Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DG DN Art VS Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS - Which one should you buy?

[@StefanMalloch]

What is your go to standard zoom?

[@dmisha5437]

24-70 gm, just love it, canceled my preorder for sigma and got it instead, so happy about this

[@hypnotiksync-insideoutsucc709]

Tamron 28-75

[@daviss648]

I’ve got the standard kit lens so seeing this and your other reviews are helping me make my choice for an upgrade. Thank you so much for your work

[@StefanMalloch]

Good call

[@StefanMalloch]

Happy to help!

[@tuan056585]

I will pick the 24-105, it has an OSS. Then later get the Sony 35 F1.8 if I have chance.

[@joshwozny]

Ooh. This is a good one. I just finally settled on the 24-105, and I couldn't be happier. I like the native glass experience, the extra reach, and stabilization. I have fast primes if I need 1.8 or lower, but I think this one will serve me well.

[@CedricRachmad]

aaargh...still on the fence. How do you like the bokeh on the 24-105? I also have 24 and 55 primes, but looking for a run and gun (travel) lens when I don't want to switch lenses. The sigma 2.8 seems great for bokeh and extra light, but I do mostly video, so the OSS and less weight on the sony would help a little, as well more reach.

[@joshwozny]

Cedric Rachmad I actually prefer the bokeh on the Sony. It’s a bit creamier and less chaotic than on the Tamron, IMO. The extra reach was important to me, but I haven’t had a chance to really put it to the test, yet. I’ll be traveling with it coming up in the next few months and I’ll really get a feel for it. I grabbed this lens for $950 US, which puts it right in line with the Tamron pricing - and when pricing is the same, native glass definitely wins.

[@CedricRachmad]

@@joshwozny I can imagine the bokeh is better also because of the extra mm's. I think you just might steer me towards the Sony :)

[@PavSZ]

great comparison! I have been using the Sigma for two weeks now ... after using 24-105 for just over a year. Sigma is slowly winning for me too. You didn't mention the focusing distance - I can literally almost touch the subject at 24mm and it will still focus!

[@daylight5085]

Pav SZ, with that last comment, which lens at 24mm? Thanks!

[@PavSZ]

@@daylight5085 sorry - Sigma 24-70 f2.8

[@mskga22]

Pav SZ does it matter if you’re using auto or manual focus

[@denislevochkin9494]

Hi!What can you say about dust in Sigma lens? Do you have it? Many owners complain about it.Thx!

[@Vultite]

24-105 for me, for hiking and travel I only need this and one longer lens...my fast primes are there for special situations when I'm not traveling.

[@JoeTourist]

I leave the Sony FE 24-105mm F4 on my a7 III 80% of the time, and switch to the Sony FE 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 when I need the extra reach. Since I travel a lot, I want lighter, more flexible lenses, and seldom need fast optics. I use a Sigma Art 14mm F1.8 for wide field astrophotography, so I'm not afraid of primes, but I only use them for certain tasks and shooting situations. In particular, the 24-105 combined with the a7 III gives me amazing IS!

[@athenstravelguide]

If you activate both stabilization, lens and body, is it ok for handheld video? I have heard that they do not work well if you have both activated

[@stevedee2043]

Happy with my 24-105 for a walk around lens, really sharp, just carry a prime or two If I think I might need it. Great honest review. Thanks.

[@xoehan]

I ended up getting the sony 24-105 over the sigma . It's just more versatile and lightweight and excellent for traveling. The quality on decent light is identical and newer sony cameras have excellent iso performance anyway but yes 2.8 will be much better if you shoot indoors but why would you use this lens indoors? I would rather use prime lenses for low light indoor photos.

[@bartjes2509]

I just recently got a A7R IV which has a 61 megapixel sensor. When I would zoom to 70mm and shoot in APS-C crop, I basically have 105 mm with still 26 megapixels to work with, so that is also a consideration. On the otherhand I'm used to 24-105mm reach...

[@rogerbeltz2370]

Good review but here's "my" complaint: Which lens (or neither or indiscernible) produces the clearest, cleanest and sharpest image (at all f-stops and focal ranges). Seems like very few or "no" views address this (THE MOST IMPORTANT) aspect. I want the absolute sharpest image that I can afford to buy! (Also in your video I believe you comparing the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 Mark I rather the the Sigma Mk II.) Regardless thank you for your evaluation.

[@BlueShade88]

Thanks! I was waiting this review to decide what lenses to buy on that range, I think that I would choose the Tamron 28-75. Since the announcement of the Sigma I hold my decision until see it on reviews. It's great lens but for me it doesn't worth the extra money, and the portability is a also factor. This Sony is seems to be a great lens but I'm planning to get a 70-200 or maybe the next tamron 70-180, so I prefer the 2.8 instead the extra reach because I'll have it in the near future.

[@Rizzo2009]

I bought the sigma 24-70 and the chromatic aberration on my A7 II was unacceptable. I returned it and am waiting on my Sony 24-105. Great content and great channel!

[@armando.visuals]

Watching this again after other many reviews about sigma and around 80% of them or at least the most professional ones complain about the sigma chromatic ab. and bokeh being distorted many times. its what worries me so i think the Sony will be good for me since ill be using it for A7SIII which is already great at low light. This video was very helpful thank you

[@efferoconsultingabprojects3500]

I hope the Sigma issue work out for you in the end. Quality control are an issue across all lens brands. Hooking up a good relationship with your nearest camera store and try before buying is a good idea. My camera store only got one copy from Sigma, they still let me take it for a spin before I decided to buy.

[@fdemarqui]

How does the performance/steadiness of the Sigma + IBIS (in the A7iii for example) compare to the Sony OOS?

[@reddawn87]

I took a while to decide and ended up going with the Sigma but man your video comparison is great. Hopefully it'll help the others who are on the fence. I have to agree on the weight issue, on my A7iii, the 'front-heaviness' of the Sigma does get a little fatiguing on the wrist after a while. I highly recommend getting a grip extension; it made handling the setup significantly more comfortable.

[@StefanMalloch]

Thanks bud. Glad it's working out for you!

[@davemorrison3705]

The thumbnail hurts my brain

[@edelineteintang7729]

shall i get the 24-105 to perform wedding shoot? what do you think?

[@dyor2086]

hmm, i think sigma would be more for pictures and sony lens might for videos I think.

[@theoldneworleansfoodandrec2992]

Stefan, great review. I think it was especially big of you to put aside your previous concerns with the Sigma. I'm still deciding but this has helped. Thanks again.

[@StefanMalloch]

Good luck!

[@SkipperGeffen]

You mentioned that the Sigma is better for manual focusing. How is that? Great channel by the way :)

[@DickVanPaiton]

Which one is open sharper @24mm or even both at f4? Thank you!

[@RicochetForce]

From pretty much all the tests I've seen one of the strengths of the 24-105 is that it's sharp at ALL focal lengths, instead of having the typical degradation you typically seen in Zoom lenses. The Sigma is sharp, but it's soft in the corners, soft at different points in the focal range, and the Chromatic Aberration issue is still there to this day.

[@jessicaarverne1181]

I have tried the 24-105 Sony. I was frightened by the weight but I find it well balanced on the A7iii. I like the range and I use the 105 mm a lot. The sharpness is much better than that of the equivalent Canon zooms of 10 years ago. The distortion is more complex than mere pin cushion and barrel distortion but it is easily corrected in post. The lens is not creeping at all you cannot extend the barrel by pulling the front of the lens. Kudos Sony. On my copy, the vignetting at 24mm is not as bad as I feared. And by the way, distortion correction cropping eliminates the worst par of extreme corner vignetting at 24mm. All in all, I'm happy with this lens and I would not replace it with 24 to 70 mm f2.8 zoom lens. In low light I use faster prime lenses.

[@CedricRachmad]

But how is the bokeh? I have the tamron now for sale, replacing it with either of these 2. My main purpose is for run and gun/travel video. I have primes for the rest.

[@jessicaarverne1181]

@@CedricRachmad For me, the bokeh is very good at 105mm f4. It's soft and creamy. If you want bokeh you will have to shoot on the longer end of the lens. The Tamron is of course lighter and less cumbersome. But I like having both 24 and 105mm focal lens. For travel photography, if you don't mind the extra weight, go with the Sony.

[@athenstravelguide]

Does the lens stabilization work well with the Sony a7iii stabilization ?

[@jessicaarverne1181]

@@athenstravelguide The A7iii and this lens work together very well for still. For video I think it's good but I am not a doing a lot of video so I am not well positioned to deliver a valid opinion.

[@athenstravelguide]

@@jessicaarverne1181 Thank you Jessica

[@Barryferg100]

I’m interested in learning how you test the lenses for the quality you speak of. What special items are required, what do you look for?

[@StefanMalloch]

Nothing really scientific. What it's made of, how it feels and holds up. It's just my experience so take it for what it's worth.. 😁

[@Xetenor]

Thanks for the video! I hope you get your sigma 24-70 issues resolved and post an update. They really should be replacing your lens. I can't wait to test one in the stores when they start becoming available in February to make sure it is not misaligned or having focus issues. I think many are also sorta stuck trying to decide between these 2 lenses. :-)

[@GBO76]

Well, Sigma may replace Stefan's lens, because 12000 peoples have seen its videos, so it might be a good communication move....but what about those who haven't got a youtube channel ? If I do receive a defective lens, I'm not quite sure they'll send me another one. Which is a problem, because we've seen that even the Sigma's support wasn't able to solve the issue. That lens has "technically" passed the quality control twice, but failed twice, at the factory and in the reparation center (even worse). Not a good sign at all.

[@StefanMalloch]

Nailed it. They wouldn't replace mine because they said there were none available. I hate the idea of consumers getting different treatment than anyone else which is why I buy almost everything I review myself. Having come right from the manufacturer, the review and results may have been different. I did give them a chance to fix the issue thought.

[@cyrax83]

Sent mine back to Sigma (I bought it a few weeks ago). Been told 2 week wait for them to review and assess.... 1 week left. If it comes back crap I'm going to return it.

[@StefanMalloch]

Sorry to hear bud, pretty disappointing. What was the issue?

[@cyrax83]

Stefan Malloch poor sharpness at corners (tested 70mm f/2.8) and even the left side of image wasn't very sharp imgur.com/a/n0FYZqd

[@tqlla]

Why didnt you just return it, and buy new stock when available?

[@cyrax83]

@@tqlla I got it for 15% off on sale so wanted a working lens rather than a replacement...

[@tqlla]

Nice price. Can you ask the store if they will honor an exchange for you, when they get it in stock? repairs are always 50/50

[@simonsalfred8354]

I found everything i searched in your channel. Dont stop doing videos. Top youtuber

[@DynamicLearning4u]

Would you recommend the Sigma for Run and Gun Video with Autofocus or would you recommend the Sigma? Would the inbody stabilization in A7III produces stable footage for video? Thanks in advance!

[@Tom-rp7qs]

5:06 Sigma colors seam better than 4:51 sony ones. Thanks for comparaison

[@wiiildchiildd8280]

What cámara are you using cus mine has in Camera image stabilization

[@ThomasS17]

For newer full-frame bodies, can I use the lens OSS together with the IBIS, or is it either-or?

[@StefanMalloch]

Its all on or off.

[@DavidStella]

The sigma’s a brand new lens, and it’s within the warranty period. So if performance is that bad, why not send it back for a replacement?

[@StefanMalloch]

If you check out my full review I did send it back and it came back even worse but they said it was in spec.. needless to say I returned it.

[@DavidStella]

Stefan Malloch I watched the full review, but the last part of the comment here really answers the question. Makes sense to return it, though. No reason to keep a bad copy of a lens you’re not fully happy with.

[@JohnWilmot1179]

This thing that you have to be lucky to have a “good copy” for not having problems with such pricey lens makes me mad.

[@StefanMalloch]

True story..

[@JohnWilmot1179]

Enrico Viappiani 🤪😅

[@sergiibogdanov5178]

Sony 24-105 must have!

The image stabilization of Sony 24-105mm f/4 OSS is not as good as other lenses, e.g. 24-70 f/4 Zeiss or Canon zoom lenses. I have better handheld video results on my A7RII IBIS body with my primes like Sony 85mm f/1.8 or Sigma 35mm f/1.4 (both have no stabilization) than with Sony 24-105. Just my experience - maybe bad copy?

[@RicochetForce]

Sounds like a bad copy. OSS is typically better than IBIS, and when turned on works together with the IBIS in the body.

[@MckayGeoff]

Comparing apples vs oranges in my opinion. Seems like both are good. Cheers.

[@d.i.movingpictures1273]

Indeed !!

[@kostasrestas]

Greetings from Greece my friend! I have a7iii with tamron 28 75 and im selling tamron these days for one of these two lenses.. I like 24 105 but im afraid it for night or inside videos or photos for f4. And im afraid also how sharp is, something in my mind tell me that 24 105 have more 'oldie' or 'classic' image than 24 70 that i thing that have more 'modern' picture quality.. I dont know man if you get me! But im really strugle bitween them and i dont have the luxury to tried them before i buy...

[@IsidorosAndronos]

Kosta i am thinking of buying the 24-105 or the sigma 24-70. I also have the a7 iii. I think i will go for the sony 24-105 because i want that extra mm reach and because i think although you loose 1 stop you have that extra stabilization on the lens. Also it is less heavier lens, has 77mm instead of 82mm so cheaper filters. As for sharpness i believe 24-105 is sharp enough for the a7 iii (according to reviews). Why you want to sell the tamron? What is your experience on the a7 iii? Finally i trust sony quality control more than sigma's (no problems so far with sony or sigma lenses) but just saying because you don't have the ability to check the lens before you buy

[@meat_loves_wasabi]

If sigma made the lens lighter would consider getting it ...,still holding on to my 24-105 with GM 24 & 16-35F4

[@StefanMalloch]

Nice little collection!

[@carlocarnevali7790]

My friend can sell me his 24-105 for €700, but there is still the Tamron 28-70 2.8 in that price. I'm so undecided. What should I go for? For now I'm more on the Sony, but I'm still not sure.

[@kennethrojas8504]

How can you tell if you got a bad copy of the signa 24-70.

[@StefanMalloch]

You could try some of the tests you see in my full review of it.

[@lovegames8530]

Another great review thanks

[@dogdoggo1792]

Thank you for the great vid, does the lack of OSS affect video handheld on A7 III?

[@StefanMalloch]

The a7iii's IBIS isint the greatest so the IS in the 24-105 should be better. The extra 35mm will make a big difference for camera shake hand held too.

[@dogdoggo1792]

@@StefanMalloch Thank you so much :D

[@ninoliberatore1491]

very nice review

[@StefanMalloch]

Thanks friend

[@NefNaf]

Thank you! This helps a lot!

[@shamima98b]

Can i get best performance from Sony24105/4 with a7riii????

[@timreaves3921]

I have that lens and that body. It is perfectly capable of resolving the a7riii's 42mp sensor, and it's sharp throughout its range. It's my daily shooter except in low light.

[@alma175w]

mainul ahsan It is rated as the only native Sony lens to resolve not only on the 42mp sensor, but on the a7riv with 62mp. See the Sonyalpha Blog for the comparison of which current lenses are capable of resolving well with that camera.

[@HamiltonSRink]

Sony 24-105 f4. All day, every day. Sony cameras image noise is very well controlled up to 5000 ISO in my opinion. Who needs a jittery, slightly faster zoom with less range and more weight? Not me!

[@r.powell2351]

That was my conclusion too. I shoot a lot of industrial which is supposed to look gritty--so anything up to 6400 iso is usable for me. In fact, if I could only choose one lens it would be Sony 24-105. And you know that iso and noise reduction technology is getting better each and every year so the Sony-24-105 will age well.

[@ChrisHaas1]

Nice Fraser River videos!! Thanks for your review!

[@DarkKnightGms]

already bought the sigma. too late but will still watch this video lol

[@Bernzini]

24-105 f4

[@RobertAnthonyH]

I guess you know more than Ken Rockwell and numerous others who think this Sony lense is the BEST made lense for its purpose by any manufacturer in the world. I am not talking just against the Sigma; I am talking about ALL lenses in this length range. Full stop, mic drop.

[@AiurMedia]

i got the sony 24-105

[@khyong9012]

Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DG DN Art vs Sony 24-70 mm F2.8 GM, not sony 24105 F4 vs sigma 2470 F2.8

[@antonychau8076]

Shoot in crop mode with the Sigma and you can get to 105mil😂

[@zhaiminwei250]

嘴炮评测，适马进灰不是手上看一看就能看出的，要用一段时间

[@happybear5415]

Sigma weight is poor!!

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

When it was the time to swarm reviews of Sony 24-105 G, it was like god sent, equal to G Masters until now. Now not.... ok. Now Sony 24-105 G is not even a pro level lens, that it was during its advertising period.

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

@Enrico Viappiani Yes I have it. It is awesome.

[@MiranDalić]

What a crap comparison. Sony is away better lens. I like the most your comment that Sigma have ""more professional range" ? Get a grip man.