Stephen Douglas - Trump Destined to be Manipulated and Abused by Putin and to Betray his Interests

[@spxram4793]

Growing up in socialist Hungary, and being a young adult in 1989 at the time of system change, I am very much used to the russian way of propaganda. Btw love the term disinfolklore 💙 as a name for it . For an informed person, that kind of propaganda was and is insulting, with it's primitive manupulation. The same methods they used back then to promote "socialism", "peace", "internationalism" (meaning wars and interventions). I hated it back then and after Putin was nominated in 1999, I immediately started to hear the same kind of rhetoric. Well - he is a KGB man through and through so it was clear what will happen to the russian society .

[@toi_techno]

Hungary wasn't socialist, it was an authoritarian, surveillance state. The Soviet system was basically a feudal system with a monarch/leader who had an aristocracy of thugs and apparatchiks who maintained control of a very poor society whilst living comfortably themselves. Orwellian pigs. Calling yourself "socialist" doesn't make you a socialist. There has never been an actual socialist or communist society.

[@ceejay9663]

Perhaps you can play a role in warning Americans against the ills of following the "socialism" and "internationalism" tracks in the future. It never ends well....

[@patrickcain9082]

Exactly. I saw Putin as a Stalinist 15 years ago!

[@fibhufky]

This is why it's so hard to understand why Hungarian people keep on electing the Putin's stooge, Orban.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

I know you'll stay strong and it warms my heart! Spread your knowledge!

[@DSAK55]

"they're coming to eat your dogs, they're coming to eat your cats"

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

They can try! 😾

[@karenlee2565]

Ukrinae and Zelensky are an inspiration ! I am relieved to hear your talk and your hope for him and his country.

[@quantumeseboy]

The salvation in the creator of chaos is how mafia operates.

[@TKMcClone]

Great to see Stephen Douglas back again. Analysing the effects of miss information and propaganda is always an interesting topic.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

I keep watching Vatnik Soup. So funny and informative! Thank to Jonathan for introducing me to this crazy guy.

[@gyrateful]

Everything Trump touches turns to... Hint, not gold. Si Curtian has the best content. This one is very good.

[@lenscleaner-r7q]

Thanks! Great interview, I enjoyed the conversation. 👍

[@Join_IT_Army_UA]

🖥Thanks Jonathon. Good work. When bots cry, you know you are getting to the truth. PS.. Cyber-losses now estimated reaching $10 billion for RU economy.🖥⚡🔥😎

[@willdon.1279]

Yes, the Russian trolls are flat out everywhere...

[@Mopsisgone]

I would welcome any and all information in this area Join...😀👍

[@Join_IT_Army_UA]

@@Mopsisgone Google "IT Army of Ukraine". On our website all details needed.

[@gimmeagig]

I unsubscribed from a lot of channels after the election. I decided I need to keep Trump out of my living room and my conciousness for my own mental health. It's poison just like what Putin spews.But I'm keeping your channel.

[@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869]

So when Putin rambles on about what His people pumped into Western Culture, the Trump points out that those same things are bad.... Do you even know where your mindset comes from?

[@williamlloyd3769]

It not a matter of tuning out completely, it’s about limiting the BS you hear throughout the day. You can get worn out by outrage

[@American-In-Mykolaiv]

@@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 Trump does not speak English - he speaks incoherent crap that only makes sense to MAGA people like you.

[@geekworthy7938]

Amen!

[@thor9563]

I am telling my fellow dudes about this new movie I was told to watch about some women dressed like little red riding hood being abused by 'the big bad wolf'. I think it is called The Handmade Tail. I guess it is supposed to help us figure out the struggles women go through when trying to kill their little girls asleep in their mother's womb and mature thoughtful people try to stop them.

[@Unruffledbird]

Loved it. What an unusual approach & so illuminating. Thank you for this guest

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

Some say lies don't kill. - The do! 🤔

[@DarkestAlice]

Thank you, Jonathan and Stephen Douglas, for another excellent conversation. I hope, you will continue it. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@michaelgreaves2375]

You must be doing something right. The trolls are here pretty early.

[@persperspersp2866]

This video is pure gold.... weaving together the personalities, the geopolitics, and even tying in the psychological and bringing in the fatalist mindset of certain Russian authors...... this is absolutely some of the best stuff on KZbin. I love Silicon Curtain....

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

@@persperspersp2866 I hope you know Vlad Vexler!

[@lost1nMarmite]

Your guest absolutely nailed it. 👍

[@sovereignukraine]

I realy loved this interview. It tied together and opened up many connections from literature I have read E.G. Crime & Punishment. Gave me a new insight. Excellent.

[@fortunecookie3765]

I can't Trump anymore.

[@willdon.1279]

My mum - "Who has just trumped? Open the window!" You'll get bloated. 😂

[@winfordnettles3292]

Guess we’ll just put you in the “impotent” group now…..

[@birgitlucci9419]

​@@willdon.1279 😂

[@builderbob3149]

Fascinating interview. 👍

[@Yahyia-cv3sx]

Thanks, gentlemen, for your conversation (interview) and clarifying the fog resulting from Russian lies (disinformation).

[@lesleepetersen87]

Your channel is the best, Jonathan!!! Thank you!!!

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Him and Vlad Vexler are my favorites.

[@monikahammaren8509]

Stephen Miller is still around Trump.

[@carstenlauren]

wow, you did it again. Thank you! This is one of my favorit channels.

[@jamesbarker5326]

Its entirely predictable that at some point trump will turn on him as indeed he will turn on his slapstick appointees for his upcoming administration.

[@LiberalinOregon]

Not if they do what the criminal wants them to do.

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

​@@LiberalinOregon pretty sure hes the kind of boss to eventually throw you under a bus no matter how loyal a bootlicker to try to be.

[@LiberalinOregon]

@@andersbjrnsen7203 I hope you are correct.

[@KathrynKlos]

Great conversation and thought provoking!

[@Bosse2024]

Thank you!

[@Donovanwashere]

Great work, Jonathan!! 🙏

[@johnstringer5359]

Thanks

[@rafaelsanz3441]

Brilliant !

[@40watt_club]

Thanks!

[@jimcusack433]

The old KGB ‘Vladivostok to Dublin’ dream still lives. They caused the Troubles in Ireland.

[@liameoin5416]

Ay Jim. The troubles in Ireland was caused by the brits. Where you been lad.

[@Agnemons]

@@liameoin5416 While I fully agree that the brits were the "stick" that was stirring the pot in Ireland you can beat your boots that the Soviet Union had a hand steering that stick.

[@irongron]

Mr, Douglas made a good point at the start of the show regarding Trump's trolling. Due to the power of the POTUS account he was the greatest 💩poster on the planet until Elon bought Twitter.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Trump surely Makes Americans Greatly Antagonized!

[@jotaere100]

Yeah right

[@RelationalDatabase-us7fr]

May I recommend a book called: Disinformation by Pacepa and Rychlak.

[@markyg254]

Absorbing discussion. Great work.

[@toby9999]

Brilliant and informative conversation. Thank you.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Darn, Jonathan, this interview was all sorts of lovely! Very informative summary, again! Don't stop.

[@williambarnebee40]

The term is Gas Lighting

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

Yea, Trump uses NATO, to motivation Russia to kill Europe. - Because they ask for it... Nice ally?

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

With a friend like Trump, one does not need enemies....

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

@@MartinLundström-l4v I cannot agree with this.

[@Rjsjrjsjrjsj]

"Don't you cross my bridge or I'll eat you. Said the giant with a terrible roar. Please don't eat me sir 'cause I'm tiny. And my brother's right behind and he weighs a great deal more. So the giant let him pass and he sang this song, I'll just wait here 'till (I can't recall the names) comes along." 😁

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Nice!

[@winfordnettles3292]

Putin has no idea of what he is in for shortly. Can you say “shock and awe”?

[@grantg9324]

There’ll be a few squeaky bums in Moscow this evening I would think!

[@ceejay9663]

Putin will NOT bend to Trump, which T seeks, so the backlash could be EPIC!!

[@oakhauser]

It is working exactly in the same way in France

[@toi_techno]

Great guest

[@astrolingus]

Brilliant! Remarkable analysis.

[@echadmiyodea]

Finally, someone fluent in memetics, the thing that controls all of our brains as we are embedded in it.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

A Historic Internet moment.

[@nielsarum8057]

very curious and super interresting

[@riverfreddy]

Trump ...Yes!

[@louisaweiler5340]

IN-credibly interesting! Thank you 😊

[@jimcusack433]

This was enjoyable and very impressive.

[@kittykat6098]

Brilliant, thanks for brain workout 🏋️‍♀️

[@GMT_400]

Now is the time to buy European defense stocks. Get your thinking right. Trump!🤘

[@69Phuket]

Biden lifts strike restrictions! Yea! 19:00 GMT

[@robertsmuggles6871]

is this true ??

[@69Phuket]

@@robertsmuggles6871 It was on BBC news.

[@EvoraGT430]

@@robertsmuggles6871 Yes!

[@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw]

Years too late. The war would be over if Biden did that earlier and delivered the aid approved by congress. The war has been so mismanaged. Nothing changed that makes striking Russia now any different than a year ago. The restrictions are lifted now because Biden just feels like doing it.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

@@robertsmuggles6871 Oh yes! I bet Ukraine are rubbing their hands, debating what juicy morsel to puncture first...!

[@asynchronicity]

Excellent

[@ChadBlevins]

go to Bluesky

[@Patc-n6n]

Quit X, go to bluesky

[@Jesse-v7h]

Like BlueSky better than X

[@Rockall57]

What and become a blue titter..😂

[@SmedleyDouwright]

BlueBubble

[@rhondabailey9238]

@@SmedleyDouwright Living in the "BlueBubble" Makes sense...Living in the 'Stinkin'Thinkin'FartBubble' does not

[@tiberiupaslaru3830]

Incredibly useful discussion guys. I am amazed that some of these conclusions I’ve worked out by myself, but you guys are pro, and decoded a lot more of this “book of disinformation “ that seems to be used all around the world

[@SteveClay-jd9lc]

Putin and Trump below

[@oscarmora4602]

Informative

[@kimskomars497]

Brilliant

[@marna7325]

Catherin (the "Great") spent years erasing the memory of Ukraine from world memory. Today, people don't even have a mythology of Ukraine (like they do about Britain or France or Spain) to counter the Russian one.

[@danielmcinnes20]

👌🇨🇦🇺🇦🇨🇦🙏🏻❤️

[@jimgraham6722]

Wont be on manipulated, not necessary, he is on payroll.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Who is?

[@sirrodneyffing1]

Johnathan. Do you know how I could start to find an interview with a Russian historian from 20 (or so years ago) that I watch on TV. The historian told the interviewer how he had been hired by Putins Govt. to rewrite Russian School history books. I remember it because of just how ashamed of what he had done he seemed; he was full of remorse, even while he was explaining how he'd done it. It was probably Panorama, World in Action or Newsnight?? I can't be sure but, who best to contact to find it? Thanks.

[@grantg9324]

You could write to a Californian company that deals with such requests for information, called Google I believe…

[@tk80mufa5]

Man that sounds wild! 😮

[@sirrodneyffing1]

@@grantg9324 Please don't be facetious. It was probably on an otherwise unremarkable program for the time, on British weekday TV, from a long time ago; of course I've looked for it but there are professionals who do this kind of work and Johnathan is well connected in the UK MSM world so I thought I'd ask.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Anna From Ukraine just finished the part two of her anti-propaganda six parts series "Russian literature is FAKE!? How the Kremlin uses it for war | BIG RUSSIAN LIES #2" I'll watch it right after this here.

[@rolandscales9380]

13:32 - The alleged shelling of Donetsk. This was one of Richard Medhurst's favourite allegations.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Some Russian trolls will have to be dealt with, everywhere.

[@JaneSoole]

Where do you support your documentary????

[@stevenjohns-savage7024]

Billy Goat Gruff 😃

[@fortunecookie3765]

"A Speech About Listening (Or Not Listening, Very Sad, Very Sad)" Folks, let me tell you something, okay? And this is something, believe me, nobody is talking about it, but they should be. You know, people used to love listening to me. They loved it. Tremendous crowds. They said, “Sir, we could listen to you forever!” They did, they said that. And you know what? They were smart people. Very smart people. Some of the smartest people. Probably the smartest people you've ever met. Maybe in history. Tremendous IQs. Bigly IQs. But now-now, folks, I'm hearing, and this is really sad, folks, really, really sad-I’m hearing people can’t even bear to listen to me. Can you believe it? They say things like, "Oh, when Trump talks, my brain gets all melty-melted," or "Sir, I don’t understand anything you’re saying anymore." These are the losers saying this. The haters. They’re weak. They don’t have strong minds like we do, folks. You’ve got strong minds, believe me. The best minds. Tremendous minds. And it’s not me, folks, it’s them. They can’t handle it. It’s the American IQs. They’re going down. Plummeting. Boom! Like a rock, okay? I’m talking rocket-speed, folks. You know the rockets? The ones I made great again? The ones Elon loves? Like that, but down. Sad! And it’s because they stopped listening to me. They said, "Sir, your words, they’re so powerful, so incredible, they make our brains work too hard. Too many words. Big words. Hard words." And I said, "What are you talking about? I use the best words. The most beautiful words." But they couldn’t handle it. And now, folks-get this-they’re saying, "Trump talks, and my brain goes bzzzzzt," like a broken radio. You know the sound, right? It’s like, bzzzzzt, bzz-bzz. I don’t know. Maybe it’s the 5G. Is it the 5G? They say it’s safe. I don’t know. I hear things. I hear things, folks. But you know what I think? It’s jealousy. Jealousy, folks. They’re jealous because I talk so good. I talk better than anyone, frankly. Better than the scientists. Better than Einstein. People are saying it. But let me tell you-let me tell you something else. This whole thing about IQs going down? It’s not my fault. No way. I make people smarter! When I talk, your brain gets exercise, folks. It’s like, uh, CrossFit for your brain. The best CrossFit. Tremendous. But these people, the haters, they’re too lazy to do the mental push-ups. Too lazy, folks. And they’re scared! Scared of being smart. Scared of being great again. That’s why they say, “Don’t listen to Trump.” Because they can’t handle greatness. My greatness. But you’re here, you’re smart, you’re strong. Your brains are doing the push-ups right now. Tremendous push-ups. I’m proud of you. You’re making America smart again just by listening to this. So don’t stop, okay? Don’t stop. Keep listening. Keep winning. And don’t let the weaklings, the haters, the sleepy Joes of the world tell you otherwise. Because we’re making brains great again. Tremendous brains. Beautiful brains. The best brains. Thank you, folks. Tremendous.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

I do mind muscle building with Vlad Vexler, I come hear for mind cardio!

[@scottharrison812]

Don’t forget Putin has the Kompromat photos of mr trump. Good ol’bad ol’ KGB tactics…

[@asynchronicity]

What use would they be now though?

[@monikahammaren8509]

Pictures don’t matter now, he is on second term!

[@benjaminmyers5299]

If they existed, they would have been leaked years ago😂

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Ridicule will never kill Trump. I don't think he cares. I think it's one of the only good things about him.

[@Jesse-v7h]

Even our adversaries mock Trump look what Putin did with Trump’s wife on their national television. They are laughing at him.

[@tk80mufa5]

Have you not been watching the last years ? They mock everyone , Brandon , Boris , Macron , Scholz ....... it's their thing. Personally i thought they are just jealous.

[@jerrymiller9039]

Our adversaries are afraidof Trump, as are you

[@50-50_Grind]

@@jerrymiller9039 Yes, afraid of the idiotic decisions he'll make this time.

[@Kredefjeset]

​@@jerrymiller9039No they are not. He's a clueless pragmatist they can manipulate to give them what they as long as it seem to agrandise him.

[@jerrymiller9039]

@50-50_Grind watch and learn. Remember, Trump clearly called on Europeans to stop buying russian oil and to invest in their own defence and your leaders ridiculed him for it. Trump understood what was better for Europeans than the European leaders did

[@apkosmic]

Well that was complete gibberish. Thanks

[@spxram4793]

Unsubscribe topic: I have quite a few politics, economy, Ukraine, Europe, US, and a few China related channels on subscription. The last few months (not "after the election") I find myself kicking out channels which are not up to date (... same news 2-3-4 days later), or do not have a real added value - repeating other's talking points is a waste of time for everybody .

[@danielliamoneill]

Always enjoyed listening to Decoding on MriyaReport (when Gunny wasn't being a knob), pity Yehuda destroyed it from inside.

[@cjmatulka8321]

Goes back to the Nancy's been behind a curtain watching the moon and stars for the answers to Ronnie's most pressing questions era. lol Thanks for the explanations on the situation at a level most Americans rarely achieve but always strive for, somewhere around but never seek to surpass middle schoolers diction and mannerisms. Great job, on top of it opinions. We'll always need to aspire to lawful responsibe leadership, because when that store is looted the lines blur, life goes sideways starting from the bottom shelf, the loop of self suffocating corruption works until it doesn't... Go Ukraine!

[@diakritika]

That was an interesting take! But can we counteract the fake folkore in some way?

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Yes. With the real folklore that predates the fake one by many centuries.

[@aaronmlller8150]

😅😅 I just realized that the thumbnail of Young Jonathan with his wavy hair isnt in fact Mark Zuckerburg... 😂 I was always confused as to why he wpuld be there... glad thats sorted. 😂

[@joeminella5315]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

Throw Amerika out-off NATO... They are sooo Generous! ( Sweden )

[@davemccrillis1470]

Love the idea. Have fun with your Russian adventure.

[@louisnaidu9140]

Thanks for another interesting interview.

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

Amerika... - We support you 100% , as long as you don't need support. Goto save : 'Tax Payers Money' ... Priorities & fairy tales...

[@magdaopalski8601]

excellent analysis!! Thank you so much!, 0:15

[@RicDelbridge]

Trump might fall out a window thrrr playing with fire

[@georgeanthony6767]

So... is he saying that a Woke person... is a dunce who has no memory?

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

No, you said that.

[@NathansHVAC]

lol "authoritarian minded" Trump doesn't act it. He thinks it. lol.

[@steernkieker]

Pondering about the autocrats, dicktators (pun intended), warmongers, politicians, preachers and clowns, is a total waste of intellect and time. Offer a way out instead, please.....

[@timmommens901]

🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦✌✌✌🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@margblarp9426]

...

[@viveviveka2651]

The Power of Myth

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Pootler is a rather based on fiction kind of guy!

[@marna7325]

The problem is that tio many people in the US think the U'KRAINE is near U'ganda (somewhere is Africa).

[@robertsmuggles6871]

You need fairy tales. Jonathan believes his work will help towards victory for Ukr. I support this dream financially - analysis destroys the illusion - it is deconstructive and uncreative. We need stronger more powerful myths to defeat russia.

[@ObiKKa]

Third comment!

[@NathansHVAC]

lol. swamp crying

[@Kredefjeset]

No its not. Its busy taking up spots in Trumps cabinet

[@DianeMerriam]

Vranyo. I know you're lying. You know that I know that you're lying and I know that you know that I know you're lying ... but let's all just act as if it's the truth anyway.

[@davidpitchford6510]

TDS

[@stevenjohns-savage7024]

Hahahaha 😃. Here ya go 😜. Your in the fairytale right now 😊. The Special Operations between the ORCS and ELVES 😊

[@lawrencemartin24]

Jeez... I think Russians are posting here... Do ya think? Orban has it right.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

What is "it"?

[@LiberalinOregon]

Having a right wing guest ranting about the American left didn’t help the cause of democracy. Both siding USA’s political parties is politics not honest conversation. In this case both sides didn’t work out for us wanting an honest party to win. I was so disappointed with that guest and shocked you would promote such a man. I just needed to get that off my chest.

[@njswampfox474]

The American left has embraced anti-democratic totalitarian tactics, which largely explains why Trump won. It is entirely possible if Putin rebuffs Trump, that Trump will turn up arms shipments to Ukraine and take Biden's handcuffs off Ukraine.

[@96alexandermorgan]

Somehow, Trump created Covid? Lol, this guy seems to know a lot of Russia, but not much about Trump and his supporters. Based on this video.

[@victornewman9904]

The premise in the title betrays ignorance of how Trump actually operates.

[@william_marshal]

Yeah we know, Putin looks upon Trump as a clown, that's why he put up naked photo's of Melania Trump on Russian national TV. Now let's see if Putin's assessment is correct !!!

[@davidmillsaps384]

Ukrainian from group

[@arobson1942]

I can no longer follow your channel because the sound is unintelligible. Sounds like Jonathan has a really bad cell phone connection. The guest sound is better, but not good.

[@julilab]

strange, sound is great with me here on notebook

[@DianeMerriam]

No problem with the sound that I'm listening to. You might need to check your speakers.

[@jimczerwinski4951]

Possible reason for unsubscibing, one of your interviews entertained a person critical of Elon Musk.

[@joanofarc6402]

This speaker is a rambling mess! Omg. Typically your interviews are really good.

[@新型コロナは空事です]

Wishful thinking. Trump will never turn on Putin.

[@AkenValle]

This is hilarious, why cope? Why cope so much? Is hope only thing pro Ukrainians have left?

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

Huh? Russia doesnt even have hope. I wonder how long they can keep taking these kinds of losses, big manpower resources isnt the same as inexhaustible resources.

[@EvoraGT430]

1 potato for you comrade bot.

[@AkenValle]

@EvoraGT430 how is front doing?

[@udsmall7306]

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[@udsmall7306]

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