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This week on Fully Ramblomatic, Yahtzee begrudgingly reviewed the Silent Hill 2 Remake.
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[@eb-the-gamer6287]

One thing I dislike about the remake is that the enemy variety took a hit. So many of the weirdos you fight are replaced by Lying Figures crawling around. As another example, the original had the Larval Stalker, which as a cute little shadow ghost baby that triggered your radio, but was harmless. In the remake the random bugs are what do that, and...isn't that just less interesting? And they did not remake SH1 because it has a film already, and SH2 has one on the way. It's for tie in reasons...

[@Crosshill]

im so sorry but with all those sponsors and patreons can you not afford someone to add subtitles to the videos again like i cant keep waiting for the house to be quiet before watching these

[@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709]

Shattered memories is already a remake of SH1 and the best SH1 in existence.

[@Sly2Cooper]

"Oh! Angela is not sexy, boohoo!" She was sexualy treated by her father FFS! How the ph@ck she suppose to look like? Are you an expert? Have you experienced that with your father or your daughter? In all other cases I'm against all this "inclusivity" and "objectivation" bs. But in SH2 Angela looks bad FOR A REASON, even in a remake.

[@Sly2Cooper]

@@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709 only boring and totally not scary.

[@peterclarke7240]

Yahtzee: "it's alright." Blooper Team: *bursts into tears of joy and relief*

[@magmos6346]

And then he basically tells them the best parts were the stuff they took from the OG game.

[@Meitti]

To be fair thats most of the Silent Hill fanbase as well. Its not so much of praising the remake of being a perfect game, everyone is just happy that it wasn't terrible.

[@toolatetothestory]

@@Meitti Our standards were roasting beneath Satan's feet, to be entirely fair.

[@nexarath]

@@magmos6346 Holy shit, man. What a concept! The best parts of REMAKING A CLASSIC AND BELOVED GAME come from SAID CLASSIC AND BELOVED GAME. What an absolutely wild concept! Dude, let me explain how much I love the OG game - I formed an entire band around playing covers from SH games and we had a big gig at a Japanese music festival one year. Yeah. And yes, Bloober was probably IN THEORY the worst studio I could ever imagine doing a remake. And yet here we are. And yet they did a fucking stellar job. AND YET there are STILL salty dudes like yourself and Yahtzee not willing to admit that yes, it IS a surprise to be sure but NOT an unwelcome one. God damn it, it's not a PERFECT game but they did FAR better than anyone expected, enough with the salt lol.

[@mariomario-dy1kc]

@zvr-08 Not always. A good remake enhances the good parts and corrects on the less good parts. It is not necessary when designing a remake to just make it blander but with a shiny enw coat of paint and hope the nostalgia is enough to carry it.

[@Dethmaster64]

Konami and Bloober Team not fumbling the Silent Hill 2 Remake is more shocking than any number of jump scares could be ever be

[@CADClicker]

Not fumbling yes, but to totally succeed was probably always too big of an ask.

[@idakev]

Not really. They just had a small team and needed more money. Observer was pretty good

[@Egurius3]

​@@transientanusNo, not really.

[@Sir_Bucket]

Blooper team has been finding their marks recently. I'm glad they're being successful

[@Null_Experis]

@@Egurius3 Yes, really. The "revamped" combat is terrible in the modern way terrible combat is terrible (dodge, hit hit, dodge solves everything). The tone and mood is ruined. Key moments are ruined (prison scene) Themes are ignored (the new ending), and then they constantly taunt fans of the original with memberberries (would this dress look good on me?) Oh, they also edited the original reading of Mary's letter, removed parts of it, and the actress delivered a WORSE version. This was the ONE PART they could have left the same, used the same audio clips from, and paid royalties to the original actress and nobody would have complained.

[@tonysladky8925]

Ah, the "one-sentence review into end credits" joke. Always a classic.

[@FitzyCify]

It will never fall out of style.

[@Mrhalligan39]

It was a remake.

[@benjaminlee985]

It's been 13 years since he last did that joke, it's okay to recycle it.

[@shantanubhatia7873]

Undertale is a good game.

[@MilkshakeVA]

@@benjaminlee985 Undertale is a good game!

[@Mysterynovus]

Silly Yahtzee, SH1 was remade already for the GBA in the form of a visual novel only for Japan!

[@pierce7993]

It was also remade for the Wii. That's what Silent Hill Shattered Memories was!

[@bioforest6602]

​@pierce7993 Let's be honest here. Shattered Memories was an original game with the original's character names and inciting incident slapped on to make Konami actually greenlight the game.

[@agahnim0196]

@@bioforest6602 This... SM is pretty good... but it has nothing to do with Silent Hill apart from the name.

[@mrman6035]

@@pierce7993 Shattered Memories is NOT Silent Hill 1. It's more of a walmart brand version of it.

[@Creamcups]

@@agahnim0196 It has vision impairing weather, an abandoned American town, enemies designed by a pervert and a main character going through their trauma. That's Silent Hill enough for me.

[@MD_Polydactyl]

Look, I know it would have been extremely messy legally. But as a visual gag, it would have been hysterical for all the old Zero Punctuation branding to be hastily wallpapered over with shinier Fully Ramblomatic art and an extremely detailed mo-cap face over Yahtzee’s sprite as an analogue to the visual upgrade Bloober Team provided for this remake.

[@DoratTheKiller]

OMG, that wouod have been great

[@mas8705]

“Could have been worse.” Huh. Kind of weird there’s still seven minutes left.

[@codywilliams7557]

@@mas8705 a whole minute and a half of credits and ads.

[@culade]

Don't worry about it. That's just added padding, like in the game.

[@Teh_Akod]

A lot of Patrons just subscribed, probably

[@mjc0961]

Lots of new Patrons this month

[@Dr.Death8520]

The ad read is just 5 mins long because the sponsor paid big buck

[@siege2218]

I could really tell the jump scares were getting old when, after going through the other world hospital and seeing a mannequin hiding in a corner, my partner yells at the screen from behind me “it looks like…somebody…WANTS TO SELL ME SOMETHING!!!”

[@blueberryiswar]

Yeah about the 4th of them you just think its kinda cute how they try to hide.

[@Neil_Manta]

5:08 That was my thoughts exactly when I played the remake "Why didn't they remake silent hill1?", because all the changes they made just make it so much more similar to silent hill 1: a more hostile town, more enemy variety, more combat, bigger rooms to serve as combat arenas, jumpscares, a more "open world" approach to the town itself, a clearer distinction between foggy world and other world(even the other world designs themselves are more similar to the ones in silenthill1/3 instead of 2). While SH2 utilizes all it's limitations, plays to their strength and turn them into something unique, in the first game the awkwardness are genuinely it's shortcoming, you would actually be improving it if you changes the voice acting, story, and camera angle. But we all know the answer to that: SH2 was the game with pyramid head and the nurse, and people will buy it. And because the base is already good, it's really easy to remake it and have it turn out also good.

[@prcervi]

remaking 1 also sets the precedent that they'll remake 3 (since it's the same story line) and i'm honestly more interested in seeing a remake/remaster of 4, cause that's the story that interested me

[@ItHamBoi]

they probably done 2 first because it's considered as the best in the series by many, it's also worth noting that Bloober Team was supervised by the original devs, so it also kinda was their second chance on this game, improving on some things they maybe wanted to do differently (the music is also made by the same composer as the og) :P

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

SH2 also got improved in multiple ways and voice acting is definitely one of them, purists just cannot ever admit that the English VA in the original was just genuinely bad because they replayed the game so much that they think every single element of it was responsible for its brilliance. It's like nah, you're just suffering from the mere-exposure-effect.

[@prcervi]

@@Howitchewstofeel5gum the janky voice acting was part of the fun, also that was a thing blighting like half the games on market at the time so calling it out was reserved for the truly great and terrible cases

[@Deliveredmean42]

​@@Howitchewstofeel5gumthat depends really. Because there are people that are indeed fascinated by unusual voice acting, and for some that can add to the atmosphere for these kind of games. With how messed up Silent Hill can be, and the swcond having that weird arse dream feel to it, it can work. Tho that works for the sequel, cant say the same for the first one, that game's voice acting definitely sound too camp lol

[@Wyrsa]

Yahtzee: why are you here viewer Viewer: this is the video you posted today and I need my ZP fix to get through the day.

[@Heisenberg-persona]

FR

[@solitairemask7754]

@@Heisenberg-persona fr fr

[@remylebeau34]

@@Heisenberg-persona for real/fully ramblomatic option select

[@bpc99149]

3:33 the fact that you can make James have a mental breakdown pretty much on demand is one of the best features in this game.

[@tzeentch7118]

Nice contrast to Isaac Clarke unleashing his inner tourettes.

[@Mortarius17]

Given that most of the monsters represent women, often specifically his wife, I read his frenzied beating on them as more than just a fear of monsters

[@psychomantis183]

No. It’s lame.

[@danielcollinson101]

@@psychomantis183 Agreed, a lot of the point of Silent Hill 2 is the distant and disengaged manner James goes about stuff, probably representing his repression. I mean the first time he finds a quivering spitting vagina monster, he doesn't yell or freak out, he takes a couple of cautious steps back and silently picks up a plank of wood and just beat that thing down like it's surfacing emotion.

[@psychomantis183]

@@danielcollinson101 The whole game is a walking psychosexual dream. The reason that these idiot developers (and most current film and game companies remaking beloved titles) fucked up so badly is because - 1. They have no artistic talent/understanding of their own. 2. They mistakenly think art is “objective realism”. Like a painter who thinks what makes art special is how realistic/illustrational an image is rather than the truth of the emotions and atmosphere it conveys. Silent Hill 2 was an artistic gaming masterclass. Trying to turn a dream into “reality” just makes it nonsensical, silly and powerless.

[@KeithFraser82]

That reminds me, I need to renew my subscription to Kick To The Face Monthly.

[@Stammer6]

"If you're here because you want my permission to like the Silent Hill 2 Remake..." is such a good statement. I know so many people who can't make their own opinions. Funny that such a sentiment usually forms around the triple-A industry though. "That game wasn't a lot of fun, but all of my favourite reviewers said it was 9/10, so I guess I liked it."

[@MegaZeta]

The sheer amount of people who are not able to deal with some KZbinr they like not enjoying _Silent Hill 2,_ as though it were mandatory

[@Shadethewolfy]

Funnily enough, I already decided that I was going to give the SH2make a fair chance when I'm able to afford it. I just came here to see what Yahtzee thought of it lol

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

"People who live in glass houses shouldn't get undressed during daylight hours." Five years of responding to every glass houses statement with a variation on this has finally paid off. I can now pretend that Yahtzee stole my joke, even though I'm well aware he probably never saw any of my comments and it's an easy joke to make if you think about what living in a glass house would be like.

[@line4169]

there are already many jokes made on similar thing, I was just watching Golmaal 3 & one popped out !

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

@@line4169 Here's where I smugly point out that this was the point of my joke. >.> *blows air horn

[@line4169]

@@cheezemonkeyeater ah 'the long worded sarcastically presentating a fictional situation with an imaginary object like it's a bloody play' reply

[@1IGG]

Heard the German Version of that joke 40 years ago. "Wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte im Keller duschen."

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

@@line4169 With added self-awareness for extra kick!

[@Smooterino]

It's been a pleasure waiting with you all for this!

[@kairider1770]

When it comes to a remake of Silent Hill 2, a “could’ve been worse” from Yahtzee is a glowing review from anyone else

[@Birdsflight44]

I mean... 乁⁠(⁠ ⁠⁰͡⁠ ⁠Ĺ̯⁠ ⁠⁰͡⁠ ⁠)⁠ ⁠ㄏ

[@jasonmullin3522]

I really don't know what a game could do to get it "Its really pretty good" or above

[@icarue993]

@@jasonmullin3522 Undertale, Dark Souls. I would add Persona 5, but he completed the game in spite of it flaws to see the characters and story to completion (aka, the combat was kinda eh)

[@gustavocampos7723]

​@@jasonmullin3522 His HiFi Rush review was basically "This game is so good that I am angry at the game industry for not making more good games"

[@jasonmullin3522]

@@gustavocampos7723 that's true, prob the newest of the games he's liked

[@nwojdak]

Well said. The remake is fun and I enjoyed it a lot, but it doesn't replace the original. The remake is a different vibe, and depending on how you're feeling, you can play either the original or remake, and get something different out of it

[@olo9127]

That’s one of my favorite things about the remake. It would never be able to supplant the original, so it does a similar thing with a new spin. It makes both worthy of your time in different ways.

[@planguy9575]

The only real benefit of the remake is it doesn't completely mess up the good story of the original and it is accessible to new players. It is worse the the original, but still fine.

[@seanhauth1683]

i honestly wish there was an easy way to viably have access to the original SH2 that isn't emulating but i do know that konami left the original gold master source code in their other pants and could never find it. as a result, this or emulation is probably the closest we'll get to be able to play silent hill 2 which is a shame since the og is great. remake is also good though. my only gripe so far with the remake is the jump scares. i don't remember those being in the og (my memory is shit so i can't really remember much of og SH2) and i am not fond of having my cortisol levels suddenly raised immensely

[@planguy9575]

@seanhauth1683 jump scares really get in the way of the cool and unsettling liminal space creepiness.

[@gonzalocacheiro4580]

​@@seanhauth1683 you can find the og pc version in the internet archive, and there is the fan project Silent Hill 2: Enhanced Edition that makes the game compatible with modern systems and adds 60 fps, widescreen and a lot of graphic improvements. It's the closest thing to a proper remaster that we'll get. I'm planing to replay it like that before playing the remake

[@Matt-Hazel]

"why are you here?" Dude, your writing. It's tart, but pleasant. Like a quality sour candy with a burst of sweet spicyness at the end. I could almost watch you review anything.

[@11equalsfish]

This is a really good way to put it, thanks for that.

[@Steven-uz2tt]

How do your knees feel after that?

[@Matt-Hazel]

@@Steven-uz2tt wore knee pads, dudes got endurance.

[@RuleroftheSandcastle]

And now, the moment we've been waiting for!

[@vincevileborne]

😂😂Indeed.

[@donovanx85]

Literally the one review I been checking in for.

[@Ile333]

Oh boy! Finally!

[@Ashamaxa]

"now Hulkenberg will put out" Seems Yatz still has Metaphor on his mind.

[@slashdot431]

As someone who hasn't played Metaphor yet but follows Formula 1, I was very confused

[@No_Superman10]

@@slashdot431 Who wouldn't want a night with Niko Hulkenburg if they could, honestly?

[@CentreMetre]

@@slashdot431 As someone who has no idea of either, i looked him up and found the formula 1 driver, i to am very confused.

[@fearingalma1550]

I missed that gag the first time well done

[@RideNGrind]

@@CentreMetre he's the F1 driver with the dubious record of most races without a podium

[@AleSlevin]

"Take something unique and make it more like everything else." That sumarizes it perfectly imho.

[@olo9127]

Have you played the game? Or just watched other people’s opinions on it?

[@AleSlevin]

@@olo9127 Completed it last week, took me 17 hours 34 minutes, killed 289 enemies, run 50.51 km The original I played a dozen times since it came out. The remake is fine as a game, but felt like playing RE Village (even the final boss fight is the same), it wasn't scary, felt repetitive, too long and the plot is dilluted due to poor direction. The idea of replying it feels like a chore.

[@naransolongoboldbayer8030]

@@AleSlevin Hope you checked out the new endings at least. I gas them up a lot but they're definitely the best addition made to the remake by far

[@olo9127]

@@AleSlevin Fair enough. I liked it, but I don't think it's perfect. It does seem like people have somewhat split opinions on it, especially on whether or not it was scary, which makes sense, as horror is incredibly subjective.

[@AleSlevin]

@@naransolongoboldbayer8030 Yeah, I got the Leave ending and watched the rest after, I liked them all, the actors did a god job.

[@lonewanderer3219]

Honestly I think the one big improvement was the abstract daddy fight. That was genuinely a perfect improvement, the claustrophobic arena, the thundering movements of the monster as it rambles down the hallway and destroys the corners and walls, and the section where you hide in the closet from it? It was great and put you into what Angela might have felt from her trauma.

[@technoboop1890]

I've seen the complaint that it lacks the pistons pushing through the fleshy tubes, with its obviously uncomfortable symbolism, what do you say to that?

[@jillreyerma7592]

@@technoboop1890 I'm pretty sure those are still in the fight? They show up towards the end, when the hallways are falling apart.

[@dapperowl6331]

@@technoboop1890 They might as well have Masahiro Ito pop up on the screen and do this👌👈

[@krystaldragon17]

​@@technoboop1890they show up, and one of the original devs even prefers the new Abstract Daddy design and fight

[@lonewanderer3219]

@@technoboop1890 honestly it’s a minor detail. The actually boss fight itself is much better than shift between corners and unload your guns into it. Missing the pistons is weird, but the environment being destroyed slowly throughout the boss fight is a much better imagery to show how Angela’s home life was being destroyed by her father and brother

[@blackdragoncyrus]

I really think they just overdid with the amount of enemies and padding in this game. The run from the hospital to the historical society, the prison, and the labyrinth itself just drags on to pad out game time. Survival Horror is one of the genres that suffers most from a padded play time. As much as I like Alien: Isolation, that game goes on for about 6 hours too long. I have similar feelings for this game, if you cut out around 4 hours, it would have been a much more palatable experience.

[@arlom5132]

I agree 100%

[@unsweetenedfruit]

I loved the remake, even as a die hard fan, and I'm definitely with you. I didn't mind the other area, but the labyrinth felt like a drag, especially with the battle arena areas.

[@donovanx85]

Being a huge fan of the original I agree 100% that the length was a bit too long. Personally, I think they could have cut some content and still had a wonderful game. But at the same time I can’t hate on Blooper too much, everything added was very well done and enjoyable on my first play, I also understand that they prob felt a longer run time was necessary to please new audiences. All that said, while not perfect I think Blooper did an amazing job and it feels at least that they do have love for the original.

[@adamdavis1737]

It's a weird kind of situation for me. I'm so starved of a good silent Hill game that part of me does enjoy the fact that there's so much of this game to experience But at the same time, you're 100% right. Even if I am enjoying myself because it's more silent Hill, at the end of the day it doesn't work in favor of the pacing. There can be too much of a good thing and a lot of people probably won't have the kind of patience and excitement that I have for what is indeed objectively just padding I'm with you on alien as well. I still think something like that IGN review was too harsh at the end of the day, but if I agreed on one thing about it, is that it drags on too long. There are too many fake out endings in that game. And lots of times the long stretches without the alien where you're mostly dealing with the Androids feels annoying rather than engaging Part of me almost wants them to combine Silent Hill 1 and 3 into one big remake if they are going to insist on the game being this long. Instead of trying to stretch both of them out.

[@joebagel9715]

The padding has also ruined the multiple endings that the OG has. I feel burn out and uninterested to reply for other ending.

[@TheDoctorOfThrills]

If you, at any point during development of a silent hill game, think to yourself "is this puzzle item centered in a highly irrational story about psychological desolation strictly necessary?" Then you've completely missed the point of Silent Hill

[@Grysham]

Not sure if Yahtzee Croshaw reads these comments, but just in case, I bought a bunch of your books and I've been loving them. Honestly, you capture a certain Terry Pratchet esque British comedic writing style I didn't even realised I missed so much. The "Will Save Galaxy for Food" series in particular was absolutely awesome and I'm loving Differently Morpheous so far. For anyone who hasn't tried them, give his books a shot. They're great.

[@strain42]

How you feel about this Silent Hill 2 Remake is interestingly enough, kinda how I felt about the Persona 3 Remake from earlier this year. Things that were once simple are now needlessly elongated. For example, P3 on the PS2 gave you the option to skip combat tutorials. Reload forces you to stop so that they can explain how item boxes work. In P3, if you knew which two mirrors in the hotel to smash, you could run right for them to smash them without a fuss. Reload forces you to go to the wrong room first, have the characters talk about the mirror, go to another room, figure out the answer as a group, and then lets you do it. The unchanged stuff is still great, but what is changed often either feels bloated, different for the sake of being different, or just adds in what Persona 5 did because hey, people liked that game.

[@divinecomedian2]

I guess it's common for remakes because FF7 is like that too

[@emhyrinovaremreisirinokrip7124]

Idk man, maybe I am not a hardcore enough fan, but after playing FES, portable and reload, I am... really happy with what reload does? FES is just filled to the brim with small annoyances that make it really tedious to actually play. As an example, on paper, I can appreciate how the combat in FES being a bit slower and less flashy fits better with the atmosphere, but, in practice, I had to play the combat on 500% speed because I got too bored with the awful, slow, animations. Another example is the lack of a quick travel menu. While yes, it adds to the atmosphere, its just such a nuisance that I had to mod FES to add it in. While reload does make the game a bit less atmospheric and more hand holdy, it also just makes it better in all things gameplay, to the point that I cant imagine playing a different version of P3 ever again.

[@greatsaiyaguy8868]

Genuinely so disappointing seeing what they did to P3 with Reload

[@strain42]

@@emhyrinovaremreisirinokrip7124 Look, I'm not saying that every single thing Reload changed was for the worst. It had a lot of good ideas and yes, general quality of life upgrades over the PS2 game from 18 years ago. I still think Reload is a perfect good game with a lot of stuff to offer. If a modern Persona fan were to ask me which P3 to start with and I know they'd already played 5, I probably would suggest Reload to them, despite me personally liking FES more. But Reload did either change or remove a lot of things that I thought were handled better in FES, so I know I don't like it better PURELY from a place of nostalgia. I don't like that Makoto can only wield swords now, I don't like how they changed how fusion spells work while removing most of them, not a fan of how you can't split up to explore Tartarus anymore. Many of those were things kind of unique to Persona 3 that later games removed, and it's a shame that a Persona 3 remake KEPT them removed. While your examples were things that FES didn't have because they didn't, at least for this series, exist yet. The things you used as examples were just things that later games had added, so of course the latest game was also going to have them. Even Portable from 2009 had already incorporated P4's fast travel map.

[@jaidens.g.1920]

@@strain42 my main annoyance with Reload is that I can't choose my club for the SLs. I'm a photographer irl, I wanna join the photography club, not be forced into the art club!

[@samuraicupcake289]

Its crazy to think i was a wee teenager when Yahtz released his Silent Hill 2 review. Never did I expect a remake of this, and especially not a _Fully Ramblomatic_ of it, but here we are 😂

[@RedSpade37]

Thanks for the laugh at the end. That was the most creative way of telling someone to "consume fecal" I've ever heard, I think.

[@HazzardousEco]

0:16 omg I remember this 'right to credits' gag from his Zero Punctuation days XD

[@snaphackelpop]

That subtle 7 wonders of the ancient world joke though

[@emilybarclay8831]

Wait until Yahtzee meets Colossuses of Rhodes Cock

[@DanGamingFan2406]

And now, the moment we've all been waiting for! *drumroll* Yahtzee: "Could've been worse." It's official, the remake is good! I'm glad Konami and Blooper can still make good games. And I agree, that Silent Hill one should be remade too.

[@mrman6035]

yeah i liked it and the new "Bliss" and Stillness" endings but on replay the Labyrinth and Prison are way too long now. Not to mention James only has one combo the entire game against the same 5 enemies.

[@dmcoub78]

They could also make a new game.

[@skweebwellington]

​​@@mrman6035I'm the opposite. I think the apartments and hospital are too long. Prison is just about right. Labyrinth also kinda long but not as much as the other two. Also asking for combos in silent hill is wild

[@skweebwellington]

​@@GugureSux there has never been anything perfect ever.

[@mrman6035]

@@skweebwellington James had different moves for each of his melee weapons in the OG

[@Umbra_Ursus]

The jumpscare bullocks is something that DOOM 3 did horribly, too. The first time an imp, or what have you, jumps out from behind a door at you? Spooked. The 900th? Actually working against them at that point, as the shotgun was a melee weapon, and they were seemingly trying to eat it out of my hands. The first time an enemy jumps you from behind? Maybe harrowing. The 1000th? It's more infuriating that most the fights become a game of "pin the tail on the human". Scariest parts of the game? Hell in general, for how beautifully eldritch it was, and more pressingly, that single section where you needed an SOS key, or something, and you know there's demons around you, on the roof or in the walls... But they're not jumping you. Not screaming. Not being a bad haunted house ride. Between that and the red paint rug around the area, it's legit unnerving, because it's one of the only times you really get to soak in the atmosphere.

[@anifreak9454]

Thanks!

[@alta_karl]

This is what the past seventeen years have been leading up to.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

Mediocrity.

[@lhays117]

The "Hanging Gardens of Babylon Foot" joke took a minute to register with my slow brain, but when it finally clicked I gotta say it was pretty brilliant.

[@YukoValis]

Can't wait to hear more about Jaaaaaaaaames Sunderland.

[@Uniscorn123]

It will forever be of the greatest irony that the review Yahtzee predicted would be useless to people ended up being the most useful one out there.

[@CabezasDePescado]

Is one of the few actual reviews of this game in this site, the other ones go OMG MASTERPIECE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL BLA BLA BLA with no nuance or criticism. Is irritating.

[@SpeedoIPL]

Damn, I feel so called out by the outro I might actually have to donate..

[@wearsjorge55]

A silent hill 2 review with a Michael J Fox joke, we really have travelled back in time. All that was missing was a Peter Molyneux joke and we truly would be back in 2009

[@SuperIchi]

"now Hulkenberg will put out" got me good lmao

[@jonathangibson9482]

The ".7 decaHitlers" joke got me laughing out loud. Broke me for a bit, marvelously done.

[@petrarcheleven8816]

Yahtz, you have me mistaken; I'd watch the ad reads even if I could afford the Patreon. Cause you make them funny.

[@ScuffedSoldier123]

I will say that the boss fights being longer and camera being closer are a issue, but for specifally Anglea and the Daddy boss fight is absoulty makes it better. You are stuck in a looping house with a stronger monster like Anglea was as a child and as you metaphorallically grow older you are finally able to fight back.

[@SavestateComic]

Sounds like you enjoyed it more than myself. I'm finding it to be a slog. I'm in the middle of the prison, opened a new area to find a ton of monsters, and just thought "ug" and shut it off for the night. I have plenty of practice fighting these things, so they aren't scary anymore, just mildly annoying.

[@Norules1704]

Dawg when I got to the prison and it gave me like 6 maps, I dropped the game for like a week. Talk about being stretched 3 times its original length.

[@gabriellong4375]

Blooper made James press X to not die.

[@gulpirak]

Did it? I don't remember any QTE's. Unless you're goofing, in which case, got me.

[@BoostedMonkey05]

​@@gulpirak the monsters can grapple you and you have to mash a button to shake them off like in Resident Evil

[@gulpirak]

@BoostedMonkey05 ah, didn't experience that.

[@rishabh2982]

It was in the OG games too. To get free of certain enemies grip you'd have to mash your buttons. The difference in OG you'd have to figure it out yourself, whereas in remake, it's on screen (which can be turned off)

[@tonberry2670]

OG Silent Hill 2 for the unsettling but unmatched atmosphere And the remake for the gameplay

[@dvlmc]

ah good, I needed to get my opinion injected directly into my brain

[@colebratcher2682]

“Hanging Gardens of Babylon Foot” got me so bad I had to pause the video for a bit to recover.

[@SteadfastWL]

So what I'm hearing is that we should emulate the original

[@Wiseman108]

My perception of the remake changed when I heard about the easter egg that suggest James has been reliving the same events in a loop for 20+ years.

[@dustinmillar120]

Decahitler is a new level of measurement that I didn't know I needed

[@TheAcad3mic]

And I guess .7 decahitler is equal to 7 regular hitlers? Damn.

[@ProfRainestorm]

I've watched your work since the original Fully ramblomatic a hundred years ago. Glad to see you havent lost a step Yahtz.

[@The_Number1Candyman]

This is basically the only channel I actually watch the ads on, nothing but respect for putting them at the end of the video

[@chrisjones5949]

That intro gag was absolutely perfect.

[@Voss_Man]

I find the OG had more atmosphere and was genuinely scarier, but I actually preferred the remakes larger environments. Also, I thought the remake improved on some areas, such as the prison and labyrinth.

[@lissaquon607]

Enh watching an LP the labyrinth felt a bit too long. But the town bits were nice - where it FEELS like an actual town that's gone off.

[@1theprince1]

The prison and labyrinth in the remake are a fckin drag to go through, utterly miserable, not in a good way. Bloated for no fcking reason.

[@randolphcarter1481]

The thing to understand is that they didnt just remake Silent Hill 2, they remade it as if it were a Resident Evil game.

[@zoombig]

Yes I'm huge Silent Hill fans. No I never played any silent hills game and I just watch video essays about them, why do you ask?

[@doerkdev1l]

This feels like an old Zero Punctuation Episode, which is like... the highest praise i can give

[@james1328]

The super high focus on combat would have worked amazingly on a Silent Hill 4 remake, that game already had high focus on melee combat and could use gameplay tweaks

[@basiloregano]

I just wanted to thank Yahtzee for all the years of entertainment. Early ZP, his work with Gabe, Mogworld, Jam, Consuming Shadow, and the ZP game were very formative to me as a teen. This might be the last new content from him I'll watch cause I feel like in a lot of ways I've outgrown his content. I hope you keep having fun and doing what you love Yahtzee.

[@grand_tourist46]

Why are we here, Yahtz? Let's say it was similar reasoning to why so many people were excited for your review of Aliens: Colonial Marines way back when, and later Balan Wonderworld.

[@Sad_Elf]

Litterally the first thing i had to do upon hitting triangle for the map and necking a drink instead was change that shit immediately, i put it on dpad up so all the consumable inventory items (including guns) were on the dpad and map was back on triangle where it bloody well belongs

[@Danmarinja]

Oh good, I’m allowed to like the game. I wasn’t sure how to feel before now.

[@zilvercederbom]

Welp, I'm off to buff out my neck, because "upturned wheel barrow" is totally going to be my next pyramid head cosplay.

[@Ubermensch9240]

1:23 NOW you have standards?!?!?

[@mogullll]

This is the only time in Yahtzee history where I’ve actually waited on one of his reviews to inform my purchase rather than just watching for entertainment

[@mogullll]

Edit 10 seconds in nvm

[@Reject101Personal]

Anything good about this remake is because it is Silent Hill 2. Anything crap is because its team Blooper.

[@christoffer886]

What a hyperbolic simplification not even close to being true. The amount of these types of comments and mentality online just makes my eyes roll out of my sockets.

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

@@christoffer886you want to know what makes me eyes roll? Watching people defend artless, cynical, cash grabs, and putting them on the same pedestal as the original, because they can’t be bothered or care enough to play anything new and unique or cry for game perversion

[@christoffer886]

@@doctordice2doctordice210 What are you even talking about? They literally had core members of team silent with them while making the game. How in the world is this remake even remotely a cynical cash grab? It's like people like you are unable to actually make a solid rational argument and just jump between one hyperbole to the next believing it's valid criticism. Even if Konami want to capitalize on their IP, like freakin all publishers want everywhere all the time, even the ones you like; Bloober did not make this in the ways of a cynical cash grab. The amount of care that's gone into every detail in this remake is the clear counter argument to that. You're just on the bandwagon of hate, in some echo chamber where you just regurgitate words you seem to have no understanding of what they mean. What are you gonna do next? Search around some more in that bag of hyperboles to find the next terms to throw around? Maybe an Ad Hominem or a genetical fallacy? Ugh...

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

@@christoffer886 you’re calling me hyperbolic yet here you are calling me a hateful , echo-chambered person for not liking what’s essentially a more generic version of a game I love with a lot of its identity erased That “care” and “love” could’ve been put into a NEW original game instead of a redo of a game that didn’t need it at all to begin with If you want to support companies rehashing people’s nostalgia instead of actually making new games and new memories, be my guy

[@christoffer886]

​@@doctordice2doctordice210 I don't think you know what hyperbolic means. And they are doing new games as well. Hell, they just released a trailer for their new original game. Maybe they have so much love and care that they can do both? You're just a nostalgia blind hater, and that's an interpretation of your actual rhetoric. The original Silent Hill 2 is the most important game ever for me, but I'm open minded enough to not let my biases control me. Must be depressing to be so ingrained in the herd mentality of disliking the remake. Actually believing that the remake is a deliberate assault against all who loved the original. With an inability to see when something is done with care and when something's an actual cash grab. Your argument just boils down to "make something new that others can play with but don't touch my stuff". Like your experience of the original is some objective parameter in all of this. Depressing.

[@V3Chris91]

Yahtzee: "Hanging Gardens of Babylon Foot" Silent Hill F Devs: "Write that down! Write that down!!"

[@subjectdelta7210]

Tldr: the review stop really early at the 0:19 second mark.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

"The sense of direction of a man with an upturned wheelbarrow on his head," he says as if that's not exactly who has been stalking him the entire game.

[@dangtiendung4766]

Wheter you like the remake or not, I hope it can bring some positive to the game industry by reviving interest in more serious tones and heavy themes in video games . Which became kryptonite to publishers for the sake of broad appeals.

[@Lazyboijere]

I think this remake really could have used xp and skill trees but it was a good time

[@jamesrule1338]

More bad but close to good games should get remakes. Silent Hill 2 didn't need a remake.

[@Guymanbot97]

Or "okay" games where you can see there was a vision that couldn't be met due to budget or time issues.

[@starmaker75]

Or if we going to remake good games, it games that were impressive at the time, but need some things iron out. Like with pokemon leaf green/firered and pokemon heart gold and soul sliver.

[@superstrat5826]

That description fits Silent Hill 2 perfectly tho? It was always way more fun to think about that to actually playthrough, the game itself wasn't good.

[@jamesrule1338]

@@superstrat5826 agree to disagree.

[@carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643]

Yahtzee: "Why are you here viewer?" Me: "Because Funny man makes me laugh."

[@Thegreatercheese]

Ooh look everyone, he's getting his nark on again.

[@LithmusEarth]

I got the PS2 4 years after I got the Wii which was on launch day, of very few games I've played were recommendations by you, I played silent hill 2 from start to finish first before anything else, and it was a great recommendation from you. Thank you. I'm just here now.

[@BugsyFoga]

“Couldve been worse “ is probably one of the more nice thing Yatzhee could say

[@guguy00]

"Yeah it's pretty good" - ZP for Fallout 3, cut to credits. same gag now that I think about it

[@soundrogue4472]

0:46 You know; I love that honesty.

[@TheZoobZoobs]

After having been starved for 14 years since the last decent title, this was a great surprise honestly. I'll take my 8 out of 10 and will be happy. I just hope they indeed do SH1 and SH3 now.

[@tzeentch7118]

And 4, THE Silent Hill game that needs most fixing.

[@sd5919]

For horror it's a 9.5. I say this as someone who hasn't played the original. The padding is the only thing I'd dock it points for.

[@maximillionpegasus5160]

Must have been over 15 years ago I first came across Yahtzee with his original silent hill 2 video, glad he is still doing so well

[@Oxcymoron]

You're the first person I've seen mention how easy it is to accidentally hit the heal button . I even swapped out the map and heal button just to mix them up even more 😮‍💨

[@olo9127]

It helps a bit that you can dodge to cancel the heal.

[@Oxcymoron]

@@olo9127 okay that makes sense, I accidentally cancelled it one time but didn't realize it was the dodge button that did it.

[@TPrime85]

I’m not alone in the swapping buttons!! 😂😂😅😅

[@Oxcymoron]

@@TPrime85 I knew I couldn't have been the only one, I finished the og right before the remakes release so I was stuck on the old controls I guess😮‍💨

[@alexalexander1772]

Due to the original I keep spare light bulbs in a coffee can for our short term rental. I actually had 1 person get the reference a few years ago.

[@ReverendTed]

"I already told you my opinion on this remake will be useless to you." Yahtzee, you seem to be laboring under the illusion that I'm here for a valuable review. I'm here for jokes. I don't care about the _subject_ . Also, you seem to be under the impression I skipped the ad read. I _watch_ ad reads if the first few moments seem like it's going to be a clever, bespoke affair and not a forced dry dictation. (Nobody likes a forced dry dic..tation. Especially if there's a bespoke affair to be had.)

[@GryphonICD]

*grabs snack, brushes down chair, takes a seat, prepares* This is the review we've been waiting for.

[@Tyler-gg6xt]

O boy, I've been waiting for you to do this one. He can't shut up about silent hill

[@FlameSama1]

Yahtzee scolding me for skipping to the end gags as I had my cursor on the end of the video reading them is hilarious.

[@stratuvarious8547]

Thank you, I've been saying since I first heard this announced, "Why don't you remake the first one instead?"

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Does Shattered Memories count as a remake?

[@idakev]

​​​​@@DMBlade4 The goal of either would be to make money. There's just as genuine a case for letting new people play Silent Hill 2. And many long term fans can't even play Silent Hill 2 anymore. The vast majority of people who play these games are on consoles, not PC. They can go back and remake 1 now that they've got much bigger audience into the franchise. And now people will actually buy it. No need to moan

[@stratuvarious8547]

@@NotAGoodUsername360 Somewhere in the range of sort of and not quite.

[@stratuvarious8547]

@@idakev It would have made much more sense to start from the beginning, especially if the goal is to bring in new players. Capcom started the remakes with Resident Evil 1, sure, there was a 15 year gap before they remade 2, but they still started with the first game. Especially given how so many marketing people want to do away with numbers to not scare away new playters.

[@christopherstathis4419]

Cause 2 is the most popular title in the entire franchise, that people who never played any of the games associate the series with that one.

[@RCascade1996]

That Laura and Eddie simile got ma laughing hard man. Very spot on 😂

[@thomasgiles2876]

Stephanie Sterling: This is one of the most haunting depictions of abuse in horror. Yahtzee: I play this with my hand down my pants

[@coltonwilkie241]

Jim got married? Good for him.

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

@@coltonwilkie241 no, she’s trans. Came out a few years ago. Goes by Stephanie now.

[@flamingmanure]

@@thatkidwiththehoodie he*

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

@@flamingmanure I’m not doing this with you today.

[@TPrime85]

⁠@@flamingmanure*she

[@joshconfer209]

I love that the auto skip found Yahtzee talking during the outro about skipping ahead and skipped everything else

[@Lippeth]

First everyone said it looked bad, then suddenly they said it looked good. Then it came out and it still looks the same as it always did...serviceable, which compared to other current releases right now is a masterpiece, sadly. I might buy it on sale in a year or so, but I can't justify paying $70 for an over-the-shoulder, jacket swishing, wet rubber map looking, Unreal 5 TeaserPlay walking, trivially expanding, camera moving with every action to give me motion sickness, three monster fighting, bad but in a different way voice acting copy of a game that I already have. Honestly it looks serviceable, and I've tolerated worse, I just had to get that out.

[@redactedandredactedaccesor7290]

It does look bad. That is for sure. A PS2 game looks better.

[@divinecomedian2]

There's this weird notion that since it's not as bad as was expected then it's actually a great game. It's like the opposite of an over hyped game getting roasted more because it's it was disappointing.

[@massiveidiot77]

It's fun

[@Lomaxxx53]

the reality is that it's not a remake, it's a cover song. a good cover song tho.

[@Lippeth]

@@massiveidiot77 that means a lot coming from you lol

[@devronius]

It's very affirming to me that you had the exact same issue with that first jukebox puzzle.

[@KirbyDerbi]

The last 12 years of my life have lead to this moment

[@Paludion]

I was briefly thinking of "world wonders body parts" to add to your list, but not only did you beat me to the punch, you also immediately thought of the Colossus. XD

[@DoctorTheo]

Oh I've been waiting for this

[@Kris-2]

This is the one we have ALL been waiting for!

[@Rawrbarianxoxo]

Hey dude, I’m here because YOU made a video on it don’t yell at ME

[@killpuddle9977]

This is one of my most anticipated reviews ever

[@Huvpalto]

I really hope they’ll remake the room next. That one was the prime example of something that had potential and good ideas (the cozy room, your only safe space slowly getting more haunted to the point that you prefer the nightmare because at least there you can actively defend yourself is one of the best ideas ever in my book) but led down by very dodgy design. If they could fix that and cut the escort mission that’s half of the game they could make a great game out of it.

[@AshP210]

"Cold, oppressive background willies" wasn't something I was expecting to hear today