Sisters Deception & Manipulation EXPOSED After Her Wedding r/Relationships AITA Reddit Stories

[@MarkNarrations]

Well hello and a happy new year to you all, I wish you the very best year ahead! Thank you for your love and support towards the channel, you're amazing!

[@katiesmith2031]

Happy new year Mark

[@Mrs_Ella]

Happy new year, Mark. I wish you all the best!

[@gypsygem9395]

Happy New year to you too Mark! I hope you had a great night last night. All the best for 2022!

[@katiesmith2031]

@@gypsygem9395 happy new gypsy gem hope you and your family are having a wonderful day

[@sazanafadoju7350]

happy new year mark

[@reshawshid]

Holy shit, Dave didn't dodge a bullet, he dodged the entire war.

[@fufufuaru]

too bad they got married before he discovered all the lies and manipulation

[@scheneli000]

Gotta save this one in my memory bank. Too good!

[@jmjedi923]

He dodged the draft!

[@barneytaylor9338]

A whole war. Dude, he ducked Armageddon and all four of the Horsemen.

[@Zminator1986]

​@@fufufuaru Hopefully the marriage was still new enough that he got an annulment and no mess of a divorce.

[@mpmansell]

Ruby is also likely one of her oldest victims and must now be reviewing her whole life and wondering just where anne had been screwing things up for her, lying to her and lying about her. It might be highly therapeutic for her to basically go nuclear and expose as much as she can find. Sucks for Anne, but Ruby is one of her victims

[@WolvenDragonZ]

Can you imagine someone who clearly cares for down on their luck people like that realizing that any interaction that even tangentially involved Anne was skewed and she probably ended up being a bully or and aid to such ever since they were children? That teacher she was rude to because she was mean to her friend, that girl she called out for stealing her boyfriend, the boy who she told someone else not to get involved with because he had cheated on her friend, the new friend she recommended to her friend's office that got distant before being fired for incompetence and the apology she gave for recommending them in the first place. The absolute guilt of any action she ever took related to her. So yikes

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

Yep ruby is. Ruby is beautiful so fit the image but this woman isn’t anyone’s friend or family, everyone is just a tool to manipulate. She probably even cut family members out doing this too, those who made her image wrong

[@lucaleone4331]

I'm surprised Ruby made it as long as she did considering all the way Anne "prunes" her life

[@TiaEphesians429]

I think she is bipolar, which can cause psychosis. She is definitely having delusions if she is starting to think these "perfect hobbies and traits" are actually her real self. Bipolar has two behavioral symptoms. Manic and depressive. Mania can last any where from a few hours to a couple years. But it doesn't always include psychosis. Usually sleep deprivation is an indicator of the onset of psychosis for bipolar disorder. I've seen someone go manic and ride that high through a whole random college degree. 🤷‍♀️ This girls brain has got to be going a mile a minute and the energy and effort she is bursting through her half cocked plans and manipulations of everyone around her, is through the roof! 😮 it's almost at an inhuman level, for it to not be mania. It's gotta be...

[@alyonaf1054]

​@@TiaEphesians429 she definitely has some personality disoder at the very least. But I doubt if it's bipolar she has. It wasn't just "phases", she did it consistently for years and years. And her victims never knew what hit them. That's how calculated and coldheaded she's been. I doubt a manic person would be able to never slip and never get exposed for years like that. And she would have succeded this time, too. If not for her groom being a no-bs person. And good for him. His war with addictuon definitely played a part in it, as far as I know, they are taught to be as truthfull as possible to everyone, understandably, because addicts tend to develop deceiving strategies for their own gain, so they are encouraged to drop every unhealthy tactic and strategy they've learnt during their addiction and not leave any grey zones where they would be tempted to stray because nobody would know. So no wonder he smelled bs at once and refused to ignore red flags it raised. But he also is definitely a very sensible man on his own. Honestly, most men who fall victims to women like that is like her Dad. And women, too, of course. But there is definitely a bias towards opposite sex in these cases, I dunno why. Like, her mum, for one, was suspicious at once. And her sister was hesitant which side to take. But her Dad was in his daughter's corner no matter what. Untill he was forced to accept his child's lies backed up by multiple people and confirmed by her herself. Btw, I think if she 'd chosen to continue lying, the Dad would have chosen her side despite all the evidence.

[@pambarab5506]

Holy heck. Anne ended up being the person you hope never comes into your life, Master manipulator, building her "perfect world" for her narcisistic self. No empathy towards her victims. Her family will probably still love her, but will never trust her again. I think they will always question everything she says and does. And they should.

[@Davimez]

Yeah I remember this story. This girl is dangerous. I remember the last post with how the sister manipulated everyone and made people fight each other. This girl is a psychopath. If she needs help it would be in a mental hospital

[@zerofate9669]

Before I thought she was just a bridezilla and a jealous friend towards ruby, but making up rumors, rallying people to her side to seem like the good girl, removing people from social groups, etc, I feel like 1% bad for Anne but on the other hand, trying to create this world of hers for her image and narcissist ways is just too much. She literally took this too far than it has to go. Ok she lied about the family accepting Dave, lied to the bridesmaids about ruby character, got ppl fired or quit their jobs, and removed people who was probably in the group longer than she was. She doesn't need just therapy, she needs to be constantly watched and monitored. She destroyed so many trusts in people; her husband, her family, her friends, and guests. There's absolutely no coming back from this.

[@wikiwoof9590]

My sister became like this and it was kind of a trash took itself out situation. She went LC because I was cool with my mom who was a single mom and yea could’ve been better but she’s my mom and I chose forgiveness and my sister didn’t. And then she got toxic to me and blocked me because i jokingly called her a poo and said jk, love you. Literally a poo. Like a 5 year old and she got real life offended and blocked me, I blocked her back and I did cry, and im a big dude, cried in an airport over it but when my head cleared I realized a massive weight was off my shoulders. Idk if I will ever reach out and that’s sad.

[@shadowblade19]

No kidding🤔 That be the first thing will come to mind when her family have their eyes on her.

[@WolvenDragonZ]

Not even sparing herself either, Holy crap. I have never heard of anyone purposely sabatoging themselves because to do well didn't match with the image they had concocted. Maybe hiding good grades from friends in middle school but purposely doing bad? Especially for such a narcissistic, they usually try to project an "I'm perfect in every way" thing

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

It’s crazy how Anne ruined her whole wedding, lied to her entire family, painted her best friend as a promiscuous drunk, made claims that her husband’s friends were creeps, and made her sister and best friend into villains, and eventually destroyed her potential marriage, … all of that, JUST so that she wouldn’t have to tell anyone that Dave USED to be addicted to drugs, but is now completely clean. Anne seems to be genuinely unwell and needs some help.

[@nowsmile790]

I don’t even know if the type of person that she is, can even be helped to be honest she could never really be trusted again. After all she did I really do wonder how many lives she’s messed with, and how many peoples careers she ruined.

[@zashgekido5616]

@@nowsmile790 This is one of those cases where getting help is really just for HER benefit, because there's no way in hell she's building back the scorched earth remains that were once her relationships

[@nowsmile790]

@@zashgekido5616 I agree it’s only really to her benefit but even if she seeks help, I don’t even know if she would be in the right mindset to listen to be helped.

[@iamalbertwesker2]

Let's not forget she's been doing that shit long before this

[@Purplehain]

After all those years of manipulations and lies she propably is already way to far detached from herself to even know whats right or wrong. So I doubt anybody is capable of helping her at this point.

[@amelianekomimi1936]

The fact she was more upset about the image of being a divorcee than losing her beloved is remarkable. I doubt she even loves him - he was just "Whats right" with her pathetic little bitchy world.

[@TheTrueKarin]

Really? A man with a past of using? Like normal people would see Dave other then her but she…. I honestly suspect her feelings for him were real (or that that comes near that) and there were so strong she choose to do all this (Fake letters, the whole wedding manipulation) but later on got lost in her own manipulation…. Either way I hope she gets help

[@ComaLies225]

So I've read this story before but didnt know how bad it was until Mark fished out OPs comments. So Anne is not only a pathological liar but she's toxic as hell. Forget therapy, throw the whole person away.

[@illiwd]

I feel like I need the story before, but I swear it was from the ex BIL's perspective. This view is way different.

[@AndreNDP]

Toxic isn't the word I'd use, I think deeply psychotic is more appropriate. Toxic is a person in control of their behavior, I'm pretty well convinced she's beyond that. This is a person who needs to be in an institution yesterday.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

It's a very good work of fiction. Doesn't sound like any personality disorder I recognize. I can't picture anyone legitimately pulling that spending their lives as a whole other erson without serious psychotic breaks during high school, college or first jobs. Well before a wedding.

[@BrognusBelgen]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles Unlike fiction, reality doesn't have to make sense. Florida Man exists, and makes zero sense. You get stuff that leads to someone throwing a live alligator through a Wendy's Drive-Thru.

[@elyeliza8287]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles oh you have no idea.... No idea...

[@Tammohawk1]

The amount of energy it took Ann to do all of this is just exhausting to me. I feel for Dave. But the good news is, he can get an annulment because of all the lies. Everyone is going to need a very good therapist after this. Geeze Louise and Cheese and Rice.

[@wikiwoof9590]

🥩 🧛‍♂️ 😮

[@craigbarnave7857]

This is not energy this her daddy to day to keep the image going at all cost. For Ann the fake is the real

[@ArcanineEspeon]

Cheesus Crust!

[@lindaomoefe4156]

Even I might need some therapy from reading all the lies. Just think of all the mental gymnastics she had to do to pull this through before it fell apart.

[@n7hughesgaming223]

Dave didn’t just dodge a bullet, he dodged a god damn tactical nuke!

[@Norinia]

If OP wants to help Dave a bit, it might help him if they and their parents wrote a REAL acceptance letter, and an apology about the shitshow he walked into, wishing him peace in whatever route he chose but that they do accept him. That would probably help him to move on from the incident and make a clear decision about what to do.

[@MissCaraMint]

I’m hoping they can bond over their mutual discovery of the sister being what she is. I mean him, OP, Ruby, and probably lots of others are probably hurting. Why not form a “Surviving Anne Support Group”? But yeah. Writing a real acceptance letter, listing all the things the love and admire about him, and how proud they are of his journey, and how much they wished that he really could have been part of their family, and how they will respect his wishes if he feels being close to them is to painful because of Anne, but that he can always turn to them for support. I think that might go a way to helping a little bit.

[@DoritoBot9000]

Very true! It’s not really mentioned in the updates what the position of the parents is towards Dave’s past, is it.

[@TsukiKageTora]

It’s funny how obsessed with her image she was and still chose to date a man with a past that she was ashamed about. How about not dating someone you’re ashamed of? Find someone that you’d like and aren’t ashamed with. Sounds like the type of person to get a tiny tea cup sized dog only because it’s fur matches their purse color.

[@KyrieChii]

I think her being 'ashamed' was the most hurtful aspect of this for Dave. He was proud of his progress (as he should be), but ended up marrying a woman who lied throughout their entire relationship. I hope he goes on to find the partner he deserves, who will be just as proud of what he's accomplished.

[@TungstenWulf]

Projection could also be playing a large part in her relationship with Dave. -my armchair psychology

[@arianebolt1575]

She could have crafted a wonderful image out of his recovery story.

[@mossynovels]

Because she doesn't see people for who they are- she sees she caricatures she can turn them into. Like she can cut and paste different pieces of a person to fit what she thinks is "right". I wouldn't be surprised if she could actually convince herself that her fiancés past was exactly what she wanted it to be.

[@Zminator1986]

Why would anyone want to date THAT? I think the world would be better off if people like her don't marry and breed.

[@EveryDayALittleDeath]

Honestly, hearing that Anne has been doing this since secondary school scared me a little. I was a compulsive liar in middle school, the lies would be out of my mouth before I even thought about it, and I mostle told lies I wanted to be true, like that I'd gotten a lead at theatre camp over the summer. I felt bad every time, and eventually I made the effort to stop, by saying "No, I'm sorry, that's not true, I don't know why I said that." It was humiliating but it did the trick. But I wonder if I would have been like Anne if I hadn't stopped, lying about bigger things and manipulating people to keep them up.

[@sbh2888]

I don’t think so. You clearly felt remorse, that shows a conscience, and a sense of morality that Anne is completely missing.

[@GrumpyOldFart2]

Weird. Sounds like Anne might have OCPD (which is NOT the same as OCD).

[@stadot1427]

Little habits do become character traits. Good on you for having the courage to come clean. I've always been a very honest person as long as I can remember, but there was a time a few years ago that something similar happened and I weirdly started saying things I wanted to be true. Admitting to myself that I was saying lies was the hardest part. Correcting myself in front of others was just a matter of course

[@EveryDayALittleDeath]

@@stadot1427 I wasn't raised to be particularly honest in general, but I was raised to believe that it's wrong to lie to those you care for. So for me, I needed the social embarrassment of admitting the lies to my friends right after they happened.

[@daphneebrisson7449]

​@snakebte1 I have OCPD, and I never felt compelled to lie like Anne. Please don't try to diagnose people as it can stigmatize mental health disorder. But for sure she must have a mental health problem to feel the need to compulsively lie like this.

[@HackiePuffs]

Pathological liars are becoming some of my least favorite people because of Anne and if anyone remembers Mary from that one story. OP don’t forgive her she doesn’t deserve it.

[@MiraTheWarlock]

Just hearing the story about Mary gave me permanent trust issues

[@Cendy777]

Can you give link or description to the Mary story? Now I'm intrigued

[@blueangels111]

Is that the one where op was best friends and helped "mary" a lot, but always got side eyed by work friends and she couldn't figure out why?

[@Davtwan]

But she must be perfect! *Draws sociological plans on the wall with blood.* pErFeCt~

[@MiraTheWarlock]

@@Cendy777 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnTFYWSsfLCphMk

[@1978honore]

I read this on Reddit. I started crying when it got to the part about Dave, acceptance and the cherished letter because OP didn’t mention Dave’s family anywhere on any post/update. They might’ve gone NC because of the addiction. Literally out of nowhere torrent of tears. Dave. Poor Dave. Damn someone is chopping onions again.

[@DiscoTimelordASD]

Poor Dave. That broke my heart too.😭

[@charityquill4965]

Dude was ready to accept a new family after he thought that they accepted him it seems, since he cared about that letter so much. Poor Dave 😭

[@flare0114]

Damn... Poor Dave

[@malayshamorgan3918]

And in the end when the family did find out about his past addiction they still accepted him with open arms.

[@MissCaraMint]

Simple solution. Kick out Anne and keep Dave. Well at least keep Dave.

[@annaorbanes5070]

The last update was confusing, to say the least. Sounds like Anne was a fake, a fraud, a facade. That she did malicious things to protect that image. That was a strange and confusing story. I feel sorry for that poor groom. He wanted to be upfront and honest in his married life. Quite a story.

[@allenwalkeranime7968]

This... obsession with her image. I can't think of any other way to describe it. Manipulation to such a degree, the pathological lying, and even self destructive behavior for what? Something is definitely wrong with this girl. This is something straight out of a drama. To think she would even make someone's life worse because *they* don't have the correct image of *her* in their minds. I almost feel sorry for this woman. To be trapped in her head and insecurities. If only she didn't hurt so many people along the way. Now her web of lies have unfurled and tangled her in it.

[@amelianekomimi1936]

i wonder what personality disorder this is ? what would have a "perfect world / perfect self image" ? Makes me wonder if it falls under OCD, like if its not right smth bad will happen?

[@AllyGatorAnimator]

It wouldn't even need to be them having a negative image of them either, just not what she viewed as correct. E.g. she apparently did badly in some subjects in school on purpose, because she believed she should be someone who is bad at them, so there's a chance at least one of those teachers she tormented believed she was better than she was in those subjects or were encouraging her to try harder and she decided they had to go.

[@oldwelshlady6584]

Psychopath!

[@jadedflames2809]

Anne is only sorry and feeling guilty is because she got caught and can't keep up with her lies anymore. If she was sorry, she would of stopped way before any of this Edit after finishing the video: WHAT TJE ACTUAL *F/CK*?!

[@Davtwan]

She sounds like the most extreme perfectionist _ever._ She also sounds like she’s beyond help, so good luck to any therapist that wants to take a crack at her.

[@Davimez]

There is no helping her. She's too far gone. I mean how is she's supposed to get help. When she doesn't even know who she is

[@digit5465]

@@Asmoodeusmilkers maybe it is Macbeth reincarnated

[@jgraaay18]

@@Davtwan That doesn't quite cover it, really. I don't think she sees any of the people around her, not even her family, as real. They're just part of the backdrop, bit players in her story. And if they don't fit with the story she's decided on, they need to be driven out by whatever means necessary. Even if that means getting fellow employees and her high school teachers (!) driven from their jobs. It seems like as far as she's concerned, she's the only real person with real feelings; everybody else is just scenery in her life that either needs to look just-so, or get thrown away without a backward glance. I know AITA likes to overuse the word narcissist, but I think this terrifying creature ticks all the boxes. OP and her parents need to never, ever trust her again. Verify everything. Question everything.

[@MissCaraMint]

@jgraaay18 Idk man. There’s narcissism, and then there is this. What the actual fuck. There is more than just a potential NPD here. Surely. I mean not even with this diagnosis is this. Right?! They can’t be.

[@ScarabD]

So let me get this straight... this man is a recovering drug addict. Perhaps he did bad things, in the past to fuel it, idk, but either way, he is taking responsibility for himself. Perhaps he acted like a bad person, but he's obviously become better. He fought one of the worst demons any human being can fight... and he f*ing WON. And his so called wife, who swore to love him in sickness and in health, has the absolute GALL to be ASHAMED of him for not having some squeaky clean past?! Because SHE lied? Good god.

[@OZARKMOON1960]

How in the world did OP's family not see Anne developing into a raging, controlling psycho over the years? Apparently Ruby honed in on it, and tried to overlook it to be a good friend - but it ended up burning her in the end. Poor Ruby and poor Dave - neither deserved to be honed in on by the crazy lady!

[@MissCaraMint]

Well OP is a younger sibling. She is in that weird idolizing position that younger siblings can have towards the older. Mother might be level headed, but dad never twigged until it had gone pretty damn far. Still Anne was pretty sneaky. Who goes so far as to get worse grades to fit an image after all? It’s not exactly the kind of behavior you would expect. It’s hard to know. The fact that they took action pretty fast to go to family therapy does seem like they don’t just ignore stuff on purpose.

[@Xokoy]

This story is a hell of a ride, and I'm saying right here and now that my comment does contain spoilers. Anne's weird lies and manipulation were pretty shocking, but some part of this feels obsessive...like the whole perfect world thing it just gives me really messed up vibes. And the fact that she is basically willing to gaslight the people around her who she doesn't like implies that she doesn't have any kind of empathy towards people she doesn't like...like, literally none.

[@jesterbrown90]

It sounds like she was even able to gaslight herself. She needs serious help.

[@moimeself1088]

Imagine what she'll do if she has children that aren't "right"... wow.

[@nobinary2296]

@@moimeself1088 Reading that gave me chills down my spine. I really don't want to consider it.

[@groofromtheup5719]

She is literally a psychopath. The feelings and emotions of others meen nothing to her apart from how she can use them. Her sister needs to distance herself from Anne, but stay just enough in her life to warn her future victims.

[@ScarabD]

It's so bizarre because... what exactly are Anne's qualifiers for "right" anyway? What kind of person was she trying to craft herself into and why? It feels like she was shaping herself into a character from an American sitcom, without realising those people do not actually EXIST outside of fictional media - the stereotypical mean girl or fashion obsessed diva they thought all tween girls wanted to be in the nineties. I dunno much about different mental disorders (besides the ones I have to deal with), but I thought NPD was when people JUST manipulated others to fit their worldview, not necessarily that they try to change THEMSELVES (besides doing what they feel they have to in order to get in other peoples graces... I may be wrong here, but that alone doesn't feel quite right to explain Anne's behaviour)? I mean, yeah Anne... is certainly doing that? But it doesn't feel like the "root cause" to me, if that makes sense? it feels more like some kind of insanely powerful obsessive compulsion, impacted by a lack of empathy and learned behaviors that she's been crafting all her life. But where did THAT start?

[@memyselfandi7782]

WOW. THIS WAS A WHOLE TV SHOW WITH TWISTS AND TURNS. I remember this story, but I'm here for it!

[@sannahayes832]

Me too! I just love Marks voice! ❤

[@jennabeth6851]

Same. This was one of the best aita from 2020. Like completely crazy.

[@fr0stb1ght34]

I said it myself after listening to him read OPs words, this shit is worthy of a soap opera. I'm talking day time Emmy calibur awards type soaps.

[@Fiery_Latina_Goatchan_GF_681]

Uh not really you just sound easily confused

[@Fiery_Latina_Goatchan_GF_681]

@@fr0stb1ght34 meh not rrally

[@heyyou6798]

Holy beck balls. Anne is going to need massive amounts of therapy. Must be some huge childhood trauma she's buried and covered with all these lies.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

Might not be trauma. Things like these can come up without trauma. For example, some people develop a obsessive compulsion to lie for a simple need to fit in as a kid, this then continues to adulthood.

[@nobinary2296]

@@mk_gamíng0609 And some are just born with it. I have a cousin who is. It's so bad that they'll have a mental breakdown if their version of the world is questioned or someone keeps pushing for the truth. They're in a treatment facility now and getting the help they need.

[@Tammohawk1]

Doubtful. I come from a family that has several pathologically liars in it.

[@oldwelshlady6584]

Nope, not sure therapy can fix this, in fact, therapy will only teach her how to be better at manipulating people. You can never trust this girl again!

[@DinoTamer-22]

It’s sad how some people have this fixation on a fictional reality to the point that they believe their own lies and self sabotage simply to fit that reality. Anna had a panic attack from the text from Dave because her reality is literally crumbling. He’s not suppose to divorce her in her mind, she’s not suppose to be divorced that’s not real, but it is real and her mind is shattered. What was real turned out not to be real. She can’t identify reality anymore. She’ll probably need to go to a hospital or something, she needs help, she may badly hurt herself over this.

[@HeffboomKonijn]

I worry about Dave and his sobriety. he did everything right, got his life back in order and worked hard to maintain it. Then along comes someone who revels in psychological torture, only for Dave to question his own reality, and what/who he can trust in… If I were on Dave’s shoes I more than likely would detach from reality and relapse. I hope this never happens but a special place in hell exist for people like Anne. Those who would destroy lives just for the sake of their own image and warped mind Im hoping the best of luck to Dave

[@silverstarmoon5802]

Wow, Anne just ruined everything and broke the trust from everyone. I wouldn't blame Dave want to divorce her and ruby stop being friends with Anne. After hearing Anne's past, OMG this girl... why do I feel scare by this girl that I've never met but thankfully I won't meet her. Anne have HUGE issues and the most unhealthy obsession of this "images" of hers.

[@Love2Banime]

Oh my goodness, i remember this story! Anne kept building lies on top of more lies. It was chaotic until the truth finally came out. She immediately got disowned by the family, her ex left/divorced her, and friends (including Ruby) cut her off. This is an example of how far a lie can go until a huge sh*t storm/karma catches up. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@KyrieChii]

There was another update that Mark didn't include? I didn't see the part where her family disowned her & Ruby cut her off for good. This one just leaves off implying that Dave is leaving her, her family are forcing her into therapy, & Ruby is taking some space to calm down before they talk about things. (Not that I'd blame Ruby one BIT for noping the fuck out of that so-called friendship, who needs 'friends' like that?).

[@michamocha]

Anne is a _dangerous_ person and im so glad to hear that everything went down the way it did. As f-ed up as that sound, I did expose her to everyone she knows and now everyone can release themselves the roles she forced them in and she can get help. It's scary hearing just how specific she was with her 'ideal world' and how she manage to work behind the scenes for so long.

[@indianspartan76]

That sister is Littlefinger levels of manipulative. Only without any of the carefulness. Edit: Still feeling bad for the sister, OP? Why? Ugh, poor Dave

[@Masenken]

Tbf littlefinger had the benefit of no internet or cellphones lol

[@FuckAssName]

Bruh this is some ace attorney level of mystery here. The amount of twists and turns is crazy

[@damien678]

you aren't wrong... and why would ruby's fashion and anne's character fit so well into an AA game?!! 😭

[@FuckAssName]

@@damien678 while on the subject; favorite AA game?(choose wisely)

[@eliability]

If the dress didn’t really stand out I’m thinking Anne might be jealous or something of her. It’s problematic but I don’t think there’s enough info. I’ll update after the updates Update: Ohhh that’s a little odd. Are Dave and Ruby friends? I think I can see why Anne is upset but I dont think she’s being reasonable. Update 2: W H A Update 3: I have no words. Anne is irrational and honestly not a great person. She lied to Dave and everyone else over extremely big things. This is something I’d personally never forgive her for. Potentially ruining relationships

[@neerajray3986]

final update: she the devil

[@sbh2888]

@@neerajray3986 👿 😂

[@jaymel4691]

This story reminds me of the other huge one with the roommate who was asking aita about calling her friend an 'inspiration' at a dinner with friends, and the friend's entire life had been built on lies. Yikes!

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Yep, heard that one too!

[@ajzephyros7454]

That's the story about 'Mary' right?

[@Mewse1203]

Oh this story is an oldie, but a goodie. Sister is CRAZY... Edit: oh! I'd never heard that final update with the grades and the teachers. Sister sounds manipulative as hell and Probably has a personality disorder. Yikes

[@JootjeJ]

What on earth happened to Ann in the past to make her so troubled and broken?

[@shebakoby]

obsession with perfection, which indicates a mental illness or any of the cluster-B personality disorders. Sometimes it can be triggered by substance abuse.

[@sbh2888]

Now that’s a fascinating question…no morals, no empathy, mask after mask after mask.

[@roelthas]

Wow, I hope they let all the affected people know about what the sister has done, and not just keep it in the family.

[@Dragonemperess]

Especially the poor teacher that got fired because of her! Yikes!

[@DrawciaGleam02]

That might be a good idea if they want to clear the names of people that anne hurt.

[@mikehenry7056]

I'd be very careful with this - there is at least one, maybe several lawsuits waiting to happen. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but they need to realize the fallout has just started.

[@michami1979]

I know what Dave has gone through. My ex is exactly like Ann and still is to this day. I put up with his bullshit for far too long. He alienated me from my friends and family. Made up lies about people and about me to make people dislike me. He tried to get colleague's fired, and was jealous of anyone's success. The final straw was faking his grandfather's death and recieving a substantial inheritance from him. It was all lies and the worst part was he totally believed it was all real.

[@skye2578]

Maybe it's my autism but I hate "you should side with me because blind loyalty!" type things. If you think someone should side with you during a conflict, back it up. Give them valid reasons why you're right or should be sided with. I get it if it's not comfortable to talk about but no communication means it's your fault if someone is neutral/opposed to you. People can't always make decisions without any knowledge on the situation and it's unreasonable to expect them to.

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

You’re right. It’s ridiculous how people think you should agree with them just because they have a random connection to you. People should give you clear reasons and not just expect blind obedience. Just because I have a boyfriend doesn’t mean I should do everything he commands and vice versa.

[@ghost-husband]

yes!!!! especially the "you have to side with me because fAaAamily". I might just be stubborn but if you want me to just blindly agree with you without explanation then I'll probably do the opposite or just choose no side.

[@projectjupiter5523]

you're absolutely right, if someone loves you and wants the best for you then they should be willing to tell you when you're doing something wrong or messing up and how you can improve. they won't just be a yesman or turn a blind eye while you spin out of control.

[@neil999ish]

She started out with small manipulations, then gradually they got larger that people didn't notice, then it got so complicated the manipulation exploded over the wedding. I read a lot of these on forums and hear in real life. It seems she to me has a narcissistic/borderline personality disorder (layman opinion). Hope this doesn't push Dave into relapse.

[@krazzygranny7032]

"Anne" better hope these stories don't get out to the seriously effected people that she wronged because i can see multiple lawsuits headed her way and to the school/businesses that were effected will probably also be sued and them sue her. she has created a serious cluster duck for herself and her future even if IC although she needs serious psychological help

[@gypsygem9395]

Hey Mark, I've been working in my mum's garden this afternoon and listening to some of your older videos via Bluetooth, trying to follow without reading the words. I think I picked up maybe 70%, which is amazing! I think listening to you for the past almost year has got me used to your voice even though I've generally relied on the written word to be sure I've understood correctly. I'm going to keep doing this and will watch the videos later to confirm. My mum is so happy that I can follow you as much as that 😃 Thank you for all your hard work! Much love 💟

[@MarkNarrations]

Aww thanks so much Gem! Your support is amazing and I can't thank you enough 😊❤

[@katiesmith2031]

That's awesome gypsy

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

💜💜🤗🤗

[@gypsygem9395]

@@katiesmith2031 thank you so much Katie! Happy New year to you too x

[@gypsygem9395]

@@broken_queer_but_fighting8589 thank you Broken! Happy New Year! X

[@barbaral743]

I used to work with someone like Anne. Had little going on in her life so got her jollies by pretending to be friends then turning people against each other, telling person A that person B said something nasty about person A,. Sowed discord where ever she went and eventually every one hated her.

[@yu-gi-ohcasual6294]

Anne just came off as an honest-to-goodness sociopath, the way she wanted to cultivate the IMAGE of her perfect life that she had in her head, rather than trying to actually build a good life. No empathy for her victims, no regret for ruining people's lives and livelihoods, just anger over getting caught and having her house of cards she'd so carefully created and protected knocked over by her own fumble. Heck, she didn't even want to go to therapy because she just KNOWS she isn't in the wrong, and even though she agreed to it, I know Anne won't stay once the therapist will point out even one of her flaws or mistakes. She's just... bad product, in a way. A bad egg. Turned out that way from birth, hid it from everyone else, and will never get better. I don't feel bad for her, though; Anne did this all to herself.

[@WhitneyDahlin]

If you go to OP's account and read all of her comments OP said that her sister said that did all of this because she was trying to make things "right". Like how things SHOULD be in her perfect world. It almost seems like some unusual type of OCD versus sociopathy or psychopathy. It's possible it's narcissism but the strange obsession with everything having to be "right" to the point where she harassed teachers out of their jobs and got other students to harass them because they didn't fit into her view of what SHOULD be really scream some type of unusual OCD to me.

[@angelajaime5155]

Thank you! No one else was mentioning OCD mixed with NPD Doing seemingly arbitrary stuff that can be detremental for yourself and others, to make things "right", is very common OCD behaviour.

[@TheScorpion0081]

Anne reads like a Lifetime Movie villain, except actually frightening competent. OP and her mom seems like good people, so it's sad that Dave had to leave them, but HOLY CRAP did he dodged a bullet on this one.

[@Khiarika1]

Wow...the craziest thing I heard. The thing that really gaves me chills was: "Her image was to not be good in chemistry." It freaked me out because it made no sense. Poor Anne, it must have been hard keeping that whole insane world afloat.

[@RockinTheBassGuitar]

This is so weird. My brother-in-law has a past like this, it would never have occurred to my sister to hide it and it never occurred to us to judge him for it.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I said in my comment, it's a very common story. The sister's reaction though? That's insane

[@Lisapizzza]

Hearing the details of how she made her world 'right' was insane

[@sbh2888]

Which is exactly what Anne appears to be

[@TevanaZelta]

I feel like Anne causing teachers to lose their jobs should be some sort of crime, that is horrible😠

[@maggpiprime954]

This poor man. What a devastating heartbreak. I haven't even heard the last update yet, it's on an ad break. Oh my god. Anne has got some pathology that I'm not even going to try to address, coz I'm just an internet yobbo. I hope everybody gets the help they need.

[@bunnyslippers191]

Yeah, this is pathology far, far above our pay grade. I'm not sure how or if she is capable of changing enough to live an even half way normal life.

[@ginathecookie]

@@bunnyslippers191 i just hope she gets therapy. she may be too far gone but man, does she really need it.. i feel super sorry for her. Not enough to be her friend but everyone here needs counsellig to get through this crap, especially Dave, Rubi and especially her.

[@sbh2888]

@@ginathecookie Anne needs to be institutionalized because any day she may decide to kill someone to “make it right”, or perfect or whatever.

[@crem-crem4070]

I know this sounds wrong but I WISH I could be Anne’s therapist so I could paychoanalyze her. This could make for an amazing case study

[@DiscoTimelordASD]

I know! This is why I watch true crime shows - I want to know the psychology behind everything. A lot of obscure mental illnesses have very little research or studies done or knowledge noted about them. We still don't know how to fix even the most "common" ones.🤷‍♀️

[@nixiethepixie]

She really isn't well, but it also explains her obsession in making everything 'perfect' at the wedding... I really feel for that family.

[@albertgongora6944]

I was really listening to this whole entire story again and I just realized something this is one of those rare moments in life were you just heard the story of somebody losing everything because all they wanted to do was constantly create lies and try to get one person out of the way because they felt that that person would have caused everything to come tumbling down when truly if anybody caused it it was the sister in the story sadly and she could have had everything a husband that loved her a happy life but she had to pull the crap that she pulled just because of Ruby

[@sbh2888]

Not because of Ruby, but because of herself

[@albertgongora6944]

I know I'm sorry I meant to make it sound in my comment that basically she was so upset with getting Ruby out of the way but because she was you know trying so hard to do that but it let her downfall I'm not the best speller due to my dyslexia so I have performed my sentences from time to time with the little microphone app on my phone Kalisto struggle from time to time to be able to spell like a name basically

[@alicewilloughby4318]

Story 1 and Updates - Jesus, all this could have been avoided if Anne had been honest with her family when Dave asked her to! Or let HIM talk to them and be honest! First Anne lies, and then she'd rather run her life-long best friend out of her life than risk having to admit that she lied, and then she wants to run Dave's close friends out of his life too! This woman needs serious help! Later Update - Why would anyone's image require getting a lower grade in Chemistry? Weird.

[@pokekitty1]

some women think they have to pretend to be stupid for men to like them thanks in part to the dumb blond trope in fiction.

[@CodenameTurtle]

Story 3.... Poor Dave. The forged letter being his most prized possession really just broke my heart. And also, poor Ruby - if the sister succeeded, Ruby would have lost all her friends and family! What in the world...

[@Famous_Athlete_Hashimoto]

When OP mentioned that Anne made 2 teachers quit and got 1 fired, I raged hard. Someone needs to bring that info to light. I happen to personally know a former teacher who was falsely accused of... you know what. He had to endure months of investigation while his reputation was tarnished in that community. In the end, he was proven innocent, but he was so traumatized that he never went back to teaching and now works a skilled trade job. He is one of the nicest people you've ever met, and his life was nearly ruined by conniving liars. I firmly believe people should face consequences for false allegations and Anne is definitely one of them

[@VeireDame]

Reading about how Anne thinks honestly makes me feel bad for her. The way it's described makes it sound like she never did anything with malicious intent, but rather that they were all "practical" choices and if someone gets hurt, well, that's life. It's all part of an obsession that controls her *entire existence.* I think she does love Dave, that's why she chose him, but she had to make him "fit." And that meant sacrificing Ruby. Like, I wonder if that hurt her to do? If she felt sad upon the realization that the only way to make the lies work was to get rid of her best friend? There's no indication that she's incapable of feeling those things and she was notably distraught about losing Dave, even when her distress at being a divorcee was equally as bad, and her actions suggest she's making an effort to patch things up with her family and Ruby--although that could all just be a scramble to piece back together as much of that "perfect image" as possible. But it *really* seems like some type of obsessive compulsive disorder that's gone totally unchecked and overrides literally all other wants or needs. I don't know how treatable that sort of thing is, but I really hope the therapy helps, even if only a little. It sounds like a hellish existence.

[@jamestown8398]

Anne is a horrible person. She lied to everyone about everything, even making a gambit to break up decades-long friendships, all in a bid to preserve her own pride and vanity. Image-obsession easily warps people into monsters. I'm glad David is leaving Anne, and I hope he finds another woman who will actually be honest with him about who she is. I hope Ruby ends up leaving Anne too, because the person she *thought* was her friend doesn't exist.

[@MrZuriax]

It must be so surreal to unravel a web of lies so profound. The level of manipulation Anne undertook and the grief that resulted from it would make my head spin as her parent or sibling. I'd examine my own life just to see what impact she had because she alone sent shockwaves through so many lives to fit her vision. Truly terrifying.

[@KaitoKiara]

Anne sounds like sociopath: Little empathy Manipulation Lack of guilt Acting only on her preferences

[@LunaMane]

Dave and Ruby have my sympathy. Addicts don't always have success stories but the ones who recover deserve respect. Also OP is stupidly naive. "We were right but that doesn't mean we didn't behave badly"? That's STILL not good! Dave needs to get more than a divorce. He needs a goddamn annulment. No one should be tethered to a person like Anne even in past tense. And the relevant comments can be broken down to this; Anne is a pathological liar and narcissist. That's it. But at least she was busted for what she did before Dave got stuck with her and had a kid. I have a strong feeling that if he didn't fit her ideal world at some point she would make up lies that he abused their future kid and have him charged. Thankfully it didn't come to that. OP and their family should stay the hell away from Ruby and Dave. They don't deserve to have such unstable nutters tainting their lives. As Charlie Brown once said, good grief.

[@MissCaraMint]

Oh my god. I never even thought of that. You’re right she might be fucked up enough to lie about that since we know she lied about others negatively before. That’s terrifying. Man, can’t the family just kick out Anne and keep Ruby and Dave?

[@ladydartz]

Holly hell, this story is what I think my friendship with my ex bff would have developed if I hadn't gotten away... Jeez, the lies, the manipulation, everything

[@hagamapama]

The really sad part about all this is that it was 100% self inflicted

[@aphelion4616]

This is the most toxic version of 'Keeping Up Appearances' like... EVER... Holy Shit!

[@sylvanaire]

I had a roommate my freshman year of college that told crazy lies. Lies that were easily found out. The last one she told was that she had some kind of terminal cancer and she only had a few months to live. We were roommates: we could tell whether she was sick or not. And she certainly didn’t have cancer. I don’t know what her problem was, but we all knew she was lying.

[@atwistedsky9169]

Holy hells this was a ride and a half. Like, I feel sorry for all the people Anne deceived and destroyed with her lies and behaviours. I especially feel sorry for Dave, who had his whole worldview crushed in a very short space of time through no fault of his own. Anne needs so much therapy and hopefully she gets the help she needs.

[@angelajaime5155]

Anne lies and goes to the extreme to "make things right" and OP said that she feels real emotions about fake stories.... hey, I'm not a psychiatrist but it sounds like a very bad case of OCD, and one of her manias is her image. That last bit about real emotions attached to fake stories reminded me a bit of myself (I have OCD).

[@zoe9190]

I remember this story, the amount of deceipt, lies, manipulation and bullying done by Anne to Ruby let alone the bridemaids friends and family is astounding. I dont believe i could forgive it, and ive been nc with family for other reasons, i just couldnt trust this person after all this, no matter how much healing happens even decades later

[@fayleya3865]

Surely this is the definition of a narcissist? Just wow. That fired teacher will never know that they have grounds to sue.

[@KyrieChii]

Ugh, if I were Ruby I'd nope the fuck out of that so called 'friendship'. There's just absolutely no reason to stay friends with a person like that. Moreover, a person like that doesn't _deserve_ friends. Anne has some _serious_ issues that I doubt she'll be willing to confront in therapy (if they can even get her to _go)._ Who wants to be friends with someone who manipulates everyone, sabotages/destroys other people's lives without a second thought or an ounce of guilt (because for some reason they don't fit into her _neurotic_ idea of 'perfection'), & lies as easily as she breathes? You could never trust her again, always looking over your shoulder wondering if she'd ruin your life, if she's spreading rumors to turn people against you, or trying to break up your relationships, you'd always be walking on eggshells & worrying about what she might be doing to hurt someone else that you just aren't aware of. She's just... a nightmare.

[@TsukiKageTora]

What a real piece of work. Trying to cut out her best friend when she was ashamed of how she helped her current husband with his addiction and was the stepping stones of how she got with her husband. She is ashamed of her husband for his past and lied about telling her family about it to him. She manipulated him to the point of thinking his past was out in the open and the family actually accepted it all. She is evil to make a cover of her entire relationship that doesn’t quite represent the content. Sounds to me like she didn’t love him at all, let alone the best friend she was friends with over 25 years

[@michellegodwin6567]

The fact that she's just as upset about "being someone divorced" as she is about losing Dave shows just how much she obsesses over her image, and how little she thinks of divorcees to boot

[@SamasBananas1]

I'm very hungover right now so I really needed this

[@susankaempfer8427]

So so sad that the entire family accepted Dave’s past but his bride didn’t.

[@Qabim]

I hate how Op keeps avoiding calling her sister a f****** narcissist. Come on girl. Stop dancing around the word. Your sister is a narcissist. She's not just toxic, not just a liar, not just a c***, she's a narcissist

[@jeancarbonneau6966]

Holly shit. What a rollercoaster ride of a story. Basically OPs sister, Anne, was a lying two faced woman who played everyone to suit her benefits. I'm surprised that Ruby didn't drop Anne after highschool because of this. Dave, on the other hand, was lied to by Anne. I don't blame him for wanting to divorce or annul the marriage. He was basically lied to by her and her "love" for him doesn't feel real anymore. Anne played a game that, in the long run, caught up to her and has caused more harm than good. She basically tried make herself as perfect as she could in the eyes of others.

[@saharadsouza]

Dang you posted this right before my nap 😂 I’ll watch it after work

[@MarkNarrations]

Good choice, naps are important and the video will be here later :)

[@susanlosey9511]

Anne is one sick cookie. OP good for you guys in getting her therapy. Also good of you guys considering therapy for the rest of you.

[@loryndabenson2118]

Damn, poor Dave. I hope they were able to get the marriage annulled. And i hope this didn't trigger him to go back to his addiction but it seems like he still has a good support system.

[@maiingan07]

After learning of the wedding deception and when her sister had stated she didn’t think Anne had ever been manipulative before, was when I thought, I wouldn’t be too sure. The plan was way too elaborate for a newbie. This level(s) of manipulation take time, a bit of honing those skills if you will, especially to have fooled her husband, her family and inner circle for as long as she had. We watch movies with manipulators like Anne, and for the most part, watch them fall in the end. Sadly, I think Anne had thought of herself infallible. She is highly intelligent, I will give her that, but she also had arrogance, no empathy, and damn close to psychotic. JMO. I will also give her that she never did this to her family members, so maybe there is redemption, or she simply knew the rule to never crap in your own yard. She had used them and lied to them, but they were never the ones outright abused by her, if that makes sense. Sure, she never stepped in to correct her Dad when he had initially stood by her, but it had been too late to do anything else. She didn’t have any scruples throwing her best friend under the bus though. The one her family had considered Ruby to be one of their own. This had been her downfall because she did essentially crap in her own backyard. Ruby was family and she had been one of her targets. Now that I’ve been thinking more on it, who knows if she would’ve targeted her parents or sister if they had ever been deemed an enemy in her eyes. We won’t know. But damn, I feel for her husband, Ruby, her parents and sister along with everyone who had their lives destroyed in her wake. I don’t have a lot of empathy for her, because she has none of her own, and it wouldn’t do any good anyways. However, I do hope that therapy will actually be able to work for her. If she wants it, she can do the hard work, it’s all up to her really.

[@SherriLyle80s]

Wow ! That last bit just confirmed everything. She's officially a pathological liar.

[@cpaul9269]

S1 - SMH. I have never understood anyone getting so upset over clothing at weddings (unless an actual wedding dress or something obvious). What a waste of freakin' energy. I can't believe Ruby was willing to show up having not been asked to be in the wedding party. Anne sounds like a superficial brat. Update: WHOA. If I were Dave, I would RUN - far and fast. I would never EVER be able to trust Anne again, and I'd be so embarrassed (even though he/I shouldn't be).. Jeeeeezus.....please tell me Dave walks away. Anne should be in IN-PATIENT CARE!~!!!!!

[@xXSweetsMelodyXx]

This was one crazy ride. To the point Mark react during the reading of the post lol. I also had the same reaction about the grades. I feel bad for the people that she hurt(reputation, emotionally, mentally, career, etc.) just so she could have her perfect world.

[@holeymcsockpuppet]

Her tears are as fake as her love. Therapy won't help Anne. You can't fix sociopaths.

[@timtompkins8774]

She was willing to risk everything including her best friend and family because she didn't want to tell people that he was a recovering drug addict. How stupid. The key to this is that he recognized how bad his problem was and he's doing everything to make sure he never goes back. As a former drug addict I understand how truly hard that is.

[@WhitneyDahlin]

MORE EXTRA LONG STORIES I AM LOVING THESE!

[@immortalsofar5314]

Never underestimate how far people will go to cover up lies. My ex told her side guy that everything was fine - which it could have been if she hadn't continued to treat me like sh*t while she went about it. When we broke up, she told him he had nothing to do with our breakup. I contacted him to say that was bullsh*t and if he hadn't been determined to believe what he wanted to, he would have known that. After I told her I'd told him that, she broke it off with him, too. That's either a bizarre coincidence or a side relationship that was more important than a 16-year main one (a big no-no if you're allowing other people into your relationship) but less important than having to admit to lying. Just wow.

[@SelfRighteous101]

This is ACTUALLY the scariest story I've ever heard.

[@analyticmoviereviews101]

Wow...just...wow. Anne is a TERRIBLE person! Poor Ruby! It's a shame to say that I've had friends like Anne and they will lie, cheat and steal. They are narcissists and manipulators. Poor, poor Ruby and Dave. I'd never speak to Anne again. As for Dave - if she can't accept his past then she doesn't deserve someone like Dave, especially since that's his past. Not his future. Anne has a special place for her when she dies. Because that is completely unforgivable. Talk about a drama show. Good on Dave for divorcing because she does not deserve him.

[@theonlybomber]

Heard the story over on LG but never the comments that you added Mark which helps pay the full picture of Ann’s deception in her own life. It’s crazy that she would purposely do bad on Tests just to preserve an image of herself

[@MsTemptation]

Well damn. Anne was living in her own little world and everyone else are just her flying monkeys. Anne needs some major therapy. She's been creating her own little world for so long until it all came tumbling down.😳

[@projectmicky1226]

Narcissistic tendencies or full blown narcissism is my first guess. She was so obsessed with looking perfect, being perfect, what others perceive her as. She’s manipulative, and she is terrifying. With this level of lying and manipulation that I hear while typing this (as the video continues playing), I’m fearing Machiavellianism. The tears could be just a ploy to make her family feel bad for her. And without anyone in therapy with her, she may try to convince the therapist this was due to family expectation, so that she doesn’t get diagnosed with anything other than trauma or PTSD.

[@milesbrinkley7141]

really liking the longer stories you've been covering lately, and boy is this one a fucking doozy.

[@WolfyFancyLads]

Honestly, the only positive takeaway from this is that Ruby sounds like a swell girl. An odd one perhaps, given she's apparently out there with her fashion, but who doesn't like a little oddness in their friendship? :P

[@joshuarich2607]

Damn there at the end read as an late 90s early 2000s mean girl movie plot. The young woman needs therapy and then they need family therapy to see if/ how it lead to her warped/twisted since a reality too think and do these things.

[@Zminator1986]

I find it funny that Anne's throne of lies collapsed like a house of cards all thanks to a red dress.

[@SamanthaTotimeh]

Ah I remember this story! It's a clusterfudge

[@stirlingarcher7972]

When I read the title of the video I knew you were reading this one. One of the most crazy ones I’ve read. Can’t wait to hear your take on it.

[@nela3986]

I am actually impressed that Dave got her to say the truth. She is on another level of intelligent crazy. Under other circumstances her evil manipulative ways would go on undetected. Dave is a smart man with a backbone. Apparently she didn't foresee that part. That woman gives me chills.

[@gavinwilliams1288]

Holy crap Anne is in need of serious help! She’s formulated a lie of her entire life. Whoa Edit: what’s with these gals who do this? Instead of telling the truth, they lie and keep up the lie even when the walls close in, and when it’s all crashing down they try to do damage control. Too little too late

[@ArcanineEspeon]

I feel a strong connection to Ruby, because I too am a person named Ruby with a sometimes flamboyant style, and I too had to find out my best friend of more than half my life was not the person I thought she was. I wasn't really able to bounce back from that hit because I didn't exactly have other friends. I only had one person who was just as solid (which is still true), and there were needs my ex-friend fulfilled that he'll never be able to.

[@silky0439]

My word! I'm married and I can tell you right now the worst thing you can do is to start a life with someone with lies on your lips. My hubby and I made sure there were absolutely NO secrets before we took our vows. Anything that we missed wasn't on purpose. Considering that we finish each other's sentences, we both know if somebody is lying about the other. Nobody can tell me anything about him or vice versa because we know each other too well and that is as it should be.

[@rickraber1249]

Holy heck, batman! Sounds like Anne is a sociopath, and I mean that literally. She's gotten people fired, ruined friendships, and worst of all, been ashamed of a man who's made good. She should have been proud of him. Hope he got an annulment; boy did he dodge an atom bomb. I hope the therapist can help, but honestly, she should have a warning label tatooed on her forehead, because I doubt if she'll change. That woman is waaay beyond toxic.