistic children. She is obviously poorly educated on the subject, as well as incredibly insensitive. I am an autistic grandmother and can assure you it very much existed when she was a kid. The fact that a lot of autistic people (like myself) went undiagnosed for a long time doesn't mean it wasn't there, and having gained a university distinction I would hardly class myself as a vegetable! Ignore your grandmother in this regard, she is talking utter codswallop. If any people need curing, it is those that hurt others. The level of emotional immaturity Sia displays in her tweets worries me too. I hope her film is not the debacle I envisage, having viewed the clips.

[@IndieAndy]

Aww wow I'm sorry about that comment! It's just so wrong when people have that mindset as I imagine it's based in general ignorance. Have to say that many older people can be like this but there are those who are just so accepting and kind of us it's amazing. But this is why we need to keep in going with the awareness raising and acceptance stuff. I agree with you on that last point also!

[@kittyrosefaerie7464]

@@IndieAndy You're so kind and unbiased, that's one thing I love about your channel!

[@IndieAndy]

Aww thank you!

[@matthewkrekeauthor]

The worst portrayal of autism I ever saw was on law and order, the episode where they had an asylum full of nonverbal autistic people who only screamed, mumbled, and banged there heads into the wall, the episode actually poses the question is autism worth living with...

[@kittyrosefaerie7464]

That is disgusting..

[@EclecticallyEccentric]

What season and episode? That is awful.

[@IndieAndy]

Gosh! But when was that episode put out?

[@matthewkrekeauthor]

@@IndieAndy it had to have been a 90s episode, the guy who plays Steve in blues clues was in it I think

[@IndieAndy]

Hmm it's disgusting but in the 90s it's not surprising to be honest.

[@FrancisFabricates]

I am super worried for Maddie. She has been treated super super badly by SIA, honestly if SIA was a man everyone would be SO worried that Maddie was being groomed, while it’s most likely not sexual, she is still using huge levels of power over Maddie since she was very young. She has controlled her entire career since finding her and I am really worried about a talented young woman having her career ruined but someone as gross as SIA. I worry this power imbalance isn’t healthy.

[@IndieAndy]

I have to say that their relationship is very odd and just feels wrong in my opinion.

[@FrancisFabricates]

@@IndieAndy it’s grooming it’s just that people always say ‘women can’t be ‘predators’ which is straight but now true at all. I feel so sorry knowing Maddie a 14 year old could see how wrong this was and she is being so heavily attacked for something she couldn’t even legally consent to do.

[@phoenixlikethebird142]

I found your videos while I was researching autism because I’ve gotten so much bullshit information about my diagnosis And when I found your channel I started to educate others like my friends to be more respectful to us and avoid pushing us to deal with our triggers when it isn’t that easy I deal with ignorant and pushy people daily and I don’t want And time and time again I have to remind people of it and therefore i also have to remind myself of my diagnosis and I feel like if people just thought before doing something or saying something It could be so much easier for us to get by and not always be the odd one out I feel like the Sia movie drama thing could have been avoided if just Sia and her team did more research And no one needed to feel triggered and stuff like that and that is what I feel like every movie company should be doing for everyone’s sake and just to be honest and respectful (BY THE WAY I LOVE YOU AND YOUR CONTENT HAVE BEN SUBSCRIBED FOR 5+ MONTHS NOW AND STILL LOVE IT 💚💙💚)

[@IndieAndy]

Aww thank you so much! Definitely that when you're surrounded by people who are just not accepting, it's harder to accept yourself and feel like you can be who you want to be. I think if the research was actually good and also if more was done to find an autistic actor than it would have been better all round. Wow 5 months is mad! Thank you so much for that and hope you continue to enjoy what you see!

[@phoenixlikethebird142]

@@IndieAndy I found your channel and watched 1 or 2 videos and thought to myself SUBSCRIBE NOW your so comforting especially after a bad day thanks fore what you do and have done for me you have turned my life around I GIVE YOUR CHANNEL ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ out of ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@75maxdv35]

I reckon pretty much all of the points you made in this video were really well said to be honest

[@DVDandFilmBloke]

If I'm honest I'm still a little sceptical of the movie and of Sia, "It was 3 o'clock in the morning" yeah, sure (what goes on the internet stays on the internet). And the fact it turned into a non apology (digging herself deeper into a hole) kind of proves to me she only went to the papers to save face and the films reputation. I'm not going to cancel the film or sign that petition (because it would be quite hypocritical of me given I'm against cancel culture). The only part of the protest I will be in is not seeing the movie (and even if there wasn't all this controversy, I still wouldn't go because honestly it's not my type of film), I won't stop others from seeing it but I won't touch it with a barge poll.

[@michaelayen2973]

I have only a limited perspective of the film industry and I feel that that's a relevant viewpoint also - and I think part of the reason I've been so unwilling to give too much of the benefit of the doubt to Sia and those around her on this situation is based on the fact that there are so many resources and so many people who would have been willing to help. Even a cursory glance at any social media platform would make it clear that there is something complicated going on with autism representation - and I have to imagine that any number of casting agents would have been able to direct this production towards a multitude of autistic actors. The reality is that ticking this box is *not hard* and the fact that Sia would pretend otherwise is frankly perplexing. If your circle of potential actors included exclusively the inner circle you had already built in the industry then sure, that's a challenge. But if you actually went to the trouble of exuding any effort at all, I can't guarantee it would have been possible to find a nonverbal actor with ASD (I really do not have the most experience) but without hesitation I guarantee it would have been possible to find an actor with a good degree of understanding and who fit within the broader spectrum of autism.

[@rebieroo99]

my issue with the friend thing is he's a black man so his experience with autism is going to be different than a white girl she also had Maddie watch meltdown videos I wounder if shed watched any of them were kev

[@IndieAndy]

Hmm yeah that's true actually and to be honest as well I think if it was a poc then it would have been great to see. Also black autistic experiences are rarely showcased so that would have been great to see.

[@phoenixxam5812]

Sia can be annoying sometimes. And that also makes sense about the title of the video, Well said!

[@jedichild6815]

I am curious how you guys feel about films such as Rain Man and What’s Eating Gilbert Grape? Thank you 💗

[@IndieAndy]

Hi there! I did talk about the film on the channel. I'll leave the film in case you wanted to know my thoughts: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqTNfoyKdrBohLs

[@jedichild6815]

@@IndieAndyThank you 💗

[@emmetlover206]

she recently "apologized" after getting nominated for a Golden Globe Award. I also find it odd how Maddie isn't promoting or talking about the movie.

[@IndieAndy]

Yeah I seen that but it's really not enough in my eyes.

[@emmetlover206]

@@IndieAndy Thats why I put it in the quotations.

[@IndieAndy]

Ooh right my bad didn't see the quotations 🤣

[@Anthony-tl4lf]

Her comment on non-verbal autistic people, was ignorant at worst. I don’t believe there was any malice with that comment. On the point of people trying to cancel the film. It reminds me of the Nazis burning books, that don’t agree with their twisted ideology. We can’t just demand to get rid of stuff we find offensive!!

[@amandamandamands]

The worrying part is that Sia keeps saying that she did 3 years research, she keeps getting such basic things wrong. It would be interesting to know where that research was besides watching videos with Maddie.

[@kazzzzzzzzzz6]

Tbh i want the movie to come out already just so I can watch it and see how many wrong things they can get

[@jlam5737]

thanks for reflecting on your last video, and i agree largely with your response to the article.

[@IndieAndy]

Aww thank you! I felt it was needed and of course if something I said then isn't right then I need to do my bit to clarify it.

[@stevedryden803]

I was devastated to hear from his wife that he has died

[@isaacw1689]

Thank you for keeping your content and attitude openminded and thoughtful, rare for anybody, I find your content refreshing. Especially as someone who only recently learned that I am most likely autistic, I depend on content like yours to understand the perspective of people who are and have been a part of the autistic community, I am learning to reconcile decades of life experience with paradigm-altering new information, and the last thing I want to do is either be insensitive to others in the community or jump to assuming that all NTs are out to get NDs. Keep being you and making your brand of content, I can't speak for others, but it is always helpful to me.

[@stiffpictures8971]

I mean I haven’t been following the situation very much but I can’t support Sia with this. I don’t really like her songs anyway, and I don’t know enough about Sia herself to say anything about her generally. Music (the movie) seems really ableist to me. Movies like Wonder did their job well in my opinion, but music just seems like it’s not going to be that good of a movie with no research put into it. Sia can say she put research into this movie, and that may be true on a basic level, but the partnership with Autism Speaks shows that there may not be *enough* research thrrr Edit: there. Leaving the spelling mistake in cause it’s kinda funny but I meant there

[@carolineelstrom4003]

The fact that she partnered with Autism Speaks just shows that none of her research included listening to actual autistic people because even the bare minimum amount of research into autistic communities would tell you that Autism Speaks is not okay.

[@IndieAndy]

Hi guys, I did say in the video that there is no connection between her and autism speaks. They did have a partnership on the film's construction as far as I'm concerned. Hence why I said this in the video itself. Otherwise people have actual proof of it or Sia has openly said "I worked with Autism Speaks on the movie" then there's no partnership.

[@necelticsox]

Sia's just another out-of-touch Hollywood celebrity who needs to get away from all the multi-million dollar homes and Gucci stores for once.

[@sheroo1000]

She lives in a small home and wears sweatpants. She gives away all her money to charities and to help her friends. You don’t even know her

[@richardrosenthal9552]

I agree that the film was not handled well but I wish people would remember that actors have to work with scripts given to them. To criticize the actors as if they have some sort of control is unfair. They don’t direct the film or write the the script or research the base material. To attack the young person playing the Autistic person is putting the blame in the wrong place. Also if Asia wanted to honor an Autistic friend by doing the film it is really unfair to question her motives. Criticize the thing specifically wrong and offer help and guidance to fix what is wrong.

[@jupiterjunk]

. I'm not a fan of "Only a (blank) person should play a (blank) character". The craft, in acting, is getting us to suspend our belief of who they are, and believing who they are portraying. Say whatever you will, but that sword cuts regardless of the direction of the swing. I'm sure there are more actors and actress, in the autism spectrum, playing neuro-typical characters, than the other way around. Limiting certain types of people to certain types of roles is discriminatory and a disservice to all actors and actress everywhere. . Having said all of that. crap director + crap script + crap acting = crap film each and every time.

[@IndieAndy]

I have to say that I don't think autistic people should be stuck to playing autistic characters. I agree that it's wrong the type cast and like I say I believe it's fine for neurotypical actors to play autistic characters.

[@garyfrancis5015]

Sia not wanting to be emotional after midnight. Like a Gremlin you don't feed after midnight. DVD and film bloke would like that comment.

[@DVDandFilmBloke]

Speak of the devil XD

[@IndieAndy]

Haha this is funny! 🤣

[@Flareontoast]

To be quite honest, after she compared disabled people to wigs in an interview, it's very hard to think about this whole ordeal positively. She really doesn't seem to respect us as much as she should, and that's painful/ annoying.

[@sheroo1000]

Why are you lying? Sia never compared disabled people to wigs. That was the interviewer

[@IndieAndy]

Where is the proof of that? It's not something I've come across. It's important to us all to ensure that we know the facts of what's been said and done.

[@sheroo1000]

@@IndieAndy Thank you for that 💛 I completely agree

[@IndieAndy]

Yeah I agree that the ordeal is just out right negative and to be honest based on the article in the video. It's hard for me to believe what Sia's intent is. But can I please ask about the wig comparison where you got that from because I've not seen anything on it.

[@sheroo1000]

@@IndieAndy It’s from this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXq5oaOqZb6Dn9E The interviewer was referring to Sia’s wigs which Sia has always referred to as putting on anything to turn it into Sia the pop star. Women, men, dogs and even inanimate objects become Sia the pop star once they put on the Sia wig. In the film, the character puts on Sia’s wigs and it’s an emotional and deep scene in the film. This is the context behind what Shirley and Sia were discussing. But OP distorted what was being said and said Sia referred to disabled people as wigs, which she didn’t.

[@garyfrancis5015]

I'm both a Sia fan and a Indy Andy fan.

[@IndieAndy]

And I appreciate your support so thank you! 👍

[@riolureviews5204]

The movie may actually be good, but she keeps digging herself a hole deeper and deeper trying to defend it.

[@kittyrosefaerie7464]

Omg hi! I see you everywhere, what a coincidence :D

[@riolureviews5204]

@@kittyrosefaerie7464 oh yeah? I think I've seen you around too. I just don't know where. Anywho, Hello.

[@IndieAndy]

Yeah it could be but because of the whole drama, it's making me feel negative honestly. But when I get to see the film, I'll review it for the channel and then say what happens.

[@riolureviews5204]

@a little bit of everything well, people like representation. Unless you can tell me more than one role where the character AND the person playing the character are Autistic. Also, there is a comment Sia made that Andy talked about in the video. She basically said "The people who are like (the character) Music are the ones who don't know how to use a tablet or use the internet" which is blatantly false. There are Autistic People who are non-verbal and know how to communicate via the internet.

[@joriskemper5392]

Actually the movie isn't good at all, even of you remove everything related with the backlash or autism. Just from the standpoint of movie and arts, it makes basic 101 errors every movie director avoids.

[@garyfrancis5015]

That's makes you better than Dan this video all about views and self promotiom. I first heard about the film on your channel so thanks.

[@IndieAndy]

Not sure if what I'm reading is good or bad to be honest but I'll take it! Thanks Gary.

[@DianaWanMa]

I think that: - Everyone can act as an autistic person, after all is what acting means. - Maddie has been her star for ages, I understand why she decided to go with her. - Sia didn't have bad intentions by making this film and I think she isn't one of those who are thinking about money and fame only. - Autistic community in general has been very mean to her when there was no need to get to that point... I understand, at the same time, that some of us lack the ability to say things with empathy or have more tolerance... We should have only made suggestions, not asking for a cancellation. - Sia should have made more research. - Sia is not known as a movie director, I'm not expecting this to be a masterpiece, so it should be treated as it.

[@madisonbrooks5793]

Listen to marginalized people when they tell you something. Aallistic people cannot act as autistic people, our nonverbal language is too different

[@IndieAndy]

1) Like I say in the video, neurotypical people I think can play autistic characters. But the point is that when it's a bad representation or the fact that the source material is poor. Then it reflects in the film and on autistic people. There have been many times where autistics open up about their autism and have been compared to the likes of Rain man for example. Which is a bad stereotype. So honestly if film companies etc cast autistic people in these roles where possible, at least for me I'm being represented by someone who understands. Which is the main point. 2) Maddie has worked with Sia for years so yeah it makes sense and I don't have an issue with that. 3) I did said in the video that that intentions are not bad BUT the way she handled it was poor. Surely you can see that? 4) I think the outrage from the community when Sia tweeted out was justified however I don't condone personal attacks on her or anything like that. I believe that it's fine to bring up criticisms like we were in the beginning. But the empathy argument is not really an argument in this case. It's to do with representation and people were really upset with it hence why people were angry with her. 5) Considering that we don't know what research she did or where she got her info from. That is majority concerning. 6) I agree, I don't expect this to be the best movie ever and frankly if people say it is then that's ultimately their opinion. As movies and what people like is open to the court of public opinion.

[@DianaWanMa]

@@IndieAndy just in case, my mood in this reply isn't like in anger, hope it didn't look like that! And also I agree with what you said and I cringed a bit with her latest comments too 😣 Yeah, I see the topic is poorly treated and based in stereotypes, but I think that, in the end, what she wanted was to help autistic people, to be included and understood. That said, she didn't deserve to be attacked.

[@nathanbeach7301]

I really don't think people should be judging this in any way until we see the film. This is just ridiculous.

[@IndieAndy]

Yeah I get that for sure which is why I'm wanting to review it for the channel.

[@EclecticallyEccentric]

A valid point. However, we most definitely can judge Sia over her handling of the entire controversy.

[@IndieAndy]

Yeah I can agree with that like the controversy and the film are issues but they need to be handled in the right way. For me I really don't want to speak about the content itself until I've seen it as it's unfair.