How to Kill a King

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Sideways

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@i.j.dragonfly3123
@i.j.dragonfly3123 5 жыл бұрын
"Or if you play Horde, it's a Tuesday." Ouch. #darkspearnevahdie
@TheDancerMacabre
@TheDancerMacabre 4 жыл бұрын
Horde is just Red Alliance Vengeance for Zul'jin!
@LydsTherinNotamon
@LydsTherinNotamon 4 жыл бұрын
We all felt that
@jaymorrison2419
@jaymorrison2419 4 жыл бұрын
Yep... we seem to get new leaders like ever other expansion.
@Shenorai
@Shenorai 3 жыл бұрын
Hold up. Was that a Street Fighter Movie reference?
@smudgedskies9525
@smudgedskies9525 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even horde and I was pissed when Vol'jin died
@naxoxz
@naxoxz 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about this franchise but this was truly interesting, thanks for the video!
@BigCheeseBread
@BigCheeseBread Жыл бұрын
this video is not very accurate
@Gabahulk
@Gabahulk 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna pretend that I know anything about music. or that I'm an expert in WoW, but the correlation I see with this cinematic's theme and with Anduin's theme is a father who, at the end, has learned his son's vision of the world and finally understood and accepted what his child was constantly trying to prove. I think the themes represents a new mentality for the Alliance, Anduin's vision, that at the end, was Varian's as well (Although Varian's has a more "Warrior" feeling to it). That would mean that this expansion is mainly for the Alliance, but it will eventually mean a lot for Azeroth. But hey what do I know.
@AskForDoodles
@AskForDoodles 3 жыл бұрын
Right, I thought it was supposed to suggest that Varian's last thoughts were of his son.
@starcubey
@starcubey 7 жыл бұрын
7:30 Turn auto-generated captions on. "[Applause]" Gosh. No remorse.
@splitframe
@splitframe 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I go with Blizzard on that one. O Thanagor, while thematically being a good fit, might have been too confusing for people who don't read the books. The way it is now also plays into Anduin growing into the role of a king and his relationship with his father.
@Zirkalaritz
@Zirkalaritz 7 жыл бұрын
1:55 That's the most accurate Alliance shade I've ever heard. I'm a blue bitch and I'm not even mad, shit was hilarious.
@Caliemha
@Caliemha 7 жыл бұрын
Anduins theme could also represent his ideals about peace, and Varians quote about "to preserve peace you must be willing to fight" extends the theme and makes it more bombastic in the cinematic (compared to Anduins flute and soft violins), ya know, that 'being willing to fight' and sacrificing is making Anduins ideals obtainable.
@nywe
@nywe 7 жыл бұрын
3:15 I think the 'king of castamere' theme was very intentional in GoT. The audience is meant to notice the 'spoiler'. It signifies the transition from suspiciously happy wedding to horrible massacer. It might even have been the signal for the hosts that the murder is about to begin. As the theme plays the wolfs notice their mistake, and moments later the killing begins.
@haleffect9011
@haleffect9011 7 жыл бұрын
Would upvote twice. That was the moment of realization. and it was even played explicitly for that purpose
@funstuff81girl
@funstuff81girl 7 жыл бұрын
The *reins* of castamere was played in the book at that point. Very intentional.
@pauciloquentflibbertigibbe5217
@pauciloquentflibbertigibbe5217 7 жыл бұрын
The band playing the song was the actual signal in the book for the massacre to start. As in, when the band plays that song, all of the plotters knew that it was time to start cutting.
@dirtypure2023
@dirtypure2023 7 жыл бұрын
funstuff81girl The *_Rains_* of Castamere lol
@deediddydoo
@deediddydoo 7 жыл бұрын
It's also the point at which Catelyn realises that something's up so the choice to place the band in her point of view with such an emphasis is a very intentional and appropriate one. To understand what's happening from the music alone is pretty sick though
@MrBlancify
@MrBlancify 7 жыл бұрын
The death of Varian doesn't feel like it is about Varian because it's not about Varian. Varian's story has reached it's climax and was already done. With him trusting the Horde so much as to let him life depend on their support he has reached the end of his character development. His part to play in the story is now not as himself but as Anduin's father in what will come to be the archetypical "Rescuing the father from the belly of the beast" story for Anduin.
@balltoball1
@balltoball1 Жыл бұрын
As well, his death was for his people. His act wasn’t about him, so centering the theme around him could be confusing as well. Like a soldier giving his life for his country to the national anthem, his music both references his son the new king, and the musical themes of the alliance. Literally the last thing to come out of varians mouth before he is murdered
@alphalagger7902
@alphalagger7902 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even know about WoW yet I still enjoy the video. Nice work!
@thequeerestdeer2177
@thequeerestdeer2177 6 жыл бұрын
I know literally nothing about WoW, video games in general, or just /music/, and you just gave me chills dude, powerful stuff
@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat
@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! I've been waiting for a new video from you! This has become one of my new favourite channels. Great work!
@Khadharphak
@Khadharphak 4 жыл бұрын
I see O Thanagor and Anduin's theme more representative of their respective families, rather than O Thanagor being for a king, or Anduin's theme being a representative of Legion as a whole. O Thanagor is an almost ironic song inherently connected to the Menethil family, while Anduin's theme is applied to the Wrynns family. Thus it plays in the cinematic where he is fighting the demons and during Varian's sacrifice as they are moments of a member of the Wrynn family epitomising their legacy as kings, and the theme is in turn, like his title, passed down to Anduin through succession.
@Perbear213
@Perbear213 7 жыл бұрын
I think that the inclusion of O Thanagor in that scene would perhaps lead to assumption that not only does Varian die, but he returns as a corrupted form of himself, or that he may have even been corrupted by Arthas himself. Many people hold that song to symbolize the downfall of Arthas, and for such a song to play would indicate that Varian would come back, corrupted by the forces that took him. If it did happen, that would be a music spoiler. If it didn't, it might leave people confused, and even annoyed that they were "misled". Edit: Part of the majesty of the song seems to lie in the innocence of its sound, and the rather dark connotations that follow. It symbolizes an embrace of a dark entity, which Varian outright denies, in the form of him not dropping to his knees and pleading for mercy.
@sopranophantomista
@sopranophantomista 7 жыл бұрын
Hey yo, I'd totally be up for a corrupted King Chin to come back as part of the last legs of Legion, just sayin'.
@wedgemccloud
@wedgemccloud 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think a really simple thing has been overlooked here. Legion is an expansion made for a lot of different types of players, from once returning after Warlords of Draenor spurned them, player returning from longer times away than that, as well as attracting new players (especially from the promotion with the movie). And a sad reality is that a lot of players will only see the beginning of this expansion. For ones who are just getting into the story as well as ones who may not see the whole expansion, this moment is made to be as dramatic and engaging and satisfying as possible even if you don't know all of what lead up to it or where it ends up going. This is why both factions still see Varian's death: It ties back to the cinematic and creates a complete story arc for the opening alone, able to stand on its own regardless of WoW's expansive lore. But on top of that, it's not really a spoiler. It's supposed to point forward to Anduin. It doesn't tell you any spoilers about what will happen as it is Anduin's theme, not Varian's. That's why it is new music. The first bit of it we hear is seeing Anduin's face in the compass (signifying his place as what gives Varian direction), and the next time we hear it is seeing Sylvanas (signifying how he has helped Varian work with the Horde, which the narration also echoes). Hearing this music when Varian lets go is entirely deliberate. It's not a spoiler of the story, it's the entire point of it. Even if he's not there on the Shore, this music is about Anduin. This theme and this moment is about the passing of the torch from father to son, and the lessons learned between them both. Whether you're new to WoW, a diehard, or just trying the expansion out, this one moment is something meant to stick to you and say something very specific and clear.
@ahhauhhu
@ahhauhhu 7 жыл бұрын
I think he also pointed out the connection to Anduin in the video, which I agree with very much. Given this, why is there a necessity to find a way to musically kill a king?
@sopranophantomista
@sopranophantomista 7 жыл бұрын
I cannot like this video enough! I was introduced to WoW during Wrath, and what struck me from the cinematic wasn't the visuals, or the crazy lore I was stumbling into, but the music. It has always been about the music with me with this game, and I'm so happy that you've done a piece on this.
@sopranophantomista
@sopranophantomista 7 жыл бұрын
Replying to my own comment 'cause I can. Rewatching this, I can't help but think, maybe the reason why they didn't choose O Thanagor was because it's so entrenched in one specific chunk of lore. If you didn't do an analysis on the lyrics, people might think that King Chin was the successor to Arthas, and we all know that Bolvar's holdin' it down in ICC...maybe...that's iffy, at best right now. Point is, they may have decided against it because of just that, as well. And besides, I like the family ties theme that runs through the Alliance campaign of this expac.
@AshSong
@AshSong 7 жыл бұрын
This video deserves more views. This channel deserves more subscribers.
@liamogrady175
@liamogrady175 7 жыл бұрын
YAY! You're back! I found your channel recently and I love you! It's a blend of my two passions, video games and music.
@liamogrady175
@liamogrady175 7 жыл бұрын
Mainly music though :)
@havardf9411
@havardf9411 7 жыл бұрын
Liam O'grady make sure to watch 8-Bit Music Theory too! 👍
@perezsounds
@perezsounds 7 жыл бұрын
I always love your music replacements
@ThePopeOfAllDope
@ThePopeOfAllDope 7 жыл бұрын
First video of you to pop up in my feed since a subbed a while back. Love it. My dad is a director and has directed world class orchestras like the Dutch KCO. So it's indicative that I pretty much grew up in music. But I gotta bow down to your musical skill and analysis. Got yourself another fan, keep it up bro. (Might have used indicative wrong, wanted to use it really badly)
@paullooney3650
@paullooney3650 7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore these videos, I've started writing soundtrack style music and you've made me see it in a whole new light, so happy when I saw this in my feed.
@mr_gl00m32
@mr_gl00m32 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I got chills when you added that theme. I haven't felt that emotional over something like this in a long ass time.
@Portergauge
@Portergauge 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I had watched this sooner, I love this video. This may be counterintuitive because we now have the Anduin cinematic from the Broken Shore, but having Anduin's theme there was very intentional. Anduin's theme plays in the same physical locations as it does during Varian's death. The reason it plays as he lets go of the letter is likely because despite it being his death, it really doesn't end up being about Varian. It's about his impact, and the person it will have the most impact on is Anduin. Anduin's theme plays right as Varian lets go of his last words to his son. Not sure if you watched it, but there's a Madefire version of Anduin's Son of the Wolf comic, and his theme is playing constantly through it, especially in parts where the narrative is showing Varian's letter. The reason it played in the opening cinematic is because of this. The narrator of both the comic and the cinematic is Varian's letter to Anduin, his theme plays over the letter. The opening cinematic is basically just a visual telling of his letter, and I love how Terran Gregory, Russel Brower, and the lore team at Blizzard pieced it all together.
@CemErtekin
@CemErtekin 6 жыл бұрын
Here's my very late take on this. An Karanir Thanagor (or Invincible) is Arthas's theme and has always been that. It has never been associated with the Kingdom of Stormwind, so I don't think it makes sense to use it for Varian's sacrifice. (Notwithstanding how cool it sounded in your edit.) On the other hand, Anduin's Theme makes sense from a lore perspective. Everything Anduin has done in his life so far has been to bring peace to Azeroth, to end warcraft. When this theme is first introduced, what was Varian doing? Thinking about his son. Then when Sylvanas comes in, the theme plays again, because it symbolizes the unity between the factions. (Again, very Anduin). It then plays when Varian screams "For Azeroth." I guess you get what I mean. And as you yourself kinda imply in your latest video about Battle for Azeroth, Anduin's Theme is about unity and peace. It belongs to his family, in that regard. So yeah that's my counterpoint to yours.
@jacobbaker5442
@jacobbaker5442 2 жыл бұрын
That's not invincible. The song is called "Arthas, My Son." However the real invincible does have that lyric in it
@matteatane
@matteatane 7 жыл бұрын
thank god youre back ive been watching the song that changed my life over 5 times already
@woriiedt.v.1273
@woriiedt.v.1273 7 жыл бұрын
yeses I've been waiting
@haytham7191
@haytham7191 7 жыл бұрын
me too !
@carloseduardocurielcarbaja6671
@carloseduardocurielcarbaja6671 7 жыл бұрын
i still need more, more!!!!
@jaydenmueller4303
@jaydenmueller4303 7 жыл бұрын
you should do a video about Prince zukos fight against his sister in the last episode of avatar The last Airbender, I think that the way they address the conflict is excellent and I'm curious what your thoughts are
@wirrig99
@wirrig99 7 жыл бұрын
forgot how much i love this game, the music never fails to impress me
@purka5247
@purka5247 7 жыл бұрын
I get goose bumps ever time i listen to wow music. I love this channel so much.
@allnaturalfigjam310
@allnaturalfigjam310 3 жыл бұрын
Me: I have no interest in World of Warcraft and don't know any of these names or characters Also me: ooh, a Sideways video I haven't seen!
@patrickdaitya7084
@patrickdaitya7084 7 жыл бұрын
I'm unfortunate to be born at a time and a country where by the time i got into gaming WoW wasn't so hot, but it's still a really cool video! Keep making videos, i've been here since your Pixar video, you're building a great channel :D
@sulphuric_glue4468
@sulphuric_glue4468 7 жыл бұрын
The playing of the Rains of Castamere in Game of Thrones happened in the books, it was the chosen signal for the massacre to start
@GasMaskGamer
@GasMaskGamer 7 жыл бұрын
holy shit that O King theme gave me legit goose bumps ALL OVER. shit was a massive flash back
@Loungemermaid
@Loungemermaid 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even play wow and this had me in tears and shivers. God you're amazing at what you do
@TheBoomamatic
@TheBoomamatic 7 жыл бұрын
This video alone is responsible for my interest in the WoW universe, my entire relationship with Warcraft was born through its music
@phoenixascending6501
@phoenixascending6501 4 жыл бұрын
I play alliance and horde. I love the Warcraft soundtracks. The song that they play when Varian jumps off the ship is called "What a King must do". I guess the writers wanted to make Varian more heroic because he is sacrificing his life to protect his people(giving them a chance to escape). The song "Anduin's theme", is played when Anduin goes to the Broken Shore where Varian died after the battle to collect Shallamayn(the sword). To me, "Anduin's Theme" displays Anduin's grief that his father is gone, but then there is also hope that Anduin can carry on Varian's legacy and that his father's spirit will always be with him.
@TS-pm2rb
@TS-pm2rb 7 жыл бұрын
I've really grown to like your videos, but I just think you're not as on point with regards to stuff here. "O Thanagor" is pretty consistently Arthas' theme. It's had various permutations, and they all revolve around him. While, if you dig deep enough into lore, you'll find that Varian and Arthas used to be friends as kids, it just does not get anywhere near the level of narrative emphasis to place Arthas' theme right there. And I'm sure the guys at Blizz, if they felt it would work, they would. I mean Legion reprised a single David Arkenstone pub melody from 10 years ago into a full orchestral motif. "Temple of the Moon," to the new "Moon Rising." The expansion is full of references to old thematic material. Neal Acree wrote Anduin's theme though, and if you look at his work, he's done the same thing here as he did in Warlords of Draenor, where he establishes an idea for a character, but then utilized it in a more general melody for cinematics. Khadgar's theme from WoD, which I believe had a ton of grandiose statements from as far back as the announcement trailer to the expanion, is something to look into. I do think it's better connected here, though. You can clearly get the idea of the father-son relationship between Anduin and Varian, and it's not really used in any super out of context manner. The same cinematic where Varian died, also featured a nice rendition of the Stormwind theme, so I'm not seeing any bases that were particularly left uncovered. Still, keep it up! Your videos are always interesting.
@Geefchips
@Geefchips 7 жыл бұрын
quickly becoming one of my favorite channels
@hikipikisiki
@hikipikisiki 7 жыл бұрын
God damn chills going down my spine at 7:12. You know what you're talking about. Good informative channel. Go big mate.
@98JSB
@98JSB 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, that gave me chills. Great work.
@Azaghal1988
@Azaghal1988 4 жыл бұрын
THW first few notes if O Thanagor give me full body gosebumps. This will never geht old.
@jojorabaut
@jojorabaut 7 жыл бұрын
A new version of "O Thanagor" that would fit the scene and show contrast from the more mournful version for The Lich King would be amazing! Also when we throw Sylvanas Windrunner off of the position of Warchief for being a sneaky and traitorous and stuff, when she goes evil and stuff we should have a mix of The Lich Kings "O Thanagor" and "The Lament of The Highborn" would be pretty sweet, also that would be very Ironic and symbolic.
@JosBeats
@JosBeats 7 жыл бұрын
Yo I've only watched 5 minutes of this vid but I just wanna say, this is perfect. I have played WoW, I play hearthstone, and I love this channel. And I make music. Damn. Love your stuff man keep it up
@christinethomas4252
@christinethomas4252 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god. Coming back to the video now that Shadowlands is out- THERE ARE PARTS OF THE LICH KING'S THEME IN ANDUIN'S THEME. SPOILERS. MUSICAL SPOILERS EVERYWHERE. SIDEWAYS BIG BRAIN 5HEAD. You managed to point out the musical spoilers for Shadowlands during a discussion about the musical spoilers of Legion. AGDGSTAFAFADFSHDHAGAFSFAFAF Wine. This video aged like fine wine. Omg.
@martinlouazel9951
@martinlouazel9951 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Sideways, great videos as always :) i love'em, but i think on this one you might not go to the right direction. I think this musical theme is simply to be taken litterally as the "anduin's theme", and there's no problem about it since the whole cinematic intro is about varian writing to his son on how to be a good king and how he loves him and blablabla. And play again when varyan fell into the water and recall his son is his reason to fight so that gives him the strength to fight. And finally when he is willing to sacrifice himself (and moreover passing the legacy to his son) you again have this musical theme, to represent the bond between the father and son, and the upcoming role of anduin in the coming events, since by now he is the king. But anyway have a good day !
@TheSkulldan
@TheSkulldan 5 жыл бұрын
Never laughed this hard in my life. Best evaluation of Legion to date
@sarahmckay5285
@sarahmckay5285 7 жыл бұрын
you had me at "flying alongside the good guys" FTH.
@1234betha
@1234betha 7 жыл бұрын
I had no clue what you were talking about the whole time but I was fascinated
@breadmoneymusic
@breadmoneymusic 7 жыл бұрын
You're back!!! I missed you!
@omgnobrain
@omgnobrain 6 жыл бұрын
Great, now I'm crying over Varian's death for the billionth time, and now with an extra dimension!
@rizerphe
@rizerphe 3 жыл бұрын
Why did this give me chills? Like a lot?
@shantijohnson9245
@shantijohnson9245 7 жыл бұрын
Yay you made a new video! You're my favorite KZbinr :D
@mateuszdowgiert2198
@mateuszdowgiert2198 7 жыл бұрын
I love your content man, thank you for what you're doing :)
@JulianaBlewett
@JulianaBlewett 4 жыл бұрын
"I play horde. I know what the sun looks like, have a girlfriend and am amazing at PVP." So true
@jenniferchough
@jenniferchough 4 жыл бұрын
"have a girlfriend" (image not found) LOL
@ErlendFlatin
@ErlendFlatin 7 жыл бұрын
I think they meant it to just be a "Wrynn Theme", we get fragments of it while Varian is in his cabin. To me that makes the most sense as to why it is played in the cinematic/when Varian sacrifices himself, and then becomes Anduin's Theme. But they did a mistake in playing it while Sylvanas and Varian give their "sup" to each other, so I get why it gives the impression of it being a leitmotif for the Legion expansion
@LunaNicoleTheFox
@LunaNicoleTheFox 4 жыл бұрын
I know this video is almost 4 years old now but, Varian dieing with that theme and Anduin having a very similar one makes sense, not just are they father and son, but they learned from and shaped each other, so they are tied together musically and emotionally, so it would also make sense if Anduin, not just being Varians Son but also now being High King of the Alliance(the actual good Guys), now also has a close emotional bond to the broken shore. And with BfA Anduins theme has become very synonimous with the Alliance itself, more so than just the older theme of Stormwind. The Horde being given similar treatment with, what I shall call, Saurfangs Honor theme, both themes are very much about Heroism, though in different ways, Anduins theme, feeling more about doing the right thing because it is right and Saurfangs feeling more like a call to action to defend the honour of your people, your family and such. Also the Song which you proposed for Varians death, "Arthas - My Son"/"Oh King", is basically synonimous with the Lich King, probably the remains of his humanity and in the end his death, and in a wider sense, corruption and mislead hunger for power, as Arthas didn't become the Lich King for wanting to but by accident in pursuit to gain power to save Lordearon, which makes its usage in the Wrath cinematic doubly important, because Terenas was right, Arthas would have become a great and wise King for he cared for his people and his country so much that he literally went to the ends of the earth in pursuit of Mal'Ganis to destroy the Scourge, which...well we know how that ended. Also more and more character/concepts are receiving similar treatment with the Emerald Dream and Ysera having basically the same theme, the titans and their structures having a theme that can be at least related to Wraths Ulduar Raid(My Second Favourite ever after ICC) and more such relationships that I currently probably just can't think of. Also Boralus Habour has better music than Stormwind.
@lukasmisanthrop8557
@lukasmisanthrop8557 7 жыл бұрын
the music of this game that ive been playing since it came out brings tears to my eye, a feeling of nostalgia i do enjoy so much
@lukasmisanthrop8557
@lukasmisanthrop8557 7 жыл бұрын
who am i lying to, im crying.
@TheGordonFryman
@TheGordonFryman 7 жыл бұрын
Tale of the Misanthrop I always get teary-eyed when I hear Arthas, My Son (the LK's song). It is so dramatic and sad, while alsl taking me back to my childhood. Impactful haha
@jelle6370
@jelle6370 7 жыл бұрын
everytime you upload a video i get happy. thanks
@GabrielDalposso
@GabrielDalposso 7 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, A SIDEWAYS VIDEO!!!
@Halefall
@Halefall 7 жыл бұрын
oh, I was eagerly awaiting a new video from Sideways
@thenarrator6846
@thenarrator6846 5 жыл бұрын
Me (who's never played WoW before): nice
@cadenprimmer2935
@cadenprimmer2935 7 жыл бұрын
It's great to see you back.
@Aldrius
@Aldrius 3 жыл бұрын
(Sorry for commenting on such an old video) I think the problem here is that the theme is really the Scourge's Theme, Arthas's Theme. I think if they had a theme they wanted to use, the Stormwind theme but in adagio or in a darker key.
@CaptainOvious123
@CaptainOvious123 7 жыл бұрын
They have used Anduin's theme elsewhere - the cinematic with him and Greymane comes to mind.
@gonzaloleon5173
@gonzaloleon5173 7 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, you're alive!
@IcestormTundra
@IcestormTundra 3 жыл бұрын
Anduins theme plays when the Broken Shore scenario ends and you go home after the defeat. Its raining in Stormwind, and you go report to Anduin to tell him what happened. Its err, its rough.
@sian3674
@sian3674 3 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this a while later, and I figured that if they were planning Sylvanas' arc back in Legion then Anduin's Theme could represent peace which would tie in with the dialogue in the Legion cinematic, and then Varian dying sort of for the cause of peace in the broken shore cinematic. Sylvanas wouldn't have been able to use the peace motif because of her basically wanting to wage war on life itself.
@swancrunch
@swancrunch 7 жыл бұрын
so that's where you've been for three months XD. nice to have you back
@tomgxz
@tomgxz 3 жыл бұрын
gives me chills every time i watch
@eleanorsidikman3017
@eleanorsidikman3017 7 жыл бұрын
idikmanFirst off I just want to say how much I love your channel! I'm always super excited when you post something new. I don't mean to come off as being incolent or to pry, but I do feel like if your titles had more to do with the content of your videos or if they were more direct more people would probably watch them
@MiraArrr
@MiraArrr 2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing about the Rains of Castamere is that it’s a theme in canon. It was written about Tywin’s complete destruction of the Reynes (pronounced rains). It’s now played as a threat. So in the books, there were two different orchestras, one in each tower, playing different songs throughout the night and creating a horrific cacophony. That’s why Catelyn immediately realizes that they’ve been betrayed when both bands strike up Rains of Castamere. It’s a deliberate Lannister threat, specifically that they’re about to destroy someone’s house. Can’t remember how the show played it, but there’s no way they could have conveyed all of that nuance to an audience that didn’t know the books
@seculartemplar5407
@seculartemplar5407 2 жыл бұрын
"I play horde. I know what the sun looks like, have a girlfriend and am amazing at PVP." Excellent way to isolate your viewers.
@isaack8967
@isaack8967 7 жыл бұрын
You can actually hear some leitmotifs of the Stormwind theme after Varian says "For the Alliance!" and as he is getting disenchanted by Gul'dan. I don't know if the "Anduin" theme was used when he made the decision to sacrifice himself because in a way he did it to save Anduin (and also the Alliance) or if it was just because it sounded cool. Either way, I think the unaltered "Arthas My Son." Kind of takes some energy away from the scene and that if they did use O'Thanagor they would have to alter it in a way to be more high energy and major key.
@chuggajr
@chuggajr 3 жыл бұрын
Man it’s so funny to hear someone talk about the Horde being better today as opposed to start of Legion where they actually were equivalent to the Alliance.
@LichtdesMorgens
@LichtdesMorgens 5 жыл бұрын
I've just overcome his death, Sideways, you can't do this to me!
@hemangchauhan2864
@hemangchauhan2864 7 жыл бұрын
Not into Warcraft universe, but I really liked the video, or mainly the idea behind it
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video because I thought Varian in the thumbnail was Quinlan Vos from the Clone Wars
@Snoozleberrilichious
@Snoozleberrilichious 4 жыл бұрын
So I’m not a musical expert or anything but if you listen to the stormwind music after the initial AH AH AH part there’s a softer part that sounds like a parallel to the theme that plays when Varian drops from the air ship. This theme also plays in MOP when you sit in the log in screen for too long and in MOP there’s an entire quest line where Anduin runs away from Varian and learns about the panderan and how they live peacefully and he starts advocating this peaceful outlook to Varian who isn’t having it. And then it plays when Varian falls from the airship; knowing that he’s going to die and his son is going to become the new king and he finally understands what Anduin meant and accepts his peaceful outlook and so the song was put there because it reminds you of stormwind, the alliance, and Azeroth and SETS THE SCENE for battle for Azeroth which we thought was going to be Horde v Alliance but really turned into a fight for peace and a fight for Azeroth as A WHOLE instead of single factions and idk man but I think that’s really fuckin beautiful. Thanks for my coming to my ted talk.
@brainstormsurge154
@brainstormsurge154 7 жыл бұрын
If you want to talk about music signifying someone's death look no further than the music that plays when Optimus Prime dies in Transformers: The Movie. Just thinking about it tears me up. The whole musical score was awesome.
@PixLgams
@PixLgams 7 жыл бұрын
I don't play or know that much about WOW, but that edit at 7:00 legitemately gave me chills. Seriously: even without the narrative meaning of the Leitmotive the edit is better, simply because of the atmospheric contrast.
@YouBurp297
@YouBurp297 7 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the channel name, I swear, I've never clicked on a video faster.
@p2400
@p2400 7 жыл бұрын
tell me that i'm not dreaming , a new fkin video
@patrickbrennan4853
@patrickbrennan4853 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a song of sacrifice- Varian literally gives everything to show Anduin how to rule as a king. In the first use of the theme it's letting go of past hostility for the greater good; in the second scene it's letting go of personal goals in trade of setting an example to the troops (The underwater sequence was quite literally Varian looking at Anduin as his innocent defenceless son, and a parallel is drawn between Varian choosing to be a King to many and being a Father to one, ultimately showing Anduin that it was a sacrifice that was made on Varian's part, not negligence) and finally the most literal metaphor: Letting go of your life for the greater good of the kingdom, as to allow others to thrive. That's just how I see it though, as a letter to Anduin on how to rule both in the literal and metaphorical sense. And as the theme has been used within the context of Arthas, I'd bet Blizzard sees it as the King's Mantle, the song of a soon-to-be-leader. But can we talk about the real loss today? Vol'jin :( the horde misses u
@cave1907
@cave1907 5 жыл бұрын
I'm like 2 years late, but why do you see the leitmotif as a theme for Legion as a whole, and not just the theme for the Wrynn family? Yes, the leitmotif is used in the Legion cinematic, but only in moments where Varian is being badass. The theme is never used for any other characters but the Wrynns.
@richthisguy1215
@richthisguy1215 7 жыл бұрын
ahhh you need to make more videos I love your way of keeping thigns fun, but still educational
@Zumazuma.
@Zumazuma. 7 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely gold, thank you! Would it be possible to do an essay on Quentin Tarantino' sound track and how he use it?
@ansherai5397
@ansherai5397 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see if they carry this portion of anduin's theme tie in to lich king forward with what they seem to be planning for his character towards end of shadowlands
@Blabla130
@Blabla130 7 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, they seemed to have used the "O, Thanagor" music in the Knights of the Frozen Throne expansion for Hearthstone, of all things. This means the piece represents the Frozen Throne specifically? Undead in Warcraft? Or just general "Fall/corruption"?
@jayweise8240
@jayweise8240 7 жыл бұрын
YOURE ALIVE
@JoshuaAyala
@JoshuaAyala 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I love ur stuff!!
@WolfGeek64
@WolfGeek64 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing the lich King step while listening to o thanagor gave me chills holy shit
@doordonut5427
@doordonut5427 7 жыл бұрын
OMG He's back! My life was so empty without you XD
@MrGohtrunks
@MrGohtrunks 7 жыл бұрын
The Lich King theme is already tied to the Death Knights though. You hear it in the class hall. It's sounds great with Varian, but perhaps a bit confusing if players already associate it with the Death Knights.
@HibiscuseLivros
@HibiscuseLivros 4 жыл бұрын
7:07 this gave me goosebumps... and I don't even care about the world of warcraft.
@mariette5384
@mariette5384 4 жыл бұрын
I think WoW has really amazing and memorable soundtracks and it is a shame no one talks about it. Never had I an urge to play my own music indstead of what game provides. Elven and Draenei scores are pure enchantment
@ApplePi3.
@ApplePi3. Жыл бұрын
Holly shit dude, I'm tearing up here!
@alantrevino7854
@alantrevino7854 6 жыл бұрын
when he played the theme over the death scene, i got goosebumps
@MrGoalieguy60
@MrGoalieguy60 7 жыл бұрын
so glad you posted. so sad I have no idea what you're talking about.
@Vovich24
@Vovich24 7 жыл бұрын
God damn, i actually cried at 7:10
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 4 жыл бұрын
Flying along the good guys fucking love it
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