Six-Year-Old Shooter Case Update | Analysis of Abigail Zwerner Lawsuit

This video answers the question: Can I offer an update on the case of Abigail Zwerner and the lawsuit that she filed against the Newport News School Board?
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[@Jath2112]

It is disturbing that someone this young can even be this bad already. I ...can't imagine ... it's very hard to take in

[@jenerin905]

I agree! I sure hope CPS has investigated this boy's home because kids tend to reenact what they see. I am glad to hear that his mother is being held responsible for her child's access to her firearm.

[@melissaholleron719]

His Parents are to blame. No 6 year old knows how to take the safety off a trigger, chamber a round of ammunition and shoot a 9mm pistol without seeing it first hand.

[@ivanvarykino8202]

Who is this little monster? He was clearly a threat to everyone around him. The parents should have been forced to deal with and treat his behavior or illness. Not the school. The parents should 100% be sued in civil court by the victim / teacher. And the school.

[@terrioestreich4007]

It can't be his fault, he's practically still a baby. I wonder if he isn't autistic. But to say that he is "bad" is wrong and I think that you should be ashamed of yourself to say such a crappy thing about such a small person. Obviously he has issues that aren't being addressed, and to lay the blame on him is irresponsible

[@pezeron24]

What makes you think he's bad? He's a 6 year-old! What is wrong with you?

[@karobythell4425]

This kid should not have been allowed back to a mainstream school . He should NEVER have been mainstreamed to start with . ( Ex- special needs teacher speaking ) He needs to be under constant supervision and somewhere his behaviour issues can be monitored so he is not a danger to others . Its pretty clear hes going to have a career involving violence, if hes talking about killing his teacher at 6 years of age . Thank you Dr Grande for an excellent analysis . Abigail was indeed heroic and epitomizes the best qualities of teachers . Pity the same couldnt be said for the asst principal .

[@catcoffee7958]

Serial killer and rapist

[@cherylelancaster8791]

I, too, would like to thank you for the excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.

[@jlllx]

what? jump to conclusions much?

[@karobythell4425]

@@jlllx I think the evidence speaks for itself

[@constancegoodwill2416]

@@karobythell4425 Child social worker of 28 years here and I'm shocked by your ignorance. You clearly know little about child development and learning or trauma and the effects on the brain which can be seen in MRI scans, or neuroplasticity and how stable responsive and sensitive carers and therapy can help. Go watch "child of rage" on youtube and then look up how that child turned out as an adult.

[@tracyking5945]

Not only did the school district ignore the teacher Abigail’s valid concerns, it dismissed the warning signs and threats of violence exhibited by the 6-year old shooter. The school district also treated the mother with unwarranted favoritism. Thank you Dr. Grande for giving us powerful life lessons we are never too old to learn.

[@NeoSharkey]

I'd love to know why the assistant principal was handing out candy to students who were misbehaving... It almost seems like she wanted to encourage the bad behavior. We need more teachers like Abigail, very glad to hear she's getting the recognition she deserves.

[@StrongandGrand]

@@NeoSharkey I went to school in Hampton Roads (where Newport News is at). I got in trouble once for fighting (after months of bullying, mind you) and I noticed some of the kids in in-school suspension got to joke around and didn't have to do their school work, unlike me. Come to find out one of the ringleaders of the bad acting kids is the nephew of the teacher who was watching us students. So my assumption is that either she was lazy and felt rewarding people, no matter what they do, is a good thing or she was friends with that family.

[@StrongandGrand]

@@NeoSharkey And on top of that, the bullying I experienced for months was only stopped when I stopped it. My parents repeatedly told the school about me coming home crying, having bruises, and my grades falling compared to how the semester started. These schools, in general, do a terrible job of protecting kids who are victims and either ignore or condone the kids who menace others.

[@Matt-bs9ym]

They didn't want to be accused of racism

[@SusieQzz]

I'm an elementary school teacher, and the way this whole situation was handled is not a surprise to me at all, and that is really sad. It's very common to see our concerns brushed under the rug, and behavior problems are RARELY actually addressed in a helpful way. I hope she wipes that schoolboard clean.

[@angiepayne6104]

Exactly. I just wrote a comment on here, and that is what I am saying. This is a national issue, not just one school here and there. Our country needs a leader to take charge and make some changes in our educational system from k-12.

[@jbrown8601]

Too much red tape in school, someone should of just searched that little punk. Where was security?

[@thecorraleseffect1182]

I’m hoping that this case changes SPED law (which so often places a student’s individual rights over the rights of staff and other students) and makes it easier for schools to protect their staff and students from clearly dangerous behavior.

[@lmae-ng6oj]

Omg that kid wanted to murder his teacher AND acted on it at ONLY 6 years old. This is so bad. He needs serious help.

[@meeeeeeeeeeeep]

I doubt he'll ever be "normal" based on these actions. He will need to be watched his entire life and sadly will only vet more violent as he grows up...

[@EasrterRising1fan]

Yes, unfortunately there is the ability for young kids to do a lot of damage. And there are many kids left vulnerable when the administration does nothing to stop these children. Most schools do not do negative consequences, they only do positive reinforcements and rewards for bad behaviors.

[@catcoffee7958]

​@@chrispnw2547 I think the mother in denial,, and the father passed his bad dna to the kid,, like how a rapist tend to have a rapist son

[@houseofsolomon2440]

Old school drowning pool treatment 👍🏼

[@taunteratwill1787]

Your country needs help! Don't dance around ONE incident of the thousands! 😎

[@williamlehan4079]

Ex-teacher here. I hope Zwerner wins so much money that it forces the state of Virginia to completely scrap whatever statute it is that elevates the “rights” of kids to an education, whether they want it or not; whether they are ready for it or not, over all other considerations, including teacher and student safety.

[@ancientgrizz4183]

Ex-teacher here, also. None of what happened surprises me, at all. I hope she wins big. No way could she go back to work.

[@languay1]

Hear hear! Things need to change for the greater good. This is my 28th year of teaching. (I fixed the first sentence, so please don't correct the one who caught it in the first place.)

[@Jay5-0]

The rights of one child versus the rights of all the others. So crazy they allowed this.

[@dennisyoung4631]

And, of course, the other end of the spectrum also needs addressing, as in the Judge Rottenburg (sp?) Center and its *torturing of “students.”*

[@tlindsay1007]

Agreed! This insanity has gone on for far too long.

[@akemi137]

This reminds me of a situation when was 12. We had a little group of 4 violent kids that one day they decided to still some of my school material on math class. I asked it back and my teacher, who was very aware of their problematic and violent behavior intervened. They became furious but complied. They threatened me and the teacher, but they did nothing in the classroom because she called security. It was the last class of the day and should walk home by myself but my teacher didn't let me go alone. She walked home with me and told me she was going to repport them to the principal and probably things would get worse for me. But she had to do it. The parents would be informed and if they wouldn't take action the school would. And so it happened. All my teachers were informed about the group and my history teacher, a few days later began the class with something like "you 4 kids are violent probably because that's what has been your reality at home. But all the rest of the class will not tolerate that. So before you hurt someone here, remember you'll have to confront your 24 schoolmates and me!" That moment they realised they were in disadvantage and everybody felt united and safe. The school principal also acted as she should. She contacted the parents, she sent the kids to the school psychologist and demanded they were checked everyday to make sure they didn't bring any kind of weapons to school... Of course no one was expecting guns, but knifes and little explosives were expected. I am so proud of my teachers. I think they handled the problem with care and success. 😊 I just wanted to add that this was a plubic (free) school in Portugal in the 90's. I don't know how things are nowadays...

[@markm1514]

In contrast, I was in kindergarten in the southern USA in the 90s when I got in my first fight, a boy was repeatedly trying to jump on the back of another, who was autistic. I told him to stop and he waved me away and did it again so I jumped on _his_ back, to which he turned around and gave me a bloody nose. We both got the same talk from _the police_ who arrived about so-called "zero tolerance" policies, and we both got suspended, and no one did anything about the bullying. I realized then and there that the immediate authorities can't be relied upon to do the right thing.

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

It was better in the US in the 90s. First school shooting was in Jonesboro AR in 1998. Then Columbine in Littleton CO in 1999.

[@princessfrancois8225]

This woman was courageous and I thank God she survived ❤🙏🏾

[@Hollypenopepper]

According to your stupid religion, it was God's plan in the first place for her to be shot.

[@jackiegrice714]

I agree that Abigail Swarner is a hero, without a doubt. When I first heard about this I was amazed at her courage and dedication to the safety of her students. I think the Assistant Principal in this instance was in a habit of disrespecting the teachers who worked under her and dismissing their concerns. I don’t think she took the behavior of John Doe seriously, and assumed because of his age he could do little harm, even if he wanted to. That turned out to be a critical mistake. Thank you for updating us Dr. Grande.

[@ponohawelu4608]

The assist principle was/is lazy and just showed up to her office to collect a paycheck and benefits.

[@GiveMeCoffee]

I've met many people who can't tolerate being told a child can misbehave, it is as if they do not want to accept that children can have bad behavior. They refuse any kind of corrections or discipline, and will encourage the children to keep behaving poorly.

[@Flamsterette]

@@ponohawelu4608 You are also lazy. *ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@GiveMeCoffee Ah you are trolling.

[@intorainbowzOG]

A gun is a great equalizer. Deadly in the hands of a child or adult.

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

Early on a lady from Newport News schools stated that this child in no way should have been mainstreamed in with the other children, regardless of whether a parent was present or not. I have not seen her since. The admins who have resigned should be stripped of any certifications, so that they don't just transfer to another municipality. This entire thing was preventable.

[@swedishmeatball4382]

I had a student who came us to as he began 7th grade (after being held back a year somewhere earlier in his school life). We can call him John. John was born with Fetal Alchol Syndrome and had spent all his life in foster care due to his mother's addiction and inability to care for herself, much less a child (his sister, one year his junior, lived with the same foster family and was in another class at our school). The foster mother informed my co-mentor and I that John had spent the last four years at a facility, locked in a room with a tutor and released into a tiny courtyard surrounded by barbed wires during recess. He had had zero social interactions with other children, and she was convinced he would be sent back to said facility within a couple of days. We just had to alert someone and he'd be sent away ASAP. That is what SHOULD have happened in this case with this boy.

[@dianacooper-havlik4115]

@@bunnyluver2176 Unfortunately, the school system decided to mainstream students, on parental request, as they didn’t want children to be “labeled”.

[@Flamsterette]

Early on what? You need a comma.

[@BrenTenn]

@@swedishmeatball4382the socially isolated child needed to be socially isolated further for the crime of having a physical disability? I pray to god that you are never placed in a position of care for a child or young person 🙏

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

@@Flamsterette This phone sucks to type on, it's got a really small window when typing, makes it difficult to proof read, once I'm down the line on my soliloquy, I sometimes make spelling and punctuation mistakes. I actually went back looking for the "early on" comment, I was going to find out who was responsible for the gaffe. Turned out it was me. Oh well, all apologies.

[@EveningTV]

How many students have their education compromised because they are in school with a child like this? I don't know what happened to this kid or why he is like this, but it wasn't helpful to him to continue giving him the opportunity to harm others or himself. The cost of keeping this child in a regular school simply makes no sense.

[@maureendoerner9002]

My son attended an elementary school that had a bad physical bully. He was attacked by the bully and the bully's friend and sustained bruises and back pain. The school didn't inform me that my son has been hurt. A janitor had stopped the assault or my son could have been hurt badly. My son told me that this bully had been doing this crap all year(he was also a 1st grader), and the only punishment he got was to do his school work in the office. I confronted the school, and they tried to make the excuse that the bully was a child of a working single mother. I told them I was a working single mother, and MY son wasn't hurting other children! They promised he would be punished appropriately. He wasn't. He got time in the office as usual. It wasn't until the bully broke a little girl's arm that he was finally removed from that school. Unfortunately, my son learned as a first grader that he couldn't count on school personnel to protect him. He lost faith in authority figures, and so did I.

[@EveningTV]

@@maureendoerner9002 I understand, and am really sorry that happened. I don't know if our educators feel their hands are tied by the laws surrounding this or what but it really makes no sense. A child like this will gobble up 90% of the teacher's attention and everyone suffers as a result.

[@jbrown8601]

The public school system is useless

[@gozorak]

I live very near to Newport News Va. I grew up in and in fact attended Newport News public schools from 2nd grade to 5th grade. This was in the 1970's. At that time there were no child safety lock laws on the books and there were few if any restrictions on the purchase and ownership of firearms. There were also "troubled" kids with negligent parents who were always getting into fights and being disruptive in class. Yet in spite of this, there were never the issues that public schools now face with student violence against staff and or other students. Blaming the gun or even the bad parent doesnt get the job done. They are definitely contributing factors but there is something else at play here that I can only speculate about. The infantilization of the American adult which has led to an abandonment of responsible parenting and supervision by guardians is the kind of thing Im referring to. I will say this, living in the area I have seen and read hours upon hours of local news coverage of this event in both the local newspapers and on local television news broadcasts. Dr Grande in this 15 minute break down has provided the most informative presentation of the facts as they are now understood to be that I have yet to see. It is as if the local news outlets dont quite have it in them to address the facts of the case in their totality for whatever the reason. Thank you Dr Grande

[@svbsvbsvb]

Out of curiosity, how many students per teacher were there when you attended and how many students per teacher are there now? Do you know or have a rough estimate? Teacher's salaries don't exactly increase to follow cost-of-living increases and I've heard that, in general, they're managing more students per class than is efficient for teaching. News coverage seems to be good with updates or recent happenings in stories, but rarely seem to have an informational report collecting all the case details, when the case has progressed or ended. Even when they report on the resolution of a court case, they don't have the succinct detail of information that Dr. Grande gives. Having easy access to people who value in-depth research and want to organize and present it is one of the great points of this modern internet age.

[@gozorak]

@georgeprince3169 Gloucester Point area. Moved here in 1976. 5th Grade until high school graduation here in Gloucester

[@QueenOfTheNorth65]

How are the parents able to “refuse” for their child to be placed into a special education classroom? It should have been demanded. He should have been put into an alternative school.

[@Cactus_hug]

The parent is black that’s how. The people are terrified of being called a racist for any reason and nowadays it’s claimed non stop.

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

The parents didn't seem to be able to use mature and adequate judgement. They knew their child was (beyond) troubled yet still decided to have a gun in their house. That's just stupid.

[@Cactus_hug]

@@KimberlyLetsGo they can’t refuse when the child is a grave danger to other children.

[@Cactus_hug]

@@Firefly-tf8gu no not when the child is a danger to the other children. They don’t get to say the child stays in class.

[@dillonc7955]

​@@KimberlyLetsGo Anyone, especially a parent should be allowed a means to defend themselves. However, a shocking amount of people forget a method of storing a gun securely, especially from kids. If someone else gets ahold of YOUR gun, you're going to be held responsible according to the law. That's one of the simple responsibilities of owning a firearm.

[@annharris8550]

The child should not have been allowed back into the classroom the first time parent wasn’t with him. As a teacher I’ve been through this with severely angry children. Districts don’t know what to do with these kids. They are often rewarded as stated or get to have lunch with the counselor. Then they get returned to the class. I hope she gets every penny she’s owed from that suit.

[@elisaaguilar6423]

I’m a teacher and I hope she gets every cent! Screw these districts

[@Karen-mi3yz]

Exactly right. Letting kid in without someone being with him at all times was only the FIRST mistake these moron school administrators made. Principal, vice principal and superintendent have either quit or been fired (with huge severance package of course). Zwerner deserves every penny of the $40 million she is seeking. Unfortunately the taxpayers are getting screwed big time because of an utter lack of common sense and due diligence by a bunch of total idiots.

[@babble2leeza]

They should have kept the paddle in the principals office. My brother was violent to other kids. He got a paddle from the principal almost daily for 3 months. He finally started following the rules. Of course he went back to his inappropriate behavior when we moved to another place. He was in special education. I remember being 7yrs old and asking my mom why he's so crazy. She said he just thinks differently, that why we all have to be more patient with him. 🤔 How about a big fat NO. If he would have been given the same consequences as the rest of us maybe his future could have been better than it is now. My mom still made excuses for him until she died. When he was 22yrs old he cut my throat, I was 19yrs old. He has been diagnosed paronoid schizophrenic with criminal intent. I'm now 57yrs old and he's still threatens me. 😮 This teacher was blessed to have survived. Maybe now people/parents will understand that mental illness, aggressiveness, sexual deviantcy does not start at 18yrs old. It slowly shows symptoms from toddler on. There is no doubt in my mind that if given the opportunity, my brother will hurt someone again. When he trespasses on my property they take to the hospital where he only stays 3 days. When he cut and stabbed me he only spent one year in the hospital. He broke his wife's collar bone. No consequences. His son has just been diagnosed schizophrenic at 34yrs old. I don't know why it took so long. 😮

[@LifesPeachy321]

I'm praying this kid is getting some help! I surely wouldn't want that monster put back in my child's class! That's a terrifying thought! The things teacher's have to deal with...bless 'em! The Principle should be fired! Rewarding kids for bad behavior...that's unreal!

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

Dr Grande, you have given us much more detail than the media. Abigail deserves any and all support she can get in this horrific incident.

[@mattblom3990]

I'm a former teacher up in Canada and at least here, the problem is that the #1 priority of school boards in the government is to have all students integrated together in a typical class at all costs. A student who is persistently violent and threatening is treated as if none of their behaviour is their responsibility and that one more talk, one more small intervention, one more "chance" will allow the student to reform and integrate successfully. Unfortunately, this is not congruent with human nature.

[@creolelady182]

The incompetence of the admin staff is beyond belief. They were simply too lazy to do anything about it. I question why a troubled child would be in a school full of normal children. And I wonder did the other parents know about this dangerous child

[@fullmetal_neet2288]

It’s racist to search black children in school. That explains the reluctance from the administration

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

​@@fullmetal_neet2288 The admins were running the clock out, it was almost time to leave. It would soon be someone else's problem. Disciplinary actions have been severely curbed over the past 20 years, regardless of the ethnic background of the students or staff. My mom retired out of Norfolk Public Schools, we are on the other side of the river from Newport News.

[@bthomson]

There is a problem that arises between the "rules" made with regular children in mind ( an example might be not to search a child) and the unusual and rare occasion of a very disturbed child.

[@analarson5342]

Totally agreed 💯. It's not discrimination it's the safety of others. He's not mentally a normal child. Awfull all those adults allowed to this happen.

[@reneethorn145]

​@@fullmetal_neet2288 this is not about the child's race. He was known to be a problem student, and if another child reported seeing a gun it should've been taken seriously by the vice principal of the school.

[@SpeedbirdNine9]

Don't those school officials understand that what gets rewarded gets repeated? Why are they giving rewards for bad behavior? This a systemic problem and is the reason many teachers are quitting.

[@fredajordan5704]

Carolyn. I so much agree....

[@moltderenou]

Blood is thicker than water.

[@martina21953]

They all stepped down.

[@leannemo7382]

They were afraid to be accused of racism.

[@moltderenou]

@@leannemo7382 They were all black, like the “student”.

[@DesertPrimrose]

I think the ignoring of or even rewarding bad behavior by school leaders is actually a widespread issue.

[@angiepayne6104]

I agree

[@pachiefbrody]

My wife is an elementary teacher in a title 1 school district. Rewarding kids that are sent to the office, letting them run around the school unsupervised, the administration being annoyed by teachers bringing problems to their attention, letting these kids assault other kids and staff with barely any consequences, zero consequences for anything other than serious infractions are all the norm. I think the reason is that they are understaffed and don’t have the money or resources to deal with these kids. They also know they aren’t going to be able to fix these kids. So they just try to get through the day appeasing them. Unfortunately in the end it’s probably only making things worse.

[@DesertPrimrose]

@@pachiefbrody it's the same at my middle school. I don't want to get into the specifics, but I'm demoralized by the situation.

[@angiepayne6104]

@@pachiefbrody Exactly! That is what it is. It is so sad. We need more teachers, teachers aids, music class in elementary schools, P.E. in elementary schools (this all starts at a young age), counselors, yard duty staff (not the over worked teachers, who can hardly get a chance to go pee). If children like Jane Doe are required to be in a general education setting/school, we need the money and resources to hire 1:1 aids for those children, mostly to protect the teachers, staff, and other children! The list goes on. But, you are correct about the situation as it is now. It is so sad that our country just keeps taking money from the schools, and/or mis-appropriating those funds. I am very passionate about this issue, so I will stop here. 😊

[@dannnyjos]

Ignoring bad behavior is normal now at days when dealing with bl**cks. It's called black privilege.

[@Shutityou]

Many years ago kids were excluded too easily. The pendulum has swung too far the other way and some classrooms are unmanageable. My wife is a teacher and has been hit, bitten, had things thrown at her etc. it is so disruptive and damaging to staff and other children. Nightmare.

[@TheBOG3]

Bless her. I couldn't do what she does. They'd call the police on me for attacking the biting, throwing, kicking twerps.

[@barbaradownie3265]

WHY WAS HE ALLOWED TO COME BACK TO SCHOOL???

[@Krackerrs]

Because he’s Caucasianally challenged and the school would’ve been marked as racist!

[@lynne8755]

Because BLM and the teacher didn't.

[@Wilbur-mj3fq]

Because the parents seemed stubborn and the school didn't strong arm them. The parents knew damn well that kid was a danger to society and to get a break from him they dumped him at school.

[@celestem4069]

because something something race and equity and something something positive relationships.

[@johnnyearp52]

Racists are joining the chat...

[@brittanybeauvais]

I would like to know more about how this child has been raised because this is absolutely crazy. Either this kid was born pure evil or he is seeing and experiencing some horrific things in his home life. I hope we get more insight into this situation.

[@wrp3621]

I wonder about that also. My brother in law is doing life without parole for the murder of his girlfriend, the 5 other siblings in his family are all upstanding people who have never committed any crime or violence. They come from a nurturing home . But this kid was trouble pretty much from the start. It's hard to believe people can be born evil, but maybe so.

[@catcoffee7958]

He could be a an evil seed,,,, I mean where is the father,, is he a criminal who passed his mental sickness to the kid

[@brittanybeauvais]

@@wrp3621 wow, that’s really heavy and I’m sorry your family is going through that. Exactly, I’m hesitant to immediately blame the parents because we simply don’t know the facts of the situation. However, the parents being made aware of his behavior and still not accompanying him as agreed with the school leads me to believe there’s at least a bit a negligence there. Who really knows, but I’m just so glad the teacher and students survived this time. Absolutely ridiculous that this is something that even happened in the first place. What a world.

[@plywoodal3012]

@@wrp3621 when you have a scenario where there are overachievers in a sibling arrangement, the one that is underachieving (at least in their mind) may act out in a violent albeit desperate manner. It happens over and over. The fact that they can’t measure up is overwhelming and they commit crimes that are otherwise unexplainable. 😢

[@RazedParadise]

You should look up "child of rage". It isn't about the boy, but it is a look into how abuse and neglect from a young age can warp a child's perspective on the world. There are a few paths the brain can react to such events, extreme hatred/violence is one one of them.

[@corneleousworthington4566]

A 6 year old child is not born having these traits. He’s clearly encountering violence and bad behavior at home. Parents need to be held responsible period. Abigail is a hero- she stepped up for her students.

[@eoinoconnell185]

Actually, if you listen to Dr Grande, he is explaining how they ARE born with these traits.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

Neglect and abuse = damaged kids

[@Alkis05]

@@eoinoconnell185 They are not born with personality, theory of mind and empathy either, but all of that develops naturally as their brain develops. Its not just about education. If they have some predisposition that compromises proper development in normal circumstances, they would require special care that most parents are not equipped to deal with. Or they might never develop properly. In other words, in some cases, even though the parents did the best they could, kids will still have trouble in their development. Some times the parents need help, but there is none available to them.

[@celestem4069]

This story horrifies me because it could have happened to me or anyone else in the title 1 school I taught in. I ended up leaving teaching altogether because I was scared for my safety and the administration was not only negligent but reinforced it (“well this student is x or has y, so therefore you brought it upon yourself.”). If I could talk to Abby Zwerner, all I would say is that she is a brave woman and that she deserves all the justice and then some. This principal needs to be punished. I would say the parent too, but it sounds like that’s already happening. The child is obviously sick.

[@amycaitlyn1120]

What a complete failure of the parents and school officials to deal with this, seemingly deeply disturbed child. I am happy to see the mother was charged and Abigail filed this lawsuit. A child doesn't come into this world with such anger and a propensity for violent behavior. The people who enabled this to continue, didn't respond to the warning signs, and endangered the life of this young teacher all need to be held accountable. I saw her interview on tv, and it broke my heart. I hope and pray she will be able to recover and find herself again after this traumatic event.

[@stefanforrer2573]

well, it does happen.... not their fault, but children born after severe drug use during pregnancy show a clear tendency to violent outbursts and intrusive thoughts.... so, some are actually born that way

[@beverleyuntiedt1777]

Some children are born evil! Malific souls which I regard as factory defects who need to go back to the Creator. My son raped women and almost killed his brother and father. Fortunately he died of a heart attack. God took him back before he ended up in prison. My husband's nephew threatened to kill his gran at the age of six. He was in a serious car accident and should have died. Modern medicine kept him alive and now he's seriously retarded. These demented souls need to be returned to their Maker.

[@sankey8888]

It’s easy to blame the parents, but some kids have severe emotional/ behavioral disorders at a young age.

[@B.H.56]

There are people who are born psychopaths.

[@amycaitlyn1120]

@@sankey8888 And that is why this child should have been supervised better or should have received help for his emotional issues. That is a failure of the parents and the school. His mother was supposed to be in attendance, apparently. This was a horrible situation that could have been prevented on multiple fronts.

[@loiskondo8349]

What a troubled child, with parents who don’t seem capable of dealing with him. And the candy reward, really? Can a child this troubled be helped. I hope so. Thank you Dr. Grande for a fascinating video, though very sad.

[@catcoffee7958]

No just put down.. His parents in denial probably one parent is like that.

[@NigelJackson]

Highly unlikely.

[@analarson5342]

The parents is leasy wants all the people around their son to taking care of him. I know people like this.

[@spOOkytimes]

If the system is failing him so bad this early on, I doubt it. The school admin should be reporting all these things to CPS. With him being this disturbed so early on, CPS should be visiting them weekly and have extensive file for him and he should not be in the general population. He 100% is being abused or witnessing all types of it.

[@constancegoodwill2416]

Yes this child can be helped. He's just demonstrating what he's learned at home sadly. Watch "child of rage" on youtube. Is shows a young girl who herself was neglected and abused and how she thought and acted. Luckily she was removed from her parents care and provided with therapy and as an adult became a nurse and productive member of society. Ignore the ignorant comments on here.

[@holdencawffle626]

Former k-12 special education school administrator here It's very, VERY challenging to unilaterally place a child into a special education program - even if you have plenty of data (required) and ALL of the school district staff (gen ed teacher, sped teacher, school psych, administrators, and anyone else on the IEP team) agree to it. The key is the parent. If the parent doesnt agree - and authorize it with with written legal consent - then it's not happening, and the child stays in the general education program. And/or - the other key is if the parent feels (or continues to feel) that the services are 'appropriate.' This is because of the 1975 law called IDEA, where all children have a right to be educated with their typically-developing peers. IDEA has been reauthorized several times since 1975, and now the procedural safeguards for the children and families are very strong, giving them a lot of latitude. School districts are constantly fighting lawsuits, which usually end up as settlement agreements where the parents get their way (because it's too costly for the school district to go to court). So much of taxpayer money goes into fighting these lawsuits (not to mention time/effort/anguish from school staff), and the real winners seem to be the lawyers, who know it's easy money to represent a family. I could go on, but you get the picture

[@leannemo7382]

Yep. It didn’t help that teachers and administrators also chose to look the other way to avoid being accused of racism.

[@sprezzatura8755]

The only way a kid develops this much hate this young is in the home. Just look at the picture of the mother who was just booked on felony child neglect and misdemeanor firearm charges. Just look at the Hate In Her Eyes. Tells you everything you need to know. I hope this teacher gets 100 million dollars.

[@socialsocial8350]

Exactly. If I were a judge, I would order both the father and the mother to be sterilized immediately.

[@alice_rabbit8345]

A agree, she looked rough

[@lindaginn7714]

All the news sites I'm looking at don't have the booking photo. Would you please provide a link.

[@zyrrhos]

From the photo I saw of her, she looked pretty indignant. I hope she gets time behind bars.

[@MacMilly707]

"oh you shot your teacher?", Here's some candy baby! 🤦

[@Lei3195i]

I just can't get over that. 😳

[@caulkins69]

The progressive mindset in a nutshell.

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@caulkins69 Or the lazy mindset. Don't bother with consequences. Just shut the kid up with a candy and send them back to class.

[@maureeningleston1501]

WOW!!! This 6 year old sounds like Damien from "The Omen" 😱😱😱

[@kaineandrews3790]

Damien had more class.

[@caulkins69]

@@kaineandrews3790 And a higher IQ.

[@jbrown8601]

@Satan 🤣

[@seascape1016]

Dr. Grande I’m still struggling with this behavior from a 6 year old. I can’t imagine what his home life was like. I’m glad the teacher survived and wish her well. Thanks for your analysis as always.

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

Tell your parents you love them. Not all kids are born to decent parents unfortunately

[@Iteachem1980]

The child clearly needed special education services. When a parent will not consent to this, and they change a child's placement without consent the district faces the possibility of a lawsuit on the part of the parents. These parents should therefore be held fully responsible. The school special education admin and building admin may have felt that their hands were tied by Special Ed laws, but they didn't fully consider the safety of others in contact with this child. Unfortunately, Abigail and the rest of the students will never be the same. She reacted with concern for her students' safety first. A true hero.

[@barbarapaige]

Yes, imagine your child sees their teacher shot, with blood pouring out of her and the child is rightly terrified of going back to school. This boy caused so much pain to so many people.

[@QueenOfTheNorth65]

How does a 6 year old develop THIS MUCH anger and aggression?

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

Home environment.

[@amandafey]

Also, genetics. Some people have VERY flawed, dysfunctional genetics.

[@Mike_Davidson]

He's black actually 🤣🤣🤣

[@dillonc7955]

From the story, it looks like the child's family was careless and coddled him from any responsibility of his actions. Same story with the school, they didn't take punishments seriously enough let alone the threats of a kid carrying a gun. The kid can easily become a career criminal if he doesn't get rehab of some kind.

[@elizabethdalton-jandreau5588]

Or, Conduct Disorder. It's very real, very scary, but with proper, swift, early intervention and continuity of programming, it is treatable. I've seen Oppositiknal Defiant Disorder mentioned in other people's comments, but professionally speaking, I do not believe that was the main disorder.

[@SentMyOwnWay]

I’m just glad the teacher is okay.

[@paulmcmurray8313]

So true.

[@meeeeeeeeeeeep]

She has PTSD & bullet fragments in her, she's not okay. I think a better word is "alive" bc she's definitely not okay.

[@shirmeymckamey9386]

​@@meeeeeeeeeeeep sorry to hear but unsuprising

[@sonjastanger5858]

Agree 💯🙏👍

[@christiannewinslow7755]

It’s amazing that she recovered so well physically. I hope she is getting the help she needs to be mentally okay too 🥺

[@annelawrence9127]

As a former school division employee, I can totally see how this rolled out. I hope she wins big. The little ‘mafias’ at work in an educational setting are real. And they stick together no matter what the problem is. Problems are redirected and covered up to protect the ‘little mafias’. Thirty years showed me all the sh1t shows. Just when you think it can’t be real, yep, it is. Terrifying. Thank you Dr Grande for the follow up. This is near my neck of the woods.

[@patmuscarella8279]

Thank you Dr. G. Love your detail of this case. Its hard to believe that everyone in a administrative position blew off their responsibility to protect there teachers an other students. Where were the adults?? Looking the other way? Afraid to be wrong about child having a gun. Sooooo many issues here. These administrators should never be allowed to be in any school system ever.

[@lynnehuff9659]

Scary

[@leannemo7382]

According to other parents, his own had decided to “play the race card” while the school was afraid to “play with fire” during such punitive times with public mobs. 😬

[@michaelzell5905]

"A Clockwork Orange" comes to mind for some reason.

[@cptjockitch]

It’s hilarious to me that adults don’t want to punish the kid. It’s like people forgot what being a kid was like. When I was a kid there were bad kids. The thought that this kid isn’t bad is hilarious. What kind of lesson are we sending to this kid? He’s a bad kid and should be punished. It’s crazy to me that we treat kids like this. Kids should be held accountable for there actions too.

[@MartineH1]

Indeed. How many times when we were kids our parents prohibited us to go out or play with certain kids? Because they were bad influence on us?

[@kaleblavender6093]

I don't think that they're refusing to punish him. Their only option is to send him to a secure facility. There is no jail or prison for 6 year olds.

[@shirmeymckamey9386]

​@@kaleblavender6093 I hope a securefacity is where the kid is headed, for a very, very long time!!

[@cptjockitch]

@@kaleblavender6093 the kid did more than enough to be taken out of school before this shooting. We live in a crazy world where people are ok with giving kids the right to change there sex but not ok with punishing kids when they commit a serious crime. These kids identity’s shouldn’t be protected. Everyone should know who this kid is so there kid doesn’t have to go to school with him.

[@christopherleadholm6677]

Who remembers being six as an adult tho..?

[@zenawarrior7442]

Our society is failing children in so many ways. Great update on a sad yet hopeful case. Thanks Dr G😊💚❤

[@jkhtravelrn]

Excellent analysis. I learned so much from this video. When I taught Sunday school at church, I had one kindergartner who had severe autism. His parents said their older son was cured from the same thing with prayer. When Luke, who was approximately 5 years old was in my class I had to have a second person in the class to keep him from harming himself and others. He would rarely interact in any normal way with anyone in class. Students were afraid of him, he only spoke in grunts and screams, didn’t do anything with the class, or participate in any of the crafts we would do in each class. His parents were educated but at the time, they had 7 children. Luke was the second youngest and the most destructive, out of control chins I’ve ever seen. I do not know what ended up happening but he would be 20 years old now (approximately). The only thing that changed was that the other teachers and I were given a second helper to be one on one with Luke during class. Usually it was a 11-15 year old child of one of the other family’s in church. I wonder if that was part of the John Doe kids issues? Because he sounds a lot like Luke. It’s so scary that a child of 6 years can act like he did and still come into school there with all of those kids. If I had a child there, especially a 5-6 year old girl who had been the victim of John pulling up her skirt and acting out sexually. Every child who had to interact with that kid, or who was at all exposed to him, especially those in the class when he shot his teacher, should sue and be compensated. They are all victims. His parents and the staff who gave him candy and didn’t make the parent stay with him EVERY SECOND he was at school should lose their jobs and spend time in jail for not ensuring the safe environment thst a school should have. John needs to never be back at any place where students are. I see him killing people if he is left with his parents, as they obviously don’t give a 💩 about him or the other students. This makes me so upset. God bless Abigail! What a strong, amazing person she is. It’s a shame thst this kid affected her just with his look. I hope she is able to carry on with her career. She is an asset to any organization or community thst she is in.

[@emarie1513]

This is the first time I have heard that we humans start out narcissistic and we have to grow out of it-brilliant.

[@fpfp2196]

I’ve always thought that toddlers are cute little narcissists and psychopaths! They eventually grow out of it with a little thoughtful parenting though. However, perhaps not all do.

[@Lei3195i]

I understand it as when we are babies we don't have empathy and theory of mind yet. It takes a few years to develop that. So it's in a sense like narcissism. We want our needs met and aren't capable of considering others. But babies don't have developed personalities at all, so in some ways it isn't totally comparable to narcissism. At that stage, we kind of don't know anything but I'm hungry, I'm tired, my teeth hurt, etc, this means it's time to cry.

[@JMelissaMc]

Most of us aren't born good, we have to be taught to be good!

[@polarbearsrus6980]

You didn't get it, try again.

[@Alkis05]

That is kind of misleading. That is like calling a cat narcissistic. At about 6 months, kids learn to differentiate between them and other people and to differentiate between different people. At age 1 to 2, they learn basic social norms. Only between ages 2 to 3 it start recognizing that other people have desires and needs of their own. There is a big difference between not being able to do that and not accepting, in any situation, that other people's needs and desires could come first than your own.

[@BaDazai]

The child is an evil menace, can he even change? How and where do you begin to change him for the better when he's already this far gone, violent and evil at such a young age? 6 years and he's already plotting and executing murd*r? At 6 I was still learning how to hold and write using a pencil. He has a 'HISTORY' of violence, at 6!!!! 🙃🙃🙃

[@elizabethdalton-jandreau5588]

Conduct Disorder. This whole thing has screamed CD to me since day one of the story breaking. If, that is truly what this child has, there is no cure, only programming available to change his behavior.

[@Lei3195i]

imo hell to the no. If a kid is already Ted Bundy by age 6, his neural plasticity isn't going to do a u-turn in the next few years. Development will keep going in that direction, into a more skilled psychopath.

[@rebeccashields9626]

Yeah it saddens me to think about what this kid has had to endure to make him that violent at such a young age. Also what is the prognosis for that? What are the odds of that ever improving? It feels hopeless.

[@Karen-mi3yz]

@@elizabethdalton-jandreau5588 At age 6 he has conduct disorder. When he turns 18 he is a psychopath.

[@elizak1459]

@@rebeccashields9626 I guess this boy is not suffering much, he just does whatever he pleases and never bears the consequences. Who is suffering is that teacher who almost died and poor other children who got a real trauma after this incident and others such as an attempted rape and strangulation. I am wondering why none is saddened about them. Since when we became more compassionate to criminals than to their victims? Can you imagine constant stress his classmates had when going to the school with such a person?

[@elizabethhamm5320]

My heart goes out to the teacher and the students who had to witness this event. Thanks for the update During. Grande. The added statistics were a nice touch. We should all be aware of what makes youth at risk of committing violence

[@m3rrys0ngstr3ss]

I don't blame her at all for going the lawsuit route.

[@wandaburns8075]

How can a six year old be so broken already? The psychology of this kid would be fascinating.

[@lf9341]

I;m sure abused himself or possibly born evil.

[@bthomson]

And scary.

[@Wilbur-mj3fq]

.. after hearing some of the things the kid did I strongly believe that kid was sexually assaulted, beaten and chased with belts, threatened with the fire arm he used against his teacher, strangled by his parents, and basically any thing he did, he learned and had done to him I believe at his home. I don't write this to excuse him at all!! I do it because I think the parents need to be investigated and charged with several crimes likely rape/sexual assault, heavy assault and exposure and easy access to a firearm just off the top of my head.. those parents need a life sentence. They know what they did to him and just dumped him at school knowing he was a danger to everyone.

[@Ginyu]

@@Wilbur-mj3fq From what i get out of this story, there is no "they". Just a Momma. I blame fatherless homes for most crime in general.

[@Wilbur-mj3fq]

@@Ginyu ahh ok makes a lot of why he names all the statistics with women and children ... That really broke my heart bc I check just about every box. I didn't know I was pregnant until I was 2.5 months and I used to be a drinker, smoker, man I really hate myself and. I hope my child doesn't reap badly over the statistics I chose for him he is innocent. 😢

[@jimc.goodfellas]

Sadly this story is just another example of how our country, our society is crumbling

[@bhillis99]

To be fair, we live in diff times. Parents won’t parent and try to be their kids friend. Phone usually in face. Also we see every bit of news nowdays if we want to see it. There is so much good done everyday we never see.

[@janieraltreche1989]

No I think this is a example of a psychopath.they exist in all generations despite of good or bad parenting

[@code-52]

Late stage capitalism.

[@Bravetrain13]

​​​@@code-52 it's funny that you all say late stage capitalism when the antithesis to capitalism is what's causing society to decline. You don't even know what you mean by late stage capitalism. Every country in the world outside of a few are capitalists, with some having been capitalist for centuries. Where's their late stage capitalism? How exactly does this situation relate to late stage capitalism? I'd love to hear an answer. 🤡

[@fredajordan5704]

Jim C.Yes very correct statement.

[@AlinJapan]

It's shocking how irresponsible the Assistant Principle was in this case. What was she thinking? Abigail is indeed a hero for putting her students ahead of her own safety and health.

[@lildoodle6081]

I am in college & have many close friends who are currently student teachers. This story hit really close to home.

[@nicholasdumon5579]

That principle grossly underestimate the capacity hoodie pockets

[@aquarius5461]

The James Bulger case was horrific!! But god a 6 year wanting to kill, is off the charts!! It’s scary times!!!!

[@LadyOfMaine]

Then they gave the little criminals new identities! Imagine marrying one of them!

[@vinny1883]

"He stated that he did not have a firearm, but he would not let her take the backpack." Dear god how strong is this child? He's 6 and they're saying he has a gun, take the goddamn backpack away and check.

[@marlinfisher2529]

Dear Dr Grande. So pleased you have chosen to update this case. I am delighted that the mother is charged with a felony in relation to a loaded gun her violent son got his hands on. Astounding. A superbly engaging and brilliant analysis. Once more reminding us all of the critical importance of heeding signs. Sadly the administration of the school put their heads in the sand like an ostrich becoming obvious to serious warning signs. Many thanks for your pertinent update.

[@Roxy0405]

Hope she wins! 🤞🤞🤞

[@sandybeasley2286]

Thank you so much for your explanation . You explained step by step what was happening and and finally a teacher gets recognized for their work . Unfortunately this lack of communication between office and teacher is all to come in your school system. Office staff put the parents thoughts above what is best for the students and staff they’re all trying to be politically correct. We need to get back to basics oh what is right what is wrong and be consistent that’s my thoughts and 25 years of working at a school

[@1247ashley]

So he attempted to SA another student and was allowed to return to school with that child? I wonder why none of the parents pushed the issue either.

[@leannemo7382]

No one wanted to be unfairly accused of racism.

[@1247ashley]

@Leanne Mo How do you know the face of the girl? Look up the demographics of Newport News.

[@lauracampa1838]

Foster parent here….I have dealt with way too many violent children. Case workers and the whole system seem to enforce the bad behaviors.

[@Cat-qo3ht]

This is a tragic situation all around. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for this detailed update.

[@tommays56]

My Nephew has this and nothing could prepare anyone for the impossibility of the situation Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD)[1] is listed in the DSM-5 under Disruptive, impulse-control, and conduct disorders and defined as "a pattern of angry/irritable mood, argumentative/defiant behavior, or vindictiveness".[2] This behavior is usually targeted toward peers, parents, teachers, and other authority figures

[@LaurenThompson702]

So basically it's targeted towards everyone.

[@meeeeeeeeeeeep]

Scary, I'm so sorry. Honestly, hearing stuff like this makes me not want to have kids.

[@CharGC123]

This kid is obviously severely damaged and should not have been in classes without supervision, how could that mother decline? In general, kids today are indulged and ignored, they need to be loved and raised with limitations by caring parents for a reason! You can't raise normal kids who spend the majority of their days in front of the TV, electronics, or in paid daycare, where the only investment caregivers have in a child is a paycheck. Not saying there aren't decent ones, but still.

[@dwsmyyth3480]

He's at least has ODD but he's probably a sociopath too.

[@shethingsd]

@Dw Smyyth children can't be diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is the diagnosis that people commonly call Sociopathy or Psychopathy. One of the biggest predictors for APD is Oppositional DD in childhood, so most likely, that's definitely where he's headed.

[@TonyRedunzo]

This is the most emotion I've seen Dr. Grande show in any of his videos, especially when he clearly explained his reasons for why he thinks Abigail Zwerner is a hero. I'm disgusted with the behavior of the school administration who could have averted this tragedy. But I'm filled with admiration for Abigail Zwerner who thought first of the safety of her students before her own welfare. I think the word "hero" is overused in the media but not in the case of Abigail. Her actions on that day were truly heroic.

[@Seaglassandsage]

I didn’t know that a parent could decide not to put their child in special education. Especially with such a violent and disruptive student. 😳

[@royalmichaels1289]

Quite possibly the best video yet! The way you described Abigail’s actions at the end of the video really drove home how horrific it must have been and the true nature of Abigail’s character. It actually brought me to tears. Thank you!

[@wintercame]

You're not alone, I'm peeling onions.

[@mc26collum]

There's a boy like Jon Doe in my school. Finally one of the teachers gave him a time-out. His mom immediately complained and the school fired the teacher. It's lose-lose situation.

[@tgin7100]

my god, this is education, not retail!! "the customer is always right" vibes.

[@danielasanchez4674]

My former boss, after-school daycare told a kid's mom that he was bullying others, and she ended up getting an ear lashing from the father for 2 hours.

[@TJ_USA]

They're describing this kid like he's a grown man. "He would not let her search his backpack" Huh! He's six for Christsakes. Just search the damn backpack!

[@chumchum4393]

I worked in an elementary school like this. Children were bussed from the projects and they had horrific attitudes. The parents were druggies, and had no lives or jobs. We pay for this with our tax money. Something Has to be done. It’s a large problem.

[@grangrampa832]

I can’t believe a child this young has these thoughts

[@polarbearsrus6980]

You have a lot to learn... this is not rare.

[@lizmelo7315]

I can understand the kid not being charged but there should be some mandatory therapy and review of the parents. I believe the school and that VP is totally at fault. I think the parents of the kids in the class should also file suits that their children were recklessly endangered. I commend this teacher I too believe she was a hero. So scary these days what is becoming of our children.

[@bellyfulochelly4222]

Great idea! Send a message to all the other school districts in the nation.

[@celestem4069]

Sadly the district only gives a shit if parents file suits.

[@alice_rabbit8345]

I would take my child out of that school. So scary.

[@bellyfulochelly4222]

@@alice_rabbit8345 Because of the current laws and the fact that violent and aggressive children are in fact considered "disabled" currently, most public schools are run the way this one was run. They do not want to get sued.

[@dillonc7955]

This is what happens when you spare grown adults the responsibility of being a parent as well as a gun owner. One of the first things the parent should've done after buying that handgun was getting a safe, lockbox, or some sort of locker to store the gun. As for being a parent, they should accept the fact their 6 year old child could easily become a career criminal if he doesn't get some sort of rehabilitation.

[@powlperc]

Outstanding episode, Doc, and 100% positivity on Abigail!

[@overzealouseuthanasiast9731]

Teachers get treated shit from every direction, it's a continual injustice. Not unlike healthcare, social and public workers. We have the means as a society to treat them all better, more than just solidarity, if we want to minimise this endless torrent of harm.

[@melissaholleron719]

In my experience, Children this young copy how the Adults around them act. He's six, there's no way that this Boy just pulled these behaviors out of thin air.

[@podaly]

I don't agree. Children can be born mentally deranged psychpaths. They aren't wired right.

[@melissaholleron719]

@horace sheffield 6 year olds don't know how to disengage a trigger lock and chamber a round on a 9mm gun without seeing it firsthand.

[@melissaholleron719]

@horace sheffield taking a belt and running after other Children to hit them is not biting or kicking them, it's a sign that he is being hit with a belt at home.

[@staciegordon5949]

As always, your analysis is clear and unbiased. Your videos help the public clearly understand current events with factual and credible information. As a retired first grade teacher I fully support Ms. Zwener's lawsuit for the lack of foresight from both administration and district. She will likely never teach again, and that is not only a loss for her but also for the young learners who will never experience her passion, bravery, and student first care.

[@angiepayne6104]

I agree with William Lehan's comment on here. I am an ex-paraeducator, and I saw first hand how troubled students are forced to stay in the general education classrooms and at times terrorize their peers. On a daily basis, the education of the other students is compromised because the teachers and staff are dealing with the troubled student. It should not be up to the parent if the child should go to a special education class or not. What about the rights of all the other students? What about the rights of the caring teachers who just want to care for, and teach their students, WITHOUT having to use all their time with violent children, when said child/children really shouldn't be in a general education classroom, or school in the first place. This issue is obviously a national issue that needs to be fixed. It isn't just one school here and there. Our country needs help on a national level to remedy procedures, etc. to make our schools safe.

[@janegardener1662]

The school definitely has a share of the blame in this case, although the primary blame seems to belong to the parents, who disregarded their promise to stay with him at school and left a gun lying unsecured around the house.

[@lilchi721]

The School District or the board were the ones that decided to end the parent supervision over Christmas break from what I heard

[@janegardener1662]

@@lilchi721 Where did you hear that? This child needs one-on-one adult supervision 24/7.

[@zovalentine7305]

Thank you Dr. Grande, I learned a lot about behavioral detail as well as this case in particular having never heard of it

[@TrixiLovesYou]

If this were in any other country, I'd say there is a chance for this kid to receive appropriate treatment and be rehabilitated. Since he's stuck in the US with a society that has no interest in mental health, we'll be hearing a lot more from John Doe in the coming years, including learning his real name.

[@theresehopkins1581]

What happened to her was inexcusable..... ignoring a danger does not make it go away!!!

[@maddieadams75]

Thank you for going into detail. Incredible a 6 yrs has zero concerns regarding any type of consequences for his actions. What is going on at home. This child needs intense therapy. And a whole lot of school administrators need to be replaced. ❤

[@billmartins5545]

Kid is damaged beyond repair. Should have been removed from the home and put in in-patient facility.

[@queenbeemo42]

I found Dr. Grande’s comment about children being naturally narcissistic and it being trained out of them to be very relevant. We have children coming into schools right now who have been home alone with their parents their entire lives. The ones with older siblings generally have the narcissism trained out of them. The only children have been soothed and coddled. They’ve never done anything boring. They’ve not cleaned up after themselves. Parents have been so overwhelmed trying to do childcare while working from home that they didn’t have the emotional capacity to train their kids, just soothe them. Many of the parents recognize this and with the kids now being in school have the energy to be consistent at home now. Most of those kids are coming along very well. I’m glad everyone is getting their pants sued off of them.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. Abigail is indeed a hero. It is a shame her bosses wouldn't listen to her or other co-workers. For a six year old to be so deeply disturbed is frightening. He never should have been in the school. As always I learn something new from your videos.

[@leannemo7382]

According to other parents, the teachers and administrators chose to look the other way to avoid being accused of racism.

[@eileen4175]

If the child has a disability you can’t request the parent stay with him all day. Clearly the school was an inappropriate placement for the child. Appropriate Special education services should have been provided. He was in the wrong type of school. Everyone failed.

[@manewland1]

You're working hard! Thanks for another video, Dr. Grande!

[@stevebutler812]

As a former school counselor I have seen, heard, been in meetings about, and helped investigate such situations. Personally took a loaded handgun off a 4th grader, at the end of the school day, based on a tip. Admin called the dad, and the issue was never documented. I gave a lot of candy to kids. But, that didn’t mean I was unaware of their issues. These types of “reject” or “abuse” Special Ed or 504 issues complicate the behavior plans, reporting, privacy, rights, etc. But, when Safety is an issue, and “Gun” is implied, much less stated, it’s an automatic “now” issue. It should’ve been documented. But, it very often isn’t. Or, it’s referred to as a “dangerous object” to minimize it. Until school officials are arrested, charged, convicted then the basic immunity they carry will continue to result in these issues being impersonal insurance claims.

[@xcrockery8080]

Wow, my partner works in a school and is in the 4th year of 1-on-1 supervision of a kid who sounds just like "John Doe". They're not allowed to restrain the child, so every time she starts smashing the place up, they have to evacuate the room and lock it. They've had 3 years of this and it's not getting better. School admin tries to downplay it.

[@carlyrennae3963]

Thanks for the update Dr Grande 😊

[@JasKhalid]

This is a serial killer in the making It’s not the first time he’s shown aggression Put him in a mental facility for life!

[@desres2281]

He's from a protected community. Probably no father in the home!

[@CowSaysMooMoo]

Please name a secure 'mental facility.' Thanks

[@lynnehuff9659]

@@CowSaysMooMoo Well, there are lock-downs. Jail is better, I don't know about prison. He's so young they're probably scrambling trying to figure out what to do with him.

[@LadyOfMaine]

My son was in special education from preschool to graduation and I never heard of anyone’s parents having to accompany a child to school. They hire an aide. Plus, did these parents undergo background checks before being allowed to work in the school? It seems like this was a lawsuit waiting to happen and the kid hit it out of the park

[@bettybanaszak5748]

My daughter is the principal of a K-12 public school in a rural Alaskan town of about 3500 people. She takes nothing for granted when a student shows signs of unruly behavior. First on the list is developing a loving but no nonsense authority with each student. Secondly, she has regular contact with the police in cases of drugs or illegal

[@bettybanaszak5748]

Substances. She attends regular conferences in Anchorage on dealing with bullying. Many precious students young and old come from broken homes or alcoholic parents. Some are being raised by grandparents or aunts and uncles. She and her staff have a heart for all kids, and letting undisciplined behavior go on unchecked is just plain neglect and hurts the entire community. Abigails school administration should be charged to the max, and the parents should not get away with any less consequences.

[@noplacelikehomecrochet5335]

I’m sure we will all learn his name someday, when they set him free to carry out the mass killings that I imagine he’s planning at this very moment

[@BrandyTexas214]

They were afraid of doing too much with this kid for obvious and unspeakable reasons and I’ll also say… imagine this kid in your kids 1st grade class

[@nightdipper5178]

The kid was just out looking for some Skittles and Gatorade.

[@sharondowling8896]

Thank you for clear reporting on this case. Hoping that next you can analyze this child's mother! From the list of potential causes of such ongoing violent behavior of a child, it seems clear that mom was a huge part of the problem. I believe she was quite young herself. The negligence and shortsightedness of the school administration is horrifying, even given the stressors that our public education system has endured the past few years. Why was the child allowed into the school without a parent as was required? Just one of the questions I would like answered- as well as why the mom decided SHE didn't have to follow the rules, either?! The mother, unfortunately for her, is finding out there are consequences for bad behavior. I hope the child can be rehabilitated, but all that anger seems to come from such a deep, dark place, that may not be the outcome of therapy for him. As always, I appreciate the insights and clarity Dr Grande offers in every case!❤

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

The mother is 25 years old, same age as the teacher. The mother lawyered up with a criminal attorney very quickly so perhaps she had prior with the law. Took them 3 months to charge the mother.

[@Kat-tr2ig]

That child needs to be put down and I'm not even sorry about it.

[@FurretWok]

You have to wonder how violent the child's most trusted people are like for him to be this extremely horrible at this young age. A 6 year old should not have the capacity to aim and fire a gun with intent to kill.

[@MeowwKing]

As a former teacher. These little monsters are not an isolated incident. They are in every school system, and the cowards in charge would rather endanger your children and the teachers then actually deal with the issue.

[@ma.alqahtani]

great update DR 👍🏻 the part where Abigail spoke about her trauma broke my heart 😢

[@Karlucci7]

Thank you for continuing to cover this case.

[@michellemargagliotti8035]

Kid should have been in a special school. Sounds like his parents didn't want to admit his problems were bad

[@annedenman6169]

I am with you, DR G. Abigail was heroic. She is a wonderful example for all of us, let alone teachers of the young kids. They/ the young students have any of the outcome of violence at a young age. Does anybody hear me? I am so very tired of some of our public servants ignoring their responsibility. HAVE YOU KNOW SENSE OF RIGHT?

[@christinejoy3030]

Thank you Dr. Grande for this update. What a brave lady. So glad that she has been honoured for her heroic actions.