Simon Jordan believes nobody could have done much better than Rangnick during his time at Man Utd

[@dontynan2256]

I wouldn't say that Austria is a 24/7 full on job??? If he works 6days a month at United, he'll still be working a lot harder than Rashford😊

[@itsmeprasad1987]

Shots fired…

[@pizzagateisreal]

Nice :)

[@Chronicles_Of_WA]

Hahahaha I love this

[@suwisinyangwe3367]

🤣🤣🤣

[@theboomletgroup8436]

Yep. 💯

[@clivealanendersby9457]

Rangnick is a genius.....He has exposed every single weak link at OT fearlessly.... His demeanor is so cool he puts ice to shame...

[@hbb7528]

Oh wait for you are saying it wasn't Ole's fault?

[@Rocky0Road]

ralf was utter cluless way out of his depth

[@goonerOZZ]

It doesn't need a genius to do that. Anyone with a simple knowledge of football knows that United is run poorly as a football club. The problem is, what is the plan? There's seemed to be no plan other than hire Ten Haag and hope for the best.

[@reddevil5297]

Exactly this! These Muppets can't understand that he looks like a failure because he hasn't buttered up these group of Rats and pampered them to a pointless top 4 finish. He's exposed every aspect of this inept football club in just 6 months. Finally we can start moving forward.

[@richardjones8699]

Yes, he's got them playing truly dreadfully so everyone can see just how useless they truly are 🤦

[@manzahmad4134]

ONCE AGAIN SIMON SPEAKS TOTAL SENSE. THANK YOU

[@vxrdrummer]

The one thing I like about Ralph is he has rocked the boat and is the first person to truly say what we all know, and that the club is a mess. If he can stay on and advise, then I am happy.

[@abrahambiz2353]

Jose said it, but we all didn't want to listen and we called him toxic

[@nadeemamode]

I think Ralf was the most constructive about it than van gaal and mourinho who had too much clout to say it as diplomatically

[@lookingfortim]

Yeah, Mourinho tried to but he was not interested in being diplomatic. Rangnick has a bit more charm. Definitely Pogba got Mourinho the sack.

[@vxrdrummer]

@@abrahambiz2353 it's just the way he does his business with Jose. It comes across as all about him. I don't think anyone has been as direct as Ralf. He was sat there knowing they wouldn't sack him before season end, so he may as well tell it like it is.

[@liamr194]

Ole covered up the problems, Ralf exposed them. Keown, ironically, is a bluffer

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

LOL. Ole had 3 years and many transfer windows. This is Ole's team. A wreck. Rangnick has had 6 months as an interim with no authority and no transfers. He's tried to instil a work ethic but it's an impossible job.

[@robertmccabe2073]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 how come that ETH is doing better with the same players an are in the title race?

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

The same players? He's spent 200mil+ already lol. Casemiro, Martinez, Antony. They aren't in a title race. They're where they were under Ole.

[@robertmccabe2073]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 he brought in 5 players so yes the rest are the same players as last season

[@Zeppelin180]

2:15 He gave up on trying to play the high press style months ago, Martin...

[@notfirstyourlast]

"He didn't tow the company line"

[@idahellblau8513]

Jim doesn't seem to understand Rangnick has strengths that lay outside of managing a bunch of bluffers for six months. He is a director of football essentially. Utd fans would love to see him given an even bigger role behind the scenes. What he did with this mob for six months is irrelevant, if anything his first-hand knowledge of the squad would be invaluable when building a new team with Ten Haag. Sadly it seems his role will be minimal.

[@SgtFlopperz]

He clearly can build clubs it’s wether he can help rebuild united but 6 months isn’t doing that with no recruiting. I agree think lots of unified fans be willing to give it a chance if it is aligned with what ten hag wants

[@hulk8384]

💯

[@speedy3702]

Yeah, Ralf's big weakness is his lack of charisma and men management skills. So it's clear now that he was not the most appropriate person to motivate and unify a dysfunctional dressing room of prima donnas who don't like each other. But Manchester United needs a rebuild of the entire team and that's exactly what Rangnick is good at.

[@garymardle2120]

Jim doesn’t understand much he’s an idiot.

[@morpheus793]

I don't get where's this idea that rangnick is this maestro for building a club or being a director of football comes from I mean where is his legacy???

[@jaya8002]

You can tell kweon hasn’t watched United Radgnick gave up on the high press so long ago we’ve been playing the same 4231 ole did for ages

[@EDaly_D54]

Martin 'numpty' Keown. What's he getting paid for, outside of dribbling words?!?

[@asmo2183]

The way he starts jumping from 1 topic to another random topic every time baffles me. He is total buffoon of a football pundit.

[@cjspencer94]

Martin Keown is clueless 😂

[@Yamah12a]

He is a complete tosser

[@hello150]

It seems that every take he has is wrong

[@abhijeetdora6902]

How did he get this job🤦🏻‍♂️ ffs

[@m.p.7075]

You can really tell that Simon feels the same way too.

[@KingKenny.]

He's terrible eh

[@rudo6319]

I am surprised people don't know what a consultant is.A consultant is not a 24/7 job.And also a national team manager is not 24/7 job as well.

[@notlukebenson]

I just don’t agree with the argument that Rangnick being involved is anything but a good thing for United, even at 1-2 days a week. Clearly a football mind, unapologetically honest, level-headed and transparent in his views.

[@malone77]

Exactly what we need and have been needing for 10 years.

[@Chris-pz8eu]

He won’t be listened to at 1-2 days a week

[@markpugh6808]

They ignored him as interim and didn't allow him to get rid of players or sign anyone so why will they listen to him as a consultant

[@Thomas-bq4ed]

This conversation around ragnick being, “good enough,” and “successful.” Is so ridiculous. Man utd didn’t sign him to succeed, everyone said 6 months is not how managing works. All the players are the same players that screwed over the last 3 managers, and this guy walks in and has 6 months to what? Man utd don’t want him permanently, his job is to be able to see what’s now expendable and help the culture of the club. He has not said in an interview one thing I have disagreed with, he has been honest and straight forward about United’s problems, he knows they are there the players are a disgrace and the owners aren’t helping. When the only player with the right attitude is a 37 year old and maybe some of the kids you are screwed.

[@dmckyle]

well said

[@richardjones8699]

Yes , he's got them playing truly abysmally so everyone can see just how poor they really are. Indeed, he's excelled at that. He has the worst win percentage record of any Utd manager for over 50 years - just 38%. There's me naively believing his brief was also to try and win games and improve things (and get top 4)!!

[@jumbeaux1]

Simon is right in saying Roy Keane (or any ex players) having no idea of the current culture at the club and how broken they are. I also agree that no one would have done a better job. He tried changing the team but was bogged down by their limited ability to develop. As an interim, he also wasn't backed during January. But I think too much is being made of his future consultant role. He'll be like a scout, negotiator to bring in the right players to the club. Six days a month is about the right amount of time for a part-time consultant.

[@misterpractical]

I think he will be a mentor to Darren Fletcher (the current Technical Director) so Fletcher can learn from him.

[@jamiegormer1010]

His consultancy role started when he joined man utd , He was there to give his opinion of who would be worth keeping ,,To test the squad on who is willing and capable of playing under a high press style manager

[@nadeemamode]

Another great comment. Well said. All the lessons he learned so far will apply to ten hag

[@robertkrstevski1425]

Spot on

[@joshuakithyoma9575]

When did Man United press in any game ? Crystal Palace ?😆 If that's the case all those players are getting binned except Lindelof who pressed hard that game

[@nadeemamode]

@@joshuakithyoma9575 The man united executives looked at klopp and tuchel and realised that if the rangnick method would work with them. The problem is that klopp and tuchel developed their own style over time and really rangnick's style is either not up to date or the players are not up to scratch to accomplish what he's looking for. You really can't predict that until you take the job and see what works. Ten Hag has his own style and will be resolute in clearing out whoever doesn't fit in it. Maguire should be looking at newcastle.

[@edguerrero9992]

@@nadeemamode 🤣😂

[@tris421]

Jim White can really be unsufferable sometimes.

[@asmo2183]

Good thing, Simon is there to put him in his place most of the time.

[@edgarj4815]

Keown makes me me laugh. Who hired fletcher in position. Who wasn’t experienced, people the structure bad and stupid. It is the cheapest in class and put them on the owners is still the problem.

[@asmo2183]

Keown is a clueless pundit, who keeps jumping from 1 random topic to another without addressing the arguments the opposition is bringing forth. I wish we had smarter ex players on Talksport. You don't learn anything from listening to current crop of ex-players with Simon and Jim.

[@gino4tune]

To say Rangnick is a failure is short sighted, which is how United got into this mess. The work that Rangnick has done and is doing now could help us get back on track much faster. If not for Ralf, Ten Haag would have come in and have to face these issues, but now Rangnick can "consult" him on the issue he has found. You think Ten Haag is going to ignore Ralf's evaluation?

[@redboyjan]

Yeah it's a mess top to bottom

[@sando99]

Completely agree. One could certainly argue that Solskjaer was a failure as he had 3 years and still left the club in it’s current mess. How on Earth was Rangnick supposed to come in a achieve changes with the existing squad? Don’t forget, he also lost Greenwood.

[@redboyjan]

@@sando99 they're all failures

[@Rocky0Road]

ralf was out of his dept

[@yaxiyaali2094]

Ole covered up the problems, Ralf exposed them. He is a director of football essentially. Utd fans would love to see him given an even bigger role behind the scenes, I also agree that no one would have done a better job. they only started making these changes because it was a direction from Ralf Rangnick and all the fans know this. Think about it, Murtough has been in the role for a year but has been behind the scenes for almost 10 years but all of a sudden when Ralf comes change is happening

[@tris421]

Ole protected the problems Ralf has exposed them.

[@ideozublake8036]

exactly. don’t know why people can’t understand this.

[@KarenTookTheKids364]

Ole bought 450M worth of problems in 3 years

[@malone77]

Ralfs done a GREAT job, exposed this bunch of players for what they are. It seems like finally we actually realise this team is full of dead wood.

[@navrayat8002]

Regrettably I agree. 4 managers has now exposed a fundamental problem. Player power is far too strong and an element of mediocrity on the pitch (save for the Ronaldo) and a priority of brand exposure. I’m not inclined to agree owners are the problems as they have spent a lot but it’s a club structure that does not have the ‘best in class’ in terms of senior management and trainers. An absolute clearance is needed and quite honestly a humbling of some of the players too. It will take time but then again their will be a small majority of fans who won’t be patient. I’m a Liverpool fan but Man U is the poster club for football so it has to be elite in everything that it does from players to how the club is run. For me it’s when not if they back get to fergie times but allow them time to rid of filth. Rant over

[@markpugh6808]

I don't see how they will get back even if Ten Hag gets a team that can at least play football and compete you and City would still need to drop in quality for them to be able to even challenge for let alone win a title I don't see that happening as long as Klopp and Pep are still around

[@TheJayMarsh]

The owners have spent absolutely nothing. Not their own money, they've been spending the clubs money, and I hate that fans of other clubs don't know that. and think that The Glazers aren't the issue. Remember they were one of the driving forces behind the European Super League. Secondly, you said it yourself, the clubs structure isn't poor, and hit has been for 10 years. Who employs those people? Who has sat there for 10 years and accepted incompetent people in massive positions at the football club? The Glazers.

[@navrayat8002]

@@TheJayMarsh well they are the owners so de facto that is their money. That is true but the esl is a by product of overplaying for crap players worldwide. I mean you paid a higher salary for Alexis Sanchez then Ronaldo. I’m not a united fan so I’m not crappijg on what your saying at all im just an observer but you’ll get there.

[@markpugh6808]

@@TheJayMarsh Adams American friend explained on his channel Adam Matic TV how American franchise businessmen operate and how they employ people with the same values as them he explained in detail how they work and why United are finished as long as they are there and how it will never change he also explained how FSG are different at Liverpool they employ people and let them do the job whereas the Glazers and Levy and other Americans interfere in transfers recruitment and only care about commercial revenue and not the performances on the pitch

[@Integ82]

If player power is a problem, how do we explain chelsea success in recent years?

[@alanwright4628]

Martin Keown is a lightweight. He gets frustrated because Simon owns him in every debate.

[@fredturpentine6651]

Don't know why he keeps coming back for more 🤣🤣🤣

[@garymardle2120]

Woke wet lettuce.

[@KingKenny.]

Its embarrassing

[@winterrising8738]

@@fredturpentine6651 hes a sadist, he gets off being in pain

[@fredturpentine6651]

@@winterrising8738 Can be the only reason 🤣

[@Shadowespeon17]

Rangnick probably has more common footballing sense than the entire board combined. If he gets pushed out the door, United will be back at square one. If Ten Hag doesn't over-achieve in his second season, he won't get the backing in his third and he'll probably be ousted by the end of his third when they back-pedal again. Being on the board, or at least working behind the scenes in some way, shape or form, is completely different to being in the dugout. Just look at the job he's done while working upstairs at his previous clubs.

[@lefthandlee]

bringing rangnick in was the best thing that's happend to this club in 9 years, things are changing behind the scenes

[@synergyhowacquisition3821]

I totally agree with Simon here!

[@PorkChopExpress86]

2 words that scare the life out of me as a united fan. These 2 words sum up clubs culture, the way they operate and potentially where we could be headed. They are...DARREN FLETCHER. How ,do you go from earning your badges coaching kids ,to technical director and defacto assistant manager in well under 12 months?? That this guy is at the club and on a seemingly meteoric rise is insane. How do you impress somebody so much that you do this? It's like going from answering phones for apple, to becoming Tim cooks right hand man in a year

[@kieranjames514]

To say Utd have a squad of creative players is absolutely laughable. They struggle to string three passes together most of the time 😂

[@malone77]

They line up outside the box of the opposition and pass it back and forward because they haven't a clue how to actually create 🤣🤣🤣

[@joshuakithyoma9575]

That's why every team outplays them 😆 their midfielders pass the ball to opponents feet 99% of the time , except Matic who always finds a United player yet he is deemed old and out of pace😆

[@thrilla72]

@@joshuakithyoma9575 Matic sadly does not have pace but he is our best midfielder.

[@Ghost-tx4ft]

@@joshuakithyoma9575 and then you have tottenham who lost home and away to this team. so does that mean Tottenham is worse?

[@jaffawaffa22]

Quite frankly Ralf’s brutal honesty about Man Utd and their structural inadequacies is a breath of fresh air

[@lfcspectre4335]

Simon is totally right about no one would have done better job than Ralf Rangnick, unless they were in the Jürgen Klopp or Pep Guardiola level. It's definitely bit strange that Ralf Rangnick is getting this Austria head coach job, while working behind the scenes at Man Utd with Erik Ten Hag in next 2 years.

[@2HatHudders]

I still think Conte would have made improvements.

[@pbcomps]

Huh? Even Sam allardyce would have done a better job than this Ragnick fella

[@frankdux5693]

Howe defo cud

[@5bagsofpopcorn]

@@2HatHudders Conte is not all he is hyped up to be. Look at his Champions League record, its an embarassing one.

[@2HatHudders]

@@5bagsofpopcorn Conte would have got the ducks in order. That dressing room requires strong man management. It's not always about looking at records...

[@Treeesmith]

Ralf has been a breath of fresh air, love the bloke Honest stocktake of squad and institution and not just replastering landfill. The fans could see it and he's just said it

[@KarenTookTheKids364]

The stream of 'resignations' at United recently is directly related to Ralf going in there. He has exposed a lot at that club and every United fan with a functional brain is thankful for that. I think it's likely Pochettino would have been hired had Ralf not gone in.

[@simongurung7715]

Simon: …..he knows about Man Utd 15years ago 🤣

[@odirilegoitseonemathe6138]

Very much the truth

[@olliegatley2171]

Very true ex United players living in the past with a view of what united should be that used to be. Part of the whole problem 😂

[@danbadd]

Rangnick's main job was to assess the structure of the club from top to bottom and the parts within, including players, then to consult around reformation. The fact he got to do that as manager gave him intimate knowledge of those processes. I'm looking forward to seeing the results of this appointment.

[@Spygoal]

All of a sudden scouts are gone and matt judge gone.. and Ragnik is here… Ragnik one of the best things that has happend to united .. yes not good coach with these players but who would. Ragnik has built clubs thats his specialty

[@TwoBeatsApart]

I’ve always thought that Ralph was bought in to assess every aspect of the team and players, not to be a manager. The man is a football scientist and bringing in psychologists etc is most likely all part of working out who stays, who goes and how we rebuild after Woodward.

[@TwoBeatsApart]

Martin is talking like he has even the slightest clue what’s going on behind the scenes at Man Utd. As usual Simon is the only one talking any sense. Ralph almost invented the type of football that Ten Hag plays so of course his assessment of who can perform that way of playing, will be important.

[@LoftusBlake]

Keown said this team loves to play football. How can someone be so clueless?

[@Leafy53]

Typical explayer now a pundit and barely watches them and fires out the usual media narrative

[@JacobeOfficial]

Ralph has come in and been very clear... Open and honest. The players do not and have not put anywhere near their best efforts forward. Rangnick is a brilliant coach and footballing mind. You can tell this simply by listening to one interview of his. The illness is very much not on him 🤣

[@Chris-pz8eu]

He’s right. Ralf should be technical director with Paul Mitchell not Fletcher. Ralf is literally one of the worlds best at it and Fletcher is getting pushed too high too soon. Saying Ralf ain’t a good echnical director bc of his term as manager is a lazy take

[@asmo2183]

We are talking about Jim White here. He is the master of uneducated tabloid takes.

[@heathermckinnon1865]

The players have failed Rangnick, the club ad themselves.

[@stevekent3991]

When it was announced that Ralf would be the interim manager for the rest of the season and then provide consultancy during the next two seasons I thought that was pretty clear. Nothing wrong with communication.

[@danieldarks3721]

The biggest problem for Rangnick being the manager of Manchester United was the word at the beginning.....Interim. The players did not take him seriously . Felt his tactics were beneath them and I hope they pay for it by being shipped out by Ten Haag. No-one with the title of Interim or temporary is going to bring wholesale change and (I do not know but is my best guess ) but I do not think he was brought in for that but maybe to start the revolution and bring in the changes that United clearly need(ed). This season is a write off and maybe next season too. We need to get behind (not the players) the team because is that not our job as fans? I was there in the good times we need to be there for the not so good. He has helped us see what no one was looking at....how bad these players are (attitude or skill level). When redoing up a house you have to take it back to brick before you can build it back up again and that is what we have started. Or so I am led to believe. But no matter what happens let us hope it translates to better football to watch , Win Lose or Draw!!! Just a suggestion??

[@Ilebuda]

Human psyche is strange, isn't it? You get paid massive amount of money to do the job that millions of others would love and still you don't get motivated to do your best. At least in individual sports you cannot really hide like in team sports. However, I wonder whether there is also generational issue. How come Ronaldo can motivate himself to perform on the the level he does when he can clearly sees that his younger team mates are not doing the same? It is not the money for sure.

[@danieldarks3721]

@@Ilebuda Agree but wary of brushing the whole of the younger generation with the same brush. I do think there isa a little of too much too soon as they think they have made it when they get to Manchester United instead of when they win with Manchester united. It is the desire to win not just have everyone see your youtube clips and think you are great.

[@Ilebuda]

@@danieldarks3721 You are absolutely right, not everybody from "younger generation" have attitude issues. PS. At the same time it is interesting in general how the "resilience" of young people seems to have been changing e.g. in Finland which has had always mandatory military service. It seems that every year there are more and more young men who cannot either physically or mentally (or "ethically") do their military service successfully. Of course this has nothing to do with Manchester United :-)

[@Akira9212]

I don't always agree with Simon but he has a point, why can't we have players be accountable for their own performance? With the money they're getting paid, take example Maguire, How can anyone other than himself be accountable for his poor performance on the pitch?

[@mandieandpat]

You would be held accountable at your job like everyone one of us

[@bensaleem9702]

Jordan is very good... He is not arrogant he is just right...

[@ste4392]

I think Rangnick has done his job, highlighted the deadwood, helped appoint a promising coach and changes are being made behind the scenes

[@pjr7661]

When Bruno is walking out with the captains armband on, you know your squad is lacking. His PR team built him up to something he is not. The guy was in the papers daily being labelled a hero for his first 12 months at united and everyone bought the hype

[@jamiiiedee3196]

How was it buying when he was physically producing on the pitch or were our eyes being deceived. Stop trying to look smart and change history now that his performances have dropped. Is it so unbelievable that a player can be amazing for a time and crap for another?

[@pjr7661]

@@jamiiiedee3196 Not sure how I show you my historical comments here, but I have been saying this for quite a while, pretty much since he joined. When any player rolls up and all of a sudden he is the media's darling you have to look into it.. his stats are padded with pens and a 2 yard pass for an assist for a 30 yard goal. The 'goal involvement' stats are also ridiculous

[@Chronicles_Of_WA]

But… he was? Carried us?

[@pjr7661]

@@Chronicles_Of_WA Que? En Inglés?

[@samgambino9695]

To be honest Bruno’s form only dropped and his goals stopped when Ronaldo joined. I honestly think they can’t both play in the same team. It just doesn’t work. Bruno was the main man before Ronaldo joined.

[@themakaveli6731]

Great work guys, luving the content👌

[@ianbanks3016]

I think everyone's perplexed about what exactly Fletcher does at Man Utd.

[@MrShaunsk]

It was in Rangnick's contract that he would stay on, in an advisory role.

[@Ysecon1d]

Simon always accurate on he's views

[@chd1694]

Pep wouldn’t put himself in that situation and he definitely wouldn’t buy half those players. Pepe always goes into a club that’ll give him complete control.

[@Mrwoss57]

I just love how rational Simon always is. Everything he says about united it totally spot on. It gets very frustrating when someone says otherwise. I can assure you now, the state of Manchester United is not the result of Ralf rangnick lol. Anyone who thinks otherwise should choose a new sport. Keown suggested we are a team with players that like to play football. We’ve played counter attacking footballing for years with absolutely no game plan lol. Ole didn’t have a tactical bone in his body. Clueless.

[@theamateurguitarist6187]

Rangnick is very very good at recruitment. Over half the players Klopp bought in the first few seasons were players Rangnick had previously identified and bought for that style of football. He is great at building a club and a strategy around a philosophy of play. His job at Utd was to come on and try to motivate a patchwork of players, who were already on their way down. I don’t believe anyone bought in as a temporary manager could have done any better. These players have done it so many times and to so many managers, the fans know who is to blame. Some of these players wouldn’t make it in to Norwich with their attitudes, and they are going to find out the hard way soon.

[@chop8536]

Martin what you talking about man.

[@gregoryanwar9711]

Simon Jordan was spot on here. The other two guys are speaking non sense. They don't know the situation of United.

[@jamesfoley4832]

Why. Whenever I look at Martin Keown, do I picture him swinging on a tyre?? 😂😂

[@thefontofallgarbage8480]

I knew a guy who kept knackering his cars, after the first couple you think ooh unlucky m8. after the fourth you say to him "I don't think it's the cars pal" At least we've found now it's the players and that can start to be dealt with.

[@malone77]

👌👌👌👌

[@miniDwarfB0y]

We'll only know if Rangick is successful in two-three years time, this isn't hard to grasp.

[@ay613]

Exactly too many people are to quick to judge.

[@jurandle333]

Exactly. Only judging him on his 6 month management of players who don’t even try for him is ridiculous

[@abdouliejabbi8361]

Some of these English Pundits need to understand what the word (Consultant Role mean in Football Club) You dont need to be physically present in order to perform his duties. @Simon you are spot on. Within this five and the current climate in man utd no coach can succeed in that condition and thats why Ten Hag didnt lay down his condition to the club before he accept the job

[@adam84657]

One of the brilliant jobs Ralf has done is to recommend Ten Hag to the board. I bet if Ralf was not a united manager and Carrick was the interim, I bet that united would go for Poch.

[@alexoshike3367]

Pochetino is better than ten hag. Going for someone with no experience with coaching teams in top 5 leagues and hasn't even coach any English teams

[@waterboys3001]

It remains to be seen how much authority Ten Hag will be given. The press has claimed he had to fight for a decent salary, a say on recruitment, and whether he could bring in McLaren. Fletcher and the bloke Moyes brought from Everton, seem to have the power behind the scenes, and they want to hold onto it. They interviewed Ten Hag and are offering contracts to players. The club needs a proper sporting director.

[@michaelmelro6641]

I think Jim is the only one who is confused about this situation. Ralf, as a consultant was never going to move to Manchester and work at Old Trafford every day. He was only coming in a few days a month while keeping a close eye on the club from afar. The Austrian job can be managed easily at the same time because they only meet up as a team 3-4 times a year.

[@ideozublake8036]

common sense ain’t really common it seems

[@ibraheemabrar4677]

Exactly, it's not rocket science. Jim saying people are more confused now, makes you think about the intelligence of the average person according to Jim

[@redboyjan]

Love the glazers. Even the dead one. "they ain't gunna listen and they ain't gunna go" hahahaha amazing

[@puttajay]

He said the same thing about newcastle and was absolutely right as no one was able to pull that team together Oh wait howe took them from 19th to 9th currently 🤔 Simon speaks with confidence and eloquently so people agree with him hes not often that right

[@danieldarks3721]

Simon is very good at framing his discussion points so that with the given set of parameters he is always correct. What you will find is that he does not deal in opinion he deals in the facts that are presented. If you listen to when Jim tries to say he said something that turned out to be wrong he reframes the argument to suit the narrative at the time. He is good at debating subjects and has good knowledge and insights. He actually doesn't claim that things will go the way he dictates he just states that given the current evidence there is no basis for believing things will either get better or worse. The problem is that Martin Keown offers himself up as easy cannon fodder each week by taking such ludicrous stances that no one can agree with. This idea that Martin shows a good balance is problematic because the biggest statement he ever makes is I think or in my opinion or if things are going seriously pear shaped in the debate (they usually are) he goes to I just think... and after those statements Jim usually interrupts and puts him out of his misery so they can move on to the next round of breaks. It is for these reasons that Simon comes across as reasonable and astute and Martin comes across as unreasonable and idiotic. When Martin does try to fight fire with fire and bring in some statistics to bolster his argument he is shot down because he is either using them incorrectly or implying insight from them that the facts do not bear out. Add to this his myopic view of the facts opposed to Simon's bigger picture (a statement he makes often on talksport) view and you get why Martin loses so many of these "battles". But that is just "my opinion" :)

[@Moe226]

Rangnick is the surgeon doing the open heart surgery on United. That was what he was brought in for.

[@trevg9450]

Fans protestation is the only tool fans have to let their plight be known and attempt to change whatever they are protesting against. There is nothing wrong with fans protesting as long as it's non violent. The problem is finding the most effective way of protesting. Jordan is correct in that the protesting done by United fans the last few months will have no effect. Even though they protested during the Chelsea game, they still showed up. Late, but they showed. Things of that nature are symbolic and will be good to chat about over the diner table. As for Rangnick, if he is judged on whether he got United to the Champion's League, then yes he has failed. Given that he is highly regarded by other Managers like Tuchel and Klopp one would think his failure was not due to lack of a tactical grasp of the game but down to the players at his disposal. In an Interim role, in the middle of the season there was no way he would have the ability to get a rise out of the squad unless the squad had enough discipline and pride to raise their level. The conclusion I would submit is that this squad bears the lion's share of responsibility for the failure of this season. They have had 2 managers, one who was constantly criticized for lack of tactical awareness and another who came with a reputation of a excellent tactician. The performances of the players save for two (Ronaldo and De Gea) have, it can be argued, regress. That's a player problem. Maguire, Pogba, Fernandes and Rashford have been abhorrent and should be held responsible for the current standing of the team. The ownership is an easy way to vent frustration. If Eric Ten Hag comes in an in 2-3 years United are challenging for the EPL and firmly ensconced in the CL and ownership remains the same, I can almost guarantee, the protest will be gone and the complaints will be almost non existent. Fans want winners, that's all they care about.

[@richardchurchill8081]

Wow, I agree with you Simon 100% 👏

[@Spygoal]

Exactly! Any manager would’ve struggled

[@LeeroyMotcher-Sanga]

Paul Mitchel is being geared up as the replacement of Fletcher. And Ragnick has actually played a very large role in getting Ten Hag and the Revolution of getting rid of dysfunctional Staff Members per Fabrizio Romano.

[@zenica12]

Fletcher has no business being at utd.

[@cordes85]

that wink to martin, to calm him dowm when Simon mugged him off, was the cement that held something back, Martin would have reacted.

[@jeffreyodaro7250]

Can't struggle mr man,simply because he knows what to do coming in and the right pieces on the field

[@joeh4303]

Simon Jordan speaking facts

[@captainsausage1767]

Well said simon these players checkout along time ago

[@JackJackJack123]

Agreed 1000%. It’s not like these coaches are incompetent. They have players who clearly can’t be bothered to work hard.

[@WallofNFL]

Can’t believe Simon is on a radio show with his conversational skills. Always interrupts, never listens and just shouts louder.

[@whizzy97]

U cannot slave for two masters u end up hating one and loving the other

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

What do you expect from a smooth operating spin guru that hasn't achieved much in 40 years

[@Travis015]

Well said Simon

[@tsepom455]

Jim is hallucinating 🤣🤣🤣

[@chd1694]

Simon is spot on, again.

[@patrickjamessimpson7268]

martin dresses like that old pensioner, shuffling down the street stopping everyone he passes 'do you remember me, im an invincible' yet the community sees him as a wally

[@metallicbigtoe3949]

That made me lol mate 😂 👍

[@JG7470]

Awesome😀

[@abdouliejabbi8361]

Simon you are spot on

[@welshhibby]

Manchester United is basically BANTER UNITED at this stage.

[@justanobserver9132]

Spot on Mr. Jordan.

[@ajcgolf69]

He’s right about Fletcher though, does anyone know what his role is? His job title is technical director but he’s down on the touch line giving instructions to players like he’s a coach or assistant manager? Makes no sense

[@kieranmccaldon5905]

Roy Keane didn't say he NEEDS a clean break...he was asked what he thought about him possibly leaving for Austria job...and he said maybe that would be for the best and a clean break might not be a bad thing...then straight after the host said well actually he might do both right after

[@Quint1975]

Everyone entitled to their opinion but M Keown is way off with the United situation. United need a complete infrastructure change from the bottom straight up. Rangnick is clearly identifying the issues and when the new manager comes in I'm sure he'll start making or enforcing change.

[@adrianmorris9743]

Simon is just way smarter. Talks total sense.

[@kirkelliott493]

Course pep would struggle with the man utd team.... because he needs a strong team straight away and a cheque book to back it up.... he would never go into a struggling team

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

R² is just a smooth operator, you gotta give 'credit' to the man, eventhough he's pulling the wool over everyone's eyes 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@WTF-m6b]

Simon Jordan talks a lot of sense. Martin Keown has no idea and shouldn’t be asked for his opinion. For an ex professional footballer, his contribution lacked an intelligent assessment of the problem and the solution

[@suse8270]

Keon clueless Ragnick the problem haha 😄

[@syp72]

Obviously Ralf is going to say he hasn't spoken with Ten Hag. ETH is contracted to Ajax till the send of the season. It's about being professional and respectful to Arsenal

[@Himi5480]

True

[@keithw9943]

Simon is the only one that understands behind the scenes Keown is talking on a footballers point of view Matt judge resigning , just shows behind the scenes structure is starting to come to light on the forefront of change Huge summer change at Man Utd

[@bserg24]

I haven't been a fan of Simon Jordan but he speaks alot of sense in this debate.

[@Saomn89]

Martin trying to hardsell the current bunch of players as being under utilised is just cringeworthy. Has the man watched a single game of Manchester united this season? This team is just terrible.

[@MAC_ABC]

Simon on point & the guy on right should tell us what he’s smoking. THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE ANY STRENGTHS. If you can’t do the most basic thing in football... run! And run towards the ball, take it from your opponent & keep it. If these overpaid slobs can’t even run... what is the point. There are like 5 players in the entire squad that are worth keeping. Maybe 10 if you’re being generous & want to give them another season under ETH. But rest aren’t even worthy of any PL team let alone MU. Rangnik did the best he could. Also him speaking his mind & not holding back has been great to see because it clearly unsettles these scammers in United dressing room. No room to hide now.

[@redroobarb4562]

Conte and poch would have been some short term thinking and would have lead United back to square one in three years. United have done a lot recently with Woodward, head recruitment and now Judge leaving, a lot is changing and could be on the right path, especially if Paul Mitchell comes in.

[@danieldarks3721]

Simon is very good at framing his discussion points so that with the given set of parameters he is always correct. What you will find is that he does not deal in opinion he deals in the facts that are presented. If you listen to when Jim tries to say he said something that turned out to be wrong he reframes the argument to suit the narrative at the time. He is good at debating subjects and has good knowledge and insights. He actually doesn't claim that things will go the way he dictates he just states that given the current evidence there is no basis for believing things will either get better or worse. The problem is that Martin Keown offers himself up as easy cannon fodder each week by taking such ludicrous stances that no one can agree with. This idea that Martin shows a good balance is problematic because the biggest statement he ever makes is I think or in my opinion or if things are going seriously pear shaped in the debate (they usually are) he goes to I just think... and after those statements Jim usually interrupts and puts him out of his misery so they can move on to the next round of breaks. It is for these reasons that Simon comes across as reasonable and astute and Martin comes across as unreasonable and idiotic. When Martin does try to fight fire with fire and bring in some statistics to bolster his argument he is shot down because he is either using them incorrectly or implying insight from them that the facts do not bear out. Add to this his myopic view of the facts opposed to Simon's bigger picture (a statement he makes often on talksport) view and you get why Martin loses so many of these "battles". But that is just "my opinion" :)

[@johnhawkinshawkins1284]

Simon, as much I admire your incredible depth of knowledge, try and listen to the other presenters and understand their point of view. You are not always cleary correct about everything!

[@pizzagateisreal]

Wrong

[@problemstube7266]

Actually he is when its comes to arguing with eclair and keown

[@Dan-mm1yl]

but he is always right though🤷‍♂️

[@elijahvdm1867]

But he definitely is right about this.

[@totalprecisioncarpenter5922]

look at the Simon fan boys haha Jordan is 1 of the biggest hypocrites on talk sport all he does is bang on about how he was a chairman how long ago? He was so wrong on Rangnick then does fascinating mental gymnastics, whataboutery and cuts people off just so he can make sure only his view is heard

[@leifterjehaugen8873]

Simon, you can be controversial but what comes out of your mouth very often is the crisp trough 👍🏻👍🏻