Surprising Ways The EufyCam S3 Pro Boosts Home Security!

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

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[@Viewer765]

Is there any camera better than eufy that have doorbell and cctv that can be live all day on a screen

[@Viewer765]

Do you have a screen to view eufy 24/7

[@Viewer765]

How far can it be from a router

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

@Viewer765 You can view this camera on various smart displays, but not 24/7.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

@Viewer765 Too many variables on a case by case basis to give you an exact distance. For this model you have to consider how far the HomeBase is from your router & then how far the camera is from the HomeBase.

[@phyllisgarrison2887]

It’s refreshing to have ANY company respond to what the customer wants! Like the solar panel. Good review.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Refreshing indeed! Thanks!

[@aaroneiger4576]

Thank you for the great video!! I am replacing an Arlo system with 6 cameras, doorbell and 2 base stations. Some of the cameras are battery powered and some are A/C powered. I am between Eufy and Reolink… Which one do you think is a better system? Thank you!!

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching! It’s close, but i give the slight edge to Eufy. Geofencing & integrated solar panels give them the edge.

[@aaroneiger4576]

@@GeorgeLangabeerThank you for the quick response. Does Eufy offer a 180 camera (2 lens)? The Argus 4 Pro seems like a really logical and reliable design. Also, which system is more flexible in the long run… ( i might want to add wired cameras down the road).

[@donyah4392]

Good morning! I’m trying to decide between the eufy S3 pro and Reolink Altas pt ultra. I’ve watched both videos and I’m turn between the systems. Any reasons to pick one over the other? Also which indoor cams would you pair with each system? I need the whole setup.😊

[@stealthemail3829]

Watch the The Den of Tools video about Eufy. They are stealing all information from your system.

[@nk60001]

Thanks for the review. Next can you test the power supply option. Full time record and pre recording.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

I sure can.

[@saulbass9293]

Thanks George, really interested in this camera. Great review as always. Glad to see you are well.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

You’re very welcome. It’s a pretty cool camera. Thanks for the comment & thank you for watching!

[@dwaynehamrick]

Eufy does it again. To me they are just so ahead of the game compared to other brands. Love that they are reintroducing Apple Home compatibility to their cameras. My hope is that they make a doorbell that’s got Apple home as well so I can have a full kit. I currently use them but through homebridge to be Apple home. Which is a pain.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

I’m hoping for a new doorbell as well.

[@AJM0201]

​@@GeorgeLangabeer I'm hoping for a 4k wired doorbell with dual lenses

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

@AJM0201 that would be nice indeed.

[@spizzy7996]

@@GeorgeLangabeer I’m hoping for more than 15fps in 2024.

[@damiangrouse4564]

@@GeorgeLangabeer am I correct this system is wireless only?

[@phuckinggraphicdripdotcom]

Always check a speed test on your phone or tablet in the area you want to place your camera before placing a camera. to ensure your camera will function well in that area.

[@jamesking3330]

The GOAT of security cameras

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

lol. I don’t know about that, but thank you. I really appreciate it.

[@stealthemail3829]

Watch the The Den of Tools video about Eufy. They are stealing all information from your system.

[@tomlace8653]

Thank you for another fine and helpful review.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@Sremuuhh23]

Great Vid, my main attraction to eufy would be Homekit, just chatted with Eufy and they said Homekit will be in a future firmware for Homebase 3

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

It’s already in the HomeBase 3, but it only works with this camera.

[@frankraccio5688]

George you have the best reviews

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Thank you. I appreciate that very much.

[@EdgarsHomeTech]

Great review as always, George.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Thanks Brother!

[@OmnipotentLife]

Great video. Thank you George

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Thank you & you’re welcome!

[@electrichimp]

Awesome video thank you! Would love to see a comparison with the Aqara g5 when it comes out :)

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

I’m definitely looking forward to trying the G5.

[@BenLipseyNE]

Great information. Thanks

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@andybynum5365]

Great review. Just curious; how do you keep your TV waterproof from the rain?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Thanks! It’s a waterproof TV from Sylvox. They are actually about to send me a new one for review. So I’ll be doing a video on that one sometime in the next couple months. I’ve loved this one though.

[@jonathanitin9065]

Great video George thanks for the review. As far as two-way audio goes unless I’m missing something it looks like Eufy is still not integrating two way audio into HomeKit. This is a dealbreaker for me as it always has been with Eufy. Otherwise, I’d be ordering these today. I don’t know why they’re the only brand that has an issue with this.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Thanks & You’re welcome! Yeah, I don’t know either.

[@jamiewalter-]

Does the color night vision work in Apple HomeKit or just while using the eufy app?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

It works in both.

[@blakewillard7922]

So glad you did this. 👏 Does 2 way talk work through HKSV too? Supposedly it was absent in their previous HomeKit enabled camera. Even though you thought the sound quality was a con doing it from the Eufy app, I hope it’s still an option through HKSV. 🙏

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

You can hear through the camera, but you can’t talk through the speaker using Apple Home…unfortunately.

[@blakewillard7922]

@@GeorgeLangabeer thank you! Hopefully the new Aqara outdoor camera will have HKSV talk enabled. I can’t wait to see that one in action. The Eufy cameras are still on my radar though. Having local storage is very important and as much as I love my EVE outdoor camera, I don’t think anymore of those are the answer moving forward due to no storage options. I appreciate your reply!

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

@blakewillard7922 Yeah, I’m very much looking forward to trying The G5.

[@olibusta10]

Compare to the Reolink ultra new security camera is the Eufy pro s3 better?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

They are both great cameras & neck in neck.. So it really depends on the ecosystem you already have.

[@brandonw1604]

Good to see the dropped frames are still there in HomeKit.

[@rweisbein1]

Nice review. I agree 4k needs to come to Apple Home, but it's not as bad as it seems: 1080p = 2k

[@rayburns9822]

How did the batteries do, did they charge enough ?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

I’ve had zero issues with the batteries. The solar panels keep them charged just fine.

[@GaryV-p3h]

Can't wait fir the 8k version to come out & to would love to have AI face recognition to unlock my door as I approach the door.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

That would be a very cool feature.

[@RiverMountainPhoto]

Does it offer RTSP and if so can you record permanently or will it only wake up when it detects something

[@brianswails7276]

Does Eufy still limit the amount of cameras in HomeKit?

[@pierreseguin7773]

Hi, where would you place the base station if you want one of the cameras in the front and one in the back? Thanks

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

As centrally located as possible (between the two cameras).

[@FidsGaming]

Does it work with the Google Home app?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yes. It works with Google, Alexa and Apple Home.

[@AmanSingh-us7bc]

Hello, I recently purchased the Eufy cam 3 with Homebase 3. Will I also get the support for homekit or its only for S3 PRO? Thanks

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

It’s only for the S3 Pro

[@apuz13]

I have the eufy 2c pro cameras and they are absolutely horrible. Are these better. BTW I use Apple Secure Video

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

It depends on what part you’re asking is better? If you’re talking about the HomeKit secure video part, it’s all pretty much the same.

[@sho164]

Nice review. Because of you, we're switching to Eufy cameras for our small business. Are there any cameras or AI features that transcribe the audio instead of pulling and listening to the video (similar to MS Teams or Zoom). Thanks!

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Thanks! Nice! None that I know of.

[@HCraigF]

Am I correct in that the homebase connects to the cameras through its own proprietary system and that since the homebase is directly connected to your router, you're not using any wifi bandwidth to view your cameras?

[@chaseknoflicek8648]

How did you get the cameras onto HomeKit? I added the homebase but cameras aren’t showing?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Is it the HomeBase 3?

[@chaseknoflicek8648]

@ yes it is, I ordered from eufy site and got the S3 Pro - 4 cam kit. The outside of the box shows works with HomeKit logo. When I go to the HomeKit setup in eufy app it shows only the homebase, none of the cameras attached to it?

[@catherinehancock6280]

@@chaseknoflicek8648 I’m having exact same issue.

[@riptheripper9060]

If your power goes out (or is turned off), does the home base have a back up battery capability?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

No, it does not.

[@theflyerpr40d]

Once you add it to HomeKit do you also lose the AI detection? I ask cause the indoor cam says the AI don’t work while in HomeKit.

[@islandsnow]

What they should have done was making it matter compatible not HomeKit compatible though it is appreciated So there’s 2 cameras in this bundle but they only give you one external solar panel?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

It doesn’t need to be MATTER compatible if it’s already compatible with every smart platform. They throw in the solar panel in case you’re installing one of your cameras where there’s no direct sunlight. If you’re installing both cameras where there’s no direct sunlight, you still have the battery option.

[@kingkiril]

Can you record 4k video to homebase station and 1080p to hksv same time?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

No, you cannot. If you use HKSV, it’s 1080 in the Eufy app as well.

[@kingkiril]

@@GeorgeLangabeer Thank you. It would have been great but it’s ok. Maybe iOS 19 will update hksv.

[@MarkPawzun]

Recent,y bought the S380 with 4 cameras. I notice you said to not go crazy with how far from the Home Base you mount your cameras. Since I am limited where I can place my home base is there any recommendation you have. Is it the Wi-Fi that causes the issue with camera distance or something else. I really want this to work.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

The homebase needs to be as centrally located as it can be, or you could potentially have issues.

[@puttlitt1]

I’m wondering if you are planing to review eufy E330. Is it a worthy alternative to home owners on a budget?

[@stealthemail3829]

Watch the The Den of Tools video about Eufy. They are stealing all information from your system.

[@carlosdanielsolisestrada1760]

Does that mean that Homebase 3 is already compatible with Homekit? or does it only work with the s3 pro? Or could I connect the 2c for example?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Only the S3 Pro.

[@garyshepard6757]

George, did i see that there's no SD card for local video in case the base has lost power?

[@JoeWavy]

Are these cameras recording 24/7 & do you prefer these over the Google Nest cameras?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

They have what’s called “24/ Snapshot”. Hard to explain in a KZbin Comment, but here is the explanation from Eufy, “Customize your settings to efficiently monitor daily activities with periodic snapshots taken throughout the day. This allows you to quickly review the day's events without significant battery drain, enabling effective 24/7 surveillance.” Yes, I definitely prefer these over Google Nest.

[@Martin-Techno-Gadget-Guy]

@@GeorgeLangabeer I have heard that if you give them wired power they will do 24/7 but Eufy has not activated that feature as of yet. Fingers crossed they do.

[@ALEZANDAR]

Did they fixed the peeling of the build in solar panel from the previous s3330 model!?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

I haven’t had it long enough to tell you either way.

[@slik]

Would the s 330 work with home Kit also or it will not work with S330 only the pro I purchased the s330 by mistake

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Only the Pro

[@slik]

@@GeorgeLangabeer sad face

[@georgerocks8133]

Though apple homekit secure video is only 1080p, I believe eufy only records 4k locally to the homebase. If I am not mistaken, Eufy ALSO only records 1080p to its own cloud. When I first purchased Eufy cameras, I thought 4k would also be uploaded to its cloud service, but it’s kind of buried on the website that it is only 1080p. Really bummer because I honestly thought it was a great alternative to apple homekit secure video. Can you confirm if this is still the case?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yes, 1080p recording with the Cloud and 4k recording (with a compatible camera) using the HomeBase. Not really a need for the cloud though, considering all the features for the HomeBase. So that doesn’t bother me in the slightest. HKSV doesn’t give you an option. At least Eufy does.

[@TheEnd-vn9rb]

I’m guessing it just cranks ISO for the max vision

[@satyajeetsingh6818]

What is the detection coverage area for this? I have installed the Eufy S3, and it only detects someone if they are within about 1 meter below it.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Eufy says it’s up to 40 feet

[@2779Ducky]

Does it do 24/7 recording like the E330??

[@woketaco]

All the battery/solar powered ones do not do 24/7 recording unfortunately, even with external power.

[@Martin-Techno-Gadget-Guy]

@@woketaco Eufy has indicated that there is a USB port and you can give it power 24/7 and that it will eventually support 24/7 recording. I hope that is true.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

They have what’s called “24/ Snapshot”. Hard to explain in a KZbin Comment, but here is the explanation from Eufy, “Customize your settings to efficiently monitor daily activities with periodic snapshots taken throughout the day. This allows you to quickly review the day's events without significant battery drain, enabling effective 24/7 surveillance.”

[@2779Ducky]

@GeorgeLangabeer thanks George, I have the E330's and they are awesome, no complaints here !!!

[@punjabii420]

Would this open the door for a doorbell being compatible with Apple HomeKit. And being able to record that 24/7 as well

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

I don’t know, but that would be nice.

[@johng9435]

Discount code not working at Eufy?!

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yeah, sorry about that. That was an introductory discount code.

[@spectre1010]

My area is seeing burglaries and other thefts where the camera is "destroyed" by the perp. What happens to Eufy when the perp either destroys the camera or hits the reset button on the camera? Is the stored video preserved for use by the law enforcement or it it "non-available" due to the encryption feature??

[@Whitepinoy]

First thing is camera shouldn't be reachable plus this camera has a alarm if tampered with

[@johnhsconiers3308]

You would think someone would Mount it high enough using a ladder so it can't be reached and not low enough that a toddler can get it

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

That’s the nice thing about the solar panel and not needing to charge a battery or access the camera. Just place the camera out of reach.

[@phuckinggraphicdripdotcom]

I am still waiting on the software to update (hopefully) to make any of the eufy cams (old/new) to work on geofencing with ease. Not having to tap screens to change the functions of the camera. I.E. when i am home but inside just notify me of motion alerts, when I am outside of my home recognize me and avoid alerts. when i am am away, record and notify me..

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

My geofencing has been working flawlessly (for a few months now).

[@phuckinggraphicdripdotcom]

@@GeorgeLangabeer i have the S220 indoor cameras works great on geofencing, But the S40, and the S220 outdoor Solo cams with the solar charge i cannot seem to set up on geo fencing... but i can switch them between set preset up scenes.. I have the Video Doorbell dual camera and the S330 home base.. i even asked EUFY if S33 homebase was going to be compatible with the S22 cameras and provide geofencing to them. i was told yes but the geo fencing would come later.. through software of the base.. if there is a way to set them on geo fencing i have yet to find it

[@DomBezKredytu2030]

Yes yes yes yes yes

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

👏🏻🙌🏻

[@manuelstoeckl1980]

What about recording with Apple Home. When it records in Apple Home, does it also record on the Homebase or only in Apple Home?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

It also records on the homebase.

[@manuelstoeckl1980]

@@GeorgeLangabeer thank you ☺️

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

You’re welcome

[@gordonkim779]

Can more than one person watch/see the video in Apple Home?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yes

[@edittakes6971]

Does this mean that all eufy cameras using homebase 3 are now Homekit compatible?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Unfortunately not.

[@philiptaft]

Is there any camera that has these fab specs and max colour night vision but includes varifocal lens? Please let me know if there is

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Not from Eufy (yet). But Reolink has one with their ColorX Color night vision (very similar). I just did a review on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWaUlWSuqdWLgs0si=41HPg0f6cIX-MyLA

[@od8437]

Are these DIY friendly ?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yes. That’s what they are made for.

[@steigw]

Eufy could bypass Apple's HomeKit 1080p limit and bring 4K to macOS and iPadOS with their own native app. They should NOT only offer their app on iOS. That would solve the problem for my situation.

[@sladesurfer]

Only sucks about using Homekit with eufy is, all the camera drips down to 1080p ..if you wanna record or view in 2k or 4k. You have to delete Homekit

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yep, just as I said in the video. Apple needs to make some updates to HKSV.

[@Domski777]

Is it true that these cameras can only record at 15fps?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yes. “Up to 15 fps”.

[@JeroenHouben-dy4rd]

So I installed a mANTBox 15s outside to be able to have good wifi for my camera's.. These looked like a good option. But I guess not. I have a large area to cover. It is covered by the 15s. And now I am not able to connect them to it ?:(

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

With these cameras, it’s more about how close is your homebase?

[@JeroenHouben-dy4rd]

@@GeorgeLangabeer I have 6 cameras. Some is 30m away. There is my home wifi that is good. But this box cant handle this distance... So the q is, can I just connect it to the home WIFI?

[@chipster9422]

Can these cameras wifi be blocked/disabled by wifi blockers that are being used by some thieves? If so, is there any way to prevent this from happening?

[@NiranjanNanda]

There’s no way this can be enabled/enforced within camera…the only solution is to use wired cameras.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Indeed the solution to this is getting a wired NVR system, but please understand the instances of thieves using “jammers” is very rare. Possible, but rare. Most news sources that talk about these jammers are clickbait sources….blown out of proportion.

[@Martin-Techno-Gadget-Guy]

With the EUFY app working so well why is Apple Home-kit so important? Maybe if you have cams from multiple companies but I only have EUFY.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Because when you’re in the Apple ecosystem, it allows you to get camera alerts on your HomePods and your Apple TVs. It also allows you to view all your cameras on your Apple TV. A lot of people, including myself, really like that. You can’t do any of that with the Eufy app.

[@Martin-Techno-Gadget-Guy]

@@GeorgeLangabeer Thanks for the reply, that is a pretty cool feature. I still have some NEST cams and I love how I can see them all at once in real-time from my computer browser. I rarely have the TV on during the day but I''m glued to my computer.

[@manuelstoeckl1980]

And don’t forget when you have an AppleWatch and you are not at home, you can see the livestream and see who is on the front door, for example 😊

[@endgame4293]

Daylight setting has bad ghosting.

[@mavenaz1975]

Ok.. so the question, their other HKSV cameras were pathetic and had limited detection rage and cut off the clips early and detected late. Any serious improvements on that front?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

That’s not a Eufy think, that’s a HKSV thing. No changes on that front, for any HKSV camera.

[@mavenaz1975]

@@GeorgeLangabeer Thanks George! Like you, I applaud anything new on the HKSV end. I had to end up dumping all my HKSV cameras due to poor quality (1080p and poor selection choices). It’s a shame as everything else is tied into HK nicely around the house. While I know it’s not your favorite selection, I put up Unifi/Ubiquiti cams while I wait it out. Glad to see you are in good health!

[@almasumalinog6009]

Is this work if u go out of the country

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yes. You can see your cameras from anywhere in the world as long as you have a WiFi or cellular connection on your device.

[@almasumalinog6009]

Is this work for iPhone 15primax

[@almasumalinog6009]

Sorry 5G iPhone 15 pro max works for that

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Yes

[@wojtekm1797]

Price 🤯

[@parkerlarsen5858]

Once they have an updated doorbell cam for HomeKit along with these cameras, I’m switching away from Aqara

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Let’s hope that happens.

[@ScarthyUK]

Why? The Aqara hardware is better

[@parkerlarsen5858]

@@ScarthyUK have had a Eufy doorbell and currently have Aqara, much prefer Eufy hardware and software

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

But Aqara has never had an outdoor camera….until now. So a lot of it hinges on that camera for me. If they knock my socks off with that outdoor camera, then maybe I can switch to all Aqara. And wheels are already in motion for me to try that camera as soon as possible.

[@parkerlarsen5858]

@@GeorgeLangabeer Very true. Current have Eve outdoor, Aqara doorbell and indoor.

[@ScarthyUK]

No 2 way talk in home even though it’s full duplex in native app is a deal breaker

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

I’m really happy that Eufy made this move to get back in the Apple home game. But seriously, until Apple makes some improvements to HSV who cares about their native two way audio. I’m only using my cameras in Apple Home App for the HomePod alerts and Apple TV alerts. Otherwise, the Eufy app all the way.

[@akui88]

i have the s3 for a few years now, the battery life has been terrible, the detection range isn't ideal and misses people walking towards/away from the cameras. i just put them in my back/side yards with little traffic for notification purposes when i am away from home. if i point it toward a sidewalk/street, the battery will be completely drained within a few weeks. i LOVE the resolution and clarity of these camera and fast notifications with very low cooldown, i wouldn't have these as the only cameras though, i am still using 1st gen nest cams with NEST aware subscription for 24/7 coverage. when i have the time/money, i will wire in a POE system from unifi and consilidate most of these nest (4)/eufy cams (6)... I will try the EufyCam s3 PRO, heard it has better detection and range of detection. i have 3 s3 cameras just to cover my back porch...

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

A good Wired NVR POE system is always the way to go.

[@crodriguezm89]

I heard this Company has lack of security compromising its costumer’s recordings that anyone can accesss to it? Is that true?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

There were some privacy concerns for a brief period, but that was two years ago. They have responded accordingly & fixed those issues some time ago.

[@crodriguezm89]

@@GeorgeLangabeer perfect thank you!!!

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

You’re welcome.

[@timdoehler3043]

I have the s380, and there is no section for HomeKit or Apple home under general settings. Homebase is "up to date". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Do you have this camera?

[@ecarrale]

@@GeorgeLangabeer So how do you add the S3 Pro and the s380 to Apple home (yes I have both set up)??

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Is your eufy app updated on the App Store or Google Play Store?

[@ecarrale]

@@GeorgeLangabeer Yes, updated on the App Store. Using a Iphone 15 Pro Max

[@ecarrale]

I tried these steps: To add an Eufy S3 Pro and S380 (HomeBase) to Apple Home, open the Home app on your iPhone, tap the "+" button to add an accessory, then scan the QR code found on the HomeBase unit; you'll need to ensure your HomeBase is connected to your network and follow the on-screen instructions to complete the setup process for both the camera (S3 Pro) and the HomeBase (S380). Apple Home Kit still will not add the S380 / S3 Pro.

[@jamesoosterbaan556]

They are nice but way to expensive

[@Sah-dd1zh]

$549? Geesh

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

That’s $150 for the HomeBase & $200 per camera. All in line with the competition. Especially considering the specs.

[@ittybittyfds1]

Seems to me if your cameras are mounted under a Soffit then these solar panels are useless??? Also isnt EUFY storing all the video data in China or is that fake news?

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

That’s why they give you the extra solar panel…in case you mount it under a soffit. No, they are not storing your data in China. They had some privacy issues, but that was 2 years ago, they’ve made the adjustments, responded accordingly & now privacy is on lockdown.

[@patrickk8706]

Once again apple falling behind with 1080 quality.

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

It needs to change & it needs to change now.

[@makojuicedaniel9307]

Never get an apple or google service for your home. NEVER!!

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Tell us how you really feel…

[@blueflame0003]

4k takes too much space and signal

[@GeorgeLangabeer]

Depends on the situation. 4K does just fine for me.

[@DDDarkz]

Sounds like it is time to finally ditch Apple. I'm glad I left the cult when Jobs left.